Non World Of WarCraft Gamers React to Warbringers: Jaina & Sylvanas

[@Quankhi1]

Ok, let me explain again the stories of the two characters, because they are different. The first one is called Jaina, a very powerful mage that in her youth was the lover of Arthas, the first Lich King, before he was transformed. She had a tragic life starting with his downfall, her journey led her to an ancient continent, called Kalimdor, where she met Thrall, a noble orc, that was just leading his people and tried to survive after they won their freedom. Her father, the grand admiral of her people followed her there and when they met, he couldnt understand her reasons in helping those orc, since he thought of them of being only savage beasts, not creatures with honor or reason. After failing to make her father listen, she stood aside when he and his army tried to imprison the orcs again, fact that led to his death. The song (the shanty) in the first video is her people's song about her, warning about the betrayal of the daughter of the sea, as they used to call her. The second video is about Sylvanas, the current antagonist, trying to show us the reasons she became like this. If you read my comment in the Wrath of the Lich King video, I said there that Arthas, after going down the dark path, he went and invaded the High Elves. She was a ranger general there, entrusted with the defense of their lands and really gave Arthas a good run, but in the end she was killed by him using Frostmourne, the cursed blade. But he didnt want to give her a peaceful death, so in revenge for all the trouble she caused, he raised her as a Banshee, under his control. When he eventually left for the Frozen Throne, she broke free and swore vengeance against him. After Arthas' defeat, she didnt really find a meaning to live, so she threw herself from the top of Icecrown and died. But in death, she saw eternal darkness and got scared of that faith. Some Val'Kyr found her spirit there and bound themselves to her and brought her back to life, and ever since, she is trying to avoid that death again and find a solution for it. Also, while in that eternal dark place, she met an entity called The Jailor, that she made a pact with, to send it as many souls as she could, while he was giving her power. Thats why she started the war, killed innocents, made the Horde and Alliance kill eachother, all to send the dead souls to that Jailor so she could get more power, culminating in the end with her trip to Icecrown, where she fought and defeated the 2nd Lich King, Bolvar, and destroying the Crown of Dominance, breaking the veil between our world and the Shadowlands, where the Jailor resides. Hope this helps you understand these characters and their motivations a bit.

[@andrewbrzezinski915]

Very nice summary.

[@laertesindeed]

Jaina was not lovers with Arthas…. they were only friends.

[@mavielor7394]

First lich king was Ner'zhul not Arthas

[@danielg2294]

Laertes Indeed No. They litterally talked about having kids. I think the comic even mentioned them having sex lol.

[@margisama]

@@laertesindeed Chapter 7: Arthas: Rise of the Lich King (canon by the way) "They joined the throngs dancing by the fire that night, causing the guards no end of consternation as they went right down among the populace and shook hands and exchanged greetings. And then they gave the dutiful guards the slip, losing themselves in the crowd and stealing away unnoticed. Arthas led her through the back corridors to the private living quarters of the palace. Once they were almost caught by some servants taking a shortcut to the kitchens, and had to flatten themselves against the wall and stay perfectly still for several long moments. Then they were in Arthas's rooms. He closed the door, leaned back up against it, and swept her into his arms, kissing her deeply. But it was she, shy, studious Jaina, who broke the kiss and moved toward the bed, leading him by the hand, the orange light from the still-blazing wicker man outside dancing on their skin. He followed, almost as in a daze, a dream, as they stood beside the bed, their hands clasped so tightly Arthas feared her fingers would snap in his grip. "Jaina," he whispered. "Arthas," she said, the word a whimper, and kissed him again, her hands reaching up to clasp his face between her hands. He was dizzy with wanting her, and felt suddenly bereft as she drew back. Her breath was soft and warm on his face as she whispered, "I...are we ready for this?" He started to answer flippantly, but he knew what she was really asking. He could not imagine being more ready to bring this girl the rest of the way into his heart. He had turned down the lovely Taretha, and she had not been the first he had said no to. Jaina, he knew, was even less experienced than he in such matters. "I am if you are," he whispered hoarsely, and as he bent to kiss her again, he saw the familiar furrow of worry cross her brow. I will kiss it away, he vowed, bringing her onto the bed with him. I will make everything you could ever worry about go away forever. Later, when the wicker man had finally burned out and the only light on Jaina's sleeping form was the cool blue-white of moonlight, Arthas still lay awake, running his fingers along the curves of her body and alternately wondering where this would all lead and feeling content to simply be in the moment. He had not tossed in a branch to the wicker man fire, because he had nothing he wished to be rid of. Nor did he now, he thought, bending forward to kiss her. Jaina awakened with a soft sigh, reaching for him. "No one can seem to deny you anything," she murmured, repeating the words she had said to him the day of their first kiss, "least of all me." He clutched her to him then, a sudden cold shivering over him, though he had no idea why. "Don't deny me, Jaina. Don't ever deny me. Please." She looked up at him, eyes glittering in the cool moonlight. "I never would, Arthas. Never." (yeah...just friends..no relationship here folks )

[@sovex9331]

The song is performed by the character's voice actress. She performed the song live at Blizzcon and her voice is indeed good.

[@ensanesane]

Laura Bailey is

[@itdano]

@@ensanesane *harp music*

[@Vhailor_Mithras]

Laura is a national treasure.

[@butteredpooper7750]

Jesus Christ, I just searched her up and she voiced a number of characters I knew

[@AntauriXX]

@@butteredpooper7750 She also has a youtube channel with other famous voice actors where they play dnd. It's called Critical Role and it's awesome.

[@wesrobinson3354]

Jaina and Sylvanas are two separate Characters.

