Marshall Origin 20 80's Tones

Can the Marshall Origin 20 get convincing 80s tones? Find out as I show it without and with drive pedals to get it there!
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[@dangitdan9938]

Nice! Have a combo 20w coming next week, a creamback sitting on my floor and a new set of Mullard el34s waiting as well. Might have to hit you up for some lessons at some point to boot. 🤘🏻😁🤘🏻

[@shredaintdead9323]

Awesome! [e-mail] when you're ready!

[@DJ33]

You probably did the best review for this amp, it doesn’t get much positive reviews. I’m on the look out for a used one to mod!!

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! It's pretty killer once you figure out the sweet spot to dial it in!

[@RByrne]

I just picked one up, and I'll be returning it. It sounds terrible, the attenuator is useless, and it's very cheaply made.

[@bozeeke]

Very interesting review/demo. I always thought that the JCM 800 or DSL were the best Marshalls for 80s hard rock (as well as those Valvestate Marshalls from back in the day for those on a budget). Since this series of amps is modelled on an old-school Plexi I figured this was strictly for 70's classic rock.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! I definitely think this is geared for 70s classic rock, but obviously it can easily do 80s too with a good overdrive. Much more versatile then people realize. Lots of 80s guys played Boosted plexis. Malmsteen, evh etc.

[@chrismartin6418]

Seems like a great value at that price point for someone who wants to push it with one of the eleventy billion boosts out there and dial in a cool custom tone. Good demo!

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! And absolutely!!!

[@gravelrocks5588]

Great price and option I didn't even know about that amp Sounds killer

[@shredaintdead9323]

Totally killer and the price is crazy good!

[@rodrigo.vs7]

All your videos are so Fuckn' Cool. Congrats man!

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks dude! Really appreciate it!!

[@JMTeBOCK08]

Glad to see some one else doing this. The two pedals I use to get that sound are a Wampler Tumnus and a MXR Timmy. It's a killer sound you will probably want a noise gate with that setup though.

[@ramen67234]

bro thank you so much you do the best reviews

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks!!

[@guitarist22lespaul90]

Hi Mr Shred Greg, you did a awesome job on Demo video. Thumbs 🆙.keep on Rocking dude.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks dude!!! Appreciate it!

[@guitarist22lespaul90]

@@shredaintdead9323 no problem. We got to keep 70s 80s guitar going.Rock Guitar is awesome and it Great Art Forum and People should appreciate a good guitarist and listen to bands and guitarist and Bassist and Drummer and the Singer and listen to lyrics and how band work together and they write great songs and hooks to make a great song and good top hit.

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@guitarist22lespaul90 totally agree on all of that dude! 👍

[@guitarist22lespaul90]

@@shredaintdead9323 and forgot a awesome guitar solo to.

[@robertsmith-ux8ls]

Great sound 👌

[@johnsguitarmusicanddemos]

You did a good demo. I think you are good at dialing in an amp even if it is a bad sounding amp. You can get it to sound good.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks dude!

[@user-pq8jj7cq1f]

I have a Marshall Origin 20 in the Combo version and I can easily get the sound and tone of hark rock, metal or glam metal from the 80s. I use a clean channel without the booster, I set the Fulltone OCD version V.2 stombox with the drive set to minimum, the tone at 1:00, the volume a little over half and the switch to the LP position. And before Fulltone OCD, I run Boss Super Overdrive SD-1 with the drive at 9:00, the tone at 12:00 and the volume at max. It gives a beautiful, singing tone typical of 80's music, I recommend it. You don't have to buy expensive, fancy Marshalls to get the sound of those times. In my opinion, the Marshall Origin 20 Combo works great for this type of music and, importantly, there is no need to modify this amplifier to get the pure distortion of the 1980s :).

