The Greatest Concept Ever Done in Monster Hunter

[@Just_a_rathalos151]

I also think they should bring back the seasons in some capacity, because it was a really cool mechanic

[@孫慧娟-u9c]

Instead of making maps completely inaccessible, make it change the landscape so it becomes a whole new map to explore Instead of making monsters disappear during mating season, have them appear more often in differet forms, some way more aggressive then usual due to hormones driving them crazy.

[@Just_a_rathalos151]

@@孫慧娟-u9c I mean, it's mating season: we have two monsters' variant that are literally that: - Black Diablos (YES I KNOW IT IS A SUB BUT SHE'S ALSO A FEMALE IN HEAT) - Mating season Hypnocatrice (it's in the effing name)

[@brotbrotsen1100]

​@@孫慧娟-u9c in this Form it sounds good and like a actually good mechanic. Ngl the original was just not great and only served to limit you after a while.

[@victoriazero8869]

Honestly with the current graphical fidelity the season change is going to be brutal on resources. The game is going to be so bloated.

[@AlyxTheProtogen]

​@@孫慧娟-u9c that just reminds me of some...uh...mods...

[@camil3545]

It definitely is one of those things that sounds awesome and interesting in concept, but probably becomes an annoying limiting factor in practice for most players who just want to go out and hunt monster X without wanting to wait around for seasons to change. If it ever came back, with modern gamers, i'm sure that there would be a demand to have an option to fast-forward time to reach the season that you want to do stuff in, which kinda defeats the purpose of having seasons rather than just have quests with unique modifiers.

[@carstan62]

It's a cool concept for sure. I definitely agree that if it was brought back in its existing state it would be awful for trying to grind though. I do think there are ways to fix it though. For example, maybe when you accept a quest you'll be able to set it to any day/season combination that you've already cleared the quest on. This would make it so that you'd still have to deal with the time mechanics at least for the first time. You should definitely be able to hunt any monster during any season, but maybe the area you hunt it in would change.

[@L_Rod]

Exactly that. As I said, a great deal of those old gen mechanics people love in concept are shit to interact with are actively anti-fun.

[@brotbrotsen1100]

I 200% agree. You see people often gush over older mechanics in one game or another while it is actually a pain to deal with after a certain point. I recently felt this with the diablo 2 remake on a few occasions. We look back at things through rose tinted glasses.

[@ПётрПавловский-щ1х]

Good maybe you will be gatekept successfully and never taint the franchise again rise kiddie

[@ПётрПавловский-щ1х]

@@L_Rod cope

[@meglo03]

Was literally describing this to some friends who were watching a stream of Dos and I was trying to recall info from Jakob's 3-hour video essay. Thank you for sharing this!

[@thechugg4372]

trying to recall info from Jakob's essay will make you insane

[@magnabueno5360]

Playing DOS, and idfk what caused that man to say that game was good.😊

[@jaylenpeoples6517]

Jakob who? Geller?!?

[@St-si8cd]

@@thechugg4372 jakob who?

[@arsia.]

Jakob 3h vid found here, Channel name: Jakob // monster hunter

[@DanielisAwesome52]

I think Outbreaks are a spiritual successor to the Season mechanic. Each map has its own and it is random, but it changes what small monsters appear, and what items you get more of when gathering. In Rise it also changes mid quest, you only get I believe 10 minutes of an outbreak before it changes to another. In World it was also the only way to get certain rare Account Items and subsequently the only way to unlock certain food buffs.

[@Botta928]

I am currently playing mhtri, and I love old gen mechanics! In world/rise I feel like something like the moga forest is missing, where you get to kill monsters to later report to the chief son, and he would give you special materials which can be traded with the japanese dude for other special materials, I loved that! They could have done that with the forest in world, and maybe trade materials from the old world. I also miss cha-cha, I love kittens but cha-cha is just so iconic

[@Aevum13th]

Sounds somewhat similar to something in MH4U. You exchange monster materials for materials from monsters that don't appear in the game, and you can use them to make new armours or weapons. As an example, I remember giving over Teostra monsters parts in exchange for Lunastra parts (monster didn't appear in that game), and used them to make new weapons and armour.

[@TornaitSuperBird]

@@Aevum13th I loved the Wyporium's concept. Even if you don't get to see and hunt the monster, you at least still get to use its' armor and weapons.

[@L_Rod]

That mechanic is annoying AF. Not only is the only way to obtain points but the grind that comes with it is not fun in any way since you depend on RNG to have the monsters you want to spawn. I wouldn't mind a similar mechanic as an ALTERNATIVE to get other types of materials and stuff, but this being the only way to get trade items and points is one of the most annoying aspects of 3U, no wonder it hasn't returned. A huge number of old gen mechanics don't come back due to despite being immersive, they are not fun at all to interact with.

