Marino's FIRST Start is Epic! (Bills vs. Dolphins 1983, Week 6)

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@ericsmith6823
@ericsmith6823 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Ferguson is one of those underrated forgotten quarterbacks from back in the day
@BillyRamirez
@BillyRamirez 3 жыл бұрын
He lives on in that hit from '85 when Wilber Marshall KO'd him and sent him flying in the Silverdome.
@bumpusjones.1978
@bumpusjones.1978 3 жыл бұрын
Bad team unfairly means bad QB it’s the same as Lynn Dickey. Ferguson had two functioning knees and a longer career but Dickey finished 3rd for MVP 1983 during his only “healthy” season and like Ferguson is forgotten.
@theshovel881
@theshovel881 3 жыл бұрын
@@BillyRamirez oh yeah, he was laid out. Bears took out 2 qb that game
@comfortat
@comfortat Жыл бұрын
No, he was rated right where he should have been. Never made a pro bowl, never took the Bills on a deep run. I liked him, but he was very inaccurate on most Sundays. He had some good games, to be sure, but he's not one of the top 100 QBs of all time. That said, had he had a good QB coach, and some stability in Buffalo, I think he might have been better than his stats show. He had some DREADFUL years (Throw out his rookie season, which was horrible, but 1977 and 1982... yikes). Throw out the 3 OJ years and the 2 good years when Chuck Knox started there, and Joe's teams went 32-65. That's putrid for a "good" QB. He won ONE playoff game in his career. If I was a Bills fan, I'd root for the guy, but you gotta face facts. He had some ability, but he was never in the top 5 QBs in any season he played in, and most times, not in the top 10. Why these franchises thought Chuck Knox didn't deserve a job is anybody's guess. He turned the Rams, the Bills, and the Seahawks into winners, but they canned him because they didn't win the BIG ONE...smh. The Seahwks let him stick around after leading them to a 9-7 wildcard team that made it to the AFC Championship game in his first season there. He took them to the playoffs most years, even though they were in a TOUGH division with Oakland and Denver in the 80's. I loved Ground Chuck. www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FergJo00.htm
@RageDaug
@RageDaug 7 ай бұрын
@@comfortat Yeah, but that's the same with every player. Once you throw away the good stats, all you have left are bad stats. "Look at his HOFer...if we don't consider all his good games and seasons, he kinda sucks".
@jayminmcdonald5660
@jayminmcdonald5660 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie Jones has a voice that melts butter. Miss that guy.
@otaviofrnazario
@otaviofrnazario 3 жыл бұрын
He was very underrated. NBC had a legend as #1 pbp back them (Dick Enberg), but Charlie could lead anywhere. He did many great games anyway
@briangreenberg6021
@briangreenberg6021 3 жыл бұрын
Jones was a legend too. NBC had those two along with Marc Albert Don Criqui, and Bob Costas doing games.
@johnmarlow7959
@johnmarlow7959 3 жыл бұрын
Just damn good commentators. Damn football was alive in these legendary days.
@shanetrimble9265
@shanetrimble9265 3 жыл бұрын
The great Charlie Jones and Len Dawson. My all time favorites
@jefferyrobertson7520
@jefferyrobertson7520 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanetrimble9265 my favorite play-by-play announcer NFL on CBS Pat Summerall NFC and NFL on NBC dick enberg AFC from the 70s 80s and early 90s
@CallAnExorcist_1
@CallAnExorcist_1 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Ferguson passing game was a thing of beauty. He was a great QB that never get full recognition. What a great game!
@Misterfreezeable
@Misterfreezeable 3 жыл бұрын
If you go on Wikipedia, his career stats show differently
@GlamprinceRockking
@GlamprinceRockking 3 жыл бұрын
@@Misterfreezeable No receivers worth a penny nor a descent running game.
@kjorg27
@kjorg27 3 жыл бұрын
@@Misterfreezeable I think they're more than respectable.
@CallAnExorcist_1
@CallAnExorcist_1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Misterfreezeable I know his statistics and most of his interceptions came up when Ferguson was over the hill. However, the statistics back in that time were not as good for most QB’s as is today, you are overlooking some intangibles. For example Dak Prescott have way better numbers than Roger Staubach and he has not win anything big. Joe Namath have even worse stats than Ferguson or Bradshaw and still he is a legend. Stats is not all.
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 Жыл бұрын
@@CallAnExorcist_1 well said
@Jkayski22
@Jkayski22 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Bills fan. Never really seen Ferguson highlights. That man could throw a football. Very impressive. Dimes everywhere
@williamgrant2463
@williamgrant2463 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Ferguson ever gets the credit he deserves, got overshadowed pretty heavy by another #12 but Fergie almost got the Bills to the show in 80 and 81
@marksmith4346
@marksmith4346 2 жыл бұрын
And he was in the league FOREVER
@comfortat
@comfortat Жыл бұрын
No, he was rated right where he should have been. Never made a pro bowl, never took the Bills on a deep run. I liked him, but he was very inaccurate on most Sundays. He had some good games, to be sure, but he's not one of the top 100 QBs of all time. That said, had he had a good QB coach, and some stability in Buffalo, I think he might have been better than his stats show. He had some DREADFUL years (Throw out his rookie season, which was horrible, but 1977 and 1982... yikes). Throw out the 3 OJ years and the 2 good years when Chuck Knox started there, and Joe's teams went 32-65. That's putrid for a "good" QB. He won ONE playoff game in his career. If I was a Bills fan, I'd root for the guy, but you gotta face facts. He had some ability, but he was never in the top 5 QBs in any season he played in, and most times, not in the top 10. When you look at his comparable QBs, none of them were very good either... guys like Jim Harbaugh and Norm Snead keep showing up. Here you go: www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FergJo00.htm
@BigJohnnyMoe
@BigJohnnyMoe 10 ай бұрын
Possibly among his best games. The broadcasters mention this being a career high number of yards passing for him to that point in his career, and he'd been playing for ten seasons. I'm glad he got the win here as he played his butt off that day.