[@billknudson7895]

Excellent demo. Very clear explanations and useful variations on the approach to adding more eighties-style gain to the amp’s stock tone. One word of advice for those of you who choose to use effects in the loop: it won’t work properly if the master volume is on 10, or thereabouts, especially if you’re using delay and/or reverb. While you’ll hear the effects, the sound won’t include the distortion in the mix. This drove me crazy until I lowered the master and cranked up the gain. Someone on one of the Marshall forums came to the same conclusion (Marshall’s tech support didn’t!). Even with those changes, I still got plenty of gain, to which I’d add a boost or overdrive for some extra zip. I absolutely love this amp. I’m currently playing it through a 1x12 cabinet containing an ancient Rola Celestion 8 ohm speaker. A sweeter sound would be tough to find.

[@Hammersmashedface09]

Cool demo! The power stem from high to low is actually 20 watts - 3 watts - 0.5 watts. Been digging your channel for a few weeks rock on!

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! And good to know! Appreciate it!

[@redstrat5976]

@@shredaintdead9323 did you use the 0.5 watt setting, how loud is the 0.5 watt for bedroom volumes when the gain and master cracked

[@shredaintdead9323]

@Red Strat59 I can't remember. Honestly this is one of the loudest amps in history of mankind even on the .5 setting. I had to use an attenuator for this demo since I lived in a condo at the time and had neighbors on all sides.

[@redstrat5976]

@@shredaintdead9323 thanks

[@redstrat5976]

@@shredaintdead9323 Also how did you connect your attenuator to the origin are you using the two notes torpedos?

[@huskybrutor9287]

I use an earthquaker arrows and blues driver for similar results. Biggest issue is the volume.

[@corndog1868]

Great demo! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks dude!!!

[@scottpeters4401]

I think this this sounded as good,if not better than Plexi demo you did…I think these Plexi and 800 style amps are great at 80’s tones,..You gotta remember,in the early 80’s there were no high gain amps by our standards today,so everyone was using old Plexi’s and 800’s to get “that sound”….great demo,sounded awesome…Now throw a chorus and delay in there,it’s the 80’s for Gods sake,LoL!!

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! I agree. These origin amps are insane value for money. Great stuff!

[@chickberth]

Cool tones and while I'm not really into 80's metal I love this amp. I've got the combo and I put a Celestion Greenback in it which I like better than the stock speaker but to be honest the stock wasn't bad at all. I wanted plexi-like Angus sound for studio recording and that's what I got. It's not a perfect match, there is no free lunch, but very pleased with the amp, suits my purposes. Hangs with my 1969 Princeton in terms of usability and fills in those gaps that Fender won't do. And now thanks to this vid I know how to cop that 80's feel if I need it, thanks!

[@shredaintdead9323]

It's a killer amp! Definitely capable of a ton of tones and versatility

[@DielectricFailure]

_Damn bro! 🌵 The guitar sounds great!_

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks!

[@riffsnoleads]

I have the 50h and really like it. It's no Peavey VTM but pretty great nonetheless. I recorded a viking/power metal song with it using absolutely no pedals (save for delay for the lead) and did not feel there was any lack of gain on tap with just the amp. I know it is often compared to a Plexi but I find it is a little more like the Bluesbreaker/JTM 45, which is still basically a Plexi but a bit less gain. Almost like Marshall used the JTM gain stage and the Plexi/JMP tone stack. To be fair, with the proper arrangement of pedals and patience, literally any amp can do any type of tone.

[@briannoojin1710]

Nice demo. I love that your channel explores those classic 80’s tones that I grew up on. Do you think someone could get the 80’s thrash sound with the right combo of pedals on this amp. I’m looking for a cheaper alternative to a JCM 800. Thanks

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! Honestly the dsl20 is what you're looking for. I have tons of demos and 80s tone vids on the channel about it. Its the perfect amp 80s and thrash Tones

[@melexdy]

It's affordable, sounds pretty good but not perfect, can go quiet, is versatile. Great review

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! It's great for the price for sure

[@drzecelectric4302]

Yeah man! Put a distortion plus into it like Randy!

