Unbeatable Norwegian Builds MAX BATTLESHIP!

[@Incuggarch]

This was a tournament game with a 30 day limit, meaning that whoever has more properties after that day will win, assuming the game doesn’t end before that. I think Profeta was right to resign when he did since there was no realistic way for him to capture enough properties to win before the day limit at that point. Being down 12K income per turn and having a lot of his army value invested in fighters and the cruiser, I was effectively even further ahead in terms of unit count and army value than the raw numbers would indicate. The battleship was built to a large degree because of the day limit on this game, since the battleship makes it very difficult for Profeta to ever recapture the harbor and the nearby city that I took from him. As a bonus it also makes it harder for him to defend his lab, since the battleship can lock down two of his cities and prevent him from using them for defensive terrain/repairs. The battleship also covered my topmost b-copter, so it actually accomplished quite a few things. As soon as I got ahead on properties I was effectively in a winning position because of the day limit. I was honestly perfectly fine with just sitting back and stalling the game out, since at that point it was really Profeta who needed to do something if he didn’t want to just lose the game. I think Profeta had the right idea of trying to sack some of his units into me to get enough charge for his Typhoon, since Max’s units do become a lot weaker at 8HP compared to when they are at full health, but unfortunately for him I was able to find a very nice attack with my Super before that could come to fruition. The fight from day 20 onwards is actually a lot tougher for Profeta than it might look at first glance, since he needs to not only find a way to win the fight but also win it fast enough to have time to then push forward and capture some of my properties on the back of it. Meanwhile I can always choose to just take a scorched earth approach and prioritize killing off or damaging his infantry/mechs if the fight ever turns against me, since I don't need to win the fight, I just have to prevent/delay those property captures from happening. Happy 17th of May 🥳

[@whattheshmitty]

In your expert opinion, considering how aggressive Max needs to be by nature, and the 30 day limit, was Drake really the right choice for him? Another thing that I'm also getting from this is that a stall-like global damage CO just really isn't the play on a map and ruleset such as this. He has to hold back while you act aggressive and take properties.

[@alex_zetsu]

How many times has Mangs won a victory by time (or opponent resigned due to time) when the opponent would have had at least a 1 out of 6000 chances of coming back if the only loss conditions were HQ capture or route? Actually the answer may be "not many" since because of stupid comm towers every unit feels more fragile and the first strike advantage is larger. Ok, how many matches do you think could still be contested without the time limit if the comm towers simply went poof and got replaced by properties that provided vision and no income or attack boost? I feel like sometimes his opponent surrendered when there would have been a shot without a time limit.

[@SimoneBellomonte]

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[@SimoneBellomonte]

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[@Mangs1337]

Happy birthday Norway!

[@KongGig]

Glad Norsk dag!

[@imboredrly5478]

happy birthday norway!

[@Ukyuu9]

Happy Birthday Norway!! 🇳🇴😊

[@robertoperez3714]

Happy birthday norway

[@Rin_husband]

The guy named Norway:

[@Empereur-Franc]

Incuggarch : "Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl" Also Incuggarch : *plays Max*

[@randomcuttlefish6778]

You say Profeta has the value advantage at the end, but really, no, that’s just on paper. 68000 of that value was in Drake fighters against an opponent with one 2hp battle copter, and another 18000 was in a trapped cruiser. Even without a time limit Profeta was screwed six was to Sunday and he knew it. I wasn’t surprised at him resigning at all. P.S. Happy birthday/anniversary to Norwegian democracy!🎉

[@matthewshuck5190]

I have to agree with your assessment. combat useful units really are 2 megas and 1 neo. max is halfway to another power drake has an empty bar. the only 'useless' max unit is the battleship which has strong zoning power

[@izalco2867]

Yea thats what i was seeing. A high value on units but those units were uncapable of attacking or doing anything relevant (fighters, cruiser, and transport copter)

[@SimoneBellomonte]

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[@SimoneBellomonte]

@@izalco2867In anycdzszghgvdzszh caserdzszhgdzszvghgvgdzszh Pfp (Profile picture) and / or Banner Sauce (Source [Artist])? 🗿

[@ChaosBeaver]

At the end there Incuggarch didn't pop Max Blast, he popped Max Force even though he did have enough for his super power. I think that was a strong factor in Profeta resigning early since a push there would hand a Max Blast to Incuggarch and not pushing the attack would just be death by economy.

[@art-games6230]

I especially liked that max build a battleship before drake

[@phdbot4483]

Yeah! Not to mention the FIRST time he used his power, he ALSO used Max Force instead. It's incredible how well he managed his meter so that he still had enough to pop Max Blast when he needed it the most! ^^

[@notZabami]

@@art-games6230 Isn't max the one who has the great artillery? why else would he always have Pre-Deployed Artillery in Advance wars Story Missions?

