MARVIN GAYE Tortured His TEEN Wife So She CHEATED on Him with TWO R&B Stars

[@TisHotMessHistory]

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[@DeeDerry]

I love your channel! Love From London 😘 Marvin was a mess, Damn

[@TisHotMessHistory]

@@DeeDerry thank you for giving my channel a try. I'm so glad that you love it! Yes Marvin was a total hot mess.

[@DeeDerry]

@@TisHotMessHistory Oh I have been binging on your content! Will share 💯❤ Oh and just to mention, I love the background music!

[@davidlaflamme7246]

Check out “marvin Gaye, My Brother” ....it’s the book marvins brother Frankie wrote and has different insights and perspectives. Thanks for sharing :)

[@izzi666]

Please can you help with the name of the background music.

[@gussygatlin3093]

I'm so disgusted with these men tearing women down. Bless her heart & Thank you for bringing awareness to abuse in Hollyweird

[@ronrutan]

Fair enough. It however isn't one-sided. Every guy I grew up with that tried to simply work and take care of their families ended up with "bored" wives who knew they could leave and get the house, car, kids (child support) and if they guys hadn't had family they could've moved in with.. don't know what they'd have done. It happens all the way around

[@DanceArchives24]

And their descendants and their descendants have only taken the reigns and are doing much much worse to black women. BW r in so much danger.

[@JomoDaMusicMan]

NEVER FORGET THERE IS MORE THAN ONE SIDE TO EA STORY, AND THIS JUST HER SIDE

[@mariecolette170]

co-sign 1000 percent..What really sucks is wen u speak up for women and question why certain men are glorified wen theyve committed atrocities towards many females..ppl get upset n deny the men have done any wrongdoing 😮

[@TaijaMartinez-u1r]

I ALREADY KNEW ABOUT THIS

[@shirleyallen7374]

My aunt was his personal cook when he performed in Pine Bluff, Ark in the early 70's. All her 10 kids sang like angels. Marvin offered my cousins to come to LA to record. My uncle said " Hell no." I'm glad they decided to sing in various churches instead.

[@robot12423]

Aww😋

[@T..1147]

Hello my grandpa is from pine bluff his name was Leroy Gaston

[@esmielong9239]

@@T..1147 . I

[@HelloSpyMyLie]

Biggest mistake of their life

[@renchon10]

@@T..1147 my "Best Man"s whole family is from Pine Bluff. He's very proud of that fact as he should be. His aunt use to own a place called "The Duck In", or something like that back in the day. I may be wrong about the exact name but I will check in with him about it. Everyone I've met from there have been really "down home", good folk! Blessings!!!

[@rosalindwilliams9358]

Marvin's music was and always will be legendary. But his personal life was sad.

[@robertgrant5372]

I really believe Marvin was an undercover batty bwoy too!!

[@timmy841212]

@@normanhenderson7300 Isn’t that ironic?

[@willieduffie4967]

How true.......🥺

[@shanequaaustin8908]

@@timmy841212 It's true though majority of blacks lived are hard. We need to be sympathetic towards one of another.

[@God-Love-Freedom]

R&B and soul is psychological love bombing music. I rarely listen to it anymore.

[@joeyday1252]

Then their daughter Nona winds up getting involved with Prince during a dark period of his life. So strange how children will sometimes repeat their parent's ordeals.

[@ctruth6185]

Generational curses.

[@majik31401]

CHILD ABUSE & NEGLECT ARE THE SEEDS OF EPIDEMIC VIOLENCE OF TODAY

[@God-Love-Freedom]

Not curses. Bad parenting. The responsibility goes to 🥁🥁🥁 bad parents.

[@b.williams9473]

@@God-Love-Freedom Both are true.

[@God-Love-Freedom]

@@b.williams9473 Bull. No, it’s just bad parenting.

[@lauriehenley9788]

You can tell that parents can mess children up when their life is unstable

[@VictoriaMarie08]

When you said Rick James helped with her sobriety..I'm sorry but I almost spit out my coffee ☕ 😆

[@aliciag946]

😩 right 😳

[@chalisjackson6085]

I hollered!!!!!!

[@liveyourbestsoftlife5705]

Right. Probably had her smoking crack and get burnt with cigarettes

[@VictoriaMarie08]

@@liveyourbestsoftlife5705 right lol

[@completely_me75]

😂🤷🏾‍♀️ he knew 1st hand so he would actually be a good example of what not to do 😂😂😭

[@jank358]

I was 14 and visiting an aunt in LA when Marvin Gaye's father shot him. My Aunt lived within walking distance of his parents' home. I'll never forget it.

[@RCooke357]

You were 14? Oh Marvin would've liked you.

[@monilaninetynine3811]

I was 13 and driving home from a church service with my mother. We STILL talk about that day.

[@jank358]

@@RCooke357 lol... I only knew him as a singer (my older sisters had his records) and the fact that his father shot him behind his alcohol/drug use. I had absolutely no idea of his proclivities and wives until this video popped up on my stream 😯

[@KeeKeeSoto]

😳

[@aimeemoore1094]

Wow very interesting

[@Acherrywithasmile]

He was a demon. Listen, he made beautiful music but he wasn't a beautiful person. Hurt people hurt people.

[@xzing7]

He was possessed was the devil himself.

[@fayemijumoke]

Hurting people hurt others

[@1agelessbeauty]

I had always adored Marvin. However, after reading a few books, and viewing this video, I have to admit, he's no better than all those other womanizer's out there. I wished I knew then, what I'm still discovering now. He was a drugged up devil. I first blamed his father for all Marvin's issues. But, as a grown man, in your own control, he knew better. Sickening to say the least🥴😒:[

[@renatareibuddysmama2534]

He battled his demons just like you and everybody else.

