Are Stun Guns Good for Self-Defense? Shock Cane & Stun Baton Tested!

[@MelanieWebster-sw3wf]

It was hard to hold the camera steady while laughing so hard! Hope everyone enjoys the video 😎 - Melanie

[@Karatemart]

It turned out great! Thanks Mel!

[@DShiflet01]

Nothing against the new folks, but good to see Kyle and Amanda back on the channel.

[@Karatemart]

Thanks brother! I had a lot of fun coming back to do this video! I really appreciate all your support over the years. It means a lot to me!

[@Tuna5908]

Yup. I agree

[@beeh3882]

Yeah! The new people are ok but the original Kyle and Amanda are #1 to me. More detailed.

[@Tuna5908]

@@beeh3882 It just feels normal. Maybe the new people should be flown out to the regular place and collab side by side or vice versa on the traveling...basically blend them all together, and that might liven up things. Blend their styles together a bit.

[@DeezyP]

Glad to see Kyle and Amanda back on the channel! I know y'all are busy with other things, but it definitely makes it feel more special.

[@Karatemart]

Thank you, my friend! I really appreciate that! Thanks so much for all your support! It means a lot to me!

[@tonywalkingstick8883]

It's great to see you back, Kyle. And really enjoyed your guest. Thank you for busting the myth about dual shocking two people at once. And Amanda laughing 😂kept me laughing. Hope y'all recover quickly and well.

[@Karatemart]

Thanks brother! It took a couple of hours to get past the anxiety of getting shocked so many times, but we are all doing great! You’re the best, Tony! Thanks so much for all your support!

[@thegrumpyoldguy]

Don't know if they're good for self defense but I do know they seem to brighten Amanda's day, and seem to wake up Kyle better than a cup of double caf dark roast.

[@Karatemart]

Hahahaha! Very true, my friend! It definitely woke me up! I hope your year is going awesome, my brother!

[@kevincoggeshall3079]

Great video I loved it really fun loved the stun guns and it was great seeing you again Kyle, again awesome video

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Kevin! I had a lot of fun making it! I hope you are having an awesome week, my friend!

[@zdravkostankov255]

Kyle and Amanda are absolutely stunning duet....And this Chanel its not the same without them ❤

[@Karatemart]

Thank you, my friend! That means a lot to me! I hope you are having an awesome week!

[@ObservantPiratePlus]

Great to see the old gang again! I have two of those stun canes, and it was awesome to see you guys make the great sacrifice to demo them in use. I had to use one of them once, to protect my wife and myself, walking home from a local venue, and I never had to touch it to the guy, as the arcing and crackle was sufficient to make him back the hell off. The cane gets my vote!

[@Karatemart]

Thanks brother! It was a lot of fun making the video! I’ve heard similar stories from many people who stated that the sound and spark alone were enough to diffuse the situation. I’m so glad that worked for you. Have an awesome week, my friend!

[@greenevegiebeast]

How well does the cane take an impact??

[@Karatemart]

It seems to be very durable, but I personally wouldn’t use it for striking because I’d be worried about damaging the electrodes. Thanks so much for watching! I really appreciate it!

[@marksandsmith6778]

Great to get the band back together AND stun guns With Amanda laughing her head off 😂😅😊

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Mark! Other than the stress of getting stunned, this was a really fun video to make. I really appreciate your support, my friend!

[@kylerogerspowers2935]

Ha they are good. They are very electrifying. Have a blessed week.

[@Karatemart]

Thanks my brother Kyle! I hope you have a blessed week as well, my friend!

[@Pbadome1]

Ian, welcome back, you too are better than Laurel and Hardey, and Ian is a real ***Buster. Great chemistry between you two, I like that Ian is a masochist when you're testing stun guns, well, at least the first one. "Oh Geez", Kyle that never gets old and running from Amanda, c'mon, she's just a girl, well with a million volts, but Ian held you still. Great to see the gang again. Happy New Year! One more thing, I like the cane because it's also a short staff.

