Maori Warriors vs. British Sailors : The Brutal Story of The Boyd Massacre

[@serdavosseaworth6115]

I’m from New Zealand and they don’t teach us stories like this in school because the fear of being labeled “racist” a word so thrashed it’s lost it’s meaning.

[@mentalasylumescapee6389]

how old are you though? things have changed a lot in schooling as far as Maori studies.

[@keastymatthew2407]

​@@mentalasylumescapee6389Not really, it gets more and more convoluted. MANY have fled to aussie because of the BS Forcefed to the children in the schools. The truth is more important, than opinion

[@mentalasylumescapee6389]

@@keastymatthew2407 and do you think Australia treats their aboriginals with more dignity than New Zealand treats NZ Maori?

[@keastymatthew2407]

@@mentalasylumescapee6389 Im unable to anwser sir. Ive never met an aboriginal. But I can do some research. Ive heard many opposing arguments, and therefore its not my place to say.

[@mentalasylumescapee6389]

@@keastymatthew2407 Australia doesn't even class aboriginals as citizens in their constitution, there's a referendum trying to change that right now, how i know? because i use a VPN and even though i'm in NZ i get Australian you tube ads because that's where my VPN says i am currently. VPN is a mask to protect my internet activity.

[@darrylwhite9660]

As a New Zealander and student of our history this account comes across as well-researched and even-handed. Congratulations to the creators of this content. More please!

[@lowellirish]

I am the direct descendant of the Wellers in Otagu Bay...They were my Gr- Uncles 1830.

[@Justin.Martyr]

*Voting for DonaLd Trump is a "JUSTICE" Back Lash, against* *the DemoRATS for & their WAR Against TRUTH!!!!*

[@craigkennett6226]

and yet you can bet that much of it is filling in gaps to suit the narrative

[@keastymatthew2407]

@@darrylwhite9660 Weak asf.

[@MahereNuts]

@@craigkennett6226 what narrative is that you racist are crack up😂

[@Sandbarfight]

Whohoo. I cant wait, you have the best documentaries available. Thank you for all your hard work.

[@markturner2971]

It's about time the true history of New Zealand 🇳🇿 is taught, not the current window dressing lies.

[@Mr48two]

Bruv we’re still getting taught about James cook and his adventures 😂 #1 social studies

[@ourpeople-g7r]

Why not talk about the present? It is much more entertaining to talk about how the maoris are nowdays. News from the Rotorua Daily Post: "Child, 2, dies after Rotorua driveway accident, family member steals from doctor trying to save child's life." As hospital staff tried to save the life of a 2-year-old boy run over in a Rotorua driveway, a family member swiped a doctor's two phones and a bank card and went on a spending spree. The child died a short time later but Melissa Herewini (A MAORI) had already taken the bank card to four stores in Rotorua and bought alcohol, food, petrol, phone credit and cigarettes. News 24 headline: "Shock over Maori infant brutality" They have been scalded, burned with cigarettes, raped, had bones broken and been beaten unconscious, sometimes to death. Horrific cases of Maori youngsters - some under two years of age - being tortured, abused and KILLED BY MEMBERS OF THEIR OWN FAMILIES Among the grisly headlines that have dominated the nation's media over recent weeks are stories of a 28-month-old Maori girl in a coma after suffering severe head injuries, a broken arm, cuts, bruises and cigarette burns over most of her body. The toddler's 52-year-old grandmother was being held in prison on assault charges. Police in the central North Island town of Carterton are investigating the death a week ago of 23-month-old Maori girl Hinewaoriki Karaitiana-Matiaha who was sexually abused, scalded with hot liquid and beaten before being taken to hospital by relatives. The child, who was put in the care of her grandmother by the Child, Youth and Family Service after consultations with the toddler's family just short of her second birthday, was dead on arrival at Masterton Hospital late on Sunday, July 23. And last week, a coroner in the east coast town of Tauranga found that two-month-old Marcus Te Hira Grey died from a brain haemorrhage following a severe beating by his father. These cases follow the recent release of a report into the gruesome killing last April of four-year-old James Whakaruru, beaten to death by his stepfather for failing to call him Dad. The stepfather had been jailed once for assaulting the boy, but the youngster endured a lifetime of horrific beatings, despite being under the eye of various child welfare agencies, and his hellish existence went unnoticed. The proportion of extreme cases of brutality towards children among the Maori population - which makes up about 15 percent of New Zealand's 3.8 million citizens - is far higher than for any other ethnic group. New Zealand Hearald news headline 29 May, 2024 “Raglan man Simon Terence Hamiora Kereopa drags partner outside naked, pours boiling water over her“ Kereopa ( A MAORI) dragged her outside through the kitchen door by her arms, down the kitchen steps and onto the ground. He then grabbed the kettle, which was just inside the door, and poured the boiling water over the victim - who was naked at the time - directly onto her skin. As he did so, Kereopa told her “you deserve it, and that’s what you get”. He then told her he would reboil the jug and pour it on her face. She ran to seek help from her sister but she was asleep, before running into her daughter’s room and hugging her. Kereopa then went into the room and said, “once you let go, I’m burning your face”. Judge Stephen Clark noted Kereopa’s 17 family violence convictions, eight of which were against the current victim. The man responsible, Simon Terence Hamiora Kereopa, was today jailed for the incident, his ninth conviction against the victim during their 20-year-plus relationship. New Zealand Hearald News 14 Apr, 2024: During a torturous and prolonged night of violence, William James Whata (A MAORI) held his partner down and shoved his fist down her throat with such force that he broke her jaw. The attack came after the 48-year-old had tried strangling his partner multiple times. By the time emergency services arrived, the woman was discovered with numerous injuries including visible damage to her jaw. Now, Whata has been jailed for the violence which started when he went around to the victim’s property on March 4, 2023, despite having been issued a five-day police safety order. A CCTV camera at the property captured most of the events from that night, which began about 10pmwith the pair arguing in the lounge. The victim turned and walked away when Whata grabbed her, put his arm around her neck, and put her in a chokehold. She fell to the ground with Whata on top of her. He let her go and she got to her feet but he chased her back into the lounge where he tried to put another chokehold on her. She managed to push him off but fell to the ground and Whata took the opportunity to put her in another chokehold for about 7 seconds, causing her to go in and out of consciousness. As he held her down, Whata then kneed her in the head and torso four times and continued strangling her for about a minute. Once he let go, she again tried to run for her life, making it outside, but Whata chased her. Some time later he got a knife and followed her around the house with it as she carried out household tasks. He stood guard to ensure she didn’t push her domestic violence button and at one stage cornered her in the kitchen with the knife to her head and punched her. At 1.45am, Whata threw her through the open ranch slider and then held her down on the ground, before closing the door and curtains. While on top of her, he put his hand inside her mouth and pried apart her jaw with downward pressure for about 10 seconds. She begged him to stop and tried to push him off but he continued similar attacks for two more hours. Some time later in the morning she said she needed to use the toilet, where she pressed her panic button and alerted emergency services. St John paramedics discovered she’d suffered a broken jaw due to visible jaw drop, and had multiple cuts and swelling to her face.

[@theScotian24]

So the "natives" arrived when? Exactly. Intellectual conundrum isnt it.

[@MahereNuts]

@@theScotian24when did the “natives” arrive in the British isles?

[@johnjones4129]

A small correction….The Boyd was simply a cargo ship and definitely not a Royal Navy vessel with the prefix HMS.

[@TheEccentricIlliterate]

I came here to say EXACTLY this. Thank you.

[@dixonpinfold2582]

In fairness, that's a pretty major correction, not a small one.

[@peterk2455]

The Boyd was also a two masted Brig in 1809, not a four masted ship.

[@33mavboy]

Yeah would have been better if it was a Royal Navy vessel tho ay cuz.

[@philiprufus4427]

@@TheEccentricIlliterate I came here for an argument. You are merely contradicting me !

[@tysonpotter3205]

I’ve totally been hooked on this channel since I found it!!

[@robertnorton8519]

Never heard anything about this before, thank you it is very interesting

[@frakismaximus3052]

That was a fascinating look at colonial conflict in a very different part of the world than we are used to seeing on this channel. Well done!

[@JaemanEdwards]

The making of New Zealand is nearly as fascinating as the making of the USA. The Maori are on all top 10 greatest warrior cultures lists for a reason. The haka was no idle threat. The Maori fought a brutal 30 year war with the British. The colonialists had much admiration for the military nous of the Maori. The introduction of gunpowder sparked old intertribal conflicts, igniting into the Musket Wars between warring tribes that killed 40 thousand Maori. When the New Zealand Wars against the British Empire broke out, the Maori were already battle hardened, and battle tested. Masters at ambush, guerilla, siege, psychological and close quarter warfare they proved formidable opponents. Just as they did a century later against the Nazi's. Always heavily outnumbered and outgunned, the Maori used knowledge of the terrain, ingenuity, and trench warfare to neutralise the firepower discreprancies. This was 50 years before the famous trenches of WWI. Multi levelled zig zag trenches with hidden firing pits, tunnels, and bomb proof bunkers. They had flax covering their firing pits that the musket balls would just bounce off. With shotguns traded for from american sealers, and traditional bludgeoning and slashing weapons in their arsenal. Once the Maori could fool the enemy into close quarters combat.. It was over.

