Realms Beyond the Known World: The Permian Islands - Here There Be Dragons!

A distant island chain far north of the known world is called the 'Permian Islands' by Assembly naturalists, who note many of the endemic flora and fauna trace their ancestry to Permian harvests. However, the islands go by another name in translations of Kaimeran historical treatises: the Dragon Archipelago.
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[@bonemarrow3439]

This rendition of dragons is the most unique I've ever seen. Kudos to you Keenan

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you!

[@petarbrkic6404]

​@@TalesofKaimere Hey bro , did you see my pictures sent from E-Mail ?

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@petarbrkic6404 I did. I replied to a couple of them. I don't do collaborations with people but I appreciate your enthusiasm.

[@petarbrkic6404]

​@@TalesofKaimere Thank you

[@happynihilist2573]

I wouldn't call it the most unque but it's most certainly relly good

[@JasonBerger631]

Was not expecting Permian era therapsids to develop into mf dragons

[@TalesofKaimere]

It felt like a great way to link together the fear of serpents, birds of prey, and cats which are often cited as inspiration for dragon myths.

[@JasonBerger631]

@@TalesofKaimere yessir, the three major predator groups of our ancestors

[@bluefyre7]

After hearing you say years ago that you don’t think you would ever introduce true dragons to Kaimere, it was such a wonderful surprise to see you start to develop Permian Island dragons and their riders! I’m such a fan of the Permian Island and it’s ecology, and, just like with Kaishel, it’s amazing how you’ve made these environments feel so alien compared to the Known World we’ve had time to become familiar with! Considering information about Permian fauna on Earth is not nearly as commonplace as that of the Mesozoic and it’s dinosaurs, it’s great to see these often overshadowed creatures get their own land where they’re the main cast! Thanks for again building onto Kaimere and please never stop! Keep up the amazing work!!!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you so much! Super glad to hear you enjoyed!

[@hinskiemaso9198]

It's also amazing how much better you express my feelings about Permian Islands then I am.

[@joshuagonzalez4183]

@Cole_Mevin 👍🏻✨

[@skistorm739]

@@TalesofKaimere just a joke what if you do a monster hunters explaining an I remember the magical world isn't magical

[@skistorm739]

@@TalesofKaimere an does kaimere have rapid evolution should make a million years even if simple like 12000 years

[@extraordinarytv5451]

I love the look of the spitting panther because it's head looks simultaneously tyrannosaurine and dog/bear like.

[@thenerdbeast7375]

I absolutely love the design of the Permian Jackals, it is such a cool idea to give them a hare-like build with a springing gait rather than a simple canid-like body plan. I especially like the detail of like the evolution of dogs on Earth their tolerance of humans allowing them to settle on the fringes of settlements allowed them to thrive while other predators are pressured into decline by human activity.

[@transnewt]

i hesitate to call this the best rendition of dragons yet, but it is absolutely up there.

[@pangeaman0395]

Titan crows: I can’t believe we had managed to make a steady population in the isles! I hope nothing bad ever happens to us! *Rathalos theme plays in the distance*

[@TalesofKaimere]

Titan crows: *exist* Dragons: “and I took that personally.”

[@dinomatians9889]

I love learning about Kaimer and it’s animals and history

[@jackbelinski2661]

The idea of Dragons being Therapsids actually makes perfect sense. After all, despite the portrayal of dragons in our modern media being thoroughly reptilian, dragons from traditional mythology and folklore actually often have facial structures wholly unlike what we think of on normal reptiles (be it lizards or snakes). A surprising number of cultures gave the dragon an odd non-reptile-like head. From the horse, donkey, or mule-like head of the dragons of Western Europe, to the camel-like head of the dragons of China. Although there are exceptions of dragons with bird beaks. Perhaps Cockatrices and so on have skulls similar to Dicynodonts (Mammalian reptile. Called “Turtle Cows” that lived before the dinosaurs. Ex: Placerias, Ischigualastia, and Lisowicia bojani)

