Manual Boost Controller Install (Bench testing the correct way)

[@joeford4081]

I know the video is old, but just in case anyone comes across it: he's explaining it backwards: OPENING the boost controller (i.e. reducing the pressure of the controller spring), is going to allow MORE air to reach the TOP of the wastegate. This air will fight to keep the wastegate closed and thus RAISE boost. At 1:43, he "increases resistance" by twisting the boost controller "down" in order to "raise the boost." He's actually lowering the boost (by reducing the air inside the TOP of the wastegate). This is even reflected when looking at the gauge between the two tests. This could be important for some people on a new build, trying to run off wastegate for testing. Especially since the adjustment decal some controllers align with this video because they were designed for an internal wastegate setup.

[@pojiamd5193]

What if i just use the lower tip of the wastegate and connect with 2 port of the manual boost controller.( From turbo prrssure source goes to 1 tip of the boost controller and other one goes to the lower tip of the external wastegate and the top of the wastegate vent it to air..can it actually increase the boost pressure?

[@yenwunarmy]

@@pojiamd5193 yes

[@MrAhhsum]

Came for the controller instructions, but left wanting to modify waste gate instead. Great video, thanks for the information!

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Mr Ahhsum appreciate the positive feedback :)

[@sammyturbo786]

Thanks for the help. Did it wrong the first time. But after watching your video was able to get my boost controller to control the wastegate properly. Thanks again

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Sammy Turbo much respect chief. Happy it was able to help you with your project. I have a new racecar project so look out for more content.

[@RayonsAutoDiagnostics]

great demonstration. i have never seen a bench hook up before

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Rayon G Thanks for the feedback bro. Submitted everything today too so only a matter of time now.

[@unkleskruge]

Liked for the song choice!

[@bowtie406]

Excellent Video. I'm switching over from nitrous to turbo on my 6.0 s10. Thank you!

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Ray Cam welcome to the turbo club buddy. I'm happy the video helped you out. We've set out to do some more vids in the near future.

[@alessioramasso]

Thanks a lot man!

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Alessio Ramasso you’re most welcome Chief

[@marnoevanrooyen6659]

Let's hope this work because my turbo setup on my 1 jz is giving me headaches

[@CODE-rp4uc]

sweet. looking forward to waching it. thanks again

[@wt8826]

nicely done.

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Wayne Twombly thank you 👍

[@ashinejowreal8345]

Yo wassup bro I clicked on this video and was like I know that dude lol went to wyotech with you lol I remember that clean white eg hatch lol

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Aye bro!!! Man time as flown by. Thanks for watching. How have you been though ?

[@ashinejowreal8345]

@@HighPerformanceNetwork yea been almost a decade already lol and I'm doing great brother looks like your doing big things glad to see your doing great

[@elite_shadower_6057]

got a feeling your from the Caribbean...

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Indeed i am, which country you from chief ?

[@saabaero6211]

Is it okay to use a fuel pressure regulator controller as manual boost controller ..?

[@iphone-uz8vc]

is that the same principle to boost vgt turbo as-well

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Ahhh. Honestly I’m not certain. I have never seen one of those in the wild before. Then again I don’t do much the heavy equipment

[@BjornFSE]

well done indeed

[@CODE-rp4uc]

awesome thanks for the info.

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

+Frozen 782 Your welcome. The second part to this video will include the full test on a customers car from start to finish.

[@RedLineBandits]

is it bad to run the waste gate from mainfold source or should i add a fitting to my turbo outlet?

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

I can't say if either is right or wrong. But I try to run my pressure source before the throttle body or as close to the turbo as possible. So personally I run it from the turbo. I'm sure other people may say yah or nah. But I've never had an issue doing it that way

[@ileyva1]

For the boost pressure source where does it hook up if theres no fitting on the turbo its self

[@jeffersonbagain8358]

on that gate theres 2 top port right so 1 goes with vacuum how abou the other port do i need to block it or leave it as a vent ?