[@keltar4071]

Looks bluejar hurt your sensitive sensibilities. Why are you so morally outraged over a KZbin comment?

[@tanegurnick5071]

​@bluejar5614 well I haven't eaten anyone yet

[@tanegurnick5071]

​@@JaemanEdwardsmaori were. Look at the te wakatoto story ( my sons name sake

[@ruthlessgaming3869]

@@bluejar5614I would say historically Maoris were the most Cannibalistic people.

[@brycepardoe658]

Amazing video on the Boyd Massacre. I loved it! An additional fun fact. The people of the Boyd were friends with a tribe (Ngā Puhi) who avenged some years after the massacre. They also happen to be the traditional enemies of my tribe Ngāti Hikairo.

[@shable1436]

Have you heard of the white headhunter?

[@brycepardoe658]

@@shable1436 R u talking about cannibal jack or that Horatio guy?!?

[@thajackal2197]

That's cause ngapuhi are smart if we waited for your tribes we would have no treaty and ended up like aboriginal in Australia

[@brycepardoe658]

@@thajackal2197 I think Māori in general navigated things quite cleverly. The musket wars are the most important part of Aotearoa history in my view. It's because of the musket wars that the British failed to conquer the Māori. Because of the musket wars Māori were technologically on par with the British, incredibly wealthy, and had mastered the gun. They had developed tactics & strategies appropriate to modern warfare. For example they had redesigned their traditional pā to protect them against firepower. In fact only Māori could defeat Māori. This is why governor George Browne in the final years of the land wars put a ban on the colonial militia fighting. Instead only "loyalist" Māori were allowed to fight "rebel" Māori. My source for this is the book Kupapa: The Bitter Legacy of Māori Alliances with the Crown by Ron Crosby.

[@topbanana4013]

@@brycepardoe658 Chelsea fc

[@PhilipBurton-dn3ce]

Have you done one on the Maori genocide of the Moriori, very interesting

[@fate2decide21]

Have they done one on all the Engish genocides?

[@amreenazam9013]

I’m on the Māori side they dehumise is Muslims too

[@MahereNuts]

Yeah sounds like you need to learn about that😂

[@PhilipBurton-dn3ce]

What genocides?

[@MahereNuts]

@@PhilipBurton-dn3ce yup sounds like you need to learn about that ‘genocide’

[@superdave1921]

That was outstanding! Thank you.

[@tomortale2333]

ABOVE....THAT WAS DELICIOUS!..

[@mentalasylumescapee6389]

@@tomortale2333 liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti *sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp

[@michaellincoln3739]

History demonstrates that different native tribes the world over could be either friendly or vicious, just as different groups of whites could be kind or extremely cruel. We need this honest and non-biased factual reporting such as yours that brings out the truth of history in its historical context. The struggle between good and evil always lies with individuals, regardless of race or culture.

[@CorePathway]

Eat the Rich!

[@peterwebb8732]

@@CorePathwayIf you can afford the internet, by many standards you ARE the rich.

[@dixonpinfold2582]

@@peterwebb8732 How does spending $2 a day make you "rich"?🤨 _Two dollars a day._

[@johncarroll772]

​@@peterwebb8732😅😅😅😅😅

[@scottashe984]

No shit. I thought everyone already knew this.

[@JaemanEdwards]

As a Maori of the Nga Puhi tribe, I really appreciate you sharing our history with your patronage. The making of New Zealand is nearly as fascinating as the making of the USA. What was happening in America in the 1800s, was being mirrored on the other side of the world in NZ. And there are just as many stories to tell. Kudos to you. You did a great job. Top class narration and amazing editing, with interesting visuals, as per usual. You're definitely getting a few new subs coming at ya from down under. Whakawhetai koe.

[@JaemanEdwards]

@mrspecialk1234 A war between a colonial power and the indigenous natives. There was also intertribal warfare.

[@youtubeistrash2347]

Yall ate people

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@youtubeistrash2347 yes

[@romanhakaraia4420]

​@Cha4k A civil war was happening in America at that time. The maori tribal wars were civil wars amongst an indigenous people, which had been happening for hundreds of years in Aoteoroa/NZ before Europeans arrived. A terrible cycle of conquest and vendetta, human nature. Survival is the path to life and war is a Waka (vehicle). Ngapuhi paid reparations with their deaths, it was Ngapuhi, Tahoe, Taranaki and the Waikato who fought the empire. The ink used to sign the treaty of Waitangi represents the blood spilled by both Europeans and Maori that died in those wars. My family celebrates Waitangi Day like the Americans celebrate Independence Day, an end to war and the beginning of unity, albeit with a little inequality sprinkled in, well it could be worse I suppose.

[@Mercmad]

@@JaemanEdwards BullShit. I am Ariki and my GG grandfather was Chief of Ngapuhi and TeRarawa with familial connection to Tainui,Waikato ,Maniapoto and Ngati whatua. My GGG Grandfather was Tawhiao .Both men had fought each other for years( My GG grandfather and his cousin Hongi Hika had muskets ) and the marriage between Tawhiao's Daughter and My GG grandfather ,Haare Nepia Te Morenga took place to ensure peace. Tawhiao is an Ancestor on both sides of my Lineage,which means I am a direct descendent of all the Chiefs of Tainui and Maniapoto . Te Rauparaha being a 5 times great grandfather . So,My GG grandfather was one of the many chiefs ,#47 , who signed the Treaty,giving the protection of Queen Victoria to all of all Maori In New Zealand. Forget the lies propagated by those in Wellington over the last 40 years regarding the treaty, Maori were afforded far greater respect than would have been possible if they had of tried to fight off England.Instead they were given total protection. As your name is Edwards,I probably Know your Koro. 2023 will see if the Marxists triumph in the elections and their policy for separate government for Maori and non Maori is implemented,forcing Maori to lose the protection granted by the Queens Charter. And thus let loose the ancient enmities which have long boiled under the surface between Maori.

[@pazuzil]

wow this was really entertaining! I was spellbound until the end

[@JaemanEdwards]

Are you aware of the history of the Maori and the making of New Zealand ?

[@robertbertagna1672]

Thanks!

[@tihiking5450]

I have never watched a better video on KZbin, then that’s the best story I have ever heard so satisfying

[@theScotian24]

Relax.

[@lynnflynn5591]

I'm from the USA and found this video to be fascinating. We were never taught anything about New Zealand in school. After reading everyone's comments, it sounds like a whole different world from my country of origin. Thank you all for educating me. ✌️ 🇺🇸

[@melaroha8003]

don't believe everything you hear

[@Riffman08]

You have been mis educated,this is only the continuum of the colonialism of New Zealand that we as an indigenous peoples have to deal with today.go ahead an ask me where the obscurity in this video is

[@Matt-ze2xc]

Maoris were savage peace's of shit an not the 1st in new zealand

[@Justin.Martyr]

*Voting for DonaLd Trump is a "JUSTICE" Back Lash, against* *the DemoRATS for & their WAR Against TRUTH!!!!*

[@avacado4706]

@@Riffman08 hiii! :D I do not disagree with you, but im curious to what the obscurity is specifically?

[@neilshannon9930]

G'day there, this was great. Love your work. If you're looking for another story and prepared to drift a little further west, I've got one for you. There's a saying in australia..."you've got Buckley's chance" It comes from a escaped white convict that lived with an Aboriginal tribe for over 30 years. The details are fascinating. One being that not long after escape and becoming exhausted, he used a spear from a warriors grave as a crutch. The people that found him recognised the weapon and believed he was the spirit of the warrior and looked after him. There's not much on youtube about it in any depth. Anyway, thanks again. We all really enjoy your videos...take care folks

[@historyattheokcorral]

We did not know about this! We are planning to do more Australian and New Zealand history. Thank you!

[@adidog6243]

@@historyattheokcorral Further to @neilshannon9930, I would recommend "The Life and Adventures of William Buckley" by John Morgan. Originally published 1852.

[@andrewstevenson118]

@@historyattheokcorral Check out "Pukekohe East skirmish" in 1863. My family was involved in that, and my wife and I got married in that church. 🙂 May not fill an entire doco, but might be a good piece for the Crown's invasion of the Waikato earlier that same year. Also the wreck of HMS Orpheus (worst maritime disaster in NZ's history) which is related.