[@loisonnut]

I sort of wish we didn't see much beforehand on the Twitter, but the surprises of the ecology and sizes still remain and it doesn't take away from the fantastic episode. 1. Do you have any plans for a story or write-up regarding the expedition and its casualties? 2. What happened after that Bear Croc opened the bunker? 3. What pressures prevent herbivores from becoming massive? (larger than 3 tons) 4. Are there any isolated populations of dragons in the world, perhaps from dragon riders? 5. Have any jackals been brought back to the known world? 6. What does the surrounding marine fauna look like? 7. Is there anything that war dragon wouldn't be able to predate? It's literally kaiju sized.

[@TalesofKaimere]

That's valid. I think I just get really excited while doing the works in progress and it definitely helps draw in views, but I can see why folks would want to go in more blind. 1. Perhaps down the road. I have so many plans for other anthologies, including one built around Assembly expeditions. 2. Took some rations and left. Although he did rip the door off, it was a slow process and gave the researchers time to escape out the back door. 3. Mostly food availability. I might be increasing the size of the northern Palatheres but it wouldn't be dramatic. 4. None planned but I won't rule it out this early in development of the realms beyond the known world. 5. Not yet, at least none that survived to modern times. 6. A topic for another time. I had a segment written up but I didn't have time for research or illustration so had to table it. 7. No, but that was part of the problem. At that size they could only survive if they were regularly fed by their handlers. The largest modern dragons probably wouldn't even reach qualifying sizes of the smallest war dragons.

[@burakka96]

I SAW THAT KEENAN! You can't just tease me with a pliosaur at the end like that! Fantastic episode by the way, was hoping for a little more info about giant Permian amphibians but i'm still happy with it.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yeah I ended up having to cut several segments because I knew I wouldn't have time for all the art, so there's a lot more to be told in future episodes!

[@rylanbrewer3320]

@@TalesofKaimere will they be afiture epsidoe

[@Jiji_guy]

The reasons on why these dragons got so large was unexpected, especially that photosynthetic part damn they crazy with those modifications

[@andredeoliveirafonseca3034]

Great episode. I love that this is almost the cryptid islands, with animals looking like dragons, jackalopes, shisa dogs, drop bears, mokele-mbembe and more. Also like and hate the "chin-ears", real uncanny valley. Also at the mentions dragon riders ... my head instantly starts playing the "aaaaaaaaa" GOT dragon theme.

[@stephenlamb4212]

The Permian islands, home to Godzilla and mother freakin DRAGONS!!!!!!

[@seanessdracosaurus2793]

OUTSTANDING!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you!

[@seanessdracosaurus2793]

@@TalesofKaimere your welcome , btw is there a red variant to the dragons ? ( because my home land 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 )

[@mann_man8556]

I’m not sure if you did this intentionally but I think it’s cool that the Sloth Croc looks like old depictions of a bipedal Stegosaurus

[@TalesofKaimere]

Took some inspiration from Godzilla but old stegosaurs and the idea of a therizinosaur turtle both impacted the design.

[@Nigel_BC]

Beasts so brutal they managed to hunt a population of Titan Crows to extinction 😨. Really drives home the dread of praying dragons never reach the known world. I’m floored by this introduction and I can’t wait to learn more!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks so much! Yes the combination of fearless domesticates and cunning wild animals is often quite devastating.

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

"Where are my flying Eborfeltherians!!!" - Some Permian island native.

[@1998topornik]

Permian Islands are nice mix of Permian animals, austrialia-like convergent evolution with a little bit of touch of Song of Ice and Fire. Overwall fantastic video but I feel like some things very cut out like dicynodonts and aquatic predators. I also expected that will do something very uncanny with some animals like suminia. Now its time to wait for what suprise awaits us in next two weeks.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yeah, I ended up cutting the segment on the surrounding marine fauna because there was no way I was going to get that art done.

