Goodbye EF-M? Why Canon's decision is a blessing in disguise.

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[@michaelowenchandras]

It's still a really great camera, remember folks, you can take great pictures with any camera and lens

[@noth606]

Nah, you really can't take great pics with any cam. Any decently working non-specialized camera combo yes, perhaps, but not _any_. I have a almost brand new camera that not only can you not take great pictures with, you cannot take ANY pictures with it, unless you fugg around in a darkroom with it and fiddle a 35mm piece of film in the right place by hand, the transport on it doesn't work - never has. That said I don't give two poops about what Canon does per se, but I hope the EF-M lenses get cheaper for a while, before going stratospherically expensive, so I can complete my collection without needing to rob a bank.

[@lunatune3714]

I know right. People always assume the latest and greatest camera will somehow turn them into a better photographer....doesn't work that way.

[@michaelowenchandras]

@@lunatune3714 The graph isn't linear. the latest phone compared to a 300$ Dslr have a huge differences, but from a 300$ Dslr to a $2000 camera, the difference might not be that significant.

[@leirumf5476]

Long live FD leases!!!

[@radek1cihak]

Yes, but Canon didn't give us time to find our way through the M50. It takes a long time... But Canon said: Buy this great thing right away and then forget about it and go for another one.

[@iancraig]

You’re quite right Mark. There’s nothing wrong with these cameras. I’m using m50, M6 and M200. They all share my arsenal of lenses and I’m very happy with the video quality that I get from them all. It is curious that Canon are finishing the m series though. The M50 must have been an entry into mirrorless for so many people and Canon even put out a mk2 of that and the M6. They were all at a nice price level for beginners.

[@apislapis]

I agree 100% Ian. I will be keeping my M50s & M200 for many years to come having spent thousands on gear. It is very odd that Canon should ditch one of their best selling cameras (of all time?) and fail to support the lens range for it, then replace it with a lens range where there are no 3rd party manufacturers with more affordable lenses for beginners. I subscribe to both your and Mark's channel as the pair of you make perfect sense to me. Thumbs up to Mark for his comments. Neither of you are shills like many of the channels who talked rubbish about the exclusive leaks they had about the new M50 II, none of which proved to be true and who ditched the M50 quickly some time ago. Mark has tried to find lenses that have extended the life of the EF-M range while Canon did rather little for M owners. Keep up the great work Mark & Ian.

[@iancraig]

@@apislapis Thank you. I don’t understand really why Canon did this. The M6 is a lovely little camera and is deadly with the Sigma f1.4 series of lenses for low light and lovely shallow depth of field. I was hoping that Canon might have continued with new models but just to discontinue ………….

[@alexsl0576]

I’m looking to get the m6 as my first mirrorless is it fun to shoot photography and learn videography

[@iancraig]

It’s a really nice camera and I’m really surprised that Canon dropped them.

[@lifetimesofamultiplemediam1003]

The Canon M50 is the only camera that I have been unable to walk away from since I got it in 2018. It is the only camera that calls me back whenever I say I'm done with it. It's small, light, and takes fantastic pictures, and once you get used to it, you can even make the battery last longer by switching it off in between shots. I bought it for street photography, but have ended up using it for events, and protests, even vlogs. I've ended up buying adapters for it, and shooting it with vintage m42 lenses… and when I pop a UFO lens on it, it is even pocketable. I've used it so much, all the rubbers are falling off at the back. I've used it in the rain, where it has got soaked and started to spaz out, but after blowing it out, and leaving it in rice, it has sorted itself out on more than one occasion. Because of my back problem, I have considered going full in on the M-system, even buying a second body for more serious work for when I can't lift my DSLRs anymore. I'm still going to do that irrespective of Canon's decision to discontinue this little wonder machine… more fool them.

[@ka124as]

15 years from now everyone’s going to make videos about how great this camera is and why it’s relevant in 2038 lol. Bet.

[@PeskyDJ]

The M6 MKII is a beast! I'll most likely upgrade to a full frame eventually but this little dude is staying with me. Seriously underrated camera.

[@aman4everchanged......129]

I have the M6 MkII as well. I am very happy that I got it over the m50.

[@garybeaumont1373]

I had the M6ii, I stupidly sold it and have missed it ever since, hard to tell the difference from that and my full frame

[@miggyloz806]

@@garybeaumont1373 Um idk, I loved my M6Mii but there's definitely a difference between it and my A7c.

[@MichiMallu]

If you just use an outdated camera, you won’t know what a beast is!

[@Mannywallace]

I love mine. I wish canon made a full frame version in the same form factor.

[@cornerofthemoon]

I've been Betamaxed again.

[@Blah-blah-sure]

Laughs me too! Beta was better than VHS. 😊

[@EastsideBodega_]

Same

[@laurasmithnature]

😂 same!

[@alanlovatt]

😂same, but hey ho

[@bobapatt2204]

Still love mine M50 and learning everyday. No need for upgrading anytime soon. Great video as always Mark.