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Phil! I really appreciate all the kind words! It was a lot of fun getting back on video…especially with Ian and Amanda. Thanks so much for all your support, my friend! I hope you have an awesome week!

[@Tuna5908]

100%

[@donaldswartz1556]

Fun with stun guns, great video!! Thanks Kyle and Co. 👍✌️

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Donald! I really appreciate that! I hope you are having an awesome week, my friend!

[@greenevegiebeast]

Kyle, if you get shocked many more times. You might go cousin Fester on us and start lighting light bulbs...😊

[@Karatemart]

Hahahaha! Awesome comment! I hope you are having an excellent week, my friend! I really appreciate all your support!

[@BigBenzBizarreBazaar]

I usually go out weather permitting with a cane I wonder if the stun cane would work for me? I’m disabled and walk with limp so I use the cane to walk outdoors for balance and endurance….

[@Karatemart]

It might! It’s a pretty great cane. Thanks so much for watching!

[@jamigordon-realtor]

Great video! Thank you for showing several options- extremely helpful! Sounds relaxing 🤣😂

[@Karatemart]

Lol…thanks Cousin! It was definitely not relaxing!

[@Kirilldin]

Good to see you Kyle! Nice weapons!

[@Karatemart]

Thank you so much! I hope you had an awesome weekend!

[@Theoneloneshadow]

First time we’ve ever heard a curse word on your channel. Great to see Ian again, awesome to see you Kyle. You guys are one helluva duo

[@Karatemart]

Thanks brother! Yeah, we had to completely bleep the curse word! It was a fun video to make though!

[@ModernHippieAirgunner]

Good to see you Kyle...that was awesome! All the stun guns were dope this week my man 👊💯

[@Karatemart]

Thanks brother! I appreciate that! It was fun to be back on video! I hope you are having an awesome week, my friend!

[@theghostknife3214]

Fantastic to see Kyle and Amanda back !

[@Karatemart]

Thank you, my friend! I really appreciate that! I hope you are having an awesome week!

[@VTPSTTU]