[@MrT_Rex]

I don't understand how you can have a so awesome imagination for all of your animals, I tried on my side and I failed. TEACH ME, MASTER TAYLOR !!

[@joshdoz9234]

Why this hasn't been turned into an animated series is beyond me. It's so rare to find genuine original content that isn't saturated by corporate filth.

[@armata_strigoi_0]

I mean, that's the reason lol. Kaimere isn't an established IP, it's just one guys relatively recent world-building project. That's not to take anything away from it, it's just to say that random, independent projects don't get animated series. Maybe we'll see that if or when the books get big.

[@lamnaa]

What a unique and fantastic addition to the world! I look forward to learning more about this region, and the other parts of the world in the future!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks so much!

[@sivanlevi3867]

This episode was awesome! Unbelievable! I have been so curious about the life of the Permian Islands and the life of the Permian Dynasty in general, so this was a treat. I'm including many different creatures from before the dinosaurs in my fantasy world too.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks! Yes pre-dinosaur fauna so often gets overlooked but there are some really fascinating sources of inspiration out there!

[@worldforger0]

Hell yeah! I've been wanting an episode on the dragons and the Permian Islands for ages now, and you shattered my expectations. This has to be one of the coolest depictions of dragons I've seen.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you so much! Feel like I only scratched the surface but that just leaves room for future dragon episodes!

[@nooneimportant834]

Dang the Permian Islands are far larger than I thought lol. Very cool Keenan!

[@insiranomecriativoaqui6480]

Come to the Permian Islands, we have: -big bird -a bunch of crocs -not godzilla -what da dog doin -fucking dragons -and much more

[@TalesofKaimere]

An excellent summary. For international copyright reasons, I appreciate you stressing that it is not, in fact, Godzilla.

[@tnevy511]

Titan Crows: If only the guys could see me now! Dragons: Become Feral. Titan Crows: This is either really good or bad.

[@Littlekoji-df1cf]

Already love the detail of the scientific studying in the beginning

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you! Was a fun way to establish the lens of the episode and danger of the setting. Probably the format I'll use in other 'beyond the known world' episodes.

[@glarnboudin4462]

....Wait, the Assembly has *drones?!* Are they biological in nature, or technological?

[@TalesofKaimere]

In modern times they have technological drones brought from Earth.

[@glarnboudin4462]

Aw man - I was kinda hoping they had some First Children ones.

[@insanityplatybelodon5748]

This makes me wonder if dragons would become a more dominant presence in the next Dynasty period after this one, we'll never know I imagine, but it makes you wonder how Kaimere will evolve further

[@darrenheideman2546]

Now this is something unexpected, creatures that are "dragons".

[@vasantmasurekar4826]

Exceptional episode. Damn the dragons are terrifying and equally majestic. If by some way they reach the mainland. How much hell will they raise?? Also looking forward to the Jurassic island episode.

[@frankburton3002]

Nothing better to start off my birthday with!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah! Happy birthday!

[@frankburton3002]

@@TalesofKaimere thank you!

[@gerrardjones28]

I just found you series from my friend and its like a dream come true, your a master at this stuff it is super amazing and interesting!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you so much!

[@Storm-crow13]

Rewatching and at 3:02 that little guy in the top left, that looks like a little silent one. 5 days until I get to find out if this means the Silent Ones are a remnant of the First Dynasty.

[@billyholland5156]

If the dragon riders create boats that can act as landing platforms for their dragons...they will have invented the aircraft carrier on Kaimere and could forge a dragon rider empire....

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed it could become a serious problem!

[@feralaquarist8805]

Oh this is GLORIOUS. I would love to see a book about the initial study expedition.

[@TalesofKaimere]

It's definitely on my (very very long) project list!

[@chancegivens9390]

Also I know others have said it, but in my personal opinion, these are the coolest dragons I've ever seen.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks so much!