[@wesrobinson3354]

Jaina Proudmoore is the daughter of Daelin Proudmoore who in Warcrarft 3 Died at the hands of the Orcs but was really in the wrong. He was blinded by his hatred and mistrust, and ultimately lost his life because of that. Later the Horde under another bad guy Warchief (happens to them a lot it seems) destroyed her Home of Theramore...Killing more of her friends and countrymen. She has a pretty big mean-on for the Horde because of this even though her and Thrall (another Orc) had a close friendship. She is a powerful ally of the Alliance and Once the Paramore of Arthas, who became the Lich King. Her people the Kul Tirans are some of the greatest sailors and shipwrights. She raises her fathers Flagship to aid the alliance in the fights against the Horde. Sylvanas Windrunner (aka the Evil Girl) was once a High Elf Ranger whom died at the Hands of the Lich King (Arthas), was brought back as a Banshee, and later Broke Free from him control and became the leader of other undead whom were free willed with the ultimate Goal of killing the Lich King (Arthas). Once that was done she threw herself from Ice Crown (The Frozen Throne) Where the Lich King's seat of power is and died a 2nd time...only to find herself in the Maw (aka Hell), she was saved by the Val'kyr. And set upon a path to survive for if she died again she would return to the anguish and torment of the Maw. However along the way she became an agent or partner of The Jailer the being who runs the Maw. The cycle of regular death was broken and now all souls go to the Maw for the Jailer. That is why she started the war and was so hell bent on killing everyone...to send souls to the Jailer...

[@Red14548]

@@wesrobinson3354 (Daughter of Daelin)*

[@seanh1321]

Literally the only reactors I've seen that think they are the same person lol 😂

[@TelepathieTTV]

@@seanh1321 that's so cute, tbh xD

[@acers09]

I figured the 2 names at the end of the video would've told them but I've given up on common sense in these videos lol

[@Logan-ef8hq]

Idk why watching people react to WoW for the first time is so interesting... But it is.

[@ryanb7426]

its great. they are getting sucked into the world we've been apart of for decades at this point.

[@Shiftry87]

Yeah it´s just a shame that most ppl even wow players dont fully understand this cinematic. For those that never played the bonus campaign in Warcraft 3 Frozen throne or hade it explained to them cant fully understand what is referenced here. Everything that happens and singed about in this trailer is a referance to that bonus campaign.

[@Logan-ef8hq]

I wish more players actually cared about the lore. It's one of the main reasons I play the game.

[@AikanaroSauron]

It's because they judge the artistic value more than the continuation of the story. Being a WoW player and fan since 2008, I can tell you a lot about the story, same as media personalities like Asmon or Soda, but the point is that with them you already basically know how they will react because to a large margin you know what they know. While reactions like this are more akin to showing someone a book you like for the first time.

[@AikanaroSauron]

@@Shiftry87 Oh come on, I've never finished any WC campaign as a kid because I wasn't into all the micro-control stuff, I've always liked BfME type RTS more, but despite of that I easily know what this is about.

[@CanerYILDIZ1986]

Not just burned the tree, there were ppl living there, women and children mostly

[@Langeng1]

to be fair, night elf's are moastly women.

[@jamesbaggett3655]

That would be blood elfs 🤣

[@herrbratwurstje]

The whole women and children thing seems kinda weird in the night elf society. With women being generally speaking better warriors.

[@TheWolle96]

@@herrbratwurstje before the war of the ancients and the rise in druidism the male to female ratio in soldiers and warriors was about the same, maybe sligthly towards the male sight even as can be seen from the spirits of the past in blackrookhold. After Arcane magic was banned from Nigth elven society though people looked to a new kind of magic, druidism taught by Malfurion, which an overwhelming amount of men applied for it seems. Those men went to sleep in the emerald dream and that's why the night elves have a gender ratio of about 60-70% female.

[@chamathnadeeshan4008]

Actually almost all civilians of tereddessil saved by adventurers and Greymane. Only soldiers died. That's a failed Genocide attempt. Only genocide in Warcraft history is the highelves and Loredron Humans killed by Arthas.

[@diablothepyro4564]

jaina (the first character) was on the verge of bringing peace between the alliance and the horde and her father was blinded by hatred for the orcs and the horde races he got in the way and tried to kill the orcs she was trying to make peace with and she stood by as they defended themselves and her fathers life was lost in the battle. shes a tragic character but shes blinded by a hatred for the horde after one of the warchiefs after her fathers death bombed theramore. a city she was in killing alot of people she cared about.

[@arthursantel5180]

and her brother was killed by orcs previously which is a reason for his hatred of orcs, don't forget how orcs entered Azeroth as conquerors, not friends :)

[@chamathnadeeshan4008]

@@arthursantel5180 her brother was killed in war against the Dragonmaw. Killed by Red Dragons for the deal with dragonmaw horde. Orc did enter the Azorath for piece if u read the story of Nerzul. "World full of food and water end the suffering on Draenor" also promise of things to kill to end the fel Bloodlust. But Guldan have true hidden plan to start war to weaken the Azorath armies. Exactly same thing happened in Draenor. War is planned.

[@autolicious]

If you listen to the lyrics they literally tell you her story.

[@ulquiorraschiffer1327]

yes, only if you listen, but i'm not sure they really do it

[@MichaelB769]

They do not tell the entire story and I can see how, because of that, parts of it are confusing.

[@Yutani_Crayven]

@@ulquiorraschiffer1327 They did listen but fate would have it that the only two times that they spoke over the lyrics of the song was the exact two times where it was mentioned that she stood aside while/when her father was engaged in battle

[@pauldonnelly4430]

Interesting to see non players' perspective. Keep up the dope WoW reactions!

[@JockenN]

To make a really long story short(er): Jaina is my favorite (female) character in WoW so this summary might be a bit biased. To summarize her story she is the princess of a nation called Kul Tiras. She has always been a pacifist even to the point of going against her father, Admiral Proudmoore, when he wanted to kill members of the Horde, a faction opposing the humans. This led to his death since Jaina did not stand by his side as the Horde was forced to kill Daelin (the Admiral), causing the kingdom she's from to make this song about her, portraying her as a traitor and as sort of a boogeyman of Kul Tiras, her own home. She later formed her own nation to lead and rule from, called Theramore, and it was bombed to oblivion by a leader of the aforementioned Horde. This caused the pacifistic Jaina's blonde hair to turn white and caused her to snap, becoming angry, vengeful and bitter. A very dangerous combination as Jaina is very powerful. In this song she reflects on her mistakes, humming the sea chanty her own people have made about her. Throughout the expansion she returns to her childhood home (Kul Tiras) and faces the judgement of her people, while also learning to forgive herself, her father, her enemies and everyone else, turning her from her warmongering path towards one that once again prefers peace, even though she is now willing to fight if need be. To me, it's a beautiful story arch about a pacifist who gets pushed over the brink, becomes very close to becoming what her foes are and maybe even worse, but eventually returns to her roots, having grown as a person. She is (in my biased opinion :P) one of the most well-written characters in the Warcraft Universe.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

Sylvanas is my definite favorite - but Jaina comes a close second.

