Mark David Chapman (John Lennon Murder) | Mental Health & Personality

This video answers the questions: Can I discuss the mental health and personality factors that may be at work in the Mark David Chapman case? Mark David Chapman killed John Lennon on December 8, 1980.
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[@ilikeyoutube836]

I was only five years old when Lennon was shot, but I remember it very clearly, because it was all over the news and everyone was talking about it. I remember my mother crying about it. It's one of my earliest memories of anything

[@iainholmes2735]

I remember the day very clearly. I was nine years old. In the evening, the UK tv aired the movie Help! in tribute, and on the news there was an interview with one of John's teachers who recalled that during a school exam Lennon simply sat and did no work other than draw brilliant sketches of some of his teachers. My mother was a nurse in Liverpool, and knew John's aunt through her work. She said she was a bit of a 'dragon' (jokingly) but that she could see the similar character traits in both John and Mimi. She saw the Beatles several times as they were becoming famous in Liverpool: once running in and out of Woolworths store, and once standing on the steps (I think) outside one of the city's halls. I asked her what they were like; she said they dressed beautifully, and looked remarkable. A few weeks after John's passing I purchased one of his albums 'Mind Games': my first album purchase, and have loved, and played, music ever since. Great analysis of a sad case, Dr Grande.

[@sabrinacle]

Kym Jacobs my son was four at the time and he tells me he remembers me crying all day

[@ilikeyoutube836]

@@sabrinacle Seems like a lot of very young people at the time still remember it

[@roxannemoser]

I was 15. Lennon was a musical hero of mine, but my mother didn't like the Beatle's. I woke her up to tell her. She told me to shut up. I'm still heartbroken.

[@ilikeyoutube836]

@@roxannemoser 😥

[@1313MockingBird_Lane]

That picture of him with John Lennon gives me chills... And I hadn't known about the James Taylor incident in the subway, geez 😳

[@HarryDinesOut]

Yeah, me too. My jaw dropped.

[@arricammarques1955]

Pattern of behavior not terribly surprising.

[@1313MockingBird_Lane]

@@perenoel657 I actually did just look that up...you can definitely tell the difference, and it came up with a simple Google search, so I feel it's a bit disappointing that the other photo was used, it fooled me as a person who didn't know quite that much about this story 😕 I've unfortunately seen a few mistakes of the same nature in music related videos of Dr. G, but I give him the benefit of the doubt due to the number of videos he produces, it is what it is, ya know?

[@csilva3682]

I wonder why Taylor was taking the subway. He was way past famous by then and it seems he would have been harassed by fans by taking public transportation. I guess New Yorkers must be different.

[@watershedbarbie9685]

@@csilva3682 They are.

[@sksbc3895]

If you ever feel the entire world has lost it's grip on all common sense... just spend a few minutes with Dr. Grande and all will be set right again.

[@Knucklehead123]

Word up!

[@jaxbutterfly9186]

Absolutely! Well said.

[@landlubbr]

Hah, just today he was denied parole for the 11th time, what a coincidence! Great timing

[@Stephanie-up1kx]

I was thinking the same thing lol

[@dynjarren8355]

But he still gets conjugal visits from his wife so he can have sex every month. Absolutely disgusting! He should Not be having Fun on the Weekends while Lennon is Dead for 40 years! This is typical Liberal Lunacy! Policies that make No Sense! I wish he had succeeded in his Suicide attempt. He is an evil scheming creep! He also shot Lennon five times in the back like the coward that he is. Lennon had No bodyguards and was helpless basically. Big Mistake! Him and his delusions about the Catcher in the Rye. Stupid Book! Look at that smile and smug look on his face in his mugshot. He knows exactly what he did and why. He wanted to end a famous persons life so he could become famous as well. But he is not famous but infamous. There’s a difference! And I refuse to say his stupid name and give him any publicity. He deserves none.

[@giaparmer]

Is he not out of appeals yet?

[@thejokersonyou]

"I, like God, do not play w dice and don't believe in coincidence...."

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

@@dynjarren8355 Some big celebs now have second houses for their entourage and/or security. I went to the driveway (public land) of Julia Roberts' houses in Hamilton Island, Whitsundays, Queensland and she has a second connected house that was obviously for her security or retinue in tow.

[@2lynnw]

“He murdered someone who went out of his way to be kind”. That says it all about the murder of John by Mark Chapman. Thank you Doctor Grande. 🇬🇧uk x

[@2lynnw]

John Michalek Brian Epsteins death in 1967 was due to an accidental overdose of the drug Carbitral, not suicide. Sadly, he had a history of drug use. And it’s true that Brian had a crush on John, that was long before Brians death.

[@TheJollyMisanthrope]

Lennon had a reputation of being less than kind to women in his personal life.

[@lynngranata5717]

@@TheJollyMisanthrope I don't know about that. I think he loved women a little too much. He had a lot of affairs. Even though he was married to his first wife. Guys like him get all the girls and it goes to their heads. But he didn't deserve to get shot.