@PhilJHaast7695
@PhilJHaast7695 10 ай бұрын
He had a few pro bowl worthy years.
@mabafi25
@mabafi25 3 жыл бұрын
It's insane how good he became, shouldve won a super bowl
@GopherBaroque61
@GopherBaroque61 3 жыл бұрын
As a 49er fan, I'm glad he didn't the year that he did go to the Super Bowl. Although, I think he did deserve a Super Bowl ring much more than Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson.
@aidan_anguiano5389
@aidan_anguiano5389 3 жыл бұрын
@@GopherBaroque61 As a phins fan, honestly we weren't experienced enough. The 49ers took that advantage and it showed, but I'm pretty upset Marino never got another chance.
@lkgrave4959
@lkgrave4959 3 жыл бұрын
If he had a decent running back than yeah.
@GopherBaroque61
@GopherBaroque61 3 жыл бұрын
@@aidan_anguiano5389 As time went on, however, Marino and the Marks Brothers (Duper and Clayton) were a force to be reckoned with.
@vivM.5497
@vivM.5497 3 жыл бұрын
This game hes not much better than tua.an we all bitch bout him.
@JaguarGator8
@JaguarGator8 3 жыл бұрын
Just to put this performance into perspective: The first time the Dolphins played the Bills earlier in the season in week 1 (minus Marino and with Woodley at QB), they had 26 net passing yards. Twenty-Six. God bless Marino
@RageDaug
@RageDaug 7 ай бұрын
God bless the Marks, Clayton and Super Duper. Neither played in week 1, probably 'cause the OC and/or Shula has a problem with starting young players. But once they get over themselves and get Marino, Clayton, and Duper together on the field, it's tough not being successful. Makes me think of Burrow with Higgings & Chase, or Mahomes with Kelce, Hill, and Watkins. Would have been interesting to see how quickly Marino achieved his greatness if his top two targets for 1983 were Tommy Vigorito and Tony Nathan (who David Woodley had to throw to in game 1 vs the Bills).
@bjchit
@bjchit 6 ай бұрын
@@RageDaug That wasn’t who Woodley had to throw to, that was all he could complete his awful throws to.
@RageDaug
@RageDaug 6 ай бұрын
@@bjchit yep, that was my point. Dude wants to give all the credit to Marino, insinuating Woodley was garbage, when Woodley had no one to throw to, and Marino had a pair of superstars. And not to take anything away from Dan. I still think he's in the argument for GOAT, it's just not a fair 1 to 1 comparison between Dan and Woodleys performance that year.
@bjchit
@bjchit 6 ай бұрын
@@RageDaug Woodley had Nat Moore and Duriel Harris to throw to, he just couldn’t get his wounded ducks to them very often because he was terrible.
@RageDaug
@RageDaug 6 ай бұрын
@@bjchit sure, and Marino had two superstar receivers to throw to. So yeah, super valid comparison to judge Woodley's 1 game versus Marino's 1 game I'm sorry, it's just a dumb comparison.
@frankguidera6828
@frankguidera6828 Жыл бұрын
The greatest pure pocket passer that ever lived and had an ability to keep rushing lineman off of him with his left hand
@TheEdub1
@TheEdub1 3 жыл бұрын
People forget Marino was a decent athlete and could actually move before his knee injuries. Marino ran a 4.8 at his pro day and was a good pitcher and short stop in baseball in high school that was drafted in the 4th round by the Kansas City Royals.
@kadelewis1363
@kadelewis1363 Жыл бұрын
There's no fuckin way he ran a 4.8😅
@TheEdub1
@TheEdub1 Жыл бұрын
@@kadelewis1363 Did u see Marino when he was young and in college? He ran a 4.85 at his pro day. He wasn't a stiff like Tom Brady Marino could move. This is before he ruined his knees. Look at his college and early years highlights of him running.
@juanpabloperez9063
@juanpabloperez9063 Жыл бұрын
Turtle Marino athlete😂😂😂😂😂 look at his rookie legs, is a shame turtle Marino.
@TheEdub1
@TheEdub1 Жыл бұрын
@@kadelewis1363 Did u see young Marino at Pitt?
@kadelewis1363
@kadelewis1363 Жыл бұрын
@@TheEdub1 Ok, Ill take a look
@DanielNuteson
@DanielNuteson 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY AN ACTUAL NFL GAME ON NFL THROWBACK! Also this IS a throwback 38 years ago.
@ajburrr
@ajburrr 3 жыл бұрын
Last one was Juju vs Lions one month ago
@Joseph-lz5er
@Joseph-lz5er Жыл бұрын
Marino had all the tools with size, quick release, cannon of arm, and he wasn't fast but had quick feet and nimble enough to avoid sacks. I did watch the documentary on his off field issues during college, but crazy to think he was second to the last player chosen in the first round and the 4th QB.
@Pastrychef90210
@Pastrychef90210 4 ай бұрын
He was the sixth QB taken.
@TalkMyShiit
@TalkMyShiit 3 жыл бұрын
Prelude to greatness ... mind boggling that he only made one SB appearance (SB 19) ... but definitely one of the greats and quickest release I have ever seen to this day ...
@otaviofrnazario
@otaviofrnazario 3 жыл бұрын
If Shula had a flaw as a HC, that flaw was getting too excited with Dan's game. Not because he wasn't great, he was. But that, maybe, was a reason to not build a all around great team. The Dolphins of the Marino era always seemd to have a serious lack of running game and, on times, defense. Even a talented passer can only do so much
@TalkMyShiit
@TalkMyShiit 3 жыл бұрын
@@otaviofrnazario Yeah... I think Dan wanted ALL the glory and therefore became too predictable if you ask me. Wanna beat Miami back in the day.. defend the pass because they always had a suspect running game. Imagine Thurman Thomas in Miami or another great back? Miami hasnt been to a SB since well Marino lost to Montana in SB 19. Closest they got was the 1992 AFC Championship game ...
