'Marseille is cut in two': France’s election identity crisis

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The Guardian

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@thomasjules5303
@thomasjules5303 7 жыл бұрын
Go Le Pen! Australian Patriots are with you!
@donyamalak
@donyamalak 6 жыл бұрын
Thomas Jules do indegenous australians have their own le pen ? -____-
@angusbull1078
@angusbull1078 5 жыл бұрын
To those French unaware, there are more Australians buried in France than any country outside Australia. Your pathetic leaders in the 20th Century got your nation into wars they could never win, then relied on the goodwill of the Anglosphere to save their arses! How many French died defending Australia from Japan? Then you elect complete Dickheads, repeatedly, and wonder why your country is screwed? For the sake of the thousands of Australians, New Zealanders, Canadians, South Africans, and your traditional enemies, the British who died on your soil, doing your dirty work, just reject any Leftists like Macron, any Greens whatsoever, and embrace Le Pen, or any Nationalists. Your country can be salvaged yet.
@angusbull1078
@angusbull1078 5 жыл бұрын
Boris Farage Clearly, France was never worth the sacrifice of Australian blood. Should have left it to the Germans.
@angusbull1078
@angusbull1078 5 жыл бұрын
Boris Farage Don’t ever defile our nation by visiting it, our air is too valuable for an oxygen thief like you!
@djanitatiana
@djanitatiana 7 жыл бұрын
So tragic. Such a symptom of the times when the French, of all people on this planet, are afraid to assert their own identity. At one point in recent history they would be in tears at the Tricolour and La Marseillaise. They actually have a law against denigrating the Anthem. Today they are like beaten dogs. How much longer has the French identity got I wonder?
@jonb12321
@jonb12321 5 жыл бұрын
How about not making a country 'divided' in the first place? This is a direct result of very loose and weak national/EU migration policies, plus the widespread abuse of 'human rights' legislation.
@garlandremingtoniii1338
@garlandremingtoniii1338 5 жыл бұрын
jonb12321 Best Comment In here!!!!
@alexhayden2303
@alexhayden2303 5 жыл бұрын
'Far Right' = PATRIOT!
@emarskineel
@emarskineel 7 жыл бұрын
Call me crazy, but I hope the side that is NOT setting police officers on fire wins.
@antifasarkeesian1467
@antifasarkeesian1467 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sure, it'll be much better if the side setting refugees on fire wins... ^^
@emarskineel
@emarskineel 7 жыл бұрын
Datguard you'd have a point if that was actually happening.
@freshjive8586
@freshjive8586 7 жыл бұрын
Datguard dear oh dear
@carmenr.8963
@carmenr.8963 7 жыл бұрын
emarskineel Violence against migrants is very common actually
@antifasarkeesian1467
@antifasarkeesian1467 7 жыл бұрын
such criticism. much constructive. so argument.
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 5 жыл бұрын
Amrani did an article crowing about how "Banning Drill Video's WON'T Stop the Stabbings"...............THEN SHE GOT MUGGED oh the irony
@stevebannon2884
@stevebannon2884 7 жыл бұрын
"Far right" is a moderate position in reality.
@ivvvb1725
@ivvvb1725 7 жыл бұрын
No that is not right. You cannot compare french and american politics. They don't face the same issues and the same situation. In french we have this expression "comparaison n'est pas raison" (comparisons are misleading).
@kishitendou5492
@kishitendou5492 5 жыл бұрын
Far right is actually moderate position because the left has gone far too left, way beyond just far left, into the domain of lunatic left. So the current far right is far right when seen relatively from the lunatic left's position.
@freethinker4liberty
@freethinker4liberty 5 жыл бұрын
"There is no "French", we're all immigrants?" Those are fighting words.
@aakrofilms
@aakrofilms 7 жыл бұрын
From an American, this looks so much like Pennsylvania during the 2016 election. It's uncanny. Mélénchen is like a Bernie Sanders, Le Pen is a Trump, and Macron is a Hillary. Left, right, and center. Be careful what you wish for, France. Our far-right candidate ain't doing so well, is he?