[@Botta928]

@@L_Rod really? I loved that mechanic, despite being rng you could see the next 6 hunts in the moga forest and do some guild quest in the meantime, or just go resource collecting

[@L_Rod]

@@Botta928 I can see what you mean, and I'm glad you pointed your perspective on that. I honestly get how it could be interesting for some people, but I honestly don't like any mechanic that forces me to do something I don't want, that's the issue I take with Moga Forest. If I could obtain moga points like research points in other MH games, just by playing and doing regular quests, and resources in another more passive way and have moga woods as an alternative method to obtain/farm them more consistently I'd be up for it, but I absolutely hate stopping what I'm currently doing in the game in order to farm resources to complete requests. It breaks the flow of the game for me and turns it into a chore. I still need to get back to playing 3U and finish High Rank, but I need to farm for gear and farming alone is just boring since it takes too long.

[@Jurther]

Great video! Thanks for the credits and thanks for sharing the MH Oldschool project of reviving MH2! The seasons may never come back but MH2 will! See you in Dundorma!

[@izamanaick]

the removal of the medium bowgun is the true crime

[@AzGrahm]

I hope one day we will have a spin off with the same mentality as the old mh Basically it's preparation that make success not really the fight (kind of a witcher vibe too)

[@magnabueno5360]

I mean If you prepare perfectly and end up triple cart then maybe fight makes success.

[@Leo-ok3uj]

@@magnabueno5360 No possible If you end up carting three times you clearly didn’t prepared at all

[@Knitmur]

@@Leo-ok3uj It is very much possible, if you prep and you have all these things memorized but you blank or mistime dodging it is 100000% possible to die and lose. I am personally not a huge fan of the prepping and min maxing everything before a fight but I think it should at least be a option for those who care about it more.

[@mugiwara929]

exactly it was all about the prep TThat would be crazy! since that was monster hunters whole thing it was literally the most fun thing. U would fight a monster loose then analyze its movements strenghts and weaknesses and tweak ur preparation and fighting strategy until u beat it like a true Hunter. U really had to use ur brain in more than one way.

[@Aescavalis]

This is my 2nd monster hunter game to play back in february 2006, was really surprising to see subspecies monsters for the first time, the season system, upgrading village system, even the food system were really depends on recipes for getting a proper buff though, and even seeing an elder dragon for the first time (i cant play mh1 online though), kushala daora really take a place in my heart of being an majesty monster though, god i love mh2dos and grateful for playing it back in old days

[@kingofflames738]

They could do so much with this nowadays. Maybe even change the map layout depending on season. Mizutsune and Black Diablos quests could also only be available during Breeding Season.

[@OMGYOUARER8GHT]

The swamp map have lot of poison spots when it's not raining

[@kingofflames738]

@@OMGYOUARER8GHT I was thinking a bit bigger. Like, in winter the Forest and Hills could be covered in snow, some lakes frozen over and thus expanding the area size. In summer there could be more water in jungle areas which if underwater combat came back could expand those areas while shrinking others.

[@OMGYOUARER8GHT]

@@kingofflames738 Ahh,this sound cool,but I hope these changes would not become advantages for monsters only

[@magnabueno5360]

The layout idea sounds kinda nice, but the quest locking sounds frustrating.

[@Aoenias]

I actually really liked the temperature mechanics during 4th generation monster hunter because I liked to use armorsets that had both tropical hunter and polar hunter skills so that not only was I ready for any temperature but the drinks to protect against temperatures turned into buffs.

[@TheRiz1205]

Somewhat returning in WILDS after the new recent trailer dropped ! Rotating season !

[@zansolo5653]

Sounds cool, would be nice to see in MH6, but honestly it's just gonna be a hassle to play around if we get all the quality of life stuff from even just World. Dedicated players like myself would definitely enjoy playing around it, but any casual player looking for some hunts after a long day would just find it annoyingly.

[@jamesproctor4568]

Seasons would be cool for expeditions and investigation-type hunts, with story and generic repeatable quests being fixed seasons. That or doing something that could be a better implemented mhgu, and have seasons tied to specific villages, where you can select what season to hunt in, with certain story quests needing to be started in certain villages.

[@deer8071]

honestly it still surprises me that the day/night cycles in the newer games don't play a bigger role. For example, according to a certain quest description, tobi kadachis are nocturnal, but you can still find them during the day. Hell, even the main quest for him takes place during the day. I've always liked the idea of certain monsters only being huntable during certain times of day, but I guess it makes sense that Capcom doesn't implement this as a mechanic, as some people would probably find that annoying.

[@DeltaDaspleto]

MH Dos also had PVP monster pet battles which frontier inherited as well

[@Maki-GS]

I saw Jurther made a video about Pvp. It was interesting.

[@Xzunia]

Ah yes the three seasons: Warm Cold Séx

[@isaacdare9960]

Monster Hunter Wilds is gonna have dynamic weather! :D

[@XiasIV]

My biggest gripe about Rise is how dumbed down it is. It's primarily focused on hunting and nothing else. Paintballs arent needed, tracking is non existent. Me and all my long time friends say the same thing. It doesnt feel like im a hunter. , it just feels like I'm in a boss rush game It's why I love MH2 and World.

