Martin Rees - The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss - FULL VIDEO

[@quantumsoup2200]

I enjoy these interviews but I find guests always have too little time to answer questions and express themselves without interruptions. Having said that, I am always impressed with Lawrence how he’s not afraid to ask difficult questions and challenge people no matter how “important” or famous those people are.

[@tatotato85]

Some amazing quality on this podcast to say nothing of the guests. Heres hoping youtube algorithm catches on and this become popular.

[@marblecat8525]

funbot has p o

[@sadoxell5462]

I'm obsessed with your channel. Please keep this up

[@angelajgreenlee]

Wonderful content! I'm such a fan! I adore Martin as well. Please have him back soon!

[@Astronomater]

Love Sir Martin Rees. have him back again!

[@SCQT]

What a lovely human Have been absolutely loving this podcast so far Keep em comin! Many thanks, much appreciation

[@jancurtis8382]

Thank you. I really enjoyed the interview

[@spanatko]

wow what great great content!!!! thank you very much

[@ikaeksen]

Its a discussion not an intrview get it lawrence bashers!!

[@oldtimer7635]

Very one sided "discussion"!

[@keitharnold4715]

Lawrence, if you invite a guest into the studio you need to let them speak.

[@seanh4841]

A silver lining finding this excellent channel in the Corona Virus

[@gopherstate777]

Mr. Krauss, I enjoy your insight and watch as much content about you as I can that is carried by KZbin. I don't know if you and I agree on anything at all, and I really don't care if we agree because I still thoroughly enjoy your points of view. Whether I agree with you or not.

[@Hashishin13]

I don't understand how he can say he has no personal beliefs in dogma, believes individual rights that violate religious law and then go on to accuse someone of "promoting atheism" like its a bad thing? He admits the major religions are promoting ideas that aren't in line with reality, actively holding back our understanding of the world and then says we shouldn't attack these institutions?

[@symmetrie_bruch]

i think he is a believer but is too embarassed to admit it. and this nonsense of his you point out is a product of a cognitive dissonant mind too old to change.

[@ActionAlligator]

@@symmetrie_bruch Mmmm, I wouldn't go into mind-read-y territory; I don't think that's fair to him to completely go against what he's saying he believes. It may just be that he _used_ to believe those things, he knows and cares deeply for people who _still_ believe those things, he holds a great deal of value in the culture and institution of religion, and maybe he just feels personally attacked on their behalf or something? I think Krauss was a tiny bit aggressive and confrontational when he brought the topic up tbh, and that only puts people on the defensive and increases the chance they're going to be irrational, but I do overall agree with Krauss; however, I also think I have some understanding of Rees's point of view.

[@sbs2047]

_"He admits the major religions are promoting ideas that aren't in line with reality, actively holding back our understanding of the world and then says we shouldn't attack these institutions?"_ It is because he, unlike most modern intellectuals, has experience enough to realize that religions are designed to thrive on adversity. The more you attack the most sacred beliefs of any people, the more you trigger their "persecution complex", and inevitably end up making them even more deeply entrenched in their obsolete and absurd belief systems. So one has to ask oneself the question, "why do I feel inclined to attack someone's beliefs?" Is it because I actually hope the target of my verbal attack becomes more educated (which any student of applied human psychology is going to tell you, would be impossible, you can NEVER teach someone or convince someone by hurting their feelings, period), or is it because I just want to feel good with myself by stomping someone with my intellectual superiority. Because then all you are doing is creating a pavlovian avoidance in that person's mind against avant-garde knowledge, and consequently impeding human development. Hence, at some point an enlightened individual has to decide what is more important; the greater good of humanity, or his/her own fragile ego.

[@moonlandingagain3228]

Fuck religion

[@sspbrazil]

I like that Martin pushes back on Krauss’s stance on religious beliefs and I think his approach is actually more humanistic.

[@seanh4841]

How prophetic, Lord Martin Rees talks about a global pandemic which tears society apart. Wow

[@topdog5252]

Great conversation!

