MANTLE OF BATTLE HARMONY Small Buff, Big Improvement!!

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Ironworker Gaming

Ironworker Gaming

Күн бұрын

In this video we'll be taking a look at the Warlock Exotic Chest Piece, Mantle of Battle Harmony. Historically, this has not been my favorite exotic, but one small change in The Final Shape has it feeling so much better in my opinion! Enjoy! 🍻
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Time Stamps
0:00 MoBH In The Final Shape
1:15 Damage Buff
2:12 Super Cooldown Testing
6:56 Performance Thoughts

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@j.robertjoseph8690
@j.robertjoseph8690 24 күн бұрын
Still the best breakdowns especially for older exotics. Keep up the great work!
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
I really appreciate that man! 😁🍻
@DFH02
@DFH02 24 күн бұрын
two tailed fox try not to get nerfed into the ground challenge (impossible)
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
Hahaha! Just when things were looking up for it too....😅🍻
@dmark_
@dmark_ 24 күн бұрын
shit lasted a couple of days man
@emberarashi1987
@emberarashi1987 23 күн бұрын
Can someone explain how it got nerfed? And the facet too since I think I use it
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
@@emberarashi1987 When paired together, the Fragment allowed Two-Tailed to reload instantly every time a volley landed with no cooldown. Now that Facet of Command has an 11 second cooldown applied to it, the funs over. 😅👍
@emberarashi1987
@emberarashi1987 23 күн бұрын
@@IronworkerGaming jeez…they killed the gun
@saquial
@saquial 24 күн бұрын
Time to pull Ager Scepter out of the vault, nothing’s gonna stop the freeze beam!
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
MoBH and Ager's really is a fantastic combo!! 👍🍻
@arnifenrenso2940
@arnifenrenso2940 24 күн бұрын
Now if only we could get osmosis on bad juju.
@NEWGHOST9
@NEWGHOST9 24 күн бұрын
Honestly that would be rlly fun, love me the bad juju would love if we could get osmosis would make it work great with the nezerecs sin and now mantle of battle harmory, i wonder if any of the pale heart weapons get thresh.. usually a useless perk but might make this even sillier in this case
@rickyruiz2135
@rickyruiz2135 24 күн бұрын
And also an aoe perk, supposedly after a lot of kills bad juju has an aoe dmg, but they should just make it that when string of curses is at max that it procs or something like that
@hooky17
@hooky17 23 күн бұрын
You can use any of the new exotics and they stack with the Dealers Choice weapons. And afaik they do about the same as Thresh when there are 3 equipped. Khvostov, Microcosm, Still Hunt and Ergo Sum all count towards the stacking super return from Dealers Choice. If you look at the trait description it says “Weapons that drop from the Pale Heart” not just weapons that have the trait
@J.Starkweather
@J.Starkweather 23 күн бұрын
I would like this as an option. Bad Juju can be pretty fun with Chromatic Fire. Change up the perks and give BJ three perks to choose from: Osmosis, Permeability or Precision Instrument.
@ske7chin478
@ske7chin478 24 күн бұрын
Love your breakdowns, gives the best data driven conclusions! I’m using MBH in a ‘1 shot’ build on prismatic too, but with parasite for giggles
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
Thank you very much, and I really appreciate the support! I've never tired Parasite with MoBH, but that sounds like it could be a ton of fun! I'm gonna have to give that a try! 😂🍻
@Seth.In.Phoenix
@Seth.In.Phoenix 23 күн бұрын
Appreciate all your work. This is very interesting. I do like Mantle of Battle Harmony and I did see that they removed the kill cool down but I like how you did all the testing.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Thank you very much! I was exited when Bungie announced the removal off the cooldown, and I'm really happy with how things panned out! I hope that you're able to put the info to good use! 😁🍻
@Kermie_Frogman
@Kermie_Frogman 24 күн бұрын
Mantle with prismatic, song of flame, and weapons that have Dealer's Choice makes for super gains faster than using Bad Juju at full stacks by almost double. I've been getting supers using No Hesitation for add clear in less than 30 seconds.
