Malnourished Baby Discovered | Law & Order

When a bloody baby basket is discovered in an abandoned apartment, the team race against time to locate the missing baby. They soon discover that neither the mother or father know of his whereabouts...
Season 10, Episode 12 'Mothers Milk': Jack asks Abbie to try a case involving a young mother accused of starving her baby to death.
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[@Zednoght]

I love that little detail how this guy litters in front of 2 cops, puts it right back in his pocket. It's small but speaks loud to the context

[@Smooshes786]

I worked in Niagara Falls for a while, I can’t tell you how many people I returned their “lost” item to because the trash cans at every light pole were apparently invisible.

[@Ravigyne]

I figured that it was a setup to a surprise arrest and interrogation based on his attitude.

[@SoMuchRandom101]

​@@Smooshes786qq

[@wolfwalkerz6978]

I literally can't stand seeing people littering in cities or on the side of the road.

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

"You mean you were too busy to feed your own child." Objection! Argumentative!

[@gorgeousfreeman1318]

Her entire examination was argumentative, she was just bullying a grieving father who was likely doing everything under duress and clearly not in the rest state of mind. Not to mention he wasn't the fucking defendant, he was a witness!

[@mrroboshadow]

@@gorgeousfreeman1318 and then she objects when the prosecutor uses the same tactic on the mother

[@princememphis7726]

so many objections there. cant believe the state didn't speak up

[@ACAB.forcutie]

He's as guilty as her

[@heyysimone]

​@@gorgeousfreeman1318she never wanted the baby. He made her have it. Whatd he think, shed 'snap out of it' and suddenly want the kid? He didnt take care of the baby he made her have. Yes, she is guilty for not taking care of the baby but so is he. She at least might have underlying mental problems if she were checked out (yes i know this is a show but this stuff happens in real life)

[@irawilliams343]

All children deserve to be loved and raised in a loving home, but not every adult out there is qualified to be a parent.

[@seanmager1168]

agreed. But still, the choices amy and her boyfriend, who are BOTH adults now, Were PLAIN STUPID. they NEVE Fed their baby formula WHICH they DID have and they NEVER Took their baby to ANY Other kinda Medical help Based stuff. So its not that they Just were not qualified, They were ALSO REALLY STUPID. or maybe they were selfish and did not care. I Cant say for sure. ALL I can say is they DID deserve to be punished. As Breast-Feeding, or Formula from Bottles given to them by the hospital, as they said the hospital Gave them formula, Its STILL the same and the baby would have been Fed and Would not have starved.

[@irawilliams343]

@@seanmager1168 Amy and her husband were total morons. The judge even said that she was indifferent to her son's situation.

[@susivarga7303]

Copy - paste huh.

[@kenazfehu7176]

But sure, let’s force all pregnant women to give birth.

[@sapphirewingthefurrycritic985]

Yeah. I can think of a few people who deserve to be parents and others who should have never had kids.

[@mikebasil4832]

The Law & Order shows are the bravest shows on television for never shying away from the most powerfully delicate subject matter.

[@adrianamaringrez9461]

If I remember right, they are based on real crime stories that happened.

[@mikebasil4832]

@@adrianamaringrez9461 They are certainly based on what we hear from the headlines.

[@blondeclb]

Ripped from the headlines. They just started a toronto svu spin off. I hope it does the series justice.

[@mikebasil4832]

@@blondeclb From what I’ve seen of it so far, it does.

[@Iustinfm]

They are quite good, but also have to watch them understanding the bias. If you've never seen the clip, I recommend last week tonight's john oliver video talking about the series, you can find it on YT.

[@foolslayer9416]

They should charged for both manslaughter, child abuse, and child neglect.

[@janelleedwards3358]

"I didn't know." Pathetic excuse. She is just as culpable for the baby's death as her significant other was. They both chose not to take care of a living, breathing human being. Shame on them.

[@PandoraBear357]

I always hate it when one parent gets off Scott free just because the other one was worse. Just because one parent was worse than the other, doesn't mean they weren't both bad parents. Babies don't just starve in a day. There's no way that baby didn't get visibly worse over time.

[@Angela-fp6ch]

Both parents should be charged.

[@Jeni-le6rc]

Why they didn't question the nurse i don't understand 💀 if that baby was clearly in troubled so why not point out and gave him some treatment wtf

[@kerriann04]

My first baby wouldn't nurse. After a couple days of trying, we went to formula. She finally ate really well and started getting stronger and less lethargic. It hurt at the time that I couldn't nurse her, but she ended up healthy. My subsequent kids nursed just fine. Breastfeed if you can, but don't feel guilty if you can't.

[@ilive4anime.]

Fed is best

[@Lizzie-h3j]

Perfectly put. A fed baby is a happy baby and if that breat great if its formula great. I had to mix feed my son because I could not produce enough milk.

