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Marvel Phase 4 Deleted Scenes
A look at some scenes from the latest MCU movies and tv shows, like Wakanda Forever, Loki, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Spider-Man No Way Home, and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, had they gone just a bit different
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Jeff Torres - Namor
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Victor Manso - Lieutenant Bob
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Scarlet Sheppard - Scarlet Witch (Wanda Maximoff), Politician 2
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Chris Watson - Captain America (Sam Wilson)
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Jon Bailey - J Jonah Jameson
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Alex Walker Smith - Owen Wilson (VO)
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Michael Adams Davis - TVA Agent, Doctor Strange
David Odom - Politician 1
Brian Fisher - Martin Starr
Written by Michael Adams Davis and Michael Schroeder
Directed by Michael Schroeder
Produced by Brian Fisher and David Odom
VFX by Richard Cabrera of Romthirty VFX - www.romthirty.com
Edited by Julian Higgins
Cinematography by Kevin Castro
Grip/Gaffer - Andrew Gaul
Makeup by Mel Aksamit
A Warp Media Production 2022
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0:00 - Intro
0:03 - Wakanda Forever
1:30 - Loki
3:28 - Falcon and the Winter Soldier
5:08 - Spider-man No Way Home
6:53 - Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
9:33 - Bloopers
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@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 Жыл бұрын
MCU Phase 4 is like taking random side quests after completing the main campaign.
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Жыл бұрын
Its not even their B material its like the scripts that got rejected a hundred times but got made because Disney just wanted content released on a monthly basis
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisSmith-tu9bu That can't be said about NWH, Wakanda Forever or Shang-Chi. Most of the others however....
@contentcorsair
@contentcorsair Жыл бұрын
It's more like thinking you were starting the campaign, finding out it was a false start (WV), THEN starting it (Loki), but continually getting side-tracked
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
@@contentcorsair Loki is 100% skippable. That ending has had no impact on any MCU films. The whole concept and rules of the TVA are established and changed because of Kang in the same show so you can skip Loki and miss nothing.
@kaine8911
@kaine8911 Жыл бұрын
Not really, could you explain?
@cameo178
@cameo178 Жыл бұрын
I think the movie mentioned that the corruption of the Darkhold was partially to blame for Wanda's irrationality, but I think they should have put more into showing her mental deterioration than the quick post credit scene of wandavision.
@clarkstrange2142
@clarkstrange2142 Жыл бұрын
This 100%
@alexthekitsune8740
@alexthekitsune8740 Жыл бұрын
Yeah plus they mention the darkholds author Cthon, the origin of Wanda’s chaos magic. If they added him like he’s a whisper in Wanda’s head to go further and ignore all reason like in Midnight Suns it would have been interesting
@RealLifeIronMan
@RealLifeIronMan Жыл бұрын
I've always hated the trope of character A is literally low IQ because the plot requires it. It is forgivable if this the first time the character has appeared and part of there character is being a literal idiot, but if the character is established to have a functioning brain and you use a plot device to make them dumb, all so the plot can happen, then you've lost me.
@kapoorhouseATL
@kapoorhouseATL Жыл бұрын
fr
@lunamartin6283
@lunamartin6283 Жыл бұрын
Before this film, Agents of Shield showed exactly how exactly darkhold corrupts everyone who reads it. I think the audience who has watched that show would get it easily on why Wanda went crazy, compared to those who haven't.
@torpedex4600
@torpedex4600 Жыл бұрын
the falcon winter soldier scene was incredibly valid
@matthewbosco9190
@matthewbosco9190 Жыл бұрын
They called his bluff I love it
@AgentsingleO
@AgentsingleO Жыл бұрын
Just remember do less bad🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dustovia
@dustovia Жыл бұрын
Man with a system but sadly very complicated of who do what
@gerstein03
@gerstein03 Жыл бұрын
"We're open to suggestions we just need more to go on than vague platitudes" Fucking savage
@allnamesaretakenful
@allnamesaretakenful Жыл бұрын
No, it isn't. Those in power only care about keeping the Status Quo.
@teigannyman196
@teigannyman196 Жыл бұрын
Can we all appreciate Jon Bailey's J.J. Jameson voice? It's perfect!!
@multiverse_media2023
@multiverse_media2023 Жыл бұрын
JK Simmons would be proud.
@andrewkoko2629
@andrewkoko2629 Жыл бұрын
I thought he was lip-syncing until he went off the movie’s script. 😂
@najhoant
@najhoant Жыл бұрын
I like that the solution to Wanda’s problem was to pull a Rick & Morty and take the place of another timeline version of herself who died at the right time. You’d think a screenwriter who also worked on the show would at least point out the option, but somehow that didn’t happen
@cunningsmile4166
@cunningsmile4166 Жыл бұрын
Rubba dub dub
@ArvinDelRosario
@ArvinDelRosario Жыл бұрын
But Wanda going to another Universe that isn't her own puts both her universe and that universe at risk of an incursion. Travelling to another universe was never an option to begin with. When two realities clash, it will cause an incursion. Only beings that don't exist in different realities can travel the multiverse without causing an incursion.
@copperdaylight
@copperdaylight Жыл бұрын
​@@ArvinDelRosario all the more interesting to watch though... Plus, it would make kahn the conqueror debut and the tsa tie in nicely to the cinematic world.
@fullestauto8912
@fullestauto8912 Жыл бұрын
@@ArvinDelRosario A) Strange did not know that at that point. B) Wanda did not know that at that point. C) Gamora and the dust of everyone else from 2014 seems to be doing just fine.
@Devil-yo7og
@Devil-yo7og Жыл бұрын
@@fullestauto8912 the 2014 Gamora is fine because she’s an alternate timeline version of herself for her to cause an incursion she would have to be from another universe
@sinebachrenleff847
@sinebachrenleff847 Жыл бұрын
The Loki deleted scene was so well done! Loved it!
