Marathon Retrospective | Bungie's OTHER Masterpiece

[@SameToken]

Thanks for watching! Be sure to check out Episode 1 where we delve into Bungie's origins: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGi1inljqLqSgck

[@cryofsolace4840]

I was waiting for this!

[@anasamla]

I'm surprised you didn't mention that Marathon and Halo share the same gaming universe. Bungie acknowledged this as well.

[@IHyRaXI]

When's episode 3 for Myth coming?

[@Cheeks117]

@@IHyRaXI i hope soon lol

[@SameToken]

@@IHyRaXI Myth episode is finally in the works!

[@LostODST]

The reclaimer symbol in halo is the marathon logo lol

[@mkevz]

the reclaimer symbol is actually different, the marathon logo is just an easter egg in many places throughout the original trilogy (for example in 343 guilty spark's eye, or even right on the box for halo CE, appearing in the center of the logo)

[@austinhinton3944]

@@mkevz it used to be the marathon logo, but in Halo 4 it was redesigned to look less like it for copyright reasons (same way the Autumn’s emblem was changed to the 7th column in REACH)

[@mkevz]

@@austinhinton3944 that's why I said throughout the *original trilogy*

[@nybergsgarage]

windows vista version of halo 2 has marathon terminal text in the background of the main menu too.

[@WayneRoberts72]

The marathon/ reclaimer logo is a decal in no mans sky

[@theblackphilosopher5958]

These were some seriously humble begginings

[@austindorf83]

Pretty humble beginnings, too.

[@brethnew]

Big humble beginnings, as well.

[@Brawler_1337]

And even then, they were years ahead of their time. A multiplayer only game, a serious focus on story in action games, mouse look in shooters, rocket jumping, underbarrel grenade launchers, dual wielding, reloading... They did so much to pioneer the next twenty years of gaming. Bungie was a treasure.

[@brethnew]

@@Brawler_1337 Yeah they brought the half-life experience to consoles which is awesome

[@Brawler_1337]

@@brethnew And in doing so they standardized the controls for shooters on console. Dual stick controls seem pretty obvious now, but back when Halo came out, many shooters were still using tank controls where you couldn’t move and look at the same time, or you had to use shoulder buttons to strafe. And after that Halo 2 went on to define modern matchmaking to the point that even PC games use it today. Bungie truly was special.

[@baransevim3969]

Marathon deserves more credit. It laid the foundation for some of the most important games ever. Without Marathon, there would be no Half-Life or Halo. Edit: the editing and presentation for this vid is incredible, good shit

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Oh yeah, it could be said it's the first of the FPS Genre and not just Doom clones which are now known as Classic FPS games.

[@Erikcleric]

Marathon sure started and inspired story telling in shooters. But i give John Carmack and the Quake engine the credit for Half Life being able to exist.

[@Razumen]

Pretty sure Quake was more influential in HL becoming reality.

[@disfuncionexe]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough blood is better lol

[@turricanrocks1552]

@@disfuncionexe To you.

[@chriswerth1575]

It's crazy how significant Marathon is in the world of FPS's, and how little people know about it.

[@definitelynotobama6851]

They literally invented mouse look

[@bigchungus7050]

Marathon 2 baby

[@himawariuzumaki6066]

Yeah didn’t know about this just found out by PlayStation looks cool I wanna get into the lore

[@Spladoinkal]

@@himawariuzumaki6066 The great thing is the Marathon Trilogy is free now! Google "Aleph One"

[@RlVlN]

Finally my recommended page actually recommended me something relevant

[@justinhazze8228]

Had to watch this video after the trailer today, very interesting learning a bit of the lore and creation of this game

[@RUH1G]

just saw it now and came here via algorithm. i was a halo kid and destiny addicted teen but fell off the past 2 years for tarkov and other extraction shooters.... im having a bungie relapse but it could not be more welcome

[@--86--]

It's super interesting starting at 6:03 when SameToken describes one of the considered plot lines for the OG Marathon as "bringing aboard artifacts to the Marathon..." especially considering we kept hearing about "artifacts" and "prime artifacts" in the Marathon ViDoc. If Bungie backs up their ambition with the prowess we know they hold, man the new Marathon can be a MASSIVE hit

[@GingerGamerDoofus]

5:20 This is good advice. If your game can hold the attention of someone with severe ADHD for more than an hour, you've got a masterpiece on your hands.

[@Shaggygottasneeze]

I haven't thought about Marathon in years. This video is gonna be a refreshing surprise.

