Marville #1-7 (ALL IN ONE) - Atop the Fourth Wall

[@mikeike9742]

Something I probably should've realized ages ago- Bill mentions on his open letter that he knew Marville wouldn't sell well but made it anyway because it was a meaningful story to him. This alone isn't inherently a bad thing... but then you remember that this whole thing was made as a bet with Peter David to try and see whose story could outsell the other. That either means Jemas had such a low opinion of Peter David that he could put any garbage out and win the bet, that he was too stupid to realize that when you want to outsell somebody it's probably a good idea to put out something you expect to sell, or both. Honestly, I could buy any of the above.

[@POLE7645]

Or considering the hard tonal shift of issue #3, what he said applied only on issue #3-6 after the sales of 1 and 2 were shown to be disastrous.

[@GdoubleWB]

@@POLE7645 I think after issues 1 and 2 failed miserably, Jemas just threw up his hands and said screw it, and decided to just use issues 3-6 as an excuse to blather on about God and evolution and crap.

[@paulmahoney7619]

I think Bill Jemas might've had a nervous breakdown and Marville is that nervous breakdown put to page.

[@FillmGeekOfDoom]

@@paulmahoney7619 That actually makes perfect sense.

[@robstewartstewart98]

Also, I love how on Marville's tv tropes page, next to the trope name "Artistic License", its says "EVERYTHING"

[@PolarPhantom]

And it's debatable if "Artistic" is appropriate in this context.

[@darastarscream]

@@PolarPhantom Love, in a world where Piss Christ is a thing, *anything* can be art.

[@GrayAndGrey]

@@darastarscream ...dammit, why did you remind me of that?

[@logicaloverdrive8197]

@@GrayAndGrey he ain't wrong tho

[@rexthewolf3149]

@@darastarscream what is that

[@Sonichero151]

"Spike lee is the Kingpin" *It was time for lewis to leave, he had seen everything*

[@alzoruledura7416]

What was with that bit anyway

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

@@alzoruledura7416 What was with Marville as a whole?

[@vilewolf4901]

@@alzoruledura7416 racism lol

[@Tareltonlives]

♫Forgetting you Is a thing that I cannot do ♫

[@taylormansonshadicstorm9008]

Spike Lee is the Kingpin. “Forgetting you, Is a thing that I cannot do” WHAT!!!

[@thomaspalazzolo5902]

Ooo! Now I can marathon the entire Marville sag- *Cut to a ruined skeleton clutching a flaming tablet.*

[@tenofprime]

You know this would have been a good closer for the Halloween month set.

[@samuelbarber6177]

On a desolated wasteland in the apocalypse

[@chs9999]

Marville is nothing but death and crime and The rage of a beast

[@taylormansonshadicstorm9008]

How Ted Turner should have dealt with the meteors: “CAPTAIN PLANET!!!! CAPTAIN PLANET!!!!!!!!!!!”

[@OnDavidsBrain]

@@taylormansonshadicstorm9008 "PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT OR I"LL F**KING KILL YOU!!! CAPTAIN PLANEEEEEEET!!!!!!"

[@cyclone313]

As of 2022, your Ben and Jen joke has aged better than literally anything in this comic. Congratulations to the new Mr. and Mrs. Affleck.

[@Lozzu]

Whoops now they got divorced lol

[@ilopominecrafter]

@@Lozzustill somehow aged better anyway

[@MotownFan1962]

1:10:55 - So, one of your questions for Al, Mickey, and Lucy is: How did you get into space?! HOW DID YOU GET INTO SPACE?! (shakes camera) *HOW DID YOU GET INTO SPAAAAAAACE?!!!* [static, then a "technical difficulties" card]

[@Uthardar]

The worst part of Marville is that it couldn’t make up it’s mind on political issues and philosophy. A comic written by an Idiot and in the end meaning nothing.

[@thatonea-hole]

So basically the Macbeth quote: "It's a tale told by an idiot. Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

[@thatonea-hole]

@ULGROTHA No, it's like short for it is.

[@thatonea-hole]

@ULGROTHA What? When did I say "its mind". I used "it's"!

[@thatonea-hole]

@ULGROTHA Oh ok

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@thatonea-hole the disturbing part is that Bill jemas have actual major in history, philosophy, and economics. and has a juris doctor from HARVARD LAW SCHOOL! Yet reading his "masterpiece in craziness" that is Marville, makes you wonder if professional education is a joke, or what the hell happened between jemas getting those titles and writing marville. that or makes you realize "no matter how "cultured" you are, that doesn't not translate into actual skill in writing" or "you can know a lot about stuff, yet completely disregard it for your own vision of the world"

[@bcleary120]

The epic saga of one man losing his damn mind. Linkara, I mean. The author evidently lost theirs long before this was published.

[@SetoShadowVT]

"PERIOD JURASSIC PERIOD! NOT JURASSIC PARK! JURASSIC PARK WAS THE NAME OF A MOVIE! WHY ARE THEY STILL HAVING THIS CONVERSATION!?"

[@larrypoppins6273]

"JUST END! EENNDD! EEEEEENNNNNDDDDD!!!

