Kobe vs Jordan part 2., February 1st, 1998

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@tegrank
@tegrank 10 жыл бұрын
List of the greatest of all time: 1. