Killfeed Assists [OUTDATED]

[@ITalk69]

I'd love to see a video of you breaking down how POTG is precisely determined.

[@sugarkrisp5199]

im pretty sure its just which ever player gained the most fire points within a 7 second window. certain special types of potgs like "sharpshooter" "shutdown" and "lifesaver" also make you more likely to get potg. but im not sure how these are weighed

[@S0UPIE]

it is a system i dont think even blizzard knows how it behaves. for example, sprays increes your chance of geting potg

[@weeyum99]

@@sugarkrisp5199 all i know is that environmental kills are HIGHLY weighted

[@dakota6050]

@@S0UPIE Also emotes. I used to play a freeze tag custom game with no killing in workshop and potg would always be some random person emoting

[@boopedwards8943]

@@S0UPIE I also believe damage is highly weighted as if you kill a beat drop as sombra and the enemy team dies no matter what the sombra will get potg

[@Breadn]

I'm always impressed by how polished these videos are. I don't know how you get visual representations that look *just* like the game, but it'll always be cool as hell.

[@nebulous9280]

Best bet is that he's using some kind of workshop effect to get a sort of green screen that's easy to work with as a background. Could be wrong tho.

[@TheAudacityyyy]

@@nebulous9280 There is a special map in game called Workshop Green Screen which as you could guess is completely green haha, that's probably how.

[@Marblr]

thanks, I remake the game's UI in after effects since there's more flexibility with animating them that way.

[@thechknnuggetgod1709]

I never realized some heroes don’t make it to the assist part of the kill feed

[@nebulous9280]

@@TheAudacityyyy Totally unaware lol I rarely if ever play custom games

[@TaxLimit]

You've become one of the most popular overwatch youtubers in less than 6 months, that is wild. High quality content really does pay off innit.

[@CowPat101]

This channel is a perfect representation of you don’t need subscribers to get views if the quality of the video is good.

[@skyline07355]

hes just the youtuber ive been looking for, for a long time

[@RochRich.]

I thought this was the same guy who talked about how the first person animations represented their respective hero in a video I watched ages ago

[@justfriccoff3363]

He really hasn't but ok

[@TaxLimit]

@@justfriccoff3363 Literally has

[@thedofflin]

After over 6 years of playing I somehow still assumed that damage assists are a thing but clearly not. The assist logic is surprisingly basic.

[@basicbacon5951]

That tip for Zens achievement is a blessing lol

[@musicstuff6310]

Just know that the achievement is bugged or not worded correctly and you have to get at least one kill and assist for it to pop. So his death blossom example is incorrect. Youd need to snipe a kill with zen to get it

[@basicbacon5951]

@@musicstuff6310 oh really? Well still easier than how I was trying to do it originally

[@musicstuff6310]

@@basicbacon5951 yea i got all the achievements and that was one of the last few i had to get that i had sworn id already gotten xD. Found out why after some googling. If you want a tip, ive gotten it on kings row with a random mei comp on second point. Discord the blizzard targets xD

[@Marblr]

@@musicstuff6310 that is disappointing if true. unfortunately I can't verify what the true requirement for the achievement is, since testing it is impractical for many reasons. but since discussion about rapid discord being bugged has been ongoing for 7 years, I am inclined to believe that something about the description is wrong.

[@musicstuff6310]

@@Marblr yea it sucks because you can pop off and get all 4 kills and get punished for doing too well

[@Andrewjrt]

Marblr. The videos, keep 'em coming. ty

[@Marblr]

☕

[@nma1992]

Wow, the D.Va one caught me by surprise. Me and my friend had been trying to figure it out for a while but now we have the answer! Thank you

[@reller82]

i love the fact that 76 just keeps getting killed by reaper like he owes him way too much money to comprehend

[@zekisehasabr2622]

jack, it's been 5 years you still owe me 16 dollars

[@tyvintandy9960]

Do you think you can make a video on how play of the game is determined? Along with special types of potg like sharpshooter, shutdown, and lifesaver? That would be great. Also your videos are amazing! Keep it up!