@M1ckTheMan
@M1ckTheMan Жыл бұрын
Its my legit headcanon for TVA agents.
@noemichaelnebrida4046
@noemichaelnebrida4046 Жыл бұрын
Just here for Wanda's scene. Also a shout out for whoever the actress portraying her there! 10/10 and you did our great mother proud!
@pizzasoup
@pizzasoup Жыл бұрын
dear god
@ThatAnArchyDude
@ThatAnArchyDude Жыл бұрын
Same. Her plan really WAS that DUMB, and the crisis really was THAT easily solvable. 😂
@PurooRoy
@PurooRoy Жыл бұрын
Her name is Scarlet Sheppard.
@csquared84
@csquared84 Жыл бұрын
That there is Scarlet Sheppard. An amazing actress, and an amazing person.
@mar.s6516
@mar.s6516 Жыл бұрын
Yep was saying same for ages (whole "plan"), even had few ideas how to fix some issues - it boggles the mind how professional paid writers of this huge franchise can be so blind ?!?
@TommyTallNose
@TommyTallNose Жыл бұрын
As much as I like Spider-Man: No Way Home, there was TONS of different ways that not only could Peter have handled his problem, but better ways Strange could've helped out.
@fireant202
@fireant202 6 ай бұрын
Yeah Strange was definitely not being the adult in the room he needed to be.
@Hei_Darkfire
@Hei_Darkfire 5 ай бұрын
I didn't understand why they just didn't do the original spell. It could have still worked and let Peter reveal his identity to the people who knew him before.
@christiannotch2689
@christiannotch2689 Жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video, you guys have been killing it. Having nothing to do with that, does it bother anyone else that in Multiverse of Madness Wanda mentions her kids, but ignores vision. I mean at the end of the show she clearly wasn't over his death. Yet come that movie she is searching the multiverse for her kids but chooses one of infinite where her husband doesn't exist and doesn't even entertain the notion of finding him again
@TheWarpZone
@TheWarpZone Жыл бұрын
Paul Bettany was probably more expensive than the two child actors and their love of ice cream.
@simon_lukas
@simon_lukas Жыл бұрын
Well, they like ice cream like every child should...
@yaminogame
@yaminogame Жыл бұрын
I thought about that too but the children would be easier to fool then the husband. If they made the switch he would probably feel something is off. Not to mention she would not know their living situation off the bat. There would quite the adjustment period. But who knows, by the time they even find the “perfect” universe, Wanda would hopefully mellow out by then and maybe just not even worry about it
@anonymousproductionsxd2912
@anonymousproductionsxd2912 Жыл бұрын
I mean your right but she only mentions him once when she confronts Doctor Strange at Kamar taj.
@simon_lukas
@simon_lukas Жыл бұрын
@@yaminogame I don't know why anyone has to be "fooled". The guardians didn't seem to mind that they suddenly got a Gamorra from a different timeline... For all we know it's a nearly exact copy.
@Jack-sy8mr
@Jack-sy8mr Жыл бұрын
“That plan is super evil, and super stupid, now if it was revealed that some evil demon guy was manipulating you for his own evil ends that would make way more sense”
@jelita_
@jelita_ Жыл бұрын
Memphisto spotted 😈
@101Draico
@101Draico Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t she technically being manipulated and corrupted by the Dark Hold?
@deadplthebadass21
@deadplthebadass21 Жыл бұрын
​@@101Draico well the Dark Hold was made by Mephisto in the comics so, kinda works
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows Жыл бұрын
The problem with infinite universes is that it can potentially take an infinite amount of time to find the universe you want.
@Seastallion
@Seastallion Жыл бұрын
I suppose that depends upon whether or not Chavez's powers can link to alternate universes based specified parameters.
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows Жыл бұрын
@@Seastallion maybe they'll get lucky and find a universe with a multiversal search engine.
@Niki_Schreiber
@Niki_Schreiber Жыл бұрын
@@KingOfMadCows That was the first universe that Wanda found in the movie. They could even say from which Universe Dr Strange came after he escaped with america from Wanda
@JayStorm199
@JayStorm199 Жыл бұрын
It's implied America goes to a universe she needs like free food universes
@mcstuffy
@mcstuffy Жыл бұрын
just like with netflix, infinite shows but near infinite time to actually browse and not watching lmao
@Valkyreon
@Valkyreon Жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out these plotholes! The whole "A universe where Wanda's kids are orphans"-option has bugged me since I've watched the movie, it's just so obvious! It's just like when Thanos decided to reduce the overall population of the universe instead of just giving people enough ressources. They didn't do themselves any favors with the snap, especially when they intend to reveal other secret races or societies. It would be helpful to at least hear or see how Namor dealt with the Snap and the Blip.
@no.1spidey-fan182
@no.1spidey-fan182 Жыл бұрын
More resources doesnt stop the lack of resources problem neither does halving the people. Cause of the simple fact tbat humans SUCK so people are gonna end up hoarding and taking too much
@joelmole3157
@joelmole3157 Жыл бұрын
At least in Wanda's case, she... was not right in the head. She was corrupted by an evil book and mad with grief. You can allow for human error in times like this.
@darrenkey207
@darrenkey207 Жыл бұрын
These aren't potholes; they're flaws in the character's thinking. Flaws that were intentionally written
@darrenkey207
@darrenkey207 Жыл бұрын
@ty775 the directors said that the only reason Thanos didn't double the resources was because he didn't want to. He was dead set on proving that his kill half the population plan would have worked
@Valkyreon
@Valkyreon Жыл бұрын
@@darrenkey207 I consider it a plothole that they didn't even bring these obvious solutions up. Sometimes it's about being transparent as a writer, to include and deconstruct obvious solutions and explain why they wouldn't work - just to show the audience that you as a writer are aware of it. Just throw in two lines. Iron Man: "Why not just... double the resources? You can do anything with these stones, can't you?" Thanos: "And then what? The greedy will become greedier, the poor will have even less. True balance can only be achieved if all are treated in the same way." Or regarding Wanda, especially after they established that the Multiverse is basically endless with countless possibilities: Strange: "Have you considered that there might be a reality were your children are alive, but you're not? Where they could be in dire need of a mother?" Wanda: "Of course I did, that was my first instinct! But the Multiverse is vast, Strange, even bigger than you or I can imagine. Millions of possibilities, so many realities, where I don't even HAVE children! But then, my dreams led me to my sons! I'm not letting this opportunity fade away."