[@art-games6230]

@@notZabami he has less range and damage on indirects, in the campaign Nell even says that you need too check the ranges of your indirects

[@SimoneBellomonte]

@@notZabamiI cant tell if thiszhdzszerdzsz is supposed to be some kindzszghgvgdzszh of sarcasdmzszh or a jokeszhdrrerrdrrdzszvghgvdzszh lollkghgvdzszrdrrerrdrrdrzszh.

[@Bethany38326]

What i expected: video about AW What i got: Norwegian history and culture lesson. Based im pleasantly surprised.

[@magicalcapi9148]

Mangs: ✓ Culture ✓ Thunder energy ✓ Advance Wars (legend says also Fire Emblem, but nobody is sure...) ✓ Baldness ✓ Artilleries yes

[@rubberduck4548]

I know mangs is Norwegian but it always feels quite strange to hear him speak the same language as me

[@Kolaris8472]

Come for Advanced Wars, stay for Norwegian lessons!

[@art-games6230]

The cultures of this world are truly astounding, for one species too have this many unique traditions and cultures is really great, have fun mangs!

[@fortytudo]

bruh do u know how many variations of ants exist?

[@panthekirb7561]

@@fortytudo And humans aren't build the same either

[@art-games6230]

@@fortytudo a lot, but those are different species

[@art-games6230]

@@panthekirb7561 that’s true, but we’re still genetically close enough too be one species

[@fortytudo]

@@art-games6230 dont play semantics with me. Ants are ants, humans are humans.

[@zekenotech]

So on Norway Day, you dress up, wear cool hats, wave flags, go outside and eat sausages in buns and icecream and other sweets. It's exactly like our 4th of July in the states. I love it so much.

[@The_Foxymew]

More parades, I reckon. Pretty much every town has a parade, as long as they have a school. So not just in big cities. Not even just in cities, for that matter, even just the congregation places where we eat said sausages, waffles and ice creams. Addendum: I think we basically switch fireworks for the parades.

[@marioluigijam3612]

One difference though. No guns.

[@panthekirb7561]

@@marioluigijam3612 🤓

[@SchemingGoldberg]

@@marioluigijam3612 Patriotic Republican states have far less gun deaths compared to Democrat states which have strict gun control.

[@nlald]

America has a lot of parades, too. Even small towns with around 2,000 pop. in the middle of nowhere tend to have Independence Day parades. It seems like maybe the parade composition is a bit different in Norway, though? US parades are organized around “floats” put together by local organizations and community groups. Norwegian parades seem to have more individuals waving flags. Am I right in thinking that?

[@neosaver]

31:44 : That moment was epic, just like two gigantic opposing armies launching a battlecry and running at each other in a fury resulting in a huge bloodbath, this is war.

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Pfp (Profile picture) and / or Banner Sauce (Source [Artist])? 🗿

[@parnash]

I feel like the resign was the fact there was another Max Force right around the corner, and that most definitely would've done Profeta in, especially with THE WALL

[@bobtheminion4632]

I wonder who Mangs was rooting for the entire match... Gratulerer med grunnlovsdagen (Happy Constitution Day in Norweigan)

[@KongGig]

Kul att höra lite om vad ni norrmän gör under eran nationaldag. Önskar att vi Svenskar var bättre på att fira våran nationaldag.

[@musiikkimies9241]

Han är svensk i hjärtan 🤣

[@seanprice8907]

It's not always about the tanks Max. . . . . It's about the MECS BABY! LOVE THE MECS COME ON MECS KILL SOME UNITS LETS GO MECS! LOVE THA MECS!

[@SubLuminary]

I came for a cool fight, I stayed for the Norwegian holiday

[@loneizzleoutlaw]

Profeta's value is all illusory - he way overbuilt fighters in response to the max bombers and I think the movement on that extra cruiser was a tremendous blunder.

[@phdbot4483]

That was a very explosive match. There was a lot of back and forth between players because of how well they both used their Powers. The thing that stood out to me from Incuggarch, however was that he didn't just use Max Blast only. He used Max Force in his first push, so that he could have some meter leftover so he could use Max Blast the next time he needed to use a power. Same thing for that third time, he used Max Force instead. He managed his meter super well to keep the ball rolling against Profeta's Typhoons. I'll also have to remember this map, because I think it's interesting to have a High Funds map that locks one of each players' bases into making infantry/mechs till they get a Lander for their bigger units.