[@aarondavis8943]

John Lennon was not kind. He famously urinated on a group of nuns under a hotel balcony. He was cruelly cold towards his son Julian and later disowned him. He libelled Paul McCartney. He was often rude to people for no reason. He had a room just for his fur coats, including seal and snow leopard furs. I love the man's music but I'm not going to delude myself as to the man himself. He was an A-grade piece of shit.

[@Foul_Quince]

@@lynngranata5717 Yeah, he loved them so much he just couldn't stop hitting them.

[@irishstock2108]

I was 18 at the time John Lennon was murdered, and was upstairs in my bedroom studying. My foster Dad, who was 75 years old at the time, he was in the living room watching the late news, called out to me twice, to come down...He looked at me with compassion and told me what had happened...He had never given me the impression that he cared about me in any way previously but, that night I saw a different side to him...Yet at the age of 75, and I being a teenager, made me realize that I was no longer considered a slave of the govt system, and that he had indeed been paying closer attention than I had given him credit for. We were brought closer together due to a tragedy of such magnitude. RIP John.

[@jimchawki536]

Oh, maybe I'm projecting but I don't think I have seen you sad in this kind of way doing a video before. Truly touching and I get really sad about this one every time I think about it.

[@vals74]

It is a very sad reality.

[@lynngranata5717]

Thank you, Dr. Grande for doing a segment on Chapman. It is a saddening and difficult topic to discuss, but us Beatles and Lennon fans appreciate that you took the time to review it and then decided to post it on KZbin. Keep up the great work!

[@richardsoderkvist6383]

Thank you Dr Grande for your explanation of the whole situation the horrible sad tradgety of the murder killing of John Lennon by Mark Chapman. You explained everything real well. It's so true even after John Lennon was real nice to sign his name give his autograph 1980 on Mark Chapman record Double Fantasy. Then just a few hours later that night to kill him like that it's really horribly sad and tragic. It's true he should stay in prison the rest of his life. And another thing is if he ever got out from prison it would only be a short time hours or days he would be tracked down found and brutally killed murdered himself. So the safest place for him is prison.

[@neromax4424]

All of about 15 minutes ago I saw an article that this man just got denied parole for the 11th time, talk about timing with this video

[@elizabethwinkelaar4071]

Good he was denied

[@cinsationalcinema1776]

People would kick his ass if he was released. He is safer in mental ward prison

[@melissacooper4282]

I remember reading at one of the hearings the parole board members denied Chapman's release because they said it was for his safety that he should stay behind bars. I'm thinking that the board members were more worried about their own saftey than his. Had they granted his parole not only would he get killed by the fans but the members too.

[@lewskaanen812]

How is Imagine hypocritical? Hypocrisy is another word for fraud, someone intentionally trying to deceive you. Nobody 100% lives up to who they feel they should be. Nobody is 100% satisfied with where they are spiritually. Imagine is just a song. It's art. It means whatever you feel like it means. If you want to throw around the word hypocrisy.... - The band that wrote Sweet Home Alabama was from Florida. - The band that wrote Born On The Bayou was from suburban California. - The Beach Boys didn't surf. - Blackie Lawless wrote Widowmaker, claiming to be a million year old badass gunslinger.... the only thing he's ever killed is a few too many cheeseburgers.

[@charliebrown3082]

It's a way to shoot the "liberal" messenger

[@charliebrown3082]

@@spiritmatter1553 I know, everyone who isn't a trump supporter is now a " Communist". Lol pea brain

[@charliebrown3082]

@@spiritmatter1553 tell us all about your hate filled religious "Principles".

[@HuxleyWasRight]

Robert Hibbert according to Lennon’s PA by the time he died he didn’t really like imagine, he thought it was cringey and also voiced support for Reagan.

[@Vivi_9]

Right, a song about loving your fellow man is "nihilistic" lmao

[@jamesw17]

The problem with the Ethical Mental Health Professional Of The Year award is that recipients always refuse it for ethical reasons.

[@carmenbatchelor8044]

I was only 10 yrs old when this tragedy happened, but as a teenager & adult I always liked John Lennon & his music & have watched several documentaries about this fella..Chapman. I’m really glad I stumbled on this one 👍🏼👏🏼 excellent

[@cindyrhodes]

The distinctions between mental health categories can be so fine!

[@janetperez26]

I was physically and emotionally abused by my father, grew up poor, my mother was a nurse of 35 yrs & I wasn't mentally stable for yrs after my brother killed himself (I am now). That being said, I have never killed or harmed anyone because of my background. Only cruel and disturbed people who DESERVE life in prison kill innocent, kind-hearted people like JWL (John Winston Lennon). JWL was the voice of our people in his influential days of life and even today. JWL always promoted peace, freedom, happiness and love yet died from hate and anger by a human being who shouldn't ever have even one minute of freedom! I don't consider MDC a human being. I consider MDC to be a cold-hearted killer and a MONSTER full of hate and anger. I hope MDC dies in prison. That's what HE deserves for taking away our earth's most brilliant musical artist of all time. LONG LIVE LENNON'S LESSONS OF LIFE & LOVE. RIP JOHN WINSTON LENNON October 9th 1940 - December 8th 1980

[@relicofgold]

Release Chapman now. Then he will get what's coming to him. It won't take but a few days. He'll be dead.