[@chaideelove1819]

A real pervert....

[@brandoni241]

Man some of these singers and celebrities are/were just horrible people...

[@TisHotMessHistory]

That is just the plain truth, Sir. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Brandon I!

[@dorannajones5234]

Yes very sad

[@suzy-qwoo6268]

Celebs are talented but I find them gross.

[@qarsiq]

indeed.

[@xaphire6m.860]

Wow. So Marvin basically turned out to be very much like his own father.

[@bsociety4647]

You mean that liked to cross dress?

[@samanthanickson6478]

yep. violence steeped in christianity begat violence steeped in drugs.

[@CJCrump]

That part.

[@katherineharris2354]

Yep he was very sick 😫 cross dressing, even bi ,possible murderer of gay men smh

[@mskimareid5980]

S, z

[@FranPett]

Janice’s life with Marvin was hardly enviable. In fact, it was damn near sad. What a horrible experience.

[@michmex220]

Yes !! I agree , as a matter of fact it was pretty gross🤢🤮

[@doreenbruton8745]

when your young daughter is being,controlled' by a much older man you as a parent is supposed to keep up with your daughters, life and we'll being, see how she is doing, mentally' and make sure she and the kids are safe be there for her as a mother and get dad involved to If you mom and dad are not together.

[@WindDancer435]

I agree. I read her book. Marvin mistreated her, cheated on her with groupies and engaged in deviant behavior.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

So true. People saw pictures and thought that they wanted to be in Janis's place. Little did they know.... Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Fran Pettaway!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

@@michmex220 yes. Definitely add gross to that list.

[@knowledgeisablessing8767]

Nah imagine being a big man going to pick up your girl from her high school. I don't think he ever loved her, he loved his first wife but resented her for having power. This poor girl was just roped in to be a pawn in his games and an emotional punching bag. It's important to teach young girls that these older men don't want you they want to control.

[@dbrown9495]

If they can control you they will. And they can't control their need to control.

[@God-Love-Freedom]

He never loved any woman. Love is sweet and kind. Not cheating and abusive.

[@My3Sunzs]

Facts

[@brendaholman3835]

Exactly, It is all about, Power and Control, period.

[@MaryMartinez-ob2mk]

👊So so true, you said it like it is!👊(✌)

[@josephbaker6169]

People seemed to think these stars are goody 2 shoes an actuality they are surrounded by more demons and temptations than the average man. 😳

[@sharonvizcarrondo5847]

For very sure.

[@linearbrkdwnbro8714]

FACTS.

[@Eastpointe]

Lord have mercy, Marvin was a product of his narcissistic father. Marvin was groomed to be a narcissist and definitely, a manic-depressive and psychotic.

[@brendaholman3835]

Marvin’s father, was a cross dresser, and a very weird and strange, man. And Marvin, had to endure this, behavior, growing up, with his father. I am sure, this, dramatically, effected, Marvin. And, I, am not, in any way, shape or form, making excuses, for Marvin Gaye. Being involved with a child, which is what she was, is wrong and no, he, should not have done, such a, awful thing. But, Marvin, wasn’t, the Only one, into sadistic and cruel things, when it came to how, they treated women, back then. It was sad 😢

[@ThePhoenix3712]

That's still not an excuse to carry on with degeneracy, Marvin could've got the help he needed.

[@ingridcarr4689]

Oh my!! I didn't realize she had passed. Thank you Ti for breaking the story for us. My condolences to Nona, Frankie and the rest of her family. RIP Janis.

[@californiagirl1579]

Rest in peace janis

[@blackirishrose4040]

Most likely he got that violent behavior from his father

[@TisHotMessHistory]

That definitely seems to be the case. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, mergirl2000 Dunne!

[@KA-yw7zj]

Dude was a monster...nikka was kinda evil

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Yeah. It really seems like he was. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, K A!

[@aliciag946]

😩 No wonder why she gravitated to Marvin.. they were 2 hurt people Smh😭

[@tkkirkland8376]

I'm hurt too where my beautiful queen 👸????

[@aliciag946]

@@tkkirkland8376 bruh have a lil talk with Jesus, he'll make it alright!

[@RCooke357]

@Richard Ramirez What an idiotic comment.

[@nickilema1074]

@@aliciag946 fr people stop hurting y’all doing this to yourself

[@mrttamara]

These guys are such creeps. They really take advantage of these young girls.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

I agree, Miss MoMo. It's really awful.

[@notnice4214]

This is disgusting, eye opener for me on some of these celebrities that we idolize. Thank you for this.

[@TaijaMartinez-u1r]

THIS IS WHY GOD STATES DO NOT IDOLIZE MAN

[@nicolemjackson3118]

Doesn't seem the "stepdad" was too protective...in fact it seems he set it all up...the lady never stood a chance from birth & neither did he...they both had a parent that hated them...hope she has found peace in her older tears

[@ramonagoodman3811]

Seem like we heard the song before, where's the parents at th they need to be jailed

[@Mindsetdevil]

So basically you're telling us that Marvin Gaye was also the first R. Kelly? 🤔

[@christinagraham2915]

No the age of consent in Cali then was and still is 17

[@churchnelly548]

Yes!! Marvin DEFINITELY was messing with young girls. He impregnated his first wife's niece, with his wife's permission, because his wife wanted a baby and couldn't have children.