[@torilove4868]

I don't know if post partum depression was known at that time, but it sounds like that. A lot of mothers feel like they're in a fog after giving birth and she wasn't getting any help even from the father.

[@Hades_88]

This! ^ Not only could she have been suffering from postpartum, she could have been dealing with trauma from the birth, complete isolation, lack of sleep because she had an unsupportive husband, she had a baby crying all the time, along self-doubt and guilt over her inability to get the baby to feed/latch correctly, and she was not getting appropriate support from health professionals. It’s not easy for every mother. Some babies find it difficult to latch - I know as my daughter struggled and had to have a ‘snipped tongue’ procedure at the age of 3 weeks. What really let this baby and the mother down was that a health professional or a doctor wasn’t able to intervene to show her how to feed correctly, under direct tuition, or to make the call that the baby wasn’t breastfeeding and needed formula, which would once again be fed under supervision.

[@alexandramoyer8785]

Still no excuse for what she did. Y’all always use that as excuse

[@Sniperboy5551]

It was known at the time. Have you ever read “The Yellow Wallpaper” by Charlotte Perkins Gilman? It’s from 1892 and discussed it. There are other accounts of PPD from long before that. I’d say everyone in the psych field was well-aware by the time, but the Andrea Yates case in 1993 made the general public familiar with it. That’s probably why she only got manslaughter in the second degree and 3 years in this episode. Mitigating factors, she still needs to be held accountable for her gross negligence.

[@Book_Dragon2562]

I'm sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree. This doesn't sound like a case of PPD or even depression. This was just immaturity and neglect.

[@torilove4868]

@@Book_Dragon2562You should really look into what PPD looks like. It can appear like immaturity and neglect if you think you're better then other people, respectfully.

[@ZeeBee320]

"To answer your question, too many." "It's my first" "That's too many" That was a heavy coversation.

[@Aggression-hc3yp]

Powerful conversation.

[@ytafan4068]

Neither of them were mentally or emotionally ready for parenthood. And as I recall, that Strickland woman wasn't really helping. She was more interested in pursuing her own agenda than helping the mother and the baby. The baby was the first priority. If they couldn't care for the baby, then maybe they could have put the baby up for adoption.

[@angelalycos2.076]

For any new mamas out there, that might be watching this, if you're here and you feel as scared as the this, I'm going to tell you right now, fed is best. There are going to be people out there that think they know better, but they are not your child's mother you are, and you get the final say. Fed is best, even if not from the breast. And if your pediatrician, your mother, your husband, gives you hell for making sure your baby is fed, you give them hell right back.

[@pisces2569]

This woman was a mama. She didn’t know best

[@angelalycos2.076]

@@pisces2569 It's sad, but from what we can see there were plenty of people around who just didn't help. Like the husband.

[@tisvana18]

I’ve seen people who literally will shout moms down for not going to a milk bank, fed is best. My daughter was on formula, same as me. Breast milk would have been better, but alive is better than starved (my milk came in 3 weeks after daughter was born. She would have starved to death).

[@susivarga7303]

My daughter was on formula from birth due to medical complications after her birth. She is 8 and thriving. ​@@tisvana18

[@seanmager1168]

@@pisces2569 Yeah. she did not know "BEST" Because that girl, Amy, she was a FOOLISH IDIOT.

[@conallen1]

This gives me vibes of the crystal candelario case, the woman abandoned her 16 month old baby alone for 3 weeks while she went traveling to Puerto Rico and Michigan with her boyfriend. That case makes me so mad as well as horrified for what sweet angel went through; her daughter's name was Jailyn.

[@jazzycat8917]

I mean this is a case of a very young mother in extreme post partum depression with a useless hands off partner and no access to proper doctors to intervene both for the baby and herself. Crystal Candelario is just a sociopath who knew that kid would die but went on vacation anyway.

[@2mw_ke]

Not the same.

[@xniks101x]

You’re right. The baby not only died, she suffered. The pathologist estimated she died after day 7. The crystal candelario case disturbs me so much because of that. Plenty of mothers kill their kids, most don’t let them suffer eating their own feces for 7 days :c

[@ewast1926]

Cristel Candelario is the devil.

[@salmaabdullahgb]

Completely different

[@ellenrittgers990]

I can’t be the only one who misses the hell out of Jerry Orbach! 🥲💕

[@nyarden301]

I mean…I’m sure his family does

[@darthhelmut4417]

Nope yer not the only one

[@lilitharam44]

I miss him! I had his autographed photo but my ex husband stole it, even though it was made out to me.

[@demonica4012]

Oh my gosh how I miss him!

[@Silencer796]

@@lilitharam44damn!

[@sarahjo92]

The classic case of daddy wants baby but won't lift a finger to help. My husband was working during the day and we'd switch feedings during the night, plus he'd even take the first feeding of the morning so i could sleep because it was during Covid and I was going through a time of PPD while also having to homeschool our 1st grader. If you aren't willing to help mom with the baby, you shouldn't force her to have one!