[@justinross9833]

Modern MH titles to me, has lost the "Hunting Simulation" I came to love from the older titles. Even the gathering spots that don't have any label when you walk past was something I enjoyed since you can boast to friends where you can get certain items. The information you slowly get accustomed to was the highlight for me when I first picked this title way back to MHFU. It was tedious and grindy but, the journey to mastering each big monster through repetitive hunt or reading through hunter notes was my source of dopamine for MH. These days, I simply go back to playing MH3U or MH4U since I couldn't get my hands on way older titles. A shame that newer titles are beginning to look more like God Eater than Monster Hunter.

[@mugiwara929]

Exactly! is kinda ironic how it got "better" but the core of monster hunter really got lost. The new games dont really feel like monster hunter anymore. Back then u really had to use ur brain and learn the game and thinks like preparation really mattered. I also mainly reverted back to playing mhf till freedom unite on psp. These new games look nice and are certainly fun to play but not as fun as the old games were really felt like a hunter

[@Gak237]

I thought it was weird that with the massive boom in survival games around 2010 that we didn't see another more survival-focused monster hunter game.

[@emblemblade9245]

MH1 is a survival game in disguise

[@north306]

I recently played through the full offline mode of MHDos and had no idea of the preferred season and preferred day/night mechanics! That sure explains how sometimes a monster I thought was easy would absolutely slap me

[@TrillForTheWorld]

here i thought the night and day cycle from mhtri was special, i wanna experience cycles so much! thanks for sharing

[@ShRkDa]

I could see the season mechanic returning on a smaller scale, with maybe the quests themselves either having a certain season locked or you being able to choose one when going out

[@warpgate9695]

I've heard about the season mechanics of MH Dos but never looked up more about it before. Ngl, if they brought this back to future MH games, I think even just that feature might be enough to change things up and helps on breaking the cycle a little bit from being too monotonous at times. Maybe still we can still be able to go to certain areas even if the season/climate/weather is against us, like going to the volcanic areas in summer or tundra areas in winter, but with a significant drawbacks, such as maybe needing to drink two Hot/Cold drinks instead of just one. Then if, for example, in winter, in addition to a harsher weather in the tundra area, the forest area would be affected too in a sense that it becomes a secondary "normal" snowy area, which in turn have monsters from the tundra area go there. Of course it won't be just that, rewards could be amped up at those times to rewards hunters for enduring those situations. Besides that, depending on the season, maybe some monsters would be a lot more hostile and aggressive, and/or be enraged longer, etc., which would also amp up the difficulty in stable weather and seasons. Although it's probably a lot of work as to why they removed the feature, but if that is one feature that they need to bring back.

[@jazminlopez7575]

Funny enought monster from some blocked zones in a season actually move to other zones. Example Daimyo is in the dessert but in warm season you can find them in the Jungle because is hot enought for them to survive; Khezhu you can fight them in the Snowy mountains but in cold season you find them in the swap because is cold enought for they to survive. Monster also change actitude in season velociprey will attack you in a Rathian hunt but will help you againts her if you fight her in breeding season they will not agro on you and constally jump onto the Rathian until she leaves the zone. The reason is because Rathians hunts velociprey in breeding season so they know you are attacking a predator of they and help

[@bonesreturns1]

unlike some of the comments, id love for this to return. ive been playing through rise just recently and it feels so arcadey, so lifeless, even compared to world. you just run in, kill the monster, thats in. mechanics like seasons adds so much. makes you feel like the world exists without you, that you have to work around its rules. it would be quite immersive.

[@forlogic53]

I actually like this. The whole game is a massive story quest of its own, with you planning out your hunts for a year. I hope they revisit it in some way in the next generation.

[@Austenite75]

Season mechanic sounds pretty cool. I honestly don't mind if they bring this back, BUT, it need to be implemented correctly. Something like : communicating the system to the player, making the debuff effect to be less punishing, and boost the buff effect. That way there's actually a reason to use the mechanic, and the one that doen't care about it does not feel punished for playing the way they want.

[@gluttonyfang6674]

I still think that older Monster Hunter games that are focused more on preparations are better, but I know that new players today are more geared toward the action side of the game. I'm fine if Capcom brings this back, but changes are definitely needed to cater to new and old audiences.

[@deaj8450]

There could be balance between old and new philosophy, and I think it would be really interesting. But we'll likely never see it. My dream for wilds is having the open world with hardcore mechanics like Dos, but just make it less grindy to compensate. Make it so that if you hunt 2 or 3 of a particular monster, you will likely have enough materials for its armor or whatever weapon you want. As it is, you can fight Rathalos a dozen times hoping for one plate for armor, only to find the upgraded weapon also needs a plate. It's a bit ridiculous. I think it would be super compelling to, as a hunter, migrate from biome to biome in the open world as the seasons change. You need raw meat? Find the Aptonoth's migration paths and stalk them. Then as you're following them, a wyvern whose weapon you want ambushes them to prey on them and you get an organic opportunity to achieve your goals. You want to hunt a cold weather monster, but it is winter? Better have cold insulating armor along with hot drinks. I think this is all a step too far for 95% of the current player base though.