[@CB-ke9rs]

Oh my, this is the first time that I've seen the photograph of John with MDC. At first glance, I would have thought that this was a photo of a father embracing his son or two close friends embracing each other. The kindness John showed in autographing his album and waiting so he could have a photo was a gift of his presence, time and attention. It speaks to the kind of man he was and the heart he had for others. It saddens me that his generosity of spirit meant nothing to Chapman and that he decided instead to end his life in a way that showed a ruthlessness and a heartbreaking absence of basic humanity. As always, thank you Dr. Grande for this video and sharing your thoughts.

[@EmilyHaston]

That photo isn't of MDC. I believe it was of a photographer who JL would have at least known by sight. There is a photo of JL signed MDC's album while he looks on - you can see it of you google it.

[@ildaperes2226]

That’s a picture of Paul goresh and John Lennon. Goresh was a fan of lennons who got to know him and took pictures of him. Goresh is the person who took the picture of chapman getting a copy of his latest album signed by Lennon.

[@sendropehhtz8831]

Hello CB I find it interesting. That you mentioned how John's generosity mean nothing to him. To go further I think it actually would have angered this man even more. I know someone similar it's very disturbing to meet one of these people. Cowards with guns indeed

[@alnil5533]

Lennon was a wife basher

[@carolenglish8805]

I really like ur concern..kindness and ur humor towards those that u review..thankyou...your brillance shines thru again!

[@GameWareHD]

I used to be obsessed with The Beatles and I'm 19 years old, proves how iconic they were, their music never dies , R. I. P Lennon and Harrison ♥

[@TheMrsGeorgeHarrison]

Especially Harrison.❤️

[@counterflow5719]

"Never" is a much longer time than you seem to realize.

[@peggysue4235]

whats your fave songs

[@raultalmon1467]

Best band ever

[@fiona-lyons]

When it's Dr Grande, I find myself clicking like BEFORE watching the video. It's an automatic reflex at this stage. Even when the subject matter is grim, it's handled with a lack of hyperbole and with with a wry sense of humour that never disappoints.

[@kelcritcarroll]

Me too as he is so on the ball

[@Juggernaut365]

I watched the documentary on Gianni Versace’s death too, and these killings remind me of the kids who were losing while playing video games, instead of finishing the race or whatever, they would start driving the wrong way on the track and wanted to ruin it for the rest. It’s like they feel like loosing in life but want to make their mark no matter what that mark is or how it affects others. The scariest thing about death is nobody even knowing you were ever alive.

[@jaredticer6255]

My comment is a little late but i wanted you to know I’ve been listening to you every morning when i walk my dog and it really helps me to get in a good mood and off to a productive start to my day. Just wanted to say thanks for all the work you do for us as viewers and it’s really cool how well you respond to us with our questions and requests. 😁

[@RaysDad]

I really wish John Lennon was still among us.

[@SoftTangerineDreams]

Imagine following John Lennon on social media. He would be hilarious!

[@jeaniechowdury576]

Me too. He made the world better.

[@juan1323]

HOLY SHIT AMONG US REFERENCE

[@roxannemoser]

Imagine if he had lost his immigration case. He would've been deported, and possibly still alive. I never wanted him deported,

[@RaysDad]

@@roxannemoser The FBI hated John Lennon but they didn't have enough to deport him, only an old "possession of marijuana" conviction in England.

[@bobdecarlo7778]

Dr Grande, I like your stuff, like so many do. We listen & learn some from you. My thought is, it's almost always about a crime or murder or disappearance- so we learn about dysfunction & absence of good mental & emotional health. How about analyzing some successful persons- both famous ones(if you must) and not famous ones if you will. I want to hear about traits that are positive, effective & produce success in its many forms.

[@serendipitous_synchronicity]

Tragic outcome for J.L , his family & fans. Probably a good idea Chapman stays put. Thank you for your analysis on John Lennon 😊

[@serendipitous_synchronicity]

@@carlosidelone8064 Yes!! This time.. viciously taken, rather than falling from the sky ♡

[@RB01.10]

Exactly Chapman would probably kill again if given the chance. Hence why he’s been denied

[@barbaragremaud3499]

I was 11 when this happened. My sweet college friend Anna Zimmerman told me that she cried all night when John Lennon was murdered.

[@sherunswithscissors]

I’d love to hear your take on IQ - what does it mean in the real world? What can it indicate? Can it change? Great work, as always.

[@courgette3401]

Ordinary people was the best film ever. Me and my best friend cried all the way home on the bus! ( we were 17!)

