That's a really nice intro to WDT, balanced and complete. One thing I'd add: for a home-made tool, look for acupuncture needles on one of the bigger Chinese websites. I got 20 needles for 5€, which is more than enough for 3 tools (I use 6 on one tool), and it gets cheaper if you buy more needles. :) As you said, the size matters, around 0.4mm in diameter. I cut mine to be a little bit shorter, for personal convenience, but also to get rid of the pointy ends. These thin needles are also flexible, and I think it helps. In addition to breaking clumps, I find that while using the WDT, you can get a feeling for areas in the puck that are denser than others, so you can further improve evenness. Clumping happens even with good home grinders, especially as you have to grind finer for certain beans. So I think a WDT is useful if you want to explore various beans at home. Less so if you stick to the same beans and always get fluffy grinds. Also, you mentioned the need for a funnel: I agree, and I'll add that one should look for a funnel that sits on the outer rim of the portafilter. Funnels that sit on the inside tend to leave a dent around the coffee puck, which goes against our goals. I got one for 6€ (again, Chinese online store), totally worth it. I would be surprised if WDT became a trend in cafés: in addition to the extra time spent, you lose some consistency, because it's very much a manual process. But at home, it's worth it for me.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
Yes, spot on, pretty much our findings
@lyleallan51242 жыл бұрын
Home user : Eureka Single Dose Grinder. WDT has definitely improved my espresso. I was first advised to grind, WDT, OCD, then tamp. I get better results if I leave out the OCD. Thanks for posting your technique!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure
@lyleallan51242 жыл бұрын
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters HI! I rewatched the video and a couple of things I wondered about. When pulling the shot, you mentioned 'dark areas and light areas'. What does this mean? This morning I watched and the right half was blond color, the left half was a deep brown???? And, when looking at your final shot, you mentioned the 'pale' portion of the shot. Is this an over extracted portion? Maybe a video on 'color' and what to look for? Thanks....lyle
@atticustay17 ай бұрын
Yeah OCD is unnecessary if you’re doing WDT
@markostojanovic1454 Жыл бұрын
How do the needles not scrap the bottom of the portafilter??
@OneIdeaTooMany Жыл бұрын
I never heard of WDT as a barista but when I got into coffee at home I did. I wouldn't use it in the cafe but perhaps when pulling a single origin I might but when they're mixed in with a bunch of other orders.... Yeah no.. Edit: just found out Barista Hussle are planning to bring out the autocomb which could be interesting. It would be good to get some feedback from artisti when it finally drops.
@Supercazzola2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Do you need a new gasket? I saw some water dripping / escaping from your machine around the portafilter. Did you notice it ?
@solomonliu7354 Жыл бұрын
any thoughts on wdt tools that are straight vs the ones pointing out?
@khairinarif3692 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the comparison video 😄. I'll be waiting for it.
@etienne_latte_art_journey2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid! I have been looking forward to you making one about WDT for a while! It made my extractions so much better. I was wondering if you were also going to go over that new trend of using paper filter underneath the puck that Lance Hedrick, James Hoffman and Jonathan Gagné recently talked a lot about. I have been using them for over 3 months now and it really changed my espresso game! Cheers guys
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure, we have played with this for some time as well. With various results. We will properly look at the metal screens on top of the puck next
@dieterbo Жыл бұрын
Great video. Would you recoment a wdt in a commercial Environment? Do you use it in your Cafe? Or does it take too much time?
@Bowser5589 ай бұрын
Is the machine gasket faulty? There is some water leaking out from the portafilter. Incorrect dose?
@Efimer4 ай бұрын
from the video it seems he didn't completely locked it
@labarbovent Жыл бұрын
Here I am, feeling fancy as hell, watching a WDT video.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Жыл бұрын
😂
@rmca11 Жыл бұрын
Boss: Why are you taking 30 mins on your tea break Me: Sorry had to WDT
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Жыл бұрын
😂
@alexlazaridisf.72762 жыл бұрын
For a cafe you might try a Duomo the Eight. It’s what I use. I also saw a barista competitor use one a couple of weeks ago. But it’s expensive.
@juliancolman2 жыл бұрын
I use a Niche Zero grinder, and grind directly into the basket (and funnel/collar) which I rotate under the NZ funnel, for evenness. Accordingly, I don’t see much much, if any, clumping. Still, I have always WDT’d and am loth to give it up. So I deep and mid WDT with very small circular motions, which I more broadly spiral from outside to in. I then surface rake, with a 3D printed tool that I bought on Etsy, into which I have inserted 9 acupuncture needles of 0.35 mm each (80 mm long, including the 30mm handle portion). Still, I am always concerned about moving coffee grounds around, as I understand that less is more. This 9 needle configuration seems to move the grounds around somewhat (not hugely but it does move the grounds around abit). Should I reduce the number of needles (say to 6) or reduce the size to say 0.30mm or do both? As I do not see any pre-WDT clumps, I am wondering whether I am introducing more channeling risks than there were in the first place. Post WDT, I do see some evidence of channeling (1mm wide but not deep holes) and say 75% coverage of the basket bottom during the initial beading, on say half of the shots that I pour. Any suggestions here, as I am looking for consistency.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
The raking seems to be a bit over kill after WDT, I assume you have pressure consistent? The raking could move grinds and make channels as is they are the same location in a basket essentially you making a groove.