[@Suckmymagnum2290]

Yes it was literally the Tree of Life(World Tree). It was also home of the elves. So by setting it on fire she essentially nuked a race.

[@KingMidgardsormr]

What's interesting is only part of the Night Elf race lived there. Their military capital still stands and it's where the bulk of their military is.

[@tuulz2712]

teldrassil wasnt the "tree of life" it was a seed from the tree of life. Mount Hyjal is where nordrassil is, and it is the tree of life.

[@sbloyd]

@@KingMidgardsormr True, but like it was pointed out in the cinematic - living in Teldrassil it's innocents... civilians, children... burned.

[@mavielor7394]

Teldrassil isnt the world tree lmao

[@gonzalonavarro9584]

Remember when she touched the Azerite, had visions about herself like a entity who can erase whole civilizations

[@thekingofcarcosa6408]

The two people in these videos are different people. The first was Jaina Proudmoore, the second was Sylvanas Windrunner.

[@medusa9112]

in the second video the significance of the tree is that it was gigantic, and sacred to the elves, which had a huge city at the top, and thousands were massacred in the fire, mostly women and children. And you saw the flashback to the transformation of Sylvanas into an undead banshee, which happened long before these events. The first video was about Jaina, who is a powerful mage, and she has issues around the death of her father, for which she was held responsible. These two story lines are played through in much more detail in the game.

[@AKAPrinceJake]

World of Warcraft story lore is like a movie I swear it’s so good you would both love the game

[@HavocHounds1988]

Jaina Proudmoore is an incredibly powerful mage, and hydromancer which is how she was able to raise the ship from the ocean, she is a human from the kingdom of Kul Tiras but left when she was a teen to study magic in the magical city of Dalaran.

[@lordmortarius538]

The main reason why Jaina is so chilling in this short is because of two things: Garrosh's bombing of Theramore, and the perceived betrayal of the Horde on the Broken Shore that led to Varian Wrynn's death. Everything good in her life has been taken away by the Horde, first her father when he refused to listen to her and attacked the Orcs when they first arrived in Kalimdor, then when Garrosh used the magical equivalent of a nuclear bomb to level the city she had built without provocation, and then when Vol'jin was wounded in the attack on the Legion front, Sylvanas pulled the Horde back, leaving Varian and the Alliance forces outnumbered, forcing him to sacrifice himself for his men to escape. She's had enough of trying to live peacefully with those who bring only war and death (no matter that those few who did those things were largely acting in their own interests and not necessarily on behalf of the Horde), and with the burning of Teldrassil and the genocide of the Night Elves in their home city, she's finally through. That's why she raised the Lord Admiral's flagship from the depths where it had been sunk, and flew it to Lordaeron, using her unmatched skills as the Archmage of the Kirin Tor to punish the Horde for their transgressions.

[@1angrykoala]

00:12 "She seems evil, like shes trying to take over the world." No, not evil. .....Nuts. Sylvanas is nuts Shes two gallons of crazy in a one gallon can.

[@bellidrael7457]

People have been explaining their motivations since their first reaction to anything Sylvanas related. They don't pay attention to comments and have literally no clue what's going on.

[@generalkenobi5173]

@@bellidrael7457 maybe because they probably pre record this stuff so by the time they see comments its already too late.

[@victorolson1477]

I don't think sylvannas is nuts she just has a diabolical plan with the jailor

[@nookschreier]

I disagree that's she's simply just nuts, but "two gallons of crazy in a one gallon can" is FANTASTIC. I LOVE that description.

[@tigerstorm6622]

Make it six gallons of crazy in a one liter can.

[@talonzor2476]

It's funny how she say "you've made life your enemy", when the undead were denied by the living (alliance) as a new race. Sylvanas didn't want revenge, she was under the Lich Kings command. She suffered and lost hope because most of the people she fought for lost their life (life is pain, hope fails).

[@kalisawindrunner5115]

sometimes I think Sylvanas just want to save Azeroth by making her their enemy, which is the horde and the alliance if that is true she is the real hero of Azeroth that everyone hates since no know. I hope the story will turn up like this, she is my favourite character in Wow, I wish Blizzard give her a better plot and ending. She deserves a better ending and story, She has suffered a lot, her sisters think she turned to a monster, no one accepts she and her people(undead).

[@iexhuume]

the first video is about another girl, jaina who was the lover of arthas the one who stabbed silvana in the second video.

[@laertesindeed]

It was never explicitly said that Jaina was a "lover" of Arthas…. there had not been any real romance. Friendship and teasing, perhaps...but no sex, and no relationship.

[@jiskool1]

Laertes Indeed bruh there’s a whole canon book about it. Arthas and jaina did bang and he even got cold feet about having kids with her.

[@danielg2294]

Laertes Indeed What? Theres so much story of their love life. Theres even a short story I think where she spelas of the love they had...

[@jiskool1]

@@danielg2294 Even qual thalas had the hots for her but she was so oblivious to it. it wasnt until arthas pulled up and made jaina his women that he almost murked arthas.

[@margisama]

@@laertesindeed you might want to read Arthas: Rise of the Lich King. They did indeed consummate their relationship and were all but engaged. It was only when she mentioned their eventual kids that he got cold feet and backed off a little.

[@thatguy-uq1pr]

"The leech king" -Mario B

[@KingApeiron]

Blizzard is trying to make me the Leech King with every week's cache...