@samuelraji8343
@samuelraji8343 7 жыл бұрын
schutternutter How is Le pen like trump, she has many liberal domestic policies from what I heard.
@cesarespinoza6831
@cesarespinoza6831 7 жыл бұрын
schutternutter From a french, i think he's doing alright
@serafim7779
@serafim7779 7 жыл бұрын
He's doing terribly. Flip-flopped on Syria, wants to start WW3 in North Korea, no border wall, he betrayed his fanbase and turned out to be just like the other liberal neocons
@djanitatiana
@djanitatiana 7 жыл бұрын
He's doing fine. Reformed Obamacare despite GOP problems, took just action in Syria without actually escalating, N Korea will pull their heads in (no nuke test) . Le Pen will do a lot more than Trump because there is a lot more to be done. France is perilously close to a tipping point and Macron will not arrest it's downfall.
@magnus08f250
@magnus08f250 7 жыл бұрын
schutternutter trump is far right? He's more left than Hillary. He's the one who pushed for a trillion dollar infrastructure plan. It's so clear that "left" vs "right" is really open borders globalism and nationalism. Le Pen is against a banker who doesn't pay taxes. I thought the left hated bankers and loved minorities? Isn't it sexist for not voting for Le Pen?
@lettylunasical4766
@lettylunasical4766 7 жыл бұрын
The idea of 'no good candidate' seems to be a running trait. In the US you had Trump and Hillary. In the UK currently it's between May and Corbyn. I can see so many people not voting. It's bad because that means a portion of the country get no representation, which is bad for democracy whichever way you swing. I also don't like that things are being portrayed as Right or Left when often (like Brexit) it's more complicated than that.
@richardwilliston8083
@richardwilliston8083 7 жыл бұрын
Le Pen!
@blaaaaaaahhhhkathi
@blaaaaaaahhhhkathi 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't it funny that in both of the sample areas, someone other than the two final candidates won the initial rounds?
@rosbifle413
@rosbifle413 5 жыл бұрын
Regardez maintenant comment ça se passe avec Macro'n. Il fallait voter Marine.
@A420-g2d
@A420-g2d 6 жыл бұрын
At 10:06 What is the music?
@jawaidmanzoor4396
@jawaidmanzoor4396 5 жыл бұрын
Daughter of a far right nationalist, she is looking at post Brexit for a new role for France leadership. She is a strong nationalist and that is the mood all over.
@marklowe7431
@marklowe7431 5 жыл бұрын
LePenn is mightier than the hoard.
@antifasarkeesian1467
@antifasarkeesian1467 7 жыл бұрын
"And now the cracks are beginning to show" - you are aware that the protests against the loi travail have been going on for over a year?
@JohnDoe-wd3qm
@JohnDoe-wd3qm 5 жыл бұрын
vive le Pen, vive la France
@popicelolly
@popicelolly 7 жыл бұрын
Vote Le Pen now or say goodbye to France forever.
@antifasarkeesian1467
@antifasarkeesian1467 7 жыл бұрын
Not voting for a fascist candidate AND getting to abolish one of the former most imperialistic states in the world sounds like a good deal to me.
@richardtaylor4362
@richardtaylor4362 7 жыл бұрын
Datguard Do you have any concept of what would be unleashed if eu becomes superstate?
@antifasarkeesian1467
@antifasarkeesian1467 7 жыл бұрын
... um ... no... btw nice logical fallacy you've got going there "if you're against that one thing you MUST be for that other thing." I'm anarchist, so I'm against both candidates and the general system they are in. although, I am a LOT more against Marine Le Pen bc globalised capitalism is still a long shot from actual fucking fascists in power... "Die sogenannte Kapitalismuskritik lässt sich auf den selten dummen Satz "Als Deutscher steht es mir zu, von einem Deutschen ausgebeutet zu werden." herunterbrechen." - Die Kanguru-Chroniken, Marc-Uwe Kling
@richardtaylor4362
@richardtaylor4362 7 жыл бұрын
Datguard Yay dodge question again, you are good at this one, not answering the questions, like many antifa you prefer to get get angry. It's funny how stupid you folks are, in one case you decreed on USA Inauguration Day it was a good day to trash Washington, one guy a small time limo owner had his limo destroyed by antifa arsonists, because they want to destroy the elites apparently, that bloke who owned the limo was a poor Muslim, go team!
