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Жыл бұрын

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@xrl2393
@xrl2393 Жыл бұрын
Dear TalkSport, never let Simon go
@NOORAHMED-wi8hy
@NOORAHMED-wi8hy Жыл бұрын
Few days ago - Pep calls out 9 PL Clubs writing to PL to have City Banned,while Chelsea spend 600M Few days later - PL Sanction City Coincidence,Corruption?🤣
@goosybeats
@goosybeats Жыл бұрын
Simon is the only person who talks sense on this show...
@neilj6322
@neilj6322 Жыл бұрын
McCoist is alright
@Yourbobness
@Yourbobness Жыл бұрын
You dont pay attention.
@nabilshafec7169
@nabilshafec7169 Жыл бұрын
I agree he’s better than most, but he’s a known flipflop, I wouldn’t trust him with my leftovers
@OurTommy
@OurTommy Жыл бұрын
The guy is an idiot, he's said in this video that City need to prove their innocent. The burden of proof in any court case is on the prosecution to prove guilt, not the other way around. The whole case lies on emails attained illegally, who's to say those are real / haven't been doctored in any way? Simon just assumes City are Guilty of all of this (even though he tries to deny that). I'd like to see some evidence (legally obtained) that proves anything like 100 charges before everyone starts the witch hunt.
@chrisharris5497
@chrisharris5497 Жыл бұрын
I'll never understand how Keown gets a spot on this show, the bloke talks absolute drivel.
@kevinpillay6103
@kevinpillay6103 Жыл бұрын
If these charges are proven to be true then the punishment has to be severe. Fines will be worthless to clubs like City. Else the other leagues will be within their rights to bash the PL for not enforcing their own rules.
@lookingforward.2569
@lookingforward.2569 Жыл бұрын
Our owner will make deal with uk government to give you cheap oil in trade for them to make pl drop charges.
@iguiste23
@iguiste23 Жыл бұрын
I agree, been saying the same thing. No one on conspiring against them, if they have cheated and found guilty then they cheated. What's the point of having these rules that make sure every team has a fair chance if they don't use them regardless of team of status?. The only clubs with very high revenue are the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal and for good reason. Man City should not be racking in anywhere near the ammount of these clubs. One reason being they simply don't have the fan base of the likes of Man Utd. That's when it started to look fishy to me.
@wleon4068
@wleon4068 Жыл бұрын
Has to be relegation. Not to the Championship, but to League 1. They also need to be stripped of all they have won.Three titles to Liverpool and three to Manchester Utd. Also clubs who were DIRECTLY impacted by their wins need to SUE!!
@rickallsager4487
@rickallsager4487 Жыл бұрын
FFP was bought in to stop clubs spending beyond their means and to prevent clubs going bust now b4 city's owners bought the club most of the objections come from England so called big four now none of us has the full facts but no one can answer the most important thing if city are found out to be guilty then why would the pl leave it this long to come out with it don't they check the books at end of each season or do regular audits now to say city has no fam base is a load of crap all we are hearing at the moment is alleged nothing has been proven yet unless you have a crystal ball and already no the outcome of this all
@Iamwhatyousayiam
@Iamwhatyousayiam Жыл бұрын
@@wleon4068 won't happen.
@RedDevilDog1207
@RedDevilDog1207 Жыл бұрын
Kompany's response sounds like a response of one who is on the defense. No chance a player wants to be penalized for what happened prior to their arrival
@dudebro3250
@dudebro3250 Жыл бұрын
Kompany should become a politician. They don't answer for the criminal charges they should be neither.
@mchukdez
@mchukdez Жыл бұрын
Makes you start wondering if their players are/were paid on the side through other shady schemes to reduce their costs. 🤔
@atourdeforce
@atourdeforce Жыл бұрын
@@mchukdez They 100% are, this makes up a number of the 100 claims against them.
@NOORAHMED-wi8hy
@NOORAHMED-wi8hy Жыл бұрын
Few days ago - Pep calls out 9 PL Clubs writing to PL to have City Banned,while Chelsea spend 600M Few days later - PL Sanction City Coincidence,Corruption?🤣
@RedDevilDog1207
@RedDevilDog1207 Жыл бұрын
@NOOR AHMED 🤣 if they r guilty then all thr crying about people upset they cheating means nothing. Like robbing a house and upset because they called the cops.