Thanks for another Weapons Wednesday! I don't see a poll in the community tab, so I'll put all of my comments and questions here. My first question was whether any of these left marks on you either immediately after filming or in the day or so afterwards. I assumed that you filmed a day or two early. (Using the term "filming" makes me sound old.) That you smelled burning flesh from the use of the third one makes me wonder whether Ian developed a burn on his shoulder. Are marks or burns less likely with some stun guns and not others? Are they less likely through some kind of clothing? Does clothing thickness matter? I've watched some videos about the Jonbenet Ramsey murder over the past few months. I know that she had two burns on her skin and that people hypothesized that they were from some similar weapon. Most people believe that weapon was made to render her unconscious. If so, that might be a Taser rather than a stun gun, and if I understand correctly, those are different weapons. I'm fairly certain that you have covered that difference in previous videos. I typically haven't liked stun guns because I don't like anything that relies on electronics. Rechargeable batteries eventually go dead. Humid environments will eventually cause some kind of degradation of wires, capacitors, and connections. From a survivalist point of view, anything that requires power is going to be useful only for a short period of time if the grid goes down. I don't like something that can be used quite so easily as a torture device if taken from me. I realize that the other side of the coin is that one doesn't need a great deal of strength and in some cases not even a great deal of quickness to use a stun gun effectively. An impact weapon still depends on the ability to swing with enough force to produce a good impact. The weapon multiplies the defender's natural force, but multiplying something very small still results in something small. Likewise, I knife still requires the quickness to make an effective cut or thrust. A moderately skilled, determined attacker may gladly trade a cut on the knuckles to get close and do harm. With a stun gun, the electricity convulses the attacker's muscles and keeps the attacker from being able to control that part of his (or even her) body for at least a short period of time. Some attackers may not be that deterred by the pain, but the forced convulsion of a hand, arm, or leg might stop the attacker from accomplishing whatever harm he intends. I asked about the marks on your skin because I realized for the first time that a tool that doesn't leave a mark could help someone with the legal aftermath of a self-defense action. Deep cuts and blood on body cam footage could be used by a corrupt prosecutor or liability lawyer. Likewise, deep bruises or broken bones could be used by corrupt lawyers to pretend that the forced used against the attacker was wrong. Granted, if I'm on the jury, nothing the defender does is going to lead me to vote "guilty" or "liable" for whatever happens to an attacker, but not every jury will have someone who is strongly in favor of self defense. On top of that, my health issues might keep me from serving on a jury. If the stun gun leaves no visible marks, corrupt lawyers are less likely to be successful in prosecuting or suing someone who uses a stun gun in self-defense. In terms of these specific tools, a few thoughts come to mind. The Hammer Fist Stun Gun looks handy and useful. A person could carry one of those without anyone really noticing. A holster would be more useful than the bag that they give, but even without a holster, this tool could be put in a pocket or purse. I'd love a safety to keep the light or stun gun from being activated accidentally in a pocket. I would advertise the spike as a glass breaker rather than a self-defense tool. I'm sure it would break out a window effectively to get out of a sinking car or burning building. The metal tip really wouldn't be necessary for self-defense. A similar polymer tip would work just as well in that application. The writing pen seems a little silly. Writing with that thing would be difficult, and adding threads to the spike so that the pen is accessible seems to be an expense that doesn't bring any real benefit. If I were going to have a threaded spike that could be removed, I'd put a whistle or fire starter in that spot. The whistle would have value in an urban setting to bring help or even in a wilderness setting. The fire starter would be mostly a survivalist perk. If the manufacturer really wanted to get fancy, the spike would unscrew to pull out a small solar panel that would allow the user to charge the battery when USB power isn't available. The Self-Defense Stun Baton has always been a cool weapon. I like that it's not too big although no one could really carry one in a pocket. Backpack carry would be easy, and purse carry would be feasible with larger purses. Even without power, this tool can be an effective blunt force tool for self-defense. I don't think that carry clip would hold well if someone were engaged in vigorous activity, but for casual movement, the clip would hold well and allows quick access as demonstrated. The Self-Defense Stun Cane is interesting but less appealing to me. As someone who uses a cane, I prefer a cane that is a little less conspicuous. I tend to bump the bottom end of my cane into things, and I worry that the electrodes would be damaged over time. I also think that someone who was quick and skilled would have a better chance of grabbing the cane above the electrodes. Then, I'd be in a battle for control of a cane that I would be afraid to grip neat the base. The light on the handle is cute, but I don't see it as being positioned in a way that would be very helpful. The situation where this one might be most helpful would be defense against aggressive dogs. I've run into a few dogs that were nasty, and shocking one of them with the end of this cane could solve a real problem.

[@Karatemart]

You make some really excellent points! As for your questions…after the video, I did take some time to examine myself for markings. My arm was a little red, but I think that was caused by Ian striking me with the stun baton and not by the electricity. I believe that the burning smell we smelled was from Ian’s hair burning, but we didn’t see any burn marks on his skin. The main after effect I noticed is that my anxiety and heart-rate were up for about 2 hours after the video. But, that could have been related to the stress involved in being on camera and being stunned. Have an awesome week, my friend!

[@VTPSTTU]

@@Karatemart Thanks!

[@hanelyp1]

I've been reading some technical material relevant to this topic, "HUMAN RESPONSES TO ELECTRICITY: A LITERATURE REVIEW". in summary: - effect is mostly an function of pulse energy and frequency, with a peak around 50 Hz. - peak voltage that can be delivered has little impact. Electrode area or longer pulses can deliver the same effect with lower voltage. The high voltage and pointed electrodes used by tasers are favored only for arcing through the air or poking through clothing when good electrode contact can't otherwise be made.

[@Karatemart]

That’s very interesting! Thanks so much for watching! I really appreciate it!

[@MichaelRoachDavid]

🎉, awesome video

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Michael! I hope you are having an awesome week, my friend!

