Beast Mode: Training With The World's Fastest Ski Erger

[@MarkLewisfitness]

I assumed length was everything. As seen in this video, there’s more to it than that. 😂

[@Clyde__Frog]

No, it's: Length times Girth over Angle of the Shaft (aka YAW) divided by mass over WIDTH.

[@zrgbrg]

I've learned that it's all about proper hip motions!

[@josephcorrente8484]

It’s all about motion in the ocean

[@discopot]

I love a dick joke

[@foldinghomealone]

@marklewisfitness Please make a feedback video how much improved your time after you're used to the new techniqe learnt by James

[@marcmartineau7858]

This is the BEST explanation of the SkiErg movement seen on the web no question. Nobody explained it like James Hall does here !

[@gremlin591002]

Training time with this guy was probably the most valuable thing you've gotten from being a KZbinr. Master class.

[@petergilbert7106]

Wow, James Hall is not only a beast, he's also a brilliant communicator. Great teacher.

[@Blabla123-u4f]

And a walking pharmancy imo. 😂😂😂

[@halley4032]

Another cracking tutorial, courtesy of James Hall. James conveys some brilliant insights into both Rowing/Skierging for sure. I had the same impression, initially, that the SkiErg stroke was all about length, when really - as with Rowing - it's all about the connection, and applying maximum power in that range, with the hip swing etc. Great content as always, many thanks :-)

[@CuriousCyclist]

James is a good coach.

[@jamieashton660]

Thanks Mark, I've been looking forward to this after watching the row video. Super useful and looking forward to trying that technique out.

[@robswan816]

That’s a fascinating watch Mark… the way you do it is - essentially - the way I’d always been taught: maximum travel distance of the handles = maximum power… … looking forward to trying this! James has such a good teaching style.

[@Pepesilvia267]

I think it depends. Like he said if you apply enough power in the pull to get the flywheel going super fast, then the tricep extension won’t really apply much force. I think most of us don’t apply a ton of power in the pull so the tricep extension still drives the wheel. Ie if the extension can drive a wheel at 200rpm but your pull got it up to 500rpm vs if your pull was only at 200.

[@SwindonRunner]

Managed an 18.7 on my 3rd go after watching this video aged 58. Quite pleased with that as I'm 5ft 9 and 175lbs. These guys are absolute units in comparison.

[@greybeard4034]

Unexpected collab, great video with the best skierg explanation om the internet.

[@gracey62uk]

It’s mad to think all the Hyrox demos and techniques I’ve seen before aren’t the most optimal. Makes so much sense to do it like this! Will have to give it a go 🙌🏼

[@MarkLewisfitness]

@@gracey62uk for Hyrox, this is even more important because it saves you over using your quads which you need for running.

[@Pepesilvia267]

Hyrox is all about efficiency in the demos IMO. When you set a world record you usually only do the 1 exercise. So technique from one doesn’t necessarily mean the same for the other. I do think saving your quads is important and this other technique does that well. I’m curious moreso on its affect on heart rate. If you toast HR in hyrox on the 1st exercise then anytime you save will be lost later. I didn’t see the other video so is this world record guy also a hyrox athlete? Also I assume weight of the athlete helps with power output on ski.

[@kopraljono3923]

@@Pepesilvia267I tried this technique yesterday at Hyrox. I wasn’t going for any PBs, but I was faster than most and required very little energy. It’s more efficient no matter how you look at it.

[@brendonsmith5029]

Only perfect practice makes perfect. Wow James is one hell of a coach.

[@parramaniac2642]

"med-ball slam" is a great analogy... my best 2K is a 7:40, but next time I will keep "med-ball slam" in my head while I'm doing it.

[@mortendahl3203]

This, and the previous video had a lot of great tips. You should try to do the “Ragde challenge”. Developed by a Norwegian long distance cross country skiing team by the same name. The challenge is 5k on a treadmill on 10% incline, straight to a 5k ski-erg and then 2k on the rowing machine.

[@rickchandler1305]

mostly cardio. Are they resistance training/weightlifting exercises that one can do?

[@theryanthomas]

Spent all video going "He kinda looks and sounds like Eddie Hall"... What a family 😅

[@pltrainingandnutrition]

This is a great explanation of the ski erg 👏🏻

[@TheHealthyTeacher]

The best time of the day is when we get a Mark Lewis upload!!!! Loving the journey mate.

