Make Space In The Beat For Mixing Vocals With Trackspacer

Waves Factory Trackspacer is a great plugin for mixing vocals.
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[@John21690]

I use this to sidechain my reverb. Works a treat.

[@deeno.s]

There's a patcher preset called Multiband Sidechain, does the same thing

[@thew26x]

could you link any video you recommend for this? I have tried to do the sidechain method before but have always got hung up on the "turn wet effects off" b/c i use a lot of different vocal plugins like formant shifts and stuff and it hurts my brain heavily to figure out it all out. Is there a way for the sidechain method to just use the vocal information from the lead vox but still keep all the effects on the lead vox as is? Thank you and have a great day

[@DiligentVisionary]

It only works if you’re using eq with parametric eq2 not fabfilter or anything like that I think.

[@KhronoProd]

​@@DiligentVisionaryyou could make it work if you know how to use patcher

[@beatsbydamnboy3661]

@@thew26x kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2Soh6meoch2macsi=LAqueFdz06zIld7s

[@olayinkamobolaji900]

Check out mix elite. He explained it there. Bro is crazy

[@lafete6863]

The mix on voice over is really clean man Can we get a tutorial on that ?

[@ianmercurio1255]

Compress and EQ De Ess

[@geo-soulmusic461]

This plugin is a lifesaver

[@xd-zs7eh]

Soothe2 is also great for this 👍

[@xd-zs7eh]

Also in soothe you can choose to only sidechain the mids or sides or both or blend to taste

[@user-rp9dq8se8t]

How!?

[@Sleepxver]

U can do the same by clicking the little blue button on the right with this plugin. Both really good plugins though

[@TzoHill]

@@Sleepxver which one you think sounds more processional?

[@Sleepxver]

@@TzoHill honestly cant tell the difference too much but i use trackspacer myself. Only thing is trackspacer can cause high cpu usage so make sure to add it in the end

[@TzoHill]

@@Sleepxver fair enough . I would of thought Soothe used more CPU . 🤷🏽‍♂️ ohwell both amazing plugins lucky to have In the box

[@hadookin47]

I'd never sidechain if it wasn't for this plugin

[@iainmackenzieUK]

I do this using ProMB. Not a quick fix but it works well

[@Tha_Mekka]

Oh and be sure to mute any time based effects like verbs and delay throws from printed copy of vocal that’s being sidechained to instrumental

[@nafs8466]

Why do you want to print the vocal? Couldn’t I just sidechain the vocal bus to the instrumental bus?

[@user-rp9dq8se8t]

Printed??

[@Tha_Mekka]

@nafs8466 u could but if u have timebased effects like reverb or delay then dialing in the right blend could get difficult.

[@Tha_Mekka]

@@user-rp9dq8se8t yes print a copy of the vocal without the timebased effects and unlink it from the master fader. Use that print to sidechain to the instrumental in order to carve out space for the main vocal clip. U can get similar results and this is one of many alternatives for those who don’t have Trackspacer.

[@user-rp9dq8se8t]

@@Tha_Mekka so what's the way around it? Mute and then unmute while you've found it?

[@Garbageb01]

Show how u sidechain it in the mixer pls

[@mixwithjerry]

I will do a video on this

[@Garbageb01]

@@mixwithjerry would be amazing

[@17vgmello]

@@mixwithjerrydid you ever make the video ?

[@edge_edits8]

I use pro q3

[@lionnonny]

Does that do the same? How so?

[@Lurkspur]

it does not do the same thing. dont listen to kids unless they sound half intelligent @@lionnonny

[@1AugustBlack]

@@Lurkspuryes it does . Put it in mid side mode and use it the same way as trackspacer by carving into the clashing frequencies. Pro q is cleaner keep it in linear phase when u do it too

[@iainmackenzieUK]

isn't it better to learn how to scan for conflicting frequencies by ear???

[@DrBuffaloBalls]

That is an important skill indeed. Trackspacer is more of a timesaver thing when you don't want your creative flow to get slowed down by having to tweak your settings for too long.