[@felixtube71]

Is there a stun baton exactly like the cane? The ones I saw on your site had the shock on the ends instead of the side this would be great if you could convert it to a baton. The handle on cane seems awkward to use to swing and shock at the same time.

[@Karatemart]

Hi! The closest stun baton to the cane would be the “anti-grab stun baton”, which has shock strips on the sides as well as the end. I hope that helps! Thanks so much for watching!

[@felixtube71]

@@Karatemart Are there a few bands or just 2? I did see how powerful that one was in another one of your videos. I just like the blanket like touch of the cane. But with that kind of power maybe it doesnt matter.

[@abrahamhernandez5686]

😊 Good afternoon everyone great 👍 episode 🎉

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Abraham! I really appreciate your support, my friend! I hope you are having an awesome week!

[@MikeNewman-ss3kq]

My all-time favorite from KarateMart. Not because of the pain inflected, but because you two were a riot to watch. You need to do more videos together! Fyi, this one is not showing (at least for me) in the community tab.

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Mike! That's really nice of you! I have a lot of fun making videos with Ian and Amanda! You're right...we forgot to add the community tab poll this week. I just went ahead and added it! Thanks so much for all your support! It means a lot to me!

[@stilesjohnson1745]

Lmao 🤣 what a surprise good to see the originals.

[@Karatemart]

Thanks brother! I appreciate it!

[@stilesjohnson1745]

@@Karatemart as always 🙏🏽

[@jhlewis10]

Love it!

[@Karatemart]

Thank you! I hope you are having an awesome week, my friend!

[@jasonhaynes25]

I really like all three you tested here. The hammer fist is my pick but I would carry all of them separately of course and it was very nice to see the crew back I hope you guys get well quickly have an awesome week my friends and a great year also

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Jason! I really appreciate all your support, my friend! It means a lot to me!

[@tonywalkingstick8883]

Ian, you were great look forward to watching you and Amanda and Kyle again.

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Tony! I really appreciate all your support! You are awesome, my friend!

[@danielross5292]

Great review Amigos!😉☮️

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Daniel! I really appreciate all your support! You’re such a positive and awesome person! Have an excellent week, my friend!

[@kennethjoseph9309]

Welcome back Kyle. Way the start the year off with the stun guns. Get it out of your system 😅😅😅

[@Karatemart]

They forced me to do the video with them! It definitely wasn’t my idea! Thanks Kenneth! I hope you are having an awesome week, my friend!

[@amozjohnson970]

Can we do ANTI GRAB STUN BATON THE 18 INCH ONE?

[@Karatemart]

Hi Amoz! I’ve tested that one out in the past, but it was a long time ago. You can watch the video on the product page on www.karatemart.com. Have an awesome week, my friend!

[@gmckinney29]

Awesome video, thank you guys

[@Karatemart]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate that! I hope you have an excellent week!

[@Tboorohn]

This earned them an instant follow.

[@Karatemart]

Thank you! I really appreciate that! I hope you have an excellent weekend!

[@davidc.5793]

So freaking funny and educational, thank you! 🤣😂🤣

[@Karatemart]

Thanks David! We had a lot of fun making it! Thanks so much for watching! I really appreciate it!

[@maccurtis730]

Nice of Ian to be Kyles's support stun buddy.

[@Karatemart]

Yes, it was! Ian is very brave! Have an awesome week, my friend!

[@shawnclifford362]

Cheers kyle and Amanda. Ya'all are crazy 😂 love it. Stun Baton is cool. Well I have to say you guys are good at dealing with shocking moments. Shock cane is neat, but a wee obvious, but from your reaction, worth it. Amanda, quit running 🤪priceless. Great too see you again. You tube missed with the format, which makes it a wee difficult to save for later. Not to mention I was pretty sick since X Mas. Didn't forget. Take care Friends. Dia Duit ☘️

[@Karatemart]

I’m sorry to hear you were sick, my friend. I hope you are feeling better now. Thanks so much for all your support, brother!