@bigreaderpike
@bigreaderpike Жыл бұрын
This exposes the big flaw of the Falcon in the Winter Soldier ending. And the sad thing about the doctor strange 2 thing with Wanda is it's true.
@SB-ki3jw
@SB-ki3jw Жыл бұрын
Be better
@user-xx6vy9ri8p
@user-xx6vy9ri8p Жыл бұрын
The entire Phase 4 is one big flaw.
@darrenkey207
@darrenkey207 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a flaw. Sam isn't supposed to do their jobs for them. He's busy fighting Super Soldiers, terrorists and Aliens. All while being denied bank loans and being racially profiled. I'm sure it's enough of them to sit down and strategize. Why were they just sitting on a building full of food and supplies anyway?
@darrenkey207
@darrenkey207 Жыл бұрын
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p if you agree with the this I question your judgment
@byronrush9802
@byronrush9802 Жыл бұрын
@@darrenkey207 exactly the situation is more complicated than that and saying do better is an empty platitude, just because you have a lot of resources does not mean you have to share it across the world Even with the power of the world nations combined they still can't feed everyone in the world, someone's going to go hungry someone's needs are not going to be me, fast food restaurants public schools and colleges throw away thousands of dollars worth of food away everyday that could be given to the homeless for the simple excuse they might get sick they are eating garbage they have the strongest stomachs on the planet
@danieldishon688
@danieldishon688 Жыл бұрын
Wanda said she had to kill Chevez so she would always have her powers, just in case her kids got sick and she needed to go find new ones again.
@The_Patbey
@The_Patbey Жыл бұрын
find an universe where people can't get sick, easy
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu Жыл бұрын
@@The_Patbey in an infinite amount of them you could theorically search forever and never find the one you seek
@Wolfman7870
@Wolfman7870 Жыл бұрын
That's really dumb logic to justify a stupid plot.
@The_Patbey
@The_Patbey Жыл бұрын
@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu considering how small the chance is that she finds a reality where earth even exists and her kids are just like Tommy and Billy, I guess its possible to specify a little further
@potatoexe5410
@potatoexe5410 Жыл бұрын
That's still a dumb reason. She could simply also adopt Chavez and train her to properly use her powers. That way Chavez gets a home while Wanda gets a daughter as well as have her powers on hand at all times. There's also the option of finding a way to take her powers without killing her or study her powers to create a spell that can replicate her dimensional hopping.
@milkiassamuel780
@milkiassamuel780 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, you bring up a good point about Namor, you would think he would've made his presence known to the surface world during the Snap since he clearly is devoted to his people and since he wasn't much of a rational person and still holds a hatred to the colonisation of his people, you'd think he would've jumped the shark (pun intended) and blame the surface world and probably gone to war during the 5-year gap considering half of the people of Talochan must've gotten dusted. I mean we all saw what he did to Wakanda after Nakia unintentionally killed a Talochanian, Namor would've gone ballistic on the surface world. BTW Namor was such a fantastic antagonist and Tenoch Huerta killed it.
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
Except that Namor would have no way of knowing the reason why his people got snapped. I doubt people at Talokan watch the news and if they did they would easily expose themselves.
@milkiassamuel780
@milkiassamuel780 Жыл бұрын
Fair point. But then again we saw in the film how impulsive Namor is when it come to safety and security of his people nd I imagine watching half of your entire civilisation fade away must've been traumatic and lead to him seeking some kind of answers to seek closure. In fact I could imagine that Namor could've in fact sent small scouts out to find answers yet keep a discrete profile without thr surface world noticing them as they are proven to be quite a stealthy civilisation, sneaking up on the oil rig in the film, in addition to having technology for occasions when they would have to arise out of the oceans for decades. Surely some scouts could've informed Namor of how this was a worldwide situation and some means of gaining information could've doable thus could've lead to Namor making his presence known to the world. I'm not trying to be negative in any way it just seems like funny plot hole to point that sounds quite intriguing to have seen. But I digress.
@adam-dn3hi
@adam-dn3hi Жыл бұрын
I disagree There is no way that out of the entire universe half of talocan was killed At fucking best maybe 1 died
@milkiassamuel780
@milkiassamuel780 Жыл бұрын
You do have a point, and at the bare minimum I could've imagined at least 5% of Talochan's population must've gotten dusted as it is a major civilisation with who knows how much of an empire they have below the sea. But then again considering Namor quite literally flooded Wakanda and murdered hundreds of people, including the Queen herself, all just as a warning for the fact that one Wakandan inadvertently killed a single member of Namor's people, only makes me imagine how even more hostile and relentless Namor could've been hhad he gone to war with the surface world as even if he didn't know it was Thanos's doing, Namor is clearly an irrational person when it comes to the safety of his people and would kill hundreds for the death of one Talochanian, thus he could've killed thousands even millions out of pure grief, anger and bolted up rage against the action of colonisers fron the past and putting said hatred towards the surface world, which would've been likely to happen during rhe 5 year gap.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 Жыл бұрын
@@adam-dn3hi Thanos' Snap spares no one when turning half of the universe's populations into dust.