[@dirtyfox2289]

whats PPD?

[@luas551]

The classic case where tryes to shift the blame solely on the father, this is based on New York, one of the most liberal states, if she doesn’t wanted to have the baby she could have left him, giving him for adoption, but no, she took the easiest or cruelest choice, to leave him starve to death, and he, that was supposed to protect his baby, he chose to ignore all the signals because it was easier. These two are cruel and mean to the bone

[@sarahjo92]

@@dirtyfox2289 postpartum depression

[@booklover5238]

Post-partum depression

[@dostagirl9551]

The guy was wrong for insisting. The girl was wrong for caving. The guy was wrong for doing nothing to help. The girl was wrong for not getting any help. Both killed that child. Both had options. That baby had NONE.

[@jkrfan7]

side note - can we agree that jerry and jesse had really great chemistry together

[@julianyc422]

The Man is just as responsible for the Baby. Never even saw his baby.

[@darkmask5933]

Dude groomed a 17-year-old girl and convinced her to run away from her parents to be his little tradwife, then was shocked when a teenager doesn't know the first thing about taking care of a baby, and won't lift a finger to help because kids are "women's work".

[@seanmager1168]

YEP. and the BOTH of them are responsible for the baby's death cause they are both Irresponsible immature lazy idiots. their baby was Sick and needed help and they COMPLETLY Ignored it. Then Just Went and buried in somewhere and thought they could get away with it.

[@dustinsova4937]

I've no words to describe this.

[@Gancanna]

Breast may be 'best,' but she should have taken the hint that her child needed more to eat when she was given the formula as supplementary measure. Many new mothers have difficulty producing milk. It's not an uncommon condition. The father/husband not calling the police, inexcusable at best. I feel sorry for the grandparents. Had they known help was needed, they might have stepped up. They didn't even get that option.

[@MikaIsDead]

This bit. They weren't sure whether the formula would hurt him, so they chose not to feed him at all, which they had to know would hurt him for sure. And she said she struggled to get information, but she could've gone to a library, asked her mother, walked outside and asked a random lady with children... most people would've told her to give the baby the formula. The whole argument is BS.

[@DinoJake]

Stories like these make me think that you need some kind of license to become a parent.

[@elliephantom]

or at the bare minimum, a mental evaluation every week leading up to and after the birth. there should be an age limit in which a kid can be sent home with the parent (an age limit for the parent). Brain maturity (when it officially stops growing) is at 25. anyone under is not fully mature mentally, and mental maturity (when your mentality is officially done growing up) is about 32. the gap in between is pretty much a perfect time to start CONSIDERING a family. before 25? no. and before people start coming for me in reply; my kids were born when I was 19 and 21. I was DEFINITELY not mature enough to raise kids, but I was also in a relationship with someone less mature than I was and he was older. I gave my kids up when I knew I couldn't do it. I have cousins, neices, and nephews all born to my family in those younger years, and they weren't ready either. no one I know who had kiss before their late 20s has ever been fully capable of handling parenthood the way they should. there is study after study that proves that the younger the parent is, the more likely the child will be abused, and that's not even factoring in the possibility of the parent likely becoming dependent on drugs or alcohol before 21 if they were a teen parent, which can cause even more abuse the the child. as for "breast is best," and doctor, nurse, or nutritionist that claims this, deserves to be stripped of their practice and credentials. FED is best, as evident by this fictional case that happens all too often. I also agree that any "father" who insists on having a child by refusing to allow abortion or adoption should be forced to care for that child as he is forcing the mother to do. the girl likely had PPD (post partum depression), and while it is no excuse for letting the child starve to death, it could have been avoided if the "father" had stepped up as a dad and took care of his kid. he could have 5150'd her for treatment, taken the child to the doctor, and called his parents if he needed help while she was receiving much needed treatment.

[@Melanesian-dude]

all children deserve parents but not all parents deserve children

[@heatchills4093]

That's an awful thing to wish on a child.

[@Christopher23451]

That cross examination of the husband was brutal.

[@katherineheasley6196]

Prosecutor's sitting there like, "I know you're on the other team, but you ain't wrong!"

[@o.m9514]

It was the complete truth. He caused all of this by pushing her to have a chid that she didn't want and leaving her with ALL the stressful responsibilities. And then abusing that woman and acting as if he was not involved!

[@qrispy1863]

@@o.m9514 :| she still had a choice but in this day and age women do no wrong apparently

[@silentgamer88]

@@qrispy1863 Back then, yes, she would be at fault. But not anymore today as America has overturned Roe V Wade. There is no longer the option to legally abort the baby if the woman didn't want it and if they did it and were caught, they'd go to jail. And don't go giving those "she could've given it up at the hospital" excuses. Even though he never took care of it, the husband still wanted the baby. She would've still be blamed either way.