[@AGENTRITEN]

Sitting here like.....😮

[@ryanmussell739]

Greetings from 2023 Bungee just announced a relaunch of marathon.

[@LousyNine]

I’d like to see this game remastered or something, it was great

[@viktorreznov4718]

See the Aleph One project.

[@nickm5419]

Marathon 2 is remastered for xbox360

[@ironwolf2244]

Maybe they could modify the story of Marathon, so that it takes place in the Halo universe, and add in some stuff from that game into the Halo games(besides the Security helmet and other easter eggs).

[@lionocyborg6030]

They should do full 3D remakes of the trilogy ROTT 2013, Doom 4 & Doom Eternal style with a full 3D remake of Marathon Eternal as an expansion pack for Infinity’s one, followed by a proper Marathon 4. (Incidentally, Halo 1 was actually going to be Marathon 4 in a very early alpha story that has long been scrapped and Eternal was based on that version of Halo) Full level editing software as well like they did with the original Vulcan games (but a lot more user friendly than their Aleph One counterparts).

[@davep6102]

I’ve been wanting a marathon reboot for a long time

[@Brawndo27]

It cannot be overstated how excellent Marathon’s soundtrack is. Some serious bangers

[@deagle.2]

how does token not have more views, like seriously? good content, little ads, zero click bait, straight to the point, carefully written script, this guy puts in so much effort!

[@elizabethfigueroa3289]

You made this video 2years ago and now Bungie about to release a new Marathon game 🔥🔥🔥

[@justintropio437]

Growing up, my dad worked with a guy who did level design for Marathon Durandal and Infinity. Small world, and how I was able to get exposed to this brilliant series at such a young age! Very cool videos man, this game needs time in the spotlight again!

[@drsjr1]

my buddies and I used to play Marathon at our Mac Lab at UIUC back in 1994/1995. It was awesome because you could invite other folks on the network (dorms/etc.) and do multiplayer.

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@dood1234DOOD]

Well this should gain some traction since Marathon was announced today during PS5 showcase.

[@livingthedream915]

I'm a little disappointed that you didn't mention that the entire Marathon Trilogy was made free by Bungie and can be played on modern PCs easily, but I love the video otherwise!

[@SameToken]

That's coming in the next episode! Thanks for watching :)

[@livingthedream915]

@@SameToken Sweet!

[@godzilla80192]

how can it be played i was looking for it

[@firemaker1258]

@@godzilla80192 Aleph One. It’s a source port that updates the game. Someone also ported it to IOS.

[@questioningespecialy9107]

@@firemaker1258 There's also _Marathon Resurrection,_ which modernizes it as a UT99 mod. Aleph One is the vanilla experience to put it simply.

[@ZekeTheBeesKnees]

It’s crazy how I’m getting recommended this game. I thought marathon was a new title. And they are now making a reboot of marathon. This is cool.

[@cyprus1005]

Not much of a reboot more of another tile in the universe

[@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903]

Pathways into Uranus is genius

[@OMJNRG]

With the recent news of a new Marathon, it was nice to kind of understand what it’s about. Good vid.

[@MetalGamely]

MARATHON IS BACK

[@ghostbamm8836]

All the Marathon games have an amazing atmosphere.

[@xdeejayjones]

Anyone else here because of the announcement trailer?

[@samdurfee6093]

Watching again to see what the New Marathon might look like.

[@samdurfee6093]

So did some research it looks like we will be playing as Cybernetic Individuals on the City of TAU, that City the Marathon Ship was heading towards. And given the state of the moon I will wager that the Aliens and occupying and the citizens commissioned the ‘Runners’ to combat the Aliens and acquire lost tech to aid in the Resistance. However humanity is not unified in this regard, which is why teams of runners fight each other for the artifacts. I’m excited to see how this game will turn out.

[@OddCup]

Watching this after the Marathon announcement trailer. This game looks amazing! Can't wait!

[@Vunderbread]

Oh man I remember countless hours running around trying to figure out how to beat various levels. I'd play with a friend, we'd be taking notes, constantly having to discuss and debate what to do, where to go, etc.

[@jojivlogs3697]

Tried to look up ANYTHING about og Marathon once I heard that it even exist and there was almost nothing, only this video I found. Now I know some background, thank you! Can't wait for the new one coming!

[@hop-skip-ouch8798]

The algorithm picked your video up with Bungie's latest teaser.