[@zakiyareignshinellc4299]

yep

[@lisajones3599]

She was 16 nearly 17

[@alecialloyed2797]

Disorganized crimes, I thought it was just me.

[@vekywitdagudhair1708]

Sad to say Marvin was a narcissist

[@D22_T]

I’ve never heard of a genius who wasn’t a narcissist

[@TisHotMessHistory]

He definitely seems like a narcissist to me. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Veky Witdahudhair!

[@lorrisanders9772]

The typical Aries

[@kermann-bv8um]

Yes he was and was self destructive. But his father's influence was destructive and he was never right.

[@tomboy5079]

What label would you give a B!@ck woman that says good hair???

[@Nikki-mn6rs]

Marvin clearly dealt with paranoid schizophrenia and maybe even some bipolar as his family and even colleagues described some very odd behavior for years leading up to Marvin‘s death. He would always walk around the house in a robe with a gun inside the robe pocket thinking someone was after him. Maybe the drugs caused the paranoid behavior. Not to mention the fact that he was deeply impacted by the death of Tammi Terrell. If no one else could make Marvin get a pep in his step the beautiful silly Tammi Terrell could and some even speculated that he was in love with her but of course sources confirmed that nothing ever transpired outside of friendship. Her last wish before her death was to go see Marvin perform and there she sat it the crowd frail, ill, but full of joy as I’m sure she could see herself up on that stage with Marvin as she’d always been. He spotted his girl in the audience and of course Went to her with his mic and they sang together for the very last time. Marvin was the only person from Motown that her family allowed at her funeral. Her family despised Motown but especially David Ruffin

[@cherijoseph7819]

Marvin was a drug addict with some depressive episodes. He wasn't a schizophrenic.

[@patttyannhudson]

Someone I used to know and love would do drugs and you want to talk about paranoid I would wake up in the middle of the night to get a drink of water and he would be on his stomach peeking out of a curtain to the back patio where there was nothing back there and years later although I had love for this person, I was informed that he had passed away so I'm sure he never got rid of the addiction and the sad thing about him was that he was truly a very nice person

[@masterprophet8378]

Or maybe, just maybe, Marvin Gaye was evil. * blank stare *

[@AestheticallyC]

Mm seems like excuses you made for him

[@rosemaryrogers1478]

David Ruffin always reminded me of a crow......

[@pamelaford4878]

Dont be the man or woman who is used to break up a marriage...no matter what state the marriage is. If you know the person you are dating/want to date is married, move on to a single person. Keep that negative drama away from your life.

[@KeeKeeSoto]

The greats are always the most scandalous. It's like their demons perfect their art 😭

[@garealemcgill6967]

Usually thats how it is

[@BroSimon4]

Some of them, but there are exceptions. Stevie Wonder is a musical genius and he has good character and integrity. Marvin Gaye had a lot of issues, but it seems to me that he was also very kind and generous and sincere. His poor mental health made him incomplete.

[@alvarinenelson5243]

Amen

[@creating1_c1999]

Their demons don't perfect their art, the enablers who allow it to go unchecked because of their talent allow them to perfect their art.

[@KeeKeeSoto]

@@joeiiiful you sound crazy as hell lol

[@katinawhitley9340]

Dang Marvin was messing with a 17 yr old when he nearly 35 yrs old .. 😱

[@YoungYahtz94]

It seems crazy now but back in those day’s that really wasn’t a big deal in fact it was kinda common

[@tkkirkland8376]

@@YoungYahtz94 very common all the presidents from back then 1700s 1800s had underage girls as slaves they were messing around with. All the rock & roll singers from the 50s 60s & 70s like Elvis. R. Kelly ain't the only one he was just the only dumb one to record videos of it

[@tkkirkland8376]

@KissKiss Tatum its still going til this day it just depend on who the person is. Jay-Z had Rhianna in his 30s she was 17, kodak, tekashi got caught with underage girls. It really don't matter unless u R. KELLY seem like it

[@traceylennon1204]

@@YoungYahtz94 Yea it was!! #facts

[@vivianthompson4750]

Who cares.

[@a_ya_la]

Teddy & Marvin were crazy as hell! Ooh Chile! all the dots are connecting!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

LOL! They surely were crazy! LOL @ the dots are connecting! Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Ayala-j!

[@aundreshabazz9624]

Real POS 😶🤯😞😫

[@valeriewilliams5443]

And thats why teddy and marvin, had tragic deaths..karma!

[@Texas903G]

Nothing worse than a Narcissist with some money.

[@madamenoire6830]

If this information is true what a sick individual Marvin was. I guess ain’t nothing changed but the weather. A grown man with an underage child , yes 17 is a child. Yuck...

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Yes. 17 is definitely a child. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Madame Noire!

[@melissasmorris2210]

That was disgusting but so was his first wife she was 17 years his senior too😩😩😩😩

[@melissasmorris2210]

@Apollo Mayaimi my grand parents were 3 years apart on both sides, even my great grand parents were 4 years apart.

[@melissasmorris2210]

@Apollo Mayaimi no I get it but people also got married earlier my grandmothers was 17 and my grandfather was 21 when they got married and started having a family. Same with my mom and day he met her when she was 17 and he was 22 been together for 39 years married for 31 years, so I get it.

[@ctruth6185]

@Apollo Mayaimi No. You're wrong and disgusting on so many levels. GTHOH!

[@matlynsmith5]

She was the child in that situation, there was no control until she grew up more!

[@dashloves97]

Oh wow! This is Nona Gay’s mother?! I wonder will Nona ever do a tell-all book or story about her upbringing?

[@JamalHale12345]

That would be something

[@ChiTownChei]

I hope she doesn't.

