Found Out Husband Is Cheating, Judge Ordered Reconciliation Order r/Relationships

[@manxiefeathermoon9888]

Th reconciliation period could be dangerous. An abuse victim trying to leave and the abuser wants to reconcile. The victim could be killed during that period

[@mk_gamíng0609]

Sadly in Religious countries where women are seen as property, they do not care.

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

This is an Islamic country operating on Islamic religious law. Do you really think they care?

[@Kaasha19]

​@Malacophile The judge that ordered the reconciliation was in OP's home country, not the islamic one. The islamic country probably would have jailed the exhusband if the AP's husband filed a complaint.

[@SakuraMoonflower]

But the courts care more about MARRIAGE than saving lives. 💀

[@brookelynnwu8016]

Once again, courts failing to protect the vulnerable, as if they ever cared.

[@itazuranakisu]

My petty self would be sending a nicely worded letter of “told you so” to the original judge including that the ex wanted it over to marry someone else. Let that judge swallow that timeline. When it comes to cheating and ab&se of any kind (not just physical) there shouldn’t be a reconciliation period.

[@musamaka9848]

Reconciliation periods shouldn't exist period. A judge shouldn't have the fucking right to force you to stay married when you don't want to be, no matter what the reason is

[@pansprayers]

Sending that letter can and will get you thrown in prison for years in certain countries. Sometimes reacting with baser/childish emotion comes with actual consequences.

[@pansprayers]

@@musamaka9848 while I agree with you that being miserable in a marriage is an absolute dumpster fire that no one should have to contend with, you need to understand that this crap happens every single day, in almost every single country (where divorce is legal) yes, even parts of the US where ecclesiastical marriage contracts are recognised as valid. Christians have Covanent Marriages, Jews have Getts for divorce - it's not limited to one Abrahemic belief system. Getting divorced if you're under 18 and had a parental signature to marry is a freaking nightmare, because Family Law Attorneys are both expensive and hesitant to tackle such cases. If you want to do something about it, then actually petition your LAWMAKERS to fix it.

[@musamaka9848]

@@pansprayers I never said it was limited to one system it shouldn't be allowed anywhere on earth

[@mflax4331]

@@musamaka9848 It can turn a bit crazy. My marriage was in front of a judge because my wife had asked for it in the first place. (Nothing problematic just those "differences".) Well, I did not start it (would never have started it), but I'm a bit crazy myself - if somebody starts a fight with me, I'm going to end it. The judge asked us if we really wanted a divorce (I guess he was out trying to mend the situation - which I find odd after all the time and procedings to get there in the first place). I said yes, but she didn't answer first. Her lawyer requested a time-out and afterwards she wanted a divorce too. I was more like: ROTFLOL. In my understanding NO reconciliation period is needed in our "modern" states. There is so much time spend before you arrive in front of a judge, that there was already time to do that. No need to repeat that again. Both sides know exactly what they want and if there would any chance of that or not.

[@miaposamarie226]

This is just a side note; Never. EVER. Ever ever ever marry someone and go to a country where you have no human rights. The amount of women who naively walk into places like Dubai expecting to have equal rights under the law is too astoundingly high. Almost darwin award level. Marry and try to live somewhere where you actually have human rights.

[@Equinyx666]

fucking preach.

[@keythealien]

I'm pretty sure OP is natively from that area seeing as she mentioned she went BACK to get a job at her old company in Dubai. Maybe it's a 'murica thing, but most people don't even want to go to the ME or Islamic countries even for holidays. You know, now that I've said it out loud, it's probably an American thing. We're always told those places are a death sentence as foreigners, and especially for women, but most of it's racist and xenophobic rhetoric. Hard conditioning to break, though, and I know I have no desire to go out there myself. I think you've got a point, too, that many people will just plan to move to a foreign country and assume everything will be up to expectation without doing any research on the socio-political environment seeing as I personally know a person or two who moved without even looking at how high housing costs in their new location were. Impulsivity at it's finest.

[@miaposamarie226]

@@keythealien nope. She isnt from Dubai she is from somewhere else. Dubai isnt her country of origin it seems like she was just there for work. I knew someone was eventually going to claim racism. Look; not everyone from those countries are dangerous but the laws sure are. Women bearly have human right in Dubai, it certainly is better than other places, but there has been several cases where foreign women get r*ped and the legal system arrests them instead of the ra***st. Not to mention if you're gay, yeah Dubai and countries in that region are literally deadly. You will get arrested and in some countries, executed. Of their legal codes and legal system enforce these ideas they are inherently dangerous, especially if you're from a demographic that is the lest protected. If you want to go there, fine. But research their laws and always always make sure you "cover your assh**" against any nefarious lawsuits.

[@TiffWaffles]

@@keythealien I've wanted to leave my country of birth since I was a young teenager and was supposed to do so (to a European country) after I was done university when COVID hit and made that impossible. I guarantee you that I have done extensive research into the country I did plan on moving to, and was looking forward to the move because of how much I actively hate my birth country. However, it always amazes me to hear stories of how many people just jump into making a move without any plan, without doing any kind of research... and oftentimes they don't even have a place to live and are virtually homeless when they make the move. I know somebody who did this and things did not go as well as they thought it would. It actually led to them getting arrested by the country they went into and promptly blacklisted from entering that country and its overseas territory before being deported. However, this person tried marrying a national to remain in the country- so maybe that's why they were treated so harshly.

