World Famous Olympian turned murderer? Did He Do it or Honest Mistake? | Mystery & Makeup

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Bailey Sarian

Bailey Sarian

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@laurentoren
@laurentoren 3 ай бұрын
“he did not foresee the possibility of someone dying as a result of his actions” SIR U WERE SHOOTING A GUN
@Crocady1
@Crocady1 3 ай бұрын
If you think this logic is bad, you should see the lame excuses our government ministers make up when they get caught committing fraud 😂😂😂
@hardkorr9503
@hardkorr9503 3 ай бұрын
N its not like he shot it once. Wasnt it 3-4 times?? 🙄
@emmajenkins6056
@emmajenkins6056 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely this.
@oki__
@oki__ Ай бұрын
You know people don’t magically die just from being shot with a gun right? Look at Trump
@TracyW-me8br
@TracyW-me8br 3 ай бұрын
Asking “Who’s in there?!” Would have avoided this whole situation. He wanted her dead.
@dominicbotes4309
@dominicbotes4309 3 ай бұрын
He had so many interviews. And apparently he did yell and said "get out of my house" and blah blah blah.
@MariaMacedow
@MariaMacedow 3 ай бұрын
to be fair, if it was an intruder, do you think they would answer that question?
@jasmineramseyer
@jasmineramseyer 3 ай бұрын
@@MariaMacedow well yeah a intruder likely wouldn't but she certainly would say so
@aurianabaun5582
@aurianabaun5582 3 ай бұрын
Be out in a minuuuuuute 😂 ​@@MariaMacedow
@ArianaLee7890
@ArianaLee7890 3 ай бұрын
You are dim aren't you? The point to ask is bc the GF would have replied. If there's no reply, then it's not the GF. Not rocket science​@@MariaMacedow
@Missunderstood103
@Missunderstood103 3 ай бұрын
First thing u instantly do when sleeping next to someone & suddenly hear something is, you touch them/check them. Make contact, it's a grounding instinctual thing in all of us.
@CaseyAvalon
@CaseyAvalon 3 ай бұрын
As a gun owner, you don't shoot what you can't see. You verify. It's suspish.
@alexpriedite1447
@alexpriedite1447 3 ай бұрын
YES! One of the FIRST rules I was taught- ALWAYS know your target & what you’re shooting at- always, no exceptions (I mean, life or death crazy robbery scenarios are playing in my mind now lol,) but you get my point. It’s pounded into our heads. Sus AF
@CaseyAvalon
@CaseyAvalon 3 ай бұрын
@@alexpriedite1447 yes exactly! You never point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot. ❤️
@My-Journey-
@My-Journey- 3 ай бұрын
AGREED 💯
@francinejones2524
@francinejones2524 3 ай бұрын
Identify your target.
@bobbiquigley7351
@bobbiquigley7351 3 ай бұрын
Agree! Don't blindly shoot into a door!
@jackiemckenzie8492
@jackiemckenzie8492 3 ай бұрын
Alright but why are we not talking about the fact that if it was an intruder, why tf would they close themselves in a bathroom???? That makes no sense, intruders/burglars don't do that. They'd be trying to go in and out, not trying to lock themselves in or trap themselves. He's guilty af
@antoinette8713
@antoinette8713 3 ай бұрын
he was saying he thought he heard the intruders coming in the bathroom window so rather then letting them get out of there he just started shooting them before they supposedly came out of the bathroom
@roelienbotha4575
@roelienbotha4575 3 ай бұрын
The bathroom was in his room close to his bed.
@antoinette8713
@antoinette8713 3 ай бұрын
@@roelienbotha4575 your point???
@jodienovello5881
@jodienovello5881 3 ай бұрын
nope the toilet, it was just the toilet window was an easy place for someone to get into. and as I've said above, whites were terrified at the time because a lot of freed blacks, aka after apartheid was abolished were on the hunt for revenge, all white homes had guns because of this. home raids and breaki ins were then common.
@mrsm8801
@mrsm8801 3 ай бұрын
THIS!.. it was the first thing i said.. watched this whole trial and from the start was like who breaks into your house to lock themselves in your bathroom.. it was a bathroom on the 2nd floor and had a small slim window.. it was also in a gated secure community.. there are photos of the house and layout and during the case they showed diagrams of what he did, where he shot etc.. neighbour heard him arguing with reeva, which he had to be shouting loud when you see the house to be heard by a neighbour and had previous arrests for shooting guns in public..
@SarahExplainsItAll
@SarahExplainsItAll 3 ай бұрын
As an amputee I appreciate how you are speaking about his disability with respect and not mocking it. You might be surprised how rare that is.
@tonkysue207
@tonkysue207 3 ай бұрын
People are so thick these days.💙uk
@Mr562Guero
@Mr562Guero 2 ай бұрын
Thick?
@umokay5516
@umokay5516 3 ай бұрын
If a judge has to get overruled by the Supreme Court TWICE for her bad judgement, maybe she shouldn’t be a judge....?
@kelleyvanheerden931
@kelleyvanheerden931 3 ай бұрын
This is South Africa, half our country's leaders shouldn't be where they are!!!
@elzannenel4400
@elzannenel4400 3 ай бұрын
@umokay5516 You are so right 🫠
@brandiew2921
@brandiew2921 3 ай бұрын
@@kelleyvanheerden931sadly it’s the same in USA!!!
@loribryant884
@loribryant884 3 ай бұрын
​@@brandiew2921Including Supreme Court 😢
@goolibay
@goolibay 3 ай бұрын
@@brandiew2921no man… dont even compare…
@Rennie10
@Rennie10 3 ай бұрын
16:48 the fact that you took time to acknowledge this beautiful woman's intelligence and positive attributes - she's not just "victim". Thank you 🙏
@j3nnahr0s3
@j3nnahr0s3 2 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing ❤❤
@mskelseypeters
@mskelseypeters 3 ай бұрын
That brown compliments your eye color SO WELL. They’re shining!