@hooky17
@hooky17 23 күн бұрын
Worth noting it’s not just Dealers Choice weapons but any weapons from the Pale Heart. That includes any of the Exotics from TFS. Khvostov, Microcosm, Still Hunt and Ergo Sum all count
@ShaoShaoMienshao
@ShaoShaoMienshao 9 күн бұрын
@@hooky17 Do they really? I know the non-exotic Khvostov has Dealer's Choice, but do the Exotics have the perk as a hidden intrinsic?
@hooky17
@hooky17 9 күн бұрын
@@ShaoShaoMienshao in hindsight. I was misinformed. It appears only a few do. I was misinformed. Khvostov is one. But so is Ace of Spades. I don’t believe the others do. Sorry for the wrong info
@Travige57
@Travige57 23 күн бұрын
Damn I love your work on these videos. 😊
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Thank you very much! 😁👍
@EepyGirlLava
@EepyGirlLava 12 күн бұрын
mental health has been terrible lately and I haven't been on much, even tho I've wanted to, but I'm still saving vids like this for when I come back, I remember loving mantle so I cant wait to watch this later, thx
@griqs
@griqs 15 күн бұрын
Thats insane, lmao. Imagine in onslaught or anything similar. This gives a ton of super energy and kind of alleviates some other factors with specific subclasses. idk if this is spread to the other classes but its pretty lit. will keep an eye out for it for surges too.
@paulwilliams4955
@paulwilliams4955 22 күн бұрын
Been using exotic class item with spirit of Harmony and Apotheosis with 2 Pale Heart weapons; it’s crazy. Song of Flames on rotation with extra grenades and melees at the end. Epic ad clear and strong DPS and survivability. As always, love your content 😊
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 22 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot man! It really is crazy how quickly you can get your super back up with Battle Harmony and these Pale Heart weapons! 😁👍
@bootlesswhale1318
@bootlesswhale1318 23 күн бұрын
Great breakdown!
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Thank you very much! I'm glad that you enjoyed it! 👍🍻
@headshotninja21
@headshotninja21 23 күн бұрын
Pre TFS Mantle was 3% over 3 seconds it was non refreshable so that was the cooldown timer too. Still pre TFS it was my most used warlock exotic, the super bump was enough to put it on par with phoenix protocol if you could slay out hard enough and the 4x surge was a great bonus
@jlandejr
@jlandejr 23 күн бұрын
Never thought I'd take off Nezarecs but high key I love Mantle. Graviton or Wavesplitter and fragments/artifact mods that buff nova bomb is just unmatched. Gonna be hard to take off when I get that Osmiomancy/Veritys bond roll! Even if I haven't taken the thing off since TFS started, still learned something new so appreciate the breakdown!
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
You're very welcome, and I'm right there with you! Nezarec's has been glued to my head for a very long time! Seeing how well MoBH is performing currently, I don't want to unequip it! 😅🍻
@oldroptop7579
@oldroptop7579 24 күн бұрын
Hell yeah, good stuff
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
😁👍🍻
@nealeade5783
@nealeade5783 21 күн бұрын
Kept confidence hand cannon with enhanced thresh 😮
@maxwelllogan-fx7xq
@maxwelllogan-fx7xq 23 күн бұрын
Quality vid as always
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Thank you very much man! 👍🍻
@ozzysmith2571
@ozzysmith2571 13 күн бұрын
Coming back to say this is great. Ended up leaning into this entirely last night. Running threadlings nade arcane needle, Needlestorm. Then running The Call, Tessellation, Promemoria. It's all strand and there's 2 dealer choice weapons. I'm getting Needlestorm SO FAST
@joshuasmith6909
@joshuasmith6909 21 күн бұрын
In a similar vein, Nighthawk + Bad Juju slaps. Nothing quite like running Golden Gun like it’s a pocket rocket.