[@qrispy1863]

@@silentgamer88 given it to the hospital is no excuse but one of many options so saying that is just trying to create a straw man fallacy :|

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

Children having children.

[@Aggression-hc3yp]

Unless you’re in your twenties, you’re not ready to even start having a family!

[@alexandramoyer8785]

@@Aggression-hc3ypagree

[@cosmictraveler1146]

@@Aggression-hc3yp even late or early 30s would be better since you’d be established money and house wise, most of the time anyway these days it’s hard.

[@babybluehashyo]

Then be pro choice

[@marsb7]

@@Aggression-hc3ypI’m turning 30 this year and my husband and I both had a conversation about the fact that neither of us feel a child would benefit from being born from us. So we’re not having kids. It sucks, but I’d rather miss out than neglect a whole human because I’m not ready.

[@Freddie-x4s]

Both the parents are guilty of neglect but the father did work but a child comes first

[@thewhoabeatriz]

I know the “I didn’t know” reasoning is common… but logically… a lactation expert is saying “breast milk over formula” but her hospital gave her formula… clearly both can be right? It’s not like she got the formula from a random on the street.. a hospital wouldn’t give new mothers bad things for babies. But I can see how hormones, new baby, anxiety, tired feelings can blur logical thought

[@Sniperboy5551]

Breast is best.

[@o.m9514]

It's true that the father could've done something. He pushed her to have that child and left her with it. If person that is depressed can't even take care of themselves, how on earth can a woman that has had her freedom robbed from her by a vile man and a child meant to be able to take care of a child? I assume that she is not taking care of herself either. She seems to be relying on people and is simply mentally removed from the situation. Having a child is not something simple.

[@koppsr]

Watching this episode in the light of the tragedy of the two year old girl whose mother just left her in the play pen with some food to go on a ten day vacation....it hit's way WAY harder...

[@gtw4546]

That little girl was only 16 months old - not even 1-1/2 - left with a few baby bottles of formula. It’s horrifying to imagine what that poor little girl endured before she died.

[@iamsherlocked345]

@@gtw4546that poor child suffered so much 🙁

[@an1yah]

lets not compare tragedies. these babies are DEAD, and here you are comparing how they died smh

[@gtw4546]

@@an1yah No one is comparing the tragedies - one simply reminds of the other.

[@voidcadet]

I'm guessing they uploaded this episode because of the recent Candelario verdict for starving her 16-month-old to death. For the show's conclusion: SPOILER The prosecution argues that the law that protects a woman's right to end a pregnancy also requires that they accept responsibility if they choose to have the baby. The mother is given 2nd degree manslaughter. Downside, the parents will serve a max of 3 years (together, not each).

[@jazzy-qn8ms]

Only 3 years for starving her baby to death?! That sentence sounds like a crime itself 😠

[@TheExtremeIRON]

Thankfully Candelario received a much more appropriate sentence than the parents in the show

[@bananacathammock]

the parents? what about the husband/father of the baby?

[@dietotaku]

@@bananacathammock that's who they mean by "the parents," the mother and father of the dead baby

[@bananacathammock]

@@dietotaku oh so the father also charged with 2nd degree?

[@passionproject568]

Dang, this episode reminds me of that woman who left her toddler to die for 10 days. She went on vacation with her boyfriend and still plead not guilty... how they describe the amount of pain that child went through, eating her own poop to fight hunger, was and still is haunting. I wish this kind of thing doesn't happen in real life 😕 For those who don't know what case I'm talking about, she went to prison for life with no chance of parole...

[@iamsherlocked345]

That was beyond horrible 🙁

[@annmariestinson1232]

Good.

[@passionproject568]

@iamsherlocked345 Yeah it was cruel. She came back to take another flight to go to another destination with her boyfriend so she could have gone home to check up on the baby but instead she just didn't do that and went.

[@georgelane6350]

Reason number 1,732 to make healthcare free of charge.

[@spazzypengin]

Making things "free" does not magically solve all problems, comrade. Still needs to be funded. Just ask Canada where they expand killable illnesses to cut costs. But have fun, comrade cuckman.

[@jlkkauffman7942]

What does free healthcare have to do with this. They had everything they needed.

[@spazzypengin]

"free" someone doesn't understand how economics works. Entitled smooth brain.

[@georgelane6350]

@@spazzypengin the most successful economies in the world all have healthcare that is free of charge. Only second tier economies like the USA charge for healthcare

[@PeachWookiee]

@spazzypengin: So you’d rather watch people die than have our taxes pay for something worthwhile? Let me guess… you’re a pro-birther…

[@dotcorbeil6266]

I knew a mom who was more concerned about herself than her children. The children she had mysteriously disappeared until the police searched her home. The discovery hit the news. I went to school with her. Afterward, they tore it down too disturbed to try and sell it. I fell asleep most nights rocking my son to sleep in a rocking chair. I lost weight trying to get him to eat, spent nights in the ER because he kept getting sick and the doctors couldn't give me a reason. Spent hours next to his crib listening to a combination of crying, tantrums, and his pucking trying to give him meds the doctors prescribed. Their are people who outright ignore their young and then they're others who suffer for their young. This woman is fictional, but her character is half of america. And not the good half.