[@Lunavera22]

UAE is hardly Islamic. They don't follow Islam anymore. It's under sharia law which means the punishment for adultery is public execution NOT jail time. They aren't following Islam.

[@despinasgarden.4100]

I was laughting so hard when i heard the ex wanted to terminate the marriage so he could get married again, i want to see the first judge's face when they find out about it. What kind of BS is reconciliation period?

[@DePhoegonIsle]

It's meant to give a forced period to cool heads, and sort though facts, lies, & misunderstandings. I feel bad for real cases where.... ya just have bad actors being fucking shitlords to their SO, but as often one party has been manipulated & lied to by someone else or mistook x or y events as cheating... and it has been able to reverse failing relationships giving the time to sort out reality from fiction and have conciling as an aid as well. OP Ex was.... Just a wtf ...

[@streamerssaymyname]

@@DePhoegonIsle I had a friend whose husband would do this, even not show up to court to have them delay furthering the divorce decision. He did this for years until the judge was finally tired of him and finally granted her freedom from him. Making divorce harder just makes it harder for the wronged party.

[@musamaka9848]

@@streamerssaymyname exactly that's why its such a bullshit concept

[@lonelyronin2428]

I would have fought the reconcilliation period somehow. You want me to have the shit around me longer than neccessary?? Hell no!!! Idgaf what yoyr beliefs are, you cheat, Im done, you're gone. Cheatig, lying, whiny, narcissistic, manipulative dumbasses have no place in the live a law abiding, kind person who did nothing wrong.

[@Someone-or8tp]

"Ah, yes. You are both grown adults but because MY religion says that divorce is wrong, despite you being adults that can make your own decisions I am going to take that right from one or both of you and force you to stay together because *I* said so!"

[@ShatoraDragondore]

Reconciliation is just a way to trap spouses with their abuser. Just because the judges religious texts say divorce is a sin, or the gender of the spouce trying to leave is still seen a property and not a person.

[@kiryuandgodzillagirl]

I had to ask "Is that a joke????!!!!"

[@pansprayers]

The judge's own religion text has nothing to do with it. The judge has to follow the law, regardless of personal conviction - for better or worse.

[@scrotuspotus6632]

it's almost like islam is a religion of rape and abuse that indoctrinates women into their own abuse.

[@jortoska]

@@scrotuspotus6632 well most religions are. Christians to, just a lot of them don't follow the Bible. But the Bible is also just a book full of sexism and abuse

[@bunnyslippers191]

@@scrotuspotus6632 They were living in the UAE, but went back to their own country, which is *not* a Muslim country. The ex husband wanted to get out of the UAE because if the affair partner's husband filed a complaint against him in the UAE he could wind up in prison for committing adultery. He wanted to go back to their home country to avoid that, so it's pretty clear that their home country isn't a Muslim country. It was a judge in a non Muslim country who ordered the period of reconciliation.

[@Triloking]

So, he was seeing 3 women at the same time, the 38 years old affair partner, and the new one he married, because it looks like he didn't have to wait for the new spouse.

[@streamerssaymyname]

Or if he is from a country where arranged marriages are common, his family probably found him a new young bride.

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

3 women at the same time, at 38 years old, with a full-time job? I don't know how so many people have the energy to keep up with multiple partners, while keeping it a secret, let alone at nearly 40 and with a demanding job. For me, the very idea of trying to maintain a relationship with my boyfriend _and_ another man while trying to keep one or both from finding out just sounds f*cking exhausting. Even if I didn't value my relationship and have deep moral objections to cheating, I still couldn't do it.

[@BersealiaDreamheart]

Wow, OP’s ex is a real piece of work to get mad over a Reddit KZbin video and threaten to sue to take it down. Glad that lawyer shut him down and there’s nothing the ex can do about the post or these videos.

[@greyscalesx]

He also doesn't know how defamation works. If nothing she said is a lie, there is no defamation

[@marshawargo7238]

Also Funny how, when he wanted the reconciliation he said "I'll wait as long as it takes for you to come back to me" hehehe hahaha!!! He couldn't even wait long enough for a divorce to get his hotdog into a different bun!!! This Guy doesn't know the definition of Wait or Monogamy or Marriage either! (Line Up 👯👯👯 Ladies! He's Available! Maybe he's single Maybe he's not but he Is Available) He's Not A Prize!!!

[@ComaLies225]

SHOUT OUT TO LOST GENRE FOR THE NAME DROP. Holllaaaaaaaa. It's absolutely abysmal that judges have the power to order reconciliations.

[@AndyyWithAY]

I would have denied ex's request to remarry. He drug this out to begin with. I would've made him wait to get remarried. I'm petty and would've taken that revenge

[@AKASANJEEWA]

But that shows OP as trying to reconcile and dragged the process even further. Since she's not trying to take revenge this is the best for her i suppose

[@pansprayers]

That would have nullified the whole process. Sometimes getting the hell out trumps petty.

[@SH-qs7ee]

I would have thought about doing that too, but the potential satisfaction wouldn't be worth it.

