Mass shooters want to be famous -- you're helping them | Tom Teves | TEDxMileHigh

[@calebb4782]

I studied sociology with a specialization in crime and deviance. Ive been saying this for years. I went to virginia tech. I was there when a shooter was on the loose. No one knows what that feels like unless youve been there. I went to school with allison parker she was a grade above me. I saw her on the news at a gas station 1500miles away is how i found out. Ive studied this for years. People need to understand these people many times have cried out for help for years and given none they lash out at society in the worse way. We need to not only do this but offer mental health to prevent future things. But this is a great start to deter these suicidal crys for notoriety. Thank you for bringing this to a larger crowd.

[@kurtilein3]

The USA has decided that the primary place where you get mental health services is inside prison. The rest of the developed world does it differently.

[@waynemullins8841]

Caleb I agree on the mental health same with addition . They

[@waynemullins8841]

@@kurtilein3 I agree lived it with addition seams like no one wants to be help till it's really bad

[@economicinfo823]

If you have a mental problem it’s not someone ELSES job to realize that and help you (but if they did then that’s great) but YOUR job to help YOURSELF. Stop painting them as the victims. They. Aren’t,

[@sidmichael1158]

They just want friends?

[@apxprdtr_mge]

Soul crushing, you can hear the pain in Tom's voice... Regardless though, only facts came out of his mouth. 100% agreed with everything he said.

[@KHRONyX]

It’s very strange to me that this guy only got 74k views but I was watching another Ted talk where a person was given a platform to talk about how he was in a school that a shooting happened and it has 2 million. I feel like it just goes to prove his point about this Ted talk. This video needs that many views.

[@ranch2152]

facts, they even have this video posted first thing at the top and still barely any views

[@Raiden-the-Goat32]

Honestly this man is saying exactly what I have been saying for year's and it's very simple straight forward and factual.

[@Tivawarin]

I am Thai and I can see how media can spread and stop this horrendous mass shooting at the same time. It is said that a media live streaming caused casualties in Thai mass shooting because it gave a murderer details regarding the rescue operation.

[@MrToddling]

Sawadee- I was in Thailand when 9/11 happened, so I ended up being there an couple weeks, due to the NO FLIGHT restrictions. In all I was there just about 5 weeks. My wife is Thai, and I speak little bit (nid noi) Thai. We stayed with her family, and they watched Thai TV and movies (la kohn). In my 5 weeks there, I NEVER SAW one gun on television! It’s not in the culture.

[@charlottetreadaway6333]

Yes er

[@charlottetreadaway6333]

I’Mei

[@cellogirl11rw55]

My high school experienced something similar- bomb threats. It took over a year to figure out who was doing them, and it turned out to be a student who was bullied mercilessly. He tried to reach out for help, but no one cared to listen, not even his family. So, he made the bomb threats to make the entire school understand the pain and terror that he felt every single day. He didn't hurt anyone, but, the tragedy is that he is now in federal prison because no one ever showed him any love, compassion, or friendship. All he ever knew was pain and terror. I was a victim of bullying as well, but I'm not in prison because somebody listened to me- *someone cared*. *That* is what these mass shooters want.

[@SinisterScoundrel6562]

Well now they really gave him a reason to destroy society. When he gets out, I'm more than certain you'll hear about his death right after the mass number of deaths he caused. It's no wonder they heavily guard the nuclear warheads buried below. Cuz they know there's some who are so fed up and so done, they're ready to bring mankind to full extinction. Just what this planet needs!!!👹

[@Demonicintrovert666]

yeah exactly

[@lalat5649]

Everyone wants someone to care yet not everyone murders people because noone cares.

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

This brings concern of what may happen if and when he's out because chances are prison isn't going to fix him.

[@SinisterScoundrel6562]

@@lalat5649 Well goodie two shoes of you. I think you're very much part of the problem you're that selfish.

[@justinjames6960]

Finally someone is saying this.....stop giving monsters attention!!!