@saladgaming4339
@saladgaming4339 23 күн бұрын
Best part of battle harmony is it's on the class item too so you can pair this with inmost light or apotheosis, it's great
@piratehunterreviews9958
@piratehunterreviews9958 24 күн бұрын
It lets me use me spicy new solar super very often. Yea i knew i was gonna be a fan lol even in lightfall it was fun running mantle with tommys matchbook. Restoration ×2 and do your best titan impression as a warlock until you get your super then use it or get the damge boost on top of tommys damage boost when ramped up. Fun stuff
@Pickles69696
@Pickles69696 23 күн бұрын
such a well done video, instant sub from me👍
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Thank you very much! I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed the vid, and I really appreciate the subscription! Welcome to the channel! 😁🍻
@J.Starkweather
@J.Starkweather 23 күн бұрын
Oh I am gonna have fun with this! Theres gonna be Threadlings EVERYWHERE 😂
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Hahaha! The never ending barrage of Needle Storms! 😅🍻
@Hydravine
@Hydravine 24 күн бұрын
Ive been running MoBH with Final Warning on prismatic warlock, its cracked
@0pheli0n
@0pheli0n 23 күн бұрын
Ive got a build rn that uses the class item w spirit of apotheosis & harmony, & the call & no hesitation for dealers choice. Very fun build for onslaught, had a run where I got around 900+ kills and made near 400 orbs. Pair that with Power Preservation & EVERYONE GETS A SUPER WOOO
@0pheli0n
@0pheli0n 23 күн бұрын
Forgot to mention i use song of flame & was getting my super back every single round
@eliteslayer66
@eliteslayer66 24 күн бұрын
I main warlock and love testing random things i normally wouldnt use. Super focused exotics being that, but also its generally not an exciting one. But a couple weeks ago i was super excited to combo the dealers choice guns with it and its super nice. I run it with no hesitation and solar obviously. I think Battle harmony used to not have a cooldown but later on they added one? I'm unsure but people used to combo it with agers scepter. I wish Bad juju was better.
@colinmx.
@colinmx. 24 күн бұрын
Woah
@turd0420
@turd0420 23 күн бұрын
Was using this pre final shape, the removal of cooldown on super gain is a huge change. I definitely have to try the pale heart combo
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
It really was a great to see it go. It was such a small tweak, but did the exotic a ton of good! 👍🍻
@hooky17
@hooky17 23 күн бұрын
Worth noting it’s not just Dealers Choice weapons but any weapons from the Pale Heart. That includes any of the Exotics from TFS. Khvostov, Microcosm, Still Hunt and Ergo Sum all count
@TragicChaosx
@TragicChaosx 23 күн бұрын
Hey brother! Love the video as always! Keep up the amazing content!🍻 we definitely need to play together sometime!
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Always great to hear from you, and the support is always appreciated! Feel free to reach out anytime! It's not too often that I get to play the game "for fun" but I can usually find a little bit of time! 😁🍻
@lord_of_flames7861
@lord_of_flames7861 23 күн бұрын
When I played the legend campaign I paired this with a thresh dead messager. I had my super just about every minute.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
That's awesome! I must say, it is really nice being able to use your super like its a general ability! 😂🍻
@algernardzyerssharp
@algernardzyerssharp 24 күн бұрын
I had to sit up for the dealer's choice test👀👀
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
Right!? Usually Origin Traits provide a welcome, but minor benefit to the weapon. I had no idea what Dealers Choice was packing! 😂👍
@Alexkexmex
@Alexkexmex 24 күн бұрын
I'd recommend to try it with Vex Mythoclast and Solar warlock with radiant and Ember of Empyrean to extend radiant and get the 4x surge to do high damage to redbars and with the linear mode to do high damage to champions
@new_zzzombie
@new_zzzombie 24 күн бұрын
Thats what I use, Or ager yeah. cureently.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
That really is a great pairing on Dawnblade! I know many players gravitate towards Rain of Fire when running Vex, but in a lot of way MoBH can be the more beneficial armor piece! 👍👍
@conversefall5928
@conversefall5928 23 күн бұрын
Can you do a video on the new warlock robes? They seem really interesting
@Samsonfs
@Samsonfs 24 күн бұрын
Imagine if titans had a single exotic that allowed us to get our terrible supers back faster lol
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
😂👍🍻
@axe2grind244
@axe2grind244 23 күн бұрын
True… but we can fire nuclear missiles out of our barricades while we wait for our lousy super
@Lorentz_Driver
@Lorentz_Driver 23 күн бұрын
Doomfang. Ursa Furiosa.
