Maserati vs The World - TheSmokingTire

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Maserati isn’t playing around with its new Grecale Trofeo. Based on the Alfa Stelvio platform, the Grecale features style, performance, features and quality previously unseen in anything from the boutique Italian brand. It has the twin-turbo V6 engine from the MC20, a stellar, balanced chassis, a great stereo, comfortable seats, and a supercar soundtrack. But how does it compare to the X3M, Macan GTS, and Jaguar F-Pace SVR?
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[@TheSmokingTire]

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[@omg_stoppit]

Matt's watch ID? That's a gorgeous chrono.

[@nickbaum679]

Just and fyi: Got a typo on the video for the website.

[@jody024]

Maserati engineering doing everything Audi doesn't, i like it.

[@JayB8319]

Honestly guys, this is the perfect balance of new and old formatting for TST. 👌

[@crfrider57]

I would love to have the Grecale Trofeo....BUT...... We do own a 2022 Stelvio Quadrifoglio which we absolutlely love. I don't feel the Grecale Trofeo is worth $38k more than our Stelvio QV. The MSRP on our QV was $90,470 and we paid $75,500, The Grecale Trofeo in an equal spec is $114k. We have had two Giulias (2021 Ti Sport Q4 is current daily) and a 2017 Maserati Granturismo and all have been more reliable than our Audis previously owned (so tired of non-owners bashing reliabiity)

[@etaesu83]

The comment I was looking for

[@houmandehesh740]

I own a Grecale: the design of the infotainment is horrific. So is the placement of the gear selectors and the stupid idea to have them as buttons. They are clunky and dont engage quickly. Also right above the touch screen for the climate control, which means the sensitive climate controls get inadvertently switched off/on. These design flaws wear you down over the time. - Do you enjoy the three chimes when you start the car? Or having to hit the “accept” button every time? - Do you like the loud sound of the turn signal? - The audio mute also doesn't hold. Many things like notifications in your connected phone make the music come back on. - Sadly there is a reason Porsche sells 4x more Macans than the entire annual production of Maserati. - Oh and I forgot: good luck giving your car to a valet. You have to give them instructions through the open window. The parking brakes only automatically disengage if you are wearing a seatbelt.

[@jasonsong86]

Love this SUV. In a sea of BMW and Porsche, this is a very nice all rounder with style and the performance to match.

[@fit_pharmd4830]

**Not sure if anyone else noticed, but the launch at the 2:30 mark you can clearly see the rear end of the car slowly squat like a sprinter about to take off on a 100 meter sprint. So cool to see

[@GeraldRisch]

Test drove one this weekend and even at 30 punching it, the gracale squats and goes.

[@conefcol000]

"Finance like nobody is watching" 😂. That said, I hope Maserati can sell these and apply some pressure to Porsche.

[@redseven485]

That'd be nice, but I doubt it. Porsche still is technologically ahead and their sales numbers would probably confirm that.

[@jaioncebollero1168]

Definitely not the case

[@dannyroz]

I appreciate you guys going back to your roots and making videos like these again. I would like to see the return of personal tuner cars, though. But that's none of my business.

[@The_Stanman]

Yes!! So glad to see video like this again.

[@TheSmokingTire]

We have videos of a supercharged ISF and a crazy swapped Scirocco coming up!

[@dannyroz]

@@TheSmokingTire F Yeah

[@thehumanoid6543]

doesn't seem to be working. 15K views only. I love the video, but I doubt if other people did.

[@The_Stanman]

@@thehumanoid6543 the video was just released. Looking at view counts for videos that have been out a while, their new format doesn't seem to getting better views than the old format. However I believe Matt said where new format does better is avg watch time. My hypothesis is that if you consider the incremental time required for the new format, the ROI isn't that much better. Overall it seems like SmokingTire's new business model is making money on the storage facilities, podcasting/Patreon, and writing. The KZbin channel is more about supporting the brand for those other endeavors.

[@wilson3246]

14:11 I work at a rental car company and we actually do have a Grecale in our fleet. In fact, just today I had to show a customer how to shift into drive, lmao.