@antifasarkeesian1467
@antifasarkeesian1467 7 жыл бұрын
i wasn't trying to answer your question here since you posed the same question to me twice in 2 different threads, so there's no point in answering it again here.. is that your pick up line or smth? You keep repeating as if it's a gospel or smth. I don't care about your conspiracy theory on how EU representatives are trying to take over the world. If you genuinely believe that the only option for peeps is to vote for fascism bc of the EU being problematic, then I honestly don't know how to help you. I mean, what do you actually KNOW about far-left politics, for example? What do you think/know anarchism or communism are? What do you think the term socialism stands for? Bc, I've engaged with your topics, so how about you maybe try the same with me? Isn't that what open discourse and free speech should enable?
@bananaboye2984
@bananaboye2984 5 жыл бұрын
Right-Leaning isnt instantly Far right you know...
@NeverRubARhubarb
@NeverRubARhubarb 5 жыл бұрын
You're clearly the expert. What is far-right?
@eddielin1997
@eddielin1997 2 жыл бұрын
Same round 1 result 5 years later lol. Except the fall of center right.
@BN33BN
@BN33BN 5 жыл бұрын
RIP France
@katharinedavis4947
@katharinedavis4947 5 жыл бұрын
We dont feel we are represented by the politicians. Just like in England then ! K
@rechtsvoorznraap4932
@rechtsvoorznraap4932 5 жыл бұрын
Deporation plz
@DCI-Frank-Burnside
@DCI-Frank-Burnside 7 жыл бұрын
I think maintaining a traditional identity is important for a country that gave us chocolate bread and sex.
@Danny-qq5nr
@Danny-qq5nr 5 жыл бұрын
We la Pen
@cherryberry6006
@cherryberry6006 5 жыл бұрын
They need a bath, or shower.
@BadCrazyGuy92
@BadCrazyGuy92 7 жыл бұрын
1:53 #Chemtrails ^^
@bbcisrubbish
@bbcisrubbish 5 жыл бұрын
I bet this a British produced programme. Hence the stupid jingle, jangle superimposed over the narrative.
@maddiewalsh9579
@maddiewalsh9579 7 жыл бұрын
Geopolitical analyst Lada Ray had also called for a Macron victory, for numerous reasons. She also called for Le Pen to run as a presidential candidate back in 2012! Fascinating predictions on Futuristrendcast: futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2017/05/06/especially-for-futuristrendcast-readers-lada-ray-final-french-election-prediction/
@MrTomtomtest
@MrTomtomtest 7 жыл бұрын
France is not Christian because the majority of people are atheists....................... Typical right wing nutjob, goes straight to religion as soon as you mention identity. That's what religions have been reduced to in Europe today: a stamp of identity stripped of any values or even moral. Not that it is a surprise given that all moderates left. Being French, in my opinion, is first and foremost recognizing the legacy of the Lumières which led to the French Revolution and our State of *Right* ( not beliefs, *RIGHTS* ). When you are trying to impose your beliefs upon us like you did by protesting against the gay *civil* marriage you are going against the very foundation of our State and fighting the very same fight against secularism that ISIS is. That we still have to fight this fight in 2017 is beyond me, next they are going to ask for monarchy back... Mark my words, History will not see you in a good light.
@rishwardat
@rishwardat 7 жыл бұрын
"France is a secular country" 10 seconds later "France is a Christian country" lel, make up your mind chauvinists
@Rose-hw9tf
@Rose-hw9tf 5 жыл бұрын
Kahebe 😁🤣🤣🤣
@cccedric8219
@cccedric8219 5 жыл бұрын
Go Lepen
@wrestlingbrian123
@wrestlingbrian123 7 жыл бұрын
Napoleon Bonaparte please come back to life and save France from these two sissy candidates.
@Belfry_pat
@Belfry_pat 7 жыл бұрын
Viva la France! Viva Macron!
@freespeech6999
@freespeech6999 6 жыл бұрын
Viva Africa del Norte! Viva Macron!
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