[@neilshannon9930]

@@historyattheokcorral Sorry mate, I should've wrote the name of the bloke. William Buckley as "Adidog" kindly mentioned. Hope you all had a good day, take it easy

[@frenzalrhomb6919]

@@neilshannon9930 Well there was always gunna be Buckley's bloody chance of that happening, eh? LOL

[@MichaelSmith-pp3wp]

Just think of the thousands of stories of native tribes fighting one another over the generations that have been entirely lost to history.

[@david9783]

Yup, lots of stuff we will never know. (But we do know that history tends to repeat itself.)

[@treboratat]

in NZ not lost historians don't want to listen to natives for what do they know, a lot of songs Haka speaks of our history so is not lost even our connections to the other island are known.

[@54Rocketeer]

Stone Age Cannibals although today that’s not mentioned whatsoever

[@JaemanEdwards]

How amazing that such a people, always heavily outnumbered and outgunned, could fight the British in a brutal 30 year war.

[@Matty18795]

​@@JaemanEdwardsThey weren't outnumbered. The British were outnumbered. The conflict was mostly guerrilla warfare and the conflict only lasted so long as the British were just maintaining positions and not actively trying to pursue larger forces across unsuitable terrain.

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@Matty18795 The Maori had a population of less than 200 000. You do the math. You don't sound very educated.

[@Johndoe-o5x8j]

@@Matty18795the Māori were outnumbered 😂 when battling the British. Partly due to the fact Māori were warring amongst each other. For centuries they fought man to man in hand to hand combat, hence why many Māori/Polynesians are of large stature (survival of the strongest). When British introduced muskets, the Māori population declined quickly and even then the British couldn’t exterminate them 🤣🤣🤣

[@jonathantepairi2664]

​@@Johndoe-o5x8jsadly my friend you are mistaken about the demise of the maori population, what decimated maori was cholera typhoid ,syphilis and other sexually transmitted disease ,and the flu all of which was attributed to sea faring sailors like whalers and sealers as well as the British soldiers who were taking maori wives

[@richardjohnson4696]

This story makes me question the Hawaiians who try to say that they didn't eat Captain Cook. They did, they ate him to consume his mana, they don't want to accept it as being true because they don't want to be viewed as savages, but, they were, this story alone tells you all you need to know.

[@ToheMangaMan]

You and so many others are WRONG. Human flesh was NOT eaten to "consume Mana" or because they were hungry. Eating human flesh was meant as an INSULT to the one being eaten....they didn't just call their enemies "a piece of shit", they turned them into shit...literally

[@bluddyrowdy8757]

@@ToheMangaMan Nonsense ( and cr@p ! ), There was a constant fight for Food amongst the Maori population - and ALL slaves ( pakeha or maori ) were eaten if food was Low...

[@richardjohnson4696]

@@ToheMangaMan So what you are saying is they truly were even bigger savages than people were led to believe?

[@sdb3039]

@@richardjohnson4696 you read my mind

[@konkolashata2750]

​@@ToheMangaManur right it's the same in Africa aswell. Earing an enemy is the ultimate insult to him

[@TheBranchez]

Wonderful video. To be honest I am not at all interested in the subject but this video popped up because I watched some of yours previously so I gave it a shot. Glad I did. Also subscribed.

[@paultyler7535]

Thats a really good photo of the Maori kid, cameras were better than i thought in 1800

[@trickydicky2908]

I like how you have expanded even farther West. Good episode!

[@georgelawson2663]

My mum is Maori my dad a Pakeha,was a pain in the back side as a half cast in the 50s early 60s coping crap from both sides, loved that hassling,always works out for the better. Peace to all.

[@kyleebeeton8109]

My mum was english and my dad Tasmanian Aboriginal Elder i know how that felt being subjected the same thing, but i was raised in the late 60s.

[@l.b.2592]

People suck as this horrible behavior is world wide. I hope you both are doing well.

[@nikobellic3856]

Know the feeling they have the choice to see us in two different ways

[@richardhenry1969]

I hope you continue with this history that is basically unknown to me. You're a very good story teller.

[@JaemanEdwards]

The making of New Zealand is nearly as fascinating as the making of the USA. What was going on in America in the 1800s was being mirrored on the other side of the world in NZ. A war between a colonial power and the indigenous natives. And there are just as many stories to tell. The Maori fought a brutal 30 year war with the British in the mid 1800s. They are on all top 10 greatest warrior lists for a reason. The haka was not an idle threat. Living on an isolated Island with no big game, the Maori had no range weapons. All fighting between tribes was close quarters. They even had their own martial art, mau rakau. This made them experts at hand to hand fighting. Like the Spartans, the Maori were trained from childhood in the art of warfare. When the white man introduced gunpowder, maori warfare adapted. Old intertribal conflicts were sparked, igniting into the Musket Wars. A war between warring tribes that killed 40 thousand Maori. This along with introduced european diseases decimated the population. In the mid 1800s, the Maori fought the British in a 30 year conflict dubbed the New Zealand Wars. The Maori were battle hardened and battle tested. The British had much admiration for the military nous of the Maori. Always heavily outnumbered and outgunned, the Maori used knowledge of the terrain, ingenuity, and trench warfare to neutralise the firepower discrepancies. This was 50 years before the famous trenches of WWI. Multi layered zig zag trenches with hidden firing pits, tunnels, and bomb proof bunkers. They had layers of flax covering their firing pits that the musket balls would just bounce off. With shotguns traded for from american sealers, and traditional bludgeoning and slashing weapons in their arsenal, once they could fool the enemy into a close quarters battle... It was over.

[@GrandpasRevenge43]

Wasn't enough though, was it?

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@GrandpasRevenge43 It's all just a part of what made NZ. I am a Maori of Swedish and Scottish descent. And proud of both heritages.

[@GrandpasRevenge43]

@@JaemanEdwards as you should be, I mean no offense.

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@GrandpasRevenge43 Ultimately logistics like having to hunt, farm, and gather, to feed the family while still fighting took a toll on the Maori. But they fought tooth and nail for their land leading to Maori being the best treated colonised indigenous people in history. Today Maori tribes are major land owners and are consultants to government organisations, businesses and land developers. Things are far from perfect, but there exists a certain harmony between Pakeha New Zealanders and Maori, best exemplified by the haka our sports teams do before games. Most NZers respect this tradition. And basic maori is taught in virtually every school in the country to all kiwi kids. Indigenous people from around the world see NZ and Maori as the standard to which they aspire.

[@patriciamercer9960]

This was fascinating information. Thank you 😊

[@JaemanEdwards]

The making of New Zealand is nearly as fascinating as the making of the USA. There are countless more stories from this part of the world that was mirroring what was happening in the states at the time. Pre european Maori had no range weapons (slings only) and fought exclusively in close quarters, making them experts in hand to hand fighting. They even had their own martial art, mau rakau. All males were trained from a young age in the art of war. When gunpowder arrived, the Maori adapted their warfare to suit. The introduction of guns reignited old intertribal conflicts sparking the Musket Wars which killed 40 000 Maori. This combined with introduced diseases decimated the population. In the mid 1800s the Maori and British embarked on a brutal 30 year conflict dubbed the New Zealand Wars. The British had much admiration for the military nous of the Maori. Always heavily outnumbered and outgunned, the Maori used knowledge of the terrain, ingenuity, and trench warfare to neutralise the firepower discrepancies. This was 50 years before the famous trenches of WWI. Multi layered zig zag trenches with hidden firing pits, tunnels, and bomb proof bunkers. They had flax covering their firing pits that the musket balls would just bounce off. With shotguns traded for from american sealers and traditional bludgeoning and slashing weapons at hand, once they could fool the enemy into close quarters.... It was over.

[@judithcampbell1705]

Fascinating history, and one I wasn't familiar with. Thank you 💛 for your excellent work 💛

[@JaemanEdwards]

There are so many more of these stories. The making of New Zealand is nearly as fascinating as the making of the USA. Maori, living on an isolated island, had no range weapons (slings only), so fought exclusively in hand to hand, close quarter combat. They even had their own martial art, mau rakau. When the British came, they brought guns sparking old intertribal conflicts resulting in the Musket Wars, where Maori tribes battled for supremacy. Forty thousand Maori died in these battles, and in combination with deadly introduced diseases, it decimated their population. In the mid 1800s the Maori and British Empire engaged in a brutal 30 year conflict labelled the New Zealand Wars. The British had much admiration for the military nous of the Maori. Masters at ambush, guerilla, siege, psychological, and close quarter warfare, they proved formidable opponents. Always heavily outnumbered and outgunned, they used knowledge of the terrain, ingenuity, and trench warfare, to overcome the firepower discrepancies. This was 50 years before the famous trenches of WW1. Multi layered zig zag trenches with hidden firing pits, tunnels, and bombproof bunkers. The musket balls would just bounce off the flax covering the firing pits. Ultimately logistics like having to hunt, farm, and gather, to feed the family whilst still fighting , took it's toll. The Maori fought tooth and nail for their land, subsequently leading to them being the most well treated colonised indigenous people in history. There is a reason Maori are on all top 10 lists of greatest warrior cultures. The haka wasn't just an idle threat.