[@fletch9702]

Can't believe how much the driver seat moves. Was it not screwed down correctly? On that standing start I thought Matt would end up in the back seats.

[@NathansGarage]

That's exactly what I was thinking!

[@jonlosito2004]

Maybe it's the Maserati built quality. I'm not surprised.

[@rileyhaynes4669]

Great video lads! Loving the elevated production quality. Your hard work pays off. I'm a Maserati, Aston Martin and Bentley salesman and glad to hear you are rooting for Maserati. We just got the new GranTurismos in stock and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

[@spuddie3207]

Is it just me or is that seat bouncing around a hell of alot.

[@lucasbishop3125]

thought the same thing

[@johnramsayskier]

Came here to say this, it’s about all I could see other than Matt was flying.

[@The_Stanman]

Came here to say the same exact thing. Really odd - must not very secured and/or solid?

[@gwgrote5]

@@lucasbishop3125 yeah, what's up with that? you'll have to take a Dramamine

[@stefndogg]

Had the same thought. Looks like its not properly mounted or something.

[@dil6969]

Between the two, I still prefer the Stelvio. It's more unique-looking and there was actually some thought given to the infotainment and HVAC controls. Even if this is faster in a straight line, I've driven the Stelvio QV and it's way faster than can be utilized on the street anyway.

[@jimspace]

This was a joy to watch, you’ve nailed the format to the second

[@juanbugatti490]

Awesome video guys! And what a beautiful car, expect for the weird screen in the center. Based on my experience with the Giulia and Stelvio, I’m sure it drives amazing.

[@cjtr83]

Man, You guys are absolutely nailing these videos. Superb 👏🏻

[@itsmegilbo]

I want to say a quick thank you Matt and Zack for the high quality of these reviews and really appreciate the time and effort you're putting in

[@danielwatt3408]

Great jobs chaps! The new style has brought me back to the channel 🤘🏼

[@mikepelch1969]

Awesome video. Thanks guys!

[@Thaiseaweed]

Beautiful video! Reminds me of the drive /tuned days!

[@jamesscozzari5008]

Sounds exactly like the Quadrifoglio. Weird since the Nettuno has the same block, but different heads. I wonder how similar the detuned Nettuno is to the Alfa's 690T. Anything based on the Giorgio platform is going to be great.

[@mrdeeds72]

I really miss watching your vids. Gonna watch more!

[@kochj23]

This new change in format is perfect! Also, It is always amusing when you hear the free music used by another channel (Valley Racing's end credits music).

[@incognitoguitars9999]

Fun video. Video looks amazing.

[@TakuroSpirit77]

Radio volume slider over there is for the passenger. If you drive a lot of Chrysler products with volume/tune buttons on the back of the wheel, you use those as a driver 99% of the time.

[@DavidM-mb1vx]

Wtf cares?

[@TakuroSpirit77]

@@DavidM-mb1vx Zach commented on it, watch the video. And obviously YOU cared enough to leave a reply.

[@thegirthquake8574]

Hate to say it, but if you don't like the QP5, you just don't have a soul, man. It wasn't perfect, but it was gorgeous and sounded like sex on wheels.

[@M67v]

Apparently it drove very well too especially with the ZF 6HP

[@Eidrian111]

They are great and the sport GT S isn’t unreliable. I have one and it’s truly great.

[@M67v]

@@Eidrian111 They’re reliable??? How many miles is on yours?

[@papa_pt]

this is 100% correct. When they showed a pic of one and said "boring" in the intro I thought WTF

[@papa_pt]

​@@M67v I've read they're a lot more reliable than you'd expect, especially with ZF. The major common issue that seems to come up is the engine variator

[@WBizarre]

Great video. For some reason in pictures it looks like a Ford Escape-sized crossover, so the size was a surprise.

[@kevincockburn7805]

I agree, the proportions are obviously very good, so it looks smaller than it is. It does look good for this segment of cars

[@deancostello14]

I really like this, I think I like it more than a Stelvio and that's saying something. Hope people actually buy them.