[@Ross516]

If it helps, I believe it's gaining the largest amount of fire in the shortest amount of time, but I agree that a video on it would be great

[@Acrophobia-X]

This seems like a really good idea!

[@ClaraBennett]

Do shutdown and lifesaver still exist? I swear I haven’t seen any special PotG types other than sharpshooter in years.

[@tyvintandy9960]

@@ClaraBennett they still exist, but it's incredibly rare. That's why I want to know how these special potgs are determined.

[@RojoSostenido]

i'd love to see this too, there was a time when i got POTG with moira on almost every quick play, i think 2 years ago, but now it's almost impossible, the sure have changed something

[@leon-037]

I noticed that the Doomfist punch knockback doesn't register as an assist but what about when the enemy hits the wall from the punch? Isn't that a stun?

[@Marblr]

that does result in a stun, but it does not count.

[@Astrometeor]

@@Marblr what about when they're killed when still moving from the punch.

[@PigeonOvO]

@@Marblr I think I have seen doom as in assist before.. I think it was in OW2 .. he got some slow stuff so that might have been it

[@weejonnyshaft8339]

Doomfist can get an assist if it is a counter pin so you can only get it on brig, rein or another doom

[@thomsasus]

@@weejonnyshaft8339 that might be true. Sounds like it should count.

[@ClaraBennett]

Looks like the killfeed assists have changed a lot in OW2. It’ll probably take some time for things to settle, but I’d love to see an updated version of this video sometime!

[@shirotheshiro1098]

This guy always knows how to pick topics we all thought about but never actually dug into. Amazing video as always!! I got the sequences wrong :( i thought the damage from the reinhardt will restart mercy's timer but only mercy boosted damage restarts the timer.

[@TheMacco26]

I made the same assumption, because I thought the second dmg boosted rocket came within the 5" threshold from the first. If I got this lesson correctly.

[@Dudex11a]

Something funny I noticed is that Brig is rapidly swapping between her LOD models at 7:03 after the shield bash. I love your videos btw!

[@Caspppui]

this OW content is beyond everything we had before! I freaking love it! So many questions I had in the past got explained here! So good! Cant wait for you to cover OW2 stuff!

[@jtrain9939]

Would love to see an OW2 revisit of assists. Especially since it seems a standard weekly challenge for me is gettting 250 assists/saves. I'm fairly certain healing someone that gets a kill counts as an assist now.

[@RematodeRanger]

i'm suprised that amped speed boost doesn't count towards assists, as it is used as an offensive push manoeuvre under most circumstances. having Lucio gain assists for this would definitely make him seem more impactful and make OWL a little cleaner to watch

[@Voxovan]

IIRC, if a speed boosted teammate kills an enemy, it does count as an assist in your stats as Lucio, it just doesn't show up in the killfeed as an assist. Same with Widow and Hanzo wallhacks.

[@musicstuff6310]

@@Voxovan yea lucio has defensive assists and offensive assists. I always assumed that it had something to do with amp heals for defensive and amp speed for offensive

[@AFestiveDude]

Your content is very similar shounic. He basically does what you do-explaining game mechanics and bugs in a informative way- but in Team Fortress 2. Both of you are supreme content creators for my favorite class based shooters. :)

[@ascianenjoyer6756]

I've seen doomfist get assist credit if he counter charges (ie, cancelling a rein charge or shield bash, Reinhardt also benefits from this)

[@Marblr]

I will have to double check this and issue a correction if it's true. I know that regular charges/pins/punches do not result in killfeed assists, but I did not consider countercharges.

[@Marblr]

after doing some testing, I've found that Doomfist does not get a killfeed assist when countercharging Rein, Brig, or another Doomfist. but he _does_ get an assist when counter-charging Bob during his deployment. thanks for the comment, I will update the description EDIT: ok ignore this comment. after testing this a lot further, counter-charge assists have a very unique quirk. I will be making a video addressing this shortly.