@EarsToTheSpeaker
@EarsToTheSpeaker 3 ай бұрын
I think we need you to bring back “Get better idols” and we need more merch with it.
@katalajordan5881
@katalajordan5881 2 ай бұрын
Yessss! 👏🏻
@natashak3380
@natashak3380 3 ай бұрын
My theory on his legs not being on during the shooting was because they were fighting in bed and he had taken them off and she got up to go call someone to come get her and locked herself in the bathroom and he got super angry and flew out of bed and didn’t put them on because he was so mad and acting quickly
@carlatassi
@carlatassi 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. He didn't put them on because he snapped
@tashinawest1176
@tashinawest1176 3 ай бұрын
This makes sense
@NatasjaSmit-o2o
@NatasjaSmit-o2o 3 ай бұрын
Right?! Angry argument, he snaps and pulls out a gun, she runs to the bathroom with her phone! Shouts at him and stands close to the door as he shoots. it must have been quick
@brij.9661
@brij.9661 3 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. How did he shoot her in the head and the hand and the gut if she wasn't like leaning against the door trying to keep him from coming in.
@emilynance7338
@emilynance7338 3 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. When you're that mad you just act, you don't take time to put on your shoes to go running after someone, so he def didn't take time to put on his legs
@anjuliboshoff
@anjuliboshoff 3 ай бұрын
As a South African from Cape Town, you totally nailed the names and pronunciation of everything in this video. I love you Bailey!
@leonehessel3744
@leonehessel3744 3 ай бұрын
Yes you nailed the pronunciations which can be hard for english speaking people
@andreagarrad9864
@andreagarrad9864 2 ай бұрын
except for Waterkloof..no biggie it is pronounced in another language. 😅
@CranialRemolder845
@CranialRemolder845 3 ай бұрын
Prosthetist here- fun fact about the "unfair advantage": because Oscar is a double amputee his prosthetic legs can be adjusted to change his height. It was found that when he ran a race with longer prosthetic legs, he ran faster. That was the true heart of his "unfair advantage" and it kind of blew up and morphed into something else entirely
@fammnak852
@fammnak852 3 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for this insight!
@jessicabohn9429
@jessicabohn9429 3 ай бұрын
What if that height was actually more proportionate and correct for his body, thus giving him more proper balance while running? That "advantage" wouldn't be linear and would start declining passed a certain height.
@JenSumma
@JenSumma 2 ай бұрын
It also seems unfair because his lack of calve muscles, and anatomy distal to this knees, enables his body to be more aerodynamic and have less frictional forces
@Westminster6cats-wr4ik
@Westminster6cats-wr4ik Ай бұрын
​@@JenSummaGood point
@bryony1235
@bryony1235 3 ай бұрын
That judge needs to be removed from her post. Shocking levels of favouritism.
@michaelailgnerova7786
@michaelailgnerova7786 3 ай бұрын
Or maybe someone paid her nice amout of money to decide like that....
@zachciankowa
@zachciankowa Ай бұрын
I'm lost as to why nobody in the video or comments mentions one obvious person who could have a very strong position to turn the verdict. If I get banned we'll probably know 😂
@abigailking6933
@abigailking6933 19 күн бұрын
Listen corruption is rife here in South Africa, it's awful but also awfully common. Traffic cops pull people over in some areas just to get bribes. Money talks the loudest here.🥲
@LeabiloeChobokoane
@LeabiloeChobokoane 3 ай бұрын
I’m South African but they way I love this channel and the way Bailey tells these stories is so captivating I’m literally gonna watch the entire episode even though I know exactly how everything went down
@LerissaKemp
@LerissaKemp 3 ай бұрын
Just did exactly the same! lol
@Eliana_2911
@Eliana_2911 3 ай бұрын
Me too 😂
@mandygo449
@mandygo449 3 ай бұрын
Ditto
@Bubblyrisss
@Bubblyrisss 2 ай бұрын
Righhhhhht!?
@candacepaul110
@candacepaul110 Ай бұрын
Same!!!!
@Savannahmai
@Savannahmai 3 ай бұрын
Neighbors say they heard a woman screaming before the gunshots were fired. Oscar claims that was him screaming at the supposed intruder to reveal themselves. That already is in contradiction to him saying he didn’t know who was behind the door. If truly those were his screams, wouldn’t she have responded?
@hannaliepretorius7767
@hannaliepretorius7767 3 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@elizabethv9192
@elizabethv9192 3 ай бұрын
great point!
@minpin9230
@minpin9230 Ай бұрын
It was him screaming after he shot and realized what happened.
@williamgraham5630
@williamgraham5630 3 ай бұрын
I lived in South Africa at the time this case blew up. There were a lot of stories about him pulling his gun on people and once even at a restaurant. The guy had a problem with his anger.
@lulekomaphumulo808
@lulekomaphumulo808 3 ай бұрын
Yes apparently he is a very violent guy
@bloodymerrie9455
@bloodymerrie9455 Ай бұрын
Yes this is true, it's well known
@abigailking6933
@abigailking6933 19 күн бұрын
Yoh! I remember hearing about this in high school, my math teacher ran into the science class just to skinner with us about it but I didn't hear this! Still knew he was guilty from the get-go
@ashlheureux3304
@ashlheureux3304 3 ай бұрын
Steroid anger (or roid-rage) is a VERYYY real thing and I think they should have looked into that. More common in crime cases than we think!
@melissacside
@melissacside 3 ай бұрын
I'm only a few minutes in but I couldn't agree more with the Wade Wilson comment regarding the desperate women "how embarrassing for you" lol 😂 Bailey you are too funny girl 😅
@cherylmazil1897
@cherylmazil1897 3 ай бұрын
I can't get past the fact that he wouldn't have noticed his gf missing from the bed... also why would the intruder hide in the bathroom?