[@mjanny6330]

@JaemanEdwards now tell them about the Dutch mercenaries that taught them that.

[@JaemanEdwards]

​@@mjanny6330Maybe you can enlighten us. You think the Dutch travelled around NZ training up the Maori to fight the British. 😂 Now thats a new one. What did the Dutch get out of it ? Did we teach them how to play rugby properly so they could take this knowledge back to South Africa ? 😂😂😂

[@maapauu4282]

​@@mjanny6330Mercinaries didn't teach Māori their style of warfare. It is Māori.

[@missdaisyyahoo]

That’s my Ancestors picture you have up there…Tukukino, the Chief with the Weka bird in his ear..

[@georgebeddows9696]

Great to see a story about my country. There are many cases similar to this between the Maori and the early explorers, both the english and french. Keep up the good work.

[@LeBungus]

@@bluejar5614 the only difference between this and the founding of America was we didn't eat the natives

[@ColonelMetus]

​@lebungus9181 the difference is that America was God's will

[@stfufool6703]

​@@LeBungus Well neither did the British or French.

[@shable1436]

​@@BrigitteMotu-xr2ddwhich? The maori?

[@bodybalanceU2]

@@ColonelMetus how delusional - only americans think its gods will when in reality they were just europeans invading another land as per usual with force

[@thewanderersguide4568]

The Maori ate anyone who wasn't from their immediate group, so they were treating the Brits exactly the same as they treated each other.

[@eugenemurray2708]

They would use the hands of the cannibalized as hooks to hold cooking utensils to lock the victim into a state of servitude for eternity

[@negativezero8174]

@@eugenemurray2708 That's so metal

[@bjrnterjesen651]

​@@eugenemurray2708Grim dark warhammer 40K shit right there 😂

[@JaemanEdwards]

Cannabilism wasn't a common practice. It was more ceremonial than anything else. And psychological warfare. It definitely occurred in abundance but was not par for the course. And in a country bereft of big game, it was a complimentary food source. Pragmatism. Very practical people the Maori.

[@thewanderersguide4568]

@JaemanEdwards as an anthropologist, I beg to differ. Exocannibalism in NZ was similar to Mesoamerica. It was psychological warfare for sure. In a warlike culture, and the Maori were (are) famously so, then tribal warfare will be almost continuous, and by all accounts it was. Once the culture goes down that road, it becomes acceptable any time we're stsrving - as long as it's people from another group. Trying to soften the brutality of the past, which was pretty much a global phenomenon, for modern people is, well, a modern approach to history.

[@andrewmaccallum2367]

Excellent video, thank you for this 👏👏👏

[@evilstorm5954]

Awesome episode. Great to see you can branch out and still excel.

[@hardtack8776]

Interesting & well done video 👍😊!

[@cierakitty]

Very well told and explained...nicely done.

[@BloodlessJG]

New Zealand history the government won't talk about or let make public openly. 🧐

[@nigelsheppard625]

Tragedy Strikes when they find the gun powder? It's a bit of an over reaction to a beating to murder and butcher several dozen people who had nothing to do with the decision to that beating. The real tragedy is that retribution was taken on people that had nothing to do with the Captains decision to beat Te Ara.

[@mjanny6330]

Not for the Maori. They preformed many such massacres, both against "pakeha" and other Maori Hapu.

[@lilfridge5652]

It's in their DNA

[@mjanny6330]

0:54 He wasn't chased away by trumpets. Maori Waka rammed his small boats, resulting in the deaths of a number of his crew. Thus the name "murders bay" on account of the random murder of his crew.

[@johnlaing9124]

Unfortunately, now in NZ. The lying labor government Arderns mob and the Maori party cabinet have been re writing our history and alot of these barbaric acts by the maori have been changed. To whitewash the true story. Murders bay is now called Golden.

[@RossKempOnYourMum01]

The Maori chief's boy on board the boat sounds like a little punk tbh.

[@teorewatepou1493]

he was clever. He out smarted the captain and crew .

[@speakupriseup4549]

Maori kid "Mum I hate the white man's guts" Maori Mum "ok fine, just eat his leg"

[@mjanny6330]

Imagine joking about eating other races lol. But expecting a place in parliament.

[@hapeta24]

@@mjanny6330 imagine travelling all over the world...invading countries and killing the occupants for the sake of power and greed then expecting them to be grateful and to become a part of your "commonwealth".

[@bodybalanceU2]

@@hapeta24 good one shut janny up 🤣

[@Johanna-iu6ly]

😂😂😂

[@MoreOnPleeez]

Every race has colonized. Including yours. ​@@hapeta24

[@johnnyjohnson1326]

As always, very informative episode!

[@DesmondSmith-bk4mz]

The British were cannabals too so don’t point the finger when they were worse

[@imnotracistbut-9559]

God I love this channel

[@ReklessRagnar]

There's a bay just down the road from me that's called cannibal bay. You can only guess how it got that name.

[@colonelfustercluck486]

down south (Kaka Point and The Nuggets) there is a Cannibal Bay, and 50 miles up the coast is 'Murdering Beach'.... must have named them to encourage people to visit !!!!

[@ReklessRagnar]

@@colonelfustercluck486 🤣

[@valdivia1234567]

So the Maori were floating around looking for new places to settle and stumbled on NZ. Then, a few hundred years later, the HMS Boyd was doing the same thing and they encountered each other and, as humans do, got into conflict.

[@ToheMangaMan]

I don't believe Maori were just "floating around", stumbling on New Zealand. I believe they used an ocean current they called "Hawiiki" which brought them down from the "Cook" Islands, close enough to land on and eventually settle Aotearoa.

[@valdivia1234567]

@@ToheMangaMan Sure, I simplified it, but they were on boats looking for new lands essentially. Is that correct?

[@ToheMangaMan]

@@valdivia1234567 Yes.

[@Gary-i9f]

Ive always thought no way could they row that distance and that must be a tall tail , but yes those currents i suppose like the high winds aircraft catch . So would you be thinking lots could have gone strait past nz onto Antarctica,.

[@bluddyrowdy8757]

@@Gary-i9f They didn't just ' row ' they had sails which were mainly used. There is a difference between ' coastal' whaka and ' ocean going' whaka

[@youkokun]

Some nasty comments notwithstanding, excellent video!

[@JaemanEdwards]

I haven't seen any nasty comments

[@mjanny6330]

What nasty comments?

[@taylorhine2962]

Great video. A lot of Pro-maori and anti-maori always try twist this story to fit their narrative but you just told the known facts

[@keastymatthew2407]

Agreed. Well said

[@henzypenzy8216]

Known to?

[@anthonymartinez4462]

That captain definitely was an a- hole cost many lives being vengeful and greedy. However, the Māori people needed to be civilized and stop practicing cannibalism and warfare against each other’s tribes.

[@taylorhine2962]

@@anthonymartinez4462 Agree, that's why it's best if māori and british (specifically, pākehā) work and learn together from both of our past mistakes. No more division between us but we have a long way to go

[@joanthewad7510]

@@anthonymartinez4462 How vengeful was the young Maori chieftain? Makes the other bloke look like a saint imho.

[@MrTangolizard]

So the mauri are from Polynesia interesting that they are classed as the natives yet people who came 400 years later are not

[@edwardhall2098]

The caucaian mountians is also where rape and lies where created many cultures did not no of these things till the pale man crossed them The pale man poison yet no color

[@JaemanEdwards]

You must be slow if you can't work that out.

[@MrLucidity]

Tell me about it... They get called 'indigenous' yet we get called 'colonists', when they are actually colonists too. Don't worry, you ain't the slow one...

[@khaelPikauterangiarthur9010]

That’s because my people were here first. Don’t think you’re a native 🤦‍♂️

[@MrTangolizard]

@@JaemanEdwards I’m slow because people who came from another place a little while before another group get called native ? Right I must be thick so please do explain that to me

[@mrperfectedkelly]

Not that it matters, but just to say the thumbnail pic shows Admiral Lord Nelson when he was a captain. Nelson was killed at Trafalgar 21st October 1805

[@davidstevenson9517]

It does matter. Thanks, Mr Perfect.

[@Huttworker]

nice one HTOC,

[@richardewels6280]

Fascinating.Thankyou.

[@edwinppw61]

Most my extended family are Maori ... my mother was Swedish in 16:32 background… She said, never criticise the Māori for being cannibals… If you know your own cultural, you will keep your mouth shut!😇

[@Cyril_Squirrel]

I'm not sure about the Maoris being criticised for cannibalism, I criticise our government for not acknowledging it.

[@edwinppw61]

@@Cyril_Squirrel political correctness is becoming a problem

[@iloveyoushima]

I criticise them for playing victim like a bunch of losers.