[@chancegivens9390]

​@@TalesofKaimere No problem! I just admire your work.

[@murilocorrea9360]

This episode reached ALL my expectations and some more! Great episode! NOW DO THE PERMIAN CONTINENT🤬

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you, and can't wait! That will have larger and more homogenized fauna, and a lot more from the Permian Dynasty itself as it was barely impacted by the dynastic extinction

[@murilocorrea9360]

@@TalesofKaimere hahaha take your time man, your work is great! Once I'm in a better financial position hopefully I'll sponsor an episode some day, your work gives me some much needed escapism and I always eagerly await a new episode!

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@murilocorrea9360 Thank you so much I appreciate it!

[@TedShatner10]

The Tapir Croc is probably derived from early to mid Triassic archosauria.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Some argued as much but there is no evidence of Triassic harvests

[@TedShatner10]

@@TalesofKaimere Nothing confirmed, but possible Triassic descendants seem blended in with the Permian and Jurassic fauna, and similarly very derived (I think those primitive reptiles who spin through the air with their tails as hatchlings may be Triassic derived).

[@barybarsboldia197]

Did you choose the venomous therosaphalians to make this so kaimere had is own Australia but this is crazy an I love it lol

[@TalesofKaimere]

Just seemed like a fun way to work out the spitting venom. Glad you enjoyed!

[@rylanbrewer3320]

Kaimere is australia the planet but permian island is like kaimeres mostly auatealia

[@indominusanimations3584]

Would definitely love to know more about the Sloth Croc! By far my favourite kaimerian megafauna! 😁

[@fraan9002]

One of the best videos so far Keenan, always happy to learn more about the outermost regions of the Known World, congratulations! One question, since the origin of the Permian Islands and the Permian Continent is linked to the Arctic Continent, can we assume that the fauna and flora of the latter also largely come from the Permian Harvest?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you! There will be a mix of first dynasty and permian dynasty descendants, but being isolated for 200+ million years, will be very distinct.

[@chheinrich8486]

I just had an excellent idea for a fan fiction, what if kaimere and the assembly exist in star trek and never go public after first contact with the vulcans, and then lets say either under kirk or picard, the enterprise goes to Explorer the Sektor of the galaxy where kaimere is located and because the assembly had knowledge where kaimere is, they snuck a federation ensign that is also a member of the assembly on the enterprise

[@OviraptorFan]

Wow this episode was a true treat to see! It’s so nice to see a place where non-mammalian therapsids still dominate! I do have some questions about the Permian Islands though. Do any dicynodonts remain in this region? Perhaps being small burrowers like diictodon was in the Permian, or maybe being semi aquatic like hippos. Speaking of which, does the fully marine dicynodont trace its ancestry to these islands or does it originate from the Permian continent? Are there any species of Venyukovioid-derived therapsids around? Species like Suminia were arboreal and specialized herbivores, likely feeding on leaves and twigs. If they do still persist on the Permian Islands, are they mostly relegated to niche akin to Tree Sloths both on earth and in the known world? If they are absent from the islands, do they persist elsewhere? Do any varieties of Archosauromorphs descended from Permian Stock persist? One notable example was Archosaurus itself, a three meter long Proterosuchid native to Russia and Poland. While that guy was by far the largest Archosauromorph of that time, others do exist like Aenigmastropheus of Tanzania and Protorosaurus of Germany and Great Britain. If any of these early Archosauromorphs persist, what kinds of niches do they hold? And finally, do any other kinds of Permian reptiles persist? Groups like the gliding Weigeltisaurids, early Ichthyosauromorhs(who were determined to have been around at least by the late Permian by recent studies iirc), as well as the Parareptiles like Pareiasaurs and Procolophonoids. We know about the Ardzhu, so do any other members of its group persist in these islands as well or did they originate from somewhere else like the Permian Continent? Sorry if this is a lot, I’m just really fascinated by this ecosystem and I’m hoping to learn more about it!