[@alastaircole647]

I would reinforce a point that has been made. This is not an interview in the sense of questions followed by the answers and ruminations of the 'guest'; it is rather a free-flowing discussion which makes the overall effect significantly more satisfying. I don't think Krauss is interrupting, rather he is engaging with his guest and structuring their discourse on personal and complicated subjects in a way that provides a helpful coherence to the whole. I really don't think that the idea is to provide an opportunity for the guest to produce what would be, in effect, a lecture. Plenty of other opportunities online to listen to Lord Rees and many of the other Krauss guests delivering fascinating lectures.

[@andrewpickering5180]

I have only thought of Lord Rees as a product of his status in the political world, another mind upgrading for me. Thank you Lord and Master of all origins podcasts. ( see Irony).

[@robertmcclintock8701]

Everytime an artist make something social and intelligent it has artistic integrity. That only possible in a created universe.

[@fifthape2119]

Martin Rees is a brilliant man but in regards to religion, he's blind. He's admits of some of the enormous harm that religion causes, yet he says that the benefit of religion outweighs the harm. It's too bad that he didn't mention the even greater benefit that religion provides; I'd like to know. He said that we shouldn't rubbish religion. Actually, it's our duty to expose religion for the enormous harm that it causes. How could any benefits of religion outweigh: the lack of independently verifiable, falsifiable evidence (Scientific evidence -- the man is a Scientist!); sexual molestation of children by the church and the cover-ups of wrongdoings; fear of eternal torture; corruption; and promoting violence against those outside the in-group? He reads technical journals. Has he read the bible to see how poorly it was written? The world needs more people who are fully aware of religion, like Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss.

[@steveshorter]

I thought he was incredibly disrespectful calling the likes of Harris, Dawkins and Hitchens undergraduates.

[@IbrahimHoldsForth]

@@steveshorter It was a well-deserved and funny jibe.

[@moonlandingagain3228]

The church is for pedophile assholes

[@edwardjones2202]

It gives meaning to the lives of a lot of people. It's impossible to find the net benefit Steven Weinberg said for good people to do bad requires religion.. Freeman Dyson's retort was that for bad people to do good requires religion It was just a quip but makes the point

[@chriswhitt6685]

Two tier viewing. Patreon, such a yukky thing. The haves and have nots. Besides that, I enjoyed this tremendously.

[@iahmmei1849]

two tier education ... tisk tisk

[@pseudonayme7717]

Hey! It's Cave Johnson 😁 "If life gives you lemons, say no! I don't want your stupid lemons! Make life take the lemons back!" 🤨

[@thegraphicsfactory]

Lawrence needed to dial back his talking over Martins' attempts to answer the questions

[@alecmisra4964]

Presumably if the universe went through an expanding and contracting phase the hubble constant would vary between plus and minus values netting out at zero, which is probably the case (but intrinsically uncertain at any given point).

[@tancdiscovery9432]

Lawrence give your interviewee a chance to speak! Deary me.

[@stevenaustin8274]

He did you just weren’t paying attention ! yes he’s more energetic which is to be expected given the age gap

[@reimannx33]

Shut up , lawrence !! Annoying when you interrupt so much. Was it not enough to get the boot from your previous place?

[@paxmule]

He loves the sound of his own voice - obviously!

[@johncutler2099]

Had to stop listening and look for Rees on another channel. Last Origins I looked at Kraus was good and let guest speak.

[@artk6017]

Lawrence, why you invite someone if you mostly speak? Bit disapointed not to have chance to hear Rees.

[@nemethzsigmond4548]

...and Rees mentions in las December: "If there was an epidemic in our current society... breakdown! "(misquted) Near the end, 1:19... And 3 months later, here it is!

[@paxmule]

exactly

[@karagi101]

Why can’t Lawrence let his guest speak?

[@leonardniamh]

I just loved this Two beautiful people

[@alecmisra4964]

String theory resembles the origins of atomic theory in the sense that atomic theory looked hopelessly metaphysical for two millenia even as logic and evidence kept mounting in its favour. Aristotle was the first to note that the atomic theory represented a logical response to Parmenides and the paradoxes of Zeno. This was the driver of the hypothesis not just random musings. Good stuff!

