Mannimarco EXPLAINED! - Revenant, Lich, Necromancer's Moon - Elder Scrolls Lore

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In our latest Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim video we explain Mannimarco, the most infamous necromancer.
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series, following The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and was released worldwide for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 11, 2011.
The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim. Over the course of the game, the player completes quests and develops the character by improving skills. The game continues the open world tradition of its predecessors by allowing the player to travel anywhere in the game world at any time, and to ignore or postpone the main storyline indefinitely.
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[@youngsage773]

Well skeletons are tireless, loyal free workers so yeah I would probably indulge in the dark arts, I would build an undead building company and become Tamriel number one contractor, maybe open a mining business too.

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

That's a pretty darn good idea. All necromancers always think you have to use your powers for war. Why risk your life when you can just get rich through barley any work?

[@kieranh2005]

And since they're already dead, there's no h&s.

[@Shiningforceking]

sheeet... i day dream daily of doing that. Was thinking about farming industry and security jobs. who would attack a man guarded by undying creatures?

[@Sashi_Mee]

How bout a detective agency to finally track down who keeps stealing sweet rolls and shooting people in the knee

[@Grinnar]

Offer contracts to the living, giving the company full rights to your corpse. Similar to the Dustmen from Sigil (Planescape).

[@lukelblitz3627]

mage 1:so theres this mannimarco guy who is doing a lot of research of forgotten forbidden necromancy,what do mage 2:how about exiling him from our very secluded and confined school of mages to the mainland where he can spread his knowledge to the general populace mage 1:yes

[@TerrariaGolem]

Omg so true.

[@Kirbyroth]

Mage3: well least he not our problem anymore

[@insaincaldo]

Seems to be a bad trend with mages in general. M1 "Hey that guy is doing magic stuff we don't do here, should we stop him?" M2 "Nah, send him away." M1 "Bu.." M2 " I already said I don't wanna see that shit here." M1 "..." M3 "Urrh... that guy established a cult, continued his research and since he came from here, people are kinda mad at us." M1 "Should we do something?" M2 "Send the new guy." Pretty much all instances of mages who went against whatever place of study they were taught at.

[@justinlegrand992]

@@Kirbyroth *He nearly ends the world like 2 times* Mage 3: we fucked up... Real bad

[@cinnamonroll7788]

“The worm reports...success.” AURORAN GOLDEN EAGLE!

[@seanerzat]

SPREEEAD, YOUR WIIIINGS, AU-RO-RAN GOL-DEN EA-GLE!!

[@AlpenSkyWatcher]

*_Spread your wings, Auroran Golden Eagle!_*

[@luxaniel]

*Epic guitar riffs in the background*

[@jeremiahfink6330]

SPREAD YOUR WINGS; AURORAN GOLDEN EAGLE!

[@JaelaOrdo]

“Before my last breath, face I must the tyranny of worms, and kill at last, undeath.” -Vanus Galerion

[@spr_g_follower_2]

Only to fail to accomplish that, and eventually become a decorative zombie thrall wandering about in some cave, controlled by a wannabe pretend Mannimarco, whilst the enemy is now a moon god also i'd like your comment, but it has 69 likes, i can't ruin that

[@Outcrow]

Let’s face it. We all chose the Black Star because grabbing a bandit on the road is so much easier than searching for white grand soul.

[@craig7021]

I play PC so I get the benefit of having both.

[@ninetynein6853]

@@craig7021 Wait what, how does that work i wanna know!! Pls

[@craig7021]

@@ninetynein6853 Console commands. After you pick which one you want from the quest, just add the other via console command.

[@shadowstrider5033]

@@craig7021 Which shouldn't even matter. In the base unmoded game , the Black star is superior to Azura's star. The black star can capture both white and black souls.

[@craig7021]

@@shadowstrider5033 I don't disagree with you but, I still like having both.

[@KingOpenReview]

I wish it was possible to be a dark mage and do quests that involve fighting the regular Mages' Guild.

[@lfinch150]

Like being a part of the worm cult

[@tomswcgameplay3114]

@@lfinch150 exactly like that.

[@MyrahHolmes]

Well you can rp it in eso. Be a necromancer, infiltrate the mages guild to mine them for knowledge, as Manimarco did of the psijic order, make the evil or good choices as befits your character's 'undercover' status as you play through the main story & your alliance's zone story (if you choose to do that) then set him free (although he does seem rather surprised by that lol) and defeat Molag Baal. Outschemed both Vanus Galerion AND the god of schemes indeed ;)

[@drumkommandr9779]

Bet there's a mod for that

[@JohnWhite-ms5wr]

Yeah, but I guess Bethesda hates letting people RP.

[@jefthereaper]

Ah, my favorite character in the lore. I'm still convinced that he never died in Oblivion, as the "Mannimarco" we fought was just a imposter set up by Mannimarco to fake his own death. (getting the heat of the Mages Guild off his back, should his plans fail.) This being obvious as the "Mannimarco" we fought was extremely weak (expert level Necromancer at most) along with his staff being just a ordinary reanimation staff, albeit with a very unique look it was far from powerful compared to other reanimation staves. No I believe the real one is still out there, laughing with joy that even tough his initial plan failed, the Mages Guild still disbanded and split into two lesser groups that are more concerned with fighting each-other then anything else.