[@leehelppie4544]

your conclusion about chapman killing someone who was nothing but kind to him, thereby making him an ongoing danger to the public, is spot on.

[@franmellor9843]

RIP JOHN LENNON!

[@damianstarks3338]

You are a legend !

[@adrianaandrade8809]

Oh that will be a great video! Thanks Dr Grande. Love ya 💜

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

Why there isn't a movie on the Phil Hartmann murder I'll never know. That story was incredible.

[@debrajones7344]

Thank you again, Dr. Grande. An, unfortunately, familiar case of a person overlooked for for far too many years regarding the mental health system. This happens again and again, then a person with your unique insights comes along and explains it clearly to us. Would that people could see it sooner and offer help rather than turning their backs.

[@diana3599]

How did he afford all the travel? Security guard gigs, working in a hospital (as a tech?), or at a summer camp are not jobs that pay well. And living in Hawaii is notoriously expensive.

[@teresahowick5197]

Travel was cheaper back then.

[@CaptApril123]

In the 1970's and 80's I was a student who had a part time jobs and security guarding on the weekend and did lots of traveling to the US and Europe from Canada..no way I could do that today with a 50k job.. yep it was much cheaper back then. Pretty much the same with rent, cars, etc..

[@dianayount2122]

@@teresahowick5197 But it was not free and he was working in occupations that did not pay well.

[@teresahowick5197]

@@dianayount2122 yes but it was VASTLY cheaper and money went much further. My dad bought a house in an affluent area in the 70’s for 22,000$. Now, that same house? Easy 1 mil. You could EASILY live on one income, with a basic job. Times were very very different.

[@Estelle-Maureen]

Superb analysis Dr. Grande. I had no idea that there was so much to this story. Thank you.

[@Subeffulgent]

Do you remember the cartoon called The "Littles?" They were a small elf like people that lived in the walls and only this one boy knew that they were there. Pretty creepy the similarities. Keep up the good work and may God bless you and your family

[@supergran62]

This was the first thing that came to mind when I heard that.

[@Subeffulgent]

@@Acetyl53 clockwork elves hahahaha 😂

[@sendropehhtz8831]

George spoke of little people " little people these little people who do ALL the work" haha I think he was promoted time bandits at the time little people who do all the work haha

[@imogensharma]

Thank you for your insights, Dr Grande! I've been an armchair psychiatrist for as long as I can remember and I'm a writer. Getting a professional glimpse into these fascinating cases is honestly like a dream come true. Your channel is going to grow and grow, you've carved a brilliant niche.

[@michellerizopatron1521]

One of the best, Dr. Grande! ...Subtly pinpointing the playings of psychosis since Chapman´s childhood...congrats on the finesse of an excellent analysis!

[@floratink]

Ordinary People is a good movie. I was blown away by the subject matter of suicide and just the realness of it.

[@teresahowick5197]

We watched it in highschool. I don’t know why my teacher thought it was appropriate for us. It was fantastic though

[@mrooz9065]

At the time of release it was one of the few rare movies where mental health professional was positively portrayed rather than either as cruel/evil or a Buffon for comic relief.

[@brendagriffin9217]

I love that movie, and was blown away by Donald Sutherland’s acting in the final seen-a true gift.

[@teresahowick5197]

Brenda Griffin he’s a fantastic actor. So is kiefer. His son Rossif is great too.

[@ringostarrs3rdwifeyxoxo869]

Really well done. I'm one of the Beatles biggest fans and I know Lennon could be a real a$$*le. But he took his fame and used it to protest for peace and love. Love was all Lennon ever truly wanted if you know what his growing up was. Psychotic or not, Chapman better stay his a** right there otherwise someone will splatter is head all over the ground. Lennon wasn't afraid to speak up and this world would be a better place if he was still here. We love you John. Rest In Peace. ✌💓😞

[@somethingyousaid5059]

Thank you for all those details. Thank you for the analysis.

[@YourPartnerInCrime]

Great video! I was always curious about him and never fully understood his mental status so this was helpful.

[@notvcinema8741]

Did you know that J. D. Salinger's son played Captain America? The father hated cameras and the son wanted to be an actor.

[@linusfredriksson7660]

Salinger wanted to be an actor as well when he was younger, I don't think he hated cameras and all that as much as he probably disliked the superficial nature of all that cameras, the media and movies represented. He had a strange combination of wanting to be recongnized as competent and accomplished, yet not in the way that society handles celebrity. He wanted fame on his own terms so that it didn't intervene with other contradicting parts of himself.

[@gojays8735]

@@linusfredriksson7660 BAM!!! Ty.

[@jguenther3049]

Salinger was one of the first GIs into the concentration camps. That probably affected him a lot.

[@simonebacato3957]

@@linusfredriksson7660 Fookin' A man, always thought you was more than just a great kicker!