[@adriennerobinson1180]

I doubt if Nona will write a book.She was a child then.

[@leslierudolph3455]

Nona Gaye started getting high with her mother and got angry at her when she got clean

[@dashloves97]

@@leslierudolph3455 wow!

[@jameelthompkins7835]

As the story goes he started seeing her when she was around. 14 or 15. I had the pleasure of meeting the then bodyguard of Marvin and in his words at 14 she was hanging out with him in the studio all hours of the night. It's sad she endured the trauma she did so early because her parents were losers. Sounds like she may have even been apart of a system to prepare children for abuse. To have power like Marvin did it isn't far fetched he may have been involved in some of these secret society's.

[@lalaland3378]

She was actually 17. Which makes it no better.

[@sheilakayhill2483]

Janice, had just turned 17 when she meet Marvin

[@jameelthompkins7835]

@@sheilakayhill2483 so that makes it ok?? Sheila would you be ok with a 40 something year old man dating your 17 year old daughter?

[@lashurediscussion4970]

I can believe jameel, that Marvin meet and groomed her at a young age but came out in public when she was 17.

[@lashurediscussion4970]

@@jameelthompkins7835 this is why nothing is ever done with predictors, folks are always going to justify the situation. The bottom line is she was underage. What I don’t understand is why mothers turn a blind eye.

[@-savannah]

When you said Rick James helped her to get clean,I did a double take

[@TisHotMessHistory]

LOL! I did a double take when I read it. Thank you for commenting, Savannah Rivers Amore-Dupree!

[@lateshalewisreaddon2284]

My Very First Celebrity Crush was Michael Jackson, when he was with the Jackson 5!!! I just knew I was gonna marry him!!! 😂😂😂 May He Rest In Paradise.❤❤❤

[@evelynchambers5070]

Girl, we would have had to fight for michael, lol

[@michaell3711]

The founder of skin bleaching !!! Great musician.

[@michaell3711]

@S T ,,, Tell them for me .

[@adrielmoody]

@S T But then again, he put Diana Ross on the highest pedestal.

[@liveyourbestsoftlife5705]

Exactly

[@k.d.3664]

I was 17... my first crush was Charlie Wilson and it still is! Love his soothing voice...

[@liveyourbestsoftlife5705]

And his crush was crack and ugly Becky's he married.

[@Auntkekebaby]

@@liveyourbestsoftlife5705 lol

[@christinagraham2915]

@@liveyourbestsoftlife5705 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TisHotMessHistory]

I am almost sure that you are the first person to name him. Thank you for watching and commenting, K D!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

@@liveyourbestsoftlife5705 LMAO! Stop it!

[@saritasamples100]

This is so unreal to hear this about Marvin Gaye and his friends. Poor girl. Thanx for the upload.

[@theogberkeleygirl]

The Anna and Marvin story is one to tell cause she sent him on a whole rollercoaster the here my dear album was about her

[@odot8148]

My favorite body of work ever made, purple rain is the only thing remotely close. Feels like Marvin is with me whenever I play that album. Criminally underrated piece of work by Marvin.

[@foreveringrid5821]

The Album was mostly about Anna Gordy.. It was the last hold of anything She was Holding over Him. She also got the proceeds from the Album.

[@brandigrogan83]

Yes. He let the album flop intentionally, so she contemplated suing him.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

I just might tell their story. It is on my list of potential topics. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Simply Felicia!

[@hand2handmc]

@@foreveringrid5821 one of the best double albums ever made right up there with Stevie wonder songs n the key of life

[@nubianra6965]

I am grossed and disgusted by the story, if this is true Marvin Gaye was a monster as much as I admire his music I'm disgusted. Is this what these drug infested pimp like entertainers do to innocent young women.

[@angelicaflores6559]

Unfortunately I seen young girls go after older men, especially now this days. If she had two babies from him she must love him.

[@majik31401]

@@angelicaflores6559 THATS WHY GIRLS NEED FATHER FIGURES POSITIVE MALE FIGURES IN THEIR LIVES

[@lucypollard6012]

I can amagine a grown ass 35 yr old playing mind games with a kid..he knew he had the upper hand and thats why most guys pick young girls so that they can control them and their mind...

[@lauriejames9740]

Exactly, my ex is 43 with a 23 year old. It's all manipulation.

[@Livermore1234]

Did René Angélil desire to "control" Céline Dion?

[@NaieraP9211]

@@Livermore1234 most likely

[@traceylennon1204]

Younger girls feed into everything..very impressionable!

[@roseeze166]

I dont think so. I think men just find younger women more attractive

[@JasmineNothanks]

This is such a wild story it leaves me with so many thoughts. He was a very handsome man but he had so many demons. My mom used to say "I brought you into this world and I can take you out". I always thought about Marvin when she said that. Thanks for sharing this, I did not know any of this.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

The fact that you thought about Marvin when your mother would make that statement. The only word in my head is "wow". Thank YOU for watching this. I love sharing this information with people who are new to it. Thank you so much for your comment, Jasmine Nothanks!

[@adriennerobinson1180]

Wow,I didn't know Janice Hunt's Mother was White,and she was foster care as a child. Now the story is coming full circle. I am sorry she endured this.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

I'm glad that I could share something new with you, Adrienne!

[@adriennerobinson1180]

@@TisHotMessHistory Yes, Thank You

[@lionfromjam7282]

Sade was, and still is (45 years later) my celebrity crush. Listening to her music was like being on a date with her. I have all her albums and concerts videos which I still listen/ watch at least once a month.

