Grenade heavy build, Me who mains sunbraces. 👁️ 👄 👁️

An easy buff for axion bolt in pve is just always make it drop 2/4 seekers if there is just 1 guy and have them all track him

Always love the videos, brother!🍻

My biggest take away from this is that spike wall needs a massive buff. Another huge drawback that was mentioned was that the grenade itself can be destroyed, cutting the duration short. Enemies dont target the grenade but I noticed some aoe effects seem to work. When I was trying spike wall in onslaught, the cursed thralls would often take out the grenade. You can position the grenade around this and yes it does have the largest area but its maximum damage should be a higher than vortexes compared to where it is

I will die on the hill that aspects should meaningfully change the way you play a subclass and all aspects should have the potential to have more than 4 fragments in a build. With that being said.... why did bungie neuter chaos accelerant?! I know its been this way for a while and yes itstizzle dropped a solo gm run using CA with contraverse holds recently but that says more about his knowledge and skill than it does about how helpful the aspect + exotic combo is. Seriously look at exactly how little the aspect helps your grenades and it STILL MAKES SCATTER GRENADES WORSE OVERALL! this is without considering prismatic warlock basically gets everything good from the void aspects (minus child of the old gods) without even being restricted on your second aspect choice or exotic because transcendence is built in and you have plenty of ways to regen your abilities. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE

A note, it becomes about 30% better if paired with a sniper for cleanups

Charging still does no extra damage :c

Since your last video I always use void wall nade because was doing the most damage 😅, can be use for damage and also add clear

God you have no idea how much I appreciate your videos. I honestly consider your breakdowns and testing to be the most thorough and in depth testing, and essential part of deciding how to fashion builds. Thank you for your work and keep up with the great videos!

Superb video! Provides great information and solid analysis

Great breakdown. Loved all the info.

Hello man, I just to say this video is awesome, thank you so much for this!

Жаль, что не проверил плазменную гранату с рукавицами титана 😢

Nice vid. So i realize how much testing would probably suck but i gotta ask, how about prismatic(the thing everyone/I am/is using)

Warlock main here, this was a very informative video. Nice job! Thank you for making this video. I need to go redo some builds now, lol.

Well, i might just use void wall instead of vortex with controlled demotion and undermining lol

What's funny to me! As you mentioned lots of different utility between different Grenades. I use my Grenades differently across all 3 Classes tbf so I'm interested to see what comes out on top! My Titan? Scatter with Controlled Demo & a Throwing Shield. Add in a Destabilising Rounds Weapon? Purple Assplosions everywhere! Warlock? Almost always Vortex! Although I will admit Scatter with Nothing Mannacles can be very fun! Hunter? Depends on what I'm doing in PVE! Voidwall + Smoke wombo combo is amazing for add clear & works pretty damn good with a Gyrfalcons Build. Vortex is still probably the go to for harder content. Do you plan on doing these for all the classes? Im using Stasis a LOT for the last couple seasons. Glacier with Shatter? Duskfield with Renewals & the Grenade Aspect gives you slow + the big crystal for shatter. Wonder what a Stacey Turret would do if you left it to do it's thing!?

"Bungie did make an effort to improve upon (Scatter Grenade tracking)" is the equivalent of adding the barest sprinkling of Parmesan cheese to a huge plate of spaghetti. Who's programming these things? Dennis Nedry from Jurassic Park? Without the fantastic tracking of D1 this renders Nothing Manacles next to useless.

I remember some time ago the scatter grenade particles collided with each other and exploded before hitting the enemy. Did Bungie fix that?

The spike grenade would be my favourite if the geometry of this game wasn't so wonky. I just use vortex on my warlock and suppressor on the other two classes.

Once again I am going to claim that void 3.0 ruined chaos accelerant. Thanks for the updated info IG

great video, does contraverse makes scatter that much better compared to this? cause it's really popular

Damn I like damage testing videos like this. Cool video :)

Damn, 3 years later I can finally update that old screenshot I have from grenades.