[@linusfredriksson7660]

@@simonebacato3957 Hahahaha well when i´m not playing football or knocking up girls, you know i love me a good salinger novel :p

[@pinecone1113]

I would like you to talk about people who murder their friends for financial reasons. Specifically Denali Brehmer from Alaska, Ashley McArthur from Florida, or Liam McAtasney from New Jersey. They murdered Cynthia Hoffman, Taylor Wright, and Sarah Stern respectively. Each committed murder for financial gain, and each of them allegedly had a strong friendship with the person they ultimately ended up killing. Think you could talk about one or more of these cases?

[@therealrobschroeder]

Excellent job. Thank you for posting.

[@ljkoenig1]

Fantastic review! I almost always enjoy your commentary to the max! Thank you

[@marjieremole3004]

Hello Dr. Grande!

[@helpyourcattodrive]

I wore my Dr. Grande royal blue sweatshirt in Santa Monica and Malibu yesterday ...

[@kkheflin3]

Dr. G. Excellent analysis. Interesting as I have taught school for 30 years and taught this book many times. But John Hinkley had the book laying on his coffee table when police entered his home after his assassination attempt on Reagan, Robert John Bardo was carrying a copy when he murdered Schaeffer; and Lee Harvey Oswald also had a copy on his bookshelf when he shot Kennedy. I mean what's it all about? There has to be some connection! I'm going to do a deep dive on this one. Thanks! As always! You are so awesome.

[@corapeterson3022]

Hey Dr. Grande, Thanks for the bloopers on your ménage a trois video. You are hilarious! Let your dry wit shine through. Thanks for the time and energy you put forth to educate and help us cope. Stay well!

[@davidsoto4394]

No matter what kind of mental health problem he had he deserves everyday of his prision sentence. He is lucky he did not get the death penalty.

[@bellam7359]

Another interesting analysis, thanks Doc 💕

[@lis5827]

Dr. Grande, you are one of my favorite people to listen to.

[@felipeharger]

Thank you very much for this analysis Dr. Grande!

[@AndreaMartinez-ip2vu]

I clicked so fast! Love you, Dr. Grande! P. S. Can you please do a video analyzing to what extent bipolar patients are or are not "neurotypical" in between mood episodes?

[@geraldfriend256]

Good question.I think there's a lot of variance case by case.We tend to be at least neurotic between spells.Not an expert here just bipolar.

[@willissudweeks1050]

"The Catcher in the Rye" is actually a really weird book. It's an undramatized story of a kid who is likely becoming mentally ill and is therefore no longer meshing with society or his family like he used to. I read it around 14 and it put me in a kind of weird daze. I felt like Holden. One of my favorite books and the few days I was reading it are still very memorable.

[@Melons-vg8dq]

Was written by a "Ritchie Boy.". Evil people

[@rucianapollard4057]

I read "Catcher in the Rye" because I wanted to know what about this book that made high profile killers identify with the main character.

[@willissudweeks1050]

@@rucianapollard4057 Yeah they probably would in some ways

[@willissudweeks1050]

But Holden isn’t like that himself

[@RB01.10]

I remember reading it in my Freshman year of High School and thought it was very good. Holden felt like an antihero to me (IMO)

[@sarbjitsingh4982]

Highly interesting and educational as always Dr. Grande

[@elizabethraitanen5057]

Another interesting analysis! Thank you Dr. G!

[@--Valentina-]

I watched this episode because I love Lennon and Ono: two true artists. Before this episode it was impossible to understand what happened: the media characteristically misled us by writing that "a fan" killed Lennon. Thanks for shedding light. Lennon, the Beatles: forever part of us.

[@jv-ep2tc]

you are clearly not paying attention. there have been countless books and articles written on Lennon since 1980. this is not the first time we have delved into Chapman's history. to say that the "media" [whatever that means] misled you says volumes about you and nothing else.

[@--Valentina-]

j v your overbearing tone says volumes about you.

[@xiomanaxoxoxo3212]

It was unresolved rage he had for his father .When people suffer from these extreme issues it comes from the parents . The lack of love from his father and abuse he suffered is still unknown and to me it’s so ridiculous that no one has investigated how much abuse mental and emotional and physical he endured as a child .

[@Jorge-hj2tp]

My favorite Doc on KZbin! Your a gentleman and scholar my friend :)

[@GloriaCraven0213]

Thank you for your thoughtful analysis💔🙏🏼

[@cindyrhodes]

WHAT IS IT about THE CATCHER IN THE RYE that stimulates criminal idiocy?????????

[@landlubbr]

I think that book validates a lot of the feelings very disenfranchised people have, and some of those darker, immature feelings being validated may push someone to do something stupid

[@freegadflyathome]

Good book, but I've never understood the sympathy for Holden.

[@landlubbr]

​@@oliviatree Perfectly put! Great parallel

[@higgaroc]

What a weird and complex person Chapman was, walking the line between being a fairly functional, contributing member of society, husband, world traveler, Etc., and a drugged out, hate-fueled, delusional psycho for many years, fairly undetected, until his mind finally decided to make a full commitment to indulging the dark half of himself. What can we do to steer ourselves away from that side and help others also stay away from that ledge in their minds, so that this loss doesn’t happen?