[@matthewschuchardt684]

A truly amazing episode this time around:) I really enjoyed the design of the saber jackals and surprisingly enough the dragons. I will admit I am a fan of the European style dragon more than wyvern, but these were great. :) I really hope we get actual dragon riders soon and I can’t wait to hear how this culture evolved and changes the structure of the society in the Premier islands. On a different note, would be possible to get more information on the domesticated animals of the Permian islands ? In particular, are the stallion birds, domesticated, and used as writing minutes?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks and I’m glad you enjoyed! Working out the dragons was a ton of fun. There’s a dragonrider story in the next anthology so I’ll definitely be talking about it later this year! They don’t have a ton of domesticates but do have some basics. Not sure if the stallion birds will be domesticates yet but they’re on the table!

[@jeffreyseamons5514]

I love your stuff. It's so well thought out. The way you way you work natural ecology together with fantasy to create unique creatures is fascinating. I wish I could worldbuild as well as you do. I'd be able to run some of the best D&D games of all time.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you so much! Love me some D&D I definitely want to put together some sort of Kaimere RPG down the road.

[@jeffreyseamons5514]

@@TalesofKaimere I'll be waiting patiently to see what you come up with. I've dabbled in a little game design myself (but honestly, what game master hasn't)

[@iliacdeleon1065]

Imagine if these dragons evolved their venom to be flammable and would ignite when exposed to oxygen like the deathgripper's acid blasts from How to Train Your Dragon 3

[@NobodieZ26]

Amazing work on these fantastic creatures.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you!

[@NobodieZ26]

@@TalesofKaimere You're welcome.

[@noahcreutziger7690]

This was an amazing and highly exciting episode! I can't wait to see what happens in the anthology, and what creatures we'll find on the jurassic islands! For some reason every time i think of the jurassic islands, that thing you said the giga should be in the Jurassic World Dominion review keeps coming to my head, "a giant semiaquatic carcharodontosaurid", only I'm imagining it to be a derived allosauroid. I'm also imagining a bunch of other stuff but I'll see what you come up with for this region!

[@stefanmoorejr]

Titan crows:A menace to the skies, death walks on broken wings, The singular most powerful pterosaur to ever exist Dragons: *I missed the part where that's my problem* This makes me curious, whats('s?) on the continent

[@MrT_Rex]

14:45 look at all those creatures !! They came from the Middle Earth or what ?! 16:45 WTF IS THIS ?!🤩🤨😵

[@lincolngravemann682]

Since some witches controlled fire in the known world did any enchant their dragons to do the same? And does the island of Meridia have a beacon

[@Dylan-Hooton]

Jurassic Island? I wonder what lives here! ^_^

[@masterbug8000]

Wow now there are dragons I can literally relate to more then in other media

[@leoornstein3963]

Hey Keenan, I think you forgot one dragon species.

[@MrEmilable]

was gonna ask about the jurassic island but, OHHH BOI that ending got me hyped,

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah!

[@StevenVargas-pn2ie]

I love your iteration of dragons some of my favorite up their with the dragons of the dragon slayer codex!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you so much! Quite high praise Sawyer's got some incredible stuff!

[@zakaryloreto6526]

Super sized synapsid dragons!? Yes please! (Even though they are more akin to wyverns)

[@transnewt]

its amazing that, despite multiple lineages evolving the "hopping biped" form, only one has ever grown large. i understand why, its innefficient without extreme specialization, its slow to start, and competition *exists*, so its only in near perfect conditions that its really viable, but once you have the adaptation you are the most efficient, most agile, and fastest traveler around.

[@transnewt]

im not joking. roos get more efficient at higher speeds, and where quadrapeds have to slow down to turn roos can change hop angle *rapidly* they even have the benefits of bipediality! the only problems are faced in rougher terrain and picking up speed, which can be big issues, but on the open flat prairie and deserts hopping animals already thrive? no issue!