[@reaperbrothers5487]

The one thing that heartbreak 💔 me the most is when baby’s or young kids die in movies or tv shows because they had a whole future ahead of them and even real life

[@MarvelFan1995]

IKR. What’s up that?

[@Aggression-hc3yp]

It’s horrible when their deaths are committed deliberately by someone.

[@uptonogood1893]

The logic is crazy. "We can't feed the child because we couldn't breast feed."

[@Deborahtunes]

How stupid can someone be? I've seen 14 year olds know better. I tried to breastfeed my baby too that first night home from the hospital. He wouldn't nurse, so we went to 711 and bought baby formula at 3:00 in the morning. It's common sense. Edit: Off topic, the boyfriend looks like he fell face first into a tackle box...

[@WarGrowlmon18]

I'm pretty sure Mommy Dearest was just a monster

[@hellogoodbyeandallinbetween]

Some people are easily influenced. It sounds like that nurse had a part to play in this too

[@Deborahtunes]

@@hellogoodbyeandallinbetween ~ I don't care how much someone pushes, if my baby is hungry, and breastfeeding isn't working, then formula it is. As I stated before, it's common sense. You don't allow your baby to starve. I think it's as Abby Carmichael said, she didn't really want the child in the first place, and just didn't care enough. No loving, compassionate mother would turn up the volume to drown out a staving baby's cries...

[@hellogoodbyeandallinbetween]

@@Deborahtunes do you not think it's society's issue that allows a mother with no maternal instincts to give birth to and raise a child?

[@nikkiberns1365]

@@hellogoodbyeandallinbetweenoftentimes the lack of maternal instinct isn’t known until after birth. Plenty of women who claimed not to have the instinct immediately proved otherwise. My sister swore she’d never have kids, she wasn’t cut out to be a mother, etc. she’s now an incredible mother of 4. it’s just not something that can be diagnosed or predicted.

[@emerybayblues]

That dry eye cry.

[@sapphirewingthefurrycritic985]

I'm starting to think that there should be a licensing process to become a parent.

[@KarenLee-bs5ms]

Some people do not deserve children

[@heyysimone]

See, when you force a woman to have a child she doesnt want this can happen. And for a man to force her to have that child and then abandon it thinking 'shell step up', it doesnt work like that.

[@m.j.vazquez4720]

pretty sure in the majorty of cases this doesnt happen

[@12thDecember]

She's crying for herself, not the baby. "I swear, I didn't know." Yeah, right. She either belongs in prison or a mental institution.

[@claytonveno3710]

Or Death Penalty!

[@yucol5661]

@@claytonveno3710two wrongs don’t make a right. Even if the person being wronged is extremely evil or extremely dumb

[@seanmager1168]

@@yucol5661 good point. As i REALLY CANT Say for sure what amy and her boyfriend are. Either they were REALLY stupid and Brain-Dead-Dumb, or Just did not care and Were Ignorant to their Child's plea's and those tears are JUST for show and their just trying to get away with it. But either way, amy had the baby at 17, Now she is 18. And your a adult when your 18 and/or 19. And Like they said, Amy and her boyfriend, they HAD formula and bottles, But did NOT use them. So yeah. Id say they are BOTH REALLY MESSED UP. But cant tell if their evil, or just PLAIN DUMB.

[@claytonveno3710]

@@yucol5661 Are you kidding me? This isn't about right or wrong a child is dead and the punishment as far as I am concerned should be severe!

[@Aggression-hc3yp]

This episode and Taboo from SVU are the best episodes that deal with situations like this.

[@1nataloche]

Where did the blood in the apartment come from?

[@yucol5661]

From the show’s trasncript, the husband slapped her hard after finding out the baby was dead, so that explains blood from the crib to the bathroom. And she punched the mirror there too. So could be that. I didn’t watch the episode.

[@1nataloche]

@@yucol5661 Thank you very much!

[@luvlylady55]

Wow.. that idiot father made it seem like Amy was supposed to do all the work in raising the baby.. it takes two to make a baby...it should take two to raise it.. both are at fault.. and both should be punished..

[@m.j.vazquez4720]

pretty sure the one who turned up the tv when it was crying was at fault

[@gossipandgrigio7200]

I was a formula baby. There is nothing wrong with formula!

[@Sniperboy5551]

Every study comparing the two find that breastfeeding provides the best results. Formula isn’t a bad thing if that’s the only option, but if the mother is just too lazy to breastfeed, that’s being a bad mother.