[@gracekim1998]

I don’t know 🤔 but even I know the time period isn’t a movie😅

[@Spatu10]

The immediate cut from “a lot more alcohol” to Linkara drunk on the floor works so well XD

[@Spatu10]

Cut from screaming “why” to blankly staring at the camera and passing out was also fantastic

[@richardgadberry8398]

3 hours of Marville? Thank God I bought a hundred gallons of whiskey.

[@Archon3960]

I wish I could buy as much... Damn, was this long. x/

[@TevyaSmolka]

Lol indeed

[@docdave15]

You sure that's enough?

[@richardgadberry8398]

@@docdave15 It is. Barely.

[@VileMike]

@@richardgadberry8398 no... no it was not, episode 3 needed 90 gallons alone.

[@austinleach1307]

I feel like the first joke in Marville sets the tone for the entire "parody" portion of the series. They created an entire page for "necessary" background info so people could better understand the context and jokes, which included the origins of BATMAN, SPIDER-MAN, and SUPERMAN, but the very first joke in the actual story is about RON PERELMAN, who they don't explain who that is.

[@florenceb1031]

1:49:12 "The only genetic changes that persist are those that help you survive in the present." Or those that have no affect at all on survival or reproduction one way or the other. That's why we still have tailbones even though we don't have tails.

[@wolfmantheimpaler]

I want to imagine someone's first time getting into Atop The Fourth Wall, without seeing any of the storyline segments, only to be confused with "I'm a hologram!"

[@gracekim1998]

I started with the movie, mate😂 I’ve been vaguely aware that he does storylines since the airzone solution review

[@michaeliv284]

That was literally me!

[@TheMamaluigi300]

Marville broke Linkara so hard his corporeal form was reduced to a holographic projection

[@DaigoroBond-h5b]

I started watching in 2014. I was so lost I ended up going to His actual website and ended up watching all of his episodes in order.

[@KingKool2099]

7:31 "That's like me doing a joke about Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez... in 2010!" (Laughs in 2022)

[@chibiktsn3]

"2012 is not off to a good start." *laughs in 2020*

[@thatonea-hole]

*CRIES IN 2020* Thank God, we're on the last month of this year!

[@alexandersturnn4530]

@@thatonea-hole For the love of God, don't jinx it! We might end up with another Catastrophe to close out the Year!

[@Sonichero151]

@@thatonea-hole and that's when December 32nd hits.........

[@thatonea-hole]

@@Sonichero151 I mean December is already slated to have bad stuff happen. Hell, on Christmas day, Spiderman into the spiderverse is getting laid off of Netflix! Along with the office near the end of December

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@thatonea-hole wait it is?! I don't even have it in my Netflix (I live in Mexico)?! Oh well. at least i got edge of tomorrow. hopefully netflix eventually uploads ELF, and DOOM PATROL

[@sreckocuvalo8110]

Lewis, the Geneva connection exists for a good reason!

[@richardgadberry8398]

Let's not be too hasty to classify this as torture. Remember, ASBAR exists and we've yet to see the complete Tandy Computer Whiz Kids.

[@davistud]

True

[@10superpower]

I too remember the Geneva Connection. I believe it happened alongside the French Contusion.

[@goodpeople25]

Why are there so many many songs about Geneva?

[@necromancermareful481]

@@richardgadberry8398 your forgetting the complete Holy Terror

[@Vesperitis]

Samaritan from Astro City got his superpowers due to time travel, and it was not only explained with a strong, tragic backstory, it was also incredibly awesome.

[@carlosalmonacid8958]

Heck, Superman: Red Son's origin makes more sense! The sun had become a red giant, so it made sense that a yellow sun would affect him.

[@Xeno7373]

What issue showed his origin ?

[@MrGruzefix]

@@Xeno7373 the last one. its a loop the whole time. He is Luthor*s son iirc.

[@everest5718]

In issue 3 and 4, Marville went full magic school bus. Without a Ms Frizzle to help teach ACCURATE info

[@vfvfq1279]

So Jack is in reality the Bizarro Universe version of Ms Frizzle ?

[@Relichunters01]

If our favorite bus driving lesbian and her pet lizard were here she'd have wapped these morons on the head with a ruler

[@eamonndeane587]

"SEATBELTS EVERYONE!!!"

[@Rabbitlord108]

On that note. I wonder what would be worse. Reading this comic. Or being forced to watch the entirety of The Magic School Bus Rides Again.

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Magic school bus is actually more science accurate than any joke this comic can think

[@codenate02]

"I already had 30 minutes of material on the first issue and I do try to keep these reviews as sort as possible." -This 7-issue review compilation is over 3 hours long.

[@bthsr7113]

He could have taken a lot more time ripping these apart.

[@genesismultiverse4896]

It's a completion

[@Fluffkitscripts]

The entire argument presented against the chopping controversy was “but this isn’t a baseball game”. But the real controversy WAS a baseball game. Yeah it’s a joke, but with great humor comes great responsibility. Then again, there is absolutely no great humor in this comic.