@mr.majestic3851
@mr.majestic3851 4 ай бұрын
@@otaviofrnazario Shula last season rushing for 2k in a season , Was Marino rookie year , never again in his 17 yr career , Yeah Shula was hooked on Marino winning on his arm alone .
@stew6662
@stew6662 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that this game was not on local TV in Miami and I had to read about it in the paper. I remember that the players instead of being down about losing were very excited about the future after the way they moved the ball. God, I miss the Orange Bowl.
@aldfjak
@aldfjak Жыл бұрын
The new stadium is wonderful after the upgrades but the one issue is those dumb luxury seats. Owners pocket that money is why and Ross spent a fortune upgrading the place
@geraldmurphy1428
@geraldmurphy1428 3 жыл бұрын
Dan Marino, One of the Best Quarterback' s of all time' s.🏈🏈🏈🏈
@georgesteventon5396
@georgesteventon5396 5 ай бұрын
With no super bowl
@geraldmurphy1428
@geraldmurphy1428 5 ай бұрын
@georgesteventon5396 Good morning. I totally agree with you about DAN MARINO. He should have won a Super Bowl Ring. Your 💯 percent Wright. I'm just a Dolphin Fan 🐬
@mhthreeseventy5081
@mhthreeseventy5081 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Ferguson throwing Dimes!! 🎯
@lzv6990
@lzv6990 3 жыл бұрын
He threw a pretty ball.
@toddtaylor6506
@toddtaylor6506 3 жыл бұрын
Thing is who can name the guys he was throwing to ... as opposed to Marino who was throwing to Clayton, Duper and Nat Moore already in his career....
@Mr5thWave
@Mr5thWave 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought Ferguson was the most technically proficient thrower I ever saw. His form should be studied by every young QB.
@thomascoburn5481
@thomascoburn5481 3 жыл бұрын
Dude he was
@thomascoburn5481
@thomascoburn5481 3 жыл бұрын
I can Byron Franklin was a solid Wr
@omalley5196
@omalley5196 3 жыл бұрын
This game was a glimpse into Marino's future. The Bills will always be in your way.
@SPTO
@SPTO 3 жыл бұрын
It's always nice to be reminded that this was the official start of the Bills starting to turn it around against the Dolphins who absolutely OWNED the Bills in the '70s/early '80s. I actually have this one in my collection.
@daved1535
@daved1535 3 жыл бұрын
1987 was when the Bills turned it around against the Dolphins. After this game the Bills would lose 6 straight to the Dolphins until 1987
@SPTO
@SPTO 3 жыл бұрын
@@daved1535 True but at least it was the beginning of a change. The Bills were almost always an automatic W for the Dolphins for most of the '70s up to this date.
@Ptrixle
@Ptrixle 2 жыл бұрын
Dolphins are still ahead in the all time series 61-54-1, so the phins still own the bills.
@SPTO
@SPTO 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ptrixle Yeah well, since 2000 the Bills are 26-18 against the Phins. It's pretty much evened out and I could see by the end of this decade the all-time record will be tied or within a couple games of each other.
@TheRealDill93
@TheRealDill93 3 жыл бұрын
You could easily say, this game is Marino’s career in a nutshell.
@lzv6990
@lzv6990 3 жыл бұрын
This made me think of his shootouts vs Ken O’Brien.
@raypratt3611
@raypratt3611 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts word for word!!
@deanmarten
@deanmarten 3 жыл бұрын
That would be very unfair statement. Marino was a phenom. His early teams were the best he had. If Marino played today he'd have had 6,500 yards. Watching him in his early years I forgot he was able to move around a lot better prior to his knee injuries. He was fairly mobile.
@TheRealDill93
@TheRealDill93 3 жыл бұрын
@@deanmarten I think it fits well. Threw over 300 yards. Got his team into field goal range twice to win. Only for his kicker to shank it twice and then the defense to give up big plays and lose the game.
@hubertbishop8009
@hubertbishop8009 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealDill93 He also had a decent running game in his first season or 2. After that- NO "D" NOR RUNNING GAME EITHER! If he were to have had those 2 areas the way he should have had them he would have at least had a better chance at winning a SB.
@EdwardJamesCastSly
@EdwardJamesCastSly 3 жыл бұрын
Came to watch Marino play but damn this 83 Bills offense was spicy af hahaha
@Sinbin1786
@Sinbin1786 3 жыл бұрын
Ima bills fan but Marino IS A MONSTER
@astrostar49
@astrostar49 3 жыл бұрын
Fergie had a hell of a game. Glad to see you posted this. I hope during the rest of the offseason you spotlight more vintage gems like this one. One suggestion would be the 1994 game between the Dolphins and Vikings. The shootout between Dan Marino and Warren Moon that no one ever talks about.
@Catquick1957
@Catquick1957 Жыл бұрын
I watched this game live and was elated when Buffalo won. That's a long time ago.
@lzv6990
@lzv6990 3 жыл бұрын
13:52 I can’t believe this is Marino. It’s good to be young. If he played in this era with less violent hits and better medical care he would have retained that mobility he seemed to have from his youth. Also, he always had quick feet.
@aldfjak
@aldfjak Жыл бұрын
If he played in this era he would have thrown for 6000 yards and 55tds per year. Back then they played with only 2 wrs. The game favored defense too much and most head coaches were defensive coaches so they wanted it that way
@STP43FAN1
@STP43FAN1 Жыл бұрын
Less violent hits??? Better medical care yes. But people get off this myth the game is less violent today. Marino wouldn’t be better than Mahomes or Hurts, let alone Brady or Manning or McNair or Andrew Luck etc.