[@zan6102]

For anyone that wishes to know, the mh freedom series is the same as the mh series on the ps2. Monster hunter freedom is the first monster hunter, and freedom unite is the second. The main differences are that they were modified for psp and their difficulty was toned down along with some additions. Though now that I think about it, I may need to double check freedom unite as I don't remember if dos is the second game or not. I could of sworn fu was a remake of the second. I'll reply with my findings

[@zan6102]

My founding are that dos and f2 or fu as it may also be called are different games, but freedom is still the same as the first game. F2 and dos are both co tinyations of the first game, following different characters going through different stories but they have the same maps and weapons

[@deaj8450]

Basically the "lineage" goes mh1, mhg, mh2, mhf, mhfu. But mhf and mhfu are much closer to mhg in gameplay than mh2, so I would consider mhf and fu to be spiritual successors to mhg where mh2 is the spiritual successor to mh1. The gameplay style of dos is very unique and honestly a bit foreign to the rest of the franchise.

[@zan6102]

@@deaj8450 I can't say I agree with you fully, as the idea of a spiritual successor is up to one's beliefs, and so is the thing that would be considered the successor. Personally, I think freedom is the successor to the first mh, with fu being the successor to freedom, improving and streamlining the controls for a more comfortable portable experience. Also, isn't generations older than that? I know gu is much newer than g, but it can't be that big of a difference

[@deaj8450]

@zan6102 When I say successor I just mean that the gameplay systems and overall feel. Monster Hunter 2 feels a lot closer to the first game than it does to freedom or fu. When I say mhg I'm not referring to any generations game, I'm referring to Monster Hunter G. It's basically a Monster Hunter 1+. Same game as one mostly but with some more Monster and features.

[@ashleylongley1628]

I’ve been replaying mh3u and the water combat is not as bad as people say imo. Talking about old mechanics they could bring this back. I think mechanics like these are only looked as clunky because the old games are more clunky.

[@averageplayers5288]

as long as they give you an in game way of checking how seasons affect monsters without having to buy a strategy guide or looking them up online id love to see a return of this mechanic.

[@9ball179]

I can see how incredibly annoying and tedious it is (depending on how much time it takes to change seasons, im not sure). However it seems like such a cool concept. A lot of Monster Hunter is about the preparation. Having to put a little more thought into what you need and when would make the reward feel better i think

[@SolRynn]

My ideal implementation of the Seasonal mechanic would be restricting those seasons to the hunts themselves and not the hub world. This would let players take on the quest at any time, but they'd still have to plan out for the season as the monsters would, like before, be affected by things like temperature, weather, time, etc. I'd have the seasons be broken down into the same three as before (Warm, Cold, & Breeding) with the addition of a fourth "Rainy Season" The big deal with the Seasons this time however would be how they would affect maps as well. This time around, Hunters could do things like go to the snow map during the cold season, but they had better prepare accordingly as the cold will be much more intense than what is the norm. Maps would be slightly changed as well layout wise depending on the season. For example, let's say that on our forest map, there are cliffs that the Hunter just wouldn't be able to reach normally. However, during the Rainy Season, plants have grown out and now the hunter would have vines and whatnot that appear to change how the hunter traverses the map which could allow them to reach those cliffs now. Similarly, perhaps caves that are normally accessible are closed off due to piles of snow and ice blocking the way during the cold season. This could go on to also affect temperature. Perhaps on the Volcanic map during the cold season, the Volcano is dormant and it isn't hot anymore until you get very deep into the caverns where there's more lava to heat up the place. The opposite could be true as well for a snowy mountain map where during the warm season, the snow and ice mostly melts away and rather than a snow map, we now have a more rocky mountainous map. And all of these changes could in turn affect how monsters might behave, what ones show up in areas for expeditions, and even things like endemic life to be found, items to be gathered, and natural traps such as like in the Ancient Forest in World having the water dam or the vines falling to trap monsters being affected by the changing seasons. Perhaps during the rainy season in the desert, The temperature is cooled during the day and there is an abundance of quicksand affecting both the hunter and monsters on the map. I feel like this paired with day and night could give hunters plenty of variety in how a hunt might go down and they'd have to plan accordingly.

[@KingRobRool]

Good to see there's other people crazy enough to go back and play Dos! Did you beat it though?

[@Maki-GS]

Still progressing through the offline mode.

[@paolosolcruz]

Great content as always man! This really takes me back to the OG and PSP days! Takes me back to the good old days!