[@roguebritgravy1]

You know that Simpsons episode where homer is at a cider mill and he bumps into Flanders who tells him about the difference between cider and apple juice. I get the same feeling homer had when his brain just said 'thats it, I'm outta here' and we see his consciousness leave his head. He falls down after Flanders finishes speaking. And I don't even own the comic.

[@Pineappolis]

"...and, of course, in Canada the whole thing's flip-flopped."'

[@DeathGodRiku]

the cold open for issue 4 is still one of my favorite jokes. "Pollo, get the booze." "I can't. My arms don't work." XD

[@morganqorishchi8181]

Marville driving Holokara to drink will never not be funny to me. My headcanon is that he was drinking, Harvey came in and went, "Uh, kid? Why're YOU tryin' to get drunk? Aren't you like a week old?" and Holokara held up the first issue of Marville as an explanation. "Ah. Here, let me show you where the kid keeps the strong stuff."

[@Eveonline100]

lol

[@alexandersturnn4530]

Oh dear... Everyone, grab your Booze. We'll be needing every last drop of it...

[@florenceb1031]

Grab your friends' and family's booze as well. No one wants to run out early, right?

[@whitefox411-gamer7]

A group of people who feel bad for the atoms in nuclear fusion/fission sounds like a faction in the Fallout games.

[@EHH246]

Sad thing is Bill Jemas did some good for Marvel like implementing story recaps so that characters didn't have to awkwardly explain what happened in the last issue for new readers.

[@DinoDave150]

That was the last rational decision his brain made before it melted into paste.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@DinoDave150 yet dramatic ironykicks in when you realize the tragedy that how the hell Bill Jemas got the recaps of his own comic wrong when he recommended them in first place

[@DinoDave150]

@@ianr.navahuber2195 Well, when that gray thing between your ears shrivels to the size of a pea, chances are you won't remember much of what you did.

[@andrewollmann304]

1:42:58 Lewis, I don’t know if you ever figured it out, but the word Jack was saying was “crudités” (CROO-dih-tay). Basically, a French way of saying a vegetable sampler plate. So, the comic is basically saying “feel bad for eating plants” again.

[@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944]

I... I want to... I...

[@darastarscream]

Opinions change, associates come and go . . . but the need for booze remains, constant and unwavering.

[@MotownFan1962]

"To alcohol--the cause of, and the solution to, all of life's problems!"

[@trtx84]

It's amazing how quickly this comic completely lost its own plot. By the fourth issue it's like "Hey remember when Ted Turner was chopping meteors in half?"

[@neommox]

Wikipedia claims the writer was a history major or at least was once majoring in history. Like in college. I mean,I guess his biggest issues here are prehistory, but damn.

[@RabblesTheBinx]

He has a bachelor's degree in history with minors in philosophy and economics and a friggin' law degree from _Harvard._ Meanwhile, he screwed up history in this, churned out the worst pseudo-philosophical drivel ever committed to page, nearly tanked Marvel for a second time, and has been sued multiple times. I think it's safe to say that he paid people off to pass his classes.

[@MitchellTF]

@@RabblesTheBinx Or he thought a degree meant he didn't have to think. But his misunderstandings of economicsa re HELLUVA surface...especially for a businessman.

[@ilopominecrafter]

@@RabblesTheBinx maybe he was trying to play mind games until marvel ran into the ground?

[@MrMaxHauser]

@@RabblesTheBinx or he could've just barely passed those classes

[@Tareltonlives]

HOW (brain has conducted an illegal operation and will be shut down)

[@wstine79]

The epic "I don't get the joke" saga.

[@AT4W]

In issues 3-6, the joke is on the reader.

[@wstine79]

@@AT4W Ironically, I discovered your channel around the same time as your first Marville review was uploaded.

[@battlion507]

@@AT4W And we (as in you, me and who owned or read this... "story" of an infamous Editor in Chief... (as usual...) are not laughing today nor tomorrow...

[@Xidphel]

@@AT4W Well, technically 7 but I'll get to that. Get it, guys? It's a reference! It's FUNNY! *LAUGH!*

[@Xidphel]

@@RealGateGuardian Are you saying it ISN'T?

[@AubriGryphon]

1:49:31 Einstein was... like... only barely involved in nuclear weapon development. Szilard was the one who figured out the chain reaction, and it was Oppenheimer and Fermi that turned it into a working device. Einstein just warned Roosevelt about the possibility. His genius was in being able to picture the consequences of relativity in his head, not in designing practical nuclear devices.

[@SiRenfield]

And you’d think they would milk the Oppenheimer one

[@genesismultiverse4896]

To be fair I am pretty sure bill jemas hardly knows any science except Einstein probably doesn't know Einstein is jewish

[@TheZipperDragon]

58:40 Linkara, programmed his hologram to feel pain. That's just evil...

[@TARINunit9]

I just noticed a huge plothole now that they're all compiled in one episode. In Issue 1, Al doesn't recognize the name "Marvel Comics", but in Issue 2 Al says that Stan Lee is studied in college-level American Literature classes!

[@TARINunit9]

@@qty1315 That's still like studying Bill Gates and never learning about Microsoft

[@taylormansonshadicstorm9008]

@@TARINunit9 or Like Studying Sonic the hedgehog yet not knowing about SEGA!!