[@marygraden-wyatt2713]

Maybe 35 lol

[@TisHotMessHistory]

She's a beautiful woman. Thank you for watching and commenting, LionFromJam!

[@ricolewis2949]

Hang On To Your Love is probably the greatest song ever

[@bettiefullum1138]

We dont knowbwhat marvin endured growing up, he was molested by an uncle. Too sad,for him, his family and wives. Can you imagine sonebody always needing something froom you?from money to having to take car e of your family,no.peace

[@Basketballdad0308]

Pleasure Principal Janet Jackson, I would watch the video 100 times on VHS!

[@texascreekcowboy1587]

I don't think I can listen to Marvin anymore, without thinking about his personal life now.

[@blancamiranda7424]

That was the 70s....in the industry👤

[@MsBee-nj9kp]

I feel the same!!! He was a horrible person 😔

[@traceylennon1204]

Especially "Come Live With Me Angel"

[@1agelessbeauty]

@@MsBee-nj9kp I thought I was the only person, who admittedly felt this way. I've read a few books regarding his life. But, I still can not find a path to having sympathy for him. Especially in his earlier years at Motown, calling little Stevie Wonder a "little blind sucker" All because Stevie was ahead of him, to go on stage. I felt that was so mean and nasty of him to say. As a full grown man, up against a blind boy. Shame on him. All my compassion and sympathy goes to his late mother. That woman endured a whole lot!!!

[@marshamcghie8407]

@@rashaadbrown175 ..This ia all true. This information has been out there for 40 years both in articles and other biographies on Marvin Gaye.Jan just decided to confirm it in her book

[@joebrewer3748]

So this is why a movie about him hasn't come out. He got too much dirt. I didn't know about all of this

[@mthobelinathanheshu8423]

A movie about Marvin Gaye would be like heaven to me, even if it has dirt. I remember reading that Ray Charles told the makers of the movie about him to tell 'everything'.

[@creating1_c1999]

Joe, it's far worse than this. Marvin was a great artist, but very complicated individual.

[@dedebradley9743]

Right

[@marmackk]

@KissKiss Tatum Its all true,its in Jan's book and has been corrobated in other books written about him and biographies

[@KJ-xc6qs]

I ordered Janis' book today. How ironic that of all people, Rick James helped her reach sobriety. Always loved his music too. Apparently, we mere humans are composed of many strengths, weaknesses, and contradictions.

[@DonaldSmith3xs]

WTF Marvin...I knew his life had a tragic ending but never knew he was on this weird shyt like a lot of these other mainstream artists

[@majik31401]

ITS IN HIS AUTOBIO DIVIDED SOUL RELEASED 1984

[@Lioness417]

Frankie Beverly was too damn fine in his prime wooooo weeeeee

[@helenhamilton9561]

Still Sexy

[@jazzymoni7750]

It's amazing what stars were able to get away with back in the day before social media. Their indiscretions were fiercely guarded and protected. Every now and then you would hear rumors, but only the really bad stories broke into mainstream media and that was rare. Celebrities had the allure of mystery because what they did offstage or offscreen was left to the imagination. As a child of the early 70s, I liked it better back then. The good thing for today's world is that predators are outted faster because of social media.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

I understand what you're saying. I was born in the mid 70's and I liked thinking that celebrities were larger than life and mysterious. As an adult, I like knowing that they are just regular people with extraordinary talent. Some of them are good people and some are horrible. Thank you for commenting, Jazzy Moni!

[@oliviapearson7856]

Celebrities, ministers, priests.....

[@assiabenslimane2589]

Is still the same the power to be out only who they want 😂

[@God-Love-Freedom]

Not just celebrities - this mess is enabled throughout Black culture.

[@bettiefullum1138]

So so sad fir sll involved marvin,anna an jan and so the children

[@artofmickeypicasso9191]

It's a tragedy. I will remember him for his music. The rest is between him and the creator. Ain't nobody perfect.

[@pg3460]

I'm sitting here flabbergasted. I really loved Marvin back in the day but I never knew all of this smh

[@miaporche2256]

That lady was so beautiful!

[@byronjones9299]

And that is where it starts , not that it's any of her fault. ( Alledgedly )

[@octavianapanait1918]

Beautiful but..only this unfortunatelly.

[@harleypage5789]

When I was a teenager I was NEVER attracted to men that much older, I don't understand

[@lorrisanders9772]

So sad...her childhood made her so vulnerable and weak...

[@SmarterNotHarderIn2024]

In Janis' book with David Ritz, she talked about Marvin Gaye's insecurities and stage fright. He turned down A LOT of opportunities to make money. One minute he would accept a gig and then weeks later would turn it down. He knew he was gifted but he was also afraid of not being accepted. He put her through a great deal of ish!

[@monilaninetynine3811]

Marvin was unbelievably insecure and had the lowest self esteem in the world. The sad thing is everything he did to Jan, he was also doing to himself.

[@liveyourbestsoftlife5705]

Typical

[@commanderwatchman9994]

Talented but a bunch of whack-jobs!

[@sugarae7461]

I read “After the Dance” and according to her it was after they broke up that she slept with Teddy, Frankie Beverly (who he had a major crush on) and Rick James (who was responsible for getting her clean).

[@miagrass]

@@monilaninetynine3811 well when you think about it that why he had a partner that woman who sing with ain't no mountain everything was great until her death and he was alone with no on that stage with him.

[@jaye8872]

I read Janis' book and you have more information about her than that book does. I had no idea that her mother was white and that she was biracial. You give more detail about your biographies. Janis just shares what she wants people to know. I love your site and will always keep coming back!