@jonmorris1999
@jonmorris1999 Жыл бұрын
I wish I was just 1% as articulate as Simon Jordan
@caymanjoe2527
@caymanjoe2527 Жыл бұрын
The mans delusional I wouldn’t believe a word the man says
@radgames9024
@radgames9024 Жыл бұрын
My primary school child is more than 1% - might be time to go back to school 😉
@aliyushuaibu4447
@aliyushuaibu4447 Жыл бұрын
@@radgames9024 haha I think it was a figure of speech. You may need to join him at school too 😂
@radgames9024
@radgames9024 Жыл бұрын
@@aliyushuaibu4447 Might be a figure of speech for yours and their circle of people - not mine ;)
@craigmullen9046
@craigmullen9046 Жыл бұрын
I'm an Exile Mancunian what lives in Scarborough now. I've supported Manchester City for 38 years. My last City game was the first game of last season v Norwich we were reigning champions and the atmosphere was pitful And 47 pound for the privilege. That was it for me. Sick of Ludicrous ticket prices, silly kickoff days and times. To many corporates and daytrippers. Sick of over inflated transfer fees and players wages, it was done with a heavy heart as City's my club, in my blood. You know what though, if we face expulsion to Div 2 I'll love it!!! Back reasonable ticket prices, 3PM Saturday kick offs, no more day trippers and corporates. Proper atmosphere again.
@kennywilkinson913
@kennywilkinson913 Жыл бұрын
As a lifelong Portsmout fan I love this comment. Also, was you at the games in 2001 I think it was in the old division 1 but not the 1st division lol. Proper games, proper fans, stadiums over capacity at both games.
@itsmrfish1
@itsmrfish1 Жыл бұрын
I was a season ticket holder at UTD Prices silly now
@BobbySpringer1
@BobbySpringer1 Жыл бұрын
You're on a different planet, mate. I went to games such as Oxford and Swindon away in the old Div 3 in the late-90s and it was shite! The thought of going back to the likes of Ged Brannan and Terry Cooke hoofing it around the pitch is not good!
@kennywilkinson913
@kennywilkinson913 Жыл бұрын
@@BobbySpringer1 I think he's on the same planet, just a different end of the spectrum Mr daytripper
@craigmullen9046
@craigmullen9046 Жыл бұрын
@@kennywilkinson913 2001/2002 season we went up as Champions. Think Pompey got promotion a year later in 2003 under Harry Rednapps stewardship
@brunokagawa6287
@brunokagawa6287 Жыл бұрын
The only reason why Man City haven't come clean already is that they aren't clean at all. Like Simon said, they are simply delaying the inevitable hoping that they would become too big to fail by then.
@ComradeOgilvy1984
@ComradeOgilvy1984 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. City understood they were being investigated several years ago. If they have not been forthcoming with squeaky clean books for the last 4-5 years, it is because they are guilty guilty guilty. At least recent books being open would buy them a degree of sympathy and credibility "well, there were confusing finances in the past, but that is the past". Nobody believes this was just in the past, especially the people within City who have touched the books.
@highfiveentertainment298
@highfiveentertainment298 Жыл бұрын
We haven't because we were hacked, If you using hacked emails to criticize us, We have every right to suggest we Will hack other teams
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 Жыл бұрын
@@highfiveentertainment298 What are you on about? You're going to hack other teams?
@benframpton9302
@benframpton9302 Жыл бұрын
All the more reason to bring them down
@ComradeOgilvy1984
@ComradeOgilvy1984 Жыл бұрын
@@highfiveentertainment298 Then produce more emails and more financial records. It is really not that hard to clarify this, if the truth is on your side.
@pamelajessup7931
@pamelajessup7931 Жыл бұрын
The idea that Pep didn't know the score is laughable. Everybody knew the score and were really just wondering if the FA had the balls to do something about it. Fraudiola.
@lookingforward.2569
@lookingforward.2569 Жыл бұрын
He is a manager, he isn’t apart from the financial team and he does his job to manage the squad not the club finances.
@pamelajessup7931
@pamelajessup7931 Жыл бұрын
@@lookingforward.2569 I'm neither a football manager nor a chartered accountant and I knew they were bent. You're telling up Pep is the thickest person on earth apart from being a good football manager? Does he know where the loos are at Etihad or is that outside his amazingly narrow field of expertise too?
@lookingforward.2569
@lookingforward.2569 Жыл бұрын
@@dondappapumpumslappa8051 most of money came from winning titles and sponsors, our sponsors might be dodgy but the club wouldn’t make it publicly if they thought it could get them in trouble and it’ll difficult for pl to proof their inflated, even if they are.
@lookingforward.2569
@lookingforward.2569 Жыл бұрын
@@pamelajessup7931 his job is to manage the team not the financial side and he could have suspicions but you would with any club owned by state.
@pamelajessup7931
@pamelajessup7931 Жыл бұрын
@@lookingforward.2569 Er, already addressed. My job isn't to manage City's finances, in fact I don't work for them at all, and I know they are crooked. How could Pep NOT know? Is he particularly thick?
@masilomoshesh1475
@masilomoshesh1475 Жыл бұрын
Its only right for City's greatest defender to be defensive of his former club.