I’m surprised void wall did so much

New video idea … after completing all elements take the highest damage grenades and add verity x5 in the last video - use Carl and have fun with it 🙌. Thanks as always for putting in the time for educating the community

Little tip for void spike and thunder grenades, their latching ability can be a bit buggy but if you know what to do it is possible to actually stick these grenades to certain enemies by wedging them in the hit boxes. My personal favourite is wedging thunder grenades under Carl's chin.

I personally like Scatter grenade on Titan, but Warlock definitely goes hard with Vortex and Contraverse.

Again another long period of test you did for us!! I really appreciate this!! Cheers

As usual, awesome video. Been missing your content. Would have been interesting to include Chaos, Remnants, and Undermining w/ Vortex, just to see how much the trio work together, and since its such the defacto Voidlock build (Contras).

I actually watched this video from a couple of years ago last night because I was wondering if I should swap off scatter grenades to the void grenade lol (for hunter PVP but came across the other video and watched it out of curiosity lol)

Love these videos! Just some minor errors I spotted in the video: • Suppression's effects do affect Minibosses; in the video you state Suppression's effects aren't applicable to Bosses and Minibosses and while that is true for Bosses, Minibosses (with the exception of Barrier and Unstoppable Champions) also become non-combative. - Speaking about Suppression: not mentioned in the video but I thought I'd also say here that Suppression knocks Miniboss and Boss Hive Lightbearers out of their Supers, and also strips the new Bane Combatants of their effects while suppressed (e.g. Drain Bane stops draining; Mines Bane do not drop mines if they are still suppressed on final blow). • Echo of Domineering (and Facet of Command) only reloads from reserves your current readied weapon (the one in your hands), not all weapons as mentioned in the video. • Vortex Grenades do pull Minibosses towards the center of the vortex providing they are in range.

Very small bit of info but needed for some player: supressor grenades can take lucent lightbearers out of their supers. You can also do this to player but i was trying to keep with the theme of pve.

it's a damn shame chaos accelerant isn't worth using anymore after it's damage buff was removed, worst grenade aspect ever, none of the other grenade aspects need to be charged for their special effects to happen

Tus videos son de los más informativos y de los mejores hechos dentro de esta comunidad, eres una referencia muy buena siempre que necesito información de algún tema relacionado con el juego, muchas gracias por la dedicación y el tiempo que pones en estos vídeos, I wrote this in Spanish so you know you're helpful to all destiny community

As expected, Vortex is the most consistently reliable, especially if you're rocking contraverse, as you can get get two ticks of the hyperspeed grenade regeneration. Honestly that's kind of a pity, I'd love to see scatter grenades get a little more love. If only Chaos Accelerant still boosted damage; nothing manacles could be really cool.

wow the devotion and effort you made for this video is insane. Really appreciate the work.

good video at always, keep up good work :3

Charged axion with the fragment that makes enemies explode on death is good for ad clear but the pvp nerf to the cool down ruined any pve viability of that nade

Is there a difference in scatter with accelerate or with manicles

Just a word of advice if you have the extra person to help you but Templar would probably be a better test as he doesn’t move if your buddy is standing on his TP spots. Might be helpful if you haven’t done the solar and arc vids yet

This channel rocks❤

I have been playing d2 for roughly 2000h and never tested the grenades damage You're truly a hero

Void wall probably cooks Raneicks, gonna try that out next time I play

I know this testing was rough, and the editing wasn’t quick and easy, however, this was a very nice video and I really did enjoy watching it. You got my sub.

Sorry it's taken me so long to get here. I was trying to figure this weapon out in PvP. Overall? Its...Ok. In all honesty its definitely a PvE weapon, but sometimes you gotta try the road leas traveled. But now my feet hurt and I'm tired of walking!

When you do solar, could you look into tripmine with Ahamkara? And arc skip grenades with.... what is that hunter arms that power up skip grenades? Oh! And lucky raspberry for arc as well. I'm just curious on what the boosts are under what conditions and what not if you would please.

I take appreciate these videos. Thank you. Please do for all grenades and test all subclass abilities and cooldowns. Awesome stuff