Making linear glides from drawer slides

woodgears.ca/pantorouter/glide...
Showing all the steps to prepare an over/under full extension drawer slide for use as a linear glide in homemade woodworking machinery

[@morpheusduvall]

Another informative video. It's good to see that there's folks out there still sharing practical and ingenious knowledge like this.

[@MMWA-DAVE]

old photocopier large capacity drawers and finishers are an excellent source of high quality flat sliders with zero play.

[@lordmcted]

I've found that sticking the magnet out of an old hard drive onto the rail keeps all the ball bearings in the holders for me, works pretty well, still fiddly but I've had success with it. Great video as always- I'm new to your stuff, working my way through them. You're a hell of a craftsman, good luck with all your future projects.

[@bradarmstrong1656]

Nice! It's always wonderful to find someone like Matthias who does such creative, thoughtful and well crafted work. Thank You. Subscribed.

[@bricelee2]

i love your videos because you are so well spoken. You never pause to say "uh, um". You are also very good at explaining what you are doing and you also have good lighting and camera angles. Just great all around. You are the smartest person on youtube

[@hammersix3862]

Meet Mr. Wandel's wife, everyone! hehe

[@superspecialty5169]

Alright, I’m not the only one who finds it objectionable in the use of using um & uh!

[@NOLAMarathon2010]

I've said this before, and I don't mind repeating: part of Matthias' artistry is his video production. Because his woodworking skills are so terrific, his video production tends to go unnoticed.

[@terrylovell7340]

Thanks so much for all the great information! I just had your Pal Singh send me the Panto-router and I can't wait to get it up and going! At some point I'd like to see you build a hexagonal cupola for a hexagonal gazebo...focusing on how to cut the "pie" pieces of the "roof of the cupola". It is an interesting compound miter & bevel exercise...which you covered in your miter saw-bowel episode. So AGAIN THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT INFORMATION! I really enjoy the projects!

[@mr1enrollment]

Nicely done and great workmanship on your finished machines.

[@1965macondo]

GOD BLESS YOU MATTHIAS WANDEL, You are so nice and kind, some just people don't deserve your wisdom !!!

[@CS5n531]

This has been a very helpful/cheap solution for a project of mine. Thank you very much, fun and informative!

[@minitos1]

3D Printer?

[@bigtruckbridges]

minitos1 how to fix my redline tool box ;

[@lengthmuldoon]

The Norm Abram of metalwork, excellent craftsmanship.

[@luigiluigi3777]

Sei un grande.. Sempre ottime idee e buoni consigli....

[@ronanthem]

I love this channel! Thanks for sharing your ideas and methods. They are very helpful :)

[@simonhopkins3867]

excellent I can't wait to see what you're making now.

[@Jullebrus]

Nice vice! My father has a similar if not exact like that in the old hobby room :D That brought back good childhood memories taking things apart and putting them together! :D

[@johnm5818]

Well I know this posting is not new but I thought I would put my two cents worth in for future observers. As an old Jeep repairman there are several places that I had to deal with tiny needle bearing that tended to fall everywhere. Use a bit of axle grease OR Vaseline daubed in the slide where each bearing goes. They are so tiny that the thick stuff will not only hold them long enough for assembly but it lubricates them as well.

[@edgarolson6753]

John Maxwell esaAss

[@mitchellquinn]

Surely in a dust laden environment like a woodwork shop thick grease would accumulate wood dust pretty easily? Would a spray silicone lubricant be better in that respect? Clearly not for assembly purposes though!

[@billybobjoe198]

I ain't no jeep mechanic or anything, but I wouldn't be lubricating drive shafts with vaseline. The only place for vaseline on a vehicle is the battery terminals to protect them from corrosion. That was Porsche's spec in the 80's.

[@bombbarders88]

even though i can do any of this stuff ..i still enjoy watching your videos

[@bmb49]

Brilliant ingenuity 👌 thanks for sharing!