[@alanjoslin5612]

Stun baton with spikes. Long story story. We our teenager's. Love my dogs but always fighting. So I got a idea. 1. Keep them apart. 2. Breaking sticks. 3. Long cattle gun stun. My brother goes outside and the dog (Bravo) darts outside. My girlfriend and me and (dog Ceasar) . My brother got the jaws on Bravo. I got Ceasar. My girlfriend went to get the cattle stun gun. She shocks the dogs but all of us! Hey my brother and me and the dogs " Hey stop, but talking to the dogs! Nooo Four times until the dogs separated" No more! Gave to someone else for farmer use!

[@Karatemart]

Oh wow! That’s a crazy story Alan! I hope you are having an excellent week, my friend!

[@floatingfroggy]

12:04 What a reaction 😂

[@Karatemart]

lol…this was such a fun video to make! Thanks so much for watching! I really appreciate it!

[@Shadowman9348]

It's good to see you guys back! We've missed you! 🙏

[@Karatemart]

Thank you, my friend! It was fun getting back on camera! I really do appreciate all your support over the last couple of years. It means a lot to me!

[@richardstout8691]

Just a thought are the batteries replaceable if needed

[@Karatemart]

Hi Richard, that depends on the stun gun or stun baton. With most of them, you can find replacement rechargeable batteries if you ever need them. Thanks so much for watching!

[@romanhardware]

I can imagine Amanda making a Halloween costume and calls herself Lady Stun or The Stunning lady and carry all kinds of stun weapons like Batman with a utility belt filled with batteries including rechargers. Amanda: Adam this comment gave me a good idea. Adam: Uh oh Adam: 🏃‍♂️

[@Karatemart]

Oh yeah…I can definitely see that as well! You crack me up, my friend! I hope you have an awesome week!

[@9daywonda]

Don't like stun guns but great 2 C U back Kyle, happy new year.

[@Karatemart]

Thank you, my friend! That means a lot to me!

[@larrythodgson7230]

The zapper cane is the best of all of them 😊 I don't go anywhere without it anymore 😊 love it it's great 😃👍

[@Karatemart]

Awesome! It is pretty cool! Thanks so much for watching!

[@kylerogerspowers2935]

Indeed grumpy.

[@haiasieel6099]

You guys are the best!!😂😂😂😂

[@Karatemart]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate that! I hope you are having an awesome week!

[@markrich6878]

Kyle…..it’s SO GOOD to see you back. I missed you!!!

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Mark! I really appreciate that! I promised I would do another video pretty soon as well, so stay tuned! I really appreciate your support, my friend!

[@treeshaker101]

Welcome back!

[@Karatemart]

Thank you, my friend! I really appreciate it!

[@tedoymisojos]

Why do you appreciate lack of info on voltage?

[@Karatemart]

Because so many companies just choose a random voltage number to make their stun guns appear stronger than other stun guns. Sadly, it’s an industry norm. But, people are becoming wiser to this, and more and more companies are choosing not to list a voltage. Thanks so much for watching!

[@superbowserdude2007]

HE’S BAAACK!

[@Karatemart]

Thanks brother! I hope life is treating you well, my friend!

[@charlesmarsden2573]

Hey man, Me and Aydin Fear over in Davis respected this.

[@Karatemart]

Thank you so much, Charles! I really appreciate that! I hope you have an excellent week!

[@justinchamberlain3443]

They’re shocking themselves so I’m subscribing

[@Karatemart]

Thanks Justin! I really appreciate the support!

[@craighawker4526]

Your all mad stun guns hurt I like the fact you are testing them to show us how effective they can be but Kyle you always draw the short straw but very entertaining haha take care brother

[@Karatemart]

Hahaha! I actually had a blast making this video with Ian, Craig! Thank you, my friend!

[@stilesjohnson1745]

Man I want stun gun so bad but my state they’re not allowed.