[@jeffbriggs1987]

finally? People talk about this after every mass shooting. You must not use reddit.

[@bayaryan7942]

If they not WHITE they dont get it a a shooter

[@farvision]

@@jeffbriggs1987 Only people who read Reddit are aware of Reddit ...

[@jeffbriggs1987]

@@farvision It's one of the most popular websites in the world. More people get their media from there than any major media outlet. same goes for utube. The whole 'don't show the shooters face or say their name' thing has been said a million times.

[@Elias_g1]

These people need help. Calling them monsters is the worst thing you can do. They don't seek attention, they have been hurt by people and want "revenge". That's why they do it. Please stop spreading bull****

[@Eduhivesolutions]

I am sorry for your loss. Really appreciate your study and solution. In fact this is a big solution that should be applied to all violent activities.

[@johnfarris6152]

💖I'm sorry for your loss, it's all of our loss. There's not enough like him.💖

[@StephanieElizabethMann]

Last year a number of people at a mosque in New Zealand we're shot. The prime minister requested the murderer's name not to be mentioned and it wasn't.

[@gardeniac.3782]

I did a paper on that, the shooter was Australian and I think his name was something like Brenton somthing or other

[@youngbahss3220]

Actually, she said she wouldnt say it but all our news channels etc continued to say his name over and over. I hate that i cant forget the name.

[@StephanieElizabethMann]

@@youngbahss3220 I'm sorry that the name has been made such a strong memory.

[@ZennExile]

People don't buy newspapers or watch the news unless you bait them into it with anti-hero celebrity and outrage. Just like no one watches NASCAR to see who wins, they watch to see the wrecks. If you stopped posting the winners and removed all the points, people would still come looking for the wrecks. And if you stopped broadcasting those wrecks, people would find another way to spread them. Society is what's sick. These people committing mass violence are just symptoms of a profoundly sick society. Until you realize your own failings as a human being, you can't even begin to judge the failings of others.

[@StephanieElizabethMann]

@@ZennExile Yes I agree. There are many analogies to the people who commit these crimes and the community that supports them through lack of accountability, oversight and neglect.

[@pajolee6918]

This is why I love Philip De Franco's coverage - he refuses to share names. He does however, share names, and show faces of victims.

[@lightninglord1]

Platform

[@pajolee6918]

@@lightninglord1 Blender.

[@lightninglord1]

@@pajolee6918 waffle iron.

[@mattlambert1551]

2 years later and this is as true as ever. I’ve been trying to tell people this for years.

[@stephenatkinson2333]

I'm an Australian. In the mid 90's a man went on a shooting spree at a place in Tasmania, Port Arthur. In the next year's World Guinness book of records his name was in there because of his actions. I was disgusted and never bought that book again.

[@mranonyms5901]

Wtf

[@shadetraveleroftheunknown4949]

Wow. Just wow.....

[@SinisterScoundrel6562]

I'm glad it pisses you off. I bet you're a bully yourself.

[@jonathanaleman2338]

@@SinisterScoundrel6562 so you want murder to be rewarded?

[@Rebirth._]

how terrible the shooting and putting the shooter in the guinness book of world records aside, WHY DO THEY HAVE THAT RECORD CATEGORY? DID THEY START KEEPING TRACK AFTER THE SHOOTING? WHAT RECORD DID HE EVEN BREAK??

[@dougwedel9484]

So many people don't speak up when they see signs of someone who might become violent or suicidal. And when they do, people ignore them. When people do commit mass shootings, they so often have been ignored for years until that day. We don't know what to think, say or do when we see bullying, hear threats, see violence. So we keep silent on this topic. Chris Voss, author of Never Split The Difference, said one of the things people feel desperate to have is people's attention, not necessarily to agree with them, but to hear them in a way they feel understood. Doing this can reduce the resolve to cause harm in someone. I agree that once someone causes severe harm, like mass shootings, it's wrong to make them famous in the news, but listening one on one years earlier can go a long way to stop someone as they take what they call the killing journey.