[@noth606]

The 22mm is something I personally think that everyone should play with at least once. It's not really useful to describe how balanced the lens is without being able to see what it does yourself, it hits a sort of "magical" equilibrium between a sort of fisheye and something like a fullframe 50mm fixed that I at least think is good enough to make it a "must have" on EF-M cameras, if not on the camera it should be in the bag with it. Mine doesn't sit on my EOS-M that often because I have a Viltrox adapter and some other lens on it to get some specific more tele look, but the 22mm is never far.

[@fingereze7202]

Yeah, been looking at that one to add to my arsenal...

[@noth606]

@@fingereze7202 To me the best thing it does is that pictures with it don't have that "too wide" look if you get what I mean, it takes pictures that look normal unless you go out of your way to push it, like a full picture height vertical object at the edge of frame. It has the look of a 35mm on FF almost exactly. The only real downside is that it doesn't play well with low light, but that's logical. Another big advantage is that it makes the camera look like a plain compact camera, not at all 'intimidating' like a big DSLR tends to be, so people tend to be more willing to be photographed with it - at least in my experience. I often take pictures of things that spontaneously happen, and when I ask if I may take pictures, people always look at my camera. The EOS-M+22mm gets the same reaction that my compact Lumix'es do which is always "Sure" with a smile. If I'm carrying my Nikon with batterygrip etc very often it's a "Nooo..." or I have to explain what I want to do with the pictures first.

[@ecmjr]

Gonna keep my M50 until it breaks or unless my niece needs a camera. The fact that it can use all EF/EF-S lens is great, but the secret sause is the Viltrox Speedbooster. Cheap and a great combo, yes DPAF will still work with the speedbooster.

[@cre8r61]

I agree 100% keeping the M50 - the M50 is a little beast and so versatile with the speed booster or adapter for the EF and EF-S lenses

[@timothykieper]

All good points. I think what most ( or all ) manufacturers are trying to do is force buyers into higher-priced items with fewer features. As much as I like the M6 II, it has no EVF unless purchased separately. Somewhat related, you now see new higher-priced phones with no micro SD slot. For me, it is a signal to start developing my photography skills using budget and vintage gear.

[@KoenKooi]

Not haven a useless token EVF was the main M6II selling point for me.

[@Blah-blah-sure]

Yep. Take away your choices. And offer you, what they want you to have. It's very sad.

[@lionheart4424]

The M50 is the camera that made me fall in love with photography (paired with the Sigma 30mm f/1.4). It introduced me to your channel and others too of course, but during a somewhat difficult year photography has given me a north to follow up. As always thanks for your videos Mark!

[@gordon3988]

Always thought the M6II was underrated; certainly was popular initially but then seemed to lag against others, yet despite this it was always relatively expensive. Some great advice!

[@fear4810]

i own a canon m50 and today picked up a 70-300mm usm mk ii. i absolutely love the images that come out of this combo. its a EF lens and works flawlessly with a adapter. also the nifty fifty is working amazing. this means that there is a ton of lenses out there that will work with the canon m series line of camera's.

[@Random-mx5fx]

What adapter do you have? I’ve been looking cause some people say viltrox adapter may damage the camera mount or have an awful vignette.

[@fear4810]

@@Random-mx5fx im using a regular viltrox adapter and never had any issues. The images seem sharp and the ring feels solid

[@SirDavidAsher]

I’ve had several professional DSLR’s. I did a lot of traveling around town for a job and always packed like travel version of my rig. It was still bulky. I got the M50 Mark II because of how good it is. It’s a sleeper and I honestly use it way more than my pro rig.

[@wubbsy]

I bought the M50II as an upgrade from my EOS M. It was a massive upgrade. I then bought a R10 mainly because of the better autofocus especially for animals. Also full manual with silent shutter, more FPS plus the bigger buffer together with UHS-II cards. Also I get access to the RF lens lineup. Still using the M50II for vintage lenses and as another camera for multicam live productions.

[@IndigoEyePhotography]

There are several key differences between cameras and computers though: 1) Cameras have more moving parts that wear out and will be harder to replace. 2) Camera batteries degrade over time, and the use of proprietary designs (i.e. not the standard AA) will also make them harder to replace. It is precisely because of these reasons that I am considering grabbing a second M50 so that I can continue using my underwater casing for this particular camera model.

[@kalinmir]

there is plenty of third party battery manufacturers

[@getfmlr]

Mirrorless cameras have even less moving parts that traditonal dslr whose main weak point was the mirror and shutter. So much so that shutter counts are practically irrelevant now. Not to mention with dummy battery, powerbank is all you need...I don't think powerbanks are going anywhere.

[@Bob_C]

I'm not going to give up my M50 or my M6 MII, my Sigma Trio or my other EF-M lenses now or in the foreseeable future. I think these cameras are phenomenal. Besides, I'm still learning how to use all the features and functionality packed into these small mirrorless cameras! I'm satisfied with the quality of the photos and videos they produce. I'm good for now, unless some other fantastic camera in the future catches my eye. 😉I anticipated that Canon would discontinue the EF-M line at some point. It's a shame, but understandable. Perhaps now I can find an EVF for my M6 MII cheaper now. I didn't buy an EVF initially because I thought they were overpriced. Thanks, Mark for the info in this video.