[@myiachanmagicalgirl]

Guess he failed that class

[@gracekim1998]

@@myiachanmagicalgirl yeah I can believe that 😂

[@sharpsraymeai177]

Oh God your right!

[@Anu_Evil_Queen]

I have to give props to the time machine made out of PS1 and Atari parts, it’s the only really funny joke in this trash fire of a comic run.

[@Fluffkitscripts]

Waitaminnit... it’s “too risky” for the parents to send themselves back in time? What about the 100% chance they have of dying if they stay in 5002?!

[@zafool4997]

Trying to make sense of Marville is like trying to Saw a tree with a hacksaw. It’s complicated and not worth it.

[@Barrobroadcastmaster]

"If you have to explain the joke, THERE IS NO JOKE!" Pretty sure Jemas would've explained the nature of comedy(from his narrow, flawed point of view) at some point. "This is how laughter works, kids! Hilarity to follow."

[@singaporesammy]

"Who makes a movie just called 'Smut'?" Better question: Who puts the label on the side of a VHS tape?

[@RabblesTheBinx]

... people who want to be able to read the title when it's on the shelf?

[@zafool4997]

@@RabblesTheBinx You don’t want ‘Smut’ in the public eye, trust me.

[@FionaOfMountLawley]

38:05 There *was* a film called 'Smut'.. It was released in 1999, three years before the comic. Here's the review: "David Wendell is sure to make a splash with Smut, a convention-defying love story set in a Midwest adult bookstore. Marty (Bandwagon lead Lee Holmes) is headed cross country in search of his destiny when his bike breaks down in dead end New Prairie, Indiana. To raise funds to fix his bike he takes a job at Max’s Adult Emporium. Though Max (Mark Boone Jr.) is a capitalist curmudgeon, there’s more to his establishment than meets the eye, and Marty is quickly charmed by an elderly half-blind junkie philosopher (Melvin Van Peebles) who frequents the back room peep shows. He has less luck with the resident stripper, Mary Jane (Jeanette Goldstein), whose sex appeal relies on elaborate costumes instead of skin. While waiting for Mary Jane’s veneer to crack, Marty finds a video camera in the storeroom and recruits a slacker tattoo artist, Bav, (Meredith Scott Lynn) to help shoot arty documentary shorts featuring the colorful locals. The resulting films turn Marty into a media sensation. Wendell grew up in Indiana and spent his college years in Chicago where he graduated from Northwestern with a film degree in 1992. He then headed for L.A. where he worked as an agent, story editor and development scout while writing screenplays. A stint as director Allan Moyle’s assistant on Empire Records (1995) hooked him on directing and he shot his first short, the 28-minute Elevator Man, the following year. By the time producer Sean Cooley (Montana) met Wendell last June most of the film’s low six-figure budget was in place through private investments, but no one on board had any on-set production experience. Cooley, who’d had $4 million to make Montana, his own debut project, rolled up his sleeves and jumped in. "[Smut] has a freedom-of-speech subtext I found compelling, and I loved the idea of finding a fairy tale love story set in such a bizarre environment," he says. The 35mm Smut was shot in Tujunga, the L.A. suburb seen in E.T., over three weeks in October with leading studio gaffer Jim Grce as cinematographer. Van Peebles is writing an original score and Smut should be done by Easter. All rights are available." It was scored 5.5 out of 10.

[@Symos]

Jurassic Park isn't a tribute. It's a movie adaptation of a cautionary tale about humans playing with forces they don't understand and can't control.

[@Silvershadowfire]

Ah, Marville. The reason that Linkara is going to need a liver transplant in ten years. :) But OMG is it so much fun to hate on.

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Actually needs 5 therapists per issue

[@meganpayette5996]

9:48 - That Robot Chicken sketch still managed to be funny even after all these years compared to Marville.

[@SorowFame]

CAPTAIN PLANET!!!

[@daybreakknight6495]

*CAPTAIN PLAAAAANEEEEET!!!!*

[@Hawkatana]

This is where the fun begins.

[@mitchfletcher2386]

Another happy landing!

[@alexdenty7041]

Hello there

[@XFlare17]

Oh I have a bad feeling about this.

[@DinoDave150]

No, this is where fun gets sucked up, shredded to pieces, and then incinerated into dust.

[@EvilRandomguy666]

This is a pit of stupidity, not fun

[@RabblesTheBinx]

7:30 Due to recent events, this joke has aged _gloriously_

[@zafool4997]

whuh

[@LupineShadowOmega]

@@zafool4997 They got back together, re-married and maybe broke up again.

[@Yurt_enthusiast7]

I reeeeeeaaaaally shouldn't spend 3 hours on freaking Marville, but I will.... again

[@MotownFan1962]

1:17:40 - Coincidentally, "Naked in the Water with God" was the name of a garage punk/gospel album some buddies and I recorded back in college. Didn't sell a single copy. My pastor listened to it and converted to Buddhism.

[@farmerproductions9869]

Oh great Linkara, by putting this together did you think that more people had to suffer through the book’s idiocy as much as you have

[@thegreatstoneddragon9432]

Hey, count yourself lucky. He's giving us the ABRIDGED version. He had to read every single inane bit of "narration" and "dialogue."