[@verayancey2014]

Thank you. This idea has been on my heart for some time. My heart is broken for your family’s loss.

[@Neptune-nq3tn]

I totally agree with this guy. Respect to this guy for speaking his mind and speaking it so well. Good point Tom Teves.

[@generichuman2044]

This man is speaking the truth. Just take a moment and think about what he just said. Off the top of my head, I can remember the names of 4 mass shooters and 5 serial killers. Sadly, I don't remember the name of a single victim. I have seen the criminals faces so often, I could give the police a detailed sketch of them. The media has a lot to answer for. Since Columbine, there has been a large increase in the number of mass murder. Columbine was the first incident in which the perpetrators received mass coverage. This is no coincidence!

[@michaellovely6601]

What Tom Teves says about how the media should only mention the perpetrators of mass shootings if the perpetrator is still on the loose so the public can serve as the additional eyes and ears of law enforcement is extremely true. An example of this would be the Nashville Waffle House shooting in Tennessee. Local media outlets mentioned the perpetrator by name so the residents of Nashville could serve as the extra eyes and ears for the Nashville Metro Police Department and the Tennessee State Police.

[@yvningsiren]

Powerful. Absolutely powerful. This man is the GOAT.

[@ZennExile]

Or this man is a sociopath attempting to personally gain from his son's murder. I mean, if you watch his behavior, he doesn't seem like a grieving father. He seems like an actor with no kids pretending to grieve over a son that doesn't exist. His eyes are the tell. When people are emotionally disturbed (unless they are sociopaths or psychopaths) their brow will clearly display their emotional chaos. But this guy's eyes doesn't change the entire time, even when he pretends to be composing himself.

[@yvningsiren]

Bro... keep those conspiracy theories somewhere else. This really isn't the place for them.

[@ZennExile]

@@yvningsiren do you even know what a conspiracy is? Or why you think having a theory that a conspiracy is taking place is negative? Maybe you should educate yourself a bit more fully before you throw around buzz words programmed into your brain. That being said, a conspiracy requires two or more people conspiring. In this case, you can't rule out the possibility that this man is attempting to personally gain from his loss. That is not a conspiracy. It's just a simple fact of human nature applied to a situation based on the acute observation of his publicly displayed behavior. In order to be a conspiracy someone else needs to be involved. Ya dingus.

[@yvningsiren]

@@ZennExile alright I don't know if you're trolling or what but if not I hope you figure out compassion eventually. If so then lol you got me

[@SinisterScoundrel6562]

Crisis actors

[@TheSubwaysurfer]

the fact that he can even speak so eloquently is amazing

[@TheHeartOne]

Especially after suffering the loss of his son!!!

[@sarahtanguy4726]

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[@sarahtanguy4726]

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[@biqqeducativespot1729]

Ok

[@samuellopez7227]

@@TheHeartOne ⁰

[@saradomenechpou2361]

Congratulations for your TED talk. Very good, clear and useful. Greetings from BCN

[@ReelRai]

Media needed to wake up and realize this a long time ago.

[@amy109]

They do it on purpose. There is no “waking up the media”.. it’s ALL on purpose. They have an agenda and they push all of them successfully brainwashing people.

[@MelliMontana]

Murder is the best form of sending a message. It’s been used since the beginning of time.

[@kmanarabrown3259]

He is right. He is not wrong.

[@alizulqarnain3354]

As media has connections with both the parties the murdered and the murderer, they get views and earn a lot. It was a good speech but it won't make things happen unless we personally take actions.

[@lalat5649]

Well it hasn't happened so you don't know what change it could bring

[@nohandel]

Thank you Alex for having such a wonderful father who loves us all 😘

[@austinwolf4512]

still to this day, nothing changed and the shootings just increased.