[@Tammohawk1]

I heard this on Lost Genre prior to this. Funny how stuff gets around when you behave badly isn't it? Should be a warning to anyone wanting to do something that they shouldn't do. Mark, talk to L.G. OP emailed him about this story. Maybe he will share with you more. I've never heard of a reconciliation period ever in the US.

[@ShatoraDragondore]

My Moms Abusive ex tried to get one. The Restraining Order he violated several times shut that shit down fast. He still made it drag out for a year longer then it should have.

[@dianeessex300]

I'm in the US also, and we have a "cooling off" period, but only if the couple has minor kids together. I live in a no fault state, so it's very hard to contest a divorce petition.

[@TiffWaffles]

This happened in a Islamic country where the laws are a trifle different there. I've heard from some of my friends that there is some sort of law that does force reconciliation on people intending to divorce... and it's just not in one country but numerous. I think even Israel might have similar laws, but I can't remember and would have to ask one of my Israelis friends about this.

[@cheekyftoro8962]

America has a 1 year reconsiliation period they just call it a seperation period.

[@cheekyftoro8962]

​@@TiffWaffles most countries have a period of time you must either be separated or a amount of time you must wait between filing for a divorce and it being granted. It's just called different names. Australia the USA UK Canada India all have some form of wait time required before a divorce is finalised

[@Zaddy-Lu]

I had a judge order that we couldn't divorce until we each went through a bunch of (multi-week) classes. Judges can take very fascinating liberties with the law in some places.

[@AndyyWithAY]

I'm so glad that the husband got these consequences. Go full no contact with his parents. They are also toxic. This is what husband and AP deserves. Do not reconcile. Absolutely do not reconcile

[@sarahkirchner6356]

I think court-ordered reconciliations can become quite dangerous. What if one of the spouses really doesn't want to be married anymore and starts to think, welp if I can't get divorced, I will make myself a widow/ widower?

[@MythicalHex]

story prompt

[@Snowshowslow]

Or an abusive partner...

[@SH-qs7ee]

I'm certain that if there's a history of abuse, the judge takes that into account. Also, there's not much stopping an abusive partner from taking their revenge even once the divorce goes through.

[@pansprayers]

Happens in countries like the Philippines, sadly. Divorce isn't legal. You can get all the restraining orders you want, but that's for life, on way or another. Even moving to obtain one can throw up barriers that can drag on for decades due to the jurisdiction issues involved.

[@TiffWaffles]

And since OP and her husband were living in a Muslim country that adheres to Islamic law, OP's husband could have committed an honour killing. To be clear, I believe that the UAE where I think OP says she's from or at least works has very strict laws against honour killings, but that doesn't stop certain people who are conservative Muslims from ignoring those laws and committing those killings, especially if they feel like they are being dishonoured. A woman filing for divorce in many Muslim countries are often victims of honour killings, but many of these countries often take harsh action against those that commit such atrocities because of shifting viewpoints. It's hard to gauge what stance the UAE takes in this since I feel like they are very secretive in comparison to Pakistan or even Saudi Arabia who have outright condemned honour killings of any kind.

[@Jenizus]

I would be in so much hell if a judge court ordered reconciliation with my ex. What a toxic af situation to be in...

[@tintinismybelgian]

I can only imagine a few scenarios where an order of reconciliation _might_ be appropriate, and this is not one of them.

[@pansprayers]

In the Philippines, divorce isn't even legal. The standard for divorce looks exactly like this in MANY countries where religion mixes with civil law.

[@carolroberts4614]

I'd have been bouncing off the walls if that had happened to me! I would be so angry 😠

[@Konachn4ever]

@@carolroberts4614 Right!? OP said where she's from it's supposed to be punishable by time to cheat so how the *BUCK* is the Judge gonna make then try to reconcile when he's *SUPPOSED* to send him to bucking *JAIL* , that Judge needs to recuse himself~!😡

[@musamaka9848]

@@Konachn4ever right! How much do you wanna bet that the judge is a cheater too? Assholes defend Assholes

[@myownsidekick]

I would blatantly said "do not contact me in any way other than through me lawyer" in court so it's on official record then have my lawyer send hin a cease and desist if he called me, giving me grounds to persue a order of protection if he tries again. Boom, there goes that 6 months sans husband.

[@TiffWaffles]

Not sure if OP could do this? The laws are unclear as I am not sure what Islamic country she left, but making the assumption that this is the UAE which practices Sharia law (I think?), telling a judge or saying to her husband 'do not contact me in any other way outside of a lawyer' might be prohibited. Just because your idea works in the United States doesn't mean it's the way in other countries.

[@myownsidekick]

@@TiffWaffles They got divorced in the us. Op mentions flying back to the us the day she blew the husbands cover, and he had to leave very shortly after that to avoid being arrested.

[@dianeessex300]

In my part of the USA, a judge can order a "cooling off period", typically involving couples with kids. The idea being, if they don't reconcile, it at least won't be as ugly, for the sake of the kids.

[@damien678]

I honestly do like that approach where it's needed

[@gostavoadolfos2023]

They can also force a husband to pay child support of the cheating wife affair baby under the pretext of what is best for the kid 😮

[@dianeessex300]

I think that's BS. There's a special place in Hell for women who lie about their kid's paternity.

[@sabrinahinton1774]

I'm glad I wasn't in your part of the U.S. I had 3 kids under 9 and my lawyer got me a divorce in 6 months.