[@RedwindAndBeyond]

Didn’t MH frontier have this exact same system since the gameplay is based on the MH dos? Even though I have not played this game, but the immersion it gives is quite interesting depending on the situation of the hunt and still keeps part of the importance of preparation. 3:02 I feel called out 😢 Edit: although I’m grateful for the Quality of life that we have gotten through out the years, it would be nice to get something this immersive similar to the old farming, but more streamlined that doesn’t break the immersion and as well as the season mechanic that can be less annoying to do.

[@SomeGeneralName]

Yea, Frontier also has the seasons mechanic, but afaik, it just affects what materials you can get from gathering, bug catching, and mining, and not the quests Edit: oh yea it also affects the food as well

[@yamatorisan]

🤡Because it’s literally the same source since frontier was released in the Asia territory.

[@theadmiral4157]

Bringing back seasons sounds interesting. Imagine looking at a now dried up lake in the forest during summer season

[@vitorvena]

I expected anything but Seasons to mentioned and i was pleasantly surprised to see my favorite feature from my favorite game being recognised...

[@raphaellessard4385]

I had never played MH 2 and seeing it in this video it's crazy just how much everything in it from graphics to UI and menus looks like like the MH mmo Monster Hunter Frontier. I never knew MHF was based on Dos.

[@ПётрПавловский-щ1х]

Same music too

[@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf]

@@ПётрПавловский-щ1х every game shares music numbnut

[@connormcguire484]

“I gave Monster Hunter 2 a TRI” I see what you did there and I’m so proud of you for taking that opportunity, sir.

[@wizardboy3008]

Funfact, sometimes you'll find a common monster with irregular size on breeding season in Dos, just like on MH3U. But unlike 3U, it doesn't have an extra carve or special item inside them nor extra HP which make them more durable, they're just common monster with different size. I've ever encounters a huge bullfango, my char is just as tall as his bottom nose. Also you could find the lil version of them, as for me I've ever met a foot size hermitaur I barely could see it when he walk in the bush.

[@Attaxalotl]

Seasons, Switch Skills, something like the Wirebugs, and Hunter Styles makes my dream game.

[@leonidasvonsparta]

Things I want back : Swimming It would be an opportunity for new monsters living in the water. Also with modern technology it should be possible to adjust the movement and controls to be better and more precise as in the past. Seasons Every map has 4 versions and different monster in the different seasons. Bring hot and cold drinks back or some skills for it. I would love to see a more immersive experience instead of a battle simulator. At least they could split it in 2 games.

[@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf]

It would be cool if every map had 4 different versions of them but I feel like that would cause the development time to skyrocket lol

[@michaeld2622]

One thing I still remember and fond in MH2 Dos is the unique BBQ Spit. Each has different music and the BBQ Man Spit is my favorite. Oh one more thing, you can also BBQ fish in MH2 Dos which I find it so nostalgic and.. days, I'm old..

[@PuffPastry-ke3cm]

They should definitely bring this back! Let's get some monsters with seasonal forms, like how irl animals change throughout the seasons.

[@JasonMC-wc1jr]

I think a mechanic like this would benefit a more roleplaying version of the game, so if this was added to some extent ,I think it should be in a monster hunter with a real focus on the story, the world building, the main and side characters. It would also add urgency to quests and item collection. Needless to say a rework of item drop rates and rarity would be needed as well as a bunch of changes. A more open world kind of game seems like a better fit for this as well. Think of it like a hunter always on an expedition on the search for something and stopping by towns throughout the journey, seasons would change throughout the journey and backtracking or exploring things that were unavailable before would be amazing. Needless to say I see a ton of potential for this but its likely never gonna happen :(

[@sorinsnow3232]

If they could revamp this mechanic; maybe add a "hunting season" opposite breading season to serve as the autumn/fall equivalent where bonepiles have more bones, small prey are way less abundant, and predators are more active; maybe integrate the seasons with the weather mechanic and upsurge mechanic as well: i feel like it could really breath a lot more life into the game world, and if they maybe try bringing back underwater but with the better modern camera and some massive improvements on the underwater mobility and agility I feel like bringing back the older abandoned mechanics in improved ways like this would be a fantastic way of improving some future MH game Like imagine the imteractive environments and endemic life of MHW, maybe with the funtional endemic life of MHR tossed in, using and improving upon those 2 older mechanics, mounting instead of wyvern riding, something to grant us wire bug levels of mobility but without the broken mechanics to replace wire bugs themselves, with the quest system that MHR brought back after MHW dropped it, maybe bringing in the travelling between towns we saw in (was it 4 or Generations?) Just imagine Underwater (but actually good) in Warm Season with MHW level of graphics, matbe bearing witness to an underwater turf war

[@OMGYOUARER8GHT]

People:It's sad to see Dos's season got cancelled Dos's Dev team:Hehe Nature is harsh

[@chowrites6179]

Anything that deepens, not complicates, the hunting process should be implemented in MH

[@mistywww3199]

I am quite surprised that this mechanic never appeared in monster hunter world considering the type of immersion that game was trying to give.