[@billnorblat4047]

It farts violently on upshift...

[@TheFlunu]

Autodromo Chronograph!!!

[@conspicuoustraverser7375]

What the heck!

[@marcinhernik1270]

Im watching and getting into the jam and all of the sudden it hits me! I've heard this before? It's Mike and JJ reviewing cars now in minecraft format?

[@scorpionking8661]

Forza Italia🇮🇹🇮🇹👍👍👍

[@plizzle]

nice watch, matt, wish i was in the market for that collection.

[@frankengels5275]

That’s an interesting dial, what watch is Matt wearing?

[@williamdrijver4141]

Looks great in dark blue.

[@sanxi34]

HOLY SHIT!!! It squats when you brake stance it!!!! That's cool!! Now, on to the rest of the video! =P

[@MikeMatz13]

Autodromo spotted!! Nice Matt

[@Royahmar]

helluva banging PRX there Matt!

[@flyingphoenix113]

I don't think that's a PRX. Looks like a limited edition Autodromo.

[@carsaregood911]

It's the Autodromo Group B S4

[@JK061996]

6:08 in recent motorsport history the MC12 dominated FIA GT between 2005 and 2010

[@neilturner6749]

Wasn’t that a rebodied Ferrari Enzo rather than a genuine Mazza product?

[@joe718gt4]

​@neilturner6749 pretty much.

[@hardcoreep]

That looks like a great road.

[@bogosian.]

Autodromo watch looks amazing.

[@flyingphoenix113]

Is that the Hodinkee edition Group B Chrono?

[@bogosian.]

@@flyingphoenix113 yes, sold out already.

[@carsaregood911]

@@bogosian. not all of them

[@YouRedix]

I'm proud to have worked on this car's air suspension. Seems like a decent product overall

[@chadhaire1711]

yeah....suspension is so good it needed to have work on it already......sure Goober......................LOL

[@MrC72k]

Excellent. I’ll take one in 2 years after it depreciates 75%

[@donttruckhere]

it wont maserrati is back

[@MrC72k]

@@donttruckhere lol sure boss

[@RackTacular-cp6hu]

Was that a fart at 14:43? Lolololol

[@TheGardenMG]

1:15 Pagani and Koenigsegg : "Am I a joke to you?"

[@julianevans9548]

Like all crossovers, it would handle better if it was a saloon/sedan or hatchback - i.e. not needlessly tall.

[@Gearbhall]

unfortunately nobody buys sedans anymore

[@jareknowak8712]

@@Gearbhall Car people still do.

[@Justin_GFM]

@@jareknowak8712 Car people don’t always drive sales and that’s what companies are looking for, crossovers and SUVs are the hot thing and have been for years

[@jareknowak8712]

@@Justin_GFM I agree with You. Your statement doesnt disprove mine.

[@neilturner6749]

No one drives these vehicles in the real world how Matt, Zack and other car journo’s do on test, so who gives a fig if crossover handling is only 95% as good as the equivalent sedan. Most people much prefer the higher seating position giving better visibility and ease of entry/exit. Grow up or just get a proper sports car if you’re that desperate…

[@RealRaynedance]

Can't wait to hear the "Yerrus" crowd try to pronounce the name of this one.

[@lifeatitsbest410]

Matt, the 2002-2019 Maserati motors are literally made in the Ferrari factory in Modena, designed by a Ferrari designer, and given shared engine codes: F136 (na) and F154 (turbo). The only major differences were the crankshaft and some intake plumbing amongst a few other small tweeks. The is coming from a biased F136r

[@VG22.]

Yayyy!!! MASERATI'S back!!!!

[@JakeBullingtonTV]

“Finance like nobody’s watching” might be the best quote in the whole piece 😂😂😂

[@dumisanimasilela2673]

I like this car. You can tell it's built by people who still care about driving. That engine is a masterpiece. Well done maserati.

[@ParagMathurmd]

Is this good enough that's it's worth considering with the smaller engine? Big power covers a lot of sins. A sign of the overall excellence of the Macan is that its in the conversation while 90 bhp down on power. How does the $75k version with the 325 hp 4-cyl engine compete?