[@yanderebeef5450]

I remember a long time ago when I jokingly asked about dragons and you answered a yes. This has been a fun series to follow back then and now.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Haha heck yeah glad you’re enjoying the trip!

[@truteal]

Is their going to be a sequel focusing on Dicynodonts, Pelycosaurs, Gorgonopsids, Pareiasaurs and other Permian inhabitants?

[@TalesofKaimere]

None of those are present as terrestrial fauna on the islands

[@rylanbrewer3320]

How about marine fauan

[@truteal]

@@rylanbrewer3320 Caseids?

[@matteorossi8240]

23:44 If they reach the know world, Who would win in a 1v1 fight between a giant feral dragon and a robust monarch megaraptoran?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Definitely the megaraptoran. Dragons at their largest might hit 2 tons, whereas megaraptorans can reach 8. Dragon venom would have impacts, but it isn't nearly as potent against archosaurs as therapsids. The dragon could do some damage with its venom, but if it got taken to ground, it would be over pretty quickly.

[@matteorossi8240]

@@TalesofKaimere well, at least the teropods still the Kings for the next milion years🦖👑🗿

[@landenriley8442]

I could see a movie, show, and documentary about this

[@dudotolivier6363]

The rumor about the tribe of new dragons riders isn't a rumor. It's an complete REALITY ! And the story of one of these riders from this very isolated island of the Permian Island, who itself is already a very isolated place, will be the main focus of one of Keenan's next Anthology stories ! If it's mentionend here as a speculative info, it's because that was said from the perspective all the Assembly naturalist, not from the common God-like perspective Keenan usually give to us.

[@timothystuedemann5390]

Are there still large Dinocephalians on the Permian continent? Also nice way to make the creatures unique to those islands.

[@Br0ck3n]

Oh. Well now I'm sad. SCP-1762 memories came flooding in. At least we know where they are now.

[@TalesofKaimere]

No SCP's in Kaimere, but indeed we do have dragons!

[@TroyColey]

Thank you for your hard work, we all appreciate it. You are awesome. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@drakelawrenceejurango5326]

The part of the video about the witch kings remindes me alot of elric of melnibone and the dragon isle, I can't tell if it was intentional or not but I find it really cool!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Glad to hear it! Not a name or property I’m familiar with but dragon riders are a fun and deserving staple of fantasy

[@lucassmith992]

I’m absolutely in love with this video, easily one of the top 5 of yours. I’m especially interested in it because in my world project, dinosaurs are a modern animal that evolved separately on a different far off continent, so my worlds prehistory was ruled by “Permian” creatures like synapsids and therapsids. There was never any sort of massive and cataclysmic extinction event however, so these creatures went on to evolve into their modern forms such as mammals. But yeah, this rules dude🤙🏼😆

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah man! I loved working on this one and am super stoked to work on the dragonrider story. Trying to consider what all I can integrate as far as fauna references into a short novella lol

[@eyeoftheswarm5708]

Permian Islands, more like dragon islands even though they’re Wyvern’s. Still, though, they will come to Kaimeran eventually, after all these islands cannot stay hidden forever, and when that day comes, the age of dragons begins.

[@taylorlynch7410]

I was wondering? After the Jurassic Islands during summertime. Are you gonna talk about that weird Permian Continent that's almost the size of mainland Australia?

[@TalesofKaimere]

It is on the roster for the next couple months!

[@taylorlynch7410]

Well until then here’s a little thought experiment I just thought up. Imagine if Kaimere had an Ice Age period, where the climate became a bit cooler then before and where sea levels dropped.What would the Permian Island look like under these conditions?

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@taylorlynch7410 As it (and indeed the Jurassic Islands) is a mostly-submerged continental plate similar to Zealandia, it would become a larger continent rather than islands. There would be lots of lowland habitat and I expect grazers would see a boom in population. The croc jungle would reduce and move south, perhaps having enough of a climate shift that the crocodiles would be seriously strained. As dragons really need roosts at elevation, they wouldn't dominate the more open terrain, so I expect the jackals might get a lot bigger and become not unlike a cursorial gorgonopsid.