@shaunevans4016
@shaunevans4016 Жыл бұрын
He can go and play for them again when they are in the 2nd division
@Tony-df5rs
@Tony-df5rs Жыл бұрын
What did Richard Dunne say like? 😂
@NOORAHMED-wi8hy
@NOORAHMED-wi8hy Жыл бұрын
Few days ago - Pep calls out 9 PL Clubs writing to PL to have City Banned,while Chelsea spend 600M Few days later - PL Sanction City Coincidence,Corruption?🤣
@haileuropa3708
@haileuropa3708 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he's revealing that more clubs are guilty of the same stuff
@NS-zi4fb
@NS-zi4fb Жыл бұрын
@@Tony-df5rs don’t knock the honey monster, best defender in the world in his prime. He was that good he would give the opponent a chance by scoring an own goal per game.
@quinnerefc
@quinnerefc Жыл бұрын
Danny Murphy rubbing his chin thinking 'what the hell are they talking about? OMG quick try and think of something to say...'
@kadarabdullahi
@kadarabdullahi Жыл бұрын
He always seems so lost.
@SCOPE_ON_THE_WING
@SCOPE_ON_THE_WING Жыл бұрын
Bless him
@truthhurts8924
@truthhurts8924 Жыл бұрын
What I really hate as a supporter of a "smaller" Prem team is when the likes of Chelski and Citeh fans accuse the smaller teams of parking the bus, forgetting they have players ON THE BENCH worth more than our entire squad put together!!!, its a joke...how can you compete?? How quickly they forget that both those teams where mid table before the billions!
@Hasb953
@Hasb953 Жыл бұрын
Chelsea literally finished 4th the season before the money came…
@johnvalentine8941
@johnvalentine8941 Жыл бұрын
well i guess you are missing the point in all this, ffp was brought in to stop anybody ever challenging arrsenal liverpool and united, if you want a league dominated by these 3 for the next 100 years then be careful what you wish for, you only need to look at germany france and spain, to see the real effects of ffp, you really want that for the premier league?
@mchachorichard1166
@mchachorichard1166 Жыл бұрын
@@Hasb953 2nd actually Ranieri last season
@deanburns8174
@deanburns8174 Жыл бұрын
So you should be against ffp then
@Baz62
@Baz62 Жыл бұрын
Whats that got to do with the price of cheese
@Zeppelin180
@Zeppelin180 Жыл бұрын
Ask Vincent about his hire car firm…
@RobinHood-us7sg
@RobinHood-us7sg Жыл бұрын
So dodgy 😂
@riposte1960
@riposte1960 Жыл бұрын
You're jealous
@matthewturley9694
@matthewturley9694 Жыл бұрын
Simon said exactly what needed to be said. Absolutely dead on with everything he said here.
@acenmitch1048
@acenmitch1048 Жыл бұрын
Always is
@Beyond_Belief534
@Beyond_Belief534 Жыл бұрын
So why is it City's responsibility to answer to Simon's conspiracy theory about Mancini that he can't prove, by disproving it? That burden of proof reversal is "absolutely dead on" is it? Let's try using that illogic then. I'll make a claim I can't prove and then I'll tell you that it's up to you to disprove it. Unicorns are real Now prove me wrong, you have to prove unicorns don't exist. Derp
@SLSAMG
@SLSAMG Жыл бұрын
As per usual. Top lad.
@acenmitch1048
@acenmitch1048 Жыл бұрын
@@Beyond_Belief534 that’s not how these cases work. It’s not beyond reasonable doubt like criminal cases no one’s going to jail over this
@Parky_1712
@Parky_1712 Жыл бұрын
@Beyond Belief What?? City are the ones making the claim that they generate as much as they do, and spend as 'little' as they do. So it's then up to them to prove that that is actually the case
@Delred1
@Delred1 Жыл бұрын
A high court judge commented on cites delaying tactics, I think this COULD be done rather sooner than later, the Prems has had a preview of m.cities tactics when the inquiry was timed out, don't think that'll be allowed to happen now, ESPECIALY because they are SO keen to show that THEY can clean house, before someone else does it for them.
@renegadesakoetsie8727
@renegadesakoetsie8727 Жыл бұрын
Next they should investigate PGMOL and some of the PL referees, in particular the VAR officials for possible corruption, in the form of accepting bribes based on some of the horrendous officiating since its inception.
@moonglum101
@moonglum101 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@alleadmin3294
@alleadmin3294 Жыл бұрын
For all people complain about Liverpool getting VAR decisions does anybody realise that they have not been awarded ONE penalty this season? ZERO.
@gazlovell6994
@gazlovell6994 Жыл бұрын
That’s because you have to get in the oppositions box to get a penalty 😂
@david9243
@david9243 Жыл бұрын
Wont happen since they are pure brits
@alleadmin3294
@alleadmin3294 Жыл бұрын
@@david9243 What does that even mean?
@killbotone6210
@killbotone6210 Жыл бұрын
I think we are witnessing the bursting of the premier league bubble.