[@singingLeaf123]

how does this compare to a stelvio quad.? is it worth the price hike?

[@cmgebhardt]

What’s better - stelvio quadrofoglio or this trofeo in terms of performance?

[@90boiler]

It is basically Stelvio in nice clothing, engine is Stelvio with some add ons

[@dtmenace]

That driver’s seat seems to move around A LOT with a LG human behind the wheel.

[@claudegabriel]

look at that beautiful Autodromo Group B Rally Chrono on your wrist ;)

[@Resist_Oppression]

While I don't care for X-overs/SUVs, definitely looking forward to more tuner coverage.

[@sinisa3772]

Fantastičan

[@LilleyAdam]

If my car upshifted like that I don't think I could take it out in public.

[@JP-hb4mv]

This type of video is good! Not as formulaic as the typical canyon drive

[@darkmatter6714]

That seat is mounted on a sponge

[@Jon.Edgar.Martin]

Is that seat on springs?

[@masimilianzo]

What is the watch that Matt is wearing?

[@Conker187777]

What watch are you wearing in this video Matt?

[@carsaregood911]

Autodromo Group B S4

[@whoischxse]

Question to be begged, How does it compare to its sibling the Stelvio QV?

[@KUROSHURA]

I want one I want one bad

[@trevorsutherland5263]

This car was designed for me---at least the Modena trim is. In two years as a CPO purchase with Maserati's unlimited mileage warranty. Porsches retain value to a degree no other brand can match....they just do However a CPO Maserati is an excellent luxury sports value imho. You can rack up unlimited miles worry free for three years, and since the big depreciation hit took place before you bought, you get to enjoy driving a 1%-er car for 20%-er money.

[@MBisFrenchy]

Porsche sport cars maybe that Cayenne and Macan won't hold well either.

[@atarijones5056]

Matt looks like diddy Kong in Mario kart but what we'll edited and filmed video this style filming is great it makes the channel look more expensive! 😅

[@gavinsullivan9015]

I watched this just to support the channel but this seems like a nice car! Although paying 10-15% over the Porsche to get the Maserati badge might be an ask. But agree with the sentiment sometimes its nice to have a car that not everyone else drives…

[@glucia2223]

Yup. That’s what steered me away from it. Cross shopped it with a Macan GTS and chose the Porsche. They have a pricing problem with the Maserati.

[@You__GG]

The engine layout looks exactly like the one on the quadrifoglio

[@michaeld3404]

It farts every upshift, nice

[@Paws403]

I think this is a pretty good alternative for people want something different to the (now) run of the mill Macans. Will it maintain value like one? Probably not. Will it be as reliable as one? Also probably not. You can't deny it's italian flair though in a sea of german products.

[@chamade166]

Would personally never trade my Crosstour for one. Japanese know reliability and sturdiness. The Honda V6 takes well to aftermarket blowers and then it’s basically game over for Europe.

[@carsaregood911]

@@chamade166 wtf 😂

[@papa_pt]

​@@carsaregood911 bruh I'm cracking up too 😂 watch out for the turbo crosstour world beater

[@hamronD73]

@@chamade166 hahahahahahaha

[@glucia2223]

As someone who owns a Macan GTS, I agree. I was actually considering this car, until they priced it abkut $15k more than a GTS. And while you’re right that Macans have become “common,” at least there are fewer GTS running around. They’re pretty sweet. Maserati messed up their pricing.

[@Sumdumdad]

No ventilated seats? Heated seats only for the front? For $51k+ the lack of such simple features is unacceptable.

[@JC-vk6ii]

I like it,...at some point they will get it right, they are way closer now!

[@zeomarmob]

Ugly is complimentary. Included for free. How can one company design both Levante sport and this, Is mind bugling.

[@MikeB85]

Im pretty sure this would outperform the Levante Trofeo, even being down 70hp. The interior looks better too.

[@gjmartin88]

Alfa owner here. What's not mentioned about Maserati, the dealers network sucks...

[@braydenkirk5820]

That watch of Matt's is beautiful, what is it?