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

The other can be left to vent. However if you have a top dollar multi port boost controller say a ams unit then you would connect to that. (4 port controller in other words). Hope this helps :)

[@jeffersonbagain8358]

@@HighPerformanceNetwork oh ok thanks appreciate it

[@jacobanderson3768]

This is great, you doing this. I was wondering about where in these lines a blow off valve would go?

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

jacob anderson that is question most will have varied responses. Some would say you can "T" the line between the compressor and the wastegate. Personally I like to take it from a source off the intake manifold. Hope this helps

[@jacobanderson3768]

High Performance Network Thank you so much for responding. And thanks for the info, I really appreciate it!

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

jacob anderson your most welcome. I'm happy the content has brought you one step closer to bringing your project to life

[@jacobanderson3768]

@@HighPerformanceNetwork my setup is built, woo! I only have a 6psi spring and the wastegate for now until I get everything tuned. I'll send a video of the blow off valve making sound on the road, maybe tomorrow. Thanks again!

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

@@jacobanderson3768 Much appreciated, I bought a project car and will be releasing new material first thing in 2019....Long overdue but man when you have kids and a business to run time becomes real scarce.

[@jeffersonbagain8358]

for the wastegate spring pressure only did you ive the top port open ?

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

You should yes. Can also put a barb with the hose to prevent debris from entering

[@jeffersonbagain8358]

do i need to block the hose if i put barb abd hose or live it as vent

[@CODE-rp4uc]

ok thank you. ill be looking forward to your video. i want to put a 3mm shim in my HKS external wastegate. its currently on 8psi. i dont want to put a boost controller in. do you know roughly how much the boost will will go up with 3mm thick shim?

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

+Frozen 782 That sounds like a familiar figure for some reason. But the one I installed int the video went from 7-8psi to 9-10psi. Its important to note although a 3mm may yield around 2psi, its a progressive setup so if you used 6mm it would more than likely be around 5-6psi

[@CODE-rp4uc]

how thick would you make the shim to start with?

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

+Frozen 782 It will have to confirm the exact size, but it was picked it up at the local hardware store and they only had a few gauges. I plan on revisiting this test with greater detail in the coming weeks Thank you for the comment

[@BryceV817]

What if the pressure line normally runs from the turbo to the intake manifold can I disconnect it from the manifold or would that cause problems?

[@alexanderrayner4230]

It wasn't even connected to the pump?

[@ThatSlowV]

what do i do if my turbo don't have a compressor hose ?

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

A 3/16 barb should be somewhere on the turbo side. If it ain't on the turbo then it should be on the pressure pipe coming off the turbo. I've seen some tdo5's like that. If my comment doesn't help. You can send me a picture of what you have and I can advise from there

[@orestispappas1613]

Hi. Tyrbo Diesel can also use boost control ?

[@julioquintano4148]

hi dude !!! I have a question, I have understood your videos perfectly, you have explained everything perfect and you have cleared me many doubts, however, my situation is that I have a project but it will be supercharger, not turbocharged, something simple between 5-7 psi, but I will not have wastgate and I have been asking some questions, if the same procedure can be done but instead of being the wastgate it could be with the BOV? maybe a T between the intake manifold line and BOV? I know that there is a vacuum that is generated within the intake manifold after the butterfly of the throttle body closes when it stops accelerating to be able to deflect by means of the BOV the pressure that remains before the throttle body. However, I would like to know if the engine is accelerating and the supercharger generating boost, while the throttle body butterfly is open and there is pressure in the intake manifold; can the boost controller be located between the line that goes from the intake manifold to the BOV? I appreciate your answer very much.