@hotmess2766
@hotmess2766 Жыл бұрын
Definitely not but most certainly Man Cheaty's bubble will burst for sure. Relegation for the Abu dhabi sheiks 😂
@malc568
@malc568 Жыл бұрын
Super league has been given the ok in Europe. Make no mistake something is going to happen
@Heathcliff1848
@Heathcliff1848 Жыл бұрын
Everyone got mad when the head of la liga said the premier league was 'juiced.' the prem is looking like a shady bodybuilder right now.
@Cbart23
@Cbart23 Жыл бұрын
Relegation and 10 year transfer ban.
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
The bottom line is Simon is carrying this channel for greatest showman. ✊👊
@kennethallen3843
@kennethallen3843 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 Жыл бұрын
LFC Spectre = Top Lad Propper Clobber
@JRA73
@JRA73 Жыл бұрын
Simon Jordan could talk to you about how paint dry's and it would sound seriously interesting. Smart man! 😎
@davidgreenwood5241
@davidgreenwood5241 Жыл бұрын
It could affect recruitment if it drags out too long
@markthrelfall7661
@markthrelfall7661 Жыл бұрын
Where's Joe the City fan I miss him already 😂😂😂
@tiepounsalistus9006
@tiepounsalistus9006 Жыл бұрын
A very big digrace city has put me in to
@sediqa4473
@sediqa4473 Жыл бұрын
The Joe guy is a Gem🤣🤣
@MakoMakoMan22
@MakoMakoMan22 Жыл бұрын
What is the point in FFP if it isn't going to effect any players in their playing lifetime? I'm an Everton fan and Liverpool and many other teams have been robbed of moments of Joy and advertising revenue and promotion because a team has potentially cheated. But we won't find out for a very long time.
@TomsDinosaurOpinion
@TomsDinosaurOpinion Жыл бұрын
Simon's intelligence and knowledge are underutilized at TalkSport imo. He needs to be involved in something that benefits the country, a big PL club or the F.A.
@MCFCTheMadHatter
@MCFCTheMadHatter Жыл бұрын
Simon makes some great points as always. However there’s one point where I think everyone is wrong: IF City clear themselves. Even if that happens, they’ll still be called liars and cheats from rival fans and to an extent in more subtle ways, from the media. So it almost seems like they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t. So there really seems to be no incentive for them to try and resolve this quickly.
@ComradeOgilvy1984
@ComradeOgilvy1984 Жыл бұрын
Having been investigated for several years, what is the excuse for the last 5 years of books being less than squeaky clean? At least then they would have a story "oh, our books were a little complex and confusing in the past, but we have them straightened out now". To continue to play these games gets all the honest people out to get City...FOR GOOD REASON. And continuing with this delaying strategy EARNS them the "cheater" label for many years to come.
@Ricardo-ur5os
@Ricardo-ur5os Жыл бұрын
How does that make any sense? What you’re saying is if they get on with it and win their case - thus proving their innocence, they’ll still be called liars? 🤔
@tommay1959
@tommay1959 Жыл бұрын
They are called that now so no change
@MCFCTheMadHatter
@MCFCTheMadHatter Жыл бұрын
@@Ricardo-ur5os Look at the comments to my post. We don’t even know the outcome and both respondents have said it changes nothing. Small sample set, I know, but it answers your question
@MCFCTheMadHatter
@MCFCTheMadHatter Жыл бұрын
@@ComradeOgilvy1984 I thought the charges from 2018-present are for not cooperating with their investigation. This is interesting bc City claim full cooperation while the PL claims the opposite. Neither the PL nor City are bastions of honesty or moral & ethical standards. So it comes across almost ‘he said - she said’ kinda thing. Transparency all around would be great. For me, and independent government regulator is def needed but of course the PL won’t want that at all costs
@MarkChandler-fb1fm
@MarkChandler-fb1fm Жыл бұрын
I don't think they should take the titles away, because the players on the field still had to play and win the games.
@user-uz4xu3ot9z
@user-uz4xu3ot9z Жыл бұрын
Simon is a heavyweight businessman.
@kanewingfield6441
@kanewingfield6441 Жыл бұрын
10 year investigation and probably few years till a punishment. Hard to grasp all the delays. Surely a transfer ban till a verdict or set a transfer cap till then. Its unfair on so many teams
@abiodunodeleye7984
@abiodunodeleye7984 Жыл бұрын
“Everybody does it”. Best defense ever!
@Ben256MB
@Ben256MB Жыл бұрын
A million wrongs don't make it right !!
@displayname2149
@displayname2149 Жыл бұрын
I’m on 0:15 seconds.. let me guess. Danny said it..
@dregen8662
@dregen8662 Жыл бұрын
i can´t imagine how frustating can be to work hard for doing things right reaching your objetives and meanwhile theres a club who gests everything with a finger snaps from a Sheik, its so unfair
@davidwilliams116
@davidwilliams116 Жыл бұрын
Just like Chelsea with abramavitch .