[@slimturnpike]

Interesting. I pretty much detest 80s guitar tones and got the Origin to explore the pre-plexi, pre-jcm800 side of Marshall tone. I didn't realize it could do this, cool, nice job.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks!

[@MrBenolicious]

Sounds pretty good dude!! I own a mxr distortion plus pedal and was wondering if that amp could bring me in R Rhoads ballpark what do you think?

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! And yeah I think that could probably work just running into this amp set clean for sure!

[@tonya4157]

Heres the conclusion I've come to. In this wattage and price range(give or take a couple dollars or watts) there's this amp, a Blues Jr, a Blackstar and a Vox. Evidently Blues Jr's are biased to self destruct, Blackstars are part tube and part digital and I just don't like the sound of an AC15. A 20 watt DSL is $150 more. If you could find one in the US. So this is what I'm left with. It IS a Marshall, has plenty of power for my needs, it is a tube amp and, I think it sounds pretty damn good.

[@shredaintdead9323]

I have the same conclusion. I'm a bigger fan of the dsl20 personally. Much more versatile and 2 channels as well, but for the price, this amp is unbeatable!

[@donjohnson7550]

I bought the 50 head when it was still at 400 dollars, I’m glad I decided to spit coz other wise I would’ve spent like 200 more today. And well, I love it, it sounds just awesome

[@shredaintdead9323]

Yeah definitely been a lot of price hikes lately. Good thing you got it when you did!

[@jbbeaudry]

I have the 50h and love it. One thing though is that once you get the master past 8 it gets a little whooshy, like there’s air wanting to exit through a tiny hole (did I just write that ?) That same thing was present in your demo So I tend to keep master and gain around 7-8, no pull boost. On top I use a TS9, gain down, level up, which boosts the signal, tightens up the bottom end and adds extra mid colour that I can tame using the amp mid knob. All the rest is just playing with the guitar knobs. I am not into 80s tones, rather 70s and less gainy, but that combination, with guitar tone and volume knobs on 10 can get me in a territory close to early Metallica for instance. Not identical, but similar gain-ish mid-ish tones with lots of definition.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Yeah I totally agree with all of that

[@AngryTonesRiffClips]

Sounds great brother! Mick Mars vibes all day! Wait till you stack it with the Pepers Dirty Tree!

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks dude!

[@dimesciple1652]

I misread the title.. it’s NOT the CORGogin amp.🤪 On its own IMO sounded great no real need for boosty boost boost

[@shredaintdead9323]

You just wanted it to be the CORGogin amp! Haha. Yeah it's pretty good on its own, but everyone likes hearing boosty boosts on the youtubes and interwebs

[@hoosierdaddy2308]

Hey brother. It sounded great to me. Love the sd1 as a boost. Great head for the money man. You're in Denver. Wow. I lived in Aurora in 80, 81, 82. Colfax avenue was wild. 😂🤘❤️ Saw some great bands there. Some killer dive bar. Saw the cars, and several other bands. I also lived in Co Springs. Miss Colorado and all the beauty. Great video man. That head with an SD1 and a delay and I could probably do a gig. That guitar was interesting. Do you have a review of it? Killer looking. I ask because I'm wanting something with Stainless frets and I know Harley Benton makes some economical guitars with the same. I'm assuming that guitar has stainless frets. ? Thanks man. Have a great day and better week brother and keep rocking! 🤘❤️

[@shredaintdead9323]

Small world! And yeah I have a review of that guitar. Look up harley benton fusion ssp! And yes it does have stainless steel frets!

[@hoosierdaddy2308]

@@shredaintdead9323 Thanks man..

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@hoosierdaddy2308 sure thing 👍

[@almostliterally593]

Use an MXR distortion plus wiþ þe gain at 2 o clock & volume at max

[@russiangoose7053]

I have one of these I run with a wampler plexi drive mini front. I've heard one pull off ride the lightning style tones with a mini tube screamer too

[@shredaintdead9323]

Very cool!