@STP43FAN1
@STP43FAN1 Жыл бұрын
The game itself didn’t favor defense it was the culture of the game that wouldn’t embrace that it’s THROWING MORE not less that controls the game better. It took the Brady era for the culture of the game to change.
@roland7584
@roland7584 Жыл бұрын
Cousins, Rodgers, Watson, Richardson, Jones, Taylor, Tannehill, and Stafford would all like to have a word with you. You can add Mahomes to that list too, since he's always limping around. Whatever protection these qb's may have, the hits still come, and the game is still brutal and injuries still happen. There is no guarantee for any qb to last in this era no matter what you want to believe. The game is faster than ever before and the players aren't selling cars or real estate in the offseason.
@Nick-7
@Nick-7 Жыл бұрын
​@@STP43FAN1 Most defensive players do not know the basics of tackling and wrapping up the players. The more violent hits you are eluding to is when they launch their helmets and bodies at wide receivers because they have never learned the basics and artistry of tackling.
@manuginobilisbaldspot424
@manuginobilisbaldspot424 3 жыл бұрын
Two teams that never should've changed their uniforms.
@Lee_Plenty
@Lee_Plenty 3 жыл бұрын
I was truly diggin' the Red helmets for the Bills.
@Official_Kings_Versus
@Official_Kings_Versus 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lee_Plenty Same 💯
@Videowatcher10p
@Videowatcher10p 3 жыл бұрын
The bills unifroms seen here are basically the same they have now
@toddtaylor6506
@toddtaylor6506 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lee_Plenty You know they changed to the red ones to differentiate themselves from the rest of the AFC East ... at this time all five teams had white helmets.
@toddtaylor6506
@toddtaylor6506 3 жыл бұрын
@@Videowatcher10p Was going to say Buffalo has basically come full circle.
@timg2088
@timg2088 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! So awesome! Joe Ferguson is from my hometown! (along with Terry Bradshaw) Two back formations, two TE sets! No gloves, visors, etc... for players. I'm really digging the old Bills uniforms. Especially with the blue face masks. Although I liked the red ones too. My Dolphins should have NEVER changed uniforms. I'm not a fan of the new shark/dolphin logo.
@yengvang8737
@yengvang8737 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest qb to ever throw the football. Sucks that the Dolphins can't play defense or else Marino would've had a Superbowl ring.
@brads.7525
@brads.7525 3 жыл бұрын
If you gave Marino the 1985 Bears defense, the Giants defense with Strahan, even Tampa's defense from last year, he would have won 7 of them!!
@hollyrochford
@hollyrochford 3 жыл бұрын
You mean couldn't play defense ;)
@jimbear3797
@jimbear3797 3 жыл бұрын
Never had a good running back either.
@roland7584
@roland7584 Жыл бұрын
@@brads.7525 Please explain how not having a defense (even though he had one several times) caused him to be so bad in the playoffs with a 77 passer rating? What did his own defenders do to cause that? How did he lead an offense to 10 total points in his last 2 playoff losses? What did his defense do to cause him to not score?
@roland7584
@roland7584 Жыл бұрын
@@jimbear3797 He had good running backs. Marino chose to pad stats in the regular season rather than hand off. The Dolphins were a decent running team and every year they slowly ran less and less until no running back was even getting the ball 200 times/season. They chose to rely on Marino's arm to win them a Superbowl and it failed miserably, but Marino and his ego loved it in the regular season so he kept the program rolling until Jimmy Johnson came around.
@nashvillebillsmafia5288
@nashvillebillsmafia5288 Жыл бұрын
Joe Cribbs was great. A contract dispute and short career left him underappreciated
@Riles3152
@Riles3152 Жыл бұрын
Marino would have shattered the record books if he played with today's QB "friendly" rules. His 84 season was and still is the greatest QB season in NFL history, all things considered.
@roland7584
@roland7584 Жыл бұрын
The best QB seasons ever are the ones where they hold up the Superbowl trophy. Individual stats in a team game are way overrated and when you throw more than everyone else, of course you'll have more yards and more td passes. Do it when it matters, and it becomes a big deal.
@deanmarten
@deanmarten 3 жыл бұрын
I listened to that game on 610 AM. I was in 8 th grade. I'll never forget it. I was going nuts. Praying, knocking on wood. Lol. Great game.
@paulanding7904
@paulanding7904 3 жыл бұрын
NFL Throwback, love what you do. Please, more old games from the 80s and 90s. These are so great. Your best content are the game films!
@nolankrause1107
@nolankrause1107 3 жыл бұрын
It's shocking to see that Dan and Don could never win a Super Bowl in the 13 years they were together
@ajburrr
@ajburrr 3 жыл бұрын
Also a bit more shocking that Don Shula is the all time wins leader and only won two SBs
@AlfredRusselWallace
@AlfredRusselWallace 3 жыл бұрын
The Bills played a bit of a role in that, although the Dolphins probably would've been slaughtered by the NFC East as well
@lzv6990
@lzv6990 3 жыл бұрын
Shula is to blame. He was seduced by Marino’s talent as a passer and didn’t build a well rounded team. He never got Dan a good running back or an OL that could outmuscle the defense. He basically wasted the 2nd half of the 80s trying to win by throwing the ball, and then when he tried to build a well rounded team he drafted guys like Sammie Smith. A devastatingly bad pick. Miami needed a back to keep up with Buffalo who was ascending. Even if he panned out it probably wouldn’t matter. The Bills cost Marino the 1st half of the 90s, losing playoff games to them 3 times. By the time the Bills fell off and Jimmy came on board Marino was aging out.
@stew6662
@stew6662 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajburrr I blame that on Shula’s blind loyalty to his assistants and front office personnel.