[@firefliesandroses]

Same here! I'd buy the M6 II body again and again to use it with the Sigma lenses, or the 22mm which is mostly glued to my camera body. Such a great little system.

[@VladimirKostek]

Love my m50 mkII, I use it semi-professionally for shoots and don't think i'll change anytime soon. I'd rather invest more in the lense system since there are some really cool EF-m lenses out there! I'd actually like to pickup a m6 mkii body soon as a B cam :)

[@JeffCreates]

Canon M wasn't a bad idea, but because they went for "smaller, lighter" etc from the start, they had a fight on their hands with every other new release. Working professionals are not the audience for the modern releases. As you say, people that earn money don't care for 8k video when their clients have never shown any interest in it. One of the most talented photographers I know uses a Canon 450D, but they use it so very well that absolutely no-one cares.

[@ecmjr]

Well said!

[@mikes978]

The M line being smaller and lighter was exactly what kept me away from it as I was coming from the canon rebel DSRL line and wanted to upgrade to a bigger DSRL or mirrorless camera. Now after having to lug my 80D around all the time and sometimes with the huge 70-200mm, a second smaller and lighter camera for street or traveling started to sound appealing and I picked up an M6 and I regret being so closed minded about it when they first came out

[@tompurvis1261]

Shooting with a pair of 5DM3s for years. Bought a M50 a few years ago and never really used it. My research into mirrorless had me dust the M50 off and try again. I picked up the Sigma 16mm and a 7Artisans 35mm and have an adapter for my EF lenses. Loved using it on a trip except the controls are lacking for moving focus and adjusting other settings. I did really like the mirrorless more than I thought I would so after returning home, I bought the R6 mark ii. Used it for an engagement session a few days later and love it. I could see my next international trip being all mirrorless.

[@alfathsayyidina]

Heyy i'm still using canon eos M (original M), i bought about 150USD with 18-55 EFM at 2019. And still pleasant to use. Even the autofocus are really slow. But hey, i didn't use it for sport, i mostly use it as a hobby. So i think just because it's an old camera, doesn't mean it takes a bad picture.

[@nathanlovin]

Is it a bummer? For sure. Will I continue to shoot my M6ii for the next decade? Absolutely. I love this camera. With the pancake 22mm, it can go anywhere with little hassle. I’ll probably take this as the time to finally pick up a few lenses I’ve had my eye on: Rokinon 12mm, Sigma 16mm, and a telephoto.

[@peterball8241]

I bought the M3 when it first came out and still use it regularly despite having full frame cameras. It is joy to use with the 22mm f2, small, light and nobody takes any notice when I'm using it.

[@positiivi_teme]

I got the m50 as my first ever camera and have been really loving it. Practicing photography has really improved, and actually opened my artistic eye. I've gotten so many good photos that I've made prints and even ordered full size pictures on walls, to myself and as a gifts. I got it mostly for it's size and low price point, as I wanted something to take with me for hiking or bikepacking. And it really has been perfect for it.

[@Blah-blah-sure]

And that's what it's about! I'm a hobbyist. And too me it's n There's a lot of really good cameras out there. But it's really about practicing & discovering the lens that make for great pics

[@noahjsmit]

I had my M50 for some years, and got itchy for an upgrade, but after researching and playing around with my M50 to explore unused features, I'm now keen to buy a second body and additional lenses 2nd hand. Absolute beast of a little camera!

[@Crossingt]

I really love my M50ii. Got it when my Panasonic TZ200 conked out in March 2023. I was aware the EF-M system was on the way out, but it suited my needs and importantly budget. Got the body and kit lense new on special for $800 AUD, a second hand 55-200 mm in Tokyo for $292 AUD and the 22mm prime for $160 AUD (inc postage) second hand on eBay. Probably another $120ish on bag, quick release clips, screen protector and spare batteries. The small size and weight is perfect for bush walks and when I am out on my bike. With 22mm prime it is not much bigger than the Panasonic and probably smaller than my old Canon G12 powershot that took great photos until the lense got scratched. I am hoping that the M50ii will give me many years of fun.

[@Chasingsolace]

I was into photography years ago and just fell out of the hobby. The Canon M50 definitely brought me back and now I'm looking to by a new higher end dslr. I'll be keeping the M50 as it's an amazing everyday travel camera. For the price it's one of the best you can get!

[@mindfulnessbytheocean]

I got my Canon M50 in the fall of 2018, and proceeded to get the other M lenses whenever I could. For a while it was my primary camera, and now it’s my travel camera. With the 22mm lens it is incredibly small and light. Perfect for any scenario where a smaller camera is ideal!

[@LillySchwartz]

I agree with much of what you said here. I still use the original Canon EOS M for video with MagicLantern. More than 10 years old and the image quality is stunning, it even produces raw video. Perfect! I actually don't use it with EOS-M lenses but lenses from other mounts adapted to it. I have so many lenses for other systems that buying native lenses didn't make any sense at all. I've actually been waiting for full frame mirrorless cameras to get out of their constant upgrade cycle for video because I like to keep my gear for a long time. I think we're getting there finally. My main camera for photos is a Leica M6 from 1990 by the way. That's when photography on film reached the peak of that technology. I'm waiting for the equivalent of that for video before I invest in a full frame mirrorless. I'm thinking R8 might already be the ticket if I don't need IBIS.