[@thnkng]

Gotta love how oblivion turned the lich god of worms into 'High Elf + High_Elf_Voice_1.midi'

[@gilgameshthetreasurehunter2750]

jefthereaper The real mannimarco is probably an Ideal Master. but that's just my guess. either that or he's selling hats and weapons

[@jefthereaper]

Gilgamesh ,the treasure hunter No the Ideal masters existed way before him. They existed at the dawn of time. Whatever they used to be has likely died out at the current point, making them the last but also most powerful of their kind.

[@LordNethesis]

#notmymannimarco

[@jacopomazzo4949]

jefthereaper For how mantling works in TES, The Soul Cairn could simply be another name for the Ravenant's Moon, with Mannimarco becoming "always been a god" back in time once becomed a god, as Vivec did

[@lukelblitz3627]

so....mannimarco was killed three times but never was anyone intelligent enough to destroy the lich's phylactery

[@Kirbyroth]

of course we let him come back to farm him for exp

[@insaincaldo]

Or he works much like a daedra now and just reforms.

[@cursed-dragongaming6798]

No one knows where he hid it but I would say it's in high rock because it's easy to get lost in high rock

[@insaincaldo]

@@cursed-dragongaming6798 And not because that would mean he could likely have a return in the next installment?

[@simone7268]

In TES universe phylactery is only used when performing the ritual, after that it is just an ordinary object as the Lich is no longer connected to it.

[@roderixdekaper]

A lich would be such a great addition for tes6 next to werewolves and vampires. Magic players were always left out with the subclasses.

[@Lord_necromancer]

It's been a while, but if you play on PC you should check out the undeath mod for Skyrim along with its supplementary mods immersive lichdom and classical lichdom. They are amazing lore friendly story driven mods that allow you to become a liche of tremendous power, but don't hold your hand while doing it. It really makes the process of achieving lichdom feel like something you have earned.

[@roderixdekaper]

@@Lord_necromancer true, i do know the mods. But i thought it would be great to achieve lichdom at the end of mage guild questline or something. Or making it really difficult to get the materials, so you can really have the feeling of achievement.

[@Lord_necromancer]

@@roderixdekaper oh yeah for sure. I hope you can in ES6. I have noticed that the games get more and more necromancer friendly as the series goes on, from Morrowind just having some undead summons, to the staff of worms reanimating a corpse in oblivion, to Skyrim having a full branch of the conjuration tree dedicated to it. Since they showed their willing to change what the primary skills are, like getting rid of mysticism and consolidating all weapons into one of three skills instead of a unique one for each weapon, I'm kind of hoping they make necromancies it's own School of magic. Although I know that that is highly unlikely 🥺

[@DjangoFatt]

I love the dark arts, lichdom, necromancy, conjuration etc.

[@FBI-ju5no]

It's how I make all my friends.

[@LoopyLemon775]

There’s always a down side to dark magic.

[@nazeem8085]

Manimarco? Hmm, never seen him at the cloud district😏

[@bloodfiredrake7259]

Die nazeem

[@JaysasterGaming]

Well that's because he is 6 feet under

[@JaysasterGaming]

Done make me make a Razum-dar account

[@Kirbyroth]

that can be arranged

[@ki-td5yb]

Get thee hence.

[@casthelion416]

Fudge is back, 5 video's in 5 days! It can't be better!

[@FudgeMuppet]

Thanks for watching!

[@casthelion416]

@@FudgeMuppet No problem I watch almost everything you guys make, good look finding more video's I didn't watch you 3 made last year than you can count on one hand. you are my most favourite youtube channel, with 78 subscriptions that has to say something

[@dude3661]

FudgeMuppet been watching you since 2016 just cause of the love of the game! Keep pushing out content good sir

[@duncanshaw1256]

@@FudgeMuppet Wouldn't it be neat if the ghost of Mannimarco showed up in Elder scrolls VI? Be neat to have a quest there to finally rid Tammrieil of Mannimarco as a player character once and for all. My character in Skyrim ( an Altmer named Ortaza ) Would not pursue Necromancy to the exterme like Mannimarco. Ortaza would consider such an insane rise to power, ovverrated at best and self destructive at worst.

[@jordanpugh9799]

I'll never forget it. I was playing my usual Khajiit run in Oblivion. When it came time for the end of the mages guild line after all that buildup and waiting I walked up to Mannimarco and obliterated him in three weak punches.

[@MalcontentFlower]

If the Necromancer dies easy...

[@archades115]

I hope Mannimarco resurfaces in ES6. After all, the mortal form we killed in Oblivion was little more than a puppet by that time. I believe it possible he could manifest in a new form later on.