[@RockinTheBassGuitar]

A reconciliation period is simply a time frame to make sure thst the offended partner isn't going to change their mind in a couple months. There is no obligation on them to see, talk to, or evebm try to reconcile. And in most modern countries, there is no penalty for not trying.

[@Norinia]

Maybe, but it also gives too much time for the offender partner to screw the other over, gives them time to try to scam the entire house from them, or drain the bank accounts to zero because they are joint. Also gives time to use intimidation tactics like leaving dead animals on their soon to be ex’s porch, leave nasty messages, or god forbid, break in and harm them. There is no benefit to the partner who has been massively harmed already by the disgusting cheater. Thus, they shouldn’t be forced to stay in a marriage where nothing but worse things can happen to them.

[@Equinyx666]

"in most modern countries" ---- can't say I would consider islamic (religious countries of any kind, tbh) countries "modern"

[@pansprayers]

@@Equinyx666 since you want to bag on a specific Abrahemic based country, and show just how clueless (and frankly biased an b*goted you are) let's go there. The US and the UK have also long recognized religious contract marriages, so here we are. Yes, even in the United States, if you sign a Covanent Marriage contact, you can and will be forced to abide by that documentation and the terms of divorce. Some of the most terrifying ones I've seen stipulated that even if your spouse beats you, assaults you, and cheats on you, you have to be in Christian based marriage therapy TOGETHER for two to five years. Anna and Josh Duggar have one of these that she signed without his past behaviour being fully disclosed to her. SO, even though HE'S likely going to be in prison for a long f*cking time, she can't even file for that separation to BEGIN without him being out of a cell. Failure to abide by that contract could easily see her lose everything, including her children to her in-laws, because those contracts hold up in court, just like an iron clad prenup. So, you're right, the US isn't civilized, either, by your definition, and it has nothing to do with your dog whistles.

[@charimonfanboy]

@@pansprayers So... civil laws based on/influenced by religious doctrine bad? Almost as if one can say that countries with state religions that screw with the legal system don't deserve to be called 'modern'?

[@krn2683]

@@pansprayers there's only 3 states that recognize covenant marriage contracts: Arizona, Alabama, and Louisiana. Alabama and Louisiana rank 47th and 50th respectively in education and have a huge backwater fundamentalist population. It's not a country wide law. Hell, you can't even put behavioral clauses in pre-nups here in KS and we're not exactly known as a progressive hotspot.

[@pansprayers]

Ah, yes. This is what divorce looks like (if even possible) when one lives in a country that mixes religion with civil law. Way more common than those who live in countries where divorce is pretty easy to obtain realize.

[@dulcilass]

Civil divorce can be easy in the US, but there are religious groups here who also require a religious divorce as well. Been there, done that and married once but divorced twice.

[@pansprayers]

@@dulcilass yup, Covanent (a pretty abusive patriarchal biased Christian version) Marriages are absolutely a thing in the US (completely terrifying, and a recent, rather infamous star of 19 Kids and Counting who just got sentenced has one), as is obtaining a Gett. Anyone who screams, 'just get a divorce' thinking it's that simple doesn't have the first clue.

[@TiffWaffles]

Yeah, but divorce was difficult to obtain in western countries where they don't allow religion to mix with the law until rather recently (think early 2000s to 2010s). I live in a country that doesn't mix religion with law (or government, for that matter), and divorce was difficult to obtain unless you could prove abuse. My mother's divorce proceedings went on for nearly a decade because my bio dad didn't want to pay child support AND moved around constantly... not only that but bio dad was Indigenous where they had their own way of doing things. My mother went through hell and had to live in a common law relationship with my stepfather even though the two wanted to marry.

[@dulcilass]

@@TiffWaffles A religious divorce can be more difficult to obtain than a civil divorce, but unless you are really concerned about the religious aspect the civil divorce is more important. I got my civil divorce first which was required by my religious community, and then was granted my religious divorce with no problems. But a number of people get their civil divorce which covers alimony, child support, etc. and never get a religious one. The civil court has no concern as to whether a couple follows through with a religious divorce, they don't even ask about whether the couple is getting one. Once a couple has a civil divorce they can remarry as they will. The civil license simply asks if you've been married before according to civil law. If you reply "Yes" then the question of "Did you get a divorce? is asked." A simple yes or no is required. But they are questioning about a civil divorce, not a religious. The state doesn't care if a person is following any sort of religious practice which might have it's own divorce procedures.

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

Religion is mixed in almost any country's government/law, lol. Also in western countries. In the Netherlands they want to make it seem like state and religion isn't mixed either, but look at the amount of religious parties in our government. Or at COVID laws, where the church was the only exception to any COVID restrictions - because it was stated in the ground laws that everyone should be able to preach religion no matter how many got sick from it. Look at the US, where basic human (women) rights for abortion are less important than religion believes, or where LGBT rights keep being on thin line cuz of believes. Other people also mentioned reconciliation exists in the US too, in form of cooling off period. People in western countries like to believe that their country is so much better cuz they live in "freedom", but it's not. Those believes are still in the governments and laws, only they are better at hiding it (or found ways to get away with it). I do think the world would be a lot fairer for everyone if believes were kept out of the government or laws.

[@TsukiKageTora]

I love how Mark is probably the only reddit KZbinr that asked for permission to read a story that the OP posts on a public forum.