[@matthiaswandel]

So far, after 18 months in my slot mortiser, no issues.

[@scarmenl]

Thanks Mat. Nice work and keep up the excellent ideas.

[@matthiaswandel]

Ball bearings are the whole enclosed bearings. Just because most people get it wrong doesn't mean I have to be.

[@meeekstubbular]

Great video, I had some cheap sliders with two sharp edges fitting in two holes and fastened into the centre with only one screw into the unit's side. some fell apart with "B" bearings all over the place....I could not fix them despite several attempt and wrecking the plastic ball cage so was interested in knowing more. I'm surprised to see how many irrelevant comments are posted as well!

[@Clarence11111]

You have such great imagination!

[@itscheese4me]

when did you start doing this kind of stuff, engineering and woodworking. you are such a talented guy, i really enjoy watching your stuff. keep it up!

[@noweare1]

Thank you very informative. I like your style !

[@EntangledQuanta]

Nice work. I did something similar for an xy table a couple of months ago.

[@snoeg]

Wow. I've been thinking about using drawer slides for a project for quite a while now. These tips were great! Thank you for this video!

[@TrentR42]

Nice to see you do some metal work too.

[@GregsGarage]

Fantastic video. I'll be using this on my cnc machine. Thanks.

[@fredlight9963]

I used 2 pairs of drawer slides without modifying them and get to use their full extension. The pairs are arranged so when one is extended the other is completely closed (they are parallel but the screwed in to the base board on opposite sides and in opposite sliding directions). The play on these is in up/down direction and causes sagging when extended, so in this arrangement the opposing slides holds the platform up when the other wants to sag down, effectively cancelling it. This is only suitable for print bed platform y-axis slide though as it needs weight pushing down on it.

[@superspecialty5169]

TY 4 the brainstorming opportunity!

[@jardel_lucca]

Thanks a lot for the subtitles.

[@oldgamers100]

Thanks to you i dont have to make the whooole damn rod with lineal bearing mechanism ,also this comes almost done! just have to put a table with some screws in it and i have a perfectly 180° surface! ty!

[@jasondowdy698]

Nice work!

[@matthiaswandel]

Do try it. I have deliberately aimed the sparks at sawdust to see if I could light it, but no success.

[@Crits-Crafts]

wow, thats amazing. I might make a set of these to upgrade my 3d printer :D

[@aguserawan3008]

Thank you...I like informative.

[@James_Haskin]

Great video man. Keep em coming :D

[@juginstr1019]

Great job!. I think I can do it.Thank you.

[@jeriellsworth]

Excellent. Recycle, reuse and re-purpose.

[@Error081688]

Excellent work

[@matthiaswandel]

More on that in a few weeks...

[@marcosovideo]

great video!

[@Cleam1000]

Thx Matthias! Nice video :D

[@ArtMax63]

Thanks for the useful video! This information really helped me. I'm from Ukraine.

[@WittelMeThis]

You are awesome!

[@martyjames6204]

very thorough thanks

[@ipullstuffapart]

nice wooden slot mortiser! we have a factory build metal one at school, but it is no where as cool as yours!

[@G-Revbw]

Would a rare earth magnet stuck to the ball cage help hold the ball bearings on both sides so you could install all of them at the same time?

[@xxsumz]

Thats awesome.

[@mikedelam]

Very cool. Did you change the audio? How could 60 people possibly dislike this?