@thetruesora
@thetruesora Жыл бұрын
Multiverse of Madness did try and cover it somewhat with "Wanda believes she needs the power herself so that if some other problem came up like her kids got sick she'd be able to just go to a universe where there's a cure" but that feels like it was something thrown in late like "eh sure that all makes sense now"
@Niki_Schreiber
@Niki_Schreiber Жыл бұрын
And that could easily be answered by just asking America to bring her and her children to a universe with the cure
@raahim11
@raahim11 Жыл бұрын
exactly. Like she just told a guy "What mouth?" and straight up erased it. She is not facing any issues with her kids getting an uncurable disease or the likes.
@Koza6969
@Koza6969 Жыл бұрын
"cool motive, still murder"
@TvReferences
@TvReferences Жыл бұрын
Feel like any inconsistencies can be put under the darkhold is affecting her mind and making her crazy and irrational, kinda lazy but makes sense
@jamalhartley5863
@jamalhartley5863 Жыл бұрын
They make it seem like the dark hold was corrupting her but it's literally destroyed in the movie. Not to mention the movie spits in the face of WandaVision which was all about Wanda coming to terms with her grief. She was set up to grow as a person. It was real tonal whiplash what they did with her.
@adrianrenteria4229
@adrianrenteria4229 Жыл бұрын
The multiverse of madness one makes a hell of a lot of sense
@skinder124
@skinder124 Жыл бұрын
surprised he didn't mention finding a universe that ALSO has Vision alive and well lol
@adrianrenteria4229
@adrianrenteria4229 Жыл бұрын
@@skinder124 marvel got some explaining to do
@skinder124
@skinder124 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianrenteria4229 the original plan was to use that movie to build up wanda to become a villain, but the director decided he wanted to "play with the character" instead. They stopped seeing them as characters and more like action figures
@adrianrenteria4229
@adrianrenteria4229 Жыл бұрын
@@skinder124 that's messed up. Ik these are comic characters but their still characters that some people enjoy
@mackenziehunter4593
@mackenziehunter4593 Жыл бұрын
Except she was corrupted by the Darkhold. Thinking rationally was tossed out the window a long time ago.
@memerminecraft585
@memerminecraft585 Жыл бұрын
The Namor thing is applicable to, like, every secret group or independent entity that gets revealed in the MCU after Thanos. They all should have both cared and been involved. I will say that a lot of people tend to overlook something in the Wanda-Strange conversation; he suggests working with America in the actual movie. She shuts it down with an (albeit irrational) argument that she needs the power so that she can travel across the multiverse to find the cure to anything that might ever happen to her children. The bottom line is that she's gone mad, not that she's actually come up with a "reasonable" (her word) plan.
@EvieRawlings
@EvieRawlings Жыл бұрын
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier made me so happy. That monologue always pissed me off. These people are ACTUALLY trying. Sure they're not perfect but they're in a no win situation. Someone is always going to get hurt. I'm sorry Cap but you can't just yell at these people to "do better" when you don't have any ideas yourself.
@ashleytuchin7693
@ashleytuchin7693 Жыл бұрын
My friend and I are always making fun of that speech.
@ShadeSlayer1911
@ShadeSlayer1911 Жыл бұрын
I love Sam as a character, but that was a godawful speech indeed. It is just so...empty.
@josephnewsome2935
@josephnewsome2935 Жыл бұрын
And wakanda isn’t called out for hoarding it’s resources
@captaineri.223
@captaineri.223 Жыл бұрын
Merely n assumption
@ShadeSlayer1911
@ShadeSlayer1911 Жыл бұрын
@@josephnewsome2935 hypocrisy is all over phase 4. I'm sure the precious phases had it too, but it's all the more noticeable and in your face in phase 4. Heck, I'm noticing it and I'm not even watching any of it. That's how in your face it is.
@faisalakhtar3394
@faisalakhtar3394 Жыл бұрын
For FATWS, the senator should have said "didn't she use violence and threats for political gains? Making people afraid and feel categorised in the process? This is literally the definition of terrorism."
@chocofro3
@chocofro3 Жыл бұрын
It's also what people who have been called heroes in history have done to free or progress a group of people. So Falcon's points regarding that are still valid. She wasn't doing it for malicious purposes or to just cause terror.
@6thgraderfriends
@6thgraderfriends 6 ай бұрын
Didn't she blow a bunch of people up to get her point across? Hey, definition of terrorism right there.
@claytonrios1
@claytonrios1 Жыл бұрын
If these were actual deleted scenes I wouldn't be surprised given the quality of Phase 4.
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Жыл бұрын
Exactly these scenes are WAY TOO smart to be from phase four
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
Most of it at least.
@chalkywhite2598
@chalkywhite2598 Жыл бұрын
Then stop watching it
@jeremyusreevu237
@jeremyusreevu237 Жыл бұрын
The Multiverse Of Madness one was spot on. Like, that movie had so many collosal plotholes it was just astounding. The fact that there are actually people out there who think that plotholes don't matter and that being concerned about the logic of a film is for killjoys just pisses me off.
@f2pkrdecade
@f2pkrdecade Жыл бұрын
The problem with MCU phase 4 is mainly the bad writing, plot holes and weak villains (also the declining quality of VFX due to poor planning and overwork of VFX artists), unlike some people who defended them by just saying they are setups for phase 5 or some are experiments, which do NOT offset these flaws at all.
@chalkywhite2598
@chalkywhite2598 Жыл бұрын
You are kidding right, phase 1-3 were filled with plot holes
@peterparker9954
@peterparker9954 Жыл бұрын
And woke agenda
@peterparker9954
@peterparker9954 Жыл бұрын
​@@chalkywhite2598not as many as phase 4
@chalkywhite2598
@chalkywhite2598 Жыл бұрын
@@peterparker9954 yeah that’s not true at all. All movies in phase 4 out earned phase 1 films. It’s not even close
@chalkywhite2598
@chalkywhite2598 Жыл бұрын
@@peterparker9954 there is no such thing as a woke agenda. Only racists use that term
@mikeprice7124
@mikeprice7124 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Wanda literally could’ve worked with America to find her parents while searching for a reality where Vision and her kids live w/o her.