[@MrBurningLake]

Can you react to Warbringers: Azshara aswell?

[@scg2242]

Jaina used to be crazy of hate against the horde, but she is sane now. Sylvanas has been seeking more power for a while and she is so powerfull now because she gets energy from old gods from the realm she opened in the shadowlands trailer. I recommend you too look for more lore, its amazing everything that has happened around this story. By the way I just started looking at your videos, really good content, keep it up guys.

[@randyranderson690]

I like how the woman enjoyed Jaina's song....swaying her head to it.

[@Mufteh06]

The Warcraft universe has such a rich story that it is impossible to guess the whole thing from one or two videos :D thats why its so interesting to see you guys, not knowing anything about the storyline, react to those videos :D keep up the great work, love seeing these WoW reactions :) but my advice, try going chronologically if you want to grasp what is going on

[@peicewetan]

It’s really interesting seeing a non-players take on the out of context cinematics. I’d suggest watching one of Nobbel87’s video on Sylvanas or the Lich King to get a broader understanding on the story.

[@JekyViews]

Nobbel87 has done a great video on Jaina as well. She’s a very interesting character, imo.

[@ericlefebvre9357]

Great reaction. I can't wait for your reaction to these cinematics: Here is the cinematic of the legion expansion and those we see in game before the Battle for Azeroth expansion to better understand the story. Sylvanas, Anduin, Varian... 1. World of Warcraft: Legion Cinematic Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4qxdHarZd5gf9U 2. Legion - Alliance Broken Shore Cinematic kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpbVf5epncR7Y8k 3. Legion - Horde Broken Shore Cinematic kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXaceYmvZtuardU 4. World of Warcraft "Fate of The Horde" cinematic kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2WymX-lmbOgedE 5. World of Warcraft "A Found Memento" cinematic kzbin.info/www/bejne/inm2oKqBiaZpZ7M

[@acers09]

This was a horrible reaction lolol they lept pausing shit and didn't realize they are 2 different people EVEN AFTER SAYING THE 2 VERY DIFFERENT NAMES

[@ericlefebvre9357]

@@acers09 When you don't know the game, it's normal to make mistakes. Even for a long-time World of Warcraft player, history can seem complicated to know everything

[@Spike-xv1ts]

@@ericlefebvre9357 u wanna tell me u confuse an elf and a human with 2 different names/skin colors/EARFORMS xD

[@Asqroz]

You could also add "Rejection of the Gift"

[@G0Chiefs]

@@Spike-xv1tsNot to forget the Eyebrows

[@Garouwerks]

Thanks so much for letting us watch you both. I love to see non WoW players look over the cinematic's from the game because of how much you can pick up! Without knowing anything of this game and world... you both picked up nearly all of what we players.. know from playing the game. Love it.

[@membel]

Wow you guys hit that first one right on the head! Good job!

[@PaulGuy]

I love the art style they used in these videos. Blizzard really needs to let their video teams make feature films.

[@yellowsocks2835]

As a player, I've enjoyed your reactions to WoW trailers. It's good to see what other think without knowing background lore of the game. Great Job!

[@dravenpool]

Can't wait for your reactions to Mists of Pandaria and Warlords of Draenor cinematic intros!

[@TelepathieTTV]

Can't wait to see the reaction of Queen Azshara

[@Nexiebean]

For context, that tree she burned. Is a HUGE elf city as well with thousands and thousands of civilians living on it. She essentially murdered the majority of a race right there even though she won that war/battle.

[@ramblewheels2044]

These videos depict two different characters. The first is a human named Jaina whom you haven't met yet in any of the cinematic that you watched. Not sure why people told you to watch that one yet since you wouldn't know who she is and could get confused. The second one is Sylvanas, the Banshee Queen and undead elf whom you've seen in the cinematic. That one gives some backstory of how she got killed and twisted into who she is now. I would suggest watching in game cinematics in chronological order to get a little more of a grasp of who people could be. Perhaps do a series from the beginning of WoW, or even the ones from Warcraft 3, at least the Arthes one. Add on some of the patch trailers that tell stories. There are some youtube videos that have them in order. I am enjoying your reactions. It is nice to see how people react when they don't have an investment in the game. Keep it up.

[@Joshe16821]

I agree ^^

[@NuTsi33]

Oh yeah. For sure. If blizzard can do anything it’s making a good cinematic. Can’t go wrong here

[@Panurg81]

it's a tragedy. jaina accepted her fathers death for a greater good. then, when she eventually returned home, she was even senteced with death. all she did was trying to protect her people, for the survival of azeroth. that song gives me shrugs every time...

[@connormagidson2087]

Next one I'd recommend is Warbringers: Azshara - she's an elven queen who, in a calamity 10000 years before the events of World of Warcraft, made a bargain with demons that went poorly and ultimately resulted in the collapse of a magical lake at the center of their empire. The collapse was so significant that it broke the continent into pieces and flooded her empire.

[@joedunams7505]

I think that one is way to confusing for someone not familiar with the lore to understand. It's confusing for some that ARE familiar with the lore, lol.

[@RippanYT]

While Azshara's warbringer is one of the absolute best... for a non wow player, its a bit complicated to understand the whole timejump and the introduction of a Old God + The Black Empire just like that.

[@seanh1321]

This is the problem when it comes to reactors who don't even play the games, people keep suggesting they react to cinematics in a nonsensical order and it just confuses them even more.

[@jackmichael2442]

Really good video guys like always, thanks a lot. You guys should see all the Warcraft: Warbringers and the Warcraft: "Harbingers" (connected to "Warbringers") trailers so you guys can have a better grasp of the rest of the story, but also please do check out the original Warcraft trailers such as the ones from Warcraft: Legion (you'll see an interesting part of Silvana's life there), Cataclysm, Mists of Pandaria and Warlords of Draenor. If you want to learn more about the history of the Horde however, see the Warcraft: Warlords trailer. Been supporting you guys since your first Warcraft reactions and I've been following all your videos since then. Keep doing what you do and stay safe.