@Samsonfs
@Samsonfs 23 күн бұрын
@@Lorentz_Driver I suppose but they're basically only for sentinel shield and that's quite garbage, I legitimately forgot it existed.
@LordJoker88
@LordJoker88 23 күн бұрын
As soon as i could equip 3 dealers choice weapons i grabbed that chest piece and checked if any of the weapons could run thresh, would have been niche but wouldve been fun to see the super energy chunk just a little more
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
I ran to Light.gg and looked for the same exact thing after I ran the test! I didn't see any that could roll it but it would certainly have been interesting to try! 👍🍻
@hooky17
@hooky17 23 күн бұрын
Worth noting it’s not just Dealers Choice weapons but any weapons from the Pale Heart. That includes any of the Exotics from TFS. Khvostov, Microcosm, Still Hunt and Ergo Sum all count
@allisonshoemaker6866
@allisonshoemaker6866 23 күн бұрын
Huh. I had an old build with this and Agers, I might have to see about putting a modern twist on it. Also from my experience, the Spirit version of Mantle seems to be the same super energy just with 0 surges.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Ager's and MoBH always was a beautiful combo! I was toying around with it a little bit and it certainly gets my stamp of approval in TFS! 😂🍻
@tenken73
@tenken73 24 күн бұрын
Bro thanks. I got this perk on my solipsism and at first was dissatisfied. Then i realized that honestly, is kinda op. Curious if the dmg buff if the same on there. Thanks for the great video!
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
You're very welcome! I think on the Exotic Class item, you will just get the Super Energy return side of things (I don't believe the damage buff is included). But still, being able to see these kind of super returns is great in it's own right! 😁👍
@bakairy
@bakairy 22 күн бұрын
Tloloc got turned into a chest piece
@sithazzazzin7329
@sithazzazzin7329 23 күн бұрын
Up until final shape I ran Battle for the infinite extra damage when running solo.
@Blindgibbon
@Blindgibbon 24 күн бұрын
I am running this with three pale heart weapons and it is really nice.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
It is very impressive! That super meter fills up insanely fast! 👍🍻
@Blindgibbon
@Blindgibbon 24 күн бұрын
@@IronworkerGaming I have been using the song of flame super with no hesitations with a subsistence/incandescent roll and talk about super spam.
@ozzysmith2571
@ozzysmith2571 23 күн бұрын
Oh man I've already been running 2 or 3 dealers choice to begin with (No Hesitation and The Call are my new favourite weapons in the game) But man giving up my double turrets is gonna be painful...
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Hahaha! That's completely understandable! Having a full fireteam when playing solo is a ton of fun! 😂 Always great to hear from you! 👍🍻
@0pheli0n
@0pheli0n 23 күн бұрын
Try farming for an apotheosis | Harmony class item! When apotheosis procs you can send up to 3 turrets & with Harmony letting you get your super in less than a minute Im sure itll fel the same with the added bonus of always having a super
@patricksullivan9713
@patricksullivan9713 24 күн бұрын
I so was hoping someone would test mantle with the new weapons!!
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
Glad to hear that I could come through for you! 😁👍
@ShaoShaoMienshao
@ShaoShaoMienshao 9 күн бұрын
I managed to get Spirit of Harmony and Spirit of Ophidians on the same Exotic bond. I'm so excited. If the data for the Super energy gains are the same, and players are coded as Majors (~3% energy???) then I should have a massive Super advantage in PvP modes.