[@Onryo4444]

I was alredy a fan of Mannimarco, but when I saw him in all his elven-beauty-glory at ESO trailer I ended up falling in love. It's funny how those "Lich" like characters always have the same appearance, white long hair, pale skin, charming eyes... Sauron at Shadow of Mordor Karthus Lightsbane at League of Legends The Necromancer at Diablo 2/3 Arthas at Warcraft 3 . I love them all.

[@amalgamation3679]

fr

[@LoopyLemon775]

He’s not supposed to be attractive, realistically he should look like a absolute monstrosity, even in the trailer we can see his skin is rotting and his eyes looking unnatural I dare say undead like, mannimarco was probably once a very attractive high elf with gold skin or green/yellow eyes but then he let the power get to him and overtime became disturbing.

[@wastelandwanderer9491]

Just cos he stole my soul and sent me to Cold Harbour. At least i got to meet Sir Cadwell.

[@kpatelv607]

Wait until you play elsweyr and find out who he really was.

[@numxei547]

@@kpatelv607 Tell me, please

[@kpatelv607]

@@numxei547 He betrayed the Khajiit he was accompanying by murdering them and tried to steal the power of Jode for himself so that he could keep murdering.

[@numxei547]

@@kpatelv607 Oh shit

[@Kirbyroth]

@@numxei547 don't listen to him trusty shovel

[@SilverFang2789]

Black Soul Gems can be made either with the Shade of the Revenant or in the Soul Cairn by placing Grand Soul Gems on the lightning pedestals. What's the connection between the Shade of the Revenant and the Soul Cairn?

[@itsyaboycactus6096]

Both are things you find in game and then never return to those locations

[@Kirbyroth]

Sotha Sil was the one to create the black soul gems wonder if that how he did it

[@Grandsheba]

Theres a shade in the soul carin that stands ontop of the ideal masters gems and watches your randomly. It moves from gem to gem and is pretty creepy. I never knew what it was suppose to be but now it's making more sense.

[@morrigankasa570]

Or just buy them in the college of winterhold

[@SilverFang2789]

@@morrigankasa570 I said made not bought

[@icefyer2]

I quite like the MMO's version of necromancy. Yes, you summon skeletons and all that, but your power is less command of the undead and more control over life force, so you can heal people as well as tear it from people. The MMO's skeletons aren't souls trapped within like a lot of fantasy, but merely skeletons animated by residual life force after the soul's moved on or otherwise pieces of the user's life-force temporarily, like a calcium-built robot.

[@JB-xl2jc]

More like ELFimarco, am I right

[@adeemnazeem8817]

Trueee

[@Julian-vl7vn]

Don't you see? Elven supremacy is the *ONLY* truth!

[@SolaRiStreSS]

Merimarco

[@JaysasterGaming]

This one would not agree.

[@ThrillaWhale]

And not just Mannimarco, but the Womannimarco and Childrennimarco as well.

[@joshuacollins1851]

Staff of Worms = Staff of raise Zombie *Bruh*

[@pilovwithketchup]

More like staff of dead thrall if you download Undeath

[@sebastianyu5383]

Download the mannimarcos staff and circlet mod. Circlet is just the ebony mail in circlet form, garbage. But the staff shoots skulls that trap souls and deal lots of damage while making ghostly screams

[@jjsouls6986]

I just use it to raise mannimarcos corpse. Then walk him back to the mages guild. Oblivion was so fun

[@alexmcd378]

If I were a mage in that world, I don't know if I would have used necromancy, but I definitely would have studied it. It would be a compelling topic for sure. And I've never been convinced by the argument that death be fireball is somehow more humane than death by life drain.

[@Lizardmanprod5]

One thing I hate, is being forced to play the "good guy". I'd love if we had the choice for the alternative, in this instance, to side with Mannimarco.

[@shadowstrider5033]

At least let me defy the mages guild.

[@selestielwolf7949]

@@shadowstrider5033 I only want that if I get the ability that let's me read all the books I have found in my inventory. That's the only reason I even join the mages guild.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

Play Daggerfall.

[@bebo2629]

You can help him in Daggerfall and you can offer him your help in Oblivion, but he does not want it. He is your murderer in The Elder Scrolls Online and your personal enemy, so it is just logical that you want him dead, but you still have the option to free him from Molag Bal in the end of the game.

[@ShadowProject01]

Lizardemus agreed I’ve been dying for Bethesda to make the Order of the Black Worm a playable guild. Need a dark fighters guild too

[@brandonmiller6043]

I really wish they had done more with Mannimarco in the single player games. They could have built SUCH a great storyline with him, better than they did in ESO. He's a deep character and I feel he deserved better.

[@peryite9979]

Brandon Miller he was the main antagonist of es2

[@brandonmiller6043]

@@peryite9979 I know, but it still didn't feel like they were doing him justice. Which might be because Daggerfall is so old, but he just seemed like *insert generic, powerful lich here*

[@LordMortanius]

@@peryite9979 I'm relatively certain he had nothing to do with Dagger fall's plot until Morgiah asked him to step in.

[@Subderhenge]

The battle with Manimarco in Oblivion was kind of anticlimactic. At higher levels you can just wipe the floor with him.

[@Hopalongtom]

And lower levels... had to be an imposter... or suisidal in his old age!