[@jake_runs_the_world]

Spot on about COVID

[@stonehouseguitars3869]

Wow, I'm sorry, but I simply cannot respect anyone who would call Christopher hitchens a small timer or describe his dialogue as undergraduate discussion in a disparaging tone of voice. If anyone doesn't have the right to talk about these issues, it's Lawrence krauss, someone without a background in any of them, and yet here is this daughtering old fart being interviewed on his show and therefore paying up all the undeserved respect anyways.

[@phasespace4700]

Hitchens was a pathological liar and kook.

[@jpick319]

"We and the biosphere are the outcome of more than four billion years of evolution, but most people still somehow think we humans are necessarily the culmination of the evolutionary tree. That's not so. Our Sun is less than half way through its life. We're maybe only the half way stage. Any creatures witnessing the Sun's demise 6 billion years hence won't be human - they'll be as different from us as we are from bacteria." -Martin Rees, Dark Materials

[@edwardjones2202]

"wannabe Bertrand Russells" haha great line. Enjoyed his punchiness here. I'm an atheist and enjoy Krauss but the needle in the discussion was enjoyable

[@lauramarkee5536]

Religious freedom can be respected but religious dogma and superstitions should naught. Those cathedrals that Rees admires for their beauty were built on the back breaking labor of the poor with the threat of an angry god and the fear of avoiding the fate of hell.

[@johnwayne1995]

I felt sorry for Lord Martin Rees. He thought that Lawrence Krauss is gonna interview him but soon he realized that Lawrence Krauss invited him only to listen his lecture. Lawrence Krauss is so self oriented and so in love with his own voice that this was hard to watch....even painful. Lord Martin Rees is perfect English gentleman so he made it to the end as a gentleman but we could feel his regret on wasted time. Also interesting how Mr. Krauss can be so elaborate against Pope on his stands against homosexuality but as a Jew he did not feel need to say a single word about stand of judeism on homosexuality?? This is not in any way some antisemitic statement but I most of the religions are against homosexuality but somehow in public discussions it always only mentioned Christianity. Why when Judaism is against, Islam is against, etc.

[@pfscpublic]

Baron Rees of Ludlow often can't get a word in edgeways, Lawrence does like to dominate the microphone 😂🤣

[@homebrew010homebrew3]

Meh, not too bad. Neil D Tyson is MUCH MUCH better at interrupting and ruining conversation.

[@zumamaya2396]

I just interpret that as enthusiasm - they enjoy their subject. Only an onlooker would be sensitive to the interruptions in my opinion. For a non-Scientist I find this accessible and inspiring.

[@XxxcloackndaggerxxX]

Makes me think is Krauss using cocaine!

[@pfscpublic]

@@zumamaya2396 Depends if you want a monologue or a dialogue, personal preference of course Zuma

[@wesmahan4757]

@@zumamaya2396 EXACTLY. Thank you!

[@b1heqh54]

Thank you from the masses. This is access that previously only the advantage of privilege could afford. This is what will change the world.

[@edwardjones2202]

It's in books - has been for years

[@b1heqh54]

@@edwardjones2202 books cost money

[@nuqwestr]

"Sin" is to "miss the mark", the sheep are missing the mark, but quite possibly by their actions preserving the future of the herd. Perhaps this is a fertile ground for study, no small pun intended.

[@ivancarlson953]

Please let your guest talk.

[@AdamFunnell]

I enjoyed this conversation. At no point did I feel Lawrence was talking over his guest.

[@paxmule]

Larry, is this you?

[@dizzytitan8481]

We didn't watch the same podcast 🤣 every question had interruptions from lawerance

[@WyreForestBiker]

Started well ... then degenerated into Rees listening to Krauss for 80% of the time as usual . Such a shame .

[@user-zp9br7jk9k]

yeah... i hope he is reading the countless comments on this... he's a smart man, but we are here for his guests voices as well... if not more.

[@woody7652]

Three at once. Cheers, Larry!

[@corydorastube]

I'd pay money to see you call him "Larry" to his face.

[@jasonlehfeldt1577]

I finally understand why I’m too old to understand TikTok.

[@kapanavi]

I sense a bit of tension in the last 10 second of the conversion.

[@VeryLikeLeigh]

Mr. Rees says... We haven't even talked about space ... and I thought, what the hell have they been talking about?? haha.

[@Paul.Morgan]

Finally at 1:09:20 "I want to focus on you now".