[@TheLugiaSong]

I've heard you have to get a judge's permission to divorce, but I had thought it was a matter of formality. I cannot believe the judge can just be like "Yeah no, you can't divorce." that's just bonkers!

[@buffysheffield1328]

I caught this on that other channel, but I prefer this channel. Love your insights and it always makes my day when you laugh and sing. Cheers from across the pond! Rock on!

[@yef122]

I enjoyed hearing this story again for a 2nd time. (I listen to Lost Genre's channel too). These two are among my favorite youtubers who read reddit stories 😄🧇🧇🧇🧇🧇

[@channonnicole8229]

Same

[@fionamacro7795]

Markee is also very good.

[@Sakuraqueen]

Same here! The best are Mark, lost genre and Markee! I just love Mark's voice, especially when he gets offended and rants! 🤣🤣🤣 Or when he laughs between reading.

[@missingbobsburgers]

Yup. I’ve got 4/5 I listen to and they are definitely in the mix

[@naomiwhy2191]

@@Sakuraqueen my favourite three! 👍👍👍

[@VirginiaSunrise11]

Yes, here in the USA some states have a required separation period to allow for possible reconciliation. Which for some people I understand but when there is abuse involved it isn’t reasonable

[@browhattheactualfu-2659]

First time I heard about the reconciliation thing but if it ain't the biggest amount of bull. So many situations can turn sour with a thing like this!

[@Silence-1170]

Wishing all you waffles well, just watching boat videos with Grandpa. He enjoys watching those and car auction videos. :)

[@WobblesandBean]

That sounds sweet 💜 Thanks for the well wishes, I threw my back out yesterday and had a Statistics exam today, so I'm not doing great 😅

[@Silence-1170]

@@WobblesandBean oof hope you get better and that the exam went well.

[@edwardbickford8277]

Thanks. Enjoy your time with Grandpa. It sounds like you're both doing well. 🙂

[@Silence-1170]

@@edwardbickford8277 I am. And he's doing as well as he can.

[@abarnes7228]

Sounds like a good time. Bonds like that are I breakable cherish them and heyyy Grandpa 👋🏽 .

[@Konachn4ever]

10:27 Yeah it'd make me livid I'd tell that POS Judge that he needs to BUCKING recuse himself if he's gonna bucking grant reconciliation to a cheater even though cheating there is supposed to be punishable by time also he didn't just sleep with another man's wife it was his colleague he slept with too~!!😡

[@WhiteRoseNeko]

I've listened to 3 people tell this story now and it was actually from listening to Lost Genre that I wound up here (along with RSlash and Markee, our aussie hubby lol) You guys are the reason I have this addiction! Thank you

[@tiffanyhaddox7499]

A judge tried something like that in my baby sister with her abusive now ex-husband. She had to refile and get a different judge to get her divorce.

[@IrisAsuras]

I listen to this channel and Lost Genre. In fact, I listen to four reddit readers on a regular basis because I really like how they read, even if some stories are the same.

[@kacey261]

It's been almost 20 years since my divorce. It was in a no-fault state. After the initial court date there was a mandatory 6 month waiting period before the divorce became final. During this time there were temporary order in place (financial restraints so that neither party could clear out joint assets or run up debt in the other's name, preliminary custody agreement, child support). All personal financial information had to be disclosed to the court (assets, income, expenses). Also, if there are minor children involved, both parties had to complete a court approved co-parenting course (I think it was 8 hours total, could be done in one day or in shorter sessions); it was pretty basic information, like not trying to alienate the other parent; child support and custody were separate issues - so don't withhold visitation for non payment of support, and don't stop paying support if custody plan is not being followed, etc. There could be interim court proceedings for issues that come up but the paperwork couldn't be officially completed for that 6 month period. After filing the final order, it became official after 90 days. During that 90 day period either party could contest particular terms (like if you find out ex was hiding income or something like that). After the 90 days you couldn't appeal to change anything expect for review of child support or custody.

[@AndyyWithAY]

There is something wrong with the AP in story 1. It's insane that a 38yr old married mother wants a 25yr old who is also married.

[@AppleStrawberryLove]

Nah. It's not that strange. It feeds into her feeling desirable and attractive. Doesn't matter that she's "past her prime" or that she's had a kid (which changes your body). She's still attractive enough to get a young man. No, she's still hot enough to get him to break his marriage vows.

[@UzumakiDonnoHinata]

Oh hi, Mark! I'm stressed af. Been trying to get my heart rate under 120 for about 3 hours. It's not working lol. Much love!

[@Romania2468]

Getting ready for work rn hope you have a good day Mark ‼️

[@kimberleyg4657]

I'm a huge Lost Genre fan. Good you tube channel. I like the cute way he says smiley face when there a smiley face emoji.