[@rexailos475]

i went to a hunt with lutyrannus in mh1, he's doing so much for old MH it's amazing

[@crag6523]

They could make it work with irl seasons. Like in winter the snowy mountains get even moreso affecting movement, areas nearby also gain snow and ice monsters can start appearing in those areas. Summer the snow retreats. The desert could have rainy seasons in place of autumn/winter/spring and have the area grow more cacti, making monoblos migrate in and out of diablos territory (seasonal monster appearances). Heck could even work some breeding season logic in, mid summer black diablos appear to lay eggs in the warmth, which hatch as the rainy season starts as all the cacti appear then. Maybe gigginox invades khezu territory near the end of winter to feed off them before the khezu migrate to colder regions in spring. It would have to be a huge world to really take advantage of this but with a mechanic like this a big open world monster hunter could live for years

[@gwyndalf347]

Thank's you to showing this to people who think that MH2Dos is the same game with less content than MHFu. (you forget to mention that the maps where also changing during the cicle of day and night). Maybe they would bring back this mechanic in Two or three generations, if they do a sort of an open world game or something like this. The system of seasons is why MH2Dos is one of the monster hunter that I prefer(with MHFu, MH3Tri, MHW(no iceborne) and maybe MH4u). And also one of the video games that I prefer period.

[@arminlutz8294]

Just did another all quests playthrough of mhfu last year, man this game is just so perfect.

[@megavolt67]

In light of the announcement of Wilds and how it appears to be an open world game, I'm wondering if Capcom may draw on some of these environmental ideas from Dos. It may not have seasons per se, but it could still be interesting if certain things like the weather and whether it's day or night had some impact on whether a monster appears and/or its combat behavior. The trailer did show a thunder storm having an impact on one of the smaller monsters.

[@jimincos]

yes from what people described wheater is going to change deastically even the map

[@evodolka]

i recon they COULD bring this back since Rise removes the hot/cold drinks, perhaps you could still visit the desert & tundra on those seasons but you will NEED the hot/cold drink to not die, perhaps fire & ice element could work a little different on the seasons too

[@PGM_EGG]

4:17 imma need that gif of plesioth plz

[@bisdakaraokeatbp]

wishing for it to be in MH Wilds

[@jujicof]

Yo dude, fck yes, seasons and bounty board, thats 2 things id love if they could ever bring back

[@D.B.M.]

They could return this feature, but not with the limitation of maps or monsters disappearing. -Mating season could make the monsters much more aggressive and dealing more damage; -Cold and Warm season could change the areas a little bit and make hunters use special consumables to walk without receiving damage, like the Hot/Cold drinks, but stronger.

[@DeadEye364]

I want them to bring back the whole mechanic of damaging monster parts weakens or disables certain moves/mechanics. Don’t like getting poisoned by Rathalos? Break his talons, and his talon attacks wouldn’t poison you.

[@thenerdbeast7375]

Breeding Season should be the opposite, with monsters being more common and more aggressive because the need to breed has made them more ornery and territorial. Also because of the traveling some animals do to look for mates and establish territories, it should make some rare monsters appear more often.

[@paulandreig.sahagun34]

Imagine a hunt, when we would need to stop 2 or more Mitsuzune male during a Breeding season, because they're in heat and are the aggressive beings around that time in Wilds, just maybe in the future too.

[@athos9293]

Monster Hunter Frontier also has this season mechanic, but it's not so relevant unless you're planning to gather stuff on the map

[@ShadoughGuardian]

Awesome video. Seems like a cool concept, but what is that outro music man? Soothed my soul for a second.

[@Cassapphic]

Themain issue seasons has is most of the changes are "no you cant do that right now" I would be interested to see it return but with more positive aspects rather than "doing this at thos time is either a bad idea or impossoble outright"

[@philcollins5457]

I never played Dos, but I can see why they cut this mechanic. Bluntly: the amount of prep you'd need to do before hunting (food, the weather, your gear etc.) are all realistic things you need to do before ANY hunt, be it here in the real world for a deer or in MH for a Kulu-Ya-Ku. My hunch is that quite a few people didn't understand or didn't want all that prep, they just wanted to do the monster murder, so Capcom trimmed it out. Which is a shame, because I also think it's a neat concept.

[@ShinmenTakezoVgbnd]

That's surprising i didn't know that you are a Filipino

[@notriban]

Real Idk?

[@mokadelic4037]

Damn, YES, this would actually be amazing. A game of the same scope and polish of MH World/Iceborne, plus season mechanics that change the ecosystem and the monsters? Count me in!!

[@tiffyfemboy]

*Sadly, Tiktok kids dont want to prepare nowadays.* They want things fast... like if time is passing faster, but it isnt.