[@earlofdoncaster5018]

What's wrong with economics? Lawrence should should interview Mark Blyth.

[@corydorastube]

When you ask six physicists a question you do not get seven different answers.

[@earlofdoncaster5018]

@@corydorastube Depends on the question.

[@ferriveiro3101]

I wonder if Lord Martin Rees would feel the same about religion and the population in Africa if he actually went there and saw first hand the absolute poverty and misery of hundreds of millions of people. Religion isn't just the cosy, weakened, cultural Christianity of Western Europe. In many parts of the world it manifests itself in much more sinister ways and I believe we should fight superstition wherever we meet it.

[@indricotherium4802]

Rees is a great writer and thinker but Krauss did expose a little area of discomfort on religion. Krauss is probably not aware, in the UK's archaic political system the House of Lords has places reserved for religious leaders. So, anyone choosing to accept patronage buys into the Establishment position. Rebellious and atheistic expressiveness don't go with the territory.

[@moonlandingagain3228]

The church is for pedophile assholes

[@stansolo4138]

interview is nice and civil .... but only gets interesting when they disagree

[@TheGreatAlan75]

They say we have 266 ,or so , Mars meteors here on earth (or something like that..) which I find ridiculous because of the distance..

[@blaster-zy7xx]

Dude, your job is to get your guest to talk and tell us a a story, NOT to jump in, interup and cut them off incecently. Learn to SFTU!!!

[@jobrunnandong4346]

The host talked too much and gave little time to guest to speak.

[@dorwood73]

This bloke was doing quite well until he committed blasphemy in the form of his critique of the four horsemen... and Lawrence, you know none of them consider themselves 'new' athiests.

[@Brian.001]

No, no - he didn't hone in. He homed in.

[@paxmule]

1:19:23 - Pre-pandemic - this guy must be psychic!

[@plasticvision6355]

His comment on hospitals being overwhelmed was especially insightful as that prospect is precisely what has underpinned various nations responses to the Covid-19 pandemic!

[@oldtimer7635]

I would love to hear more Rees´s ideas than Lawrence´s. Once again Krauss is unable to provide space for his guest, pity. I think Shermer did very much better job when talking with Rees. Obviously their topics were slightly different.

[@magnetospin]

A scientist that actively engage in politics is something that doesn't exist in the US.

[@mauriziochina]

Mr Krawss i clicked on this video to listen Rees opinions, but you talked 90% of the time... It seems you are interested only to make your points...

[@markkururangi7846]

Lawrence you interrupt way too much!

[@DenisAketch]

Hahah well then you have not heard or seen Neil DeGress Tyson....interrupts in an astronomical scale.

[@markkururangi7846]

@@DenisAketch No, I’ve seen Degrasse Tyson as well Lol

[@josegaleano1530]

It is sad that Martin is inteligent and still belives on magic

[@worldpeacepatriot9448]

Well perhaps these so called religious leaders can emphasize common ideals , values and viewpoints , but they can do all that and more without the dogmas , restrictive doctrines and obtrusive narrow modalities , rituals and nonsensical traditions that have evolved over many centuries from bronze age shamans , rabbis and priests ! The pursuit of truth ought always be paramount toward evolving a global enlightened civilization !

[@robertmcclintock8701]

If universe is social it's certain to produce a God.

[@MarkVeltzer]

Rees' rant against the new atherists is totally out of place. I did not find Russel any better on these points and I think the only reason Rees is against them is becuase he is very much a part of the establishment and therefor very non fonfrontational. This actually hurts his reasoning...

[@Les537]

I would argue that the young make better music, at least in rock and roll. Examples abound, the stones are still playing and haven't made a good song in 30 years, but in their youth they couldn't help writing good songs all day. Same for just about ever rock musician - after 30 they dry up.