[@Quankhi1]

Just a small addition, if you want to understand the story of Jaina, I will post a link here, where you can see her story, after she raised that ship from the bottom of the sea, until her return to her homeland, Kul Tiras, the trials she went through there, the reunion with her family, and the conclusion of her story. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4CrooecbpaKirc

[@ericlefebvre9357]

It's even better to see this series of cinematics on the side of the Alliance and The Horde. Jaina's cinematics in game is also included. Otherwise it's going to be more difficult to understand the story by only seeing Jaina's side. World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth - All Cinematics & Cutscenes in Chronological Order(AT LAUNCH) kzbin.info/www/bejne/baOrkpSCopKdraM

[@jonathanblanks5899]

The tree was a city full of people. It was the capital city of the Night Elves.

[@Ragemuffn]

Should watch more of the rendered ingame model cinematics from Legion and Battle for Azeroth for more information. Also check out Warlords of Draenor. Their cinematic, ingame cinematic and Lords of War videos are really good as well. That expansion set up Legion which paved way for Sylvanas.

[@clownzzz4837]

The singer is Laura Bailey, famous voice actress and one of the players on 'Critical Role', which is a very popular online D&D show. You should check out 'Women of Warcraft', a panel where you got to see the women behind the voices of Wow.

[@carlwilliams9642]

WoW cinematics are just the tip of the iceberg for WoW lore.

[@kittyanya]

Imagine Hawaii, then make a tree massive enough to put it on top. An entire city and small villages lived up there. It was grown by a sect of night elf druids.

[@Th3Wildebeest]

Arthas, wielding Frostmourne (the runeblade he wields which was shattered in his death video can capture the souls of those it kills to fuel his power, thats why his father's soul shows up after it's shattered) laid siege to the capital of the High Elves (a sub-species of the Kaldorei which destroyed themselves and left the High Elves, Naga, and Night Elves, like the ranger she was speaking to, behind as sub-species) in an attempt to raise a powerful necromancer named Kel'Thuzad as a Lich utilizing the power of the Sunwell, a nearly endless font of arcane energy the High Elves fed off of. Arthas wasn't yet the lich king but Frostmourne whispered in his mind the voice of the actual first lich king and drove him mad before eventually bringing him to Northrend (a continent at the North Pole) to dawn the Helm of Domination and fuse with the original lich king's soul. On his way to the Sunwell he met the resistance of Sylvanas Windrunner, the Ranger General and her elite rangers. Essentially he washed over them like a flood with hordes of undead and rose Sylvanas as a Banshee by capturing her soul within Frostmourne, then releasing it as his slave, then used her to help destroy the land she was sworn to protect and drive her people to near extinction. Sometime later Illidan, a Kaldorei who was born tens of thousands of years ago and was now suffused with demonic energy to become the first demon hunter and he just so happens to be one of them ost powerful beings on the planet if not the cosmos, was ordered by the Burning Legion (a demon army that burned the entirety of the universe aside from the world where all this takes place on) who he was at the time in allegiance to in order to gain demonic power to eventually turn on them, to destroy the frozen throne, as the lich king, who was a creation of theirs to weaken the world before their arrival had rebelled. As Illidan did damage to the throne, the lich king's powers waned and undead in the south, like Sylvanas gained free will. Sylvanas then takes a roller coaster of a journey including re-animating her own body to inhabit it and be way stronger etc. in the name of revenge, hatred, you name it. Until now where she's essentially committing genocide across the world to increase her own power before destroying the Helm of Domination to open a passageway to the afterlife, called the Shadowlands, to do whatever her ultimate goal is, we don't know yet.

[@LokiTheAnsuz]

I can't watch "Warbringers: Jaina" without choking lol... It's so beautiful!

[@madzec]

I stopped playing Bliizzard games years because how corrupt they became, BUT I gotta admit they STILL make perfect cinematics to get chills from them (especially if you know lore of Warcraft and I played it since beginning before vanilla)

[@skiefyre123]

Jania's story is incredible deep and tragic. She is imo one of the best realized characters in the whole of Warcraft.

[@logoleaderFTW]

You should definitely watch the burdens of Shaohao series. It's a mini-series about a completely different character, but it's IMO the best of the best. You could watch that after the Legion cinematics.

[@talonzor2476]

There's a new video up "No more lies", a discussion between Anduin and Sylvanas. She explains everything :)

[@omgtopher]

The first is jania. She tried to put the differences between the alliance and horde aside to make peace with then but her dad refused to do anything but fight the horde, so she stepped aside and let him be killed in hopes of the bigger picture being peace. Fast forward years later the horde was ran by a psycho orc who bombed her city killing everyone and now she is set on revenge and hates the horde. Thats why she says “i’m listening now father.”

[@robertrossiter346]

The Tree she burned was teldrassil the world tree, its a lot further away than it looks, its gigantic, there is the night elf city of darnassus in its branches, so destroying it was also destroying the home of the elves themselves.

[@Tijuanabill]

Yes, Teldrassil is "the tree of life". Warcraft borrows from all human legends, and incorporates them in to their world, usually in very slightly altered form. Thor, the god of lightning, is Thorim, the titan of storms. HP Lovecraft monsters like Cthulhu are instead C'Thun. Dwarfs were former golems given the "curse of flesh", like in Lord of the Rings.

[@XxBluerainxX]

Yesssss! Your channel is legit.

[@Fethbita]

The first video was not her, she was Jaina, someone else.

[@aq_cbg_spartan2184]

hey great video and love the ferngully reference, the music in warcraft is a huge part and has been of a very high quality. please do the danish choirs version nobody on youtube has done a reaction and im like why its soo good

[@leristamerello8225]

I main Horde but I play both sides...and the quest after Sylvanas burns the tree was one of the few quests that show the devastation that was caused. You have to save as many as possible and you cannot save them all. I do love the Horde...but that quest was painful in the right ways.