@emz_xo
@emz_xo 3 ай бұрын
Exactly!!!! If you were woken from your sleep due to hearing an intruder, Human nature would make you wake up panicked & wake up the person nxt to you to alert them! Secondly, what would an intruder be doing in the bathroom other than leaving more dna evidence or robbing toothpaste? Literally makes no sense. No one would just shoot through a door when you know there's another person in the house
@MultiCowgirl22
@MultiCowgirl22 3 ай бұрын
Yeah!
@amychristofield320
@amychristofield320 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, an intruder probably wouldn’t turn on the light either.
@kaylablack6218
@kaylablack6218 3 ай бұрын
Yeah you would think the thought process would be "someones in the bathroom, where's my gf? In bed, that means it's not her" THEN act. But even then just blindly shooting Through the door is a bit extreme
@haileyranson8255
@haileyranson8255 3 ай бұрын
This happened to my parents when my mother was heavily pregnant with me. She went to the toilet in the dark and my dad heard someone moving around and in his still half asleep state, he swung his bat at my mother when she came back into the room (in the dark, obviously). Thankfully she screamed and dove on the bed , so he missed her. But he still swears to this day he saw her in bed beside him. My mother laughs about it now (I'm almost 32), but my dad still finds it very upsetting to talk about. I'm not saying its normal 😂 but I do think it's more plausible than it initially seems. I don't necessarily think it applies for this case as he clearly wasn't half asleep when he fired his gun four times into the locked bathroom door. But I always think of my dad when I hear about this case!
@ami4764
@ami4764 2 ай бұрын
I am proudly South African! This story was followed religiously here in South Africa and it was so sad that Ms Steenkamp lost her live. The story does not make sense. Even the trial they had taken the toilet door to court as evidence. So many questions does not have answers. Like he heard a sound coming from the toilet he didn't think to check that Reeva was not in the bed??? How do you not know your partner is not sleeping next to you??? May Reeva RIP.
@Taylerrrrrrr
@Taylerrrrrrr 3 ай бұрын
1) you’re perfect and we love you and have been watching MMM and dark history for years. Never change 2) Petition for an update episode: all criminals discussed that are still alive and their current status (released, executed, released and killed again, or didn’t, still waiting trial, etc.) 3) the makeup look is mf perfect as always. We love you and would love a restock of the MMM clothing line 😘 keep doing you! We Love you always, never stop!!
@yee8129
@yee8129 3 ай бұрын
That’s too much work 😭😭
@TaniaSteele-tn4ig
@TaniaSteele-tn4ig 3 ай бұрын
Í
@christinac2652
@christinac2652 3 ай бұрын
How entitled 😂 look it up yourself
@morticiaaddamz1
@morticiaaddamz1 3 ай бұрын
@@TaniaSteele-tn4igshe’s not that kind of true crime content creator
@badgyalvee8072
@badgyalvee8072 3 ай бұрын
That’s so much work wth
@angievanzuydam8543
@angievanzuydam8543 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this one. He belongs behind bars. When my husband and I were on a holiday once, the house alarm started screaming during the one night. By the time my eyes were open, my husband was already kneeling on the floor next to the bed with his firearm aimed at the door, telling me softly to not move. There was no one there, fortunately, monkeys must have set them off again (it’s common at the coastal areas in South Africa) but he not only knew exactly where I was but I was in no way in any danger if he did need to shoot.
@lizzydreamer6940
@lizzydreamer6940 3 ай бұрын
BAILEEYYY!! I can't believe you're covering this 😱😱 this story was HUGE in South Africa. I remember it was all anyone could talk about for months. Also: about the therapy and anger management classes he has to take as part of his parole - I think it was mostly done because he was famous. As far as I know ordinary people who end up in jail don't have things like that. I might be wrong though 🤷‍♀️
@jamie-leighhaynes659
@jamie-leighhaynes659 2 ай бұрын
100%. Us ordinary citizens wouldn't get therapy and anger management classes as part of parole. We'd actually get 25 to life 🫠
@PLATO97
@PLATO97 3 ай бұрын
I’m from South Africa and I think he should have gotten life in prison. Majority of South Africans agree 25 to life should have been the verdict. It is times like this when I wish we had a jury decide on the verdict instead of one judge.
@peakay6729
@peakay6729 3 ай бұрын
100% 🇿🇦 should never been allowed to see the light of day again
@sizellesnydert2559
@sizellesnydert2559 3 ай бұрын
Correct. He lives in midstream now.
@marissahattingh957
@marissahattingh957 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Rennie10
@Rennie10 3 ай бұрын
Especially considering our gender based violence has always been out of hand - set a precedent that actually means life for a life (even if it means behind bars without parole in Waterkloof Mansions)
@refilwefifinkosi1
@refilwefifinkosi1 3 ай бұрын
​@sizellesnydert2559 wow! Talk about nice life problems. He's living the soft life.
@anriettebunt4817
@anriettebunt4817 3 ай бұрын
I am from South Africa and my company works with Oscars Dad, and all the anger comes from his Dad, he can get very nasty fast.I do think he planned it.
@melissamoonchild9216
@melissamoonchild9216 3 ай бұрын
wow thank you for the insider intell, I was wondering if they had a violent relationship
@ameliatrotier8807
@ameliatrotier8807 3 ай бұрын
I feel anger is hereditary. My grandfather was a very angry man and my grandma is very kind and sweet. All of his children have anger issues. I got it passed down from my mom, luckily I stopped it. Apparently my grandfather's father was much worse than him.
@Eliana_2911
@Eliana_2911 3 ай бұрын
It's pretty obvious that he grew up around toxicity & enablers, & that BS happened to him. It's the only explanation for anyone who commits evil & thinks they can get away with it.
@zimazima630
@zimazima630 3 ай бұрын
​@@ameliatrotier8807 yeah that makes a lot of sense me and my older sister who got brought up with my dad who was an alcoholic and severely abusive to my mom. We both have anger issues my older sister more so but she saw a lot more than me and had to care for me at the same time. My younger sister who has a different dad is very quiet and meek
@campfantastic7850
@campfantastic7850 3 ай бұрын
I guess we will never know. Even if he maybe didn’t plan it and did it in anger still- he shot her knowingly. I think they were arguing and fighting and he pulled out the gun which then she ran to the bathroom and locked herself in but then he still shot her. I think, I don’t know.