[@thnkng]

Seriously. Lich god of worms. And he has the same fucking voice as *every high elf?*

[@callumtorrance9180]

CANT WAIT TILL U GUYS HIT 1M, BEEN WITH YOU SINCE UNDER 50K! ITS BEEN A GREAT JOURNEY ABOUT TAMERIEL!

[@aran.m977]

Soon it's done

[@James_Wisniewski]

Basically, Mannimarco is the Dio Brando of the Elder Scrolls universe, and Galerion is the Jonathan Joestar.

[@Prodigi50]

This is... strangely accurate.

[@angeloabbatiello4755]

NPC #001876594 how bizarre...

[@Toni-lo9ms]

ora ora ora ora ora

[@Mia-xq8sq]

Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda

[@Mia-xq8sq]

Oh you’re approaching me

[@seekerofgnosis7967]

I see fudgemuppet video for manimarco, I click on video.

[@tahszn_]

In my opinion being a necromancer in eso was pretty fun and i can see why mannimarco did what he did

[@bestkill6888]

It would be really cool if in the Elder Scrolls, we could play as a good or bad guy and were given more choices. Being able to play as a super powerful Necromancer with a larger, fleshed out, Conjuration/Necromancy tree could be really cool with some epic dark magic.

[@Kanuui-]

Definitely would be necessary. I am sick and fucking tired of playing a shitty 'kinda' necromancer. And don't even let me start with the whole vampire thing. Yeah okay, vampires practice necromancy so it is lore friendly, I get that but why the fffffuuuuck does bethesda not implement lichdom?! A necromancer most and formost doesn't really want to achieve vampirism. He wants to achieve lichdom because that is fucking badass, a vampire kind of is too but not really because the trope was ruined by twilight. Fuck that movie

[@Gatrehs]

@@Kanuui- I assume you have found mods so solve this issue or no?

[@Kanuui-]

@@Gatrehs Sort of I guess. Undeath is a really good questmod for lichdom, but i'd love to have something like dawnguard, just for lichdom. A massive, good designed badass questline that revolves around lichdom. Now that'd be incredible. And I'd simply like something more official, if that makes sense.

[@Gatrehs]

@@Kanuui- Yeah makes sense. I actually had a really cool idea for a necromancer-related mod, but it wouldn't really be a lore thing about how you become a necromancer. But would introduce a town that made use of necromancy to take care of the more peasant things like farming, mining, cheap labor etc and the populace thriving because of it. Having more artisans and researchers and especially necromancers. Would be great for both people that believe themselves to be righteous and want to destroy the foul necromancers and necromancers who want a town they'd be accepted in. that said, I agree with you that undeath, while cool seems to be missing something. I know there's a mod where you slowly turn into a lich over a questline ( www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73141 ) but overall it feels like it's missing something.

[@Kanuui-]

@@Gatrehs I remember such a mod being in oblivion, if I am not mistaken. You could become the owner of that necromantic, underground town, after killing the necromancer that wanted to possess your body. It was really damn cool.

[@mylesdrake2949]

Who wouldn't want an army that complete ignores fatigue and logistics that also never breaks due to morale? Also being undead yourself takes all the suck out of living, no longer needing to eat, sleep, breath, or drink is a huge boon.

[@doublewidesuprise5208]

Mannimarco when observing the dragonborn practicing necromancy/conjuration by spamming soul trap spell on a dead body: 😐

[@NephRainbows]

The conjuration spells are my favourite, especially since the Dawnguard DLC, so yeah, I'd totally be a necromancer, as long as I could practice as I saw fit.

[@oscardyrvig4380]

I would like to share my view of the Mannimarco we all meet in Oblivion. I am of the belief that the king of worms we defeat in Oblivion is in fact the powerful and immortal Mannimarco but a puppet of him. Now i have several reasons to believe this, but i will write some of them: 1. In Daggerfall the King of Worms sways the Mantella to his own will and ascends to godhood, this is how powerful he is. 2. A lich would be extremely difficult to kill, nigh on impossible, and that's the normal kind not the first and most powerful one. 3. The way he acts and looks is not close to what we saw in Daggerfall, this just looks like a normal Altmer, not a lich, plus he doesn't act completely like an all powerful king and necromancer, but the speech about good and evil (also from the start of the video) is something the Worm-King would say. I mean this is just the biggest of my points (if you just take a picture of Mannimarco from Daggerfall and compare him with the one from Oblivion you'll see a big difference). But i also a crazy fan theory: Alright so if we assume the Mannimarco we meet in Oblivion is just a puppet of the real King of Worms. And the real Mannimarco is somehow "working with"(?) the Revenant (a god version of himself, as you know) and we assume the Revenant is Omniscient that means that the real King of Worms could orchestrate an attack on the mages guild with someone claiming to be him, that would draw attention. Now this is here where is gets a bit crazy, if we assume that the revenant told the King of Worms (or somehow communicated with him) about the champion of Kvatch would be the new arch-mage and then disappear, which would leave the mages guild in some self destruction, then the King of Worms could just send his minions to Cyrodiil with one claiming to be him to draw attention, then the Champion of Kvatch comes along kills the puppet, disappears and leaves the mages guild in self destruction. And he's revenge is done. So do anyone else think this is possible? Because i believe the thing about Mannimarco in Oblivion being a puppet to the real King of Worms, but i just like my theory.