[@TalLeyKAL]

Jaina proudmoore was seen as the betrayer by kul tiras ( her homeland) because she stood aside as her father battled the horde. Before the battle, jaina made a deal that she wont fight the horde as long as the horde does not kill her people. By doing so she left her father's side at the battle in Theramore Isle so her father forces vs the horde led by thrall and the boys

[@RatelRegalement]

Pure coincidence, but you managed to talk over the two points in Jaina's song that explain part of her grief and guilt. Particularly the line "But when he faced, those savage foes... /His daughter, stood aside/" There's some complexity, but ultimately even though she had little choice due to the situation, she still blames herself - decades later -for her father's death. 'Could I have handled it differently' , etc.

[@cole_deatherage]

i love all of your blizzard reactions, please never stop.

[@iddkfa803]

Even worse for Sylvanas, revenge was denied to her. The first Lich King, Arthas, was killed by us (the players) before she arrived at Icecrown Citadel. All she saw was somebody else (Bolvar, the guy from the Shadowlands cinematic) took his place, sealed in a block of ice. That's why it felt so satisfying when she destroyed the Helm of Domination, the other item that held the power of the Lich King. A story arc of hers finally closed after almost 17 years.

[@daverhoden445]

I'm kinda looking forward to when you've finally seen them all so you know the full story instead of just watching them out of sequence.

[@schnidigamer5211]

The tree was a capital city of night elves, there is ingame quest during this campaign, that requires player to save as many as u can, hundreds in space of minutes.. The quest u fail and pass out to be teleported away last minute As to sylvanas, she was ranger general of the blood elves, and the major defender against the lich King and army of the scourge, despite all her efforts, she has been betrayed and lich King conquered the city. It wasn't the end for sylvanas tho, because of how hard she made it for Lich King, he stole her soul and transformed her into a banshee, when he weakened she managed to escape his grasp and regain free will, along with regaining body. Her major plan was to kill arthas the lich King, in which she helped greatly, also becoming the leader of the forsaken Side note, kingdom of lordareon prince, arthas menethil, later became the LK. Jaina was his partner at the time, abandoning him when she noticed him changing. Jainas father, wanted to eradicate orcs, but jaina stood at their side, and never helped her father which indirectly led to his death. Following warchief of the horde destroyed the city she ruled, hence many things combined she seeks vengeance. Battle for azeroth takes alliance players to kul tiras, Jainas homeland, where she has to face consequences of her treason. Damn, I could be typing forever, but, watch more of the ingame cinematics, ideally from the same expansions, the story will make little bit more sense, if I may suggest Start with legion ones, then head into battle for azeroth

[@randomarknight8064]

Jaina and Sylvanas are TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. OMG Lol.

[@HavocHounds1988]

Man Laura Bailey's voice singing this always gives me goosebumbs.

[@erinnready8354]

World of Warcraft stories are very entertaining (even if sometimes poorly executed across numerous mediums). They will pull you in once you start following them.

[@ImperiousWow]

Nice reactions! I see you guys, have seen other BFA cinematics. Warbringer Sylvanas leads to Old Soldier and then comes Battle for Azeroth trailer and so on. If you wish to continue, there some parts between from Lost Honor and to Safe Haven which is good to know. Here you have seen Warbringer Jaina, then why not continue to see what she is doing. Here is list for those Turn the Tide

[@derghodaemon]

The next cinematic after that one is Terror of Darkshore. It's the night elf reaction to their homeland being burned.

[@spazbog123]

To get the full back story you need to go back into Warcraft 3 Lore. Sylvanas, Lich King (Arthas), Illidan, Kel'Thuzad and Jaina all start there. The story basically starts there up until that point it was basically Orcs and Humans and to get that story the actual Warcraft movie should get you most of the way there.

[@mac.1o798]

lol great reactions! Love how confused and mixed up you guys get.

[@moldveien1515]

So the TL;DR version of Jaina's story is that she to try to keep peace between the horde and the kul'tirans, she let the horde kill her father who had broken some seacefire if i remember that right or thereabouts, and this haunts here later on in life as the horde changes leadership and then bombed her city, killing everyone in it and destroying to beyond repair, but still never really being re-accepted by her own people the kul'tirans.

[@Wowreference]

The first woman is Jaina Proudmoore. She murdered her own father in an attempt to prevent a war because he was hellbent on genocide and wouldn't listen to her (hence why she says, "are you listening now, father?"). Her attempt didn't work - the war happened anyway, and she was viewed as a monster by her people for killing their leader. She was cast out into exile, and she is singing the song the people of her old kingdom made about her. Sylvanas was murdered by the Lich King and turned into a banshee as punishment for giving him so much frustration in battle. The scene was you saw was just moments before Varok (the big green guy) says "There's no honor in this! They will come for us now! All of them!"

[@Jessethoth]

Teldrassil was a thing WAY before Avatar. Also the way the White Walkers were done in GoT is very inspired by the Scourge which was in Warcraft 3 WAY before that. :D

[@teevor1]

You are still watching backwards. FYI start with the Warcraft 3 cut-scenes to World of Warcraft (Classic--->Burning crusade--->Wrath of the Lich King--->Cataclysm-->Mist of Pandaria--->Warlords of Draenor--->Legion--->Battle for Azeroth). And the story won't be so confusing by going from the end to the beginning.

[@mwagneri]

so i'm a long time wow player and lore fan of the franchise. I understand you are making these reactions videos without knowing anything about the universe of Warcraft and that's awesome. if you ever want to understand it more and fill the gaps so that you can appreciate these videos so much more, let me know and I can give you some pointers. :)

[@scottwhite6819]

Love your videos

[@deangeloellis729]

Jaina Proudmoore is a mage.....a human mage, she was the daughter of Leader of the Kingdom of Kul' Tiras. Jaina tried to stop her father from genociding the orcs who left the Eastern Kingdoms for Kalimdor to find peace. He pursued them and Jaina betrayed him to give peace a chance and to save the world. Sylvanas Windrunner (high elf) was a hero who became a twisted ass villain.