[@gossipandgrigio7200]

@@Sniperboy5551 boy stay in your lane! No one cares what you think

[@Sniperboy5551]

@gossipandgrigio7200 It’s not just what I think, it’s data that *literally* every study has found. I’m not saying formula is bad, I’m saying breast milk is better by every single metric. Immune health, nutritional value, etc. Higher IQ, better problem solving and math skills, lower rates of asthma, among other things. Breast is best, but formula is fine. If you care about children, you would care about what I (and every single scientific study) says. I’m not making it up, that’s what our current scientific studies prove. I’m just relaying facts.

[@susivarga7303]

My daughter was on formula from birth due to medical complications. She is 8 and thriving, her genetics beat the formula vs breast milk argument. She excels at school, mostly maths and languages, most likely because we love and care for her and support her. She is rarely sick. She is not in those famous stats apparently. Myself, a breast fed baby, have been living with a chronic disease since I was 5. My body did not read those famous stats either and screwed me over 😂

[@SaraNightfire1]

A woman often cannot produce enough breastmilk to keep the baby at a healthy weight and growth. Formula, for better or worse, helps with that gap massively.

[@davidnewland2556]

my wife and I lived in a duplex with a woman like this she yelled at her baby constantly, when it cried she cranked the stereo up" funky town, we grew to hate that song, I often wonder how that poor child turned out it would be in in the forties now at night she yelled at her husband one incidentI remember why "don't you go f your mother, non stop that night, those kids needed help.

[@Erin-ce5gs]

Did you ever call the police or CPS?

[@davidnewland2556]

no we were young and had no idea what we could do this was 1980, the woman wa constantly yelling at her husband, assuming they were married, my wif was pregnant about seven months along, it had been difficult for us to find a place to rent

[@blueroses4112]

The whole "don't want people to think I'm a bad mom for not breastfeeding" argument falls apart pretty quickly when your (in)actions result in the death of your child, thus making you the WORST MOM. (P.S. Fed is best!!!)

[@dustinbird9170]

breast is best when possible, formula is fine when it isn't

[@amielawson8344]

Breast is best, fed is necessary.

[@Rosawyn]

@@dustinbird9170 Exactly. Parents usually don't feed their children the very best possible food. Most of us give our kids chicken nuggets, fries, and a juice box and don't feel particularly guilty about that. We know that's not "the best," but the kid is fine. It's not all that different for newborns; some of us try very hard to give our babies the best, but when that doesn't work out we still feed our kids. What these parents did was just not feed their child at all.

[@rosebud040686]

@@dustinbird9170thanks for your opinion 🙄

[@dustinbird9170]

@@rosebud040686 not an opinion. Formula isn't equal to milk. Saying otherwise is cope. Doesn't mean it's bad to use formula when you don't have a choice

[@slydoll7877]

This is why in the UK we have Health Visitors who call in on new Mothers weekly and more if there are issues.

[@Ocelot1962]

This is why I moved to the UK and appreciate the NHS that has programs like Health Visitors and all the other benefits. This is why the UK is a civilised country and the US is not.

[@adaezez8378]

@@Ocelot1962unfortunately the conservatives are doing their absolute best to destroy all of that.

[@gimzod76]

​@@adaezez8378Don't worry labour now in power to do even worse

[@adaezez8378]

@@gimzod76 sure jan.

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

For me was strong and both deserved to be punished

[@UeJPTv]

She gets 3years!? That’s a stupid episode they deserve life in prison that would be a happy ending

[@WarGrowlmon18]

"He said we didn't have money for lawyers." Seems she's doing just fine!!!

[@princecharon]

Presumably, she got in the headlines, and someone wanting to make a name for herself did it pro bono (it's been long enough since I saw the full episode that the real reason might be something totally other, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't the one paying for her lawyer).

[@dietotaku]

y'all know you have a constitutional right to a public defender if you're charged with a crime, right? "you have the right to an attorney. if you can't afford one, you will be appointed one by the court."

[@princecharon]

@@dietotaku I'm not sure that the (rather young) character realized that, but it could also be that he didn't have a high opinion of the competence of public defenders (and if you were replying to me, I'm assuming that the defence attorney in the video was not a public defender).

[@Sniperboy5551]

@dietotaku People need to realize that they have every right to stop talking to law enforcement once you identify yourself. It’s crazy just how many people have heard it on TV and mindlessly agree to answer questions. Always ask for an attorney, never incriminate yourself.

[@gorgeousfreeman1318]

The judge overrules an objection, likely badgering the witness at 9:25, when she is openly insulting a witness. I get it's a TV show, but I want SOME realism in my trials; that attorney would totally get disbarred for pulling a stunt like that. You can't just call the witness names.

[@itssione1020]

What season is this?

[@Mommaof3demonz]

What episode and season

[@RamdomView]

Check the description.

[@fbbWaddell]

This is what happens when people are not competent to be parents. The baby dies. Report child abuse and neglect.

[@marybell2897]

Why is the judges chair empty when the father is testifying?

[@delmicortave]

What happens at the end?