[@DBGMLV]

Offtopic question for Matt: What kind of Royal Oak is that ? Kind of looks like a smartwatch verion of it, but as far as I know no such thing exists. Plus I doubt you'd buy something of the sort.

[@jdhazan]

It’s the Autodromo Hodinkee Group B

[@papa_pt]

Uhhh you show the Quattroporte as you say "boring".. no way that was intentional

[@dillongargano9282]

I love that this car is a thing. Love that it’s very good. For 100k tho? Like STARTING at 100… no way man. Base should be 80s. Fully fully loaded low 100s would make way more sense. Can’t imagine spending 120k for a loaded on of these.

[@leonardr6704]

Based on reviews so far, this seems like a killer in its segment, price aside.

[@BigShmeels]

Am I the only one who hates the fart sound on upshifts??

[@ak2112]

“A pretty good car. A pretty complete package.” For 6 figures, I’d want a lot more.

[@tommygu6376]

Why is Matt giving some John Davis vibes in this vid😂😂

[@CapnT87]

Don’t know fully about the U.S., but in Canada this is priced 30-40k above all of its competition including the Macan GTS, F-Pace SVR, X3/X4M, Stelvio QF, GLC63 (not that it’s sold anymore)….don’t think it brings that much more value than those though. I’ve got the SVR and I couldn’t even think about affording the Maserati and I’d be giving up the V8 anyways.

[@myemailiscool]

It's about $10-15k USD more than the X3M, F pace SVR or Stelvio. Macan GTS people always spec those super expensive so the median sales price is probably similar. I do think the Grecale Trofeo is overpriced, I'd just get the mid trim 2.0 and still get the super nice interior, space and looks, and call it a day. BUT, also if i'm spending 6 figures, I want exclusivity. Which this car would give you, you'd probably never see another one on the road. X3M, Macan GTS, our here they are a dime a dozen.

[@CapnT87]

@@myemailiscool Yea, the interior does set it apart - and midrange acceleration is probably at the top. Sounds great for a V6 too. Anyways, I’ve got an order in for an M4 Comp XDrive haha

[@myemailiscool]

@@CapnT87 good choice! you're moving in the proper direction, crossover --> coupe 😂

[@CapnT87]

@@myemailiscool Actually back to the right direction haha. I had a C63S coupe until I couldn’t take looking at it in the garage for 5 months of Canadian winter so I saw the Jag as the next best thing…but now…#xDrive

[@avdogrebovic5398]

buy it Matt

[@davidjpekel]

what's with the seat moving side to side under acceleration and turning..... very disconcerting!

[@russheins6458]

Why is the drivers seat moving around so much , never noticed that on any other car 🤷‍♂️

[@sergio_81]

Matt´s watch? What it is?

[@carsaregood911]

Autodromo Group B S4

[@gregmcable]

My heart goes out to the journalists who are forced to review these shopping carts on wheels as if they are remotely interesting (or even have many practical advantages) to actual enthusiasts.

[@zonapainter]

I love the exterior styling and for my money the interior is nicer than any of the competition. If I was spending $100K on a crossover, this would be it.

[@prolapsed5104]

A Maserati two-car-garage everyone likes :)

[@MrLph427]

I want the mc20 engine upgrade please - extra 100 bhp and 85 lb ft please

[@neilturner6749]

Then you Sir need to grow up!

[@tehbrutenextdoor]

Just gonna say: Great job on the video guys. I was two days late because you've programmed my monkey brain to look for smiling mugs. #algorithm #monkeybrain lol

[@letd1995]

It sounds just like my x3m

[@AndrewSVO]

Missed opportunity to say that it won't go 185 but it'll sure as hell feel like it.

[@greaser3069]

surprisingly I like it, but man is this thing gonna be one big headache with not only the price but with all the breakdowns and electrical gremlins

[@mikesonic29]

That blue color washes away all the flaws.

[@sasothestrategizer]

I don’t bet it has the quality of Porsche. Damn thing is expensive, if I heard squeaking and rattling after 5K I would lose my shit!!