@tinabina121959
@tinabina121959 3 ай бұрын
I can't imagine an intruder running to the bathroom and locking the door!
@charlottelofranco541
@charlottelofranco541 3 ай бұрын
Lol, the algorithm is working hard today. Just after Bailey smudges her eye liner around 6:25, and ad for Garnier wipes pops up. 😂 that's some stellar ad timing.
@avy466
@avy466 3 ай бұрын
it might be intentional, if I remember correctly, youtubers can pick the exact time to add an advertisement and maybe even pick the brand
@artcreative.studio
@artcreative.studio 3 ай бұрын
​@@avy466I love it
@Phoebenbella
@Phoebenbella 3 ай бұрын
@@avy466no ad played at that time of the video for me.
@daniellecleary4373
@daniellecleary4373 3 ай бұрын
Nice catch!
@juliarose1119
@juliarose1119 3 ай бұрын
She advertises what she's using at that time.
@onkelithangaleka3423
@onkelithangaleka3423 3 ай бұрын
Lol, who else smiled when Bailey said 911 was called 🤣🤣❤️ it’s 10111 for us .
@angievanzuydam8543
@angievanzuydam8543 3 ай бұрын
Maybe she knows they don’t answer the phone here. 🫣
@Sweet_love93
@Sweet_love93 3 ай бұрын
To her it is 911 she knows it’s not the same for everyone, but she is American.
@onkelithangaleka3423
@onkelithangaleka3423 3 ай бұрын
@@Sweet_love93 nowhere did I say she doesn’t know. And also me putting the 10111 number was for educational purposes, not meant to undermine or anything. Don’t annoy me
@onkelithangaleka3423
@onkelithangaleka3423 3 ай бұрын
@@angievanzuydam8543 haha 😂😂😂 she knows
@celestejunies1641
@celestejunies1641 3 ай бұрын
😂
@pirleennaidoo8591
@pirleennaidoo8591 3 ай бұрын
As a South African, as soon as you started describing today's case, I thought "Hmmm, sounds like Oscar" and then you finished what you were saying and his name came out of your mouth, and I cannot adequately describe the excitement I felt! 😂❤
@Londie9173
@Londie9173 3 ай бұрын
Guilty as charged but the sentence was a joke
@pengwing638
@pengwing638 3 ай бұрын
i know right he known to have been abusive towards previous partners they lucky to get away unlike reeva who tryed to but paid the ultimate price with her life can't believe he is free
@jadeybaby007
@jadeybaby007 3 ай бұрын
Look at the girlfriend’s behaviour… She was locked in the bathroom with her phone in the middle of the night! She 👏was👏afraid👏
@arentisocool
@arentisocool 2 ай бұрын
Or who goes to a bathroom way out of they way from the bedroom, with there phone, and locks the door at 3am?
@angeliita9499
@angeliita9499 2 ай бұрын
someone who runs from their abuser?? what are u tryna get at here
@jadeybaby007
@jadeybaby007 2 ай бұрын
@@angeliita9499 Meaning that her actions alone are proof enough that he was a dangerous, abusive man. The only reason a woman would lock herself her phone in the closest bathroom with her phone instead of leaving the house is if she were in immediate danger from someone else in that room and (beyond reasonable doubt) within that household.
@TaliGrimm13
@TaliGrimm13 3 ай бұрын
"BUT... LIKE.." is one the most gratifying things I have ever heard. That sentence alone has healed me. Thank you, Bailey, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
@elzannenel4400
@elzannenel4400 3 ай бұрын
Who wouldn't check on their loved one first in that situation? 🤔 Also, I think he was extremely agile and fast on his stumps as well, not as vulnerable as he would have everyone believe... That sentence was 😒
@Noname-yc5wm
@Noname-yc5wm 3 ай бұрын
And the bathroom was on the second floor of his home, which was only accessible through a small window, that is sus
@simonelourens937
@simonelourens937 3 ай бұрын
​@@Noname-yc5wmAlso, 4 shots directly into the bathroom door? I understand defending yourself, but 4 shots is a bit aggressive, especially since you can't see on the other side.
@emz_xo
@emz_xo 3 ай бұрын
100% a normal reaction would literally be to check on your partner & alert them that you think there's an intruder. Also another point, where exactly did he keep his gun, because you wouldn't fetch a loaded gun in the dark, you'd put a light on, unless you could already see your surroundings meaning he would have known Reeva wasn't there
@angelarivard8326
@angelarivard8326 3 ай бұрын
Anyone who carries a gun responsibly knows that you don’t shoot at anything you can’t see. He had a gun, why didn’t he pound on the door and wait? He didn’t have to run away, he was ready to defend himself and anyone in the house.
@imitationporcelain
@imitationporcelain 3 ай бұрын
​​@@emz_xonormal reaction was to make sure your partner actually is asleep beside you and wake her up to try and call the police and maybe scape then and only then maybe got defend yourself.
@melanie9860
@melanie9860 3 ай бұрын
Hes GUILTY. F Dat guy. He got mad she had the door locked bc he was going after her they were fighting. He's such a lewser it's so obvious
@lizardwhispererfivehead3552
@lizardwhispererfivehead3552 3 ай бұрын
Lew… ser… periodt ! ☹️
@starlinguk
@starlinguk 3 ай бұрын
He's also a violent abuser, so she had every reason to hide.
@francinejones2524
@francinejones2524 3 ай бұрын
I agree.