@pse2020
@pse2020 Жыл бұрын
Or just get kids. Or did they mention she cant get kids?
@ashleytuchin7693
@ashleytuchin7693 Жыл бұрын
I love these, they're all so valid! The "be better" speech is a personal peeve of mine.
@thefanwithoutaface8105
@thefanwithoutaface8105 Жыл бұрын
Really says a lot when early Marvel movies, even if thye had plot holes they weren't distractingly huge like the ones we have to deal with now.
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
The No Way Home one and Wakanda Forever ones are innacurate (I know the video addressed the extended cut but still makes it innacurate).
@raahim11
@raahim11 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanieldiaz5254 not really. NO WAY HOME Plot hole is valid. There was no mention of data and Videos being erased. Especially considering he managed to rent an apartment afterwards, which requires as ID and stuff. I love NWH, but the movie is Fanservice 1st, Plot 2nd.
@mackenziehunter4593
@mackenziehunter4593 Жыл бұрын
@@raahim11 And there's no way anyone can get a new identity?
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
@@raahim11 The post credit scene shows that only evidence of Peter existing that was open to the public was erased. All his personal items were safe. And no the movie is character first even though fan service (done right) is a big part of it.
@raahim11
@raahim11 Жыл бұрын
​@@mackenziehunter4593 Then mention that facr in the Movie. Or else it is Headcanon. There is literally no mention of him forging his new identity. also, again, No mention of Video, Books, news etc data being deleted by the spell
@anonymousproductionsxd2912
@anonymousproductionsxd2912 Жыл бұрын
Jon Bailey as J Jonah Jameson = Incredible Performance/ Perfect casting.
@jonmc131
@jonmc131 Жыл бұрын
OMG!!! Loved this!!! Jeff's Namor was pretty impressive!!! Loved the Scarlet Witch scenes!!!! This was just pretty incredible!!! Well done to all involved!!
@Spxctor_Tapes
@Spxctor_Tapes Жыл бұрын
I like how captain America just ran away even though he has wings
@prestigiorebelde
@prestigiorebelde Жыл бұрын
The no way home was not a plot hole. As soon as the movie was released the authors were asked about it, and they said they were debating on whether to show how it erases memories from social media and the book and everything but didn’t because they wanted to focus the end the movie on an emotional tone. That was long before they added the scene in the extended cut.
@blackhand441
@blackhand441 Жыл бұрын
Author statement after the fact don't mean squat tho 🤨
@DannyLee-zv9gl
@DannyLee-zv9gl Жыл бұрын
@@blackhand441 it does tho plus it was a delete sense so yes if that made it does matter
@blackhand441
@blackhand441 Жыл бұрын
@@DannyLee-zv9gl so JK Rowling wakes up and says all of Harry Potter was dreamt up by a mouse in a subway station and it automatically becomes fact ? If it wasn't in the movie then it doesn't mean squat. Sure supplementary information can come later but that doesn't make it any less of a plot hole.
@IRMentat
@IRMentat Жыл бұрын
@@DannyLee-zv9gl here’s the thing. If you delete it then add it back in to a version a fraction of the audience will ever see then it’s not relevant. It’s like Disney-wars where the imps are running then loosing then winning them loosing despite the only organised forces against them apparently being a squadron of I-can’t -believe-it’s-not-an-xwing one dropship and a few VERY sociopathic leaders who think a 99.99% attrition rate is just fine so don’t question orders and obey your betters.
@szalonykon
@szalonykon Жыл бұрын
For me it was obvious that spell worked that way that it changed everything including social media, videos and basically everything that would remind anyone of Peter Parker. There is no plot hole here, just fan weird limitation on spell.
@RealCFZ
@RealCFZ Жыл бұрын
1:26 …… Namor… YOU’RE UNDERWATER!
@mackenziehunter4593
@mackenziehunter4593 Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's the joke.
@TheUnnbreakable
@TheUnnbreakable Жыл бұрын
I like how they marked the exact moment FalconWinter soldier went from very watchable with a few dumb scenes to what are they doing to Cap. Also his custom needs to look better for the movies the wings look dumb.
@sampigg7933
@sampigg7933 Жыл бұрын
So glad someone points out all the nonsense in phase 4!
@Raximus3000
@Raximus3000 Жыл бұрын
They just scratched the surface.
@samcochran8203
@samcochran8203 Жыл бұрын
They just carved off the bare minimum tip of that iceberg that is the nonsensical phase 4 to the titanic that is the mcu
@mcruz4571
@mcruz4571 Жыл бұрын
This Namor is in better physical shape than the one in the movie...
@federerlkonig330
@federerlkonig330 Жыл бұрын
I was tempted to Say that. Tenoch has a overall pleasant shape(Just, while other duperherors are ripped as hell, Tenoch was toned and approachable), but this One has a far more sculpted chest.
@Kevoooth
@Kevoooth Жыл бұрын
He was better
@robertmiles1888
@robertmiles1888 Жыл бұрын
They just have different body shapes. Movies etc have been favoring the more "triangle" (mesomotph) shape over the "round" one. He was/is just as fit.
@s.ai.3865
@s.ai.3865 Жыл бұрын
No offense to this Namor actor but Tenoch’s body is the better one tbh, his physique looks strong and not dehydrated.
@JUANxxTNAFAN
@JUANxxTNAFAN Жыл бұрын
L take that’s probably from somebody that knows nothing about different body types!
@jasonfrost6947
@jasonfrost6947 Жыл бұрын
MoM scene is truly masterful.
@thembanitheone
@thembanitheone Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Sam-Cap... but the FATWS writers turned him into A-train with that "Do Better" speech 😂
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Жыл бұрын
YEP
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
What does that have anything to do with A-Train?