[@choochoo9506]

Hi Mark, You actually caught on pretty quickly..must be hard to change like that. Good for you! Jen. (Little ol' lady from the USA) PS ) whipped out an early run this morning, 2 miles, didn't even breathe hard..LOVE IT! All thanks to you! "Just be above average".

[@stephengillen1129]

Brilliant. Saved on favourites for future reference

[@RobInglis-tn8gz]

If you could combine your race walk technique with your locomotion technique, the internet would go into meltdown

[@anitamaes5031]

I have the popcorn ready!

[@damienc.9970]

Top advise (forehand to relax @ hand in pocket- - thanks so much !

[@rougenoggin]

11:24 Something of relevance you didn't mention here is the stroke rate. James' was super high! You're right about loosing cable length per stroke, but the increased stroke rate makes up for it. I look forward to giving James' technique a go! 🙂

[@ansonstiles]

Awesome walk through. Recently started looking at Ski Erg and think it’s the next addition

[@rocksteady31]

super informative video! I’ve been struggling to get the hip motion down. I’m kind of squatting and putting strain in my knees, this thing is tough!!

[@seanm3933]

I'll be darned. I've been doing this sub optimally. Excellent turorial.

[@Chester16791]

Me too , always felt burnt out quads and triceps 😢

[@mikaelohlson5120]

What a humble person.

[@theJade]

"Use the thing...the force.". You're not a Jedi. 😂

[@MTkr19]

9:34 no matter how old, strong or record breaking men are, the silly jokes simply unite us

[@rhysmuscle2329]

It took me too long to connect the dots. I was listening to him and thought, "Why does he sound like Eddie Hall?" Then I saw the T-shirt. Haha.

[@Ken-t8k]

That was very good coaching.

[@foldinghomealone]

Why are the Halls so f... crazy? James looks like a smaller clone of his brother Eddie. Amazing family

[@iberiksoderblom]

Best info on that maschine ever!

[@bullsfan3705]

Great tutorial! Will definitely try that technique!

[@robturner724]

Such a useful video, I keep coming back to it 🙂

[@bobbybobman3073]

You know the more athletic things I see, hear of, and do the more I think wow form for nearly everything, is actually just physics in disguise.

[@halley4032]

Absolutely, it's ALL Newton's Laws really (Mechanics)

[@infocuslearning]

I suppose it also depends whether you just want to go as fast as possible, or exercise more muscles.

[@garycalvert5406]

Would you do claps over your head while you were cycling?

[@infocuslearning]

@@garycalvert5406 Strange question

[@texasjmd]

I only recently started using a Ski Erg. I’ve been wondering if I was doing it right. This is a very helpful video.

[@stevejones6026]

Great video, sure I have heard James say for efficiency the erg should be set at 6.5/7

[@nateswain4633]

Is this Eddie's brother?? Looks and sounds like him, and it's on that Beast merch! What a family!

[@kopraljono3923]

It is. Check out their video together on the rower.

[@EdSmyth]

Great video!

[@JohnSmith-zy1ur]

You picked it up super quick well done

[@JonCookeBridge]

The way James argues it is he has the world record!

[@DarrellAllen-t9z]

Great video has anyone told you that you sound like the guy who does “River monsters” when you do the voiceover

[@-Loki]

Great to see Eddie Hall's long lost brother. Keep the videos up! great work! 😂

[@dennismoore1116]

This makes good sense if you think about using ski poles. You wouldn't want poles over your head and push so far down. You would want it around shoulders and put your core into just like James Hall is showing here.

[@m.bird.]

Like standuppaddle

[@commuterbranchline8132]

‘It’s not the worst I’ve see’ 😂

[@AlisonAdventuring]

Great video and excellent tutorial! Less 🚂 and more channelling the inner Shakira 😄 I shall remember that

[@Eisenhammer78]

1:40 Nice Milwaukee Eight 114 in the back ❤️‍🔥 With that whole going as fast as possible, I have issues with that… Do you want to beat a timer or do you want to train your body as good as possible? I mean faster isn’t always better. In weightlifting or with bands you would deliberately slow down to maximize the time under tension and you would use the full range of motion. I mean if the goal is to beat somebody in a race, then go for it. But to me your old technique looked way better as a training then the fast and more sloppy method.