[@diannh2894]

I have been saying this forever!!!! Stop making them famous

[@a47mlb]

I totally agree!!! I always compare it to streakers or those people that will run on to a football or baseball field wanting the TV’s to show them for their 15 min of fame. Nowadays the networks refuse to show anyone that runs on the field. Compare now to the 70’s and 80’s. There was someone on the field nearly every game back then. Now maybe one or two a year??

[@ColdPotato]

Horrible things like this are gold for our main stream media. Anyone old enough to be around for 9/11 knows how this works.

[@TheMfmccarthy]

This guy is so well rehearsed. He speaks well and delivers good pacing and even uses some humor. He also 's kind of sounds like Sebastian Maniscalco

[@waynemullins8841]

Very sorry for your loss

[@sethgarry7526]

This video deserves more views than it already has.

[@markgibbs904]

You nailed it Tom. Doing service work. I was in the home of a teenage boy and his step mother 10 years ago. The boy played baseball and was obsessed with being famous. He said "I'm going to be famous if I have to kill the president"(Bush at the time). Step mom said " Quit saying that _____ ". About 5 years ago he was convicted of armed robbery that involved several convenience stores in a ten mile radius. He never shot or injured anyone but he got what he sought -- 5 minutes of fame. The price decades in prison. Sorry, so very sorry for your loss. Keep going because you are right.

[@ZennExile]

How can you be so blind to the real problem? Why did that kid feel like being famous was the only way his life would have value? Maybe because his mother loved some TV or Movie star more than she loved him?

[@lalat5649]

@@ZennExile so everyone that comes from neglect is going to go rob convenience stores?

[@willgg9096]

This needs more than 75k views

[@Hairitage2023]

Exactly promote public safety, not making random, mass shooters famous!!

[@beccas.6983]

I was talking with my husband about this last night! I felt at an absolute loss for what to do in the face of such a huge issue because so many of the solutions are (1) highly politicized and (2) often feel like a losing situation. But in this, EVERYONE--except the murderer--wins, which is the whole point.

[@cosmicrider5898]

Thank you.

[@JCD275]

Just come across this - Bookmarked it to watch tomorrow

[@mariahmolina2527]

THiS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING !!!! For the past couple of years and not many people think about these things. Shooters want attention, fame, they want to be feared by the people who neglect them everyday !!!!!!!! It’s a cry for help ... “hey look at me I exist”

[@mrcarterfx885]

That’s crazy they go from unknown to having a wiki page 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@ightimmaheadout290]

crazy how they go from unknown to being blasted on local, national, and worldwide news where millions of people know your name. Tired of our media creating more inspirations for shootings.

[@MsSigurd3]

Thanks so much for this VERY IMPORRTEND speak,i will share to all my friends and tell family member what you say.GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR YOR LOSS AMEN.💕💕💕💕👏👏👏👏

[@gebhardt244]

Please do not forget: Monsters grow where nonody cares, where nobody sees and where nobody lisents, and where someone feels helples and ashamed. Pay Atention to the one who is unknown and isolates him selfe.

[@lalat5649]

We've all been through iso we don't come out of it murderers

[@stormsumeet]

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[@lalat5649]

@@stormsumeet beightch?🖕

[@byronthomas153]

@@lalat5649 not all

[@sharonwheat3659]

The speaker is absolutely correct. These shooters should not be given any press whatsoever. Like 1000s of Americans, I was glued to my screen for hours as I watched the tragedy in Uvalde and its aftermath. I found myself holding up my hand so as not to see the shooter when his face appeared on my screen.

[@cerealkiller7143]

Finally, some rational opinions on the topic of mass shootings.

[@brittanyloudy6486]

It's fine to talk about what happened. Talk about who was hurt, where it was, that kind of stuff. But dont give the killer what they want. Dont show them, dont say their name, like he said, unless necessary. Why is this so hard to understand? Why cant major media just listen?

[@pape37]

You’re right morally speaking, but the networks are going with what sells. When a kid runs into his high school and shoots a dozen people, out of a nation of millions, a few dozen will refuse to watch coverage out of moral objections. Dark as it is to say, it’s fascinating.