@amandaherlihy1196
@amandaherlihy1196 3 ай бұрын
😂​@@lizardwhispererfivehead3552
@ProjectDre
@ProjectDre 3 ай бұрын
💯
@TaniaSpies
@TaniaSpies 3 ай бұрын
Ok, Bailey you were giving major Catherine Zeta Jones as Mortica Addams vibes at the end. ❤❤❤❤
@dead_girl8233
@dead_girl8233 3 ай бұрын
was bored & had nothing to watch, then Bailey appears like an angel
@Jazzy_Elizabeth
@Jazzy_Elizabeth 3 ай бұрын
If I wake up with a stomach ache I'm takin my phone with me to the bathroom because I know I'm gonna be there for a lil bit
@ashleydohner4299
@ashleydohner4299 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing 😂
@jeezy2day
@jeezy2day 3 ай бұрын
Doing the same as I speak 😂
@DorkyWolf
@DorkyWolf 3 ай бұрын
Same here
@stephfahey1101
@stephfahey1101 3 ай бұрын
or #2 ;)
@lmzaadi
@lmzaadi 3 ай бұрын
Jesus!
@bajazzogiggles
@bajazzogiggles 3 ай бұрын
I loved how Bailey pronounced some of these South African names. Thank you for doing this story! I think you might find some super interesting South African crime stories.
@LerissaKemp
@LerissaKemp 3 ай бұрын
Apart from "Waterkloof" the nailed them!
@SiphesihleThusini01
@SiphesihleThusini01 3 ай бұрын
As a South African, this episode felt personal and more serious than the others. Oscar's trial was so huge in the country and the media went crazy about it. Unfortunately only Reeva and him know what happened that night because some parts of his story sound a little bit fabricated and do not align with the timeline of events, he was also lucky that he had a strong defense team behind him. His abusive past and aggression episodes also add doubt and kind of invalidate the truthfulness of his story. Back to you Bailey, I love the look for today. You look bold and beautiful as always... Lastly, high five 🖐 for pronouncing Judge Thokozile Masipa correctly 😁.
@hey_thatsmyname
@hey_thatsmyname 3 ай бұрын
28:37 right, if you're used to living with someone, you'd expect any noise to be the other person. If he's used to living alone, I could see that type of reaction right out of sleep.
@charlottewhite3998
@charlottewhite3998 3 ай бұрын
Ok a few months ago my Nail artist had your Mystery & Makeup playing and I loved it so I went back and started from the first episode and worked my way forward. I just finished this episode and am fully caught up!! I love this podcast and you so much!
@GlitterFilter
@GlitterFilter 3 ай бұрын
Not to defend him, I truly believe he killed Reeva on purpose, but the phone thing. I grab for my phone when I wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, just to use my flashlight. My fiancee is sleeping next to me so I don't want to wake him up by turning on any big lights
@virginiaelizabeth4577
@virginiaelizabeth4577 3 ай бұрын
I haven't even gotten to the part you're referencing yet but same... I'd think that's pretty normal 🤷‍♀️
@amandaeskew415
@amandaeskew415 3 ай бұрын
Came here to say the same thing. We live on a farm so when it's dark, it's pitch black. He uses his too if he gets up and I'm asleep.
@stephaniecarroll4740
@stephaniecarroll4740 3 ай бұрын
I feel the same... My phone is always my light.... Also, I've been confused when waking up... But, why not wait for an answer from person in the bathroom before shooting!???
@ashleynoname3580
@ashleynoname3580 3 ай бұрын
That was my thought too. I do the same AND I also read webcomics on my phone, so if I know that I'm going to.. *ahem* be awhile, I will take my phone to read while I am doing "the business" 😂
@rake4396
@rake4396 3 ай бұрын
Same here! My husband is sleeping so I'm not turning on lights and I always take my phone just so I can see lol
@lakayiamcnair1440
@lakayiamcnair1440 3 ай бұрын
Haven't heard Bailey say "do better" or " make better choices" in so long ❤
@Dances.In.Storms
@Dances.In.Storms 3 ай бұрын
Get better idols is my favourite 😂
@Sam-wn1ht
@Sam-wn1ht 3 ай бұрын
23:07 Bailey, he had a loving mom but living as an amputee might have left severe inferiority complexes or resentment within him. We don'tknow may be he faced bullying also. Not defending him, just discussing the difficulties or issues he had faced.
@S0larp4nelx
@S0larp4nelx 3 ай бұрын
6:20 "oh no, bailey.. no.." i felt that deep in my bones . this is the first time i've watched one of your videos, and the captivation of your story-telling, plus makeup, plus silly moments....subscribing immediately!
@vlung2373
@vlung2373 3 ай бұрын
I can't believe you're covering this case. I remember it was huuuuge when it first happened. The whole country was watching with bated breath to see what developed, and it's difficult to describe the iron grip this case had on people. Much love from SA🇿🇦 Edit: I went to school at Pretoria High School for Girls, Pretoria Boys High's sister school. It's so odd to have Bailey talk about locations in stories that I've actually been to. Makes it more real.
@vaiciciaku
@vaiciciaku 3 ай бұрын
The whole world was watching
@Torch0362
@Torch0362 3 ай бұрын
I remember watching all the coverage on it. So tragic.
@micealaspandiel4272
@micealaspandiel4272 3 ай бұрын
I have been asking her to cover this case for years
@alfredfreedomjones5105
@alfredfreedomjones5105 3 ай бұрын
Dude we love South Africa too, thanks for calling out the genocide against gaza 🕊️
@Flamingo_13
@Flamingo_13 3 ай бұрын
Didn't Elon Musk go to Boys High too?
@CheyenneMoore21
@CheyenneMoore21 3 ай бұрын
Bailey! As a South African I am begging you for more South African true crime stories! Please please please!!❤ Ps:Ive been watching you for 3 years now and still loving every second of your videos❤️❤️❤️❤️
@nicolekay7514
@nicolekay7514 3 ай бұрын
😄SAns flooding the comments, I love it. Our girl Bailey tells True crime stories better than the News or any Documentary.❤
@NicoleHenning-dz2vn
@NicoleHenning-dz2vn 3 ай бұрын
Girl as a felllow South African I feel seen
@hannaliepretorius7767
@hannaliepretorius7767 3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@gaylenprinsloo244
@gaylenprinsloo244 3 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you did this story! I've been asking for it since forever. I worked in the fashion industry in Cape Town when this happened, and we were all devastated to loose Reeva in such a horrible way. I never met her myself but a few other designers I worked with had, and they all said she was like a ray of sunshine. Thanks Bailey!