[@TheVampireSantiago]

Fully expecting the 5:02 clip to be used as much as duck pond is going forward

[@kopraljono3923]

I can’t believe no one else is catching onto this. James certainly reacted and I burst out laughing when I saw that.

[@Bjorn_R]

Well I be damned! I too thought that the goal was to get a long stretch to pull more on the rope. I will be trying this tomorrow

[@shandyooo]

This guy needs his own channel

[@carlhoward9527]

So understand that logic but is going fast the only purpose of the machine? Which of these techniques gives the most effective workout both in terms of muscle exercise and aerobic exercise?

[@JibbaJabber]

That Hyrox top spot is now just waiting for you Competition, watch out. #MarksLearning

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Well, I'm unable to "compete" at Hyrox.....but yes, I will be taking part soon!

[@carlhoward9527]

So I tried that this morning during a 5km effort. First 2k felt good using his recommended technique. But noticed it was no faster, if anything slightly slower. Comfortable to use because of the smaller range of motion but a slightly slower speed. Last 2km I ended up going back to longer strokes and actually sped up. Maybe it's best for shorter harder efforts.

[@An_Idiot_in_the_Wild]

Summary: all power via lats & hips in very short stroke. And bottom of stroke with elbows straightening isn't doing much more than pushing torso back upright ready for the next stroke.

[@Pepesilvia267]

Mark can you record you HR using your current technique for a 1k ski. Record it a few workouts to get an average HR. Then once you have the new technique dialed in do the same. I assume the time will be faster but I’m curious what the difference will be in HR. I think you will apply a lot more power but will also spike the HR.

[@nagasava8439]

Skierg is about your core, the one muscle that should be "sore" is abdominal muscles. Also is a bit easier if one of your legs is a 1or 2cm infront the other.

[@MyMd1111]

Thanks!!!!

[@matthewmason8982]

So this technique is good for smashing out a fast time, but is there a more ROM technique for just getting a good, full body aerobic workout?

[@County22]

10 years of using a Ski Erg the wrong way 😞 Interested to see what this method looks like on the PM5 power curve. I imagine it will match the bell shape curve you get on a rower - which makes complete sense.

[@evullo]

Brilliant video. Is this technique also suitable for more endurance distances greater than 10km?

[@Pepesilvia267]

I doubt it but I have no experience at all to say it. This feels like a technique for max power output like sprinting. You run slightly differently for a 10k than a 1k so I think this technique might be harder to do for 10k without putting you in zone 5 the whole time. I’d love it if someone tried it so we can see how the two affect HR for a medium distance ski

[@hobbyrider3795]

Watch the guy that does the marathon ski. Very similiar technique with short sharp pulls rather than long drawn out ones.

[@Alfie1970Waterhouse]

Thanks. Great.

[@Magnificent729]

If you were cross country skiing… your technique is pretty good!! Which is what the machine is designed to emulate. You’d beat him over a distance on skis… if you can also stay upright 😂

[@jon7939]

I can see you winning another medal next to a duck pond before too long.

[@51_Degrees_Design]

Amazing such great detail. Next up Bike Erg…?

[@ACs946]

T-Rex goes choo choo

[@SpookyMindz]

I have never really tried distance in a certain time but ive reaced 3600kcal/hour on the skierg with the resistance on 10.

[@TimothyPearse]

Thank you that was interesting. I'm nowhere near as tall as you but I also tend to try to maximise length of stroke and catch way too high. One question - should there be any adaptation for a Hyrox event where obviously we are not sprinting at 100m, 1km or even 2km pace (unless over excited of course). I've noticed the elites tend to have a slow cadence but really rip it, I guess the key is to still use the bigger muscle groups with efficient technique

[@armwrestlingstore]

Love this advice

[@thisisspartacus]

Isn’t this only good for sprinting? Would you still apply that range of motion or cadence to a 10 or 20 minute time domain on the ski?

[@glennkeppel9836]

My daughter once said to me "you're Not As Shit As I thought you'd be" when I took up on water rowing. So James just said you're NASA (7.04), Mark.