[@miru2583]

they did bring it back in World with that golden breast monster. although not a full season mechanic but rather a similar time-gated event. many were not fan of those. for me, I'd like for prepping mechanic to be in focus again. collecting honey and stuff before the actual hunt. i felt like a true hunter. now its just A to B. i just go in to kill and loot. no prep even needed. everything is served on a silver platter now.

[@stalincen7179]

u know what, it will be cool if the game can take ur ip address and time zone, and decide the season base on that. meaning that if u are in the US during december, it will be cold season, but if u got a friend in Ecuador it will be the beginning of rainly season (yea but it sounds cool and may not work well at all)

[@TheMoonman4]

Saying "never" so matter of factly could age this pretty hard. I think the chances are slim, but I feel like there's still potential in a seasons mechanic. It very likely wouldn't resemble how it was in Dos much, but it could still work if done right

[@makmakg242]

Y'know you're still right on not living in Tropical place like the Philippines on summer days when the Government isnt doing any preventive measures about the possible heatstrokes injuries pedestrians may occur. Thank you Ferdinand Marcos Jr.

[@axis8396]

Plesioth hitboxes aren't poorly designed, they're a feature. A season system is tedious to program, and in practice you'd find a way to skip time to whatever benefits you the most making the system an arbitrary thing that you largely ignore the overwhelming majority of the time and then have to do meaningless things to get where you want. It's like cycling advanced quests in 4U, yeah it's a design choice but did it actually make the gameplay better?

[@schwartzprime3045]

me waiting for them to add back the mechanic where last hitting a raptor monster with slicing damage when they are mid air cuts them in half.

[@ricardou.r4222]

a shame, maybe there are some painful things around the seasons, but it could have been of great help to make monster hunter generations ultimate less overwhelming due to the number of misions it has, even like, on winter you can visit pokke, or some interesting ideas about it

[@DontPressPlayPodcast]

The man dropped another bagger.!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@skvltdmedia]

Know what? THIS would've been a fantastic old and forgotten system that gen 5 could've really used to just extend the overall game and break up the typical grind. If Capcom would've done something like, every X hunts the seasons change, it would make things so much more dynamic.

[@yeetoban]

These complexities were quite tedious but I think they were what especially made Monster Hunter unique in comparison to other Action-combat RPG games, like how it was comparable to Dark Souls in game style. It still kind of is, but I always enjoyed Monster Hunter partially because of that lifestyle genre gameplay it has, but as they do QOL changes with each generation, we lose a semblance of that realism.

[@angkunehonghindimakali]

How my brain shortened the whole video: "As if underwater being removed wasn't good enough, there was Seasons as well. Thanks for ruining game immersion for profits, Capcom. 😊" (Still love MH though. Still, hope these stuff go back though. I don't mind being gated, just do it for a good reason. 🧐) P.S. I started with Freedom Unite as well, that's why this video was basically a "WTF!?" moment for me. 😅

[@mannysantos1562]

I think the time and seasonal change in monster strength would be cool but the food effects changing due to the season would be annoying. I also think the idea of certain monsters being more likely to appear when they aren’t the target monster during different times of day and seasons would be really cool. I don’t think they should affect when you can choose certain quests as that would be annoying to deal with. At best I think they could make it so that if you go hunting in the desert during the warm season then you’ll need to bring cool drinks and visa versa for the snowy regions.

[@EtoiledeSaphir]

Great as always Sir !

[@SotiCoto]

I contend that the greatest concept ever done in Monster Hunter is the UNDERWATER COMBAT from Tri / 3U.

[@oldsnaaake]

The thing with the seasons and most other mechanics in DOS is that they're really dang cool on paper but the execution is wack. Like if the answer to when you can go to gather something, hunt something, eat a certain recipe, etc. all being "You gotta look at a guide someone made online", then it's not implemented well. I think a sensible approach to reintroducing the mechanics into Modern MonHun is intertwining it with tracking levels system that World had and thus expanding on it, where by examining objects in the world/tracks left by the monster you would learn about its preferred seasons and additionally the seasonal mechanics of the level you're in, with high levels of research rewarding you with extra drops to make it worthwhile that you're trying to learn about the seasonal differences in a certain environment. I don't think any quests or hunts should be cut off from the player to allow people who just wanna hunt after a long day to still hunt, but a system rewarding people who go out and explore an enviroment and intertwining it with a time/seasonal system that communicates its mechanics in game instead of requiring spreadsheets definitely seems within the realm of possibility for MH6.

[@ZephyrusAsmodeus]

My favorite feature was definitely the weapon styles of Gen Ultimate, they kinda sorta put similar things into Sunbreak, but man The styles we're badass in GU

[@xjindae830]

man that 2nd gen bullfango brings back alot of memories 😂

[@0pine0]

It’s always nice to see fellow Filipinos who play MH (any MH really 😭). I’ve somehow always thought it wasn’t popular here but here I am getting corrected 😂 Also cool video! I didnt get to play the early MH games cause I started with World, but it’s cool to see gameplay of older games and how much has changed in the game mechanics 👍

[@diggysdungeon]

Dos had the most interesting mechanics and probably biggest generational jump of any MH game. There are so many awesome things that game did, but sadly most fans don't even know about it. Now that there are Dos servers I'm hoping to gather my friends and give it a good try.