[@Summerinnovember]

Too long didn’t read:to answer your question wrap in the west happened, events that happened happened but at the same time they didn’t happen. There are two versions of mannimarco One that ascended to god hood and became the shade of the revenant And one that didn’t succeed and remained on Tamriel

[@gamingweeb2-842]

Mannimarco is the ideal high elf He achieved his race’s goal of shedding their mortal form and ascending to godhood, reversing Lorkhan’s trickery of his descendants An absolute role model of a high elf. The only other high elf who can claim to be such a role model of the race, is the Oblivion protagonist (if they were a high elf)for mantling the prince of madness

[@LoopyLemon775]

I don’t know, He’s probably forever a slave to molag bal, and if we know anything about high elves is that becoming a slave to such abominations wouldn’t be ideal not to mention mannimarco had to lose his altmer Beauty in order to get to god hood, he realistically looks like a abomination, we can see it in the trailer his skin looks rotted and eyes look almost undead, I would think many altmer would probably look down on mannimarco?

[@KyrilTheBreaker]

All undead shall be laid to rest by Meridia's Cleansing Light!

[@Julian-vl7vn]

*A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON*

[@shadowstrider5033]

The prince of domination dislikes this.

[@The_Marine708]

@@Julian-vl7vn *Listen. Hear me and obey. A foul darkness has seeped into my temple.*

[@thnkng]

Meridia's beacon is the one thing you don't want to get from a claw machine.

[@pilovwithketchup]

Meridia is but a weakling compared to our God, Mannimarco!

[@stoneron2]

"The way of the neck romance" 😏

[@joking_oregon1]

When the hero of daggerfall activated the numidium, the dragon break known as the warp in the west caused all possibilities to come true, one of those possibilities is Mannimarco ascending to godhood so therefore Mannimarco shouldn't be truly dead in Oblivion, there's still his ascended form. Therefore Mannimarco lives.

[@dominiqueminor8039]

Never trust an elf with man in his name

[@gilgamesh68]

So he’s the Voldemort of elder scrolls 😂

[@jacopomazzo4949]

Gilgamesh p much. except that Manni would wipe the floor with Voldemort, Dumbledore and Grindelwald combined (I love HP, I reallt do, but mages in tes are enourmously more powerful than hp mages. Neloth could be Voldemort, Mannimarco wouldn't even sweat)

[@LadySnowfaerie]

I dunno, he never had the idea that magic should be reserved for only the select few. I would call him the Raistlin Majere of Elder Scrolls, tho. A powerful, intelligent mage (and a scathing, sarcastic, cynical bastard) whose desire for power led him down a dark path to eventual ascension. :D

[@zakl940]

@@jacopomazzo4949 while I completely agree with you, if a harry potter wizard used their powers in the right way I feel like they would be quite powerful.maybe Not divayth fyr or neloth or psijic powerful, but savos aren powerful. The killing curse is an instant one shot to anything if it lands, meaning if it was used in the elder scrolls it would automatically be the most powerful combat spell and it can be Spammed easily, crucio is useless, the imperious curse would also be a powerful spell compared to lots of illusion spells in the elder scrolls universe. Apparition would automatically give you better movement than all the mages who can't teleport freely, which is quite a lot because Mark and recall spells aren't as good as apparition because it's limited to one location at a time, you can't immediately teleport to morrowind then black Marsh then skyrim like you would with apparition so unless you can teleport otherwise apparition gives you an advantage. Harry potter mages would be limited by the fact that only voldemort can fly, but they can just use items to fly. Against things like armies of the undead, reality warping magic, or special powers like the th'uum, Harry Potter mages would probably not stand a chance, but I feel like the average Harry Potter wizard would beat the average elder scrolls mage by a long shot.

[@jakobrenner2230]

Except that Manni succeeded where Voldy failed.

[@ioanmilenov5231]

I much prefer atromancy. Atronachs stink less and look way cooler in my opinion. It’s also nice that people don’t seem to mind it as much as necromancу. They can probably be used in cool ways too, like bind a flame atronach to a forge and use it to enchanted the flames and so on.

[@xafierah]

Video idea: would Mannimarco have been worse, better, or about the same as Molag Bal had he succeeded in dethroning/replacing him in ESO?

[@LordMortanius]

Mannimarco would have been a different kind of evil. It's unlikely that he would have held on to Bal's most infamous moniker, but he would have been more of a malevolent scholar's god, encouraging profane and terrible acts in the name of knowledge. Or he could have simply been subsumed by Bal's mantle and simply become Molag Bal.

[@spr_g_follower_2]

i know you said a video idea, but i feel Molag Bal is worse. I dont see Mannimarco raping people

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

@@LordMortanius Judging from how the hero of kvatch acts like Sheogorath is Skyrim, he probably would have been like Molag, tho he likely would lean more towards evil knowledge seeking which I can imagine would make him interested in the knowledge within apocrypha.