@raypratt3611
@raypratt3611 3 жыл бұрын
@@lzv6990 pretty exact,except I would take it a step further and instead of blaming Shula for not gettin the back for Marino,it was actually not building a D capable of slowing ANYBODY down with the exception of the 90 and 92 seasons and both yrs the D faded the last half of those seasons,although yea woulda been nice to have a back,but I'm not real sure Marino even wanted to run the ball,as with JJ he looked completely out of place handing the ball off and even then with a solid D and somewhat of a running game it still came down to him throwing the ball,well into his 30s
@DavidHanson915
@DavidHanson915 Жыл бұрын
Joe Ferguson along with Super Bowl QBs Terry Bradshaw, Stan Humphries, and David Woodley are all from my hometown of Shreveport, Louisiana. However, Dan Marino and I were born on the same day, September 15, 1961.
@sports3117
@sports3117 3 жыл бұрын
The first look at a legendary quarterback even though he doesn’t have a ring
@sonyakelton4827
@sonyakelton4827 3 жыл бұрын
This day, a legend was born
@johnmccallum2425
@johnmccallum2425 Жыл бұрын
It was always touch and go with Uwe Von Schumann. It’s amazing his stayed with the team as long as he did.
@sonic-qh7ed
@sonic-qh7ed Жыл бұрын
he came from ou so that might explain a lot
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester Жыл бұрын
Marino still to this day the greatest passer of all time
@thegreatrenaldo7718
@thegreatrenaldo7718 9 ай бұрын
No he wasn't. He was a gunslinger like Favre where they threw A LOT, and also threw A LOT of INTS. Surprisingly Marino's pass completion percentage was a mere 59%. He's a Top 10 QB for sure.
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester 9 ай бұрын
@thegreatrenaldo7718 most of that % came from the end of his career early to mid it was much much higher. Marino was the most accurate gun slinger of all time JR try harder. His last few years brought that down but don't take away from his greatness. Easily top 5 all time. The reason the league was slinging it is a large part to do with Marino to begin with, where it was run first mostly before him. He didn't only change the game and position He held every passing record for 20 years. Still holds records, most passing yrdd (61,361) most 4th Quarter come backs (40) ..So yeah Greatness in the flesh. He'd toss 60 tds in this current league
@thegreatrenaldo7718
@thegreatrenaldo7718 9 ай бұрын
@@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester End of his career? Yeah Guess again. He held most every record because HE called 70% passing plays and neglected a running game. If you think he's the greatest QB ever then you know nothing about football. He threw ALL the time so if he did play today his number would be about the same. I've actually watched him play in person about 10 times, have you? He's Favre and Kelly, Lots of yards, TDs and INTs with pedestrian completion percentage. There's a reason why he only went to ONE superbowl.
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester 9 ай бұрын
@@thegreatrenaldo7718 Ueah that reason is The Phins NEVER HAD A RUN GAME TO HELP TO BEGIN WITH or a defense. Casual hard to believe you watched him play saying all that nonsense...What I said stands and is true the records all of it. Also off course I watched him myself I watched greatness. As Payton manning also said and Joe amd others
@mikegray7850
@mikegray7850 3 жыл бұрын
Good lord I spent years finding classic games and this quality is like it was recorded yesterday. Thanks!. I have this game but not so clear.
@armandoayala5134
@armandoayala5134 3 жыл бұрын
Dan the MAN is the reason I've been a Dolphins fan since '83 his rookie year when he lost to Montana and the 49ers in the Super Bowl!! I was only 10 yrs old I'll be 48 this Saturday!!! I've heard it all seen it all and I'm still a die hard Dolphins fan with the team symbol tattooed on my on lower left leg in color!!! PhinS UP always!!!
@thefrase7884
@thefrase7884 3 жыл бұрын
Was it just me or was von Schamann bad !!!????
@ralphwilsonsr.3728
@ralphwilsonsr.3728 Жыл бұрын
Dan Marino was the best thing that happened to the Buffalo Bills who couldn't beat the fins in forever. They went 17-13 against Danny boy. Thank you Don Shula
@Pastrychef90210
@Pastrychef90210 4 ай бұрын
You beat him on Super Bowl losses too. Good job!
@KT72273
@KT72273 Жыл бұрын
I always think of #12 in a Bills jersey as Jim Kelly! I know Josh Allen is probably the 2nd most famous Buffalo QB behind Kelly but Joe Ferguson is majorly underrated! So many great QBs in that area who didn't get the recognition they deserved, like Ken Anderson!
@JM-po7fr
@JM-po7fr Жыл бұрын
Jim Kelly had to be the biggest joke in the sport, 4 straight years he took the bills to the superbowl and lost all 4 of them!
@nala3038
@nala3038 Жыл бұрын
@@JM-po7fr last time I checked a qb is only one of 22 or so players on the field.
@UnfortunateAltarBoy
@UnfortunateAltarBoy 3 жыл бұрын
NEVER had a defense or running back he could count on. Damn that release!
@roland7584
@roland7584 Жыл бұрын
How did Marino's defense stop him from scoring in the playoffs? How did his defense cause him to have a 77 passer rating in the playoffs? The running game disappeared when Marino showed up because he wouldn't hand the ball off. All they thought to do was pass, pass, pass. The coaches fell for it, the fans fell for it, but the smart teams didn't fall for it, and those smart teams were the ones that won championships. 10 points in his last 2 playoff losses speaks volumes.
@colinburroughs9871
@colinburroughs9871 3 жыл бұрын
The Orange Bowl (?) and it's back drop of that Miami skyline in the 80's is wildly underrated.