[@grimscribe6454]

As a Mac gamer, this is basically what I had. I remember getting the “games of fame” cd that had Warcraft 1, pathways, marathon, and some other games. Marathon really drew me in with its moody atmosphere, sound design and aesthetics. Seriously has one of my favorite machine guns in any game

[@lukeseropian]

Thanks cousin Alex for giving us many copies of the trilogy whenever I was a little kid. I had a great childhood playing the marathon trilogy, as well as myth

[@espirite]

10:18 As a kid who grew up in an apple mac household and who would only get to play games at my PC owning friends houses....... this scene right here was something i replayed hundreds of time in the demo that shipped on a floppy disk on the front of a MacWorld magazine one month. I remember doing chores to get some money together and then phoning up to order this game. It was the first summer where i dedicated time to just playing through a video game........ magical.

[@caidencanales]

Who’s watching this after that new marathon trailer? 🎉

[@gorillazzillathemeh5897]

This documentary made me insanely happy. Thank you.

[@anikan2000]

The song Aliens Again playing while you protect the humans is honestly what solidified Marathon as my favorite old-school game.

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@retro1sheet925]

Unreal video. Such a special series to early Mac adopters. This vid unlocked a ton of dope memories, thank you.

[@maxwillson]

It's insane how popular this game is. I recently uploaded a full play threw of the game and I'm surprised it's gotten so many views!

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@drynk3r497]

anyone else here after Marathon got announced in the PlayStation showcase 2023?

[@radio2299]

This video about to get a bump in views. Haha

[@didiok7]

I have a felling your video is gonna get some new views

[@mitchellodell266]

Love this series, I love halo and have for a long time but somehow never realized the potential Bungie demonstrated pre halo.

[@briannewman532]

Played the hell out of the Marathon series when I was younger. It was truly a huge leap forward. I took a lot of pleasure in pointing out the similarities in Halo when it came out years later, because almost no one had heard of it. Great memories.

[@Heliosphan33]

I don’t usually watch video essays. This was great.

[@olly123451]

I was literally asking for this 2 weeks ago, in a different place, in a different time. Now I have it. Thank you ❤️

[@brunocar02]

This is one of the best made videos regarding Marathon i've ever seen, quality stuff

[@whoopswrongbutton3987]

Yesssssss KZbin needs more videos on this amazing game series!!!!

[@ryvnplays9023]

And it’s back!!!!

[@FightCain]

I can’t get enough of the dual wielding lever action flip cocking teleporting shells double barrel WSTE shotguns. I need more

[@kentsavick2516]

Makes me want to dig out my old Mac and my 3 Marathon games to play. Yes I still have them in mint condition, somewhere. :)

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@007gollum8]

I had never heard of Marathon before yesterday. I'm not old enough to have witnessed the birth of the FPS genre between titles such as this one or Doom. But that makes me all the more excited to explore this universe once the new game launches!

[@Draliseth]

The first thing I tried in Halo when I got my hands on the plasma pistol was to overcharge it and see if it would self destruct.

[@JunaColada]

a very well made video, i hope we get to see an episode 3 some day!

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@tuncerdeniz69]

Lol. My handycam came in handy :)

[@SameToken]

That’s an understatement! As a fan of Bungie’s stuff, I really enjoyed watching it all, as well as your interview with Seropian and Jones. Huge thanks for your involvement and insight from the time!

[@amirmark1078]

Watching this after the announcement of Marathon

[@K4LKing]

You know that video you made about the recap of halo was so good I keep rewatching it because it's so good don't forget to make a PT 2

[@Scruffi]

It's worth mentioning here that Marathon, Marathon: Durandal, and Marathon Infinity are all currently available on iPhone and iPad. If nothing else it's a trip into the history of FPS game design at that time (not to mention a nostalgia trip for those of us who played the heck out of it at the time), and insight into the origins of concepts that would migrate their way into the Halo games. Of course, if you really want to see where the roots of Halo came from, both Marathon and the MYTH games had many elements that evolved into what became Halo.

[@maximdrake]

This video is way better than I expected. Seriously great work, Marathon never gets this sort of treatment.

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@edrosa3485]

The theme to the 2nd one was amazing. I loved that I could put the Marathon 2 disk into any CD player, skip the first track and that amazing theme would play...

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@MassiveJetGrind]

Watching game devs eat pizza on the floor in the '90s is a perfect vibe. Feels like home.