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Don't worry just shut your brain or laugh at his suffering

[@becuaseimbored3481]

Mourning the loss of microbes is like crying over a disassembled lego set

[@DinoDave150]

Hey! You take that back! You can make some amazing things with Legos, and to see such wonderful creations being destroyed is nothing short of heart wrenching.

[@falconstudios146]

@@DinoDave150Those creations are made from pieces of other things. Such is life.

[@Blackheartzero]

It's all fun and games till you lose track of a vital component of a Toa and you can't properly put them back together...

[@BionicleFactory]

@@Blackheartzero a man of culture, I see

[@zafool4997]

@@Blackheartzero to bricklink you go then

[@DinoDave150]

First ASBAR, now Marville? We're getting a double decker of insanity here folks! Seriously though, Marville makes ASBAR look like a Stephen Hawking essay in terms of how much sense it makes (AKA None).

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Fun fact linkara for one issue of marville needs 5 therapists

[@villainus957]

A fun note for the topic of evolution: human scientists have witnessed and recorded and demonstrably shown the process of evolution within a human lifetime. In 1971 five pairs of Italian Wall Lizards were transplanted onto an island near croatia and around 2008 they were demonstrably altered and had expanded to a population of thousands. Evolution. So yeah, living humans have seen this and had during the writing of Marville.

[@Pineappolis]

Also that incredibly elegant experiment where a large sheet of agar was injected with an antibiotic in bands of increasing concentration and non-resistant bacteria were introduced to the first, non-injected band. You could watch, in timelapse, as the bacterial cultures hit the wall of one band, broke through as one mutated and its descendants quickly covered _that_ band while being stopped by the boundary of the next until one mutated to have sufficient resistance to break through into the _next_ band and so on.

[@TheMadwomen]

There's also the proof of natural selection from around the same time evolution was theorized! When smog from factories first started polluting the air, it was noticed over time that species of moths changed their color, from white to black, in order to camouflage into their environment better and avoid predators. IT'S BEEN PROVEN!

[@finalstorm9634]

"Marville #1-7 (ALL IN ONE)" ?! LEWIS YOU MONSTER 😈!!!

[@KentaroMiyamoto21]

I'm just gonna pretend the Marville timeline got pruned by the TVA after the end of the last issue.

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Or that al was ridiculously high and psychotic with Mickey and the other one

[@Rampy470]

Fun fact the universe it's set in was retroactively declared Earth-3131, which was chosen exclusively because of the word you get with the letters the numbers correspond to.

[@bloodywilliam3083]

@@Rampy470shouldn’t it be Earth-188919?

[@androzani84productions85]

@@bloodywilliam3083that doesn’t spell “caca”

[@bloodywilliam3083]

@@androzani84productions85 yeah but it means the same thing. S H I T

[@davidspring4003]

Bill Jemas: Captain Marvel isn't doing well cause it's too insular Also Bill Jemas: let's write a parody comic with inside jokes so confusing it requires a guide at the front. Also Also Bill Jemas: never mind, it's now a semi-comic treatise on the metaphysical working of the world as a whole.

[@ruggiebuggie3195]

So, it’s a stupid and aimless parody comic that went, “Hey, let’s talk about God and the meaning of life, so people will think this book is really deep and meaningful.” This book feels like every panel was drawn with absolutely no clue what’s going to happen in the next one. Nothing feels planned. Everything is shot from the hip.

[@Jenin_12]

No. That would be far more entertaining.

[@AubriGryphon]

1:31:55 Unfortunately, the maple leaves in the background don't work. Velociraptor lived 75-71 Mya, which does not overlap with maple trees, which evolved 66 Mya.

[@SnesRulez]

You know, cutting down the time on the "Forgetting you" joke, only made it funnier xD

[@ThatRandomEncounterGuy]

I really love this idea of condensing your multipart series reviews into one video. Tell me: Will the Tandy Computer Whiz-Kids compilation be released before or after the Brute Force compilation?

[@rasengonshuriken]

i don't know which will come out first, but he mentioned on twitter he wanted to wait until a year after the last episode before putting them into a compilation video. so we will need to wait until after July for the Tandy compilation

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

I doubt the "opinions he no longer holds" involves the quality of Marville. Or maybe I'm wrong and Lewis secretly _loves_ Marville now...

[@jdpragmatic8644]

“Opinions you no longer hold?” Wait...don’t tell me you actually LIKE Marville now!

[@a-dub6434]

He still hates marville It's the other opinions he had back in the day

[@freakboy220]

@@a-dub6434 Like what?

[@MrGruzefix]

@@freakboy220 Probably that bit about " don't joke about the police, because some have died in their job". Which a.) is horrible yes, but there are so many jobs that are so much more dangerous, like for example cap driver, lumber jack, miner, etc. and b.) feels kinda weird if you have ever looked into what the Police does on a regular basis. Especially after the high profile cases that happened throughout the last few years.