[@johnnyman9513]

might be fairytales, janis didnt say alot of those things quote claims she said etc.. only marvin and janis really knew the fine details so where is all this info if not from them two?

[@adriannetatum8899]

My all time crush was big black fine as "vintage wine" Gerald Levert, the teddy bear😍😷

[@KW-nl8mo]

I Love Nona Gaye. She’s a Beautiful young lady. Now I know who her Mother is. Her Mama went through a lot!!!

[@211sweetypie]

I've heard a different version of the cheating. It's said that Marvin encouraged Jan to cheat with other men and that he himself would cross dress in private when he was alone in Hawaii. He was truly a tortured soul. R.I.P Marvin.🌹

[@traceysbodytreats257]

Very tortured.

[@theresagallagher9161]

Don't make excuses for him..... tortured soul? He had no soul. A voice yeah but no soul.

[@cookiengreg2752]

Yup! There’s a book she wrote. He was g@y too.

[@kennethvidales7581]

@@theresagallagher9161 did you know that Marvin was abused by an uncle? It's harsh to say he had no soul.

[@lmiller6675]

@@cookiengreg2752 I didn’t read that in the book.

[@msohsosolo]

Ti, you’ve done another FABULOUS job on this piece. This is definitely your lane & no one does it as thorough & eloquent as you!👈🏾👏🏾🤩🏆

[@HoneySuckle123]

👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@KeeKeeSoto]

Agreed 🥰

[@TisHotMessHistory]

WOW! Thank you so much for the compliment, Ms OhSoSolo!

[@HoneySuckle123]

@@TisHotMessHistory Yes, we appreciate your work Queen 👑

[@HoneySuckle123]

@@KeeKeeSoto Just subscribed to your channel 🥰

[@neldab2]

this should show these young Girl, the results and pitfalls, of a child in an Adult world,

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Good point, neldab2!

[@cosmicneuromelanatedgoddess]

Damn BM been colorist for decades 😂

[@suzycarmichael933]

Facts!!!!!!

[@blackirishrose4040]

And that's why I don't fuck with them because every time they get money they leave us for the biracials or Becky's. They display aggressive behavior when we do not submit to em.....

[@cosmicneuromelanatedgoddess]

@@blackirishrose4040 I definitely agree

[@yvonce7309]

@@blackirishrose4040 Non black women get the same bad treatment as BW. Don’t fool yourself.

[@tabbypanda82]

Extremely disheartening😒

[@cecilyoung5042]

It is so sad that a Black man could try to destroy such a very young , innocent ,and sensitive young Black female. I question if he truly loved her or if he only saw her as asexual conquest . One would think that he would love her and give her the security that she needed after what she has endured . So sad of a story.

[@yesthatmarilynn]

This is the biopic we need

[@coragant9887]

Marvin Gaye,was my love. Damn he was a nut case,I hate I read that girls life

[@TisHotMessHistory]

It would definitely make for an interesting story, Curlzandcoilz!

[@lsmith6718]

My celebrity crush was El Debarge. Still is💕

[@TisHotMessHistory]

I have seen a number of women here name him. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, L Smith!

[@sabrinasincerely7488]

😍

[@helenhamilton9561]

Bobby, Chico

[@majik31401]

@@TisHotMessHistory AND THE DEBARGES HAVE A MAJOR SAGA TOO

[@lanacampbell-moore4549]

Michael Jackson was my first crush when he moonwalked on Motown 25 I instantly fell in love lol😍

[@tkkirkland8376]

U is Michael Jackson

[@khartgarrett]

Yep same for me. I even taught myself to moonwalk and won a dance contest at school. I was 9 years old lol

[@TisHotMessHistory]

That's a cute story, Lana Campbell-Moore! Thank you so much for watching and commenting!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

@@khartgarrett you go girl! LOL!

[@lanacampbell-moore4549]

@@TisHotMessHistory Thank you & I love your channel 👌😊

[@bigsteeevfromtx2420]

He took getting it on to a whole new low. Wooweeh!!!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

He really did. That's a good way to put it, Big Steeev From Tx.

[@anyetalael191]

her biography was a good read, however the reader must keep in mind the events transpired way before women knew how to be entrepreneur's and learned to use their voice....

[@creating1_c1999]

Janis wasn't the first young girl he courted, let's not exclude Bianca Lawson's mom (Denise Gordy) who had that child (Marvin III) he was raising with Anna.

[@kayesmith9781]

He tried so hard not to be like his father that he was just like him.... he did not like it when his father was hitting and miss treatment his mother.

[@1agelessbeauty]

He father, never hit his wife. Get the facts!!!

[@kayesmith9781]

By book his sister wrote he did

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Yes Kaye Smith. It seems like Marvin just couldn't outrun being just like his father. Thank you so much for watching and commenting.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

@@1agelessbeauty most biographical pieces on Marvin Gaye, including the ones in which he contributed material, state that Marvin's father would beat his mother as well as Marvin and his siblings. Kaye has the facts.

[@lindaadams1008]

Ti, I never knew all of this information... Thanks for the story...

[@TisHotMessHistory]

I'm always thrilled when I get to share these stories with people who are new to the information. Thank you for giving my channel a try. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Linda Adams!

[@Marimarr59]

I never knew any of this...I'm completely blown away by this to the freaking point of never ever listening to his music ever again! He was a demon in disguise!!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Hi Nancy Arellano! I'm glad that I could share some new information with you. I never knew A LOT of Marvin Gaye's story until I started doing research for this channel and I can't listen to him anymore either. Thank you for commenting.