[@taylorlynch7410]

@@TalesofKaimere Sweet! Could you perhaps show what the Jurassic Islands would look like under this context in your Jurassic Islands video along with the Permian Islands? Please

[@samuelruakere7728]

Nice vieo man really liked it just wanna know if you could do an in depth video on the synapsids and some of there species pls if not then i understand have good day tho.

[@nethergollum4219]

you had me worried for a moment that it was going to be "oops all crocodiles"

[@TalesofKaimere]

Would have been hilarious ngl

[@nethergollum4219]

@@TalesofKaimere yeah it definitely would

[@shingtiong9425]

How to train your dragon:kaimere addition.Also random question how did dragons have four extra long fingers on their wing since you know bats have one finger and three extra long one on their wing because there ancestors have four fingers same with pterosaur with three fingers and one extra long one with membrane.Also Dr grant and my dear ellie satler welcome to Jurassic island.Can't wait for the Jurassic island.Let me guess the apex predator is either an allosaur or ceratosaur and the dominant herbivores are descendants of something like a camptosaurus.

[@juanleuschner7457]

If I remember correctly the additional fingers are cartilage struts like the forth "finger" or Yi Qi

[@shingtiong9425]

@@juanleuschner7457 I don't know what those are but thanks for explaining.

[@TalesofKaimere]

So dragons have five true fingers (three in the hand and two in the wings) and the other two are elongated carpal bones to add additional support to the wing membrane.

[@juanleuschner7457]

@@shingtiong9425 I think I was supposed to say carpel strut. I'm not sure. It's basically a strut that's made of cartilage that acts like one of the fingers in the wings of bats

[@2003saul]

thank you for telling us about the dragons

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely

[@coreys.2456]

I adore Kaimere’s dragons. They have the insane size and power I’ve come to expect but also some science to back their existence up. I imagine you’re going to revisit these islands frequently in the future to flesh out the rest of the endemic life and tell more stories surrounding them. Some questions remain for me: 1. Are there any herbivorous megafauna that share the same niche as sauropods on the islands? The largest herbivore shown in this video seems no larger than a hippo and although that would be more than enough to feed wild dragons, I don’t imagine they’d be enough to sustain the domesticated ones, at least not singularly. 2. If any of the larger megaraptorans and dragons fought, who would most likely come out on top (mainly if the dragons remained grounded since they’d be untouchable otherwise). 3. Do you plan on getting to the firebirds at some point down the line? I’ve seen several posts about them but no video covering them in-depth. I look forward to learning about them whenever your ready. :)

[@michielayers3692]

All in favor of a Kaimere themed ARK mod say ‘aye’!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Aye!

[@rylanbrewer3320]

Aye

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

I was thinking in a hypothetical godzilla reboot, godzilla's species could be the the result of sentient lystrosaurus genetically experimenting on primitive Archosauromorphs to maintain a balance in the earth's mattle post the great dying (which they caused) and preform radiosynthesis, whom ultimately destroyed them. over the course of deep time these creatures gave rise to godzilla's species (and other kaiju). I was shocked and assumed to see someone else having congruently imagined this idea of an Archosauromorph godzilla almost exactly how I had imagined it.

[@TalesofKaimere]

It’s a fun idea!

[@Luca-kd2sg]

Very unique idea for spec-evo dragons! Was how to train your dragon an inspiration, specifically due to the theme of an island chain with dragon riders or is it a coincidence? Also do you plan to explore the people on the island in the future?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you! It’s a coincidence. Islands happened to be a good ecosystem for dragons that wouldn’t compete with mainland theropods. While I liked HTTYD a lot, it wasn’t a source of notable inspiration. It’s consistent with a few genre tropes for dragonrider stories I’ve enjoyed (Eragon, Her Majesty’s Dragon, Pern, etc) but no single story is of significant inspiration. The peoples of the islands will be explored down the road, and all characters in the novella will be indigenous islanders

[@Luca-kd2sg]

@@TalesofKaimere Very interesting! Thanks for the answer.