@rayne217
@rayne217 23 күн бұрын
bro has that d1 year 1 crucible super cooldown ☠
@Hina_Hanta
@Hina_Hanta 23 күн бұрын
Dang grass. Glad to know it wasn't nerfs across the board for us warlock mains
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Haha, the grass was officially conquered...till next week at least.😂 Also, great to hear from you! I hope you've been well! Even though it just saw a small tweak in Final Shape, I'm really liking what it did for MoBH! 😁🍻
@rickyruiz2135
@rickyruiz2135 24 күн бұрын
This is amazing, but now I have a question, would it be better to use the exotic or the bond, because youre basically spamming the super at any time you can so might as well try to get more benefits by using the bond with spirit of apotheosis+ spirit of mantle
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
I think which is the better option would really come down to personal preference. The super gains are definitely a great feature for both. You just gotta decide between taking the damage buff side of MoBH or replacing that with a different perk on Solipsism. It's all in what you're looking for I suppose! 👍🍻
@NEWGHOST9
@NEWGHOST9 24 күн бұрын
Oki, i rlly enjoyed the exotic in the past but that’s crazy, i wonder if any of the pale heart weapons get thresh.. cuz that might actually be a good thing ti test out aswell
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
As soon as I saw how much Super energy they were generating through the origin trait, I ran strait to Light.gg to check for Thresh! 😅 Sadly, I didn't see any that could roll with it (I don't thing that I missed any at least), but things certainly would have got pretty wild if they could! 😂👍
@bewarethebat0
@bewarethebat0 24 күн бұрын
It's crazy how one change can really make an exotic feel better
@NihilisticTings
@NihilisticTings 24 күн бұрын
Crazy how we expect exotic perks to feel powerful but bungie employs 45 year olds who think reloading faster could suffice for an exotic perk. Absolute r3tards
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
Right!? Just doing away with the cooldown really was such a great change! 👍👍
@npaul5962
@npaul5962 24 күн бұрын
Pairs nicely with Aegis Scepter. I wonder if this would work with Microcosm and Prismatic
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
MoBH and Ager's really is a phenomenal pairing! I haven't play around with Microcosm as of yet, but I wouldn't think there would be any direct synergy with it being kinetic damage, but it would provide an additional source of super energy! 👍👍
@zferolie
@zferolie 24 күн бұрын
I have used agers with this weapon on stasis since agers dropped, and its one of my favorite builds. I wondering if there is any solid new weapons to use with it, probably the healer auto. Shame we dont have a pale heart stasis heavy.
@rollingr0ck
@rollingr0ck 24 күн бұрын
ngl, the dealer's choice super gain benefit just didn't register in my brain. I'm going to have to consider using 3 of them in combination with armor mods for literal nova bomb spam. Thanks for this info!
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
You're very welcome! Seeing just how potent Dealer's Choice was when in a full set really took me off guard! I normally expect Origin Traits to provide a welcome, but minor benefit to the weapon. This was damn impressive! 😁👍
@thearisthotle4686
@thearisthotle4686 23 күн бұрын
Please test dealers choice!! The description reads that it works when you have multiple weapons FROM the pale heart equipped, NOT multiple weapons with dealers choice. I NEED TO KNOW IF THIS WORKS WITH PALE HEART EXOTICS (still hunt, microcosm, ergo sum, etc)
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Hummm....this is true! That is definitely worth trying out! 😁👍
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Ok, so I just tested Microcosm with 2 other Dealers Choice Pale Heart weapons equipped. Sadly, I couldn't hit anywhere near the numbers that I was seeing with a Dealers Choice weapon doing the work. I also tried things out with Micorcosm holstered and a Dealers Choice weapon in hand, and the super was back up roughly 20 sec slower. I'd have to figure that it is the Origin Trait that makes the magic happen. 👍👍
@arthas_stormr8ge877
@arthas_stormr8ge877 23 күн бұрын
Bro I got a harmony and apotheosis class exotic and it is so good. I get my nova bomb back in like 20 seconds with graviton.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
That's awesome!! 👍🍻
@JustJoe24
@JustJoe24 23 күн бұрын
How is the mantle perk on the exotic class items? Does that have the cooldown the exotic armor used to have?