[@justcallmejessz3712]

Lots of people failed thst poor baby. Ugh

[@orsolyaritter7292]

There is no excuse for this. Both parents should be in prison for life.

[@Reenzy1991]

So many in the comments stating how this is horrible behaviour and things like this in real life should be pointed out and policed but the world have children staving from human sanctions and blocks but not everyone commenting is out there supporting the stopping of such activities with what littlw people power they have

[@karanhdream]

Parenting needs a balance between being able to seek/accept advice or help AND critical thinking. This young mother as depicted here is an example of someone lacking the latter...

[@BeegableRock]

5:20 MIke survived the Blair Witch!

[@catmaxwell6691]

heheh

[@sweetpotato8201]

does anyone know, what episode is this?

[@Sadgirl0]

Season 10 episode 12

[@catherineriche7847]

How on earth did new mothers handle breast feeding before the existence of lactation counselors? Good Lord!

[@sapphireseptember]

Community. Mother's would teach their daughters, aunts their nieces, etc. Also it wasn't as hidden as it is today. All that nonsense about covers or doing it in toilets wasn't around. Women still struggled but there were wet nurses if things got dire, or goat's milk.

[@Manuel-ew3dp]

they didn't, infant mortality was very high, and still is very high in many parts of the world. If you didnt make enough milk, the baby died

[@thatdellgirl14]

Wet nurses. Women who sold their milk

[@SjofnBM1989]

Look up the infant mortality rate. They didn't.

[@yucol5661]

They didn’t always tough. You think caveman, medieval, or 1900s mothers didn’t accidentally kill their kids? Or that women only rely on external help in the modern era? Medical educational campaigns are pushed all over the world and are very valuable for a reason. We DONT have an inbuilt instinct telling us how not to starve babies. God didn’t make us biologically perfect parents that don’t kill a few kids, he just made us good enough at it to not go extinct.

[@beautifuldreamer7204]

I can understand that it can be hard being a first time mother, and you need a break from the stress of it all, but that's when you reach out to family or really close friends for help. Or, and in my honest opinion of what should've been done, put them up for adoption so the baby can get all of the attention and tending that they need

[@anjelica948]

I imagine we’ll see a lot more real life cases like this, now that many women don’t have a say in whether or not they want to be pregnant.

[@courtz6722]

I might be the only one thinking this, but that doctor should be up for malpractice. Seriously, they swear an oath to "do no harm" and she berate a woman who clearly has postpartum depression. Women get such BS from the medical field and its really unacceptable. You'll even have doctor force you to give birth in positions that aren't recommended and refuse to treat you if you don't compel with them having their power trip. Bloody BS

[@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef]

Nope. Post-partum depression is not a good enough reason to neglect or kill your baby. Don't make excuses for these evil women. Plenty of women suffer post-partum depression and don't harm their babies.

[@susivarga7303]

​@@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeefdoes your point make the doctor a responsible professional?

[@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef]

@@susivarga7303 a doctor is already a responsible professional.

[@flamekiller3338]

@@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef are you a brick wall, because you are as dense as one

[@flamekiller3338]

@@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef love the brand new troll accounts. did mommy make it for you?

[@LadyLunarella]

Life lesson folks babies are toys theyre not the thing to fix marriages. Theyre a huge responsibility.

[@mel_zzz_]

I've known teen mothers that know when their baby isn't right and they prefer to trust their own eyes. Do women like her really exist? I know very well men like him exist irl. I know many like him but a mom who doesn't even fed a baby? There is no excuse

[@Jeni-le6rc]

There are so many persons are wrong it's tragic First that father didn't even helped that mother ignored her and thr baby Then that nurse and the dr. They clearly ignored the child and also didn't treat him Then the mother she tried but didn't get the help to provide help for her son 💀 So messy i mean everyone ignored the baby whoever involved in this case

[@hbomb0417]

With the way things are going on in the world now it’s episodes of Law and order like this that tries to paint and show the bigger picture that not everyone in the world are meant nor deserve to be parents because cause some are just not mentally emotionally or financially mature enough to bring a baby into this world

[@bananacathammock]

Is this really L&O? They're usually great at handling this stuff. The father would also be in trial.

[@seannaylor5803]

This is one of my favourite episodes. Amy and Jimmy Beltran were chalk and cheese - she didn't want to have kids but he did. Makes you wonder why they were ever together.

[@delmicortave]

How does it end?

[@paubononad4325]

Wow

[@vincentfichtler7758]

If she claims to loved her baby so much then why she let him starve to death ? No mothers in their right state of mind would do such a thing and I bet when she cried those were forced tears because it's quite obvious that she didn't care about the baby although she claims she was.

[@JenniferReyes-z4s]

Law and order don’t play ❤

[@anniekinsmishkamouse7575]

It used to be "breast is best". Now, "fed is best".