[@prisonmike4971]

Had my Origin20h with the mx412ar cab for about a year and a half and I FUCKING LOVE IT. Takes pedals awesome through the fx loop but also, not bad direct in, just can get a little muddy. I also play mine with a Harley Benton TE-60

[@shredaintdead9323]

It's an awesome amp!

[@prisonmike4971]

@@shredaintdead9323 Totally agree. I've seen some people shit talk the amp and it makes no sense to me. This amp sounds better than some heads I have paid twice the amount for- this amp was such a steal I think.

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@prisonmike4971 I think it sounds better then the actual plexi that's 3 times the price and the origin has better features and controls. It's just cuz where they're made. People are dumb and still obsess over that. Who cares? Does it sound good? Yes. Then it's awesome!

[@prisonmike4971]

@@shredaintdead9323 PREACH MY GUY

[@sidsaylor]

Bought my ORI20h just for the 80's Rock and Metal tones. Just need some hot pups and an OD hitting the frontend just like they did it back then. Also some chorus, delay, reverb and maybe some phase or flange here and there and the Origin is a pure 80's Rocker. Nice Review and playing BTW! Long live the 80's \m/,

[@shredaintdead9323]

Awesome! And thanks dude! Enjoy your awesome amp and tones.

[@jordanmclean8254]

Its definitely a fun amp . The Boss Katana is another great amp at a similar price point.. You can get plexi tones if you dial them in right using the Boss Tone Studio

[@seanmorgan9020]

Nicely done, fella. You've got to check out Headfirst Amplifications mods, that Jason bloke did a whole host of killer mods.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! Yeah there's a TON of awesome mods for these heads

[@seanmorgan9020]

@@shredaintdead9323 Aye, I REAAALLY want to grab one at some point. Next purchase is the BKP Holy Diver though, coz the Nazgul ain't my thang anymore.

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@seanmorgan9020 You should check out my new signature pickup from voodoo! it will be out VERY soon. I have a video on the channel on it. Killer pickup!

[@stricknine8623]

For chord tones,..The "amp only" sounds best by a significant margin to me. The Marshall has plenty enough drive & gain...Most of the 80s tones were not nearly as high gain as some people think...Some of those guys were using a lot of gain but not most of them. Too much gain is not a good tone. Single note leads,..were also slightly the best through "amp only". I love this amp,..It is very close to the JTM 45 plexi-based expensive offering by Marshall..I have both. The Origin is a little more practical than the JTM but gives up a little bit in tone but not much.

[@rocknroll1973]

How close is the tone between origin and jtm45 you think?

[@stricknine8623]

@@rocknroll1973 The Origin is right there with a JTM 45 and an SV20....They are all categorically the same but are still a little different from each other. If you are looking for an AC/DC tone or just a fantastic Classic Rock tone,..You cannot go wrong with the Origin. Don't let the cost scare you.

[@rocknroll1973]

@@stricknine8623 I already own the original 50 lol. Had it about a month now. And a few years ago I had the origin 20 haha. I got rid of my jtm45 last year. I never got to compare them even when i had both of them. I only got the origin cause my jtm45 didn't arrive for my gig and I needed a cheap head fast cause I had a limited budget.

[@stricknine8623]

@@rocknroll1973 Well, then you should already know how good the Origin is for a Classic Rock tone like AC/DC, early Def Leppard and even a little bit more driven stuff is achievable plugged straight in.....It's good under the fingers as well.

[@rocknroll1973]

@@stricknine8623 oh yeah I play it for malcolm and clean tones, edge of breakup. Was just curious to see how close it was to a jtm45. They are similar. Jtm45: Preamp valves 2 x ECC83, 1 x ECC83 (phase splitter) Power amp valves 2 x 5881 Rectifier 1 x GZ34 Origin 50: Preamp valves 3 x ECC83 Power amp valves 2 x EL34

[@DavidOgletree]

I have Friedman BE OD. Would I need a super clean with that? Would using greenback speakers help as well?