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
They should provided the exact same benefit in regards to the super cooldown. 👍🍻
@intoxicviii
@intoxicviii 23 күн бұрын
Wouldn't you do more damage if you had a void weapon in your hand and a void super since the enemies you were going against had voided Shields?
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
The Minotaur in there was the only shielded enemy so I wasn't terribly concerned about it, but a Void weapons certainly would have popped it off much quicker. 👍🍻
@zorpglorp
@zorpglorp 23 күн бұрын
do any of the exotics from the pale heart have the origin trait as a hidden perk? i know conditional finality will grant a stack of its origin trait to other ron weapons.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
I did it out with Microcosm because someone pointed out that the Dealer's Choice perk is supposed to work with "Pale Heart Weapons" and didn't get positive results in my testing. Although I have seen others saying that it does work (but I have no real way of confirming if their testing process was valid or not). So, I'm sticking with no...at least in Microcosms case, but it may be worthwhile to try it for yourself.👍👍
@zorpglorp
@zorpglorp 22 күн бұрын
@@IronworkerGaming that sucks but i guess it's still worth trying with the other exotics
@zachtoplasm2752
@zachtoplasm2752 24 күн бұрын
iirc the super gains could potentially be better in harder content since higher enemy tiers now give more super than red bars
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
True indeed! If you can take them out in a timely manner, you definitely could see better returns! 👍👍
@theregularfolks1723
@theregularfolks1723 23 күн бұрын
Headstone crystal kills count as weapon kills and will decrease your super CD significantly when clearing groups with shatter
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Indeed! I was trying to be carful to just secure the kills with the weapon itself during the test, but when you're clearing packs of enemies with those crystals super energy definitely comes back in chunks! 👍🍻
@theregularfolks1723
@theregularfolks1723 23 күн бұрын
Ok… good to know… not trying to tell you how to do your job, but I think a small segment in the beginning showing one of those big chunks would have been really cool to show off…
@theregularfolks1723
@theregularfolks1723 23 күн бұрын
Great vid though… I’ve been using this set up with a transcendence build that makes orbs like crazy… but I have to use the autorifle for song of flame… you constantly alternate between song of flame and transcendence… both making super tier orbs
@omiejay
@omiejay 23 күн бұрын
Cool upgrade for mobh, but why the heck did I get a support Israel ad on this video?
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
It really is a nice change! As far as the add...I have no clue! KZbin is a strange platform. 😂👍
@HoopleHeadUSA
@HoopleHeadUSA 22 күн бұрын
This is great with Graviton Lance and weaken nades
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 22 күн бұрын
Absolutely!! 😁👍
@thestudentsofscience2660
@thestudentsofscience2660 23 күн бұрын
wow, is it possible to get thresh on any of the pale heart weapons?