[@dieSpinnt]

Are you new to the interwebs? (No offense and I also meant you, 6 years ago, hehehe). I find it strange that no one wrote an angry response to your question. You know, you can ask or say something absolutely neutral ... there are always creeping people out of their holes who find exactly that offensive ... for whatever strange or irrational reasons. And there is the other folk, you know? They simply like don't like anything. Yes, even your existence is too much for them. Also: There is no form you have to fill out WHAT you don't like. So this can be anything. It can even be something positive (as an extreme example, people disliking reports of a tragedy or war. Which doesn't mean that they didn't like the video/report). More: Today (6 years later) the dislike count isn't even displayed anymore without special Extensions. I got 152 dislikes versus 4100 likes displayed. My opinion on this whole point is that if we don't know why (and we cannot know why, because most people do not criticize with a meaningful comment, or dislike just by their feelings ... which may be the opposite the next day!) and who disliked something, we don't KNOW! And if I don't know, then I shut up:) I mean, I really don't care what others think, especially with such vaguely and undefined decisions mostly based on feelings. Oh ... I'm just responding because I had thoughts about that matter in the past, too. Late responses are better than none, or?:) Have a good one, Mike!:) P.S.: That these like or dislike counts say absolutely nothing, or are in big danger to be influenced by the "herd instinct" (I think your question is related to exactly that), which makes them absolutely useless in the matter of a qualitative evaluation shows a simple example: Matthias drives a screw slightly not vertical into the wood. Someone may dislike the video because of that. Because of 5 seconds of a 621 seconds long video. Or just because he is in a bad mood today and by accident something in the video triggers that feeling again. One may like the video because he likes the person presenting it. Or the topic, but doesn't even watch the video or can evaluate or understand the content. Therefore such numbers are what they are: Fantasy and Garbage!:) I think they are even a bad thing, because they influence you to prefer a side. Without any critical thinking or using your own imagination or brain. Well, that is about media-competence these days. Another sad topic. No, I am not sad, hehehehe:)

[@superspecialty5169]

I would use a spot weld remover, a tiny hole saw with a center finder.

[@pancary1]

Place the sliders at 45 degrees to reduce the gap

[@xlucioflavio]

I built my first CNC with this "linear guides" =)

[@cffellows]

Another nice video. Mind sharing what kind of machine this will be?

[@hazelwoods2k4]

Have you tried putting the rails end to end to create a longer slide? If so, was there any issue when the ball cage transferred from 1 rail to the other?

[@tommyp110]

Did you ever get a answer to this question? i to would like to put the rails together to make a long slide rail for a project of mine

[@PowerScissor]

@@tommyp110 I've done it before with no issues. But every drawer slide is a little bit different. I cut each end perfectly square with a chop-saw and cut-off wheel, then layed them into a corresponding recess I cut with my router to keep them perfectly aligned. About 7 feet long, still works to this day.

[@GarageWoodworks]

Nice tutorial. You would think that with all the jigs woodworkers make that 'someone' would clue in and sell a cheap glide for these applications that wouldn't require modifications. Rockler are you listening? :^)

[@bloomdds]

You are asking Rockler for something "cheap"? IMHO, their products are very good, but too often feel overpriced. I wouldn't think Rockler would sell a glide for this at a price that feels good. When I bite the bullet and buy a Rockler item, you can bet it is at a sale price...and even then it feels like they only subtracted the "over" part of the overpriced item.

[@dlapp14]

@NOLAMarathon2010 I love his videos. He assumes your intelligent so he doesnt waste your time with pointless crap. He gets straight to the point and its rare on youtube.

[@johnymerida2110]

matthias thanks, good idea..........

[@MrBobWareham]

To put your ball bearing on each side just grease the holders first and they will stay in position when you put it together!!

[@gaius100bc]

fantastic

[@manuellando2060]

Very Nice..

[@deleetmeeh]

I'd like to know what software he uses to to clip his videos together? Also he could really use his own camera crew. Better yet he could have his own show on GTV easily.

[@TuanNguyen-ul8gb]

thanks Matthias.Wandel

[@metamech7383]

How does dust play in those tracks? Have you had any problems with it?

[@rakeyohn222]

Impressive.

[@GregoryFeeney]

Matthias, one question, is it possible for you to temporarily put a gauge against the side of the unit and show just how much sideways movement that there is, it would be good to see just how much "play" there would be when the whole piece is assembled...

[@matthiaswandel]

Gregory Feeney I tighten the tracks until all play is gone.