[@angtxsun4460]

And here we are July 4, 2022 and Highland Park has been attacked. Thank you for this information, hoping we learn

[@simplyhuman3982]

I haven't studied this but have thought this every time I hear about it.

[@kathleensloan8385]

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[@jadedoe9966]

I’ve been saying this forever.

[@martinebyk]

Same here!

[@irenelamprakou5178]

My name is EIRINI LAMPRAKOU. I live in Vouliagmeni athens |Greece. This came from my head that's why you are in my house

[@DramaLlamaFishing]

Powerful

[@ghostferatu6241]

No this is not true. Anger that builds up over long periods of time + social alienation is what causes mass shootings.

[@Raiden-the-Goat32]

Actually both are true depending on the person.

[@ichigokurosaki8661]

This ain't gonna stop them from doing it.

[@projectjab156]

Only if enough of us rally together and show support

[@Tehui1974]

Good discussion.

[@SalsaPie]

I'm speechless..

[@VZ-Warrior_Soul]

Stop this. please. Stop. So very Sorry for your loss. But please we are all hurting from our own personal devastations. I’ll never ever involve another into something that was unimaginable

[@lalat5649]

Why are you here then if you don't want to hear what he has to say

[@shrikedecil]

The media is *fully cognizant* of this. The media has decided "Story trumps Facts". The only exceptions to the general rule of "Amp Everything" are events that have some decidedly inconvenient fact. "But Shrike! Conspiracy thinking!" There's a difference between "The dots" and "The connections."

[@davidvonallmen19]

Thank God I'm not the only one who's been thinking this. My only disagreement with this speaker is I think his organization doesn't ask for enough. Just one mention of the shooter's name and his picture only in non-prominent locations? How about zero mentions of his name and zero images of his face? Does the public need this information? Does it benefit us in any way? And zero mentions of his motivation, too. The reason the person says they did it is never the real reason. The real reason is they're angry and have mental health problems and have arbitrarily placed blame for their anger on some group. We don't need to know what invented reason he came up with, it doesn't matter in the slightest. What does matter is the lives that will be saved by making these shooters anonymous. No matter which side of the gun debate you're on, I think we can all support that.

[@bhaig116]

Been saying this since Aurora. Why do the media constantly give them what they want? More than anything else, they want to be famous.

[@biqqeducativespot1729]

Imagination is better than knowledge .do you agree?

[@hjarsen7296]

I would rather know if my son is dead or wounded, than think about how he is all the time.

[@mangoose4]

Glorify, instead, men like Jack Wilson.

[@viralbuthow000]

I get his reasoning 100%. Not easy to do though in the Information Age

[@pettender4229]

It’s certainly not easy to do but he gave us a blueprint on how to do something about it. That’s all I need.

[@viralbuthow000]

@@pettender4229 Oh I absolutely I get it. Just a matter of getting these money grubbing media conglomerates on board.

[@jagjr44]

"We dont need an act of Congress, we need an act of conscience on the producers and consumers of mass media to remove the reward of notoriety." 100!

[@spootot]

549 likes vs 37 dislikes how are there 37 who saw this and thought this is a bad idea

[@Jezus42]

@Gas Mask I dont think so. You can still make documentaries about cases and incidents without putting their names in the news. People like me and students can still study the cases without the mass public knowing thier names. Your average individual would have to seek that info out.

[@spootot]

biased against who? mass shooters?

[@nomoregdm]

It’s 37 gun rights idiots who decided their guns are more important than a completely unrelated concept about someone with a gun cause it makes them nervous. Spineless cowards.

[@cjaquilino]

KZbin "no notoreity" and if you look in the comments of some of the videos you find a few shi++y people arguing that that No Notoriety is somehow bad. Guy's basically saying killers should be less famous and we should make a conscious choice to give them and their names less attention. How's there even a strong argument against that? He's not saying not to report the deed, just lessen the use of the name to make them less famous.