[@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS]

Came for the clickbait battleship, stayed for actual contentbait of someone building a goddamn cruiser. I think the mechs weren't that good here. Deployed in a super open field, but mechs are horrible at defending in open fields, especially against Max, although I don't really know anything about high funds and looking how the map turned out... maybe they actually are just a good wall that's a pain to wade through when you hit unit cap. That's the thing about CO strategies. The best strategy on every CO is to build their weakest unit if that unit will win you the game. Even Max indirects. The rest is just general strategies that usually give value, but specific strategies that win the game trump those. Personally I don't know how Incuggarch won. My instinct says this is just an awful matchup for Max.

[@kingofslimes233]

Happy Norway day Egg, glad to see and Incuggarch match. Great content as always.

[@guineboud1347]

Gratulerer med grunnlovsdag!!! 🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴 Lenge leve kongen! 👑

[@Chaosnerd]

The norwegian traditional clothing kinda resembles those of bavaria. It has the same flair.

[@notZabami]

Happy Norway Day! I hope you're having a great day mangs! As a advance wars and fire emblem fan, I understand that some people wish you did more fire emblem, but I say you do whatever! Again, have a great Norway Day! (P.S. I'm not sure if i should call it Norway day is there a more proper name?)

[@madsli]

Just say happy 17th of May, every Norwegian will understand. Just like in the USA you say happy 4th of July.

[@utkphilobio]

Oh man. I loved my time in Norway. Spent a week in Oslo, plus a few days in Bergen and Tromso. Brunost was one of my favorite things I discovered. So delicious!

[@gladd8869]

Happy birthday to Norway for giving us Mangs!

[@Nightmare_52]

it is a double special day for me as i am norwegian and its my birthday makes for a messy day to plan parties though

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

I can't Believe Mangs Clickbaited me with Advance Wars to teach about Norway culture (The match is still a Huge banger)

[@lukazfox_lol]

i almost say "Norwish" because thats my own way of saying "norwegian" so... happy norway day!

[@blankblank6214]

Why ain't mangs in a bunat

[@thenamesandounts9807]

Incuggarch and Profeta: Spends 10 Days refusing to fight each other Mangs: What you're seeing here is advance warfare.

[@mattmunroe9905]

I mean that is a strong indicator of high level play in many games, and even real war. Rushing in too soon without the proper prep/intel can spell doom and in war can lead to uneeded casualties. Keep in mind that first push had one single goal. 10 days of prep wasn't even to win the game it was to win the harbor.

[@thenamesandounts9807]

@@mattmunroe9905 I get that charging in isn't the most efficient way to plat the game. But at the same time it isn't very entertaining to watch the two players stand around and wait for their superpowers to charge.

[@SaurusTheKing]

Hey Mangs! Found your channel about half a year ago and been enjoying the content. Normally I find strategy gamesd hard to watch since I'd rather be playing them and giving my own thoughts rather than watch someone else, but you make it so entertaining. Doesn't help that Advance Wars has been a favourite of mine since childhood. I wanted to ask if you'll get around to making a big comparison list/variety of videos showing the differences between the OG Advance Wars game and Reboot camp? Stuff like if missions are changed, dialogue, unit matchups, lenience on ranking in Campaign, the introduction of casual mode and the changes it makes. Stuff like that. I know you already made a video showing how Flak is identical to before, but there are so many fascinating questions that come out of a remake that it's leaving me hungry for information surrounding the differences, if there are many to include. If you don't, that's totally fine since it'd be quite the task. I still love the content you produce!

[@aarontindall6944]

Well, I'm not entirely sold on Norway, but I do have to say that their flag is a big plus.

[@notZabami]

i agree with the latter point

[@dstreetz91]

That's Switzerland though. Just a nice + sign.

[@HippieInHeart]

ngl, I'm an absolute incuggarch fanboy. I love indirects and the way he handles them is just so goddamn beautiful. Sadly, not a lot of that to see in this match, but still. If I was gay, I'd probably fall in love with- wait a minute. I *am* gay. XD (nah but srsly tho, always enjoy watching his matches)

[@OptimalOwl]

Hold on Mangs, that melody... Isn't it Obligationsmarschen? "Går du med efter obligationer? Har du hört vilken ränta du får? Vi ska skramla till många miljoner, vi ska tömma vår spargris i år."

[@Mangs1337]

Nei, Nørge i rødt hvitt og blått!