[@UeJPTv]

Amy was never getting up every night. Seems that chick didn’t love that child no reaction smh

[@angemaidment5640]

I’m the first to admit I’m naive about relationships, but I don’t get it. I know it’s not always the case, but let’s assume they love each other. They have a baby, also assuming they want kids. Suddenly life is a lot harder than they imagined, and the baby ends up dead.

[@cloudico]

anyone else click bc they thought keanu reeves was on the thumbnail?

[@eeveestrainer4677]

I feel like Ms Strickland played a part in the tragedy

[@kaedeedelweiss9751]

what happened in the end though? was someone charged for the baby's death?

[@Melbell234]

The mom got jail time, I don't know how much, and the dad got off scott free. The argument the lawyer made was the mother is the primary caretaker of children therefore she deserves the punishment.

[@RandomBurner]

The name of this episode is kind of funny

[@wendypennell9432]

Nursing breastfeeding isn’t instinct to the baby nor the mother both have to be trained

[@booklover5238]

Rizzoli?!

[@saradapagediocletian9707]

Not all mothers deserve the gift of motherhood.

[@susivarga7303]

Do you keep your book of cliches on a shelf?

[@saradapagediocletian9707]

@@susivarga7303 eff off, troll.

[@flamekiller3338]

@@susivarga7303 strike a nerve did we?

[@susivarga7303]

@@flamekiller3338 With the cliche collection? A bit.

[@winsomefoster]

Why would mitch bore up himself like that 😒

[@soragaming8668]

so plan B or condoms were just not in the equation of this problem?

[@anjelica948]

Sometimes those methods fail. It’s rare but it does happen. But, it won’t be that much longer before Plan B won’t be allowed. The courts have already mostly outlawed abortion. Birth control is next.

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

That must have been omar williams part they tryed to make them starve no going to happen

[@darkmask5933]

Spoilers for the ending: Amy is found guilty of second-degree manslaughter, which may sound like a win, but the Abbie (the prosecuting attorney) is sickened by the fact that between Amy and her useless husband the two of them combined probably won't serve more than three years for the death of the infant. McCoy just comforts her that she "won" the case and hopes she has better luck tomorrow.

[@KarenLee-bs5ms]

Most of these TV shows are based on true life stories

[@GlennAustin829]

I hear the mother of rapunzel from tangled

[@mrroboshadow]

"you were the one who insisted she had the baby" leaving out the emotinal and legal aspects of what im about to say i highly doubt he held her down for 9 months until she delivered the neglect, mistreatment of the child, these things he IS guilty of but trying to say he's the ONLY reason that she got pregnant and delivered is a real stretch

[@kyleoneil3782]

Red Bobby I love so much are my Boyfriend mean two such thinking like sleeping tonight fall in with wedding together hotel shower and kiss you lip smooth very pretty person remember me

[@Stolaz83]

Looks. LIkeblooD

[@dreamhobbiz]

At least the dad was doing the right thing by working to support the family. I assume that mum is a housewife, so he has to support TWO people, one who cares only for her own wellbeing and cannot be bothered about her own child. All that "I don't know" sounds more to me like "I don't care" because even if one does not know, one tries their damndest to find out, not sit in the chair and watch tv at a loud volume. Why did she not reach out to family and friends if she did need help? She just gave up after a nurse gave her wrong advice. If she REALLY did not want a kid with the guy, why not just leave him? She could have been free to live her own life without the burden of family.

[@katherineheasley6196]

Working to "support" your family isn't worth much if your baby is starving to death. If he'd been involved, if he'd just taken the time to look at his son and question what his wife was saying, he could've saved him. The baby needed to be fed. By whom was immaterial. He's just as guilty as she was of neglecting that baby.

[@sparkio7975]

My brother is the sole provider for him, his fiancée and 2 kids. Even with a full time job and some side hustles, he'd notice if one of his kids was failing to thrive. The father in this episode is not blameless.

[@ToriSavage]

Child abused

[@ToriSavage]

M

[@phuckerpower]

Mothers, no, parents, like her almost always gain custody of their kids.

[@SpdyCki]

I love how the man ends up being the problem when he came home and his woman murders his kid smh

[@franziskaways4956]

She didn't actively murder him. Baby died from neglect. He starved. Both of them were the parents and responsible for his well being.

[@katherineheasley6196]

He could've fed his son. He didn't. He was the baby's parent, too. When a baby dies of neglect in a home with two parents, both are guilty. Taking care of a baby isn't just the mother's job.

[@sparkio7975]

The baby wasn't shaken or beaten. He died slowly over weeks from malnutrition and starvation. Anyone could have fed that baby and yes that includes the man (father of the baby)

[@kristajones7202]

He wasn't the whole problem. But he was part of it.

[@RoveenaBandoo-k2m]

Wsssddddddeddddess🎉🎉

[@Sunset_girl564]

Seconde love it pls like I just wanna be famous 👇

[@sofiaflores1043]

Totally unrelated but Jane Rizzoli 😫🫶❤️