[@sascotttx5145]

This is what I've been saying for years, ever since the Virginia Tech shooter sent a 30 minute video to the post office. And I would be even more restrictive. This speaker is willing to let the media mention the shooters name one time per article/report. I say let them mention it zero times, or assign a name of Joe Shooter. If the media push back on it just use their own tactics and ask them, "Does that mean you're in favor of more children dying?" There are other ideas to help reduce the number of these events, but this one doesn't cost anything. After the recent event in Texas, I mentioned this idea in some correspondence I had with the former head of security for one of the larger high schools in OKC to try to get some support or validation for it but I think she misunderstood my request. She stated that the most effective method is to restrict access in and out of these schools, while classes are in session, to one point with metal detectors and armed security. She didn't comment on my idea because I think she thought that I was suggesting the gag order in lieu of her security check point. I believe that any success will only come from the implementation of multiple tactics. I do not have a background, or any experience, in security or law enforcement, or teaching.

[@michaellovely6601]

John or Jane Shooter. I only suggest the latter in the event that the mass shooter is a woman. The only time that it is ever appropriate to mention the name of a mass shooter is if law enforcement has determined that the perpetrator is still on the loose and poses a danger to the public.

[@efrainalvatez5997]

This is real the main problem is the people and their consuming behavior and the population problems...

[@jasonfrazier4886]

Is there any reason to release the shooter's picture or name? No, it's color commentary for the 24 hour news cycle.

[@elitoby7734]

Tedx put this as this video at the top of their channel. This KZbin is profiting off recent events

[@truthriser1114]

Indian pro govt media is the worst..i understand what to do.thank u sir..👏

[@ranjithreddych]

Not saying no but what Indians got to do with this?

[@angtxsun4460]

I agree that the media is not helpful, but these young men were not mentally healthy. They are in the news because people are trying to understand. I agree to stop using their name and pictures but instead help us understand the signs and symptoms so we can identify those at risk, keep them away from weapons, and get them the help they need.

[@TillyOrifice]

Good work giving this whole talk without giving the name of one mass killer. Too bad I counted three murderers named in the comments.

[@kenhomeier8629]

I agree 100%

[@Mak2Grim]

STILL SOUNDS LIKE MORE A PARENTING ISSUE. LOVE YOUR KIDS, SUPPORT, TEACH THEM TO LOVE TO LEARN AND BE INDEPENDENT, TEACH UR KIDS TO BE ENTREPRENEURS DONT LET THE INTERNET RAISE THEM

[@Rebirth._]

i have no response to this terrible take...

[@sanjevguy]

This is a nice speech but my question is if all this inspiration is out there how come every day people still die and suffer and do horrible things across the earth? It’s kind of crazy. No matter how much good you do you can’t save everyone and it has never added up fast enough. I wish there was an absolute solution like worldwide peace but that’s not possible as far as I know. Even if we were to achieve that what good is that to all the people who suffered and died and can’t be brought back. And even if we could reverse all that what was the point of those people suffering in the first place? It’s very sad and it doesn’t make any sense completely senseless and tragic and wrong. Life could be so amazing for so many people if not all people but tragedy and suffering soils it.

[@mrdavinci4178]

Peaceful intent rallies, the constant calm persistence using discipline, that is what makes lasting change. Look at ANY great HUMAN that had a long/hard journey still smiling. I will listen to what they have to say. Change is coming brace. 👍🇺🇸2nd

[@mrdavinci4178]

My condolences. You are one of the strongest people I have seen. 🙏

[@Pearnarrative]

My question in 2024 is, now that we don't convict criminal anymore and people getting let out in less than five years. Is it beneficial to limit the face of these criminal when they come back into society? It's not going to limit to only mass shooters. Korea has a similar law where even if you're convicted the media might not even released your picture at all. Criminals are back in society recommitting as we speaks. There are cases people can look up relating to this topic in Korea and how it is working out for them.