[@joey9833]

I hope there are relict Stegosaurs on Jurassic Island.

[@TalesofKaimere]

😶

[@joey9833]

@@TalesofKaimere 😥

[@williamminsinger7130]

Mini-zilla! Loving this episode.

[@TedShatner10]

The Assembly got a fairly well funded and equipped paramilitary taskforce running expeditions?!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Very well funded and they do like to recruit military personnel to run the protection detail!

[@TedShatner10]

@@TalesofKaimere How do they ship personnel and material from Earth via the Portal?

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@TedShatner10 When replicating, the portal naturally brought along things that the organism felt it needed, from gut flora to handheld tools. When the First Children refined it, they enhanced this trait to include ships, weapons, and clothing.

[@TedShatner10]

@@TalesofKaimere So the Assembly have their main HQ at the First Children's ocean city?

[@ghidorahmagnus1185]

22:40 Hotd Targ theme intensifies

[@lordcrusheryt]

9:07 amazing name.

[@alexanderstavroulakis335]

8:46 Croczilla! HA HA!

[@trykolo_indercrin]

the permain islands are the closest kaimere has to a mammel dominated island

[@TalesofKaimere]

Lol yup and even then the archosaurs still have the most productive and biodiverse habitat

[@HagdoBr]

Dude, i need so much the world map of kaimere.

[@TheEarlofManwhich]

How would bear crocs fair in Arvel? Would they get dunked on by firebirds, cockatrice etc. I assume they would otherwise try slipping into that meso predator role

[@TalesofKaimere]

Much like the sebecids, they would likely have short term success in closed forests but not last for long.

[@maozilla9149]

cool video

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks!

[@maozilla9149]

@@TalesofKaimere your wewlcome

[@LorenzoVargas1981]

Amazing stuff

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you!!

[@TheSandwhichman108]

I don’t think the dragons would survive long in other parts of kaimere. Mainly cause they’d most likely be out competed by pterosaurs being more maneuverable and wide spread and able to travel longer distances then dragons plus the fact there are also various lush forests across kaimere making it too difficult in most areas for them to hunt. Not to mention even on open plains the larger terrestrial predators would also be more likely to simply over power them in most cases. Even many of the large herbivores would simply be too strong to take down.

[@estemmenosuchus7081]

The dragons are awesome😀

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you!!

[@ryanchen1819]

What were the Permian Islands like during the Warring Clades Period?

[@TheSinisterSwordsman]

This was the perfect video for while I come down off of House of the Dragon

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah man!

[@Grant_Scarboro]

Honestly, if Kaimere is ever subject to colonial invasions by the Earth's western countries, then a fleet of feral dragons would be incredibly useful. I'm honestly surprised the various civilizations haven't considered adding a few of them to their armies. Aside from difficulty in transporting them overseas, of course.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Not only difficulty in transportation, but also control. A 1-2 ton predator that can spit nerve gas isn’t something you want roaming a camp. It’s been on a lot of military minds, but so far they haven’t found a practical application

[@davidegaruti2582]

Well synapsids struck back indeed

[@taliesincoleman6569]

yikes... imagine if the witches mixed the dragons with pterosaurs ULTIMATE AIRBORNE PREDATOR!

[@TalesofKaimere]

haha they didn't have that level of magic but would have been crazy!

[@trkagog6155]

The feast is upon us!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Here we go!!

[@levinjoseph233]

So let me get this straight now there are dragons in kaimaire freaking dragons and they even not reptiles and are more closely related to mamals Is there any chance that this dragons went through the portal to medieval europe and inspire the tales of dragons in North Western Europe

[@TalesofKaimere]

It's possible!