[@AdmiralAwsm]

Personally, I don't see Necromancy as being that much different from Restoration magic. They both deal with knitting life and death together, and indeed could be considered two sides of the same coin. In the Elder Scrolls the magic schools (depending on the game) almost seem to work in pairs, and one of the in game books even talks about how Destruction and Alteration magic are not dissimilar.

[@David_Alvarez77]

Necromancy is only sort of like restoration in that it is the exact opposite of restoration. It is like its dark shadow, being more like restoration than any other type of magic but only because it negates and reverses everything restoration does. It is not the other side of the coin. It like how thievery is sort of like labor or entrepreneurship: while honest work generates values and wealth, thievery steals them and generates nothing.

[@AdmiralAwsm]

@@David_Alvarez77 that's literally what "opposite side of the coin" means

[@cursed-dragongaming6798]

There's one lore book of a mage witch used destruction for healing

[@morrgash]

This is so exciting, i loved this character in ESO and would love to see him again :D

[@Yorabasura]

Your channel and podcast are life rn! Been tryna get back into eso plus kinds "role-play" and you guys been an amazing help! Please never stop making videos!

[@TheStrudelJonny]

If I were mannimarco, I would’ve hunted down kagrenac’s tools and used them on the heart of lorkihan to obtain more power than even the tribunal

[@vonfaustien3957]

I see a minor issue with that as he'd either have to fight past thw tribunal or dagoth ur for acess and both would kick his ass six ways to sunday

[@sircrimsonwolf7492]

The Dark arts such as Necromancy and other forms of magic is simply power. If one can truly master all forms of magic than this individual is on the path of immortality and godhood. With the Heart of Lorkhan and the Eye of Magnus and the right locations and the right artifacts one could surpass godhood and become truly invincible and unstoppable as well as all powerful.

[@Summerinnovember]

You said a whole bunch of nothing thinking you said something.

[@owenwildish331]

While doing the Mage Guild questline in Oblivion I managed to Soul Trap Mannimarco into a Black Soul Gem using my Mage's Soul Trap Staff, which was ironically funny...

[@SerathDarklands]

Speaking of liches, can you please do a video on Barilzar? Creator of the Mazed Band and apprentice to Sotha Sil?

[@dew21news35]

There is Mannimarco the Man who committed to Molag Bal and walked on Nirn, and there is Mannimarco the God who came to be in Aetherius as the God of Necromancy. Essentially he is Vivec; Vec the man and Vec the God. Upon the Warp in the West, he achieved what Vivec had. Both also oddly have a relation with Molag Bal. He achieved CHIM whereas the player had Zero Summed. It takes great will to acknowledge ones existence in the dreamscape, and Mannimarco surely would be capable of doing the such whereas a lone individual may not.

[@FirstLast-gk6lg]

The story of Mannimarco is basically my ideal Eldar Scrolls play-through, I want an undead army to conquer the world with

[@FBI-ju5no]

Meh, I'd go for the godhood. World conquest is too much work, with not enough reward.

[@FirstLast-gk6lg]

@@FBI-ju5no oh agreed on Godhood for sure. If you are not immortal than conquest is just a waste of time

[@lordsprietsma228]

My favorite part of elder scrolls lore-Mannimarco

[@thenerdydwarf2725]

Just curious, but why no images of ESO Mannimarco?

[@bestkill6888]

They don't like ESO, don't know why.

[@vexile12]

They view eso as not canonical (probably because its an mmo and they are bad at that genre)

[@hereticalhermit8148]

I think Mannimarco isn't meant to be dubbed the first ever lich, but literally the first "undying lich", as in he went straight from life to, well, unlife. Instead of transferring his soul into his own corpse first like the Ayleids, or Hourglass Bro from Oblivion, he ascended in a different way, during battle against Vanus and his mages, without death first as far as we know. Possibly why he doesn't have a rotted appearance? That could also be attributed to like, friggin magic though. Could be completely wrong I always thought the undying part was super important for some reason.

[@frontierbrainrobby5449]

Can we get a Lich build for SSE?

[@jayr8632]

Yes, this 😍

[@frontierbrainrobby5449]

@@jayr8632 if you haven't experimented with it yet, try the Undeath mod ;) it gives you a beast form that lets you turn into a Lich/Dragon Priest

[@frontierbrainrobby5449]

@@onetwo-gt8wi I know, but I want them to remaster it haha

[@Gatrehs]

@@frontierbrainrobby5449 Ì mean you can't become a lich but you certainly can have an infinitely big undead army.

[@chubbibear5594]

I love your guy's lore videos.

[@adambattaglia2492]

The rise and fall of Mannimarco sounds like an amazing TV mini series or something. Ultimate anime arc, anyone?