[@alameda501]

Awesome trio😂

[@Karatemart]

Thanks so much for watching! I really appreciate it!

[@maccurtis730]

Hope you both have plenty of icepacks for being hit by that stun Cain.

[@Karatemart]

Hahaha! Very true, my friend!

[@amozjohnson970]

The 18 Inch ANTI GRAB STUN Gun is good SELF DEFENSE WEAPON

[@Karatemart]

It was very effective when we tested it out! Thanks Amoz!

[@amozjohnson970]

Hey Kyle

[@Karatemart]

Hey Amoz!

[@chrischupp9760]

Test them on the same body part for each guy

[@Karatemart]

Maybe in a future video! Thanks so much for watching, Chris! I really appreciate it!

[@rene5356]

humans can build up resistance to hv, like CS, with me 50kv only tickles. look at rodney king footage the cops could not believe rodney's resistance to the hv they tried to take him down, no go

[@Karatemart]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@davidhilton9625]

Love the cane stun gun. I need a cane to walk much of the time. I just wish it were longer 20:18 . I’m 6’3”, so I fear it would be too short for me.

[@Karatemart]

Thanks David! I totally get that! I would definitely want the correct sized cane as well. I hope you are having an awesome week, my friend!

[@maccurtis730]

Hope this was not too shocking for you Kyle.

[@Karatemart]

Unfortunately, this video is one of the most shocking I’ve ever done! Thanks so much for all your support, Mac! I really appreciate it, my friend!

[@NaseebNaseebPT]

This in India we want

[@Karatemart]

Thanks so much for watching! I really appreciate it!

[@Riley-lz8mf]

11:40 🤣🤣🤣

[@Karatemart]

Thanks so much for watching! I really appreciate it!

[@juke1225]

made up for my crappy day watching this! haha

[@Karatemart]

I’m sorry you weren’t having a great day, brother! Glad this helped!

[@Really-Know]

I want to see a video of a stun baton actually used as a baton

[@Karatemart]

We have tested them out as batons in a couple of our videos. Thank you so much for watching! I really appreciate it!

[@Really-Know]

@Karatemart if yall got one of you two handing one against a coconut I'd love to see a video like that.

[@bearsnevergiveup]

It's always funny when people allow themselves to be hurt/shocked etc.

[@Karatemart]

Yep! And painful! It’s scary while we record them, but so fun to watch after the fact! Have an awesome weekend!

[@marinafrohlich7322]

Hi Kyle i am very happy that you came father three months.

[@Karatemart]

Thank you, Marina! I hope you are having an excellent week!

[@joshuaspruill6135]

Bro! 1 Hand rule,

[@Karatemart]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@cadencero5313]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Karatemart]

Thanks so much for watching, Caden! I hope you are having an awesome week, my friend!

[@TheRealRomansThirteen]

Kyle it might be the feels but it ain't the same without you🎻. The substitutes they are great but it's like not the same. Although I don't want you showing up to the studio being cattle prodded all the time poor guy. 😂😂😂 ⚡🌩️⚡⚡🌩️🌩️ Legend has it if Kyle's ever struck by lightning Amanda's in a parachute and giggles fallow.

[@Karatemart]

I appreciate that, my friend! I wish I had more time to do the videos myself, but Ian and Amanda mentioned they will be doing some soon.

[@joang.8735]

You all do not need to test these on yourselves for us.

[@Karatemart]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@brandonnewland3423]

Stay making the videos don't like the other videos

[@Karatemart]

I really appreciate your support, Brandon! It means a lot to me!

[@stilesjohnson1745]

Great video reminds me of Total Recall when Arnold get shocked while being in the chair 🪑.

[@Karatemart]

Lol…such a great movie! Thanks Stiles! Have an awesome week, my friend!

[@stilesjohnson1745]

@@Karatemart 🙏🏽

[@jammerwv]

I’ve missed these. SHOCKINGLY great video! 🫨⚡️

[@Karatemart]

Lol…thanks brother Jamie! I hope life is treating you well, my friend!