[@shredaintdead9323]

No need. Be od has more then enough gain on tap! Thats all you need!

[@Marijan510]

I was just wondering how loud is it? Can you gig with it in smaller venues?

[@shredaintdead9323]

@Marijan510 it's INSANELY loud. One of the loudest amps I've ever played

[@scottnoricsson2023]

you keep Tilt quite high, that's bold, since it's actually a bright cap... which mic did you use to record this (great video btw, shows the good sides of this amp)

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! I used an sm57

[@scottnoricsson2023]

@@shredaintdead9323 my settings (apart from Gain and Master which are idnetical to yours) are much lower and Tilt is on zero, since in studio when close miking with sm57 and c414 - the sound came out too harsh... then again, I used Sd-1 with Gain and Level max and tone at 3 o'clock cause I have 2 Hs-3s in my Strat

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@scottnoricsson2023 yeah it really depends on your guitar, pickups, speaker and cab. My settings will only work generally but will have to be tweaked for each rig and person.

[@scottnoricsson2023]

@@shredaintdead9323 and plus, I have a combo 50w version

[@scottnoricsson2023]

@@shredaintdead9323 this is what is sounds like, recorded thru a phone, in mid power setting (skip to part 2 'cause it better showcases the sound), have a great one bro \m/ kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZSkmGtrfs-hqJY

[@DanieleRockGuitar]

If you do the mod then it gets even nastier without the need for pedals!

[@shredaintdead9323]

I've heard some of the mods for it and I totally agree!

[@DanieleRockGuitar]

@@shredaintdead9323 I believe that with the mod you can also get to the sounds of the guns

[@flyingrhoads]

Did I hear Megadeth Polaris at 7:00?? Love it

[@shredaintdead9323]

Sure did!!!

[@jamespowell1175]

You really need to start using your pinky, the major scale modes are a bitch with three fingers. That being said great demo, I was gifted an Origin 20, alot of good ideas. It's a difficult amp to 'dial in'.

[@MK-oz2lf]

Wonder what it would have sounded like with a RAT pedal instead of the clean boost with the TS in front of it. Does this amp have enough resonance for 90s metal?

[@shredaintdead9323]

I'm not a fan of rat style pedals so couldn't tell you. 90s would probably be pushing it. This is really a vintage amp circuit with modern features and controls. 80s yeah, anything heavier with more gain probably not.

[@UnchainedEruption]

Rust in Peace Polaris lick there, I recognize you

[@Kyush4]

sounds rad!! how are those bedroom tones?

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! They're pretty decent. It's a very loud amp, but you can still get pretty good bedroom level tones

[@Kyush4]

@@shredaintdead9323 better than the dsl20h?

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@Kyush4 no the dsl20 smokes it completely in every way, but this is pretty killer for less money

[@Kyush4]

@@shredaintdead9323 i mean on bedroom tones, considering it has the 0.5 watt reduction as opposed to the dsl20 it may sound fuller?

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@Kyush4 it's still insanely loud if you're trying to get these kind of tones at bedroom levels since you have to crank the gain and master to do it, the dsl20 is actually better in 10w mode since you don't have to crank the master or gain

[@tonyr669]

Its 20, 3 and .5 watts

[@bobosessbushcraftandsurviv4783]