[@angelg.s.1053]

But so what if someone is famous? Nobody really cares about them in the end.

[@kallimarii1509]

D-did you even watch the video?? If you give these people the notoriety that they want, the likelihood of a copy cat shooter rises up to 30%?? And your comment about the fact that "nobody would care about them"?? Apparently there are still a ton of people referring to the Sandy hook shooters by name in the comments. While many barely remembers the name of the victims of these shootings.

[@Caterfree10]

Some media is getting better. On CNN, some of the anchors refuse to use mass shooters’ names or photos, but it isn’t across the board. It should be. If we could make it a regulation, even for just the Associated Press, it would help.

[@Qingeaton]

I've said this for many years, and I'm an old man now. They could be identified by some repugnant word and the last four digits of their S.S. #

[@Personnenenparle]

Make it illegal for any news sources to say the name of the shooter or to show any photos of his face... like.. yea, news will be happy to tell the story in detail, but wont say the name

[@stormsumeet]

You pathetic and no one will ever know your name

[@michaellovely6601]

With one request: if the perpetrator is still on the loose they should be mentioned by name so the public can serve as the additional eyes and ears of law enforcement agencies to capture the perpetrator.

[@J.D.Shelnutt]

If this were the shooters trial it would have had 20m views

[@uvcoach42]

Execute them!!! No trial firing squad !!!

[@porkeyminch8044]

Better yet, torture them until they die.

[@pajolee6918]

One problem - that doesn't work. In fact, it's been shown to add to the problem.

[@porkeyminch8044]

@@pajolee6918 The firing squad part or the torture part?

[@pajolee6918]

@@porkeyminch8044 Well I was replying to OP, so... But, torture won't do anything either.

[@angela_merkeI]

Executions and torture without trial and reason. I don't see how that could be abused by any government... It will definitely reduce of carnage and is not, in fact, just primitive revanchism.

[@_xBrokenxDreamsx_]

sadly the media are right back to their old ways.

[@bobbicarver1845]

1 councilor per school isn’t enough, much less tossing free mental health out the window, that’s the problem along with the disconnect that comes with technology!!

[@bluesman97]

Sensualization... it's what media does best.

[@ranch2152]

DEFUND THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA

[@Leesoldier12]

5:00 well either that or ban assault guns

[@damianmandich8723]

Just stop watching TV.

[@premier69]

infamous, not famous, right?

[@connorf3370]

premier69 same difference, point is people know their names and faces

[@thomasdixon8656]

actually this sounds exactly like something an act of congress could solve. don't know why he thinks and app or whatever would be better.

[@connorf3370]

Thomas Dixon The media corporations would probably sue the govt, the First Amendment covers freedom of speech. The media would win. The mindset and other changes would be much better

[@carlosmedeiros964]

👏👏👏

[@brandonstock29]

News Media gossips and slanders. Its biblical.

[@efrainalvatez5997]

The destruction of everything in the name of the money $$$$$$....

[@kopthelotklopp1523]

These things happen all the time in America. Lots of people have guns therefore lots of people get shot. It's not rocket science.

[@brotherlynch6977]

Stop the fame seeking and stop the method blaming. Murder is murder, the method being "glorified/demonized" is just as bad.

[@SinisterScoundrel6562]

I bet some shooters don't care to be remembered. They just want to have the last laugh on society.