[@Burn3h]

Sylvanas did not kill the lich king to get revenge. The lich king who turned her into a banshee died many years ago. The reason she did it was to make a tear between "our world" and the afterlife, which is what you see in the trailer you reacted to previously. She made some kinda deal with a powerfull person from that realm during the current expansion or the previous one to overload the amount of dead people to cause chaos. That is what we will be exploring in the upcoming expansion pack coming out late 2020 where we travel to the shadowlands the realm of th dead.

[@AnikaJarlsdottr]

not the grim reaper, its the ferryman. the ancient greek figure who carried you across the river styx to the afterlife. quite often, if a sailor died on land, he was buried with a silver coin in his mouth to pay the ferryman for the crossing.

[@kalianoradoslavov7701]

You gotta check out Harbingers-Illidan, he is one of the fans most loved character and developed for over 10 years.

[@enfantterrible6011]

Jaina Proudmoore is first video, Sylvanas Windrunner is second one. They are different persons on opposite sides - Alliance vs Horde, Sylvanas is now ex horde...

[@RippanYT]

The world tree burning is Teldrassil and was the home city (Darnassus) of the Night Elvs killing thousands of women & children. That was also the reason Alliance attacked Lordaeron, the city you guys saw in the Battle for Azeroth Cinematic. Saurfang tried to explain to Sylvanas that the alliance would come for them if they did something that dark.. and he was right. It was also one of the reasons he didnt want to follow her anymore, there wasnt any honor in killing innocent people like that. But as we see in the introduction of Shadowlands... she kinda just want people dead and doesnt care who dies Fun fact: Blizzard added a quest right after this Sylvanas warbringer where you try to save 1000 of people inside the city, just to realize that the point of the quest is to understand that you can't save them all. Kinda dark, but a good way to show how big impact this would have on the alliance. Warbringer Azshara is one of the absolut best warbringers (tied with Gul'dans I think) but I will warn you guys that it will be a bit confusing. It's a story told thousands of years ago and introducing stuff like old gods and the black empire, can be hard to get most of it... but it still amazing work and art done by Blizzard so.. watch it!

[@Muloo]

you should totally watch the Illidan cinematics theyre so good!

[@gorgeouszan]

So the cliff notes for their backstories. During the time of the Third War Jaina led members of the Alliance to a new continent for safety where they ran into the remnants of the Horde as well. When the war concluded they actually formed a peace; the first and only time there was actual peace between the two factions. Jaina's father eventually came looking for her, bringing his navy, and upon finding the Horde attacked them. Jaina tried to get him to stop but he refused to listen and when it all came to a head Jaina ultimately decided to stand aside and allow the Horde to kill her father in order to maintain peace. Fast forward, leaders change, chaos happens, and a new leader in the Horde attacks Jaina and her group as tensions mount and ultimately destroys her city, killing many. From that point up until just recently Jaina had been struggling with a lot of hatred, rage, and guilt over her past decisions, even really becoming a villain for a brief time. Sylvanas was Ranger-General of her homeland and the high elves. When the undead attacked she fought as best she could but was ultimately killed and had her soul ripped from her body and used to attack her own people, becoming who we now know as the Banshee Queen. Upon regaining her freedom she became the leader of a faction of free-willed Undead called the Forsaken and upon being rejected by the Alliance found the Horde willing to aid her and her people. What she endured greatly darkened her outlook on life, she became very callous yet despite that she did attempt to gain trust from those around her but time and again events conspired against her and led people to continue to be wary of her. Even her attempts to reconcile with family that still lived resulted in them rejecting her. All of this compounded into the Sylvanas we have now, who views the living with contempt and as she gained power is now bent on wiping out life and seemingly unifying everyone in undeath.

[@mariomarques775]

At this point I think Arthas isn't the lich king yet he's just a powerful deathknight only after resurrecting kelthuzad (after that battle you saw) he becomes the lich king. He went to silvermoon( sylvanas city) and use the sunwell power to ressurect kel

[@Helman114]

Just a thing you should know about that tree; it was the capital city of the night elves and was also housing hundreds of human refugees. She set them all on fire.

[@AnthonyKamler]

So the two separate scenes were two people. The daughter of the sea is Jaina proudmore which yes her father was killed by orcs bc he was an ass and she(Jaina) let it happen. The second one was Sylvanas that’s the lady that you’ve been seeing. She was defending her homeland and then killed by the Lich king and turned into a banshee (hence the screaming) and then she broke free from his grasp found her body and joined the horde with the other undead that broke free of his will (now called forsaken) so she wanted revenge on the lich king and when he was killed (the og one) she killed herself bc she was done with her mission. She saw only darkness and was tormented in death and she made a deal with valkyr who brought her back and keep her alive (anytime she dies one of the valkyr take her place) now her sole goal in a lot of peoples eyes is to stay away from that darkness and she’s pretty much hell bent to stay alive. That is seen as her motivation and that’s why this next expansion we are going into the afterlife (which she opened up for us when she broke the helmet) bc she’s made some deals with some people in there and we don’t know where the story is taking her. Again cool video guys!!!

[@Gravy_Jones]

Warlords and harbingers are also really cool to watch.

[@simon92222]

The fact that they you don't really know the story is really just a estimate to the complexity of the Warcraft universe. I want you to delve into all of the cutscenes and cinematics to get an even more in depth understanding of the story. The truth is that its just soo much content. Regardless though, YOU GUYS ROCK, love the reactions keep them up.