@Richie_Voltron
@Richie_Voltron Жыл бұрын
What a great punter Reggie Roby was. The follow through on that leg extension is textbook. What an awesome QB Dan Marino was!! The accuracy, the awareness, the Ball Placement, the anticipatory skills. Kinda reminds us of another Dolphins QB doesn't it? Oh wait, yea QB1 Tua Tagovialoa has all of those skills as well. Miss watching Marino picking apart defenses, performing surgery on the football field, One of the best Gunslingers there was. Nobody had pocket awareness quite like Marino. Pressure in his face, the footwork in the pocket was exquisite. The surveying of the defensive line and scanning the rest of the defense. Making sure his weapons we all lined up correctly, if you weren't he'd be the first to let you know where your supposed to be. That's what a Field General does. The most Prolific QB of the mid 80's-late 90's Hall Of Famer QB Dan Marino.
@roland7584
@roland7584 Жыл бұрын
That field general got his troops killed 10 times in he playoffs. He never delivered them to the ultimate victory. 77 passer rating in the playoffs. He disappeared when it mattered most.
@Richie_Voltron
@Richie_Voltron Жыл бұрын
@@roland7584 as great as Shula was he never gave dan a run game or defense. Look at the rankings
@roland7584
@roland7584 Жыл бұрын
Jimmy Johnson gave him the best defense and a good running game, and Dan delivered with 10 points in his last 2 playoff losses. He simply wasn't the best ever no matter how you slice it. The defense that was there when Dan showed up was a great defense. The guy just couldn't get it done. The great qb's take their opportunities and make the best of it. Marino could never do that, and for some reason there's 17 years of excuses and it's everyone else's fault including 2 Hall of Fame coaches. Marino killed the running game. Just look at the numbers and the fall off on rushing attempts. When they had rushers that averaged 4 yards/carry or better, it still didn't matter because Marino wasn't going to hand them the ball enough to make it matter. Stop the clock with a ton of incomplete passes and score quickly, and you can't keep your defense off the field long enough and the defense suffers no matter who the players are. He did that throughout all his prime years. The rushing attempt rankings don't lie.
@gregtrust5599
@gregtrust5599 3 жыл бұрын
This would be the first of only 2 losses in Marino's rookie season. No one was this great straight outta the gate 🐐
@toms6928
@toms6928 Жыл бұрын
Roethlisberger had the best start to a career of any QB in history imo. I loved watching Marino play he was awesome but Big Ben had a great supporting cast and was amazing his rookie season.
@roland7584
@roland7584 Жыл бұрын
Have you forgotten what Big Ben did? Or how about Tom Brady once he was allowed to start? Or maybe you don't remember Kurt Warner getting thrown into the starting job because Trent Green was injured in pre-season? 3 guys that finished the job that Marino couldn't because "the other team was better and it just wasn't fair".
@jovannipizarro
@jovannipizarro 3 жыл бұрын
Show someone Marino’s first and last game side-by-side and I guarantee you they won’t believe they’re the same passer
@BridgeEntertainment2001
@BridgeEntertainment2001 3 жыл бұрын
Really that bad in the Jags?
@otaviofrnazario
@otaviofrnazario 3 жыл бұрын
@@BridgeEntertainment2001 Man, that game was the jaguar eating the dolphin alive. 62-7 is a beatdown no matter what
@brads.7525
@brads.7525 3 жыл бұрын
Marino really declined very fast. He could barely throw the ball in his last few seasons. He should have hung them up 3 years before he retired. Marino was embarrassing himself!
@raypratt3611
@raypratt3611 3 жыл бұрын
@@brads.7525 WTF??u better go back and watch some of those gms,it was NEVER his arm,he could still throw the ball,even in his last season,look at the talent he had around him in the jj era??it was his legs NOT his arm,BRADYS arm is SHOT,has been for 3 seasons but look what hes got around him,and his arm was never as good as Marinos,embarrassment??ur a F'N embarrassment for not knowing WTF ur talkin about!?
@alg8818
@alg8818 11 ай бұрын
So you didn't see him the week before single Handley. Make a call back against the seahawks in the fourth quarter in that playoffs​@@brads.7525
@edwindundas863
@edwindundas863 Жыл бұрын
Joe Ferguson had perfect passing mechanics.His drop back and release were like Joe Namaths.He was held back by playing for a run oriented team with the great O.J. Simpson as the main offensive threat during his formative years.He only played one more year for the Bills,1984.
@frankguidera6828
@frankguidera6828 Жыл бұрын
Reggie Roby belongs in the Hall of Fame if he ain't already
@billfilice6408
@billfilice6408 3 жыл бұрын
I was at the MNF game in LA where Marino came off the bench to throw his 1st 2 TD passes.
@PrimeSportsNetwork
@PrimeSportsNetwork 3 жыл бұрын
I can watch these throwback games all day long!
@Shinobi33
@Shinobi33 3 жыл бұрын
The 3rd down throw at 13:55 by Marino scrambling was dope
@brianparton8934
@brianparton8934 2 жыл бұрын
Dual between the first year of the quarterback (1971) and the second (1983). Nicely cut post! -Marino fan/student of the game
@ibrahimkhalif83
@ibrahimkhalif83 2 жыл бұрын
Came to watch Marino but Joe Furgueson had an arm. Great passing. Looked like a predecessor to Aaron Rodgers.
@ronaldtrunk7944
@ronaldtrunk7944 Жыл бұрын
what impressed me about the Miami team was Reggie Roby hangtime
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 6 ай бұрын
People who weren't there when Dan came out forget how well he moved...when he tore his Achilles which never healed properly he really did play the middle and back of his career on one leg.
@iselin90
@iselin90 3 жыл бұрын
so techinally this is the 1st time Buffalo won in Miami while being in the NFL after being in the AFL
@billygunn7180
@billygunn7180 3 жыл бұрын
Well, we were 0 for the 70s, so it very well may have been.
@brads.7525
@brads.7525 3 жыл бұрын
It was. Buffalo had bad to horrible teams in the 60''s, 70's, and 80's. They got it together in the 90's but lost 4 straight Super Bowls.