[@MightyThorngren]

@@MrGruzefix that's weak tea buddy. I wouldn't ever even wanna support someone trashing the police. You dont let a few bad actors ruin a whole group of people. That's how you end up with racism and divisive politics. It's bad form to blanket level whole groups like that

[@davidspring4003]

@@MightyThorngren right a few bad actors. Which is why it happened in literally every major city in the US. Also, if there were good cops...there would either be no bad cops or no good cops, cause the good cops would either report the bad ones (who, in a just world, would be the only one punished) or leave. Since entities like IA and individuals who report corruption within the police are seen as unfaithful or evil within the police, most whistle-blowers are either fired without due cause, ignored until they're killed, or bullied until they leave. That leaves either tbe actively bad cops or the "good" cops who don't report corruption, which makes them bad.

[@Canoby]

"2012 is not off to a good start..." LOL @watching this in 2020. I miss 2012 lol

[@T0BERS]

"CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG AND HAVE SEX!?"-Linkara Best line in the review.

[@genesismultiverse4896]

The boy from mars actually ha she same message watch overly sarcastic productions in one of their videos and see this idiocy is actually a curse going through generation to generation

[@trooper9249]

Marvel editor Tom Brevoort talked about Marville, which he calls "one of the most inept and narcissistic projects the company has ever put out", on his newsletter for the comic's twentieth anniversary: He says the bet came around because Peter David criticized Marvel raising prices on their comics in his column for the Comic Buyer's Guide, which angered Bill Jemas and Joe Quesada. In particular, Jemas, who already didn't like David because he saw him to be a nerd and Jemas considered himself to be "the champion of what he defined as regular human beings in the comic book sphere", initially planned on just firing David and taking over writing Captain Marvel himself. The first issue of Marville was originally written as a new Captain Marvel series starring a new iteration of the character. However, Quesada came up with the U-Decide contest as a promotional event, but Jemas saw it as a way to publicly humiliate David for his insubordination. And when David handily won the bet, Jemas took it gracefully......by putting out a press release declaring himself to be the winner. Also, the losers of the bet were supposed to sit in a dunk tank at a convention to raise money for the Hero Initiative. This ended up not happening. And lastly, Brevoort had a lot of sympathy for the artist of the project, MD Bright who really needed the job at the time and suffered a lot of abuse while working under Jemas. The reason why issue 3 has all the dialogue printed over the art? It's because Jemas hated Bright's work for that issue and was trying to cover it up!

[@williammorahan4907]

So……MD Bright has since moved on to better things, right? And Jemas no longer works in comics?

[@androzani84productions85]

@@williammorahan4907Jemas no longer does anything of note. Meanwhile, despite the comic portraying him as a hobo in the near future, he’s still working in comics and books

[@williammorahan4907]

@@androzani84productions85 You’re talking about Micheal David right?

[@williammorahan4907]

@@androzani84productions85 What’s MD Bright’s latest work?

[@androzani84productions85]

@@williammorahan4907 *Peter

[@Fluffkitscripts]

I can’t understand why that gem of a line “You have to stop! You are freaking me out!” Was overlooked in this review.

[@TF2Fan101]

Something interesting I noticed about a lot of the dialogue: The characters sometimes speak without contractions, which comes across as really weird sometimes.

[@Fluffkitscripts]

@@TF2Fan101 I do not know what you mean, surely that could not possibly affect the comic in any meaningful way

[@battlion507]

For all of this on a bet, what did Joe Quesada, Bill Jemas and Peter David got from this U-Decide Challenge?

[@DrZuluGaming]

A good Captain Marvel run?

[@zafool4997]

@@DrZuluGaming I say that’s a good prize.

[@battlion507]

@@DrZuluGaming Thanks to Peter David. Bill Jemas: A comic called Trouble, basically a prequel slice of life romance comic about the Parker parents, Uncle Ben and Aunt May. And written by Mark Millar... for a romance comic... And Linkara reviewed it: IT SUCKED. Joe Quesada: I dunno?

[@Morningstar91939]

@@battlion507 Joe Quesada made One More Day.

[@zafool4997]

@@Morningstar91939 *insert burning skeleton here*

[@reymafias6404]

You know, after reading the contemporary Peter David run on Captain Marvel I could not avoid the fact of finding a remote similarity on tone and setting with the last issues of this series, regular people joined by an omnipotent being exploring the nature of existance. Perhaps Jemas was trying to imitate, maybe even parody that run? At least that makes more sense than Jemas ACTUALLY having the opinions he expresses in this series...

[@Elonyx.studios]

Watching this after watching the ASsBAR compilation. It's like watching the evolution of the show play out before my eyes. And yet it's fascinating seeing how the shiw has been consistent in comedy & quality for almost a decade now

[@jessaminehaak8253]

"We just can't get our arms around inter-species relationships" Clearly Bill Jemas has never met anyone who plays Mass Effect

[@zafool4997]

or he’ll anyone in general these days

[@rickpgriffin]

ChaosD1's "Wow, THAT'S a new one" is still my favorite gag in this

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

3:03:55 ACTUALLY Secret Wars 2015's Marville was explored. It was home to the "Babies" version of the characters. Thank Goodness it was "Marville" in name only and was a completely different thing

[@nicwaterfill2931]

Maybe the universe that Marville was set in was destroyed during the incursions and when Franklin Richards was bringing the multiverse back, Reed saw the Marville Earth and said to Franklin, “no, son, just let it fade away”.