[@KrotowX]

During my job in publishing house at 1994 played some Mac specific games. Pathways Into Darkness turned out awfully hard and due to permanent dark fog kinda depressing. Never finished it. But Marathon was a blast. Then employer business bankrupted and was able to finish the rest of trilogy after 15 years as Aleph One. It was still good. Marathon trilogy certainly need a proper remake. It would be a blast again. I remember original artwork and intermission screens - on decent engine views will be not less spectacular than in Halo MCC.

[@lonew0lfclaw859]

This video was really eye opening.. Great work man!

[@vectoralphaSec]

Here after the new Marathon announcement. Awesome to see Bungie come back to this series for their next game.

[@aceofhearts573]

Marathon is coming back .... As a live service extraction shooter. Wtf, worst outcome ever

[@MagikarpMan]

I like live service

[@Guciom]

@@MagikarpMan Consoom away then.

[@MagikarpMan]

@@Guciom live service allows for more content to be added over time and for developers to have even more creativity when developing their games. You can't have games as expansive full of content as destiny it warframe without a live service model

[@Guciom]

@@MagikarpMan Did the concept of expansions allude you? "You can't have games as expansive full of content as destiny it warframe without a live service model". 1. Yes you can, it has been done before. 2. Most of the content in those games is not good content, mostly filler grinding. 3. Live service games are notoriously hollow and of low quality. Go now child and consoom in peace.

[@MagikarpMan]

@@Guciom 1. Fair enough, it has been done butI meant for smaller budget studios, something like warframe would be dead and in the ground if not for live service 2. That's just untrue 3. So are a shit tone of single player games recently, the AAA games industry in general has had a dip in quality 4. Funny how some1 that actively buys into and participates in modern gaming is going on abt "consooming" do u think cus u play fckin single player games Ur any better 💀

[@killbabies0341]

It is so disappointing seeing what Bungie is doing with Marathon now...

[@thelemon5069]

You haven't even seen gameplay yet

[@kristopherjon6496]

@@thelemon5069 It will have to be something very special to pass muster, IMO. The market is already flooded with PVP titles (which have to compete for player base) and they are far too prone to “live service” pitfalls. Plus, the spirit of the original Marathon games was the journey through the campaign as much as the action- learning about the AI’s personalities, digging into lore on terminals, and the turns of the story. That type of thing will be little more than window dressing in a rinse-and-repeat PVP experience, if even that.

[@CSM100MK2]

Succinctly the best Marathan recap for beginners on youtube, though you could and should absolutely elaborate on the plot and the impact of of the emergent storytelling, and the legacy of every Bungie game involving an AI

[@therockymountainman4749]

Great video! Feel like I’m watching a Nova documentary with how high quality this is!

[@dextergrif1052]

I still have yet to play Marathon. I probably should do that

[@Luke_H98]

I've never played Marathon, was slightly before my time, but I'm very excited for this video Edit: This was fantastic

[@The1AmazinAsian]

It's freeware now, easy to install too.

[@Brawler_1337]

All three games were made free in 2005, and the current Aleph One engine makes them playable on many modern systems. They’ve even been ported to iOS. They should also be really easy to pick up and play, since Marathon was the first game to introduce modern mouse look controls in a shooter.

[@CaptainPilipinas]

I only knew about the main [Flower Game(s)] verses and the halo [Flower] franchises.

[@waydesworld108]

Man this brings me back. It started for me with the first game in the mid 90s. As the years went on it got better and better, one year I got the Marathon Trilogy Boxset for Christmas. My mom was the best. The boxset let you design your own levels as well, it was jam packed.

[@Thor-Orion]

That's because Marathon Infinite (the third game) had a level maker in it.

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@waydesworld108]

@@Chickensea10 MY jaw dropped when I saw it during the stream. Hope they honor the original properly. I think this is a different approach but we will see! Stoked to see them not forgetting what made them Bungie!

[@Chickensea10]

@@waydesworld108 seems they are taking the pvp side only but who knows! Maybe something will change/be teased in the future

[@waydesworld108]

@@Chickensea10 We shall see! Cant wait!

[@DeathWithinTenSteps]

Imo Marathon is still the greatest game of all time. That level of richness to a story has never been seen since.

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@ManSickle]

Dude these videos are awesome!! Keep up the great work, I want more!!