[@brandyb2931]

So I have a friend who lost the love of her life 15 years ago when he was hit by a car. She spent many years in and out of relationships she would rush into where she would see glimpses of the man she lost as she was trying to fill a hole her deceased husband left that could never be filled. She married 1 of them after 2 weeks and wound up filing for divorce around a year later because the fake shine he put up in the beginning tarnished quickly, and he was very mentally unstable and abusive. She also found that at this time, he has a behavior of stalking exes and did prison time for kidnapping and stabbing someone. After she filed for divorce, a judge put a reconciliation order in place because her ex had asked for one. He court ordered marital counseling, so she had to. Within this period, she wound up having to get a restraining order against him, and he threatened to shoot her in front of her son (whose father was the husband who died) and then kill himself. I don't even want to get into the police and their lack of assistance in enforcing this court order until he came to her 85yo grandmother's home looking for her and shoved his way into her home. It finally ended when he showed up around 2am on mothers day and rammed his truck into the ramp walkway that was built into her porch, she woke up in terror thinking this was it, she screamed for her son to hide. Her ex ran onto the porch screaming her name and other things she couldn't make out, as she screamed for him to please go away he stuck his face in the window of her front door and then blew his brains out right in front of her. I do not think judges should be able to force women or men to reconcile with someone whom they no longer wish to be with. Especially when this person is dangerous.

[@BraveryWing26]

I loved this OP. She's awesome and takes zero bullshit. This was a great story.

[@KarmikCykle]

I found Mark's channel thanks to recommendations after watching Lost Genre's channel, so I got a good chuckle out of that unintended bit of crossover.

[@MADMadisson]

Even if I listen to the stories in other channels I like hearing your opinions, so worth the watch.

[@ryderlisa1]

sooo much respect for any womam who could descover this while that guy is sleeping next to u and not pick up a side table lamp.

[@rotmuscaria]

There are states in the USA where you have to file for a Separation and maintain that for a year (maybe more?) In order to get divorced. I think there's another where you can't get divorced without approval from both parties, so one spouse can just hold that on you for forever.

[@gusanasart1061]

Just like a judge can order a 6 month period of reonciliation, there should a mandatory period of relationship before you can get married.

[@keninam3305]

That is the case in many places. California has a 6 month "cooling off" period (aka reconciliation period) before a divorce can be granted. And another 6 month waiting period before you can marry someone else again

[@WobblesandBean]

OP 1: Take a photo of the entire chat (I think Whatsapp announces if you take a screenshot) and send it to this woman's husband. And screw that judge! Wow! Edit: Oh no, your husband and his AP could go to jail. How awful. 😂

[@Alteusgirl]

whatsapp doesnt announce it at all. it's snapchat that does this ;)

[@WobblesandBean]

@@Alteusgirl Ah. I blame my old person incompetence with technology (I'm only 38, but I'll take any excuse I can get lol)

[@joaolima7131]

@@Alteusgirl it's said that whatsapp will receive an update about this, I honestly don't like this feature

[@Alteusgirl]

@@joaolima7131 yeah while i understand that it happens on snapchat because people share pics that will disappear so they should know if someone's screens it and all that but for whatsapp this could be dangerous when gathering proofs for something.

[@gretchenmyers1279]

some US states require a 1 year separation before a divorce will be granted

[@laica01]

I think that LG channel just had the first update, I don't remember hearing the about the reconciliation period there. so for me it had two huge updates, so is good. about the reconciliation period, yes, I have heard about it, but mostly is when there are children involve.

[@louellacharlton4425]

i too watched on Lost Genre. Tyvm Mark.. Stay safe please. PEACE

[@madisonl3401]

Hope Poppy and your cat are doing well! Have a wonderful day Mark!

[@Captain.Basketcase]

I got divorced like 7 years ago... and if i had of gotten married 2 months after i did there would have been a mandatory reconciliation period... but i was like f this s... I'm out... done with his abuse I'm not able to keep it up anymore so he decided to kick me out of my house and i left cuz i was scared of him... and now I'm mentally in a better place and found someone who treats me with respect and kindness. The cptsd is obviously still a thing i have to deal with (and i got let go from my old job until i got over my cptsd... like seriously.... ugh) but my current partner is so patient and kind and we help lift each other up and respect each other... now i help other people in toxic relationships and now to get out of them

[@lewischase]

Good evening Mark Happy Hump Day everyone

[@1tiptip187]

I remember lost Genre reading it LOL Husband should know that if he recognizes his cheating story on an anonymously written story he has issues.

[@sigisig3941]

Oh in germany we got something like that too calle a "Trennungs Jahr" year of separation (google translate no clue if this is the english term) , were couples need to "prove" that there separatet for more then a year. When the divorece is both sides they mostley can "lie" so it is all easy, if not they need to wait a year (or that is how I get it, I am no expert here) or if the relastionship is abusive there is the possibility for a "Härtefall Scheidung" hardship divorce (google translate no clue if this is the english term), to get a divorce as fast as possible (but I don't know if cheating is in there).

[@itjustmemanning8441]

I hope op finds love and has happy life.

[@moimeself1088]

Rewatching this vid and remembering when Mark was working towards 20k so he could go part time at his "real" job. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 well done, Mark!

[@Love2Banime]

Listened to this with my mom. She gave facts that laws in Dubai is severely observant and shared a very scary story from a KZbinr she watches that shared her story of her friend that almost got arrested in Dubai.