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Жыл бұрын
Disney is straight up Vought.... like they have no love for women or minorities or ANY marginalized groups BUT they sure will pretend and virtue signal their butts off because thats WAY easier and quicker than actually writing good stories with minorities.... right next to Maeves Wild Ride they should play that dumpster fire of a show She-Hulk
@thembanitheone
@thembanitheone Жыл бұрын
@@nathanieldiaz5254 A-train thinks his status as a top-level hero gives him unique qualifications to weigh in on political tensions. His misguided attempts at using his platform to "preach" solutions come off as tone-deaf at best and disastrous at worst. Energy drink commercial and the Blue Hawk situation as an example.
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
@@thembanitheone Yeah but that's not Sam. His speech is very flawed but Sam had the best intentions.
@Darkbeast42
@Darkbeast42 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call the No Way Home part a plot hole, I always assumed that the physical evidence had just been altered to exclude "Peter Parker".
@lilcory2000
@lilcory2000 Жыл бұрын
fan boys hate the ending because spiderman stories are not supposed to have happy endings
@Darkbeast42
@Darkbeast42 Жыл бұрын
@@lilcory2000 really? Most of the Spider-Man stories I've seen have sad endings. He'll typically break up with his love interest or someone close to him will die, sometimes both. Being miserable is kind of key part of Peter's character.
@lilcory2000
@lilcory2000 Жыл бұрын
@@Darkbeast42 ho that's why people are mad that makes more sense and makes me more confused about why poeple not like the ending?? Peter hot his ass handed to him left and right for doing the right thing
@erosgarcia6284
@erosgarcia6284 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they added a new post credit scene in the extended version to clarify this .
@EpicMan-ci7jf
@EpicMan-ci7jf Жыл бұрын
It was also mentioned in Doctor Strange 2, when he said they had a recent entaglement with Spider-Man.
@fortunelekoto6704
@fortunelekoto6704 Жыл бұрын
I could totally buy this as offical MCU deleted scenes
@lesdyxiatoo
@lesdyxiatoo Жыл бұрын
Damn. Now I’m wishing they’d made Wanda more complex in MoM. I’m imagining a movie where she doesn’t want to kill Chavez but instead kidnaps her and forces her to take her to every universe until she finds one that she’s satisfied with. It also could’ve been interesting to see Strange and Wong travel through every universe to track them down so we could’ve still gotten the new characters and worlds and same hijinks/horrors but more refined and nuanced. It could’ve been interesting to see Wanda find herself unexpectedly bonding with Chavez during all this and through that heal the trauma of losing her children, maybe she even makes peace with the sad truth she never really had kids and decides to mentor Chavez but then it’s revealed they might have found a universe with her boys in it. I’m not sure who the “villain” would be in this version but I just think it would’ve been more complex than…what happened.
@motor4X4kombat
@motor4X4kombat Жыл бұрын
they should have went with the captain america and the winter soldier route that insted of making wanda the villain he becomes an ally to doctor strange and theyre both agaist a menace that challenge them in their character grow, plus they can actually do shit with mordo since his plot line went no where at this point
@lesdyxiatoo
@lesdyxiatoo Жыл бұрын
@@motor4X4kombat ooh, that would’ve been cool too
@peterparker9954
@peterparker9954 Жыл бұрын
Filmento has fixed the bad writing of MoM
@peterparker9954
@peterparker9954 Жыл бұрын
Kingpin in Into the Spiderverse did it really well .... He forced the scientists in his facility to build a collider to find his wife and son in a parallel universe.... That was amazing.... That film was incredibly well written MoM is just TRASH
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
This was one of your funniest videos yet but here are my thoughts: There's no way Namor and his people could've known about Thanos' motivation to wipe out half of all life even if they somehow knew that Thanos was coming to Earth. You already pointed out that Marvel fixed the plot hole of No Way Home with the extended cut so I'll just say that the part was funny even if it was innacurate.
@mikaelste-marie1275
@mikaelste-marie1275 Жыл бұрын
How did they fix the No way home plot hole ? I only watch the first cut.
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
@@mikaelste-marie1275 The explained that the spell didn't just erase everyone's memory but also all evidence of Peter's existance.
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanieldiaz5254 which begs the question: how did he restart his life, let alone do so so quickly? He has no money, no ID, birth certificate, nothing from his home (such as clothes) he quite literally had to start over with what he had on his back at the time: his suit. Also that contradicts the actual spell. Forgetting about somone and erasing physical evidence of that person are two VERY different things. And that's not even getting into the amount of causality rewrites needed to repair the ripple effects Peter had on the world. In other words, they committed the dreaded double fuck up. They made a plot hole to try and fix a plot hole.
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
@@corruptangel6793 I misphrased it the first time. The post credit scene showed that only evidence of Peter's existance that was known and open to the public was erased. So stuff like his personal items wouldn't have gotten erased. And it's very easy to assume that Strange just did a double spell it's not far fetched.
@Fade24011
@Fade24011 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanieldiaz5254 That just sounds even more far fetched
@JemarcAxinto
@JemarcAxinto Жыл бұрын
Davis as Dr. Strange is really doing it for me not gonna lie
@jorgegfigueroa9755
@jorgegfigueroa9755 Жыл бұрын
With how deep you dove with Multiverse of Madness, I'd go insane over how you'd fix Love and Thunder
@Mr.Quackerjack
@Mr.Quackerjack Жыл бұрын
What a hilarious video, top-notch performances from everyone involved, including Jon Bailey as JJ. Speaking of which, now that Jon is the new voice of Grapefruit on Annoying Orange, maybe we’ll be seeing The Warp Scone visit the kitchen in the near future? Davis as Danish, Schroeder as Schronut, Brian as Fishcake, Odom as Oatdom, and Ryan as Rye-Bun. How awesome would that be?
@thembanitheone
@thembanitheone Жыл бұрын
Namor... is CUT. Gahdayumn.💎
@dellcoc
@dellcoc Жыл бұрын
Namor is the only one in Talokan with pointed ears.