[@ananodragon4981]

@@Marblr I swear to God I've gotten assist credit for counterpinning a rein as doom before he dies Upon further testing, I am proved correct

[@AeonCDG]

@@Marblr I do believe that the timer for counter charging only lasts as long as they are knocked over, though I haven't done any personal testing

[@EvelynnWinters2000]

I love that you use the actual ability names (or shortened versions) except Lucio, just "his boop"

[@pedrogoncalves3162]

This was your best video yet, super insightful especially the rapid discord bit and I loved the pop quizz too

[@smishra5812]

the insane high quality of these videos are wildddddd

[@gwusbwth6230]

These videos are amazing. I like the "behind the scenes, why do the abilities do what they do" kind of content on video games. Especially Shounic with Team Fortress 2. Since I've been playing overwatch lately, this content really hits the spot. Thank you

[@Vyraxan97]

Quality of videos is so good I forget you only have 45 k subs ; you're hella underrated

[@pacifistminigun3987]

man, it's mind blowing how much in depth this is. Also, i am glad OW grants kills to both damaging players, rather than just the one that landed the killing blow that said, the "quiz" was actually kind of cool to try to solve!

[@tmxmOverwatch]

I’ve seen in my own game where a Wrecking Ball earned 3 kill assists when we died to flux mines combo. I’m not sure how exactly it worked but everyone in The lobby was super confused as well

[@Michaela_ZC]

I wonder if the “logic” behind those characters not getting assists is that they “shouldn’t” be getting them. Meaning, the purpose of Lucio is to support, so it counts as an assist to encourage that behavior, as well as validate them in the statistics. Meanwhile Phara’s is supposed to vet elims herself, so she doesn’t need to be rewarded for assists. If that’s true, they should update Doomfist in OW2 to now show assists, because his focus as a character has shifted to tanking rather than killing

[@emergency.jergens]

Symmetra was a support and her turrets never gave assists so there might be a “who cares” factor

[@sircobalt5099]

My question is why doesn't Brig's whipshot count then? It's functionally very similar to Lucio on a support by that logic

[@barroslucasc]

@@emergency.jergens I think the assists were added to the game after she became a DPS, but I could be wrong. Edit: just checked and I'm completely wrong. She became a DPS on June 26, 2018 and the kill feed assists were added on May 23, 2017

[@Michaela_ZC]

@@sircobalt5099 with that you have to remember that Overwatch is made by lots of people after a long period of time. It’s very likely that whoever programmed Lucio’s boop was different than the person who programmed Brig’s, or that the team as a whole changed their philosophy on what counts as an assist over time

[@ButterWaffleGamer]

Great video as usual! One thing I'm surprised you didn't mention despite it being probably being reverted in the live Overwatch 2 version is Moira's Weakening ability from the latest OW2 Beta (I guess I wondered about it since Orisa losing her Ashe/Dva assist bug in OW2 was mentioned in the video). I'm guessing this would work the same way as Ana's nade assist does, but interested nonetheless

[@Marblr]

Moira's new orb was already removed, lol. but yeah that may have given an assist

[@luis4rod]

I love these videos! Every time a question pops up in my mind while watching the video you just seem to address it right after or later, they are very thorough and satisfying. And I see your "unless..."...

[@huntish3760]

The polish of these videos reminds me of something like an Uncle Dane or a Shounic video. You are quickly raising the bar for overwatch content.

[@ainmb7323]

Yet again, an impressively polished and well structured video. I hope your success grows more and that it drives other OW creators to take it up a notch! I’m glad theres still people who are passionate about this game considering we’re in season 76 of OW1™ competitive play.

[@iccluvie]

please keep doing these 😭 your voice is so passive and calming and the content of the video is always something fun to watch :) i know they may take time so don’t feel in a rush to pump out content and exhaust yourself but i just hope you know these are amazing

[@matthewwong707]

That little “unless” 😳 at 3:00 in the bottom left

[@TheTankMain]

Great Video! Though I’m surprised you didn’t Atleast talk about the maximum amount of assists that could appear in the kill feed. I imagine it would be impossible for EVERY assist to register in a hypothetical 12v1, but I don’t know

[@youa._]

The most underrated channel in KZbins history.