@billygunn7180
@billygunn7180 3 жыл бұрын
@@brads.7525 Some of the teams, in the 60s were really good. They won two straight AFL titles. They should have beat the Giants in 91, and probably would have two more, if Minnesota didn't give Dallas all those high draft picks.
@rjflesher
@rjflesher 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, the Orange Bowl was a house of horrors for the Bills.
@billygunn7180
@billygunn7180 3 жыл бұрын
@@rjflesher So was Rich Stadium, when they played the Fish.
@mikelliteras397
@mikelliteras397 3 жыл бұрын
I watched this game. Who knew then. Orange bowl was a great place to watch a game, so long as you weren’t behind a pole. Reggie Roby was amazing. He wore a watch so he could check the hang time.
@erics2739
@erics2739 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks nfl throwback this is fire 🔥!
@krt88nc
@krt88nc 3 жыл бұрын
The highlights showed 1 Bills running play. Ferguson 38-55 for 419 yards and 5 TD’s
@mandalorion
@mandalorion 3 жыл бұрын
As a Dolphins fan, I can't get over the atmosphere in the crowd!
@spudmckenzie5649
@spudmckenzie5649 3 жыл бұрын
never been to the OB huh?
@nunyabidness9895
@nunyabidness9895 Жыл бұрын
I remember this game! Instead of being sad about the loss everyone was happy that we finally had a good QB. Fun times!
@jefferyrobertson7520
@jefferyrobertson7520 3 жыл бұрын
Less than nine years later 1992 AFC Championship Buffalo Bills beat Miami Dolphins 29-10 at Joe Robbie Stadium in Miami and Fort Lauderdale Florida how fitting 🏈
@JWD1992
@JWD1992 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how Dan isn't quite Dan yet in the first half. But after halftime, the legend begins.
@surfsunsand
@surfsunsand 3 жыл бұрын
Such a better game then than what it is now. Bigger pads, more hits, less penalties.
@Official_Kings_Versus
@Official_Kings_Versus 3 жыл бұрын
1983 was the Buffalo Bills' last season wearing white helmets all the way until 2010
@TalkMyShiit
@TalkMyShiit 3 жыл бұрын
The white helmets look way better than those abysmal red ones
@CallAnExorcist_1
@CallAnExorcist_1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks God the Bills return to the White helmets
@hollyrochford
@hollyrochford 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Super Duper upload. ♥️
@allanseaman4981
@allanseaman4981 Жыл бұрын
Excellent play at 11 minutes! That looks Wild Cat.
@walterreyes6770
@walterreyes6770 2 жыл бұрын
Love these old games. Marino went toe to toe!!
@ATLAS--__--
@ATLAS--__-- 3 жыл бұрын
A king without a crown
@deantzounakos5865
@deantzounakos5865 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a Joe Ferguson game...he seems very underrated in Bills history (if I considered this game).
@thefrase7884
@thefrase7884 3 жыл бұрын
He was good Dean....he just had mediocre talent around him for the most part
@5280Media
@5280Media 3 жыл бұрын
Watching Marino in the shotgun is poetry in motion
@yonathanjaramillo6670
@yonathanjaramillo6670 3 жыл бұрын
D. Talley vs D. Marino... So many games...!!!
@jamessolomon4252
@jamessolomon4252 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the old NFL, no controversy, no politics, no bs, just football.
@kaledafif7972
@kaledafif7972 11 ай бұрын
Yes love it!
@esteskefauver3919
@esteskefauver3919 3 жыл бұрын
Fergie was going off this game
@Sailor1010
@Sailor1010 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to say the same thing.
@davidcarcamo6905
@davidcarcamo6905 3 жыл бұрын
Y’all need to put more 80s content. What a game !
@dukefortune7998
@dukefortune7998 3 жыл бұрын
The Killer B’s, Marino, and the toughest stadium to play in The Orange Bowl! The good ole days of years past with the NFL. Signed Patriots fan, yes we had Steve Grogan and Schaefer / Sullivan stadium LOL
@zoso73
@zoso73 Ай бұрын
These weren't the Killer B's of the prior '82 season. Guys were aging and getting hurt. Giving up 38 points in the Orange Bowl in September is pretty bad.
@afmartin2734
@afmartin2734 Жыл бұрын
Charlie Jones was the best. What a legend. Miami's swiss cheese D just shredded.
@Agentsmith212
@Agentsmith212 Жыл бұрын
watching this in 2022, so much is different, yet much is the same.
@speedyeagle2.25
@speedyeagle2.25 Жыл бұрын
9:15 mark duper TD 11:05 Mark duper 2TD 15:44 Mark Clayton TD
@vizionaryentertainment8464
@vizionaryentertainment8464 3 жыл бұрын
That hit on the play action at 2:30 was vicious man. You could hear the impact on the videotape
@UnfortunateAltarBoy
@UnfortunateAltarBoy 3 жыл бұрын
Good old "Orange Bowl". Used to love going there.
@dennismumford6108
@dennismumford6108 Жыл бұрын
What a good team that Marino was lucky enough to be drafted by--the '83 Dolphins. They just played in the '82 S.B. , they were No.1 on Defense for Least Points Allowed, their backs had OVER 2,000 yds. rushing, and they had the Best Coach in the League. Too bad that Marino would get outplayed in the playoff game loss by Dave Krieg.
@dennismumford6108
@dennismumford6108 Жыл бұрын
How good was this '83 team---Don Strock had the highest Passer Rating that year of 140.3. David Woodley had the 2nd highest of 126.7, and Marino had the 3rd highest of 126.4.
@dennismumford6108
@dennismumford6108 Жыл бұрын
David Woodley still holds the Dolphins best Playoff Passer Rating of 153.8 from '82.