[@karlscher5170]

Your mother believed that Swedes practiced cannibalism? She was wrong.

[@mikerryan85]

Just goes to show that your actions have consequences. That captain made a vengeful enemy with the whipping of the boy & his greediness for the timber sealed his crew’s fate.

[@washemoamadah4706]

And the chieftains sons wish and lust for revenge caused his fathers death and and an attack on his village..

[@joanthewad7510]

That was standard naval discipline at the time. Doesn’t justify butchering and eating the entire crew.

[@shshlander7919]

​@@joanthewad7510I guess they learnt that consequences have actions.

[@washemoamadah4706]

@@shshlander7919 i do not think dead people take lessons to heart, on the account of being not alive..

[@mwqjdpk]

@@joanthewad7510it’s justified if it involves British colonialists and invaders.

[@jivekiwi]

This is really interesting. In NZ, the Musket Wars aspect with the Maori taking large amount of slaves isn't really taught at all. If you read old history books, you will know but modern New Zealand history books gloss over this part, especially the number of 40000 slaves although, of course nobody really knows the exact number that were killed or taken as slaves.

[@brycepardoe658]

I prefer the Māori word taurekareka to slave because slavery brings to mind the transatlantic slave trade which was completely different to the various practices of Māori. Remember Māori almost never took prisoners preferring to kill everyone they came across. The only exception to this was babies, children, pregnant women, & maybe mothers still breastfeeding their baby depending on the hapu. To me the musket wars is the most important part of Aotearoa history because it is why the British never conquered Māori. Because of the musket wars the Māori were wealthy, had more guns than people, were farming introduced plants (potatoes) and animals (pigs). It also meant that there was a lot of land. To me you can't understand the land wars without the musket wars.

[@jivekiwi]

Thanks for your reply Bryce. The aspect you brought up about the effect of the Musket Wars on the Land Wars is very interesting to me as well and also it's effect on the Treaty of Waitangi. Personally, I have been reading lately about the Nelson Tribes of Ngāti Rarua, Ngāti Koata, Ngāti Tama and Te Ātiawa on "The Prow" website and the 10th Reserves which were supposed to be set aside for Maori and I only came across it because they want to build housing in the Maitai Valley here in Nelson which I didn't know is actually Maori land which they let all Nelsonians use as a recreational area. Even though it a small area, the history of Nelson Maori is quite complex and very fascinating...actually, it quite annoys me that there isn't more recognition of Maori in Nelson (British monuments but no Maori for a start) but that is a topic for another day! Chur mate. Have a great weekend.

[@brycepardoe658]

@@jivekiwi Thank u! Yes well the musket wars are very important with regards to the treaty of Waitangi because the Māori were of the view that the treaty was a mutual defence treaty. The different rivalries left over from the musket wars is why different tribes chose to side with the British against other tribes. It makes perfect sense when u think about it. Tribe A had massacred tribe B therefore when tribe B had an opportunity to have British backing in going to war against tribe A they naturally relished in the opportunity. The musket wars was like putting a fire to a powder keg because things absolutely exploded. Long time rivalries became full blown wars with the wars only ending once everyone was more or less technologically on par. The injection of British colonists with their incredible wealth was again another light to a powder keg because British backing meant tribes now again had an advantage over their enemies. Appreciate the insight have a good weekend.

[@funtimesatbeaverfalls]

@@brycepardoe658 They took plenty of people as slaves because they were a useful commodity, it just depended on the value of the person captured. if you knew a trade and could service muskets they would keep you alive, and if you aided the tribe in battle they would even consider you worthy to marry one of their own. But more commonly they would work you to death and then eat you. So, not much different to the slave trade really. Also there is no evidence that the British planned to attempt to conquer the Maori, because if it were true it would have come to pass. To the largest Empire in history it would have been a walk in the park if they made a concerted effort. I am currently reading three books on the subject of the NZ wars and history, I might start my own mini library.

[@brycepardoe658]

@@funtimesatbeaverfalls The issue of Māori slavery is much more nuanced than u r portraying. I recommend two books on this subject. The first book is Outcasts of the Gods? The Struggle Over Slavery in Māori New Zealand by Hazel Petrie & Pākehā Slaves, Māori Masters : The Forgotten Story of New Zealand's White Slaves by Trevor Bentley. Both books deal with the issue of Māori slavery. First and foremost they tended to kill people rather than take them as prisoner. When they did take people prisoner it usually as part of a prisoner exchange program or because the person was high born. For the most part it was because the person was high born. As Petrie shows in her book what is commonly called "slavery" was actually a wide variety of practices such as mokai (community service or penal labour,) awhia (vassals or serfdom), tautoko (a system of debt & credit), & puongo (caste obligation) for example a tutua (commoner) whanau having a family member act as a personal servant to a rangatira. The most common type of "slave" during the musket wars & the land wars were taurekareka (POWs). Other times slaves were whangai meaning they captured people to supplement their own numbers. These people that were incorporated into the tribe would be of a low caste. As for the British trying to conquer the Māori that's a more complex issue. In the book "The Path to the Treaty of Waitangi: Te Ara Ki Te Tiriti" by Paul Moon the British home office never wanted to conquer Māori. As laid out in the book the colonial NZ government absolutely did want to conquer Māori however they failed in this effort. According to James Belich in his books "I Shall Not Die: Tītokowaru’s war, New Zealand, 1868-9" & "The New Zealand Wars and the Victorian Interpretation of Racial Conflict" the British lost every war & in fact every engagement against the Māori save two battles (Rangiriri & Orakau) because of far superior numbers both of which ended in stalemates & the dog war which lasted one week. As the book "Warfare Before Civilization: The Myth of the Peaceful Savage" by Lawrence Keely the British were totally inept when it came to warring against Māori. This isn't exclusive to Māori as Keely demonstrates in his book as multiple other indigenous groups successfully defended themselves and their lands against European colonists. The reason the white people ended up with all the land ultimately at least according to the book "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by Jared Diamond is because of disease. With them came many different diseases for which the indigenous had no immunity to. Think of the impact COVID has had on the entire world. Now imagine many COVIDS that are deadlier.

[@jamesbell7809]

Probably gonna be like that movie bone tomahawk 😮

[@ryanwilson8323]

More colonial Australian and New Zealand content please!🐨🥝🦘🇳🇿🇦🇺

[@CuchulainAD]

Moral of the story stay out of other people's business.

[@mis4nthr0p3]

Funny how when a battle occurs between colonialists and natives where the colonialists win, it's called a "battle". But when the natives win it's called a "massacre".

[@philiprufus4427]

The H M S Boyd The HIS/HER Majestys Ship.Don't some writers know,the definate article never goes before the personal pronoun in English. H M S always stand alone,hence H M S Hood His/Her Majestys Ship' Im Deutche S M S, Seiner Majesties Schiff.

[@eugenemurray2708]

@@mis4nthr0p3 How is butchering the occupants of a trading vessel a battle? When Somali pirates attack a cargo ship is that a battle? ngl you're gonna pull a muscle with the sorta stretching you are doing, js.

[@James-ip8xs]

​@@mis4nthr0p3The British were under no impression that the Maori were adversaries when they were attacked, rather the opposite. So from a European perspective it was not a battle.

[@spudspuddy]

why you put Admiral Nelson in your thumbnail? He wasn't eaten

[@spudspuddy]

@@damionkeeling3103 it was amputated

[@DestinationTravel]

The real history of NZ is so much more fascinating than the politically motivated 'history' taught by the left wing feminists who have been running New Zealand's education since the 1970s. If you want to know what actually happened go back to original source material written at the time. Captain Cook has amazing things to say. There were far more foreign visitors to NZ than just Abel Tasman and Capt Cook and also Maori sailed from Northland to their northwest and visited other Pacific islands for example. Maori also eagerly joined ship crews and travelled widely. In 1840 for example Sydney's population was 5% Maori. In pre-1840 NZ there was also many visitors from Bengal and south-east Asia which is never mentioned by 'educators'.

[@JaemanEdwards]

Wow, so the Maori were slaying the white Aussie girls even way back then.

[@DestinationTravel]

@@JaemanEdwards I guess they were. Dr Weston A Price who studied NZers health in the 1930s commented that New Zealanders were both the best and worst people (in terms of health) in the world. The Europeans were physically ruined by processed foods and the rural Maori who stayed on their native diet were the best physical specimens he saw. You should read his book if you want to be healthy.

[@teorewatepou1493]

Left wing lol. Nah mate all New Zealand governments that have been in power.

[@snapdragon9300]

The celtic ancestors of the British also did cannibalism too.😂And I'm saying this as a Nz descendant of them.

[@rodgerhargoon3402]

So I have heard that their flesh has a hint of good old stilton cheese 😂😂

[@joshp2080]

A very early historical documentation of " fk around and find out"

[@RobCraig-wf3yi]

Well presented, excellent 👍

[@historyattheokcorral]

Many thanks!