[@redstonewarrior0152]

So in other words, this is the way TF2 calculates assists, minus healing and minus the damage.

[@taroko3721]

I love that these videos are just overwatch variants of shounic’s videos I don’t mean anything bad about it but I just love the video editing and structure style because it’s so easy to just watch a lot of it

[@Cmellak]

No unnecessary intros, outros, transitions, animations. Just pure, nicely polished informative content; you're literally the only OW YT content creator doing it, and as a result - you are the best one. Screw all the others with their horny teen snotty brats welcoming style of videos, attracting nuisance, Twitch slaves, etc., this is what matters the most, finally some decency. The others are pathetic.

[@Sebboebbo]

I don't think you need to put absolutely everyone else down to bring this guy up

[@TrueOracle]

Jesus Christ who hurt you?

[@Cmellak]

I guess I hit the nail on its head with the two guys reacting. Apparently he doesn't need fancy pancy BS to attract attention and that's what separates him from others. You know - quality over circus. Sorry you are following and watching people playing videogames instead of those who are more valuable, ergo those producing information rather than cheap entertainment alongside with it. No time wasted watching him. That's my point :) He doesn't bait people and spread digital dementia and that is highly admirable in the modern world. Thank God. I just hope he stays this way. Nobody hurt me, it's a statement of fact, based.

[@TrueOracle]

@@Cmellak bro really just called himself based 💀 does karq mean nothing to you?

[@jezko1910]

lol, spot on, do not let these hardcore addicted high school freshmen deceive you

[@Dash123456789Brawl]

Thank you for addressing Rapid Discord, the reason I eventually stopped trying to get new character-specific achievements as they were added.

[@ZombieaidZ]

The sm64 music was very unexpected, but very welcomed. Love how each killfeed was added to the beat. Very satisfying

[@IzzyIsntReal]

Excellent music choice, I must say.

[@marcus3178]

Seriously if you post videos like maybe 4 years ago this will be a million subbed channel. It’s just so good, professional yet entertaining

[@michaelvallance1768]

Me getting the quiz at the end correct was the most exciting thing to happen to me all week these videos are so informative, i wish i could absorb information like this in school

[@rckkatansky5783]

Dude your content is awesome, I've always thought about how things like this work but could never fully understand them. Best new OW content creator

[@lucassmith1634]

Overwatch's one true hope for content. Gives strong AsumSaus vibes cant wait for the OW2 glowup

[@whokillediggy]

The quality of your videos is insane, plus respect points for nostalgic music choices

[@RyNiuu]

I don't know what is more impressive. Videos themselves? Or the fact that you perfectly executed relaunching the channel by stacking content since the OW2 announcement and publishing it in the greatest of syncs with the actual GoLive of the game and the community's peak interest. Well fckin played :) I am all in.

[@-Cosmic]

I already know that this video is gonna be high quality, keep up the great stuff marblr

[@adamarroyo4798]

I just realized I have watched all of your 11 most recent uploads. I love this kind of content

[@Derpuwolf]

Quality is amazing, beyond mortal comprehension.

[@princesscadance197]

‘No Soldier: 76s were harmed in the making of t- Hold up, nope, they were harmed. A great many of them were harmed.’

[@ExtremelyBurntToast]

i forgot about the sombra rule on the quiz :( great editing your videos get better everytime i see them

[@dienosawr]

3:01 The hell is that icon next to the Discord Orb symbol? Anyone else notice it?