@optimascrime5235
@optimascrime5235 Жыл бұрын
The Warp Zone always making comedy Gold,I loved how the Honest Trailer guy had a cameo 😂
@jelita_
@jelita_ Жыл бұрын
Which guy?
@wong1030
@wong1030 Жыл бұрын
9:23 Strange: What’d you think? Wanda: *becomes wandavision mode again*
@tiago9977
@tiago9977 Жыл бұрын
6:44 I wouldn't consider it a plot hole tbh, they just didn't explain it in detail. I had already assumed Doctor Strange's spell would affect physical evidence of his existence anyway, I was just prepared to wait for them to show us the extent of it in Spidey's next film.
@TFalconwing
@TFalconwing Жыл бұрын
the bit with Falcon is basically how I felt after the series ended. It's like they wanted to make a point and just... didn't?
@triaina_
@triaina_ Жыл бұрын
Imagine erasing a timeline because a kid picked the wrong pack of gum
@jaketaller8567
@jaketaller8567 Жыл бұрын
What did that pack of gum ever do to you, TVA? Buncha jerks.
@sunso1991
@sunso1991 Жыл бұрын
this is not 23% smarter, this is 2300% smarter 🤣🤣🤣
@dshock85
@dshock85 Жыл бұрын
This is why I think they screwed phase 4 up with not having Mephisto or Nightmare released from the actions of Loki. They should have been the ones manipulating Wanda and blinding her. Ironically in the same way she manipulated Stark. Using her to go after America Chavez for themselves. The spell going wrong in No Way Home should have been as well directly linked to Loki killing He Who Remains, been released before Multiverse of Madness and featured America Chavez like it was originally intended. Basically the end of Loki should have been the main catalyst kicking off the events of phase 4, you get No Way Home building into Multiverse of Madness and then linking to Quantumania with Casey secretly exploring the quantum realm and being kidnapped.
@LumenPsycho
@LumenPsycho Жыл бұрын
Damn, Phase 4 is like they gave the pencil to a kid & let them write whatever.
@galahad6300
@galahad6300 Жыл бұрын
The annoying thing is that the MCU has these contrivances, but if you think about it for a minute, you can find a better way to execute the plot without contriving it. And it annoys me to no end that these contrivances have either easy fixes or actual improvements to the plot, but rather than fix it, they just left it contrived
@hereiamtowreckyourday3330
@hereiamtowreckyourday3330 Жыл бұрын
"I don't do that" 🤣🤣 now if she just felt that way about murdering innocent variants of herself...
@farmerproductions9869
@farmerproductions9869 Жыл бұрын
About the no way home but; the way more fun edition credits scene seems to have shown the the spell affected physical photos and probably videos as well
@farmerproductions9869
@farmerproductions9869 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t finish the video before posting it
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy Жыл бұрын
That makes no sense? The wording of a spell matters - it's almost the same as making a wish - if you word it in a specific way, it WORKS in a specific way. For it to work in that way, you'd have to have Strange have MULTIPLE "spell layers", like in how we saw him add layers to his spell each time Peter changed his mind based on who he wanted to remember him.
@anionhero
@anionhero Жыл бұрын
Great job on the video! Although you missed a golden opportunity at the end. Have Dr. Strange convince Wanda of his actually brilliant plan and then have TVA agents come out and erase both of them, shouting "Sacred Timeline!"
@abdulazimnaushad
@abdulazimnaushad Жыл бұрын
Uh bro there is no more Sacred Timeline shit after He Who Remains' death. He clearly said that his death would break open the multiverse and branch out timelines and realities.
@ShionChosa
@ShionChosa Жыл бұрын
Does that mean Hulk knew of the people of Telokan and it wasn’t a big secret after the reverse snap? Knowledge of half the universe’s life would have been brain overload so he simply forgot.
@darksideofevil13
@darksideofevil13 Жыл бұрын
He couldn't possibly know everyone he brought back. Just the wish for all life.
@flickyisland
@flickyisland Жыл бұрын
So where's Davis' Emmy after that one shot monologue?
@lovelaceackah216
@lovelaceackah216 Жыл бұрын
This is actually more better then most phase 4 content
@razarryan2465
@razarryan2465 Жыл бұрын
Never mind the fact that Wanda could just…have sex…or adopt. And also Nevermind the fact that VISION IS ALIVE SOMEWHERE but she doesn’t seem to care.
@zachryder3150
@zachryder3150 Жыл бұрын
*I volunteer as tribute!*
@jlev1028
@jlev1028 Жыл бұрын
I heard in some other video that neither Sam Raimi nor the screenwriter watched WandaVision and were only given Cliffnotes.
@2429Ryanspeer
@2429Ryanspeer Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video warp zone your channel is awesome and I mean that personally you are a fantastic youtube channel thanks for this year's videos and Merry Christmas to all 🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄
@Jay-Da-Giant
@Jay-Da-Giant Жыл бұрын
Now that was hilarious! 😂😂😂😂 BTW, I hope you can make a Mr. Richards Interviewing the Fantastic Four coming into the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
@ricklotter
@ricklotter Жыл бұрын
Lol plot holes in comics are a requirement, but the Wanda scene was outstanding.
@virginiavanni8061
@virginiavanni8061 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that wanda couldn't stay in another universe without ripping the multiverse apart, at least from what I remember from the movie
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 Жыл бұрын
Wanda should have created another Hex to bring her kids back, but without trapping any people.
@AgentsingleO
@AgentsingleO Жыл бұрын
"Can I get some water, tap is fine" 🤣🤣🤣
@ifakedthemoonlanding718
@ifakedthemoonlanding718 Жыл бұрын
phase 4 a mess
@09cheetahman31
@09cheetahman31 Жыл бұрын
That post-credit scene happened in the comics. They thought people read the comics.