[@RobCraig-wf3yi]

@@historyattheokcorral no problems, Our national history is rich to say the least. I believe more if it is taught in the schools now then when I was a pup. Although being a nerd I have a good understanding of it. Perhaps you could look at a doco on "Te Kooti" the prophet. His story lasted many years of the 19th century

[@mrcyberfish1]

I live down the road from Alexander Berrys house at Shoalhaven Heads. Thomas Davis drowned not far fom here. Thanks for the story I picked up some information I didn't know.

[@tophat2115]

Almost all British sailors were impressed into service, they were not volunteers. They were paid but their time aboard a ship was because they were hauled away from another ship, a port, or were criminals who were given a choice, hang or work from the Navy.

[@Renone87]

This is a fact overlooked by today leftist

[@kenneth9874]

Yes, "press gangs" were a reality to be avoided

[@jakemcnamee9417]

These stories are so good and entertaining that they would make good movies adopted exactly as told.

[@JaemanEdwards]

Yes. If you search there are movies set in this era. Not big Hollywood blockbusters though. Utu and River Queen are two. One came out in the 80s. The latter in maybe the early 2000s. They give a glimpse into what is was like. A big budget movie about the New Zealand Wars would be epic. A brutal 30 year between the Maori and the British where Maori used knowledge of the terrain, ingenuity, and trench warfare to neutralise the firepower discrepancies. You will see this in River Queen. The latest movie that came out a few years ago, The deadlands, is sort of an action, mystical, kung fu type movie, set in pre european times which is not an accurate depiction.

[@tanyaanne9229]

I wish Mel Gibson wasn’t cancelled by Holllywood he would be the perfect person to create a movie about this story

[@ruthlessgaming3869]

@@JaemanEdwardsThose two movies are set in the New Zealand Wars. This is during the musket wars.

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@ruthlessgaming3869 They were one after the other. So when you're talking about history, it's the same era.

[@michael3088]

@@tanyaanne9229 Mel Gibson always has a very anti british bias though idk. The patriot was good but it was so inaccurate it wasn't funny, you know the scene when they burn the church? It never happened.

[@adamstephenson7518]

Great video 🤙

[@racspartan1]

Great Video 👍

[@martinharris5017]

Good to see history told objectively and honestly. Sadly we are generally taught a "Colonials bad Maori good" narrative, but reality is never that two-dimensional. There were good and bad deeds performed by all sides.

[@Saiyan4eva]

Ignorant much!

[@martinharris5017]

@@Saiyan4eva Practice your English or respond in your own language so I can respond using a translation tool. "Ignorant much" does not make sense :)

[@Saiyan4eva]

@@martinharris5017 Ok kefe Mata usi lol...😅

[@ddc2957]

I live in Australia “Māori good” yeah good at filling up prisons.

[@libgapper9761]

Yes we'll said. Also the massacre of the chatnams island in 1835 is also pushed to the side but 2000 moriori killed, eaten and enslaved isn't something to miss

[@GermanicJennifer]

Can someone tell me how Te Ara came to be in Australia in the first place?? It’s so far from his home I’m curious to know how he got there

[@TrustinGodaydays]

@GermanicJennifer- Hi my understanding is Te Ara was on an exchange arrangement not unsimular as exchange programs today , this may seen strange for the times but Maori were very bright innovative and very interested in trading and open to new opportunities these qualities facilitated these such arrangements.

[@GermanicJennifer]

@@TrustinGodaydays oh I see, very interesting! thank you for responding

[@TrustinGodaydays]

I am a New Zealander and my dear Wife is Maori and I have learned to be respectful and understand the thinking of Te Ara.

[@HaroldVonUberSchlong]

​@lesliekevinhuddleston2142 Because it's so understandable to murder and eat dozens of people because you got wipped. Yeah, that's completely understandable....

[@craigbrown7956]

1807 Captain Wilkinson of the whaler Star after dropping off sealing gangs at Islands South sheltered from a storm at Stephenson Island, the following day was surprised to find his ship was surrounded by friendly Maoris wanting to trade, he took a small boat to check the harbour entrance then headed south again to replenish the sealing gangs. He returned with the purpose of exploring Whangaroa Harbour for its potential. He talked with Chief Kaitoke who ruled the district and took on board a young Maori named Te Ara to whom the crew named George. 1814 Samuel Marsden met with the Whangaroa chiefs, Te Ara {George} of the Kaeo people and explained that the ill-treatment he received was the cause of the Boyd disaster. Marsden also spoke with Te Puhi about the Boyd and declared himself satisfied that the Bay of Islands Chief Te Pahi{originally blamed} had no hand in the affair. Page 46 "Whangaroa" by E V Sale ISBN 0 473 00387 2 Published 1986 Whangaroa Book Committee PO Box 193 Kaeo NZ

[@adambamf9365]

aint alot of the houses in sanfrancisco kauri ?

[@monkeymalletsvideos]

Where is the documentation of this?

[@craigbrown7956]

It's a well-documented story, part of Alexander Berry's own account goes......"I inquired of the chiefs if there were any survivors, to which they readily replied in the affirmative mentioning the names with great familiarity, and even with an appearance of kindness and sympathy. They were then informed we had come to Whangaroa for the purpose of delivering the captives. I then pointed to my men and their muskets on the one hand, and to the heaps of axes on the other, bidding them take their choice, and either deliver the captives peaceably, when they should be paid for their ransom, or I would otherwise attack them. The Chief, after a moment's hesitation, replied with great quickness that trading was better than fighting, then give us axes and you shall have your prisoners. The next morning the natives, agreeable to promise, brought to our quarters a young woman and her suckling child, and a boy belonging to the vessel about 15 years old On enquiring of the female, whether there were any other survivors, she mentioned the infant daughter of Mr Commissary Broughton, with whose family I was intimately acquainted. I, therefore, applied to the chief demanding its restitution, he replied that it was in the possession of the chief of the island at the entrance of the harbour. So the child who was Betty Broughton was eventually delivered up tolerably clean, with its hair dressed and ornamented with white flowers" The Boyd was captured and burnt in 1809 with Betty's rescue in 1810 "Whangaroa " by E V Sale ISBN 0 47300387 2 Published 1986 Whangaroa Book Committee PO Box 193 Kaeo NZ

[@tiggy2timez]

I'm curious too. The only people who couldve given a detailed account of what we've just heard, would've only been the Maori, up until receiving the POV from the Big guy, couple bays over, who came to the rescue after hearing about the Massacre. The four surviving prisoners - the woman two babies and the only last male crew member, had noway of knowing what transpired after their capture unless they understood the language & was privy to the chiefs council. 🤷🏾‍♀️...so then Are we to assume western historians making up stories as per usual, to justify their takeover? Every tribe has an orator, who passes kowledge of events/history orally through the generations. Maybe this is one of those situations. Luckily, it can be confirmed by the descendants from the tribes who were involved.

[@davethewave7248]

New Zealander here. I believe the English name of Te Ara was George. His psychology was interesting and gives an insight into the race - easily wronged, a deep-seated sense of grievance that is nursed, and massive overkill when finding revenge. The tribal wars/ musket wars are the most bloodthirsty you will come across... and would serve to provide your channel with many gruesome episodes. Here was a people that really needed civilization and Christianity indeed... especially when some tribes acquired muskets while others hadn't yet. In 1840, the treaty with Britain was signed [episodes such as this put them off colonization for quite some time], which changed all this. Sadly, many people in the country today want to repudiate it... insisting that the chiefs never ceded their sovereignty. There's another episode for ya~~

[@suemcgregor9248]

They were already civilized and no-one needs colonisation, obviously a different set of rules was forced on them but Maori already had a society that worked for them

[@davethewave7248]

@@suemcgregor9248 If you really want to know the facts instead of believing what you want to, I suggest a reading of 'The Musket Wars' by R Crosby. Maori tribes before the advent of civilization were at continual warfare with one another... which was largely ritualized.. Once muskets came along, this warfare turned into the absolute slaughter of some tribes by others. It was truly horrific.

[@malcolmhayward4431]

@@suemcgregor9248seriously? sorry that’s delusional

[@shauntempley9757]

Well, the chiefs did not cede sovereignty. They signed it to ensure the tribes did not destroy each other.

[@davethewave7248]

@@shauntempley9757 The inter-tribal/ musket wars came to an end with the signing of the treaty [they were sick to death of the sluaghter... plus southern tribes were coming for their utu]. Why? Because chiefs no longer had the absolute mana to do what they like as they had beforehand. They discussed the pros and cons, but in the end decided law and order was the way to go. This involved the ceding of sovereignty. As explained to an east coast chief: From the journal of Major Bunbury, who travelled throughout the country collecting signatures - "He endeavoured then to explain the meaning by a sort of diagram on a piece of board [to chief Te Hapuku], placing the Queen by herself over the chiefs as these were over the tribes. I told him it was literally as he described it, but not for an evil purpose as they supposed, but to enable her to enforce the execution of justice and good government equally amongst her subjects….. Captain Nias ordered a gun to be fired, at their request, and having signed the treaty and received some blankets and tobacco as a present, they were put on shore in a native village in the Bay."