[@kingofkidz]

How's your ski now Mark, have you dialled in the tekkers since filming and have your times improved?

[@Twistsquishbang]

A lot of biomechanics here he uses a lot of his upper body weight too, hence the little tiptoe jump at the top of his stroke, very compact stroke very interesting

[@roddymclauchlan1982]

As a biathlete and cross country skier, I can say this is one of the better examples of using the skiErg. We use the the skierg like we were on our skis / roller skis. There are a couple of points here that id add, but otherwise a good explanation from James Hall

[@rickovanti982]

How far off his world record are you?

[@rickchandler1305]

@@rickovanti982 It's a machine, not real cross-country skiing. They don't compare. And there's no rifle.

[@diametheuslambda]

Were this business, the warning against letting the metric become the goal would apply. The now typical skierg movement is already different than how the instrument was intended to be used, and this moves the goal further still. Eh, at least it's still safer and more useful than the Crossfit pull-up.

[@tobiasstohr1866]

Top double polers use the same technique.

[@Sundain]

One important thing that makes it easier to not bend the knees too much is to focus on activating the core when going down. On a another note it would be facinating to see him try cross-country skiing (the ski-erg is based on one of the techinques in cross-country skiing) the only problem is that you need plenty of snow for that😅

[@jimjamthebananaman1]

He wouldn’t survive cross country skiing. He’s too heavy which the ski erg favours.

[@Sundain]

@@jimjamthebananaman1 That's true, it would probably be hard to find skis that are stiff enough. He would get super good grip though :P

[@m.bird.]

Do these translate to real life? Actual xc skiing and rowing? Its harder (and more fun) to be moving in nature.

[@ulrichaksamski8917]

I wanna see them in a skiff and still as nature boy in the snow

[@navarone4031]

the turbomanlet power is strong

[@crystalhart1718]

What damper setting are you using on each machine when going for a record?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Around 6-8

[@andrewtabner3761]

Are we gonna see an update on you 100m split in a few weeks?

[@MrErlendw]

I guess it all comes down to what you are training for. If you primarily use the SkiErg to prepare for the x-country skiing season, it seems that a combination of the two is the way to go (as demonstrated here by former world champion and olympic champion Anders Aukland): kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIrcoJiHgrV-ocksi=-ZdFydQCJQxSRYdb

[@ay2deet578]

"You're not truly connected with yourself"

[@mcplatinum187]

Different strokes for different folks as they say

[@GwilymJames]

The hall family genetics is amazing. 🧬

[@willheffernan]

You get a 'subscribe' just based on the content of this video. Thank you.

[@Sean_A999]

He had to add weights because he's all but jumping off the platform. So he's pulling down with bodyweight, which would be the max possible. Flat footed means weight is being left on the ground.

[@StewartBell-im8qg]

Before my brain tumour , my 500m row was 1:20.6,

[@francescosaturnino113]

Interesting that the ski erg is much slower than actual double pole skiing.

[@foolishyish]

Oh shit is this eddie halls brother😂

[@luisfernandes2522]

So it's confirmed that size isn't everything 😂

[@MattWatson-qx5th]

I find that sometimes this can hurt my lower back doing that movement

[@kpsig]

I was doing the exact opposite!

[@BestKiteboardingOfficial]

James has weight on his side to produce force.

[@kopraljono3923]

Utilizing weight (even if less than his) and your centre of gravity will be more powerful for anyone than simply pulling down with the arms.

[@heardyy4067]

Everytime he speaks all I see is Eddie hall 😂

[@palleppalsson]

Comments full of skiers talking about real life and how you're doing it wrong.😂

[@JonCookeBridge]

So James has the mid distance world record, and his brother, Eddie, has the sprint record, no?

[@danjones9999]

The nicer of the two brothers

[@lerekt7818]

bro has injected so much trt he doesnt need to drink water no more

[@JuanaLove6931]

New at ski erg. I feel it mostly in my bootie and lats. Legs don't get tired. Do you think I'm on the right path???? I am a tallish gal but I find I'm on my toes initially and I throw my weight down and it wears out my bootie 1st. Lats feel super pumped later.. I don't have stanima but apparently have dominant fast muscle twitch. I really enjoy this erg!!❤

[@scarred10]

Theres no glutes in the erg at all