[@OptimalOwl]

@@Mangs1337 Oh hey, I just read this: 'Norge i rødt, hvitt og blått (Norway in red, white and blue) is one of Norway's most famous national songs. [...] The melody was composed by Lars-Erik Larsson, originally under the name "Obligationsmarschen", with lyrics by Alf Henrikson, as a work commissioned by the Swedish state.[1][2] ' I don't even want to poke fun at this. A soaring patriotic melody like this goes way better with a message like "let's love our country and resist occupation" than with "help pay for guns pliz." Cue Eternal Swede jokes here. Ack och ve!

[@thebrazillianguytm2186]

Huh... why the Max Bs is just 1-4? I'm missing something here? Its a replay viewer oversight?

[@Mangs1337]

That's a good point, it should be 1-5

[@FidoriaSky]

Famous Sigmax BattleShip

[@zergolicious666]

i really enjoy your replays its very entertaining and fun, im not too good at these games its nice to get commentary as good as this

[@jeremymiller3305]

Happy birthday Norway! Max Blast Sigma Battleship being used by the best ADV player from Norway! Mangs is having the time of his life!

[@bienhy5120]

max Bship isnt something to meme actually and it's still a very strong unit. only losing 20% of it's range (from 2-6 to 5-6). max rocket is also usable since it can ward off non-grit artillery (with 33% range losing). it's just max artillery that is unusable with a whopping half range nerfed

[@tubey84]

So you basically dress up as Fire Emblem: Awakening characters :)

[@mattiyito1]

Are black bombs not allowed in these matches? After 15+ years playing this game, I just learned of this website. I’m so mad I didn’t catch on to this earlier

[@anditwasknownas]

Happy Bday Norway! 🇳🇴 Very wholesome hollyday and have a nice day Mangs!

[@eddiec9756]

So when does the Mangs video about the history of Noway drop in the style of the Devil Axe and Weapon Triangle?

[@LopsidedMoz]

Profeta was in no position to push into Incu at the end, and with the income + unit disadvantage he probably realised it was gg

[@Jake123557]

21:51 Hilarious how Profeta's cruiser is suddenly preventing a interrupt of the capture from the battle copter. The unit that was made to prevent Incuggarch from getting the harbour ended up helping him get it, and generally offered great protection for Incuggarch's naval units. Cheeky move

[@Taenarius]

I'm not so sure Profeta could have pulled it back, that deficit is far too large, and their power is very far off. It doesn't look like there's any real way for them to apply pressure for a few turns which gives Incuggarch a whole extra turn of income on Profeta. The center city is safe, there's only 1 infantry near and there's loads of units covering it, the top is safe, that battleship is a shockingly useful zone of control, and there's nothing close down south that can dislodge a megatank or a black boat. Were there not a time limit, this would still be over.

[@auricanmajere6236]

As a republican I don't appreciate the kings but as a human I wish your king a nice recovery

[@FireLover7004]

Huh, never knew Norway had an interesting founding day. We just blow s@$# up over in the states.

[@MarkJBarret]

Thanks for sharing those small details about Norway! Congrats Norway!

[@kennyholmes5196]

Ah yes, Brunost. Great when thinly sliced over wheat crackers.

[@wassimdarwich5918]

I mean profeta also had close to 70k dead value at the end in those 4 fighters with incugarch having only ground units basically so that might have been a factor in the resignation

[@adrianjsf]

That intro was really cool. I didn't know the national day was such an important day for Norway. Really tense match too

[@spiritreaperrahul]

I’ve seen this match like 2-3 weeks ago. I think go7 covered this one, unless deejus did

[@mobert8266]

we once visited friends in dokka, one of them did au pair on a norwegian dairy farm. and they had some traditional food, where they put different fat like butter and cream and others together with all kinds of cereals to create a very fatty and nutritive slime. they ate that when they went for cutting wood in the winters, so that their bodies get all the energy they need. do you know about this?

[@art-games6230]

I always found it sad that nobody uses carriers too carry aircraft

[@nintandem2119]

You should put Recon-chan in your videos so we can see which Reboot Camp songs she dances in time with.

[@likky1]

that is so cool, i love learning culture i was taking a nap at the time and listening while i did! but hey yeah happy norway day i suppose?

[@TheFinalChapters]

1:47 We also have "not hot dog stands" around every corner in the US :)

[@Reruro]

Just wanted to say I REALLY dig the post-editing work of incorporating the Reboot camp music, please keep doing that!

[@akichan4168]

Did not expect to learn about Norwegian traditions from an Advance Wars video. Thanks mangs!

[@monkeygrip2412]

Happy birthday Norway! We love you!

[@Kenster9197]

wishing King Harald a speedy recovery

[@Krizalid3YE]

So, Mangs, will be the close embodiment of a friend of Javier from Dual Strike, but with a BBQ apron? But Incuggarch building a Max Battleship is just FLEX!