[@goodyeoman4534]

Like the North American Indians aren't truly native to the states, the Maori were not truly native to NZ. Neither were the Brits, ofc, but that just means the land is fair game to anyone until an official state and government is established, which is what the Brits did.

[@lockk132]

Dunno about the American Indians,however the Maori I agree.They were just here first and have only been here 600 years longer than the Pakeha colonisation

[@bodybalanceU2]

as Maori were the first people of Aotearoa they are the indigenous people whether you like it or not even though the colonists want us to believe that the british are the true owners of the land - white privilege rhetoric

[@innsmouthresident6802]

@@bodybalanceU2 Read your original treaty ! not the current political spin.

[@bodybalanceU2]

@@innsmouthresident6802 the original treaty states Maori no other native people

[@Tepaneca]

Whoever was there first are the native people. Keep that energy for the Muslims and Africans replacing you in Europe 😊

[@grahamebeal3230]

I grew up in NZ in the 60's with English parents and Maori history was our history and everyone was proud of it. What the hell has happened

[@leewright7623]

I think people want the unadulterated truth of ALL migrations and conflicts not the filtered versions.

[@rowbearly6128]

@@leewright7623 No they don't. If they did, they'd be interested enough to use the fkn internet to research for themselves. They don't do that. They want a version that suits their precoceptions, stories that suit "modern audiences" , things that neatly echo their contemporary political positions.

[@JaemanEdwards]

​@@rowbearly6128Very strange take. You make no sense. Race relations weren't great in the 60s.

[@flyinghigh2701]

Critical race theory and wokery

[@flyinghigh2701]

​@@JaemanEdwardsin America maybe

[@dreinhard52]

very interesting , I live 15 minutes north of Whangaroa Harbour .

[@seanprice8442]

Incredible effort to find a colour photo of the young Maori man from hundreds of years ago.

[@JaemanEdwards]

Doubtful that he's even Maori. Could be a Native American from central or Sth America.

[@davidstevenson9517]

Especially considering photography wasn't even invented until 1840s and with crude,blurry, brown imagery.

[@MrSonnyglover]

Its a painting 😂

[@blacknapalm2131]

*They never met a visitor they didn't like.........to eat*

[@dansuperbee3321]

Sadly NZ will not face facts when it comes to history, but rather re-write history to fit a narrative. Maori were never indigenous to NZ. Maori leaders begged the King of England to to send troops to save them from themselves. Maori were stone age, they killed with stone, they carved with stone, they created with stone. Whilst Europe had cathedrals maori had huts, whilst Europe had steel and alloys maori had sticks and stones. Its not racist to bring to light Olive trees over 400 years old in NZ, its a fact and they did not float to NZ. Its not racist to show European structures that were built in NZ hundreds of years ago... but what is racist is the NZ govt to close a forest in order to hide facts that Maori were not indigenous.

[@JaemanEdwards]

Maori are on all top 10 greatest warrior cultures lists alongside the Spartans and Samurai for a reason. One Maori warrior was the equivalent of five british soldiers.

[@tashuntka]

For one man's whipping.... Not to say it was right, no no. Just admiring the domino effect of human nature. On an aside, the Maori destroyed the indigenous people who were there before them. The few survivors were assimilated and were known as the pale skinned red haired Maori later on, still popping out in hereditarial flashes still today...

[@edwardhall2098]

No

[@edwardhall2098]

Just stop moriori came after te kupu

[@JaemanEdwards]

Another crackpot theory.

[@bodybalanceU2]

@@JaemanEdwards there is plenty of them with these comments - europeans who cant bear that Maori were the first people of nz - have to make their own history up to justify their ancestors invasions and massacres over the past few centuries against indigenous people - ive even had crack-pot people denying the indigenous australians as the first people of australia as europeans would have got there first???? the neanderthal never migrated past europe - clutching straws the lot of them!!

[@geo.2729]

The 'Boyd' and the 'City of Wellington' mentioned in the narative were both civilian merchant ships and not Royal Navy. (and would/should not be prefixed with 'HMS')

[@rschiwal]

British Colonizers: "What happened to the original inhabitants of these islands? Maori: "We ate them." British Colonizers: "I say, old chap. Normally we just conquer, but this time, Let's SHARE this island." Maori: "Fine by me. Soup for days!" Brits: "By the way, have you seen Corporal McDonald? He's rather portly. We call him Big Mac." Maori: "So did we."

[@rschiwal]

@tsa3b So... Polynesians murdered, ate and displaced other Polynesians, but that's OK because they're Polynesian?

[@johnsmith6092]

It would still be a wasteland here if the British Colonisers as you call them some my Ancestors had not come to NZ

[@johnsmith6092]

@tsa3b Wrong the Morioris were here first

[@teorewatepou1493]

@@johnsmith6092Moriori are Maori.

[@clydesimpson1462]

@@johnsmith6092 When the first Maori arrived in New Zealand they talked of the Red Haired People already living there. Why are there NO-GO Zones in New Zealand, where there is evidence of this. None of this is taught in schools because the N.Z. Government does not want to rewrite history.

[@jonathanwright5550]

Maori didnt rule over new zealand... they were a bunch of tribes that fought each other.... no united group...

[@jonathanwright5550]

@braxtondavis1739 yeah sure mate

[@jonathantepairi2664]

@jonathanwright5550 that's why pakeha or tauiwi all throughout the European world, white man slaughtered whiteman for Scotland to be recognised as its own country or America rebelling against the brittish and let's not forget all the. ukrainian men and women fighting against russia ,,,listen bro,,,, maori may not be as civilised as you seem to want us to be but we did have a civilised society we had healers for our medical needs (tohunga) we had chiefs as our politicians and law makers ,and warriors for our defence and know this we also had overseas trade too , ,,my point sir is ,,well every country has inter tribal battles of some form and like it or not what ever ethnic background you possess there was conflict,,,,, your kind of thinking is a very long stretch from reaity and to me sounds oddly racist and offence to me

[@jonathanwright5550]

None of my statement is racist... again no united national wide tribe...

[@friedrichkass1644]

Yes, definitelly! The Maori tribes were fighting each others in bloody tribal wars. They were a war-based societies, same like with the native indians in the Americas. Each of the Maori tribes were under the leadership of a clan chief, who were often distinct origin from the common people. They were the blue-blooded elites, the aristocracy. The Maoris also made ritual cannibalism, devoured war prisoners in a big feast, and eat some portion of them to gain power. It was by any means a fierce society.

[@THP999]

​@jonathanwright5550 which countries are united from top to bottom? Most tribes had allies and foes. It wasn't a free for all. Today in Western societies most people are blue team or red team, what's the difference?

[@thebruffy1077]

Chatham Island genocide?

[@colonelfustercluck486]

some North Island Maori sailed across to the Chatham Islands (east of mainland NZ) occupied and island. Up until then the Maoriori people lived there. The Maoriori had a culture of no fighting, and everything was to be settled according to civilised rules. At worst, 2 people would fight. But not the whole village..... that sort of thing. The invading Maori didn't give a shit about that and just took over the place. The last full blood Maoriori died in the late 1950's. By 'Occupation' I mean killing, starvation, deprivation of hunting grounds etc.... it is well documented.

[@ArchieJS96]

“The duration of peace is in direct proportion to the slaughter you in inflict upon the enemy. The harder you hit them, the longer they remain quiet.”

[@JaemanEdwards]

What point are you trying to make Confucious ?

[@darrentinonzii340]

Pls do Tonga Samoa one pls!!

[@JaemanEdwards]

What war did they fight ?

[@darrentinonzii340]

@@JaemanEdwards tonga and samoa are 2 separate countries. Tonga ruled samoa for awhile

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@darrentinonzii340 Yeah right. Now that I remember, I overheard a Tongan workmate maybe talking about this and maybe war against Fiji as well. I could be wrong.

[@lawildman1]

I live in nz and throughout the world they are portrayed as a happy peace loving people,the reality is far from that statement,they beleive they should be ruling equally and given precedence in many things due to their heritage,when will people wake up.

[@johnfielding29]

100 percent correct

[@caravanstuff2827]

They are..their selling up and moving to Australia!!!.💔🇳🇿

[@bashkillszombies]

Did you know modern day Kiwi's brainwash their kids that Maori weren't cannibals? Not one I've met knows they're violent cannibals. They behaved like wild animals prior to contact, and still do to this day for the most part.