[@olliminati]

Jaina was trying to make peace with the Horde (mostly the orcs) back then. Her father, the Admiral of Kul Tiras, a powerful seafaring nation, was pretty old fashioned, and tbh racist. He didn't want to listen to his daughter. Didn't believe her that the Orcs weren't corrupted by demonic blood anymore. Therefore, to protect his daughter in his mind, he wanted to kill them all. Jaina, for the greater good, stood aside. Which ended up with her father dying. To Kul Tiras, she is a traitor. That's why they say, beware of the daughter of the sea. It's a Kul Tiran folk song, practically created against her by her own people. On a side note, she stood aside because she believed she couldn't repel the Burning Legion from invading their world. The Burning Legion is an intergalactic, and interdimensional demonic army, led by a fallen Titan. A god, so to speak. Now, Jaina, after many losses and continued war between the Horde and the Alliance, grew bitter and cold. Slowly, but surely, growing to hate the Horde. And regrets a lot. In this clip, she attempts to return to Kul Tiras, and reconnect with her people. Sylvanas...you better watch a Nobbel video about her story in private. It's probably an hour long. Worth it though, she was a beloved character for nearly twenty years. Only recently, it appears, she has chosen a dark path. What you see in the video is Sylvanas burning Teldrassil, a world tree. About 95% of the night elven population lived on that tree. Not anymore as you can see. The flashback, was Arthas, the Lich King, invading Quel'Thalas, the high elve's homeland. He did so in order to abuse their Sunwell's power to resurrect one of his minions. Kel'Thuzad. While marching toward the Sunwell he slaughtered countless, destroyed much of their land, and tainted is with the undead. At that time he killed the elven's Ranger General, Sylvanas Windrunner, and raised her to a banshee. Eventually, she shook herself free from the Lich King's control over her, and formed her own faction of the undead, called the Forsaken. Which are part of the Horde. All I'm saying next is mostly theory, so take it with a grain of salt. Azeroth, the world they live in, is basically the egg of a slumbering Titan called Azeroth (Titan of Spirit or Creation, not clear to this point). Sylvanas now serves the Jailor. A being that rivals and slowly overpowers the Arbitor. The ruler of the afterlife. The Shadowlands. That's where we are heading next. Now, good and evil is...ha ha...complicated in the WoW Universe. It almost doesn't exist. There is almost always a but. Anyway, Eonar, the Titan of Life is part of the Titan Pantheon has, much like Sylvanas, done some shifty stuff with the scales concerning life and death in the universe. Argus, the Titan of Death, doesn't belong to the Pantheon, but most likely predates them. But the Pantheon or Eonar did something to him. He is basically dead or shattered. Tormented, so much, f...just search for the Wowhead video Argus Voice Line, you can feel the pain and rage in his voice. Especially the last one. Anyhow, the Jailor, maybe is a shattered part of him. Maybe! Argus appears to let's say, not be against Azeroth. None are somehow. Therefore, if the Jailor is a part of Argus, and Sylvanas serves him, then she might still be a protector of Azeroth. And a hero of sorts. Albeit not really one that fits the mortal standard of good.

[@JohnyFirst]

Reacting to Azshara's going to be awesome! Showing yet another whole different part of the wow universe! i'm jealous you get to experience it for the first time

[@Azhureus]

Are you guys playing the game already ?

[@SkoRnAlmighty]

Even if you don't play the game, the story is amazing all by itself, I would recommend some of Nobbels lore videos, not so much for a reaction video but just to enjoy a good story, I've played Warcraft since I was 5 years old, now I am 29 and this is by far the best story in a game that I've ever seen. I have shed more tears for the characters in this universe than I have ever for anyone or anything in real life. You could probably also find a playlist that goes through everything chronologically so you're not jumping back and forth in the story, which can make it confusing because all the characters as they are now have deep and complex stories that can be hard to follow without the previous stuff. None the less, good job and I hope you will immerse yourself in the amazing story of warcraft! :)

[@Crunchyfrog28]

Both videos are separate. 2nd video is how Sylvanas became a Banshee by Lich King

[@lolwtfldr3]

Jaina - Laura Bailey Sylvanas - Patty Mattson Both have such wonderful talents!

[@blackwolves6925]

The burning of the tree really was a hidden city the amount of lives lost.

[@jeep3r]

Jaina, the one in the 1st video, was torn by guilt for not siding with her father when he fought the horde, she fought alongside the horde some time earlier to save world but her father had decades of resentment against the horde, so she choose to respect her pact with the horde. I suggest you have a run at warcraft 3+expansion or the reforged version, if you have the time and patience is one great game and you have both these ladies "origin" stories.

[@jimboa20]

Ok, so, the first video is about a character you haven't been introduced to in the other videos you've seen. This is Jaina, a character that goes back to Warcraft 3. She moved a large number of humans to Kalimdor, fleeing the undead scourge, and founded the city of Theramore. Now, the orcs had also settled nearby, but Thrall, the leader of the Horde (at that time) and Jaina had brokered peace, and all was well for a while. Then her father arrived, chasing after the Horde. He immediately started a campaign against the Horde, breaking the peace. Jaina allowed the Horde to retaliate against her father, and he was ultimately killed. But the peace was kept. The Kul Tirans (the nation Jaina and her father are from) heard a very biased version of events and made the song about it, basically shit-talking Jaina.

[@deangeloellis729]

That tree was a World tree.....there was a massive city and a few towns. Its where most of the of night elves lived and most of them did not survive the fire.

[@BlackPenzo]

Just for reference. That tree is as big as a small country with people living there. That is like burning down Switzerland

[@jmt.7322]

Idk why I just imagine rivers of chocolate and cheese pouring out of the mountains now. Thanks for the image.

[@LauraSilverlief1]

Wesley Robinson gives an explanation of Sylvanas. Now I've never played World of Warcraft, but I played Warcraft, Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3. As Wesley said, in Warcraft 3 Sylvanas was a ranger, a High Elf, who was trying to stop Arthas from invading her home. He killed her and brought her back as banshee, as Wesley said, but she hated this existence that he had forced on her. She did break away from him, but last I knew she was seeking a homeland for undead who were free of their bonds. I don't know how or why she moved away from this goal. I really liked Sylvanas in Warcraft 3 and I don't like what they did to her in World of Warcraft. Just my 2 cents worth.

[@Tazytots]

Essentially what happened with Jaina is that she left her homeland while her father went to war with the Orcs. He died at war and her family blames her for not being by his side because they think they could have won with her help. She's driven by regret, and desire for revenge. To prove herself. Sylvanas pretty much ever since she was turned into a Banshee by the Lich King stopped caring about life in general. Slowly over the years turning into an undead tyrant.