@shaunyoung7798
@shaunyoung7798 Жыл бұрын
The players and manager still worked to win what they have, United spent more than city in the last ten years and have zero titles, yes money helps but it isn't an automatic win
@dregen8662
@dregen8662 Жыл бұрын
@@shaunyoung7798 you are lying to yourself saying that
@dregen8662
@dregen8662 Жыл бұрын
@@davidwilliams116 yes, Chelsea also did it but Man City did it even more exaggerate
@theach84
@theach84 Жыл бұрын
We’ve always suspected this of City. it’s just that now the PL has tangible evidence of what we knew all along.
@ryanmclaren9873
@ryanmclaren9873 Жыл бұрын
The more I listen to Simon the more I like him, he actually makes sense 😮
@richarddawson8040
@richarddawson8040 Жыл бұрын
Simon, you are such a knowledgeable fella, love listening to you. Your absolutely bang on.
@Loadedopinions
@Loadedopinions Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Saudi League buys City into their league. Next thing they buy Arsenal and Tottenham. That ladies and gentlemen is the Super League
@shogun0810
@shogun0810 Жыл бұрын
Lol a super league consisting of clubs who've never won in European cup. Imagine 🙈😂
@matthewjames7268
@matthewjames7268 Жыл бұрын
@@shogun0810 bahahahaha , gold !!!!!
@davidtuer5825
@davidtuer5825 Жыл бұрын
@@dondappapumpumslappa8051 I'm afraid that months of playing in empty stadiums proved that the only fans who matter are those that watch their football on SKY or some other streaming channel.
@idrisdawodu6831
@idrisdawodu6831 Жыл бұрын
spot on Simon! stalling is a useful tool for the guilty
@hughlewis9108
@hughlewis9108 Жыл бұрын
Just found our that Sheikh Mansour is the Deputy Prime Minister of UAE... Been living under a rock with this piece of info.. Simon's answer 10:19 to Danny's question makes alot of sense...
@Micker375
@Micker375 Жыл бұрын
How did you not know this ?
@hughlewis9108
@hughlewis9108 Жыл бұрын
​@@Micker375 i did not know this piece of info, the same way as I did not know Simon Jordan was once an owner of Crystal Palace.. I've just picked up info by bits and pieces here and there from Talksport, Sky Sports News etc.......Besides, does an "average" football fan really know anything about their football club's owners? I'm a Spurs supporter and I couldnt really tell you what Joe Lewis' business ventures are without the need to google it. xD..
@BennHaze
@BennHaze Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t aware of that either!
@Micker375
@Micker375 Жыл бұрын
@@BennHaze what did you think a Sheikh was?
@BennHaze
@BennHaze Жыл бұрын
@@Micker375 lol very good point. Maybe a royal title, hadn’t thought about it honestly. Every days a school day
@burnaardnufc3173
@burnaardnufc3173 Жыл бұрын
Better Call Saul 👉
@robzombie5928
@robzombie5928 Жыл бұрын
That man knows a technicality when he finds one
@darkchildwhat1
@darkchildwhat1 Жыл бұрын
Truth is City has benefitted massively due to this. Not just for those 10 years but even the team today, the fans showing off about selling players at good valuations, etc.. none of this would be possible without the financial cheating from the start
@lookingforward.2569
@lookingforward.2569 Жыл бұрын
We wouldn’t be found quality, MC owner will make a deal with uk parliament to trade you cheap oil in energy crisis if they pressure the pl to drop there charges.
@darkchildwhat1
@darkchildwhat1 Жыл бұрын
@City blue appreciate your allegiance to City. To understand these actions, one needs to understand the cultural differences. Where your owners are from, people of their standing can do as they like socially and financially. It’s a different way of life, not better or worse, just different. Problem is rules in the premier league and the U.K. generally are different too.. and they decided to act as they do elsewhere
@charanjeetjawanda3827
@charanjeetjawanda3827 Жыл бұрын
@@lookingforward.2569 So you'll use bribes to get out of guilt?
@darkchildwhat1
@darkchildwhat1 Жыл бұрын
@City blue good luck. You might want to think about which team you’ll start supporting next season
@jalberto428
@jalberto428 Жыл бұрын
Not the fans fault one bit, and won't be the last club, prem need to look at Chelsea, United
@raycarlbrown-amory3509
@raycarlbrown-amory3509 Жыл бұрын
People hate Simon Jordan but he speaks so much truth
@csm0772
@csm0772 Жыл бұрын
Why does this need to drag on? If this was a company and someone had been fiddling the figures, they would be suspended while investigations took place. They've had 4 years to provide details and clear their name, but they haven't.
@TheKmethod
@TheKmethod Жыл бұрын
When I watch a Simon Jordan video I pull out my Oxford English dictionary
@lauriesmith82
@lauriesmith82 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Jordan only has three words in his vocabulary - 'narrative', 'dynamic' and 'agenda'!
@deadinthebed963
@deadinthebed963 Жыл бұрын
Hes hardly Bertrand Russell
@paskapaterson4019
@paskapaterson4019 Жыл бұрын
City have asked for transparency at every step. It’s not the club delaying and masking things, it’s the football authorities.