[@theITGuy-no3nt]

I love how you always get the weapons details correct.

[@edwardcolgan6105]

In 1980 there was no “First Degree Murder” in New York. That was a ploy to avoid the more difficult task of eradicating the Death Penalty, which came back to New York under George Pataki. Great analysis as usual.

[@shaneneave399]

An analysis of John Lennon would be fascinating. From his wanting to see world peace, to being known to hit women. How the two factors can be within him?

[@ladybuggs11]

John had a traumatic childhood. I don’t think he ever really dealt with his issues. I guess there could have been an underlying mental disorder at play. He called Yoko mother. I would be interested in hearing Dr. Grande’s assessment.

[@marywarren8357]

He was horrible to his son, Julian.

[@ladybuggs11]

Mary Warren For sure. May Pang did a good job reuniting them while she was with John. He left nothing in his will for Julian, and Yoko sold off personal belongings that rightfully should have belonged to Julian. I guess at the time of John’s death he and Julian were reconnecting. I hated when John said Julian came from a whiskey bottle, and Sean was a planned child. I believe that was his last interview given the day he died.

[@jv-ep2tc]

@@ladybuggs11 Lennon's mother's death was the central and defining experience in his life. Everything else he did radiates from that center. Because he never really dealt with it [scream therapy didn't work] he no doubt had clinical depression for years. He was never calm, centered and confident for long. He is known as using drugs and later in life, at the very end, had an eating disorder [his face being almost skeletal]. It is my belief that he was just coming back to life in 1980. He missed his family in England and began reaching out to them. I also believe he would have ultimately divorced Yoko.

[@ladybuggs11]

j v I agree.

[@sofiaalmeida3770]

Very interesting, I knew nothing about this guy except for what he did to JL.

[@nunopumpkin]

Hi

[@mariaotto6732]

Great video Dr. Grande. I was not born yet when this happened but I learned to love John Lennon’s music and The Beatles altogether thanks to my dad. I will forward this video to my dad :)

[@aeris2001]

He should not be released, but he should not be in prison. He should be in a mental hospital. Same for James Holmes. Why does criminal justice have no respect for mental health?

[@gd44]

Unbelievably, in the 80s I worked with his old roommate named Dana. He was formerly a mercenary in S. Africa and a gun-nut. He talked, un-ironically, about showing Chapman all about guns and bullet calibers. I believe he eventually went on to become a cop. He had no remorse about the Lennon/Chapman ordeal. He was simply a gun enthusiast who realized some people wouldn't behave responsibly but promoted them anyway. However, I think his involvement was integral.

[@MrBigtime1986]

"Charles “Carl” Panzram " Is an interesting story

[@Rubashow]

Yeah. Pretty intense, very interesting story!

[@johnkeller3226]

Can you be a little more specific.

[@MrBigtime1986]

@@johnkeller3226 did you look him up ?

[@Rubashow]

@@johnkeller3226 He was a pretty early mass murderer who might have murdered around the world. He was brought up with very strict, poor German parents who immigrated to the US. I think they threw him out of the house very early and he started a live in which was incarcerated and brought into countless educational institutions. He was severely mistreated in all of them, joined the military and afterwards became a career crimial. He lead a very active live, going by boat (which he stole from people he killed) all over the US and even worked in colonial Africa, where he claimed to have killed 24 Africans just for fun. At some point he was incarcerated again, again mistreated and severely beaten and torturen with solitary confinement. He befriended a guard, who also wrote the eponymous book about him. He supplied Panzram with books and psychologic treatment. He read Kant and Hegel and became quite eloquent, even though he could barely read or write when this started. A pen palship developed between the two that gives really crucial interest into the mind of Panzram. This all ends when he became punished for something again, tortured and someting seemed to have snapped inside his mind. A couple of weeks later he killed the guy keeping watch over him. For this he got the death penalty. His example served as a catalyst for prison reform in the US and the guy he had the pen palship with was the man who organized it.

[@pepelemoko01]

He was High Strung.(at least at the end.)

[@mrs.reluctant4095]

Congrats to the milestone of 1600 vids, doctor. 💐

[@Wendy-zl8kv]

You are always so well studied, thought out, interesting, intelligent, and very handsome Dr. Grande

[@Arizona-ex5yt]

I just remember being bored to tears reading Catcher in the Rye. Different strokes, I guess.

[@crose7412]

@Arizona 4891 I didn't love it either and nor did Terence Stamp's character in 'The Collector'!

[@crose7412]

@Oscar Hunter That has been said.

[@dailyflash]

Lennon wasn't meant to leave us. He had so much more to give. And receive.