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 22 күн бұрын
I though the same exact thing, and unfortunately I didn't see it in any of the perk listings.👍👍
@hooky17
@hooky17 23 күн бұрын
Nice video thank you. Worth noting it’s not just Dealers Choice weapons but any weapons from the Pale Heart. That includes any of the Exotics from TFS. Khvostov, Microcosm, Still Hunt and Ergo Sum all count towards buffing the super return
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
You're very welcome, and glad to hear that you enjoyed it! Some had asked about the Pale Heart exotics when paired with Dealers Choice weapons, so I tested it out with Microcosm and was not getting results on par with 3 Pale Heart legendarys. I'll give it another shot at some point though. 👍🍻
@hooky17
@hooky17 23 күн бұрын
@@IronworkerGaming On that, I did my own testing after I posted this too and I agree. They do seem to give some additional benefit compared to 'normal' non-dealers choice weapons. But definitely running three of the legendary weapons with the traits gives better returns. I apologise for what seems like misinformation. I guess worth noting that Microcosm does give more super enegry on kills itself so possibly not a bad shout but doesn't then buff the others as you say. My bad
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
@@hooky17 No worries!! Super gains can be really finicky and tedious to test and gauge. It would have been awesome if it did work out though, and we were able to get some of those exotics into the mix!🍻
@mvrk4044
@mvrk4044 24 күн бұрын
now if only we got a decent arc super
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Hahaha! Right!? 👍👍
@ecfeclipse
@ecfeclipse 23 күн бұрын
Still waiting for this thing to get a good looking ornament
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Hahah, right!? The fashion side of this exotics makes my stomach upset! 😂👍
@MoogleTheGod
@MoogleTheGod 24 күн бұрын
For higher level content you can use the call and needlestorm
@MeanMachineRAF
@MeanMachineRAF 24 күн бұрын
Even better: exo strand sidearm.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
Indeed! Plus you could run the Pro Memoria Strand LMG for for another option to make use of the MoBH buff while maintaining the Dealers Choice stack! 👍😁
@Un4gettablewolf
@Un4gettablewolf 24 күн бұрын
I really hope bungie brings all of our light and dark abilities to prismatic. Changing how the exotic works by saying matching super instead matching subclass says what bungie is thinking in the future.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
That is a really interesting concept! Complete freedom under one subclass! 👍🍻
@Un4gettablewolf
@Un4gettablewolf 23 күн бұрын
@IronworkerGaming I believe there was talk about this for d3. But maybe it was scrapped. But there's signs of this still happening. Bungie seems to be consolidating everything. From what I hear they would be getting rid of different subclass types and making it about race or origin.
@JZblue9
@JZblue9 23 күн бұрын
really want a ded gramarye with discord/chain so i can try it with arc and just go nuts with the weapon damage.
@generalnawaki
@generalnawaki 23 күн бұрын
6:18 yo what the *races to my vault to de equip necrotic grips. Edit: just got back from K1 communion on the moon and FOUR TIMES did I get to super with all pale hearts weapons and the mantle on. like damn. DAMN.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
That's awesome!! I have been very impressed with MoBH in it's current state....so much so that I haven't felt the urge to equip Nezarec's Sin!! 😅👍
@generalnawaki
@generalnawaki 23 күн бұрын
@@IronworkerGaming I mean, what's better more abilities or more supers, MOAR SUPAAAAAS! :P
@Zaproz_
@Zaproz_ 23 күн бұрын
Mix MoBH with 3 Pale Heart weapons. Get super back in like 30 secs. Idk if you mentioned this combo btw, sorry if you did. Im currently watching in a loud ass place. Edit: As soon as i sent this u started testing. Whoops
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Haha, no worries! It really is insane how quickly you can get your super back up with that loadout! 😁🍻
@kit_horror
@kit_horror 24 күн бұрын
Couldn't you run a surge mod to get a 17% damage boost while your super is building to get the kills raider, then because the boost is larger at 25%, mobh would automatically kick in after your super is full? Seems like you'd get your super faster cuz you'd kill faster
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
That is certainly is an option! 👍👍
@NoBloons
@NoBloons 24 күн бұрын
I might join the discord. Would they enjoy randim dungeons?
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Haha! You might be able to find a few people in there that would go for that! 😁👍
@CheezerTheGrate
@CheezerTheGrate 24 күн бұрын
Wait what happened with Two Tailed and Facet Of Command? Did they nerf it? And if they did… I guess we had to trade it for Two Tailed working properly with surges again Rip Two Tailed meta you were a real one while you lasted
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, unfortunately they did hit Facet of Command with an 11 second cooldown, so no more instant reloads. It sure was nice having a reason to pull TTF back out though, even if it was just for a short time! 😁🍻
@oWarone
@oWarone 24 күн бұрын
Today i got the Two tailed.... 😢😢😢 it was my last Exotic -.- and now they nerfed it 😭😭😭
@CheezerTheGrate
@CheezerTheGrate 24 күн бұрын
@@oWarone it’s still powerful! Don’t worry
@jrjoker7135
@jrjoker7135 23 күн бұрын
Does it react with kinect weapons to or no
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Unfortunately it does not. They do need to have an elemental damage type linked to your Super. If you had a Kinetic with Osmosis though, that would do the trick. 👍🍻
@jrjoker7135
@jrjoker7135 23 күн бұрын
@@IronworkerGaming awesome thank you for the heads up now time to go looking in my vault
@mayedalshamsi
@mayedalshamsi 23 күн бұрын
Is this with t10 intellect, or it doesn't matter?