[@Lani_337]

So interesting how similar Norwegian tradition to German (Except we don't have a king)

[@theplop]

But *what* makes them distinct from hotdogs?

[@riri2887]

wow,Bunad is so pretty.I I hope I can get one.❤

[@semioriginalguy]

You are not a pro until you build a max battleship

[@makohidari4723]

today we kearned about Norway Day while Mangs probably spend the day celebrating. incuggarch has some crazy pushes with max force and blast. hard to stand up to that

[@kanrakucheese]

And here I thought the Norwegian national "costume" was a mail shirt, goggle helm and an axe.

[@remideprez2323]

35:19 for Max' Battleship

[@knight_lautrec_of_carim]

Hope you had a great time celebrating!

[@thegoodoldays911]

Learning about other cultures is so fun.

[@ElAsombrosoPachus]

Wait.... so you love your king?!?!

[@skootmeister3994]

Happy Constitution Day Mangs! And best wishes from the States for His Majesty’s speedy recovery.

[@MurtorSH]

Interesting to see the display of pride some countries show which makes me a bit jealous, not gonna lie. I'm from Germany. You won't see us show our pride (mostly only during sports events), even though we also got a national day of celebration: German Unity Day on October 3th. But nothing really special here accept some events in Berlin. I guess the reason why you won't see us waving our flags, show national patriotism and celebrating who we are is this ongoing "guiltiness" for the things in WW2. And in my opinion: It's time to move on (not time to forget. You probably know what I mean).

[@Mangs1337]

Germany is a cool country, and I've liked every German I've ever met. I am of the opinion that you should be allowed to like your country and it's rich history without feeling bad about the sins of the past, which most of you living today had absolutely nothing to do with. Everyone deserves to feel proud of their culture and history.

[@MurtorSH]

@@Mangs1337 Much appreciated, Mangs!

[@Dexterritory212]

happy Norway day^^ wishing the Norway king a speedy recovery

[@stalkerfan86]

Hey Mangs, what's a Norway again?

[@Amalvipls]

the new drake theme sounds AWFUL, HOLY SHIT its like the original theme but with screeching off-key trumpets, please, PLEASE Mangs, just use the original tune

[@Mangs1337]

Disagree, I love it.

[@Amalvipls]

@@Mangs1337 fair enough

[@EverSoPossiblyPat]

My birthday is the 17th of May! Woooo

[@onEmEmbErstudios]

Yes, my man, Incuggarch

[@Badbufon]

you guys have a king? cringe

[@acash93]

Happy Birthday Norway

[@Markm8]

“Goodbye Norway” - jole vinesauce nuking Norway

[@kentmichaelgalang686]

dang, it really be norway day

[@olympusgolemoflight7198]

It's the most glorious return of Sigmax! Mangs in a bunex when?

[@pepelepirate]

Wow I want to go to Norway now.

[@henoldpcllama]

Classic incuggarch

[@beforelifewaschaos]

My brain hurrtz from just looking at this map.. Oh and Happy Birthday Norway ! The traditional clothing reminds me of our own from Bavaria in Germany, and no, Oktoberfest is not it's only purpose xD

[@AtillaTheFun1337]

I mean, Rockets and battleships still have range with Max, less range, but usable range nonetheless. His artillery though? Total paperweights…

[@merabledawnspark5827]

17:00 I think you were referring to preferring Dual Stirke/DoR Cruisers than Black Holr Rising Cruisers, right? AW2's cruisers are really weak x.x

[@nesnalica]

i came for battleship and stayed for Norwegian lore. always love your quirky vids mangs!

[@Eldorriots]

35:20 The title

[@Bobby-ls4sk]

Hey Mangs ! I used to play dual strike a lot when i was younger, so I was happy to discover your channel recently, and discover (again) advance wars I wanted to give a try to the game again so i checked awbw, and saw that there is a ton of games started days or even weeks ago and still going. Are all games like that or can I expect to play some "normal" games ? Otherwise, great content man, I mainly watched replays of pvp streams and commentaries on online games like this one for now, and I like it a lot

[@MisterVercetti]

Come for the Advance Wars Certified Banger™, stay for the interesting lesson on Norwegian history and customs.

[@andregon4366]

Wangs 😏

[@jessepunch8945]

Thank you for the culture lesson!

[@PICADALOL]

Absolute blangeerr!!!

[@SquibbyJ]

Happy belated 17th of May, hope you had a good one by the time you read this. Thank you for sharing something cool with the rest of the world

[@whisper6534]

Up!