[@taylorhine2962]

And there's nothing you can do about it 😂😂😂

[@Interislander957]

Sure Jan.

[@Alex-cs7rq]

​@@taylorhine2962hardly anything to be proud of

[@JDaicos280]

I didn't know a bird called "Kiwi's could brainwashed children's minds 😂😂😂😂

[@JDaicos280]

Like the Catholics Priest fiddling with little boy's are they always like that? Caucasian peoples?

[@jamesmills4850]

A dignified cannibal? I don't see any dignity in murdering men, women and children, and eating them. Yes, women and children were also on the Maori menu. The Maori arrived on what is now called New Zealand, and immediately went about massacring and eating the Red Head peoples who were already inhabiting the islands at that time. I know this to be true because these events are kept alive in the Maori oral traditions. Recently a group of people were discovered, ethnically different from the Maori, with fair skin and red hair and who are still clinging on to parts of the north island to this day. They are genetically related to the Medes and Parthians.

[@jacobb9486]

The Monica Matamua case, if that lady is telling the truth why don't they release the results so they can be properly examined then? And why if she speaks a language unknown to the world did they not record a single word of it for their "documentary", it surely would have been groundbreaking stuff. Without any look at the dna her red hair is most likely from mixing after Europeans arrived. If you travel up and down nz you'll find no shortage of maori ppl who have some wild ideas about their past, some believe they come from Egypt, or even the lost tribes of Israel lol for real tho if the real evidence is there they need to publish it it would be wild but so far it looks like the documentary makers grabbing on to a story that fits nicely with what they already believe

[@JaemanEdwards]

​@@howardj602I know. This lost individual who is so selective with their moral outrage. He's not to be taken serious.

[@jamesmills4850]

@howardj602 I am Catholic Irish and don't approve of any empires, regardless of their ethnic backgrounds. Do you? I don't believe so. Otherwise you'd have also condemned the Islamic subjection of India. How many Indians died at the hands of Muslims and their empires? But all of that has nothing to do with my original comment. I wrote a comment which was specific to the subject of Moari's killing and eating people. You then ignored this and changed the subject with your whataboutery comment which has zer to do with cannibalism. Do you condemn all empires? Do you condemn eating people? You still haven't said.

[@jamesmills4850]

@JaemanEdwards Provide me with the evidence for your absurd accusation. And, why am I not to be taken seriously because I wrote a completely truthful statement?

[@mjanny6330]

@howardj602 you might want to look into that lol. And death was hardly a foreign concept to those dignified people. They'd been dignified in the face of it for their entire existence as a people.

[@chicagogyrl4846]

Background music is not needed. It’s distracting.

[@historyattheokcorral]

It stays.

[@BroMark1611]

Good. Subbed.

[@Iconictem]

Do one on red cloud vs the pawnee scouts how he was captured

[@JaemanEdwards]

Yes

[@ItsCrap97]

Who knew Morgan Freeman was a Maori cannibal before being an actor

[@davidstevenson9517]

Has he ceased the practice?🍗🍉

[@ducksinarowpatience]

Great! New sub!

[@DTASEVAL]

I never came across this in school, great epic!

[@claytondennis8034]

No good deed goes unpunished. RIP Chief Te' Pahi

[@tomortale2333]

dod they use salt an pepper /seasoning sauce....burp....tasty....

[@JaemanEdwards]

​​​@@tomortale2333They would have had salt and pepper by this stage, bartered for from the British settlers and american sealers among others.

[@kukuri007]

They had no way of knowing.

[@dzzzzbutube]

@@tomortale2333 Like the Australian Aboriginies, the Maori often preferred sailor meat for it's saltiness as sailors had a diet of salted meat.

[@ToheMangaMan]

@tsa3b The act of eating human flesh was meant/done/performed as an insult to the one being eaten. When Maori called their vanquished/beaten enemies a "piece of shit" they meant it "literally" and turned them into just that...."a piece of shit".

[@TheEccentricIlliterate]

This is what I'm talkin' about!!

[@marketablepresentations7824]

I remember hearing the term musket wars back in school. Although I couldn't tell you what they were about until today from listening to this documentary. 😂😂 This is why I love documentaries such as these.😊

[@paulmurphy216]

There's a book, "The Forgotten War" by Ron Crosby that covers the Musket Wars very well. It's not very long (approx 200 pages) or overly comprehensive. In a nutshell, it's what happened when modern weaponry was introduced to a society that wasn't ready for it: the same conflicts don't disappear, they just escalate. It's important to our history because the slaughter(s) that resulted were a huge factor in petitioning the British government (who, despite the popular, revisionist narrative, were reluctant to make NZ a colony) for a Treaty and in Maori enthusiasm to sign it and come under British rule. PS: again, despite the revisionist narrative, it was NOT the British government that gave muskets to the tribes. It was traders and gun runners. Maori agents also went to Australia to purchase the weapons.

[@libgapper9761]

​@@paulmurphy216well said! Your very brave. There's alot of people twisting and changing our history to suit there agenda . Pre treaty history is suppressed and it needs to be kept alive as all history needs to stay correct

[@David-mh2jn]

Is that a British and French flag, or Dutch flying together on the same ship?

[@jamesryan4325]

This is the first time I've heard of this and I'm a NZer. If you mention this you will be called racist I bet. The current Maori control the narrative

[@davidstevenson9517]

I too am an NZer...with a library card. This stuff is old hat to this Intellectual. Anyway, why mention it. If every Kiwi had a library card and used it, we would all know this and wouldn't NEED to mention it.

[@jamesryan4325]

@@davidstevenson9517 I knew of the incident but didn't know the details. I've actually got a copy of Michael Kings History of NZ waiting to be read - I'm sure it's detailed there...

[@JaemanEdwards]

​​@@jamesryan4325That's right we control the narrative. So you better watch your step.

[@jamesryan4325]

@@JaemanEdwards Threatening violence? Stepping pretty low

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@jamesryan4325 So why don't you report me then ? You seem like the type.

[@michaeldean1289]

Hi mate Great piece of work! Just another story of being part of the British Commonwealth! Our Kiwi brothers copped it pretty hard for the sake of sovereignty. The Maori wars of 1845-72 where even Australian colonial volunteers troops part of British regiments fought in, were just an example of British domination. Thank God it’s just Rugby Union now!!! Keep up your great work ❤😊

[@JaemanEdwards]

The British have never dominated rugby

[@makeytgreatagain6256]

@@JaemanEdwardstheir descendants dominate it regardless

[@michaeldean1289]

@@Cha4k hi mate hearing you of course bro I’m only talking about the Māori wars, not WW1 or WW2. I have an issue about Britain using and abusing ‘their’ Commonwealth countries of old. Boer wars, and Gallipoli campaign are prime examples where ANZAC troops are under overall British command, and stupid sacrifices. Cheers 😎

[@michaeldean1289]

@@Cha4k PS. I’ve got relations living in Wellington, one Daughter-in-law who is Kiwi and another who is South African. National pride is my only concern bro’

[@makeytgreatagain6256]

@@Cha4k New Zealand is a white country today because British took over the island clearly the Māori got dominated it is what it is

[@WyomingTraveler]

Wow, that was a shift, from Texas to New Zealand. Still, it was interesting.

[@JaemanEdwards]

The making of New Zealand is nearly as fascinating as the making of the USA. Just like there are countless stories of the wild west, there are just as many stories set at the same time, happening on the other side of the world, which mirrored what was happening in the USA.

[@mjanny6330]

@JaemanEdwards yep, NZ was the "hellhole of the Pacific" up until the 1890's

[@PaisleyPatchouli]

Fascinating history here.

[@JaemanEdwards]

Are you unaware of the history of the Maori ?

[@JaemanEdwards]

@braxtondavis1739 Most people know the haka

[@charleswaaka4539]

If some one came to your house or land in a disrespectful way What would u do ?

[@eugenemurray2708]

If someone stole your cutlery off your boat what would you do?

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@eugenemurray2708 Easy. Take it back. Are you a bit slow Eugene ?

[@damionkeeling3103]

Have patience if they didn't know better.

[@teorewatepou1493]

@@eugenemurray2708but did they steal the cutlery. I think the white man threw it overboard.

[@eugenemurray2708]

@@teorewatepou1493 Of course they did. Unrelated story- When i was a kid I had a skateboard, I had drawn all over the bottom and made custom cut outs to the grip, well I outgrew the skateboarding phase. I took Karate lessons at that time too, there was a new kid that showed up to Karate, he was actually quite a natural at it a maori a few years younger than me, well one lesson he shows up on a skateboard all proud of his toy and I look at the grip and tell him bruh thats my skateboard, hes like no it isnt my cuz got it for me. I tell him bruh my name is etched and vivided on the bottom of it, got him to turn it around and there it is my own name was on his new toy hahahaha. Some things never change. I let him keep it as as I said I out grew that fad anyhow.