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Hello Julio, Thank you for the question and kind comments. Will do my best to answer as truthfully i'm not real knowledgeable on supercharger systems. But I have seen AMG Benz with superchargers that have some form of boost control as an option, exactly how it's done I am not certain. But I due know from experience roots "style" blowers are strange to have boost control options as they mainly use the pulley size (under or oversized) to control the rate blower rotation. As for blow off valve, think from memory they may have to be vented back into the system (recirculated) but not certain about that one.....If i were to recommend a supercharger system it would be a rotrex unit. (jacksonracing.com/product/rotrex-c38-supercharger-units/) Not only are they more efficient than a standard blower. But i think they could be the answer to all your questions......Hope this was helpful, as im not a supercharger guy. But much respect to you and good luck on your project...feel free to drop us some images of the build. :) Happy Holidays

[@julioquintano4148]

​@@HighPerformanceNetwork Thanks bro!!! and thanks for answering, actually I also like turbochargers more that the superchargers but for my project would be less complicated a supercharger, or that I had thought xD but it is also a wide world, good in this life never stops learning, thanks for everything, right now I am looking at the information you suggested about the pulleys and how they influence the speed of compression of the supercharger, again thanks for giving me those data that are very helpful to me, take your like again good man hahaha and :) Happy Holidays.

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Julio Quintano finally bought a new project car for myself. So will be bringing some fresh content to the channel in 2019

[@julioquintano4148]

@@HighPerformanceNetwork UFFF !!! I forgot that I was going to subscribe hehehe good content on your channel, another subscriber more won.

[@shaneedwards7106]

Hi I got a 14psi spring in my external wastegate I have hooked the compressor line to the boost controller then from there to the bottom port of wastegate then teed it off for boost gauge and I’m only getting 10psi in whatever I do

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Hmm. That’s an interesting one. And your certain it’s a 14psi spring and not 7psi.!? Hmmm. Next step would be to verify if you have a boost leak somewhere in the system. If no leak. Then I would proceed to remove the boost control line on the waste gate (so it’s running on spring pressure) but leave the boost gauge hooked up direct to manifold pressure. If it goes to 14 then could be a faulty boost controller. That would be how I would do it. Let me know if that helps.

[@MichaelKlippi]

So helpful, that's a subscribe from me

[@taylorodonnell6309]

Ive followed these guidelines but im still having issues!

[@Oscar_HenriquezMIA]

Would it make a difference if I took my boost gauge line by teeing The TOP connection between the wastegate and boost controller?

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

+Oscar Henriquez Personally I like to tee the line from the throttle body to fuel pressure reg for my boost gauge line. But If i understand your question correctly, you may get a delay if your running the manual boost controller, wastegate, turbo compressor and boost gauge. I dont see why it wouldnt work but its a lot of teeing going on lol

[@Oscar_HenriquezMIA]

That makes sense. So really, the vaccumm source that goes to the boost guage can come from anywhere? From the intake manifold etc. I had the understand it had to be on the same line as the manual boost controller as showcased on the video

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Oscar Henriquez Yup. once the source is from an intake source, most people use the line connecting the turbo compressor to actuator for the bov as in some cases its easy to get to. but either line is ok to use. Quick way to test is if you remove the line when the engine is on, you should feel it sucking lol

[@NinoSwavae]

Do u know what that center hole at the top is for

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

NinoSwavae that hole is normally used with a three or four port boost controller solenoid. Can be used to add more pressure than the wastegate spring can physically manage.

[@joeyfoureyes98]

Does this setup raise or lower boost from spring psi?

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Q Man this setup can be used to increase boost pressure as it would hold the spring under tension for a longer period. However if you wanted to lower boost pressure that can be a bit tricky as each spring have a minimum boost pressure (8psi) to go below that pressure I've seen people make calculated holes somewhere in the system to bleed that pressure off. Lol but no one ever wants lower boost :)

[@jeepfan971]

Can you show how to run a vacuum lines for a boost referenced fuel pressure regulator

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Connor C. Jones sure bro! Just send a pm to my Facebook page. Happy to share that info