[@Rodiacreed]

Guys congrats on 800k. You more than deserve it. Hope you reach 1 mil before the year is done. :)

[@lanehanna4777]

Being able to throw undead damage spounges at my foes is amazingly effective, necromancy mods are a must

[@Brahmdagh]

In ESO I saw Manimarco being badly tortured in Cold Harbor. So I released him. I was playing to follow that with a quick decapitation. Kill him immidiatly. But game never gave me the chance and he ran away laughing. I felt very bad. Can't even load save games in ESO. So yeah. I am sorry, it was all my fault. Later I learn about his lore in other games. And I felt even terrible.

[@Kirbyroth]

he would got out anyways but if you feel bad bout the choice you made in a quest you can abandoned it and redo it choosing a diff option

[@Brahmdagh]

@@Kirbyroth it had been done and done for 3-4 years now :)

[@BlueGhostofSeaside]

I felt pity for him despite everything he did and released him oof

[@scottlette]

Thanks for these regular videos, FM. These lore videos not only save a lot of reading but also collate the existing lore to make a palatable sense. So, bravo!

[@izzy0052]

I think Mannimarco is one of the main reasons why men hate elves, like that nord apprentice in the college of Winterhold, Nords don't like magic because elves are magic users.

[@LordMortanius]

Nords were members of the Mages Guild and had a Witch-Queen as late as the Third Era. Mannimarco had nothing to do with the recent antipathy, since he really doesn't give a hoot about Skyrim.

[@JaysasterGaming]

I made my vestage and dragonborn related with their on personalities. Shadow the Vestage was the Khajiit who helped and used the amulet of kings power, so I writen if off as canon that Shadow the Mercenary picked up Shadow due to him liking hus ancient ancestor's name Shadow, so he uaes it. He didn't know the Vestage using the amulet would infuse his blood to make him Dovakiin, if was Destiny for the Vestage to defeat molag bol with the amulet. I hope you like my spin on the lore, and hope it sparks sone creativity.

[@JaysasterGaming]

Shadow the Dragonborn didn't not he had powers unitil The Tower of Whierun Incident.

[@silas6597]

*wakes up to see an alert for a new fudgemuppet video* NOICE

[@invinciblereason1618]

Always been fascinated by mannimarco as a character and his entire story. The daedric princes are cool and all but you gotta respect someone who tries to literally replace the god of domination and actually survives. Achieves lichdom, ascended to godhood, has an entire order dedicated to following him... hell, just make him the 18th daedric prince at this point. Give him a rivalry with with molag bal, daedric princes seem to be pretty obsessed with that so he's already off to a good start. Daedric prince of the dead. Sounds like a decent title to me. Have him invade the soul cairn and overthrow the ideal masters or something so he gets his own plane of oblivion. I think he deserves some more love in the lore and i would like to see his character evolve more with upcoming games.

[@dashie1420]

That would be cool! Although from what I’m guessing on his type of divinity, as he gained unlimited power he slowly lost any sense of agency to use it like the divines or Talos, sorta like how CHIM detaches anyone who’s achieved it from the world

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

Would it make sense for him to be titled the daedric prince of death, undeath, and necromancy.

[@darkgerry92]

Really wish I could get a podcast style lore videos on Spotify. Seriously it would be dope especially since I usually try to listen to fictional history that has me more invested than the history of my own country

[@junkyardsanta8814]

Look up Elder Scrolls Lorecast

[@maartensaueressig8215]

Nice video. as always!

[@devinnall2284]

I could've sworn I read somewhere that Mannimarco achieved CHIM which is how he ascended into a god same as Talos

[@wiibrockster]

Mannimarco should play a role in The Elder Scrolls six. Maybe a group of Necromancers trying to reform The Worm Cult? If done right it could be pretty intresting.

[@warhammeronlinenut]

I'm hoping to play a Mannimarco build next in Skyrim with a few mods. Should look really good.

[@JadedWarlock]

I'm not saying being a necromancer is right but what I am saying is that on the battlefield having an instant army is nice.

[@Ashock88]

Love all the videos this week! It’s the best surprise

[@Khaos_Kazuka]

I was always sad that you couldn't join the Black Worms. I always love playing as a evil and sadistic Necromancer who's only "saving" the world so I can experiment and reanimate powerful beings, sadly to get the ultimate feeling of it I have to resort to mods.

[@abattlecatfromakavir]

I wouldn't exactly say "saving" the world, more like, putting it under new management.

[@argon2423]

For the Lich King... wait a min... For the Scourge?? Idk... WAAAAAGGHHHHH!!!!

[@tinolano]

In my first playthrough of Oblivion I was really hyped for the final confrontation with Mannimarco only to have him drown himself...

[@jeepeedurocher]

Mannimarco Oblivion: 💀👀 Mannimarco ESO: 👁🫦👁

[@COctagons]

I wonder if Mannimarco's apotheosis came about from him achieving Chim, and being able to exist in a state neither alive, nor dead, nor undead, ascending much the same way Tiber Septim did? Perhaps that is how he can literally be in two places and forms at once, where all other things ultimately yield one result or other. Given his insane amount of knowledge, both general and arcane, and his intellect, it's not too absurd to estimate that he did what so few can accomplish.