[@wickie4801]

You are right in all you say. I own M50II and M6II. I bought all original lenses for them. Beeing very satisfied with the results. The M-system is great for holidays and normal photography. So I will not give up the system. Lightweight, inexpensive, easy to carry with - much advantages. The only weakness ist, that there are only 7 lenses. But on the other hand its easy to chose, which one do you use. Conclusion: I will stay with the M-system because it is good enough.

[@iicydiamonds]

I bought my M50 Mark 2 a couple of years ago, and I heard from several people that I shouldn't get it because the M-mount would be discontinued sooner rather than later, and I wouldn't be able to get new lenses. But the thing is, I am not the kind of person who WANTS a ton of lenses that all overlap and get dusty. I've been very happy with the size of the camera and the quality of the photos, and I see no reason to jump ship now. I also have a converter to the regular Canon mount if there is something I want that's missing. Thank you for all the times you've featured these cameras and lenses! Under-rated, for sure!

[@deanrobertnoble138]

Still using my Canon 6D and along with the M5, i will continue to. Both take great images. You’re right, a good camera doesn’t cease to be so just cos they stop manufacturing them. My 5D is testament to that; 2005 and the images still look lovely! Great video; thankyou!

[@juandapena1429]

I completely agree, a camera that took good photos will continue to do so. My most modern camera is precisely an m5, and with it I have a compact camera of sufficient quality for the use I make.

[@PaulHassall-ig1dk]

Hi Mark, Great channel, always sound advice. I have a Canon M5 and have taken your advice and bought a M6 Mark II on eBay. Very pleased with the upgrade!

[@radek1cihak]

Today I am having an incredibly sad day when I found out that I will no longer be able to buy a telephoto lens for the Canon M50 Mark II anywhere. A little while ago I was crying and wailing on your video that you posted 3 years ago. Thank you for this almost philosophical attitude that eases my pain. You are indeed a wise man. Your vision is more real than my poor lament. But even so, I have to say that Canon shook my confidence. A camera is different than a computer or a car. With a computer, I have to know that it will inevitably grow old and go away - most computers are only for work or superficial entertainment, but a camera is a purely creative, magical thing. The day I get it, probably no one will buy the entire arsenal of all lenses at once - on the contrary, I have to have time to slowly find out where my photos will take me. My journey must mature. However, Canon did not give me the necessary time. With the decision to buy the device, I am also deciding for the entire system, which of course has no continuation. It's a betrayal. I can't afford to keep buying new cameras. The M50 Mark II is still new to my taste and I fell in love with it. But your look comforts me. I just don't know whether to have the lens sent from Japan via eBay - after all, it can't survive the trip in good health. I may even say goodbye to my dream of a telephoto lens today - maybe it's childish to want to photograph birds somewhere in the distance. Maybe you won me over for the 22mm dream, even though this range is in the kit lens 15-45mm.

[@bodinian]

I sold my M50 mark II in May 2022 because I saw the writing on the wall back then. It's a good system and great for a small setup with good image quality. It got me back into photography as a hobby. I moved to the RF system because I knew that's where Canon would be putting its R&D and future support.

[@adventureswithrusty2012]

Well said Mark. I migrated from EOS EF DSLR to R6 mirrorless but kept my EF lenses, so I recently found an EOS-1D X (Mk 1) that's 10+ years old. And from a sensor performance perspective (specifically color science and ISO), the 1DX is only marginally behind the R6...which apparently uses the same sensor as the 1DX Mk3. I think the newer cameras give you advantages in video performance, but if you're a stills photographer, there's nothing wrong with the older lenses and DSLR cameras. Investing in skills is often a better option...

[@dino2400]

Sounds like I can pick up some EF-M lenses secondhand for good prices ... 🙂. My M6Mk2 has some good years ahead !!

[@DanaPushie]

I have no regrets having purchased the M50 mk2. It's a really great, versatile, little camera. Canon has it's reasons for discontinuing the M series, and to be frank, I don't care. Will I move up to a more expensive camera? No! All cameras have their advantages and short comings. Take that into account and you're good to go. I appreciate your willingness to share Mark.

[@lukwinkert]

When I saw your thumbnail, I think my heart stopped for a second. My girlfriend and I just started photography and we bought our first camera about a month ago. A Canon M50 Mk2. I did not realize, Canon discontinues this system and had now Idea, what that would mean. Your video calmed my nerves a lot. My girlfriend is still on edge though. She's of the type "when I want to buy a lens, I want to buy it new". Maybe I just have to buy one or two lenses on ebay in the future and hopefully have good experiences to calm her down.

[@meftomafto]

Hi i want to buy conon m50 mark ii but i'm not sure do you think it worth to buy? Actually i want to buy conon m50 mark ii because i can efford it and it is cheap

[@lukwinkert]

@@meftomafto Well it's my first and only camera so I don't have any comparison against cameras from different manufacturers in the same price-range. It takes good pictures and I like shooting with it.