[@lalat5649]

Jokes on them the Earth is rid of them forever and people will always remember the acts but I don't remember a single shooter, they live and die a nobody

[@PharociousArt]

All the ~74 thumbs downs are future shooters

[@ZennExile]

The seeking of celebrity is a symptom of a society that values wealth and celebrity over achievement. People who add value to society are all but ignored in favor of people who win the social media lottery and become famous for being famous. That is what drives these people. The need to have an impact or be a part of society is being overshadowed by cultural reverence for worthless lottery winners who do nothing but take. Taking attention, taking resources, taking opportunity, and taking lives are all the same metric. The successful take. Everyone else is just taken from. That's the source of the mental illness as well as the core reason people commit acts of mass violence. They believe their life has been rendered worthless by society, so they want to lash out in a way that society cannot ignore. That's the real truth. Tom here is just a grieving father trying to make sense of chaos from a perspective void of real information or any sort of thorough understanding. Attempting to defect blame away from ourselves won't solve these kinds of problems. These people will just find a larger platform that will prevent society from being able to ignore them. You can't cure a profoundly sick society by isolating and treating those suffering its ill effects. You have to change society itself.

[@pajolee6918]

Funny - you called him a 'sociopath' in another comment, and said he 'looks like an actor with no kids'...

[@pape37]

Excellent comment.

[@AmbiCahira]

I agree so much. One thing I also wish would change is how easily these people can get ammo to automatics. I get being a gun collector or having a gun for self defence but why can people easily get ammo for guns that spit bullets so crazily that even law enforcement has a hard time stopping them. I'm a European that moved to the US a few years ago so I'm not used to guns and I'm not desensitized to a feeling where it doesn't affect me, it makes me feeling so physically ill every time there's gun violence no matter if someone died or not, but especially where automatics were involved. I super wish ammo was hard to get. It's fine using an expensive bullet or two in self defence but why can they even afford or access thousands of bullets sometimes? I genuinely wish this would change. :( In my home country if someone wants to harm another person they have to use knives and while that is terrifying enough it is hard to kill a lot of people that way plus you'd have to stare the person in the eyes up close and personal and luckily theres a very few number of that level of crazy... so I wish it was harder to succeed. 💔 Alex, I will not forget your brave story. I'm proud of your father for getting this story told eventhough it was hard for him. I'm proud of you for protecting the woman you love and I'm sorry you had to make that decision that day. ⚘

[@waynemullins8841]

I know where our freedom comes from

[@martinebyk]

Speaking from experience, the legal gun owners - those who have passed background checks and are required to go to gun safety and concealed carry classes are not the ones who commit these crimes. BUT, there are many instances of legal gun owners who successfully stopped mass shootings in public or successfully defended their family at home. Guns and ammo are not the problem. Children growing up without parental guidance, love, and attention is the problem. Children growing up surrounded by violence in their family and neighborhoods where life is not valued or respected is the problem. We have had (at least) two bombings that killed a lot of people (Oklahoma City and Boston Marathon). The problem is people's hearts and minds.

[@waynemullins8841]

@@martinebyk I agree with you my son served our nation and I am proud of him and I have two daughters that IAM proud of and I had help rasein them . And they were taught manners. And I tried to earn there respect and trust

[@martinebyk]

@@waynemullins8841 I think parents downplay their influence on their children and youth. Children learn values from their parents and adults in their lives - by example more so than words.

[@waynemullins8841]

@@martinebyk I didn't guide my kid's with fear but showed respect and earned it . I am proud of them

[@fitsumteshome5132]

Replay what you think

[@LeoStaley]

This is awful and irresponsible. Studies have been done on the motivations of mass killers, and "attention" is *very* low on their priorities. They aren't doing it for attention. And furthermore, if they are dead, it doesn't matter anyway, because the dead cannot experience any of the attention you give them. Are we supposed to just cover our eyes and ears when a mass shooting happens, to ensure that we have as little understanding as possible of why they did it and how to prevent more? Apparently so.

[@amicst]

Leo Staley Can you please refer me to some of those studies? I am also wondering if attention is the main desire pushing these criminals.

[@ZennExile]

they don't want attention they want impact. They want to feel a connection to society. Even if it's a horrific connection.

[@martinebyk]

The publicity does encourage copy-cat mass murders.

[@LeoStaley]

@@martinebyk but that isn't part of their intent

[@martinebyk]

@@LeoStaley I'm sure, but perhaps an incident inspired them when they saw the criminal's name and picture all over the news outlets.