[@randomlegoguy616]

@@nicwaterfill2931 Probably did the same thing for the universe Trouble takes place in

[@RaphBlade7]

While duckbill dinosaurs were herbivores it should be noted that doesn't mean they can't kill you (such as via stampede like Linkara noted). Heck, Hippos (herbivores) kill more people in Africa than Nile Crocodiles (carnivores), so while they may not eat you, they might still see you as a threat and attack.

[@thanatos_razl]

So Al, Mickie and Lucy didn't think to check the AOL disc that Al brought back with him? The disc with 3000 years of history?

[@MetalB1985]

The chopping "joke" with the meteors was properly a "critic" on "political correctness". In the sense of people would much more like to smugly die, then offending a minority group. Looks like Ted Turner was pissed on political correctness, because it targeted his baseball team. Another drop in the overflowing bucket on why Marville is terrible and offensive.

[@gracekim1998]

Yeah um considering I don’t understand baseball…I don’t understand the correlation 🤔

[@lucasmackey2808]

2:05:07 One: NO! Two: God No! Three: That was a terrible pun! Four: No! No!! No!!! Five: What the hell was Mickey trying to say before Lucy interrupted!? He’s an X-Man or what!? An Avenger? An X force? What was your question Mickey!?

[@Lukedogg13]

These compilations are great when you realize just how far back some of these series go.

[@masterben9592]

Legends say linkara still hasn't recovered from the numerous brain cell slaughtering hangovers caused by Marville

[@TheGrayMysterious]

This comic is what pure, distilled, XXXX-grade high-potency boomer humor looks like.

[@williammorahan4907]

Now that’s just being ageist.

[@TheZipperDragon]

The reason only the fish has thought bubbles in issue 3 is because he's the only one that's smart enough to have thought...Issue 3 is just the most honest about it.

[@idongesitusen5764]

Marville- A test to the endurance of the human spirit. Linkara’s mostly, I’d have quit when Jack entered the picture.

[@michaeliv284]

About the fish feet thing; evolution works kind of in stages. Very likely, the fish developed longer/thicker/stronger fins to better move around in shallow water as they need to push along the ground

[@astrocitizen]

"2012 is not off to a good start." 2021 kinda sh*t the bed in the morning, too. Coincidence?

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

Let's play a game! How many times does Bill Jemas makes you think "Go to Hell Bill Jemas" or makes you flip the finger?! (You could also take this game as a "Take a shot every time Bill jemas makes you angry while making you lose your sanity!") Feel free to add every time you think is worth mentioning too! 50:45 Counter for "Go to Hell Bill Jemas" or its equivalents: 1 1:16:17 Counter for "Go to Hell Bill Jemas" or its equivalents: 2 1:44:05 Counter for "Go to Hell Bill Jemas" or its equivalents: 3 2:12:50 Counter for "Go to Hell Bill Jemas" or its equivalents: 4 2:13:28 Counter for "Go to Hell Bill Jemas" or its equivalents: 5 2:19:47 Counter for "Go to Hell Bill Jemas" or its equivalents: 6 2:25:55 Counter for "Go to Hell Bill Jemas" or its equivalents: 7 2:52:1 Counter for "Go to Hell Bill Jemas" or its equivalents: 8 2:55:00 Counter for "Go to Hell Bill Jemas" or its equivalents: 9 2:56:10 Counter for "Go to Hell Bill Jemas" or its equivalents: 10

[@RabblesTheBinx]

You are much more patient and forgiving than I.

[@ZombieBrainsDev]

I love these compilations. Nice to just put on to listen to for gaming or watching to relax.

[@TevyaSmolka]

The epic saga of one man losing his mind because of a terrible comic.

[@DinoDave150]

Who? Linkara, or whoever's watching this?

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@DinoDave150 lol probably both but mostly linkara

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@DinoDave150 yes. Although at least the audiecne got a blast from watching Linkara suffer

[@DinoDave150]

@@ianr.navahuber2195 True. But I occasionally had to pause and do something else to make sure I wasn't losing my sanity or intelligence.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@ianr.navahuber2195 lol indeed

[@Cellidor]

It's like if the Dunning-Kruger effect became a person and was given carte blanche to write, edit and publish a comic book series.

[@cassie6146]

I remember reading somewhere that Mark Millar now considers "Trouble" to be his worst work (although there's probably a lot of better candidates for that). Surely, Bill Jemas has done the same for Marville by now, right? There's no way he can still stand by this work after all these years and its terrible reputation. He's had to have come out and admitted that everything from the conception to the writing to the penultimate issue lashing out at the audience and the final one advertising a long defunct company was a mistake on his part. Right?

[@donb7519]

i mean joe quesada still stands by one more day and the opinions on super hero marriages and dan didio still stands by all his bad opinions though those are more recent

[@cassie6146]

@@donb7519 Wait, Quesada still doesn't see a problem with "One More Day"? Did he just completely ignore all the criticism and fan backlash?