[@sherrywoody2142]

Great video thanks Dr. Grande

[@carmelhughesparolya899]

Gosh Dr. Grande I found this to be of particular interest to me, especially on your reasoning why he should not get parole, thank you so much 💕💕

[@vecernicek2]

As a sequel, could you analyze the case of Dr. Stephan Lynn? He claimed he has directly massaged the heart of John Lennon, and it turned out to be a lie (or perhaps a false memory). What are the mental health and personality factors that may be at work here? :)

[@reythejediladyviajakku6078]

Not liking a song is NO DAMN reason to kill someone

[@gjh9299]

Nickleback would be dead. It was the hypocritical nature according to him.

[@sendropehhtz8831]

Speak for yourself. People killed over Xbox

[@reythejediladyviajakku6078]

@@sendropehhtz8831 I have never heard about that but now I’m going to have to research it

[@sendropehhtz8831]

@@reythejediladyviajakku6078 it's wild isn't it

[@manewland1]

Hi Dr. Grande; I've been listening to all of John Lennon's solo material for the first time (the posthumous 1984 album, Milk and Honey, is next). I'm really glad I found this assessment, as it provides some context for the music. Thanks, as always!

[@lnc-to4ku]

There's so much information you gave that I was never aware of. Thank you for always giving such well researched and thorough material! I agree with you 100% on your opinion that he shouldn't ever be released, as you said, anyone who could actually look into another person's face, feel their warm, gracious energy, and then kill them in cold blood- should never be free again!

[@ataridc]

interesting he was obsessed with John Lennon and felt Imagine was hypocritical while he himself was being inspired by 2 different pieces of art to both do and not do the crime. It seems like he had an issue of separating reality and fiction.

[@sylvialupehernandez9154]

He a Taurus , like many " I hate fake people", many our self righteous hypocrites, sardonic and hates the truth, especially about themselves.

[@MeeMee-gz5vp]

I think he just wanted Lennon’s level of fame. Unfortunately, he got it. Can’t Google John Lennon without seeing some form of reference to his name.

[@carriegrisham]

Just saw you will be on Chris Hansen's show, Dr. Grande! Will be tuning in for that!

[@jv-ep2tc]

chris hansen? is that the guy who did To Catch a Predator?

[@carriegrisham]

@@jv-ep2tc Yep, that's him!

[@MitchellGWhitehead]

Thanks for the content Doc. See you tomorrow. 🙂

[@MuricaTurkey]

I saw "Ordinary People" as a teen in high school (they showed it in class for some reason. I don't remember. That was 25 years ago lol) and I really got attached to it. I really felt understood after seeing it. I had similar family issues (though slightly different) and while many saw the end of that movie as sad or uncomfortable, I saw it as hopeful. There's no real resolution at the end, so that can be sad, but the parent who isn't helping is somewhat honest about their issue, and backs off. Though it doesn't mean she going to abandon them completely. I wanted that, to some extent. I wanted my mom to be honest about her cruel behavior and back off. And I wanted my dad to be like his dad. My dad isn't terrible, but he checks out, would rather cling to denial than try to solve any problem, and enables my mother's unreasonable demands and cruelty. Like the mom in that film, she's not a monster, but she has some unhealthy habits and personality problems that can lead to her having interpersonal issues, and even be abusive. But these are from terrible abuses she endured as a child. This film helped me have compassion for everyone, including myself and it changed my life. I wish Chapman had been able to focus on that feeling after seeing it and continued to make better decisions.

[@rucianapollard4057]

I was touched by "Ordinary People" as well. I also thought the ending was hopeful. I think the young man (sorry, I forgot his character's name) was going to continue to get mentally stronger and form a closer bond with his dad. The mother had to go away to work out her own problems, but the son and the dad were going to bond.

[@polarbearsrus6980]

More evidence to support the fact that just because you have a high IQ, it doesn't necessarily mean you're smart. Never heard the part about him telling his wife he was going to do it; she should have been held accountable in some way. Hope he never gets paroled, no matter what kind of mental health problem he has. Dr. Grande, I find it disturbing how often mental health experts opinions can vary and the extent to which they can vary. What good is it to have the DSMs if doctors don't use them? Thanks for another interesting and informative video!

[@mrooz9065]

Psychiatry is a field in embryonic stage and DSM is a guide that a coder uses to translate the clinician’s documentation into payment. If DSM was enough, there was no need for thousands of books and research articles.

[@anjachan]

The IQ is more about how fast you can learn ...

[@mrooz9065]

Anja chan well said. IQ is hyped like a superpower in the eyes of public. I believe it has fascinated them because it’s a number. Individuals with top IQ and those in the range of 130s usually end up at the same finish line in life.