[@lmiller6675]

I will definitely continue listening to his music. You people are a trip. If she loved him so much why write about him treats after his death and after being divorced for years . She didn’t have to participate in any of the things that she did. She was young but knew exactly what she was doing. Did you all read the book about what she said about trying to seduce him and was going to do whatever to make sure she had him. She could have left at any time

[@jacquelineperry2168]

His sister said drugs ruined his life and I think the farther was protecting himself when he killed him.

[@juicyhudson513.]

Man i never knew Marvin was like this yo he was on some R. Kelly shit.

[@monica62888]

Exactly

[@myylegib8119]

No he wasn’t 🤣🤣🤣

[@churchnelly548]

Since Marvin was born first, it's R. Kelly that's on some Marvin Gaye sh**!!!

[@collettedaniels3884]

My first celebrity crush was Jean-Claude Van Damme. I look back at Double Impact and go “Lord what was I thinking?” Then again, I was only in the sixth grade.

[@fayemijumoke]

Yeah you're both right Van Damme was damn handsome when he was younger. He's also called the muscles from Brussels!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

LOL! That's cute Collette! Back then, I can understand it. I think that you might be the second person in this comment section to name him.

[@TARAsiNSPIRATION]

My 1st celebrity crush and still is Walter Williams of the Ojays. I love his smooth voice, the way he moves is just so cool, he has swag. As a little girl, I would daydream that we were married.

[@Dougie19xx]

TOO damn fine!!!

[@dwatson3995]

Right!!!

[@nicolemjackson3118]

Walter is STILL Handsome🖤

[@justdevine864]

How sweet!

[@renla71]

I've always loved that man and his voice. I just didn't know why because I was just a little girl but now I realize I was crushing on him. LOL

[@Topicsorare]

Trigger Warning frfr! Never ever ever put another human on a pedestal because we all have a shadow side for real. This story is crazy.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

That's good advice. EVERYONE has that dark side.

[@jamela6357]

Marvin Gaye was weird and I am glad she got through it all and God bless her always 🙏🏾

[@yvonneemberton4508]

Wow, that moment when you stop feeling bad because your not alone 👏

[@brendaholliday6866]

Ti, I enjoyed your old school video about Marvin Gaye and his second wife, Janis. I had no idea that this young teenager had not only experienced a horrific childhood but an adulthood, as well. I once heard a psychiatrist say that "we're genuinely comfortable with the surroundings that we grow up in as adults," of course there's always exceptions. I was thrilled to hear that Janis is in recovery from drugs, I hope that she's doing well. Great investigating of this video, as you always do. Also, I was shocked to hear that Rick James helped Janis to get off drugs. Take care 💞

[@rosajohnson5212]

I was shocked to hear Rick James helped her get off drugs as well!!! Thank God he showed his caring side!!! Whoo!!!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Brenda, I think that the most shocking part of this story for me was the part about Rick James too. Thank you so much for coming to the premiere! See you Sunday! Have a great week!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

@@rosajohnson5212 Amen to that!

[@mirandabarnes5316]

Didn't rick James overdose?🤔🤔

[@adriennerobinson1180]

Truth Indeed

[@BleezChoice]

I knew Janice from Jr.High thru High School in Jr High she was a very shy girl she was very nice when I would consider her a friend

[@Abenigfilms]

What part of LA?

[@Lioness417]

This is why I stay FARRRRRRRR away from older men

[@rebelflower7339]

Me to.

[@thelovely1553]

His album I want you was dedicated to Jan. I use to think how sexy n loving it was to have a whole album dedicated to u until I read about their marriage...all that glitters isn't gold.

[@personalpersonal9202]

Marvin was damaged and scandalous. As a little girl, Blair Underwood was my huge crush... then, Gary Dourdan. They still have it!

[@faithford9143]

I used to get so jealous when I was listening to Marvin gays music he was singing to Janice. he will call her names out in the song that I love and I’m like who is this Janice Lady, now I see she was beautiful. Michael Jackson

[@queenkaili3243]

Same! Whole time, there was trouble in paradise 😂

[@faithford9143]

@@queenkaili3243 That makes me feel a little better now so sad to say

[@LoveFirstYou]

Sorry, I'm not sure why you've ended your comment with Michael Jackson. Can you please explain? Was it Michael Jackson who stated those words that you wrote?

[@faithford9143]

@@LoveFirstYou She asked who was your first celebrity singer That you crushed on I said Michael Jackson

[@LoveFirstYou]

@@faithford9143 Got it! Thank you.

[@charlescarter1859]

Wow, this was kinda of depressing!

[@charlescarter1859]

@Frederick Wells Right, some shit should be just left alone. Smh !

[@MKRob]

Marvin Gaye was my first celebrity crush but now I'm a bit disgusted. Damn! My fantasy was just ruined.

[@nickilema1074]

How old were you when you were crushing on him?

[@MKRob]

@@nickilema1074I was about 16. That was when I was introduced to his music.

[@Michaelraymondonkeys]

Lost all respect for Marv after watching

[@lwajid8021]

Illusion gone but the voice remains, a tortured soul

[@TisHotMessHistory]

I lost respect for him after learning this story. I loved his music for years. I was shocked. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Michael Williams.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

@@musiclover2.06 get a life and some comprehension skills.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

@kayla vibess go get therapy so that you can deal with why you idolize celebrities, weirdo.

[@Michaelraymondonkeys]

@@TisHotMessHistory indeed

[@doreenbruton8745]

Rest, in peace'Marvin Gaye'💔💌😘

[@justiceastobe1097]

Rest in peace????? Really? Am not sure.....