@roseb822
@roseb822 3 ай бұрын
19:28 I don't believe a word. You were so worried about your GF yet you didn't check to make sure she was in bed after you thought you heard an intruder? What if there's was a second intruder? What if they were there for her!? Popular beautiful model! Hmmm Yeah ok buddy! You killed her because she wanted to leave you. Just like every other insecure phyco brat.
@nesisantsele3215
@nesisantsele3215 3 ай бұрын
As a South African 🇿🇦 I have been waiting patiently for you to cover this case, thank you Bailey ❤
@LuthoNyaluza
@LuthoNyaluza 3 ай бұрын
Been here since Chris Watts and requested this case in February around Valentine’s Day , thank you for finally doing it Bailey!! ❤❤🇿🇦
@NicoleHenning-dz2vn
@NicoleHenning-dz2vn 3 ай бұрын
I think a lot of us South African fans were spamming her with this one, and we truly appreciate being heard
@zwabeauty
@zwabeauty 3 ай бұрын
I remember in South Africa we had a special channel dedicated to this trial, everything was televised. I vividly remember coming back from school to watch the Oscar Trial.
@deannegreybe6724
@deannegreybe6724 3 ай бұрын
I'm a south african living in the UK and this story broke as I was on the plane flying back to Johannesburg SA for a holiday, just insane! What happened and fact when I heard about it. Always love you & how you tell these stories x
@AdrienneCM10
@AdrienneCM10 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I had a dear friend pass away in a similar situation. She was a wonderful woman, wife, and mother of two little girls. There had been recent break ins in their neighborhood. The couple thought they heard someone breaking in earlier the same tragic night. So the husband had his gun near him after checking things out the first time. Later during the night he woke up hearing someone in the kitchen. He shot at the figure in the dark room. He assumed his wife was still in bed when he left the room. But she was shot in the chest. Their oldest girl, just 4, called 911 while he performed CPR. That was a tragic mistake. People doubted him but their relationship was full of love. He was on edge from actual break ins. This athlete?! No. With his history, I fully believe he knew who was in that bathroom.
@slideshowgurl
@slideshowgurl 3 ай бұрын
@@2mystichillsno, they said in the first sentence she died!!
@katzacon
@katzacon 3 ай бұрын
Feeling super happy right now! Told my boyfriend about the livestream and he bought me a ticket! In Australia so making sure I get my lunch break at work at the right time to watch it!! Been watching you for YEARS can’t wait ❤
@D_otisdumb
@D_otisdumb 3 ай бұрын
"He walked on his stumps" I love how petty Bailey is when she's describing a scumbag.
@natashaoreilly1644
@natashaoreilly1644 3 ай бұрын
Now he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
@MultiCowgirl22
@MultiCowgirl22 3 ай бұрын
Yeah 😂😂😂😂
@mrsb1212
@mrsb1212 3 ай бұрын
Am I missing something here? Stumps is the medical term. Why is that petty? What am I not getting? 🤷🏼‍♀️
@Phoebenbella
@Phoebenbella 3 ай бұрын
@@mrsb1212same 😂
@mrsb1212
@mrsb1212 3 ай бұрын
@@Phoebenbella I can’t keep up with what is now deemed as offensive and what not 😂
@carinkoch357
@carinkoch357 3 ай бұрын
So happy to see my lovely South Africans enjoying Bailey's videos, it's still so freaklishly cold over here. This case was such a tragedy, Reeva was a beautiful woman who did not deserve to lose her life because of a trigger-happy madman. I just hope her family will remember all the beautiful memories they shared together. 🇿🇦❤
@ntombiyodwadaile9450
@ntombiyodwadaile9450 3 ай бұрын
Finally!!!!!! A case from my country. South Africa ❤❤❤❤thanks Bailey, all the way from Mzansi🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@littlemissevel3607
@littlemissevel3607 3 ай бұрын
1. I think he deliberatly killed her 2. i think his prothetics did give him an unfair advantage. 3. i'm all for rehabilitation but ... his sentence was laughibly short.
@unchenliedeman113
@unchenliedeman113 3 ай бұрын
💯
@Luvomlenze2771
@Luvomlenze2771 3 ай бұрын
South Africans have arrived 🤒🤒🤒🤭 he did it. Experiencing the whole trial in real life was something else.
@LinusVinnportlaced
@LinusVinnportlaced 3 ай бұрын
So, how's the lasting effects of racism and colonisation been working for you?
@GrippiAlex
@GrippiAlex 3 ай бұрын
Wasn’t Gerrie Nel brilliant as the Public Prosecutor. He was an expert on guns but led Oscar down some clever pathways to expose his lies regarding the firearms. He effectively got Oscar to change his defence on day one of cross examination, Oscar then burst into tears because he didn’t understand the law.
@SoothingTrash
@SoothingTrash 3 ай бұрын
Well yes, he obviously did it. The debate is was it deliberate or accidental
@GrippiAlex
@GrippiAlex 3 ай бұрын
@@SoothingTrash No debate. Both the Supreme Court and High Court found him guilty. Not accidental. Only debate is whether he should be out under house arrest. For me answer is no.
@unathinkomo5858
@unathinkomo5858 3 ай бұрын
​​@@SoothingTrashOnly a naive human being in denial thinks it wasn't intentional. He knew what he was doing. You don't fire a gun 4 times at a closed door without knowing who's in there. And how can you not feel that the person you sleep next to isn't in bed when you wake up? How did he not see that? He did it deliberately. It's not rocket science it's common sense. He really thinks we're dumb with his ridiculous excuses. And it was a private Gated community how could he think they'd be an intruder? He really thinks we're dumb
@saraevans7578
@saraevans7578 3 ай бұрын
I love your videos Bailey!! I live in Asheville, NC which was devastated by Hurricane Helene late last week. Most of us are living without power, running water, and limited food & gas supplies. I’m sitting here watching your videos using cellular data to try and gain some comfort. If anyone is reading this, please consider donating to local organizations (BeLoved Asheville, Asheville Survival, and many others) to help us rebuild our town from devastating floods.