[@donb7519]

@@cassie6146 i mean pretty much all comic artists and writers do jason aaron still just strawmans his detractors in comics because they make fun of him on twitter dont even get me started on what jen said to bruce

[@cassie6146]

​@@donb7519 Good lord. I can understand not wanting to cater to some of the more toxic portions of a fanbase, but listening to constructive criticism isn't the kowtowing act that those creators think it is. It lets you understand a different perspective and gives you the chance to improve your craft. What's so bad about admitting you made a mistake and then striving to do better?

[@donb7519]

@@cassie6146 because a lot of these creators do it out of a weird moral obligation aarons legitimately thinks having jen walters be like she used to be is bad and immoral so he keeps her a dumb brute

[@thatguywiththetripod8577]

1:51:15 Oh my god I just realized this. Al mentions that Jack should chop the asteroid to pieces, the same way his father, Ted Turner did. And Jack says he can't. THAT means that immortal Ted Turner has a one up on FREAKING GOD.

[@frankrtwiw]

This whole thing, particularly the second half, reads like some kind of Religious Right propaganda. Especially considering Rush Limbaugh is involved!

[@Liliputian07]

ew rush limbaugh I hope he has fun with his cancer. piece of shit

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@Liliputian07 who is rush limbaugh. was rush really his name? is Rush an actual valid name?

[@phoebeaurum7113]

I guess maybe at the time it was but I can't believe that anyone was really reading these comics regardless of politics. The comics were made by a very arrogant and prideful person who didn't know when to exercise humility.

[@camerondodge2070]

@@ianr.navahuber2195 It's only valid if you're a band.

[@cadethumann8605]

@@Liliputian07 Dude, not cool. As a civilized society, we shouldn't wish harm on people, even if they were problematic.

[@zachariahmodersbach7364]

A lot of these jokes would be okay in a short weekly comic strip. It even kind of reads that way.

[@BriahnAznable]

“They contain some opinions I no longer hold…” There’s no way I would have believed in 2012 that Linkara would actually love Marville in 2023

[@AT4W]

More related to real life politics. There was never a time I liked Marville. XD

[@BriahnAznable]

@@AT4W MOSTLY just bein' silly. ;) Love that you still reply to old stuff, I see it a lot! Been a fan since year one, keep on trucking brother! ♥

[@AT4W]

No worries and thanks! All new comments (aside from replies to old comments) are shown in a tab in Creator Studio, so it's easy to respond to anyone making a new one. =)

[@genesismultiverse4896]

​@@AT4W I think he meant bizzaro you considering you need to have a fist for a brain to actually understand it

[@davidcolby167]

What's funny is, giving people money is, by far, the most effective way to alleviate poverty. We've known this for years!

[@mistergio3683]

*sees title* No, NO...NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@Vesperitis]

You mean YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

[@mistergio3683]

@@Vesperitis Yeah sure...let me rejoice for a comic that's so freaking dreadful that Linkara had to drink a big ass bottle of alcohol just to get through this sorry excuse of a serialized story, that filled with NOTHING but a confusing and rapidly-changing plots as well as its blatantly promotional nature.

[@theangryholmesian4556]

In the words of Joshua and the Promised Land: No. NOOOOOOOO.

[@Rixec2]

Ah, the Marville drinking game has started. A game everyone loses while never reaching the end. And even when you don't play the drinking game, you still lose. At least Marville gave us great and entertaining reviews from you over the years.

[@BionicleFactory]

This sounds like a Rod Serling speech except for the last sentence.

[@Torchu212]

"Congratulations, your new store is huge!" - The first (and imo, best) line in all of Marville

[@psychogunner7062]

Because it wasn't mentioned: The monkey in a typewriter theorem is only applicable when the number of monkeys is infinite, and the time given to them is infinite as well, so even THAT is wrong as well Plus, we tried it IRL as well, and before they started typing nonsense garbage, they instead pissed and threw rocks at the computer

[@averagegamecritic]

I have to give props for your intro text. It’s how to do a “Things were different, evolved, and not hide the views, but acknowledge the problem.” Very smart way of discussing something that had past problems that changed views. Not ignoring the changes, but not ignoring the failures either. That alone makes this fantastic sir ☺️

[@Vesperitis]

Literally my favorite series of reviews ever, and only because of how much Linkara suffers.

[@ShadowKnux372]

The opening card makes me feel a bit sad. :( Kinda sets the mood of how everyone will be feeling by the end of Marville, sad, angry, and tired.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Time is a cruel mistress.

[@chaosbug7]

First ASBAR, now Marville. Getting pretty generous putting all these reviews of these godawful comics in a single place for us to watch all at once. I appreciate this and wonder what saga will go up next? 🤔

[@GirXdolly]

I'm happy for these long form review collections, but it makes me fear how long the Youngblood one is gonna be.

[@AT4W]

With Youngblood, since there are multiple different miniseries/series, I'll probably divide it up - in this case, expect a compilation of Youngblood #0-10, won't include Youngblood Strikefile or Judgment Day or anything.

[@Garland41]

@@AT4W That is truly how Youngblood would want it. Have you figured out how to have the video flip over and play some of the videos backwards to truly get the Youngblood experience?