@professorb3843
@professorb3843 Жыл бұрын
There is no precedent in English football that says the second placed team would retrospectively be awarded the title, but it has happened in Italy’s Serie A. Juventus were stripped of the league title in 2005-2006 and the award was given to second place Inter Milan.
@bertieyoung3827
@bertieyoung3827 Жыл бұрын
Dosent always end that way though, the old Glasgow Rangers were allowed to keep their tainted titles which were transferred to the new club (Sevco) which is an absolute disgrace that still haunts the Scottish game till this day. Hopefully Man City if proven guilty suffer the harshest of punishments which would be losing anything won in the years when these offences occurred and expulsion from the PL until they get their house in order. The fact this could take as long to get sorted could be the demise of the PL as being the top league in the world. Mud sticks.
@Themunkeymac
@Themunkeymac Жыл бұрын
"Pep could walk away the next day". The length of time this would take to get through the various halls of law and arbitration, Peps contract, including the new extension will of likely passed. This will roll on for a long time.
@jamescarter5041
@jamescarter5041 Жыл бұрын
Man City should be treated just like Mason Greenwood was when he was charged with improper conduct.
@phelhamgreen793
@phelhamgreen793 Жыл бұрын
Mason Greenwood and man City are two different problem you guys should face your own problem and let Greenwood be
@jamescarter5041
@jamescarter5041 Жыл бұрын
@@phelhamgreen793 What do you mean?
@ynwa73
@ynwa73 Жыл бұрын
Relegation is minimum punishment
@terryhorne2582
@terryhorne2582 Жыл бұрын
Also give us our title winners status for last season 👏.
@ballardghost4805
@ballardghost4805 Жыл бұрын
@@terryhorne2582 But what difference does it make that 3-2 win against Vila still haunts you to this day.🥲🙃
@ballardghost4805
@ballardghost4805 Жыл бұрын
@@terryhorne2582 All these allegations will be forgot in a year from now, the last minute City wins to the title will haunt you forever.🙃
@BritishRosie-es3zr
@BritishRosie-es3zr Жыл бұрын
"Represented Boris Johnson in Partygate" - Johnson lost and was fined, and ultimately lost his job and power.
@dnstone1127
@dnstone1127 Жыл бұрын
Points deductions should start at beginning of a season so all clubs know what they're competing against
@karlmchugh
@karlmchugh Жыл бұрын
What happened to Enron's accounting firm? Upon being publicized in October 2001, the company declared bankruptcy and its accounting firm, Arthur Andersen - then one of the five largest audit and accountancy partnerships in the world - was effectively dissolved.
@colinburns9736
@colinburns9736 Жыл бұрын
More excellence from Simon. Thank you. Really. When you hear experience and intelligence and common sense you know what it is. And Simon is it. Radical and outspoken maybe. Blunt. Offensive or close sometimes. But still. Been around, smart, sensible. Bravo. Bloody bravo.
@easynowoldchap04
@easynowoldchap04 Жыл бұрын
Smart and sensible go ask him how he ran crystal palace pmsl
@Welshwolf62
@Welshwolf62 Жыл бұрын
Colin are you going 2 mow the lawn 4 simon stop bum licking ffs grow a pair 😜
@kevmorris6817
@kevmorris6817 Жыл бұрын
The guy lost around 40 million quid at a club he owned! Sour grapes from a sour individual!
@Kurgan618
@Kurgan618 Жыл бұрын
Absolute power corrupts absolutely - there you go, Jordan. You can use that and save your breath.
@huna1950
@huna1950 Жыл бұрын
Danny finished a couple of Simons sentences to get his wages paid in on Friday 🤣🕺
@xKingSeraphx
@xKingSeraphx Жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣
@bossdeman
@bossdeman Жыл бұрын
He's not a legal practioner ...so a little harsh
@xKingSeraphx
@xKingSeraphx Жыл бұрын
@@bossdeman Jeeeeeez … There’s always someone who takes the joke too literal 😅😅
@huna1950
@huna1950 Жыл бұрын
@@bossdeman true but neither is Simon …and he’s on there for his opinion broad spectrum analysis
@SCOPE_ON_THE_WING
@SCOPE_ON_THE_WING Жыл бұрын
Danny Murphy wondering if he left the fridge open
@richy_B
@richy_B Жыл бұрын
'If' they're guilty, I think what they mean is 'if' they get away with it lol
@Akinwalesegun
@Akinwalesegun Жыл бұрын
they did this with chelsea. tuchel and rudiger will go man utd, which club will take which chelsea player etc
@Adam-hg3so
@Adam-hg3so Жыл бұрын
I'm a city fan and I'll admit I'm worried and it doesn't look good
@TheDarkhorse1947
@TheDarkhorse1947 Жыл бұрын
You could find that other countrys have the same things going on. Its not a surprise considering the amount of money involved and the success that the clubs are after.