Ok. I have a question I am looking for a good practice amp for in my basement. I am on the road a lot and hate lugging everything from the practice room we rent to my house just to be able to practice. Also my wife and I just had our first baby and I need something that don’t shack my neighbor’s house when I practice. I was looking into one of 3 amp. There was the Fender Bassbreaker 15 amp head (but it seems to have a lot of issues), the Marshall DSL20 or the Marshall Origin. I play 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s rock, hair metal and Thrash. I have plenty of pedals to push the sound if needed I just need to be quite now but still want the valve sound. I have about $900 to spend would prefer to stay around $700. I think the Bassbreaker is out unless someone knows for sure that have fixed the issue with the amp. But out of the two Marshall’s or if someone has another suggestion that would be great. Just think I’m to tired to think any more lol. Thanks for any help. Great vide just found your channel today. You have a new sub.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! Honestly this amp is wayyyy too loud for your needs. Look at the dsl20. It can be run in 10w mode. Demo vid on the channel. These plexi amps have are just insanely ungodly loud. Way too much for 90% of people

[@bobosessbushcraftandsurviv4783]

@@shredaintdead9323 just watch the DSL 20 vid it seems with it I might not need many of my pedals. Don’t know if that’s a good thing or not lol. Thank you for the suggestion. I did really want the Fender Bassbreaker but cannot see paying for something that has so many issues. I will be getting the DSL 20. Thanks again.

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@bobosessbushcraftandsurviv4783 sure thing!

[@kahlrhoam6769]

Well, that’s the BEST attempt I’ve ever heard, of getting that utterly shitty box of obviously drunk Marshall engineer’s worst ideas going. But the blanket still keeps dropping on it in regards of pick attack & palm muting. I once saw a guy throw his into the dumpster, (literally, I’m not making this up, except for the end of the story. Throwing it away was the end of it’s story.), & the horrid thing crawled out & followed him home because even the public dump wouldn’t accept it, either. You got some kind of magic, bro.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! I think? Lol

[@kalamazoousa4412]

Sold out..

[@shredaintdead9323]

Everywhere?

[@thedanksavatron7782]

Nissssssssssssssssssce 🍻

[@shredaintdead9323]

Indeed!

[@OLD_MAN_O_GAUGE]

You make it sound great, but I can tell from the demo it’s not the amp for me. When you have the skills you have every amp you play sounds good. I play the same amp with the same pedals and it sounds like garbage.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Haha thanks buddy. Yeah this amp won't be for everyone, but definitely for vintage amp lovers or more experienced players.

[@jonathanray4598]

The very first thing anyone who buys any Marshall amp is get rid of the cheap Chinese tubes! Get some good RCA preamp tubes and it quiets down any noise in the amp, and drastically improves tone and gain!!!

[@adamwatson6916]

In the 80s most marshal guys were using vintage style Marshall circuits sometimes wirh a mod gor more juice and/or a Boss SD1 DS1 Tube screamer MXR Distortioon plus or Ratt pedals so a vintage Marshall circuit on its own is not far off . Never really got the whole uh dude dont you know a marshall Pexi is blues amp or a grandpa rock amp . Its not supposed to play metal along with the your not supposed to play heavy rock on a les paul ? Why are you playing metal riffs on a Jazz guitar bro ? Even though all the first generation les paul players in the mid 60s were rockers because prior to 1965 very few people wanted the damn things . Jazzers didnt even like them for most part. They found them too heavy and thought the tone was muddy and too dark and also thought the pickups were too hot because the distorted the amps at a time where amps were low wattage with llittle headroom and loud cleans you coud hear in a band mix were the order of the day . If you got a 59 LP that happened to get one of those PAFs that was accidently wound to 8.5k plus when the target was 7.5 k and Most single coil fenders were 6k to 6.5k. Your 8.5k + humbucker woudl be like a flame thrower httimg your 15 watt amp . I remember Jimmy Page talking about Trying trying one of his Les Pauls through his litte supro combo and he said he decided not to use that combination because the world wasnt ready for that sound yet and said that the level of Distortion it produced was way ahead of its time and that was in the late 60s

[@88Nyman]

Every Marshall sounds 80'rock and metal when you put an DS1 front of it and lots of reverb with delay on solos😂

[@kakarotosama3571]

0:43 hahahahahaha Hahahaha😂🤣😆

[@shredaintdead9323]

I know it's the best cuz it's true haha