[@skyedavis466]

Speaking of buying used lenses, I just bought a "used" 24-105 F4 IS L... it looks and feels brand new and it cost $500. It's amazing what you can find out there!! ❤❤

[@LivingByFire]

I use the M6 Mark ii for my KZbin channel. By far a great camera and honestly i have no need in upgrading.

[@melanierhianna]

I passed on my aged Canon 400D to my niece after buying an M50 a few years ago. I love my M50. I also have the adapter as I have a bunch of EF and EF-S lenses and I still have a film EOS camera to shoot B & W film. So I’ll stick with the M50 as my APC camera for some years and my next purchase, some time down the line, would be a full frame R camera.

[@fatweevlogs]

I am stuck with the M10, still use it. The only complain with it is just the video autofocus. But for photography, I think I kinda miss the dslrs such as the 50D, or even If I one day have the budget, I have been thinking to get myself a 5d classic. I have been wanting a full frame due to the shallower dof on the same focal length, plus the wider image area. So the old 5d should be great. And also I have heard about its colours, which is somehow closer to film look. But that is another story, IF i one day have the budget.

[@firefliesandroses]

Loved my little M10! Replaced it with a M6 II and a M50 for the auto focus only, otherwise the M10 was an excellent camera!

[@fatweevlogs]

@@firefliesandroses oh yesss only thenautofocus. And it would be better if it had some kind of connectivity with a wireless mic

[@Seafox0011]

Funnily enough the last camera I bought new was the M6 mk2 - a couple of years ago. Since then I've only bought secondhand - for video/film work - even happy to be owning a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera OG - that's already 3 generations old ... but still working perfectly and being m4/3 MFT has a wealth of lens types to use adapted. I think we're at 'peak digital camera' now so whatever comes out of development will be really just more refined versions of what we already have for the foreseeable future. The cross over between stills and video is now at its most mature - so we really are spoilt for choice when it comes to gear.

[@rafael_daguerre]

I sold my M6 Mark II (which is great), all its lenses and bought the Fujifilm X-H2S. The X-H2S is impressive.

[@davidg5308]

Interesting and thanks for the info, Mark! I think I will keep my M50Mkii mostly for a great compact travel camera. In the bay area 2 weeks ago and shot a bunch of nice street photos in small towns, plus with a proper filter on the 55-200, got some decent partial eclipse shots. In 2017 I lugged my DLSR to the total eclipse path and was such a pain. I'm not an expert but just having fun. Been looking at other options and always appreciate your content. Thanks for ALL your M50 content!

[@philhario3640]

I mean, there are a couple of problems with the computer analogy. Have you tried to access the internet with any computer from the 00s or earlier? Lack of security updates, increase RAM requirements, not to mention incompatibility of software with modern standards means using old computers is difficult. The analogy with -digital- cameras is also problematic because of how much digital camera tech changed in the 00s and earlier. I think this is much less true today, and cameras from the late 2010s are much more long lasting. So your point is still largely true.

[@chrisb5986]

Effing great. Now I have a six month old obsolete camera. Thanks a lot Canon.

[@DeSireeAlicea19]

Thanks for the video! I don't really follow camera news so I wouldn't have known otherwise. It's sad to see this mount go, but in a lot of ways it may be a blessing for M50 users who want to expand their lens arsenal at a discount in the future. I bought my M50 brand new in 2020 at the start of the pandemic and I don't plan on selling it or letting it go until the thing just does not switch on anymore 😂 Like you said with the computer analogy, you can keep using cameras until they quit on you essentially. If you look at the digicam craze, those cameras are well over 20 years old and people are picking them back up to shoot nostalgic photos. Perspective is important! As for video, it's still pretty great for family videos or youtube since most ppl still do not shoot in 4k. Again thanks for the info!

[@johnchastain4351]

Thanks Mark. I purchased my Canon M50 Mark 2 in July. This little camera has re-sparked my love for photography since it is so easy to carry. I purchased the Canon 32 mm and the 55-200 zoom. Been happy with those and the kit lens. The 32 is probably the best lens I have ever owned. I was disappointed with Canon's decision - I think they made another mistake. But in response I just bought a new Canon 22 fs lens for $179 with free shipping. I also purchased a Viltrox adapter and I can now use two of my lens from my old 650 from the 1980s. I just tried out my soft focus 135 mm f2.8 prime and my 50 mm f1.8. Except for the noisy auto focus they work great. So.... in a few months I may add a M6 mark 2 body and I will use both!

[@AthanCondax]

The M50 helped me get up and running with my KZbin channel. It’s a fantastic entry into photography and videography. I often choose to bring it with me on my vacations over my EOS R strictly due to its size and weight.

[@ltcolcapybara]

As an M50 MkII I'm a little sad. I'll use this camera for as long as I possibly can, though. One day I'll move to their RF series, as it seems like that's their focus now.

[@stunnerlife3288]

Move to Sony bro. Their E-mount system basically guarantees that you won't be shadowed. While at the same time you get "pro level" features on their budget cams like clean HDMI and audio monitoring. I'm keeping my M50 MK1 that I got for 400 w/ kit and 22mm f2, since I feel that I still have a lot to learn/prioritize what features I want for the next upgrade. Although, canon colors are nice and you don't really have to spend post processing.