@Will146702 жыл бұрын
I have that same WDT that I brought from eBay. I think it works better if you only use half the needles, like in every second slot. Have you guys tried that?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
No not yet, it will really break up the clumps, a few less maybe for the middle and top would make it a little easier
@Swimmingforlife.2 жыл бұрын
Great video again, you certainly wouldn’t have the time to use that in a cafe, can I ask you how water was also dripping from the group head while you were pulling the shot. Once again great video and full of info. Kind regards to you all from Scotland. Johnny
@jaegerarthur67182 жыл бұрын
you definitely can use it in a coffee shop, organisation and workflow is the key
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
Yes it was leaking from the head, the seals were bedded in to a different handle, we did not pick this up till after in editing, so we left it in. The machine was moving on the bench as I tightened, NOTE don’t wipe the bench with a wet cloth before you start a video. 😜
@stephenqueen69462 жыл бұрын
I saw sprometheus do a controlled tds trial with what I can only guess is some sort of kruve-esque sifter. I'm always worried about workflow but have seen needles on the end of an ocd handle sold on aliexpress. The question is whether such a tool is as good as the 'ol needle stir. The other thing is that spro' didn't do tapping puck prep on all, whereas I go tap>ocd>tamp so whether tap>needles>tamp is better remains to be seen. At the least, it makes sense in that if your grinder gives out the big clumps, an ocd doesn't fix those clumps, whereas mr. slightly smaller herb grinder might actually do the job. I'd just like one inbuilt into a dosing funnel for the ultimate workflow efficiency
@stephenqueen69462 жыл бұрын
if you want to do more research in the chem lab we call it eddy diffusion
@stephenqueen69462 жыл бұрын
i'm also really impressed that you did this in one take
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I look forward to geeking out on the TDS and the best results, I know the best results won’t be good work flow for a cafe, but excited to see the best for flavour. Cheers luke
@jmsaffroy2 жыл бұрын
If you look at James Hoffmann's technique video, you can see that he does WDT > tap > tamp, although he forgot to mention it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpOWeqt3p5mFedE It's what I do too, mostly to check that I still have a somewhat flat surface to tamp on.
@bernadettantal95002 жыл бұрын
Hi folks! What's the difference between OCD / NCD and can I use it together NCD+WDT? :)
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
No difference, the company just changed their name from Ona to Nucleus. Yep, that combo is great 👍🏻
@synovium6 ай бұрын
For those who can’t afford a declumper tool, Another alternative can be a cork from the wine bottle with four or five toothpicks bedded into the cork to give us ability, and Wala, you have your tool homemade at cost you nothing.
@thiccchungus5883 ай бұрын
Toothpicks are way too thick
@PM-oq8dg2 ай бұрын
If you can't afford it, how can you afford the espresso machine?
@alexiszurex Жыл бұрын
erm.... im just gonna buy some acupuncture needle and made my self a cheap nice distributor needle....... why buy $33 branded shit when we can make it with only $3..... right ?
@Markle_B11 ай бұрын
I just ordered from Amazon for £4.88 😂
@egcruzer6 ай бұрын
I agree, even the name brand versions use acupuncture needles. I bought a cheap one on amazon and it works great.
@ITBETHESUNАй бұрын
Uhhh aliepxress sells these for $0.97
@Presso992 жыл бұрын
10:43'The group head is leaking.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the machine moved on a wet bench, realised in post editing
@tvbronic58632 жыл бұрын
Hello there I'm a barista too just started an KZbin channel of my own ... Any help for it to grow ?advise ?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
Keep making content and sharing all you know
@tvbronic58632 жыл бұрын
Got it ☺️ thank you very much
@vancitycanucks2 жыл бұрын
Try normcore needle distributor. OCD and WDT in one
@storiestobesung Жыл бұрын
what ''weiss'' word means? its a name? Thank you
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Жыл бұрын
It’s a persons name
@storiestobesung Жыл бұрын
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Ok, but who is he?
@MCDreng Жыл бұрын
@@storiestobesung he's no one "important" like a celebrity in the industry, but he's the guy who came up with the idea to use needles to distribute the grounds back in 2005
@yskwong2 жыл бұрын
You need to replace that gasket :)
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
Wet bench = slippery machine = leak. 😂
@yskwong2 жыл бұрын
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters lol ... cheers mate
@basicPROcreator Жыл бұрын
Channeling is my big problem. I can't make it perfect. 😪
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Жыл бұрын
You can do it! Just look at these tools and put them into play. Cheers Luke
@tedgoldman91212 жыл бұрын
Some feedback: The way you were swinging around the WDT and leaving the points up on the bench is a recipe for getting stabbed- please remind people to be careful. I’ve switched to the Idroprep tamper and that is proving to be a great technology. There is no more WDT and distribution. Give it a try!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we will check it out
@Hood.Housekeeping Жыл бұрын
We need to let Darwin be in full affect. If you get stabbed and you don’t have enough self awareness to no get stabbed the first time and subsequently second time you shouldn’t be operating an espresso machine and definitely not consuming caffeine. Let people learn lessons without wasting everyone else’s time.
@OneIdeaTooMany Жыл бұрын
If people need to be told that, I worry about them using anything sharp. A wdt that uses acupuncture needles is going to be 0.3mm in diameter. If you make a wdt using the cork, putting it down needle side up is the most convenient way to store it. Don't store it on its side or you risk bending the needles and not wdt'ing the entire bed of coffee.
@moonlighthomestead4259 Жыл бұрын
@tedgoldman9121, how are things going with the Idroprep? After 5 months do you still like it?