[@owl7072]

Look at Lost Genre getting an indirect shout out 💅🏻 I knew I recognized this story from somewhere lol Anyway love the video ❤ ✨️

[@teenalot1235]

I know this is 2 years late but Mark mentioning Lost Genre reminds me of the time they did a cute collab. My two faves 😅

[@samantha1102]

Lost genre did this story a few days ago. At the end he showed the message from op. He apologized to her if it got her into trouble. She said no and found it hilarious

[@lunarsky4583]

My mother was forced to go through it. It was cut short after my abusive father nearly killed her so yea certain judges are hell bent on keeping catholic or Christian couples together in the US. The judge is still working to this day to that is what gets me. He litterally said "you will always be married in the eyes of god so you either get along or get over it".

[@joycetaepke2533]

I live in Michigan and when I got divorced 13 years ago, there was a minimum 6 months before we could even begin mediation or court because we had minor children at the time. I’ve heard that some judges will waive that occasionally.

[@knitwit9447]

Throw away the husband! Cheating is horrible, and it just makes me so mad

[@martinoyola8316]

16:29 Lost genre xd I remembered watching his video a few months ago

[@canigetabooyaa6449]

we live in the US and my sister is going through a divorce, and I do think they have to file separation papers before they can go through the actual divorce. They also have kids so it might be for them, but she is defiantly not going back to him as he cheater on her several times throughout their marriage.

[@isabellavesely5755]

Hey Mark, the cheating stories have been bringing me down recently. I'd love to hear some nightmare neighbours or funny stories if you have any in the queue

[@LillyianPuppy]

The relationship and cheating stories bum me out too, so I would just skip those uploads, but now they're mixed in with AItA episodes. 🙁

[@platinum_noelle]

If a judge ever ordered a reconciliation period one me with a cheating partner, I'd probably get nailed for contempt for saying "sounds like something someone who cheated on their wife/husband would say if they were a judge."

[@BIGBLOCK5022006]

I would've said, "With all due respect, your honor, what are you smoking, and where can I get some? Or could you give me the name of your dealer because you have to be on some seriously illegal or strong stuff to order a reconciliation period with a cheater."

[@cynicalminion]

i mean obviously there's the whole religion/gender/property angle, but also, i could see having a "reconciliation period" as a legal option to "cooler heads prevail" and an actual agreement as opposed to a judgement from the court, and as such i wouldn't view it as much from the perspective of "maybe you won't want the divorce" as i would from the perspective of "maybe you'll come to an agreement on your own"... however, my personal opinion (which definitely doesn't sound like happened here, although i'm not in the UAE, so i'm not surprised) would be "the divorce won't be finalized for six months, in case you decide to settle it on your own, but here's a no-contact order as well, covering you, your family, and your work..."

[@tamsinmoore2111]

When trust is broken, respect quickly follows, so there is no true foundation for love to grow and be maintained. No matter what type of 'reconciliation time' any judge may order. Judges are there to adjudicate the law, not act like a couples counsellor! This has just started appearing in posts, it's ludicrous!

[@VidWatcher01]

I saw that video from Lost Genre!! I love you & Lost Genre!!

[@chulutheimposter5415]

Hello Mark!! How are you doing tonight? I hope all is well and I wish you a great night!! Gotta download WinRAR again so I can get some stupid brushes I need ;-;

[@AndyyWithAY]

I think divorce is the only answer in Story 1. Both the husband and AP are making horrible decisions.

[@phatcavy98]

I'm kind of a dick, I'd have told him when he decided he wants remarried that I want to extend my reconciliation. Watch him have to stand before the judge and explain why he suddenly doesn't want to reconcile.

[@stellamccoy5259]

It should be harder to get married since it can be so hard to get divorced.

[@jgw5491]

Google "Divorce waiting period" to find out about laws in the US. Some states have no waiting period, some have various periods of months. There are two states where you have to wait a year! Maryland and Nevada (!). The Nevada one is funny because it used to be the place you got quicky divorces back in the day when It was difficult to get one at all.

[@solveigssang9911]

I didn't experience cheating,, but this post made me miss Dubai! Enjoy paradise OP! Have a Bubblegum & Cinnamon sisha for me, and enjoy your freedom!

[@jacegallagher8589]

Sadly, in MOST jurisdictions there is a 6 month-2 year "cool off" period, depending upon jurisdiction. There are 2 forms that period takes. "Reconciliation" most of the time means there has to be proof that an earnest effort was made to save the marriage. The other is "Separation" which simply means you have to have been apart for a certain amount of time. Proof of separation is an easier burden to prove. In addition, some divorces have to be granted by the original jurisdiction of marriage while others will nullify a marriage anyways. It comes down to the marriage contract itself and how it was written and also what jurisdiction each spouse lives in at the time of divorce proceedings.

[@romonaelrod7870]

Good evening you waffle loving cheeky so and so's. Hiya Mark and Poppy.

[@lindaouellette6656]

Omg…. HOW COULD YOU OP!!!!! actually ruin the lives of cheaters and make them miserable 😩. You’re my hero….lol

[@Alteusgirl]

I had heard of periods of reconciliation but that was mentionned about my aunt's divorce in the 80's XD i thought this shit didnt exist (for the shits and giggles my aunt's ex husband forged her signature on multiple documents and cheated on her but tried to ask for reconciliation, since my aunt couldnt prove he had forged her signature the judge almost granted it until the sons of said husband testified that he was still seeing his mistress XD). he also tried to forge her signature again after they were divorced to take on a loan wtf

[@keninam3305]

Waiting periods for divorce are actually very common, especially if both parties haven't filed petitions to divorce!