[@michaelbower85]

The EOS M50MII was my first real camera. I liked it, but on the advice of my friend Bronson I switched to the Sony A6400. Glad I did it, and did well when I sold my Canon!

[@robin_marriott]

I love my M50 ii, for years I had Panasonic point and shoots and it’s felt like the perfect stepping stone for me. The 15-45mm kit lens is fantastic and the 22mm is even better. My only gripe is I wish I could find a telephoto lens which was ‘zoomier’ than the native 55-200mm. I’ve only had the camera since December and I’m not keen on the idea of upgrading just yet and hopefully the discontinuation will mean I can find a bargain Sigma 30mm.

[@UnionCountyPhotography]

A ‘zoomier’ lens is the 150-600mm from sigma, it’s a little pricey but it’s very worth it

[@robin_marriott]

@@UnionCountyPhotography that sounds exactly what I’m looking for. I’ll keep an eye out for one and an adapter.

[@pascaledmonton]

Mark, I think we would get along great if we were neighbours because I always agree with your reasoning and the rationale you provide in your videos. I have the M50 and I own a decent set of lenses: kit, 22mm, 32mm, 55-200mm, Rokinon 12mm, eft adapter and a few ef lenses. I'm currently looking into adding a macro lens. While I wish the M50 Mark I shot true 4K, I don't worry about it because 1080p is still my go to format, mainly because the quality is still great and the files are so much lighter to store and edit. No way you'll see me jumping ship anytime soon.

[@adreanl.2004]

I wanted to buy the canon m6 mk2, but when the r10 released I couldn't find any store for the M6 mk2, not even online, I live in Malaysia, so I ended up buying the r10, It does have better autofocus, especially for vehicles (because I shoot cars), with 4k 60 cropped, but the lens options are very limited, and I'm jealous of the sigma trio for the M mount🥲, I hope it'll get to the rf mount

[@trulsdirio]

I run a D3300 and also do analog photography on the side as well. As long as they work well there is no ceiling to how long they can be used. Newer lenses don't offer that much improvement over five year old ones as well.

[@chriscamburn]

You could make the argument that used M50 lens prices might not fall for a while. I just bought a new Canon EF-M 55-200mm lens on Ebay new instead of used for $50 less. (For the price difference why risk a used lens problem? For me a used discount is 50% of new). Being discontinued I had to compete my lens set before they're no available anywhere. As an occasional user I have no interest in spending another $1,000 or so for a non entry level kit only to chose another system that gets discontinued. And, I needed the lens now. Not in a year when it might be at 50% price.

[@marianobeuses]

I just bought the Canon M50 for 450 usd with a lens kit, Canon adaptor and a extra battery, 7K shutter count, so far it’s very good.

[@cornerofthemoon]

I traded my M6 Mark II and accompanying lenses for a used (with warranty) Canon 90D. I suppose I could have squeezed a couple more years out of the M6 but decided to sell while the EF-M still had value in the used market. The specs of the 90D are similar to the M6 but is native to the EF lenses in my collection. I'll miss the compact form factor of the M6 but the 90D has far better battery life.

[@MrCrimenews]

I really love the M 50 and the M 50 mark two because they are so small and lightWeight delivering quality images. My videos and stills are really impressive. Of course I want to see something that small in real 4K. I’d also like a headphone Jack.

[@Ballissle]

My only concern about this is finding it harder to get new unopened m mount lenses for normal prices.

[@isyaboy22]

As someone looking to upgrade from a rebel t6i (nothing wrong with this cam) that’s been looking at used m6ii and efm lenses, (also thinking of adapting efl lenses, thoughts?) I’m happy hah

[@jasmijnariel]

I own an m50 mk2 for 3weeks now, bought it second handed from a guy that i think never even used it. He had noooo idea how the camera worked. Came with the kitlens. Yesterday i picked up a 55-200mm on sale, so yeah,so far i think the camera will be with me for the next 5-10y. I am not a person that wants a new toy every week. And with lens adapters i dont see a problem for the future. Humans are very good at solving problems, so it will all be okay

[@ConcealedWeapon]

As I've always said: Sensor (or film) and lens determine image quality, camera determines how easily you would take a photo but is the photographer who makes a beautiful image.

[@alexrobertson9875]

I thought I loved my Canon 7D mkii till I bought a Canon M50 for travelling as light as possible. Absolutely love the M50 and carry it with me a lot of the time. Sad to see it discontinued. May have to try and get the Canon 28mm f3.5 Macro lens before it's gone.

[@funknick]

Same reason I picked up a used 7DmkII (even older than these M-series cams). If the price is right and the camera is in good working order, use it until it breaks down or stops doing what you need of it. Do you really wanna be "that person" trying to keep up with the Jones's as every new body, lens, and accessory comes out? Or do you wanna focus on your craft, keep taking great photos and improve your skills? Cause a new camera isn't going to magically make you a better photographer.

[@Soundbrigade]

Got the EOS M, M3 and now an M50 and realize that I should have kept the M3, but the M50 is perfect though. Got some Canon original lenses and a bunch of other lenses bought cheaply from China. For a short time I considered upgrading to the new R-series of cameras but realized I would exhaust my reserves and still just got one standard lens and being forced to drop all the fun lenses I had.