[@aimeemoore1094]

That's why he had so many demons cause he was never living right

[@capcitymediagroup831]

That started with his father

[@aimeemoore1094]

@@capcitymediagroup831 true and his mother. His dad was a preacher but walking around in woman clothing in the streets of DC

[@capcitymediagroup831]

@@aimeemoore1094 yeah got teased cause of that and his last name he kept trying to please his father up until the last day of his life.....he also over masculinity with woman to keep trying to prove he wasn't gay....hus father really messes him up

[@aimeemoore1094]

@@capcitymediagroup831 right so many of these famous black families back then with big issues. He also got his first wife 15 year old niece pregnant so they could have a baby. What about Jermaine jackson married his brother ex wife and having kids with her. Yes, this been going on before I was born and to this day. But I still be mind blown cause it's so nasty

[@aimeemoore1094]

@@capcitymediagroup831 then he trick out his second wife and took advantage of her cause she was young. She was so beautiful and still is. Plus I'm sure most of the time he was high on whatever

[@msjerseyd-thc]

All I could hear was rick james song "17" playing in my head when u first started..😂 wow! Great video as always!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

That's funny! Because no lie, I kept thinking about Super Freak, but thinking about Janis's mother as the lyrics were playing in my head, MsJerseyd - THC!

[@msjerseyd-thc]

@@TisHotMessHistory Now that's funny..lol

[@christinagraham2915]

Was that song about her

[@msjerseyd-thc]

@@christinagraham2915 yea right..I wonder!

[@dorancoleman2377]

That was one legendary live chat bio of Marvin Gaye I loved it can't wait till your next live chat

[@queenladybug1702]

Shucks, I missed the live chat 😔

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Thank you very much, Doran Coleman! I will post it on my Community Tab and on Twitter when I go live again. I hope that you can come!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

@@queenladybug1702 I hope that you can catch the next one!

[@queenladybug1702]

@@TisHotMessHistory absolutely 💯

[@adriannetatum8899]

If we took these stars background to heart we'd be listening to NOTHING! Just appreciate the wonderful music they made😍😷

[@BinkyWomack]

Yea!! Mind yo Business. Why do you do all these 50yr old dig up dirt gossip stories??

[@wonderwoman66dp]

@@BinkyWomack why are u watching it? Don't be mad cuz wats done in the dark is brought to the light. U must have a nasty secretive past . . .

[@wonderwoman66dp]

*Adrianne Tatum* I for 1, wldnt mind not listening to anything, cuz I'm canceling scumbags left & right. But, to each his own.

[@shiabutterfly8361]

@@wonderwoman66dp well you might as well turn off the tv and radio foreeeevvvvaaa

[@BinkyWomack]

@@wonderwoman66dp I was trying to find one that wasn't based on hear say and gossip.

[@charleymartinez-rodriguez8358]

If R.Kelly heard Hollywood stories like this this which am sure he did know wonder he thought he should get away with the things he did.

[@3xbadboy264]

Denise Williams.....my first crush🤩🤩 as a young man! "Silly"...still love this song 'til this day! And, of course, Denise still looks awesome!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

She was and still is beautiful. I love that song and have always been a fan of her voice. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, B Mdx!

[@3xbadboy264]

@@TisHotMessHistory My pleasure! I enjoy watching your vids! You have a great voice for narration, as well as love your comments and sense of humor! After watching your vids, I've learned a lot of unknown info on a variety of artists such as, Marvin Gaye, Teddy Pendergrass, Al Green, and especially Bobby Womack. I grew up reading/learning about them, but didn't know all of the 'details'...so what you share is definitely informative. Yes, Denise Williams and Vanessa Williams were the first 2 women I had a crush on (despite the Penthouse scandal with Vanessa). I saw the pics of her as I got older and just wondered 'why'?...or assumed about her preference. However, when I saw her on Oprah's show, finally, I understood why. What's funny about Denise, I loved "Silly", as a young man but had no clue what is was about! I loved her voice but mostly the arrangement of the music! It's truly amazing how we can enjoy so many different things and Not truly understand the messages that are hidden! (TV shows, music, music vids, etc). Thanks for taking the time to respond directly to me....you're awesome! And yes, I am a subscriber! If you need content ideas, or just want to share something or get my opinion, please feel free to drop a line. If interested, I can pass on my email address. Keep up the great work! Keep in touch and look forward to your next vid!

[@ricolewis2949]

Let’s Hear It For The Boy

[@humanr.e8529]

This gives a whole new perspective to the "I Want You " album which has songs written just for her WOW

[@christinagraham2915]

Leon ware wrote it

[@christinagraham2915]

@@humanr.e8529 leon ware wrote the entire album

[@humanr.e8529]

@@christinagraham2915 ok. The album is still about Janis and listening to the songs with the new information about their relationship is interesting

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Knowing this story really does give a new perspective to that album. Thank you so much for watching and commenting RE White!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

@@christinagraham2915 Ware did not write the entire album. Every song had 2 to 3 co-writers and Marvin Gaye was a co-writer on 5 of the songs. Ware was a co-writer on all of the songs, but there is not one song that anyone wrote in its entirety.

[@mairekinner]

Marvin Gaye shouldn’t have never with there🤷🏽‍♀️ young ladies don’t have the mind set for commitment at such an young age🤦🏾‍♀️

[@oumsu1162]

Thank you for sharing this story. It made sense to me.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Hi Oum Su! Thank you for watching.

[@uniqueorganicshaircare9880]

Most men who truly love their mothers, love their women the same my husband is like this. But baby my pretend 1st husband was on something different...