@beckykavanaugh211
@beckykavanaugh211 3 ай бұрын
I live in Florida, so sorry for y'all, we had it bad here also
@asisiphozandilenkamisa3822
@asisiphozandilenkamisa3822 3 ай бұрын
Finally she covers a South African true crime story ❤🎉 A proud moment.
@tehyarosedutoit7304
@tehyarosedutoit7304 3 ай бұрын
Yay a South African story!!! Hello from SA❤
@abbagailstanaker6751
@abbagailstanaker6751 3 ай бұрын
I can't afford the live show tickets this month but I'm so excited and proud of you ... Very long time watcher ive remodeled my house, had a baby, and just cooked and cleaned to your videos for years. I love rewatching them ❤️
@cheyannehall2130
@cheyannehall2130 3 ай бұрын
Classic background is back!!! 🤩🤩just in time for spooky season!!!
@stephanieperri5012
@stephanieperri5012 3 ай бұрын
I use my phone as a light, especially if I'm at someone else's house. Also if Oscar shouted at the "suspect" in the bathroom I'd imagine his gf would respond & if she did he would recognize her voice. I don't know. I don't buy this whole "it was an accident" story
@Savannahmai
@Savannahmai 3 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. I don’t think that point was given the attention it deserved. He claims that was his voice screaming (which I don’t even believe) but if it was, wouldn’t she have responded??? I don’t buy it.
@raquelkwela
@raquelkwela 3 ай бұрын
Big fan of MMM, I really look forward to these stories. Today I got so excited when I saw that you talking about a story from my home, South Africa. I remember this story, I even remember his rise to fame. This was absolutely tragic and really shook the country.
@desireekies9822
@desireekies9822 3 ай бұрын
Where are all my fellow South Africans at? 🇿🇦🙋🏼‍♀️
@c.jcloete
@c.jcloete 3 ай бұрын
CAPE TOWN OVER HERE!!! 🎉
@katlehonkosiyane9036
@katlehonkosiyane9036 3 ай бұрын
Here!!!!🎉🎉🎉
@rianavanvuuren4470
@rianavanvuuren4470 3 ай бұрын
Pretoria in the house !!!
@bontlelethetsa
@bontlelethetsa 3 ай бұрын
Midrand❤
@tehyarosedutoit7304
@tehyarosedutoit7304 3 ай бұрын
@@desireekies9822 cape town!!!
@bandezable
@bandezable 3 ай бұрын
What kind of intruder would be in the bathroom? That doesn't make any sense. Also, the first thing I do when I wake up for any reason is check if my husband is beside me.
@annerilouw6402
@annerilouw6402 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for you to cover this case! I’m from South Africa and I’ll never forget when this story broke.
@KTEMTB
@KTEMTB 3 ай бұрын
Random facts: Oscar went to the same school as Elon Musk. My pole vault coach was the court sketch artist at Oscar's trails. This was a very interesting time on the track...
@lesegoseabi4715
@lesegoseabi4715 3 ай бұрын
I really thought she would mention this too😂😂😂
@stephanieramos6047
@stephanieramos6047 3 ай бұрын
Oscar?! One of my professors does research on prosthetic legs (I’m getting a masters in kinesiology) He taught us about Oscar and the whole prosthetic leg debate!! Crazy stuff but very interesting.
@dreamy9919
@dreamy9919 3 ай бұрын
What is his opinion on the advantage debate?
@stephanieramos6047
@stephanieramos6047 3 ай бұрын
@@dreamy9919 He believes there is no advantage. He’s a biomechanics professor so he has done multiple research experiments with runners that have prosthetic legs. He’s actually testified in court for the side of Paralympic athletes against the Olympic organization. At the end of the day, the athletes lost a limb or even two and there is no way they can ever get those back. That’s a disadvantage period. Also wearing a prosthetic leg is not the most comfortable experience no matter how long the person has been wearing them. They’re stuck with blisters and pain (even phantom pain) for the rest of their lives.
@amyconstable8727
@amyconstable8727 3 ай бұрын
​@stephaniera🎉mos6047
@nolipgloss1343
@nolipgloss1343 3 ай бұрын
@@stephanieramos6047 Thanks for sharing. Very insightful. Here I was thinking he did and after reading your reply I realized that I don't have a clue how it even works lol.
@stephanieramos6047
@stephanieramos6047 3 ай бұрын
@@Ajcarter95 There are rules and regulations for those things. But I invite you to learn more about what it’s like to wear a prosthetic leg for just every day occasions and running too.
@samanthaachilles
@samanthaachilles 3 ай бұрын
As South African hearing this story so many times it still breaks my heart, I can remember the day this broke on the news. I feel so much for Reeva family.
@hannaliepretorius7767
@hannaliepretorius7767 3 ай бұрын
Yaaaayyy! finally a story from south africa . (theres A LOT more tho 💀💀💀)
@Aunty87
@Aunty87 3 ай бұрын
😮Ohf, the three skulls... 😢
@trishashaffer8278
@trishashaffer8278 3 ай бұрын
What do u know
@NicoleHenning-dz2vn
@NicoleHenning-dz2vn 3 ай бұрын
I'm hoping she will cover Mr Van Breda next
@carlynmoodaly9779
@carlynmoodaly9779 3 ай бұрын
@@NicoleHenning-dz2vn For sure the Alison Botha case aswell
@hannaliepretorius7767
@hannaliepretorius7767 3 ай бұрын
@@NicoleHenning-dz2vn yessssss
@joyvsmith9264
@joyvsmith9264 3 ай бұрын
So glad you are doing a case from my neck of the woods Miss. Bailey 🇿🇦
@powellinaALDAY
@powellinaALDAY 3 ай бұрын
26:54 I take my phone to use as a light, that could be it?