[@daniellrodriguezs]

Wow! Your voice has changed so much in the last year! I don’t know how you have done it but congratulations! I just come from one of your videos you posted one year ago and you sound completely different. Very Interested to know how did you achieved that 🙌🏼

[@markwiemels]

Are you talking about my actual voice? or the quality of the audio?

[@SummersSnaps]

I think it comes down to mostly genre when it comes to gear, and competitiveness. For example, when I shot my K-1 for weddings and such, my keeper rates and overall volume of shots provided to client were low. 4.4fps, buffer of 17 and flakey AF doesn't suit well for this style. Going to an XH2S is night and day difference and has seen my business grow accordingly. However, in many other applications like landscape the K-1 is still superb, in fact it might be THE BEST landscape camera going around (name another camera with built in astrotracing, gps, super rugged, the best implementation of pixelshift, unique robust tilt screen, incredible RAW files, bla bla). So indeed many old cameras are fine depending on what you do with your camera but I think specifics matter, with newer tech comes support to enable you to capture moments with higher keeper rates that leads to a richer portfolio. Pick the right tool for the job is my mantra.

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

I had an M50, and I saw that thing coming the moment the first RF mount APS-C cameras were announced, so I sold everything then and there (I already had a Fuji X-T1 on the side, upgraded to an X-T2 in the process, been happy since). I wouldn't recomment anyone wanting to get into a system for a long time to get into EF-M right now, however if that person is just strictly a hobbyist that isn't planning on doing much besides personal stuff, travel stuff etc, then honestly the lenses that are available on the EF-M system are more than good enough and more than what a hobbyist would need for all of their photography. New lenses be damned, if there is already what you need, why do you want more? You talked about the Viltrox, Sigma and some Canon lenses, but there is two other lenses I want to talk about : the excellent 11-22 which is an awesome lens, and the 32mm f/1.4 which is probably the sharpest lens I've ever seen (and I use quite good Fuji glass so that should be telling). There is really good lenses in the EF-M system, and good camera bodies to boot. My personal choice would go for a used M5, the sensor is a little older but still good, and the ergonomics of this camera are just damn nice. It's perfect for a hobbyist. Otherwise I just hope that Canon just straight up re-use the optical designs of lenses like the 22mm f/2 and 32mm f/1.4 and make banger RF-S lenses, cause really that's the only thing that cameras like the R10 and R7 lack : good, purpose built APS-C glass.

[@JackieMakesVideosPhoFun]

Thanks for letting us know about this change (love your channel by the way!). The M50 was my 1st real camera after using a point and shoot for countless years. As I'm still learning, I only have the kit lens, the 11-22 mm & the 55-200 mm. I'm always looking into adding to my collection of lenses so will definitely have to look to adding more.

[@lisafitzinger2456]

I still love my M6 MarkII. Small and sharp with an adapter and my E lens. Love the Canon Crop ESL 60mm macro with this camera for macros on hikes. The built-in flash does get blocked by the lens when very close. So I use a larger flash.

[@jkbrwn]

All my favorite photographers are old and shot on film. I like to remind myself of this when I get caught up in the tech side of things.

[@Chavorrucosbarandgrill]

Man I really wish I could get my hands on a used 55-200mm for my fall vacations on Oct, however I'm short with all the things I need to pay for the vacations.

[@mattnewman128]

I think cancelling the EFM mount is a smart decision by Canon. As I am old school any lens with a plastic mount is a no go. Having owned the M6 Mark II and using EF glass the results were not the best, in low light or for action, and by Canons own recommendation there was a list of preferred optics due to the cameras small pixel pitch. If you truly wanted to expand your photography past the beginner level you would be better suited to the budget full frame options (as most of the lens recommended were full frame), given you have the budget and size is no you main factor for photography. The lens purchase is always more important than the body, and a good lens can last many years.

[@iggytse]

Auto focus is better on the bigger Canon cameras. At least that is what I saw in the review a few years ago when I was looking into getting an M series.

[@ThiagoMatuo]

I just bought the R8 and should sell my M200, but I'm still thinking about it. The M series made me start liking photography as a hobby and the M200 is just fantastic, I carry it more than my phone sometimes. It's really sad to see Canon discountinuing that amazing serie that problably made a lot of people like me to start with photography.

[@deffunc]

It's been clear for a year now that the M series are end of life. I picked up several lenses in the 2022 November specials and it was interesting that the prices stayed reduced into 2023. My last purchase for this system was a new M6 mk II and the 32mm f1.4, both at 25% off. That combo has blown me away with the quality of images, so much so that I doubt I will need anything else for a long time.