[@fizzlock]

I don't know what you're talking about 😳

[@_ikako_]

😳

[@tommytx3769]

What if we kissed in the workshop maps? Jk jk.. unless?😳

[@nathanlindsey643]

Was hoping that you would show the world's largest killfeed, but I guess the world wasn't ready for that one

[@TheGoodGuyNineteen]

Just coming back to say this video helped me get rapid discord which was the last base game achievement I needed. I love you and thank you so much

[@ahmedkashmiri7425]

No Jack Morrisons were hurt in the making of the video

[@ReptillianStrike]

I love how every single ability you mention by name, but Sigma's Accretion, you just call "Rock"

[@aqn01]

wallhack, shatter etc?

[@TrueOracle]

Boop?

[@RidhaFA]

grav?

[@ReptillianStrike]

@@aqn01 He specified after the fact that it is commonly referred to as "wallhackl" and "Shatter" is in the name of EarthShatter

[@ReptillianStrike]

@@TrueOracle Is it not called boop?

[@sinanuygur5273]

There are so many question I had with DvAs weird heals (and even team kills) and assists, your channel explains these pretty clearly. 👍

[@sinanuygur5273]

Also I think DvAs flying knockback counts as an assist.

[@blob_man_guy1582]

I didn’t know I needed shounic videos for overwatch but this was very interesting

[@JayS96Bruh]

This is the first time I’ve ever heard someone use Blinx the Timesweeper music in a video not about Blinx. Very cool

[@Akhen.]

I love your videos man. Even though OW doesnt deserve it (for now) it should be more popular so your videos would get more views. These are as professional as corporate advertising and as funny as the best of subtle phineas and ferb gags. Cheers

[@cheesifying]

Wow. A few months ago i found this channel and i really enjoyed the few overwatch videos that you had created. Since then, the video quality has only gone up, and everything feels incredibly polished and smooth. What you've done is amazing, its just a shame that the overwatch community is so small these days. If OW2 gets popular though, get ready for a huge boom in viewership. Keep up the high quality videos! I can tell you put in a lot of effort, so i can't wait for more :).

[@qwertyyuiop8066]

In fact, Doomfist can be in the killfeed as an "assistant". If Doomfist uses "Rocket punch" against Brigitte's "Shield bash" or Reinhardt's "Charge", both of them will "fall" to the ground in the same way as the result of charging Reinhardts from opposing teams. And if after that Doomfist's teammate kills the fallen Brigitte or Reinhardt, then Doomfist as an assistant will get into the killfeed along with the teammate who killed the enemy. I used Google translator, sorry if something is wrong here.

[@Psyphelia]

Couldn’t even tell you used google translate lol. That’s interesting though.

[@Lucas19Santana98]

I like all the TF2, Jerma and Star references, and the shounic type of content and editing. Keep on the great work!

[@Ellipsis115]

3:47 If I ever want to get rapid discord achievement. 9:17 Great idea for video, ridiculous pop quizzes haha, or just quizzes in general its nice to see either you learned something or at least could have learned something, watching videos is always too passive and often you don't pay enough attention to learn. Honestly I want to emulate this exact style of content.

[@cultoosk]

Your videos are always so high quality. You deserve way more subs man.

[@succacactus1135]

This man's answering questions I didn't know I had.

[@AdmFrog]

How is DVA always a star in these videos, she really is spaghetti code

[@VVen0m]

I've been longing for Overwatch version of shounic;s content for a very long time and this guy delivers

[@BigEvy]

Hazy maze cave overtop of the cursed killfeed was really enjoyable. Thank you!

[@BigL10000]

This Channel is an absolute GEM of the community. Please keep up the awesome work

[@CaptainTak]

Thanks for this video, I was really stumped why sometimes I wouldn't (visually in the killfeed) get credit for an assist, even when I did a bunch of damage to an enemy but just didn't get the killing blow, while other times I would briefly buff the person who got the kill and get credit for it.

[@goshachelak9876]

These edits are so smooth and well made, keep it up!