@rtyuu999
@rtyuu999 Жыл бұрын
When Simon Jordan talks about the politics and legalities of football he is second to none on this show and very intriguing to listen to. But when it comes to straight football talk, he has a few howlers 😅
@cestrian5294
@cestrian5294 Жыл бұрын
Saracens in Rugby Union breached the Salary cap and were relegated, no messing about, no warnings. Love the comments from Kompany who benefitted from the dubious actions of his former Club.
@garycroft4960
@garycroft4960 Жыл бұрын
Let's face it United blew that league when Aguero scored with seconds to go you were 8 points clear with 5 games to go blew it , if you'd of won that league that day you wouldn't be saying nothing now would you.
@seanduffy5251
@seanduffy5251 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Man city should be put on the club equivalent of gardening leave until this case is over then they might rethink their tactics of trying to drag it out.
@muneeeb9897
@muneeeb9897 Жыл бұрын
As always, Simon says it as it is. The only person worth following around this story, or any story for that matter.
@anon7503
@anon7503 Жыл бұрын
Simon Jordan is way too intelligent for a little football call in show lol.
@Beyond_Belief534
@Beyond_Belief534 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't understand how a logical burden of proof works. He thinks its up to City to disprove some conspiracy theory about a dual contract he thinks Mancini that he can't prove himself! Burden of proof reversals aren't intelligent, they're logically fallacious.
@BennHaze
@BennHaze Жыл бұрын
I think he will be well remunerated for being on the show
@simoneldridge2413
@simoneldridge2413 Жыл бұрын
How thick is Jim White ? Why are Man City getting one of the best lawyers ?
@wtfamiactuallyright1823
@wtfamiactuallyright1823 Жыл бұрын
If they've got any sense, they'll run away.
@keithcapon4876
@keithcapon4876 Жыл бұрын
The bottom line is that Simon knows what he’s talking about 👍
@Ali74
@Ali74 Жыл бұрын
Retrospective action must also be taken and all the league titles awarded to the rightful winners.
@MrsRhianne1996
@MrsRhianne1996 Жыл бұрын
Not going to happen
@steve13191
@steve13191 Жыл бұрын
Pep knew all this, and i have no doubt he has benefited from the ownership, you would be crazy not to assume that. If he’s taking the moral high ground like a catholic church, then he is lower than low. This like a mexican drugs cartel, dont expect their money to be clean. Nobody is that naive 😂
@xjimmemakesmusicx
@xjimmemakesmusicx Жыл бұрын
Its baffling to me people are defending Pep as if he was just an innocent bystander for all of this 😂
@ngmmngw9027
@ngmmngw9027 Жыл бұрын
if you go to a club that is basically sponsored by a human rights abusing Country you can't take the moral high ground
@darkchildwhat1
@darkchildwhat1 Жыл бұрын
Exactly right
@omnipresentsage
@omnipresentsage Жыл бұрын
Please try asking another question when Simon is done answering the previous one. Chipping in or cutting someone off in the middle of answering a question isn’t nice. I notice that quite a lot with y’all.
@4eyes239
@4eyes239 Жыл бұрын
I think most of us come hard and fast Simon 😂😮
@anjummughal8536
@anjummughal8536 Жыл бұрын
I can't live without Talks port.
@lifeinslo-mo595
@lifeinslo-mo595 Жыл бұрын
"The truth shall set you free"
@Starretsmedia
@Starretsmedia Жыл бұрын
Imagine 2 of greatest managers in the last 7 years could walk in the next 6 months
@andrewwalker8120
@andrewwalker8120 Жыл бұрын
Kompany was never going to go against City, considering he's wanting Pep's job in the future, a statue for himself and all the cash they paid him!
@billyvilla82
@billyvilla82 Жыл бұрын
Why is Danny Murphy even on this show 🤦‍♂️ 😂
@robertoriordan4083
@robertoriordan4083 Жыл бұрын
If Pep leaves when/if City go down then IMO his reputation will be tarnished, he needs to then brings them back or at least help start process..
@peterparker7462
@peterparker7462 Жыл бұрын
Let him try and bring them back up from the championship without the financial freedom they have and he(pep) will struggle.
@Goona187
@Goona187 Жыл бұрын
Pep will be gone well before the conclusion to these charges going to court,he won't want to be around for it all to come out.
@Dethred1
@Dethred1 Жыл бұрын
I remember when everyone got giddy about City being banned from the CL. That was funny. Desperate people.