[@renereyes9333]

when the turbo no have boost pressure source how install the boost controller

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Rene Reyes if it's a stock turbo you may have to install a "T" fitting to share the pressure source. If it's an aftermarket turbo. Then you can drill and tap barb in the inlet/compressor side of the turbo piping. Once the pressure source is before the throttle body. That's the important thing. But mainly the closer you can get to the turbo the better. Hope this helps :)

[@ricardolebron4989]

Umm well my turbo doesn't have that fitting in the turbo so what I do then? I need help

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Ricardo Lebron in that case you may have to drill and tap a brass barb fitting onto a charge pipe coming from the turbo. Basically the first pipe you have access to that’s connected to the turbo compressor. However if you have a factory turbo then you may already have a barb line you can tap into. What vehicle do you have ?

[@ricardolebron4989]

@@HighPerformanceNetwork well I got a 6262 precision turbo but I got to rebuild it so I'm using now by the time that I got the precision done a Ebay cheap turbo with a turbonetics Wastegate and tial blow off with a manual boost controller so I'm kind of confused now after watching your vid btw it's a b16a

[@ricardolebron4989]

@@HighPerformanceNetwork btw the precision it has that brass nipple but the Ebay doesn't so idk now bro

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Ricardo Lebron ok. No prob. We can find a solution. You can technically use a line from the plenum. Not a fan of using from the manifold though. But other than installing a barb on the intake pipe or hell you can even drill n tap the eBay compressor housing. And ahhh the old B16 loll brings back so many memories

[@ricardolebron4989]

@@HighPerformanceNetwork i got a b20v nitrous and a b16css bore out to 84.5 boosted too this b16a it's just to fool around

[@kylepalmer2360]

Yaadman?

[@RidingWithGerdas]

What about internal wastegate. Wanna hoop up my Garret on diesel engine with a MBC

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

THE G. I'm glad you asked. I was on the fence on whether I should do one for an actuator. I will shoot a second video showing the process for that

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

THE G. You could also purchase an adjustable actuator that can increase spring tension aka boost

[@RidingWithGerdas]

No need for that, I just need extra 0.2-.0.3 bar of boost, MBC will be plenty enough plus it's really hard to get to the turbo on my car :)

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Lol oh ok. Thanks for the feedback though

[@nautilus1999]

is that 40mm wastegate of eBay if so how is it?

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

This wastegate came already installed when i purchased the car. But it is a HKS 50mm from my understanding and can see faded marking.....The wastegate is one of the most crucial items on a turbo vehicle. Mostly everything else can be purchased from ebay. But the Turbo, WG and BOV should all be higher quality if possible.

[@drake5557]

You realize that a BOV is basically just a piston and a spring. No need to spend a ludicrous amount on something like a HKS BOV, which is $200 bucks.

[@joshy12100]

It is, but 9/10 the cheap ones leak and cause issues

[@FroztiProductions]

I don't see a pressure source on my turbo.

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

FroztiProductions hey! Do you have an internal actuator or external wastegate ?

[@FroztiProductions]

High Performance Network external wastegate. It's an eBay turbo. Looks like it's meant to come off the side of the turbo like in your video but it's plugged off. Like they were going to put a hole there, and then didn't.

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

FroztiProductions ahh double check that the plug doesn't have a hex head threaded bolt. I've seen people block that one off and use a pressure source closer to the intake manifold

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

If it is a bolt then if you able to access it. You maybe able to extract it and use that. Hope this helps

[@FroztiProductions]

High Performance Network I would have to drill through it. It's not plugges by a bolt. They made a place for the hole then didn't drill through in the machining process.

[@chuckamyrhymer6978]

What kinda waste gate is that

[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Chuck & Amy Rhymer this was an old turbonetics 50mm if memory serves me. With it being positioned so far down. Once she opened it was super aggressive echoing off the road surface...Good times they were :)

[@mrpsd590]

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[@HighPerformanceNetwork]

Origins ya seh it loll bless up king