[@professorpancakes6545]

You could also use it creatively if say, you wanted full frequency drums and full frequency bass, both really busy, trackspacer could allow this to work in a way that wouldn’t really be possible without doing mad automation on an eq or using a dynamic eq but this is probably easier

[@bunnybolte]

A tip for u it didnt cut frequency dynamically it just low downs the volume

[@cl9615]

Would you put this on a chordal instruments bus or also a percussive instrument bus

[@MichaelMosca-z1v]

Nice better than fab filter?

[@thewedge8823]

so its just a frequency-based sidechain?

[@djkingshii]

Please drop link to download this particular plug-in.. anybody please 🙏🏾

[@j.r.a.inthacut8148]

What's the difference between this and side chaining dynamic eq?

[@PainfuelProductions]

it appears to already find the right frequencies for you, taking out the task of sweeping

[@j.r.a.inthacut8148]

@PainfuelProductions right on, seems useful. I have Neutron from Izotope and it does the same thing by scanning the side chained track for conflicting frequencies

[@PainfuelProductions]

@@j.r.a.inthacut8148 awesome! Happy mixing bro!

[@j.r.a.inthacut8148]

@PainfuelProductions same to you bro!

[@lifeinthespiritt.v1402]

Hey man quick question do i put this on my master or on my vocals chain or set it separately by itself then link it to my vocal chains?? Im little confuse

[@mixwithjerry]

If you’re recording to a 2-track instrumental that’s already been mixed and it’s just a Wav file or mp3 then I’d put this plugin on the instrumentals mixer track. Then sidechain the vocals signal to the instrumental track. This way the plugin is using the vocal signal as a sidechain input to tell it what frequencies to duck on the instrumental if that makes sense.

[@mixwithjerry]

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[@lifeinthespiritt.v1402]

@@mixwithjerry oh you side chain within the plugins itself ???

[@doskii777]

@@lifeinthespiritt.v1402yup, so it ducks out the frequencies in the instrument conflicting with the vocal. Creates a bit more room for the vocal to live

[@nesrinejabelli1509]

Wht best amout for trackspacer

[@sourextreme8532]

Do it to your liking theres no formula

[@rmballamin3798]

What the name of this plugging ?

[@mixwithjerry]

Trackspacer by Waves Factory

[@Tha_Mekka]

Or, hear me out, copy or create an audio clip for all vocals, assign it it’s own channel, unroute it from master, sidechain using fruity limiter, use the rule of 3 and ensure your not ducking more than 3db, and play track with original copies of vocals 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@dariusrobinson7026]

That's just too much lol. Plugins like these speed up workflow. Been using trackspacer for a while now

[@Tha_Mekka]

@@dariusrobinson7026 I also have Trackspacer. This is merely an alternative for those who don’t have Trackspacer. Are there other alternatives, yes of course. This is just one of many.

[@kroducerssssss]

Patcher.....!!

[@danielparkermusic]

Walmart soothe2?

[@RichMindset-RM]

Not to overdo it.. you could suggest a safe range

[@mixwithjerry]

I stay between 5-10%

[@SchraderBeatz]

Learn about sidchain processing and ya dont need this

[@mixwithjerry]

This utilizes sidechain processing…

[@SchraderBeatz]

@@mixwithjerry i know 4 example in Cubase 12 Pro the frequency can do it ITS a little Bit Tricky But when you know IT ITS powerfull

[@Mopsie]

Still a time saver though. This is a nice plug-in

[@Sxcbum1]

Hi Jerry, i am following your instructions and i am using Trackspacer. I have my beat with the trackspacer on it and my vocals sidechained to the beat. What i want is to only export the beat with the final ducking effect but without the vocals, as i am bouncing the beat to a different daw. But no matter what i do every time i export all tracks it seems like no effect has happened and the beat is still the same as before. I am exporting with the effects on and all tracks seperately. Please help 🙏