@katiebassett1366
@katiebassett1366 Ай бұрын
Yes!!! I always grab my phone in the middle of the night because my room is pitch black. Not saying that is what happened here, but it’s possible.
@Nayyy-824
@Nayyy-824 3 ай бұрын
29:07 yes ma’am that’s my exact thought too!!! He thought that part through !!
@arialunaj
@arialunaj 3 ай бұрын
I followed this story and court case very closely. One of the biggest public ones in South Africa. Whole country shocked!! At the time we didn't know what to believe... thanks for covering Bailey!! Love from SA ❤
@CathleenLancashire
@CathleenLancashire 3 ай бұрын
Honestly I’ve been wanting this one for so long, because I’m in SA and I still remember listening to the hole thing on the news. So thank you so much because I never heard what happened with him
@pointlesspettingzoo
@pointlesspettingzoo 3 ай бұрын
Do a dark history of Chernobyl. I know it may seem like it's been covered plenty but after watching the hbo mini series I would really like your perspective and break-down!
@Unfilteredmomlyfe
@Unfilteredmomlyfe 3 ай бұрын
Yesss
@strix_aliana
@strix_aliana 3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@MrsT23
@MrsT23 3 ай бұрын
0:40 I got my ticket, merch and vip. So excited! Thank you Bailey.
@matshepomathope9267
@matshepomathope9267 3 ай бұрын
I've been watching baileys videos for years now and I never thought she would cover this. Thank you bailey. All the way from 🇿🇦
@hannahb0331
@hannahb0331 3 ай бұрын
This look is AMAZING Also, I feel bad for her poor family. I just can’t understand why he wouldn’t check on her first, especially if they were so in love.
@MHDbeauty
@MHDbeauty 3 ай бұрын
Yeeeesss Me and my anxiety needed something to be scared of, other than... everything else 😀😀
@Stormandlilly
@Stormandlilly 3 ай бұрын
I felt this 😂
@moniquejanjetich2122
@moniquejanjetich2122 3 ай бұрын
Wow! My friend went to all the hearings back in 2013 and we use to discuss it everyday day school. I currently resdide in Waterkloof AND I also used to work with Gerrie Nell who was the prosecutor. Thank you for covering this! 👏🙌
@zede-leerobberts4862
@zede-leerobberts4862 3 ай бұрын
Here from South Africa 🇿🇦
@hunterfaith8660
@hunterfaith8660 3 ай бұрын
9,276 views in 24 minutes… you are such a gift to us all, Bailey! So happy to see your following grow with each video you post. I hope you’re as proud of yourself as we all are of you! ❤️
@chlosaxon
@chlosaxon 3 ай бұрын
78k in 3 hours 😅
@sue-annrhodes3053
@sue-annrhodes3053 2 ай бұрын
Ya this was a crazy polarising moment in south african history. Glad you brought light to it. Also your make looks incredible 🔥🔥🔥
@CharaDK
@CharaDK 3 ай бұрын
A story that makes sense to me is that they got into an argument and she locked herself in the bathroom to escape and protect herself. He probably lost it and shot at the door.
@campfantastic7850
@campfantastic7850 3 ай бұрын
Probably pulled out his gun and she took her phone and locked herself in the bathroom. Guy must be super man because how the F did he shoot her so precisely without seeing her? Through the door? Wild.
@SmoshBitCity
@SmoshBitCity 3 ай бұрын
Finally Oscar's story being told. Hopefully we can get Rosemary Ndlovu's story soon🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@mondemgomezulu7779
@mondemgomezulu7779 3 ай бұрын
Thabo Bester😂😂😂
@elzannenel4400
@elzannenel4400 3 ай бұрын
Yes please!
@SmoshBitCity
@SmoshBitCity 3 ай бұрын
@@mondemgomezulu7779 yes that one also
@DetWheresmycoffee-smh
@DetWheresmycoffee-smh 3 ай бұрын
I hope Bailey will be able to pronounce her Surname, you know how she is with names and words
@lelethugoduka2091
@lelethugoduka2091 3 ай бұрын
Yes, the Rosemary Ndlovu story is a wild ride!!
@TrueCrimeStoryTimeWithPrimmy
@TrueCrimeStoryTimeWithPrimmy 3 ай бұрын
A South African story..... Love it. We love you 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@longnailliyaaa3645
@longnailliyaaa3645 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been going through withdrawals 😩✨ WE NEEDED THIS💜 Thank you!! 🔊🔊🔊Topic suggestion: dark history of Max security Prisons !
@kelsiecoats5928
@kelsiecoats5928 3 ай бұрын
I really hope you feel better soon ❤ you got this
@RiddleTales
@RiddleTales 3 ай бұрын
The ex gf told me all i need to know.
@tillimaus
@tillimaus 3 ай бұрын
I remember that case so well. The German media talked about it so much when it happened. I remember sitting in my grandparents living room while a TV debate was going on about if he is guilty or not.
@dianeotto100
@dianeotto100 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering a true crime South African story, please do more! 🇿🇦
@daniellemarielove
@daniellemarielove 3 ай бұрын
More candles!!! Love when you had ALL the candles 🖤🕯
@WolfDreamer101
@WolfDreamer101 3 ай бұрын
I think she said she’ll be adding more!
@CrackyFox
@CrackyFox 3 ай бұрын
The bathroom was en-suite in the bedroom. The bathroom window was literally too high up for anyone to access without a tall ladder - there was no ladder anywhere, nor any security camera footage of anyone near the house at any point that night/morning. Gerrie Nel (the attorney) and his awesome advocate did a stellar job of finding all the evidence to prosecute and get him sentenced. He had legitimate anger/rage issues. Reeva stood no chance. RIP.
@katebeshear6208
@katebeshear6208 3 ай бұрын
I absolutely love your background!!! I've missed the candles. So excited for your Halloween episodes.
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