[@ronbird121]

i just wanna swim

[@unamusedrowlett6303]

It's a cool mechanic but in my opinion, it's very realistic. As said in the video, it's layers upon layers to the point where your playtime is mostly prepping for the next monster. Maybe something more unique might work if they do bring it back such as blocking zones in areas so you're forced to explore and certain monsters being buffed or debuffed depending on the climate.

[@mathieu499]

now i'm dreaming of a mh game where u can travel to different village and they match other countries real time and season

[@mathieu499]

and make it even crazier, if you are in a cold country your village will have different weapon and skill tree, armor resist to cold, and people will have to trade their 'knowledge'' by exchanging there ressources, your stamina will last longer in a freezy area / season, but in the summer u'll have to drink fresh water a lil bit more often than people who spawned on hot region. if u wanna change region, then you will have to travel, and play the travel, like having a jen mohran fight while crossing the desert on a boat this will really take the scale and feeling of a big adventure, discover countries, area, there specificity, recipe, armor skill, weapon element etc~ quest would allow you to track a disaster making monster while he migrates, making you spawn into someone's server, u'll be able to alert them the monster is coming toward them and ask for their help for an urgent quest :o wow

[@justincrawford5992]

I really miss when Monster Hunter games had more to them.

[@vincentdeluca4485]

It could be cool to add as an environmental hazard of sorts rather than a limitation. Similar to how World had you need to drink Hot/Cold Drinks to keep the extreme temps of different areas at bay. Maybe something similar could be applied in MH6, or maybe certain areas or mechanics are only active during specific seasons (Blizzards/Low visibility areas in the winter on snow maps, Lava Geysers or Receded water in the Summer, etc) or have certain monsters be significantly stronger/more dangerous in certain seasons vs others. Like for example fighting a Velkana or Barrioth in the Winter/Cold season would be a far stronger version of the monster than average, Same with a Diablos or Rathalos in the Summer.

[@Crazycoyoteify]

I still want underwater combat to return.

[@claisolais]

I started on Dos, and it was like learning actual hunting knowledge...it was so cool, until I met Plesioth. Still thinks it's the best entry to the seires, just not so...friendly.

[@deaj8450]

It's my favorite as well for those concepts, definitely felt like you were learning the way an actual fantasy world works. Like playing a simulator rpg in a way. But not so friendly? It's downright hostile, it wants the player to fail and learn from it.

[@claisolais]

​@@deaj8450 Hostile indeed. It wants playter to failed and hopefully they learn from it---It barely has any guide whatsoever. Though, they've made many things almost cheap by being "friendly nowadays...I guess they cant away from big bucks. Fun is replicable, but experiences are unique in their own ways. All to make me love my DOS even more. I wish that I can live to see a MH reboot.

[@YudhaLeonhart]

monster hunter definitely change their direction with the game from the old gen.. i play since the first monster hunter game.. and i can tell they learn that most people only care about the hunting aspect of the game.. and minority of people like my self enjoy the game as a whole... and they going in the right direction because capcom have some financial problem.. and monster hunter single handedly carry the company.. so they go for the majority.. i get it.. and still love the game.. but i wish i actually feel being part of the world like i did back in the old gen MH

[@shuraizo2877]

The way it was implemented sounds like amazing for the novelty, but annoying for gameplay, much like Astera in World. However, I do think it would be cool if it was brought back in some way, like powering up the monsters and changing which smaller ones appear in higher quantity

[@fromgames3123]

I wish the future game features various modes of difficulty in the title screen which would allow people of different liking to enjoy the game the way they want, and allowing some of the older features to return. Many games does this, it wouldn't be rare if Capcom did this. Just as an example in Minecraft there are creative, normal and survival modes.

[@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf]

Fuck no, get good

[@zeromailss]

MH2 is the only MH game that I play but didn't finish. Thank you for the great video, it was indeed a brilliant idea on paper and could work in a certain type of game, maybe a more hardcore version of MH outside of the mainline series just like how there is an MH Story cuz this kind of mechanic in MH Rise or World would be too much of a pain as I play MH for the combat while the rest is just bonus I got the game in Japanese and it was real confusing and I was too young at that time then I never come back to it. I do remember it being a step up from the original but then I got my hand on MHFU and I never run out of content before I played tri so I just didn't bother even tho I love MH1 and I beat it using action replay to unlock stuff

[@KOBULT92]

This would definitely run off new players if implemented as is. That said I think a sort of "lite" version of these mechanics would add enjoyment and depth that even noobs could like.

[@ПётрПавловский-щ1х]

Good

[@Balmungofsky]

@@ПётрПавловский-щ1х If it runs off players the series dies.