@dennismumford6108
@dennismumford6108 Жыл бұрын
One other note on that '83 playoff loss---Marino was very lucky to be playing his 1st playoff game against a Defense that was almost Ranked last in the League. What a break for a Rookie QB to be playing against a Defense that bad. How did Dan play--he ended with a Passer Rating of only 77.6. Turned out Marino would be playoff challenged a majority of the time in his Career.
@dennismumford6108
@dennismumford6108 Жыл бұрын
Those 3 Passer Ratings above are for a game in the Reg. Season.
@roland7584
@roland7584 Жыл бұрын
@@dennismumford6108 BOOOOOOM! That was a home game too against a team that had to travel from the West.
@clayhughes2849
@clayhughes2849 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Ferguson had a hell of a game!
@DeplorableJaredBrodersen
@DeplorableJaredBrodersen Жыл бұрын
It looks weird seeing a different QB on buffalo wearing number 12 other than Kelly. Rough start for Marino.
@ElCholoDeJolo
@ElCholoDeJolo 3 жыл бұрын
Great game, love those old commentators
@ericsmith6823
@ericsmith6823 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@stm8198
@stm8198 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad that this man left the league without a ring. I wish I could say the same for the bills. Oh wait
@BillyRamirez
@BillyRamirez 3 жыл бұрын
Strange seeing Marino without scaffolding on both knees.
@danfulop
@danfulop Жыл бұрын
Uwe von Schamann missed so many game winning kicks. I know converted some clutch kicks but the misses are what come to mind. 1981 playoffs against the chargers, this game, 1984 against the chargers at end of regulation.
@likedemlg
@likedemlg Жыл бұрын
Great picture quality for a game that was 40 years ago
@Neonator08
@Neonator08 3 жыл бұрын
Even with Marino making all kinds of mistakes esp in the first half he had something special about him. I really didn't see that in Tagovailoa. I hope this year we will see some athleticism and good throws.
@OfficialJaguarGator9
@OfficialJaguarGator9 3 жыл бұрын
While Trent Dilfer is the worst QB to ever win a Super Bowl, David Woodley has to hold the honor of being the worst to ever make the Super Bowl. No clue how he led Miami to the Big Game the year before
@nolankrause1107
@nolankrause1107 3 жыл бұрын
There defense was the reason... and then John Riggins happened
@Terror832
@Terror832 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Kapp, David Woodley, Rex Grossman are the worst QBs to ever play in the SB and they were the sole reasons why they’re teams couldn’t get the chip. I will say that SB 34 had the worst QB star power in SB history. I mean Kerry Collins vs Trent Dilfer. Compare that to 20 years later with Tom Brady vs Patrick Mahomes. It’s like going from spam to filet mignon.
@jayminmcdonald5660
@jayminmcdonald5660 3 жыл бұрын
@@Terror832 Joe Kapp was soooooo sweet though lol. Rex and Woodly were pretty awful. Joe was a good football player. Just had a really ugly style lol. But I’m feeling you on the other ones. I’d be careful about talking about Engine Joe though. He might try and beat the shit outta you. Lol
@jayminmcdonald5660
@jayminmcdonald5660 3 жыл бұрын
And you know what makes Trent Dilfer even more garbage? He talks about football as if he was a legend. It’s as bad listening to him as it was watching him play.
@r.g.o3879
@r.g.o3879 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken woodley split time as the starter with Don Strock who when he was healthy could make even Marino look second rate. Unfortunately he could never finish a season without an injury
@21MASSA
@21MASSA Жыл бұрын
Dan Marino was great and had some awesome receivers, Clayton and Duper.
@victorwilliams9674
@victorwilliams9674 Жыл бұрын
My favorite pair of wide outs to this day huge 🐬 fan ,I was 9 years old at the time of this game.
@richardmorris7063
@richardmorris7063 3 жыл бұрын
Very good game,lots of good rookies too.
@StubbyTheBee
@StubbyTheBee 3 жыл бұрын
And to think he would go down as one of the best quarterbacks who deserved a championship
@EyeTunz
@EyeTunz 3 жыл бұрын
Came for Marino, stayed for Ferguson.
@tjellis1479
@tjellis1479 Жыл бұрын
Not a Bills fan...but Joe F was dialed in. His mechanics are just as good as Marino. Not quite as strong arm though
@ExxylcrothEagle
@ExxylcrothEagle Жыл бұрын
Marino could not have made some of those passes without the Isotoner gloves. I'm telling those were so sticky some of the stick stayed on the ball and made it easier for the receivers to catch it
@dmark_23
@dmark_23 2 жыл бұрын
The NFL app needs to let us watch every game in history
@DOMICH59
@DOMICH59 3 жыл бұрын
Reggie Roby will never be there, but he was a Hall of Fame worthy punter.
@antoniodominguez3839
@antoniodominguez3839 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive video quality!!!
@cdc6985
@cdc6985 3 жыл бұрын
Man that was the story of his career with the bills. They always had his number right from the start.
@thefrase7884
@thefrase7884 3 жыл бұрын
Uwe von Schamann was bad!!!!!
@smkyka
@smkyka 3 жыл бұрын
Was this that Ray Finkle origin story from Ace Ventura? Kicker loses game twice in OT? Laces out?
@Armis71
@Armis71 3 жыл бұрын
Has to be.
@edge224
@edge224 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. now he's probably a female inspector in Florida 😂
@frankgifford207
@frankgifford207 3 жыл бұрын
@@edge224 No it's making a run for Governor of California as Caitlyn Jenner
@77Badger
@77Badger 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was wondering if this is about when the Dolphins fired PK Ray Finkle.
@jeremypearson6852
@jeremypearson6852 3 жыл бұрын
If Marino could have run he would have been virtually unstoppable. Too bad the Fins didn’t have a good enough defense in Marino’s era.
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