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Every one of the tests was done at T5 Intellect. 👍👍
@mayedalshamsi
@mayedalshamsi 23 күн бұрын
@@IronworkerGaming - Amazing. Going to put this build together right now, thank you. I wonder if any of the Dealer's Choice weapons can roll with Thresh. Would be overkill, even worse than it is now. 😂
@jaden6805
@jaden6805 23 күн бұрын
Bro, I made the same build today now my friend thinks I stole it from you.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Hahaha!! As the saying goes...great minds do think alike! 😂🍻
@mrlownly8446
@mrlownly8446 23 күн бұрын
Welp, i guess i got a new build to use...
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 23 күн бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! 👍🍻
@randallcouto2904
@randallcouto2904 24 күн бұрын
Mantle of battle harmony was great on release , it had a few different nerfs to it. They nerfed how much energy you got back and they nerfed how to proc its buff when super was full. They then nerfed it again when they introduced those stupid surge mods. I don't think they stack but I might be wrg. They took away high energy fire which did stack.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
Ehhh...some of that's not quite right. I did test and release a video on it when it first launched and then again a season or two later when Bungie actually allowed it to work in PvP. I definitely do prefer the exotic in it's current state. 👍👍
@z_royal_beatz_z6407
@z_royal_beatz_z6407 24 күн бұрын
Two tailed fox will get fixed!
@Samsonfs
@Samsonfs 24 күн бұрын
The only reason why it was useful is because of the facet of command having no cooldown by accident, even if it works with surges it won't ever be good again now.
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
It was great see that the Surge Mods not working were acknowledged by Bungie, but I'll always long for the days when Facet of Command gave it infinite instant reloads! 😂🍻
@z_royal_beatz_z6407
@z_royal_beatz_z6407 23 күн бұрын
@@Samsonfs Ahhh right
@heavymetallabrat
@heavymetallabrat 24 күн бұрын
What happened to two tail fox?
@NEWGHOST9
@NEWGHOST9 24 күн бұрын
The one fragment made it auto reload on every single shot cuz it reloaded on freeze and supress, two tailed fox supresses.. they added a cooldown to said fragment’s auto reloading
@thetruellamaman4543
@thetruellamaman4543 24 күн бұрын
Not just any cooldown. An 11 second cooldown. Should’ve been like 7 or 9 seconds imo
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 24 күн бұрын
The 11 second cooldown on Facet of Command hurt my heart! 😂 At least the Surge Mods not working has been acknowledged by Bungie! 😁👍
@neske7143
@neske7143 21 күн бұрын
How to get MoBH these days?
@IronworkerGaming
@IronworkerGaming 21 күн бұрын
It's still just a random drop. To the best of my knowledge, there is no deterministic way of getting your hands on it. 👍👍
@neske7143
@neske7143 20 күн бұрын
@@IronworkerGaming Thank you kind Sir!
@joshuanovakowski8293
@joshuanovakowski8293 24 күн бұрын
As a warlock main, the exotic is mid at best in pve and down right terrible in pvp. It lost 10% stackable damage because bungie had this hair balled scheme that surges needed to be intrinsic on some exotics. All this exotic is the thresh perk on armor. A complete waste of an exotic slot.
@richasaurusrex2890
@richasaurusrex2890 23 күн бұрын
Use your super and have fun in the games sandbox instead of being miserable all the time.
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