[@IbrahimHoldsForth]

I like Mr. Rees's (I hate the appellate "Sir") take on religion. Fact of the matter is that the "new atheists" WERE obnoxious and and Mr. Krauss was associated with them. Rootlessness and anomie is the end point of Krauss's point of view. There are more than quite a few Christian pastors and priests who don't *really* have believe but stick to religion because of the social and community element and I so sympathize with those people (and people of other faiths like them -- I am an agnostic Somali). On the other hand, people not having the guts to stand up to religious loons or make fun of them is why Somalia is having a hard-time dealing with the terrorist organization Al-Shabaab which uses religious brain-washing to convince young men to blow themselves up in restaurants and markets. The fundamentals of what the Al-Shabaab sheik preaches are implicit in what the regular sheik preaches, so Somali society is logically trapped when it comes to answering Al-Shabaab's ideology. In my country of origin one can see the glory of religion and all its faults. The people have "embeddedness" and are free from the sort of anomie and existential anxieties that plague the individualistic West. On the other hand, they appear helpless in mounting an ideological response to regressive koran-literalist authoritarian murderous lunatics.

[@twntwrs]

Ah, yes, we can't have "obnoxious" in the face of amputations, decapitations, stonings, genital mutilation, subjugation of women to men, child brides, and all the rest of it.

[@robertmcclintock8701]

Oaths end with so help me God. God does reveal himself to people but only if he can be perfectly moral about it.

[@gregorybradley1160]

Lawrence, do u realy need 2 confirm 2 us tha ur listening 2 yur interviewee, by saying 'ahauh' every 5 seconds, a bit like a duck quacking, it's distracting and interrupting fr a listeners point of view. Especially w an interviewee such as Lord Martin Rees. No chance of u replying 2 this ...like do u even agree.. .?

[@wulfrigjones9765]

Wow this could be seen as awkward.

[@robertmcclintock8701]

If you love the universe the birds will make you mentally ill so you fight with the environment to make it intelligent. Your supposed to make the environment intelligent so no God needed. God has been liberated and he is fully capable of evolving himself without any help. God don't want your worship he just wants to get married. Royal weddings is most watched thing on television. We fixed the video and audio for best experience possible. Cameras are supernatural and all of them captured 3D. The audio loud don't make violence so has depth. Nobody has to buy anything for it to work.

[@worldpeacepatriot9448]

The term " new atheists " is just a reference to a new crop of secular non believers in a theistic agency called God ! New atheist could include Dawkins , Yourself , Harris , Dillahunty , O'Conner and many others who are infusing a more coherent , energetic and intelligent discussion on the subject of religions and challenging epistemological claims on the various beliefs !

[@derdagian1]

You’re doing well, Lawrence. You were about shaped like a railroad spike when we found each other, and after some efforts, you got sharp like a blade. I heated, pounded flat . Added heat and bigger bangs... Neither of us would be as broad in our base of knowledge. I learned everything right from you guys. Thank You! Except for the umbilical hernia that I popped LAUGHING! Krauss picked a fight with me!Ee😁

[@intlprofs]

Does Krauss ever shut up?

[@missnellaful]

If Dr. J. PETERSON WAS THERE HE WOULD. HE IS NOT WELL SPOKEN, OR POLITE.

[@grayzytube]

Population expansion in Africa is only a problem if it emulates Western consumption of energy and resources. If it is possible as Musk says to power the US with a 1000s m solar farm and a 1sq m battery then energy isn't so much of a problem. However, the planet does not have the resources to achieve a consumer led, buy more this year than last and throw the old in landfill societies the West currently follows. Preaching the mantra of build better, longer lasting products that are repairable and buy less is not acceptable to neoliberal corporations who want the opposite.

[@CandidDate]

Martin Short.

[@ivancarlson953]

Astronomer Royale?

[@paxmule]

Royalle with cheese!

[@60-second-HACKS]

Dear Lawrence, I'm a big admirer. Love your podcast. BUT ... Please take a deep breath and calm down. In some of your interviews you push the guest so hard and fast that they can barely get a sentence out. This podcast with Sir Martin Rees, for example, is excruciating to listen to in parts. Report card: Young Lawrie shows great promise, but can do better. He should take his ADD medication every day and give the other boys and girls a chance to speak without pressuring them unnecessarily. A kind-hearted boy whose eagerness to learn and contribute sometimes leads to impatience.

[@OneFinalTipple]

Love Martin Reese, but his scorn laid on Dawkins, Dennett, Harris and Hitchens (four Horseman) is tantamount to childish mud throwing. Thought he was better than this.

[@phasespace4700]

No, he's right.