[@ॐIo]

Bungie "gameplay is king", "story is integral". Not anymore now its microtransactions and liveservice. The Next Marathon will be an Extravtion Shooter

[@prometheuslens7825]

The entire reason why destiny is still alive is because of the gunplay. I’m not a bungie shill but one thing I know they can do well is make gameplay feel amazing and fluid. I’ll give them a chance before condemning them this early

[@MMZERO9]

I cannot begin to tell you how many hours I put in just playing the demo version of Marathon 2: Durandal. Thanks for this.

[@The88Cheat]

Imagine a time where a delay of only 4 months (extra 12 weeks from promised date) was considered a huge set back.

[@phliip7362]

phenomenal work on this documentary. 👏👏

[@owlontheprowl1657]

Played Marathon and its sequels. This is Halo (master chief and Cortana) loved it

[@StephenAMCook]

Always good to see new videos.

[@FrischesG]

And now it's getting a reboot! I remember the Marathon eastereggs in Halo.

[@natw42]

Would love to see this series continued

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@gobighdgames]

finally someone making a proper video for this masterpiece! about time and well deserved thank you so much, love your content!

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@xslashsdas]

Back here for the new Marathon game, let's goooo

[@MidnightMedium]

Next to nobody knows about Marathon. I hope this doc gets more attention in the years to come because youve done great work here

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@benjaminmoore4514]

I love marathon! I hope we get to see the other parts!

[@IdahoBookworm]

Great video! Nothing beats Marathon's atmosphere or story for me, even today. I hope you cover Myth eventually. :)

[@Dark_Seraph6996]

You should definetly check out the history and lore of Destiny

[@Lurker1979]

I loved punching up my punching power in the physics editor and sending aliens clear across the map and splattering them. lol

[@Maraaass]

Accidentally stumbled upon your channel and I just wanted to say I really enjoy your content. Very nice to listen and professional. Great job and looking forward to see more :)

[@throwedgaming6419]

Awesome video with great pacing and music. I never saw beta footage before but the final product was alot better so it's great they took their time.

[@robertgaskill8632]

Came here after bungies marathon announcement

[@sincereeastman6972]

Looks like a disappointment, came back to see the Real Marathon

[@NRV0]

@@sincereeastman6972 What makes is such a dissapointment to you?

[@sandalphonico]

MAN!!! Awesome documentary

[@jollyj5296]

Who else is here after seeing the reveal on the ps showcase?

[@killerbee1974]

here after they said they would have a new title

[@OxLOOKxWHOxJUST]

Great video! Can't wait to watch the next one :)

[@DrFoo11]

Marathon was siiiiiiiiiiick. Never finished any if em, but the story was soo good.

[@yahtzeetee1965]

Its so cool to see what aspects of bungies old games made it into to halo mostly the story and Cortanas ramponcy

[@karlcantarella7982]

This was great. Really enjoyed it. Will pass it to my buds who played with me back in the day. Please do more about Bungie, like dig into Myth the Fallen Lords. Loved that too. Thank you!

[@Chickensea10]

GUESS WHAT GOT ANNOUNCED AT PLAYSTATION STATE OF PLAY 2023!!!!!!!!!!! NOW ITS A MATTER OF TIME!

[@karlcantarella7982]

@@Chickensea10 I missed it? What? Cant be Marathon, can it?

[@Chickensea10]

@@karlcantarella7982 It is! The trailer had some bomb music in it as well!

[@Chickensea10]

@@karlcantarella7982 HIIIIIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU CHRCK6OUT THE GAMES THAT GOT TEASED/ANNOUNCED! SOME GEMS IN THERE!

[@karlcantarella7982]

@@Chickensea10 yep, it was very cool! I’m psyched!

[@esteban5628]

Always nice seeing you post

[@dignusdingus3709]

My niche opinion. If Marathon got brought back, rebooted, remade, whatever... Joel Nielsen would be perfect for an updated vibe and soundtrack I feel. For those who don't know he did the soundtrack for Black Mesa, the rather impressive fan remake of Half-Life. A lot of good heart and emotion in them, and one track in particular (Questionable Ethics 1) got me curious about how Joel would handle a song like the Durundal Theme

[@Spladoinkal]

The original Marathon was the game that got me into gaming. Sure, I played the Mario games and such before that but didn't have the same level of interest in gaming that I've had since.

[@paulloughlin3732]

Two great videos! Any update on episode 3 in the series?

[@Jesus-xb1hm]

Trying to find the next episode in this series. Any chance we'll get to see it?? Loving all of it

[@ॐIo]

It's so disheartening that the new title will be a PvP money printer instead of another ambitious project

[@moebacca]

Another great video! Great production value.