[@lovelysakurapetalsyt]

I heard this on Lost Genre's actual KZbin! OP is apparently doing well now at least

[@Josku2411]

Oop early and i just settled on my arcane ocs colourpalette and she is gorgeous

[@sree050791]

My guess is the OP in this story is from India, like me. In Indian legal system, even if the couple apply for a mutual divorce, the date for hearing is set after 6 months. 6 months is supposed to be 'rethinking period'. Truthfully, a waste of time. Here, marriage is considered 'sacred' and even the legal system tends to go along with that rather than thinking along more practical lines.

[@keninam3305]

In the US we also have waiting periods. California's, for example, is also 6 months. They vary by state.

[@MrClarissacain]

I live in Oklahoma, family judges can order a 3 month "cooling off" period in divorces, and do so basically as a matter of course since they "don't have time for divirce/remarry/divorce again." I don't know if it's just a weird quirk around here, but my bestie has a personal policy of "never badmouth the ex, there's a good chance they'll be the next."

[@heatherdickau5335]

The reconciliation period is outdated. And should never be a judges requirement. If someone wants a divorce, they should get one. Having to jump through more hoops is ridiculous.

[@TheMimiSard]

I heard another story at some point that made mention of reconciliation periods and it said that the country in question (unnamed as well) was conservative in nature, so the OP may be from a country like that.

[@thebigmystery7841]

Id end up going to jail if this happened to me because if a judge looked at me and said Id be forced to still be with an awful man like that Id cuss the judge out in fury. No one would be telling me what Im allowed to do with myself and a relationship. Wtf. I know obviously its dumb but I wouldnt be able to help myself. The audacity.

[@xxratsrcutexx3494]

Getting tested for covid :(( 🤞 hopefully I don't get positive lol Edit: yusss I tested negative lets gooo :D

[@Wikita007]

Nice shoutout to Lost Genre!

[@andreavanhoof6047]

Story 1: Do not reconcile!

[@zachf748]

I wish she had contacted the police on him and given them the proof.

[@heathermiller5765]

Lol I heard the story even BEFORE Lost Genre covered it (apparently posted just 2 days ago). This is the most I've heard so far though as far as updates go Edit: Never heard of forced reconciliation before, no

[@otravis676]

I had no clue my wife was cheating on me until 2 years after my divorce. I ran into a mutual friend and she told me that my ex had a guy on the side for about a year and a half before our divorce. I got really pissed at said friend for not telling me but I do understand why she didn't. Ya see I had pretty bad anger control issues back then and after a few years of therapy I don't really deal with it now. She decided not to tell me in fear of what I might do. I did confront my ex while picking up my kids one weekend and she got the very terrified look on her face and couldn't look me in the eyes for like 2 years after that. The worse part was the guy on the side was a very long time friend of mine from grade school. I met up with him at a pool hall and confronted him and I'm not proud of this but I did beat the ever loving hell outta him in the parking lot.

[@Keyonne88]

"Now his parents are mad at the stress I've caused their son" -- get bent. lol

[@DePhoegonIsle]

wow, dat story >.>. The ordered reconciliation is under the premise of attempting to force cool heads on exceptionally heated & emotional topics. It's saved more than a few relationships and has been used in ones where it shouldn't have been, but the honest difference between some of the cases are almost impossible to tell. It seriously gives time to sort out marriage ending lies/misunderstandings (which ironically are typically are around one thinking the other is cheating) and can be mixed up with real cases of actual cheaters. What I don't get is just the kind of insanity and what the bloody end goal of that guy is.

[@AllenTax]

The backlash of laws to where he originated. His social life there. As can be seen stain to family if not together. Old family crap like that is outdated and needs to die.

[@elizabethrossi7604]

1: Walk away. While you can.

[@sherrygibbs7547]

👍Lost Genre🙂 Don't know about if it is happening in Canada, now....but, courts "making" people "try to make their marriage work," DID happen back in the 1970s. 👍 Mark Narrations. 🙂

[@matteoburatti6231]

Soo shoutout to lost genre i guess

[@morganm.4521]

22 views and 22 likes, very nice

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Hey you yes you remember to take care of yourself gosh darn it, you are always valid, and I love you and care about you so please take care of yourself 💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗

[@drl5002]

Sick of hearing courts ordering separation periods, marriage counseling and now reconciliation periods. That is not the courts place. If someone files for divorce the courts only business is separation of assets and child custody and support. Anything else is overstepping their boundaries and meddling in matters not their business.

[@apackofquackers6008]

My divorce back in 1979, Oklahoma,USA, had a 6 month ; no co-habitation or sexual intercourse with each other clause, before it was finalized. Basically the judge granted the divorce but if you moved back in with each other or had consensual sex with each other the court could revoke it’s grant of divorce. I’m not sure the reasoning behind the waiting period. Neither happened and I received my notary stamped copy of my paperwork in the mail 4 days after the 6 months ended. My spouse cheated on me also.

[@ceciliacalvin207]

Different countries have different divorce rules.

[@CherryDoughnut]

My country has a thinking period of 6 months. You file for divorce, wait 6 months, file some more paperwork and then it'll hopefully be granted. (If the couple divorcing has lived separately for at least 2 years the divorce will be granted without a thinking period) Edit: added more info