@dirtydawg448
@dirtydawg448 Жыл бұрын
This could easily explode into a huge scandal because there must be a few other Clubs that are sweating a bit - there is another aspect to all of this which will have to come out if other Clubs get drawn into the scandal and that is the role that the people at the Premier League have played - fourteen years to address the problem absolutely stinks of corruption - and corruption on a potentially huge and possibly criminal scale
@tonybennett1462
@tonybennett1462 Жыл бұрын
PL is shitting it, trying to deflect away from the white paper, people forget that the UAE trade is worth over £18 billion. Some of the UAE ministers own City so the government will get involved, this could see the downfall of the PL
@dirtydawg448
@dirtydawg448 Жыл бұрын
@@tonybennett1462 that’s what they said about FIFA though wasn’t it? I agree with you 100% but suspect you need to change the word “could” to “should” as sadly it’s a more likely outcome
@joemckeown2763
@joemckeown2763 Жыл бұрын
Watching Danny Murphy try and wrap his head around some of the concepts here is painful viewing.
@abdulrahmanfakhroo4966
@abdulrahmanfakhroo4966 Жыл бұрын
Quality punditry as usual
@cceffect
@cceffect Жыл бұрын
It screams of Saracens in rugby. Players were basically said "we'll pay you x amount, but then also pay your mortgage" which doesn't go into Salary cap
@craiggourley6487
@craiggourley6487 Жыл бұрын
Simon is bang on! 👌
@caymanjoe2527
@caymanjoe2527 Жыл бұрын
He talks absolute shite
@stev4738
@stev4738 Жыл бұрын
Used to get a bit bored hearing Simon talk but recently I've come round to enjoying him speak , boxing and football. Knows what he's talking about no beating around the bush.
@mchukdez
@mchukdez Жыл бұрын
I’d like to ask G. Neville his thoughts, he always said that City has done great things for the PL!
@iammalenotv
@iammalenotv Жыл бұрын
The premier league big teams knows city are going to spend Alot this season ,so they are trying to stop that, because is city spend on the transfer market other clubs won't touch the league for a long time like they did before
@andyslate9996
@andyslate9996 Жыл бұрын
What like Chelsea and didn't man u spend 270 million in a window
@wolvehammer5959
@wolvehammer5959 Жыл бұрын
It's more like the whole football wants man city out
@shaneannandale457
@shaneannandale457 Жыл бұрын
Like it’s not true one player worth more than bottom teams whole budget!!!!!! Need a salary cap even if it’s crazy and most teams can’t reach it ???????more even better comp
@thomasleahy1740
@thomasleahy1740 Жыл бұрын
Will the clubs that lost twice to them and went down by less than 6 points have a case against city?
@zaidahmed9527
@zaidahmed9527 Жыл бұрын
If you get a speeding ticket you get a minimum fine, another speeding ticket you get 3 points on licence. If you get multiple speeding tickets you get your licence taken away, and potential big ban as well as a huge fine. Man City have multiple charges against them... If found guilty anything other than relegation is a parking ticket to them It will set a bad precedent that if you have money you have nothing to worry about breaking rules
@wayneduffy1976
@wayneduffy1976 Жыл бұрын
Jim!!! Is this the English version of the famous Glasgow rangers 2012 nonsense!!
@stetomlinson3146
@stetomlinson3146 Жыл бұрын
More importantly for City, Pep has said he'll walk, if it comes out they lied.
@ArahTao
@ArahTao Жыл бұрын
Asking 80 million for Harry Maguire is a scam, why clubs are not question for bloating up player value?
@omatseyeugen5697
@omatseyeugen5697 Жыл бұрын
I don't want them to be guilty either, Simon
@DavidJones-ql3vn
@DavidJones-ql3vn Жыл бұрын
Kompanys always going to stick up for city though
@philanderphillips2309
@philanderphillips2309 Жыл бұрын
For repeat champions, I never see City kits wherever I go.
@stupefy934
@stupefy934 Жыл бұрын
Living under a rock must be tough
@av98
@av98 Жыл бұрын
@@stupefy934 Rock in Oil. Not many SHITTY kits compared to United, Liverpool and Arsenal.
@stupefy934
@stupefy934 Жыл бұрын
Keep filling the tanks n fund the lawyers 😂😂 For me arsenal and United kits look shitty, everyone can have their opinions kiddo
@shaunevans4016
@shaunevans4016 Жыл бұрын
@@stupefy934 I live in Manchester and he is right nobody supports city just a bunch of kids who will support anyone who wins the league..lift up your rock to read this please
@stupefy934
@stupefy934 Жыл бұрын
@@shaunevans4016 “I live in Manchester” can win me this thread, why do I see so many people on tv in the stadium ? Must be cgi heh ?
@TheHandsomeman
@TheHandsomeman Жыл бұрын
Should give them all a council job.
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊💯 Facts
@sebseb8643
@sebseb8643 Жыл бұрын
Simon Jordan , good content hombre
@jthakurdin
@jthakurdin Жыл бұрын
Well said Simon. This is the ultimate effect of having oil rich oligarchies in football.
@paulharrison7761
@paulharrison7761 Жыл бұрын
The PL dont have the backbone to make anything stick.
@stephenowen6862
@stephenowen6862 Жыл бұрын
Murphy bringing nothing to the party. Just like keown the other day sitting there like a dummy.
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