[@tennist0]

funny, I just used draw slides for a catapult I'm making for Physics class. the draw sliders are my launching mechanism, they'll be pushing the arm up, probably going to power them using bungie cords but not sure yet...

[@juandejesuscruzbeltra9435]

what a good video

[@vantrongkiet]

smart works

[@matthiaswandel]

KZbin comments are not a great source of insight!

[@kevinwood9740]

No need to use grinder, just bend little tabs flat.

[@heckyes]

Awesome. I subbed.

[@ramumidatana979]

nice trick ...

[@pancary1]

Hi, the guys of cnc machine made this puting slides on 45o. angle to anti lash..

[@koza3200]

I used these in my projects

[@sknwong45]

what brand of thickness planer do you use in your shop?

[@rich1051414]

How durable are those slides? Wouldn't a proper linear bearing on a rod be more durable? Or are you favoring low profile over durability?

[@matthiaswandel]

Haven't run into any issues. And linear bearings are more expensive and take up a lot more space.

[@brianmi40]

3:53, clearly no one has more balls than Matthias...

[@666hobart]

it's very important to make sure they're clean.

[@user-dt9fo9cy8b]

XD

[@BreakDown1996]

I know next to nothing about DIY but I bought some ball bearing drawer slides for a project of mine but I need to know, how do I separate the slides into the two separate pieces so I can attach one end to the drawer and the other to the main box WITHOUT sawing the end off?

[@DucaR748]

:) complimenti!!! sei un grande. mi sono guardato tutti i tuoi video anche se sono ITALIANO e non sò bene l'INGLESE

[@deweys]

I imagine these don't play well with dust. Any experience with long term use of these slides?

[@Aaron27430]

I actually laughed at that, good one!

[@edhondo4447]

good video

[@wheelsonwind]

@Matthiaswandel Oh the suspense!

[@2030aad]

Hi,how can I make a long,simple and heavy duty rail for CNC for example or any other uses.

[@noraajagger4239]

4:57

[@patricklickel]

Very vert idea

[@Snigglesnock]

title rhymes... youre a genius

[@DamienPollet]

@Matthiaswandel from the URL "pantorouter", I'd guess something using a pantograph? But I admit I fail to see how, if the router glides in only one direction…

[@SwankeyMonkey]

Searching for what feels like hours on how to "release drawer slides" like mine. Find this video where Matthias uses an angle-grinder to just cut off the ends to release. :-\

[@deezynar]

@NatureNTech I had a teacher who pronounced 'undo' as 'ondo'. I never did figure that out.

[@dv8roro152]

Dude, If you wee cutting that metal bar (1:42-1:49) in ur woodworking shop, isn't that dangerous with all the sawdust, which the sparks could light and cause a fire? Also you inspire many people to get creative! Keep up the Good Videos!! :D

[@mitch2883]

Dark Slayer To cause a dust explosion or deflagration, there is would need to be years worth of dust floating the air and covering surfaces. He runs dust collection, so there is no chance of this happening. This is also a more dangerous event with aluminum dust rather than wood.

[@darcykelly7515]

Ask any hospital and they will tell you the most dangerous thing you can do is be on or near a road!

[@superspecialty5169]

There are drawer slides that have very minimal free-play? I have them.

[@mastergold4900]

*I often watch the master set of telescopic rails. But these guides clogged with dust. And then it does not work. What do you think about this topic?*

[@matthiaswandel]

Haven't had any problems with mine yet

[@user-ec1lc7qr3i]

😍

[@telosfd]

How can i make an mooving router fence?

[@chefslot]

Do you find that the best hand motion when cleaning your balls? ^^

[@DustyFixes]

The videos you're doing these days are great, but I miss these older videos where you're inventing wood working machines, fixtures and jigs. Maybe there's nothing left to invent? Something tells me you still have a few ideas to work on.

[@mailloux13]

4:57 ... That's what she said!!