[@djhagrid300]

IQ is more like a capacity for intelligence rather than intelligence itself. They are a good indicator of how smart someone is but the closer scores get to each other the less the points between them mean. So a person with an IQ of 80 is going to be very different than someone with a score of 100 but a person with a score of 95 is going to be very similar to a person with a score of 100. This is why IQ is generally measured with standard deviation from the mean which is 15 IQ points over or under the mean of 100 points. So if your IQ is 130 that's two standard deviations above the mean, which is quite a jump from 100 or even 115. Deviation is generally the more important factor. But more importantly, IQ scores will change from test to test, there are 2 main tests to test IQ that are official, but given the same person, taking both tests multiple times and at the same age, the score will change each time it is taken. This all being a said, high and low IQs are generally a less reliable score than those scores closer to the median. Scores of 160 are all together considered dubious. It is incredibly unlikely that a person would have 1 or 2 standard deviations above the mean, let alone 4 standard deviations. So if anyone ever says they have a score of 160 or higher than 160 you can be almost certain they are lying, as less than 0.03% of people who have taken the test have ever scored that high in the total history of IQ tests. Another important point, IQ changes with age.

[@Lighthousepreserve]

Dsm v ruined the whole kabooodle

[@Estelle-Maureen]

I hope the parole board keeps him locked up... I wouldn't want him as a neighbor.

[@melissacooper4282]

Don't worry they will. They would probably get death threats and or killed otherwise.

[@nicholasjanke3476]

Ironically being released would probably be his best punishment. Hed last five seconds!

[@nicholasjanke3476]

Yoko Ono:"If he did it once he could do it again. To someone else. My son and I wouldnt feel safe. Other music stars would also feel unsafe."

[@leesawyer4272]

Another great video as always Dr.Grande! I'd love to see your analysis of the mental health and personality of Henry Hill (the mobster).

[@The_Rude_French_Canadian]

Great video and analysis!

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder, I''m not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could be happening with a psychotic space cadet like Mark David Chapman.

[@josephh.1346]

I hear that Dr. Grande is now the official psychotherapist for Guns & Ammo magazine. His column "Crimes and Calibers" in debuting this Fall.

[@ruthweed7723]

Hello. Enjoyed your discussion about Mark Chapman. Would you consider doing a segment about what the murder in Skidmore, Missouri in the 1980's? It is a fascinating situation. Thanks.

[@Beragon]

This made me choke up. I hadn't thought about this very deeply in years. But remembering Lennon's tenderness at that time after he had emerged from wrestling with his own demons to brave;y face the world again blindsided me.

[@stefannikola]

"He believed that there was a conspiracy of wealthy people who ruled the world." Um, that's not very far from the truth. Most of the wealth in the United States of America is in the hands of only a few hundred people. That's economic reality, not psychological delusion.

[@stefannikola]

@SHERYL KORNMAN - You’re right.

[@greablood1072]

And yet he goes for Lennon...

[@LosseB]

How could MDCs wife be cool with him ever travelling again knowing what he'd planned?

[@kayduncan8566]

She didnt actually think he was capable of murder.When she heard the news she thought, Mark has actually accomplished something that he set out to do.

[@mdaddy775]

She's still married to him! Believe it or not

[@PolevayaMysh]

She probably didn't believe he was serious.

[@jusk8lp]

Maybe he was awful to her and she let him do what he said he would do, so he would predictably get caught and go to prison and be physically out of her life.

[@nicholasjanke3476]

Frankly I've always considered both Chapman and his wife responsible for Lennon's death. I consider his wife an accessory. 1. He told his wife he would shoot Lennon and his wife never reported him. 2. His wife remains married to him and visits him in prison. 3. His wife tried to encourage Yoko Ono to forgive her husband! His wife was just as guilty! She belongs in jail also!!!

[@elke9499]

I shudder to think what he is like now in prison after all these years. What a tragedy. Thank you Doc.

[@manny4552]

He's hiding in protective custody

[@MsTammi125]

You have great content!

[@mollymollie6048]

I remember that night when we found out, I was a kid, but in a family of Beatles fans, including myself...I couldn’t believe it then...was stunned. I agree with you, Dr. Grande, that he should not be released. I’m appalled at the blatant ethical violations of some of the mental health professionals involved, but whether in prison, or a psychiatric facility...I agree with your assessment. Thank you for this video, excellent work, as usual.

[@BrainsApplied]

Ooooooooh, can we perhaps have some famous people that committed suicide? I don't know if that's interesting for people on here.

[@thatpointinlife]

He did one on Cobain not long ago.

[@Pixietoria]

He’s also discussed Robin Williams.

[@thatpointinlife]

@@Pixietoria, I keep hoping he'll do one on Bourdain.

[@h.borter5367]

@The Real Deal I know. Suicide hits too close to home for me. No thanks.

[@danieltarantino988]

Epstein

[@camuscat123]

As a mental health professional, this is terrifying and all too real. Imagine a client who believes a therapist is kind and sincere, yet, hours later follows the clinician and to murder that person. He is quite ill. He should never be released.

[@robinlavois4483]

Put the clients on court-ordered meds. Test their blood to ensure they're on the meds. It goes with the territory of your job to see those people and how many do you see that are worse than this guy yet they haven't gotten caught or else potentially are like this guy...Helloooo.....

[@arricammarques1955]

@@robinlavois4483 When the mentally ill access firearms innocent people die.

[@davidsoto4394]

Excellent video.