@nathanieldiaz5254
@nathanieldiaz5254 Жыл бұрын
It happened in the extended cut
@TheDisneyLover58
@TheDisneyLover58 Жыл бұрын
1:13 look if we were in comic or have traditional t’Challa. They wouldn’t have even help till thanos came physically. These two were very “every country for themselves”
@liberpolo5540
@liberpolo5540 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how great the MCU could be if only a handful of characters acted like mature adults 😅
@MDMOBB
@MDMOBB Жыл бұрын
Love this video hopefully we get more MCU content from you guys
@SuperODST1
@SuperODST1 Жыл бұрын
5:37, I legit thought that's what they were going to go for, and that like a Flash comic, where the twist is that "everyone" means EVERYONE, so, Spiderman forgets he's Spiderman. That would be a much better movie.
@GeneralPedrowsky
@GeneralPedrowsky Жыл бұрын
You guys never disappoint this was hilarious lol
@James-rm7sr
@James-rm7sr Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I had the same thoughts especially Spiderman. I was like um-even say MJ would have had a note or something from a guy named Peter Parker. She would of had a text message from Peter along with his best friend.
@blackmagician7645
@blackmagician7645 Жыл бұрын
🤔Good point on Namor and his people. Why didn't they come out of hiding to confront the surface world after like half of their civilization was killed? Or maybe they thought it was unrelated to anything above. And when those who mysteriously parished returned just as mysteriously. Albeit a few years later. They just cut it as breaking even and moved on.
@blackmagician7645
@blackmagician7645 Жыл бұрын
It is funny that Wanda thought of everything to be a mother. Except the obvious solution of having sex.
@762x69
@762x69 Жыл бұрын
Thats a damn good JJJ impersonation 👍🤙
@tenzon975
@tenzon975 Жыл бұрын
When I was watching Doctor Strange:ITMOM I literally thought the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING, no cap. I was like, "why didn't she just ask America? Also... like if she could go LITERARY to any universe, why not find one where her kids exist but she doesn'" Awesomeness
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu Жыл бұрын
Well at least they gave the excuse that she could need the powers to save her children, that will make her need América by her side always, which América obviously wouldn't want cause her own live and problems
@roseheart270
@roseheart270 Жыл бұрын
The Spider-Man one has already been addressed completely. The magic tampered the evidence. For the Namor one, they didn't even seem to know about Wakanda before Wakanda Forever.
@DrianTheGuy
@DrianTheGuy Жыл бұрын
ive been waiting for a video like this, especially that last bit.
@4reeltv
@4reeltv Жыл бұрын
this was amazingly put together 😂
@shelisemassie6656
@shelisemassie6656 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@nickcoltz1526
@nickcoltz1526 Жыл бұрын
I do have an Idea about MoM. Instead of assassinate the character of Wanda, why not make her alternate reality an Evil one and make Strange and Wanda and America work together to defeat her?
@soulstealer5625
@soulstealer5625 Жыл бұрын
I thought wanda was gonna chill before she went super far then the rest pf the film deal with the real villain like another Wanda or something.
@esteva03
@esteva03 Жыл бұрын
Your Namor is more buff than the million dollar one. 🤣🤣🤣
@malindukumaradasa3851
@malindukumaradasa3851 10 ай бұрын
Your cast is just awesome!
@tokusaturider2559
@tokusaturider2559 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they should have done something about the shrine and posts online 😂
@CineScarborough
@CineScarborough Жыл бұрын
Wow, this Doctor Strange's plan for Wanda actually makes more sense!
@SilverConnection
@SilverConnection Жыл бұрын
Davis looking great in the Doctor Strange outfit. Great video as always!
@sternritternovad
@sternritternovad Жыл бұрын
These are always a treat
@temwananinkana3419
@temwananinkana3419 Жыл бұрын
This namor has more muscle, than the one in the film 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@alvaxerox4357
@alvaxerox4357 Жыл бұрын
First Why doesn't Wanda just become the mother of her kids an infinite universes.
@mackenziehunter4593
@mackenziehunter4593 Жыл бұрын
Because the Darkhold corrupted her, as stated in the movie. Rational thought was tossed out the window.
@Oluap359
@Oluap359 11 ай бұрын
The Wakanda Forever scene, Bob talks about spies, but the Talokan people outside the water is blue, so that's gonna be difficult to hide
@m-12ul20
@m-12ul20 Жыл бұрын
Strange spitting a good point
@danieloconnor1005
@danieloconnor1005 Жыл бұрын
Warp Zone would be great at Cinema Sins
@bigreaderpike
@bigreaderpike Жыл бұрын
You did the nameor scene just so you should show off your good exercise program didn't you
@theleastsignificantbit4794
@theleastsignificantbit4794 10 ай бұрын
If these skits were actually in the MCU, I’d go see one of the films. Alas, there are not so, I simply liked and subscribed. Continue doing God’s work!
@dopekidrepublic
@dopekidrepublic Жыл бұрын
Since Hollywood doesn't want to take criticism from guys like Drinker, they should take criticism from The Warp Zone
@GuarinoPablo
@GuarinoPablo Жыл бұрын
Ok, I loved the phase 4 but this is true Ps. Falcon is not a politician
@thefanwithoutaface8105
@thefanwithoutaface8105 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the more they add to the MCU the worse and more plot holes that arise.
@mackenziehunter4593
@mackenziehunter4593 Жыл бұрын
Happens to every story. The more you add, the problems will arise. Its the very nature of long form storytelling.
@abboud6393
@abboud6393 Жыл бұрын
those aren't really much worse than the plot holes in the movies of phase 1-3. Like none of them are particularly plot breaking if your willing to suspend your disbelief a little
@n-riv8101
@n-riv8101 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the Doctor Strange plot hole exists when we’re 6 seasons into Rick and Morty is the saddest part
@Christall5
@Christall5 Жыл бұрын
2:20 You look so much like Soldier Boy there 😂
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