[@hitchips4032]

the fade in of the nervous emoji on "unless" was elite

[@luxyj4728]

The amount of just random trying things. So much dedication

[@some_science_guy]

so something interesting i found out in the beta. As junkerqueen if you throw the hatchet and die before it flies back and before it gets out of los (because then it will also fly back almost instantly) then it will fly from wherever you threw it and all the way back to spawn. I only tested this in the practice range with instant respawn so i'm not sure it would work in a real game. HOWEVER something else interesting to research could be the inconsistency with which the game treats projectiles and dying. In my experience some projectiles just disappear while others keep going so yeah. Anyways amazing content, keep it up!

[@devzorsmallz]

9:45 Hey, I recognize that Blinx the Timesweeper rewind sound! And the music used from it, too!

[@evilMissRune]

that dva assist bug is why orisa got reworked, so they wouldnt have to touch her spaghetti

[@Samileefarrell]

getting that quiz correct was the light of my day ong

[@keyl1m382]

Marblr, your videos are EXACTLY what I've been missing from OW cravings!

[@alejandrogascon4212]

Hey! I just wanted to say that your videos are awesome. Overwatch has been out for a long time now, and you are still 6 years after its launch things that no one has explained before. I've been playing this game for so long and I'm still learning lots of things I actually didn't know about the internal functioning of the game. So, really nice and useful videos, keep on this way. And also I wanted to give an idea for future videos. It will be nice to know how POTG works, what parameters does it follow to determine who has done the better play of the game. Specially for those things like the old famous mercy robbery of POTG just by ressing with her ult a player who then does many kills, or why brigitte used to take all the POTG just by holding left click. Will be nice to understand how the POTG is exactly decided.

[@Marblr]

thanks, and yeah POTG is a system I really want to investigate. I just have to reverse engineer it through testing (no source code) which takes time.

[@alejandrogascon4212]

K nice, I'll be waiting patiently that video 😁 Thanks for your response :)

[@friendlywolf3359]

Broke: They gave Orisa a rework to give her a different play style Woke: They gave Orisa a rework to get rid of that particular Dva bug.

[@najiabuirmeileh4961]

Honey wake up Marblr uploaded!

[@cellogramfr]

That video explains so good how assists work and even though I play this game from its release I learned a ton of things! Just need to precise that u forgot to talk about how doomfist and rein can get an assist by counter charging rein's pin, brig's shield bash or doom's punch 👌🇨🇵

[@lukelittle8446]

I love your videos, you have to be the most sophisticated Overwatch content creator on KZbin

[@gumarks_]

I am pretty sure healing a hero that gets a kill does count as an assist now in OW2, because I'm getting TONS of them with Brig and Moira, for example. PD: These videos are singlehandedly clearing doubts I've had for literally years. Great work!!

[@kaiocrap6965]

Love these vids. This makes you really think about the CC’s in the games

[@seanmatthews6091]

I have a feeling that Marblr knows more about Overwatch than the devs do.

[@netmakeryt1950]

0:06 me when i see a plane

[@Mazdak_T]

Bro, you're underrated, you definitely deserve more, keep up the great work

[@dbcooper4927]

Andrew JRT sent me. This content is great. Ya, got yourself a follow. Hope this channel grows and remains consistent. Much love.

[@Hatman8]

The hard M of the cowboy character caught me off guard but aight

[@CheddarDrip]

Whenever somebody uses Kirby 64 music, I always subscribe

[@TheKooshk]

Ok, wow!! The quality abd dedication man!... well done

[@Luisinho]

8:12 Orisa here is like: "Seriously?"

[@lufekon9263]

Mate, your videos are awesome please keep that high level of contet up.

[@originalpadoru]

i love these videos and how well polished they are but the symmetra just washing away the tracer made me laugh

[@LucyTheBox]

Dang the quiz at the end, I thought it was less than 5 seconds between shots and thought Mercy would show up first.

[@KIXL]

11:08 i think i had seen doom gets kill feed assist maybe its because of uppercut 🤔

[@rae_7074]

Wow I answered REIN ANA MERCY SOMBRA on the quiz... got it backwards with mercy and sombra, this channel is really fun xD

[@abird5575]

This gives me "How It's Made" vibes and I live for it.