[@the_dropbear4392]

No

[@legoman1800]

I wish I had this video when I was doing and working on my Skyrim D&D game.

[@jacobbagnall2915]

Would i try Necromancy ? It would be very tempting . Awesome video FudgeMuppet !

[@Kirbyroth]

in ESO you can do just that

[@odd-eyes6363]

I don’t think Manimarco truly ascended, because even though all timelines happened simultaneously after the Dragon Break was done the final fate of the people was cohesive. The same way the hero can’t be alive and dead at the same time the fact that Manimarco’s body remained is somewhat proof that he couldn’t retain his godhood once time stabilized, but the memories of apotheosis remained, causing confusion among his people

[@KanonHara]

Why can't the hero be alive and dead at the same time? I mean, no one would tell the difference. We have the necromancers moon... and we have all the other simultaneous events of the dragon break.

[@the_dropbear4392]

The fact that he is present and the necromancers moon has notible effects, and it didn't exist before says otherwise. The guy in Oblivion was likley just a necromancer using Mannimarcos name

[@Pr0m3th3us]

Jup I definitley would try Necromancy. Mannimarco is one of my absolute favorites in the lore and because of that it makes my a bit sad to say that but: In Skyrim Necromancy sucks, because it's basically reduced to reanimate corpse for x amount of time. I think the Necromancer class in ESO does the whole theme far better.

[@StoneOfChaos7]

ESO Necromancer is not that great. The whole kit seems like a normal mage kit but with a "death skin". Look at flaming skull, at this point it's just a glorified fireball. Your main damage summon is literally a skeleton that just commit suicide by exploding on enemies. I don't really blame the devs because summon classes are always hard to balance, especially in multiplayer games. But, my necromancer fantasy was not really satisfied with ESO's necromancer... Reanimation in Skyrim is a cool feature. You ACTUALLY raise dead people instead of spawning them from nowhere.

[@charlotterobson8249]

I kind of wonder how a war between mannimarco and nagash would go.

[@Grandsheba]

Oh fuck this makes so much sense now!!!! Oh shit what a huge Easter egg in skyrim! That shade standing ontop of the giant ideal masters when you're far away from them is manimarco!? I always sold the necromancers amulet but maybe I was suppose to wear it in the soul carin. Thanks yo great video!

[@thecomedygamingnetwork261]

Damn i never realized Mannimarcos story spanned across eso AND oblivion

[@daniel14698]

and Daggerfall

[@ObsidianAngiris]

Hell after learning that through necromancy it's possible to drain the power of a Deadric prince I'd definitely get involved in it! I'd use that power alot like the tribunal did but with my added parts, build a powerful empire, protect my people etc etc

[@favlilnap]

He has such a cool name

[@placeholdername3818]

Talking about Manamarco. Shows a bunch of pictures of skyrim undead.

[@thenerdydwarf2725]

Ikr.

[@dadshirt6681]

So annoying

[@polarspacepoint2399]

My favorite character in Elder Scrolls. Actually the best and coolest guy.

[@somevictor5110]

Ever tried ESO?You can litteraly remake mannimarco there(there's even his outfit) plus expirence his story and be a necromancer

[@kelwdavicuddui5677]

I'd definitely become a Necromancer. Try to steal all my money will ya? Guess whose gonna spend their afterlife serving me now. hahaha

[@MasterOfCydonia]

As a devoted follower of Meridia, no matter what I always try to rid the world of the Undead.

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmfood]

Elder scrolls gameplay: hee hee hoo dragon Elder scrolls lore: ok so essentially there's this several thousand year old dude who turned himself into a magic zombie and then a god, but he also didn't turn into a god - no not one or the other like he's both at once

[@ShadowFox10587O]

I would use it I wouldn't go as far down the rabbit hole as he did but imagine having a bunch of undead minions to clean the house do the laundry and a bunch of other stuff you don't want to do leaving you free to do whatever you want

[@yes.elevens3688]

It’s the worm guy, worm guy He did the thing, probably killed at least 7.67 people He had bony bois and fleshy bois He also kind of can’t die, that’s pretty cool

[@frontierbrainrobby5449]

Finally!!!

[@soulesssantos6x608]

I would of liked Mannimarco if he didn't rob Vanus body as one his vessels and disrespected their rivalry.

[@agooddaytorespawn57]

Power huh... is Mannimarco the Vergil of Elder Scrolls?

[@joeypeddy7290]

Necromancy is love necromancy is life

[@ianwatkins3480]

In eso my main is a necro vamp modelled after mannimarco

[@junkyardsanta8814]

In my mage playthrough I would use necromancy, but only to blast them into cinders as soon as they were raised in order to prevent true necromancers from being able to use the bodies

[@insaincaldo]

Till you can disintegrate your foes?

[@tyx8898]

Hey Fusgemuppet. Is there a single character in Skyrim that a voice actor did? Like a lot of voices are reused in the game for multiple characters. Is there a single character that is unique enough to be the only character a voice actor played?

[@elite_rock_god2292]

Mannimarco might just be truly immortal... he is awesome!