[@srt10acrx]

I bought my M50 for video capability on a budget and it is super great for that but I have never been fond of the images I get out of the camera. I always tend to prefer what I create on other cameras including older digicams like my minolta dimage. Even the pictures I take that I like there's still something off with them that I don't feel when taking on my film cameras or my digicams. I just cannot put a finger on it. All that to say I'm all for using older equipment if it still works. No reason to upgrade if your camera is still giving you good images. But I dont think I could ever recommend the M system for photography and I totally understand why they discontinued it

[@Frostbain]

Hard agree on the general points. I didn't get the camera to keep up with tech, I got it precisely because it doesn't need to. Kids are getting into more activities, vacations, etc. and while cameras in phones are convenient, I was getting into trouble with features being removed, or only available on certain phones. With a dedicated camera and solid set of lenses, it is what it is and the only occasional surprise is if I forgot to charge my spare batteries. Lenses getting cheaper? Yes please. For everything else, there's probably an adapter.

[@barbaranostrand4214]

I have a Canon M50 Mk ii. I am interested in landscape photography and instructional video. Realistically, 1080P is more than adequate for instructional video. There are a lot of Canon M mount bodies out there. I suspect that there are third party lenses in development which will come out in M mount versions. Sigma crop sensor lenses have interchangeable mounts, so there is little reason for Sigma to stop production of M mount in the near term. That said, I already have two of the Sigma M-mount trio. I just ordered a used Canon M6 Mark II body from Japan to use as a second video camera. I also just ordered a 55-200mm M-mount lens. It has image stabilization.

[@ShaneHyTen]

I own a M6MKii and I love it and don’t like the thought of parting with it but I’ve always felt canon didn’t support the mounting system enough.

[@EastsideBodega_]

If you’re using a speed booster with EF lenses you can effectively defeat the 4K crop on the M50

[@iCthe4]

How do you, do this?

[@notcirrious]

Hey mark!- spot on! I have the M50, the M6 mk2 and a bunch of M lenses from Canon (love the 22mm) as well as Sigma and others and the EF series (for my equally crazy 5D mk2), and there is no way I am going to hit my spec ceiling any time soon. Not too worried about video, but the M6 has aweome time lapse and other stuff, right? This kit will keep me happy for years! blessings x

[@curioduo75]

Great video! Love the overview of where things are going. Hope your health is ok.

[@gtaliano]

Funny thing is that when i bought my T7i back in 2019 I really wanted an M5. But it was very expensive in my country. So I ended up with my hybrid DSLR with 2 focusing systems. Looking in perspective I got into a system that is also dead, buth with a larger native lenses support.

[@speecher1959]

I did decide to move from my M5 into the R7, so enough improvements so as to be very aware of them (e.g., focus tracking). However, I will miss my M lenses, as Canon seemed to put a bit more effort into some of them (e.g., 32mm f/1.4) than they've opted, so far, to put into RF-S.

[@tonykeltsflorida]

update: I just got a second M6 mark II. I just turned 60 so I most likely will never need another camera, ever.

[@clubberlang9054]

I love the Canon M50 Mark II. I own most of the pertinent lenses discussed on this channel. I'm looking to buy another M50 (body only) to shoot B Roll. This camera and its lenses are worth keeping around.

[@alexanderhernandez3097]

I had the M50 for a bit and took some great shots with it. Even did paid jobs, small and convenient to carry around. Side note: Target had some creator kits for the M200, I believe heavily discounted at local stores.

[@waltpierluissi2301]

i OWN a Nikon D500 and I will continue to use it till the ends of my days!!! I also have a D600 and a Nikon Z50.

[@Animaduniversum]

God, I love my EOSM stuff. Rarely use my EF stuff anymore

[@LUISXAVIER33]

Is there a way to adapt the efm lenses to Sony?

[@midus0013]

I had to upgrade to the R50 because my M50m2 stopped turning on. I died a week after the extended warranty expired. Still have it in hopes that it would just one day start working and I would just use it as a secondary camera.

[@tysonator5433]

IMO the M mount was canons approach to test the water on apsc mirrorless camera market, and watch what the competition were doing. Nikon has gone through wide range of mirrorless which did not take off. Even though canon have the RF mount there apsc cameras and lenses are lacking way behind fuji and Sony. The M mount was a small venture for camera, a retail prototype

[@davormatkovic7587]

Too bad. I have M50 from 2018 and probably wouldn t change it untill it will work. Was replacing my 60D, and was very happy with this small, light camera with similar capabilities. Can carry it around everywhere in a small bag with 3 lenses. R system looks to me much bigger, especially lenses. I will have to think carefuly what to take next. It would be nice that Canon make full frame in that small package.

[@Rheilffordd]

I have always loved my M50, and have been using it for the past 4 years, with just the kit lens, it has served me well. HOWEVER….. over the past year, I have been having a real problem with mine where the camera just crashes unexpectedly with a random error after shooting a prolonged (+3mins) video, consequently losing the video. I can’t find any solution to fix this nor any Canon servicing locally to me can find a solution. This is the ONLY issue and reason for me to move on my M50 for something else (Like an R7). So I’m saddened to see the retiring of the EF-M series, however this issue I’m having makes me lose faith in the product.

[@tonykeltsflorida]

MPB is good for used gear too. I have a Canon M6 mark II. I have a Viltrox mount adapter and a Viltrox speedbooster. I have EF lenses from my Canon SL2. Video is not a big deal to me, I have made some but anything 720p or 1080p is good enough for me. My monitor is 1440p. The Canon R3 costs more than my car, I can't drive a camera LOL.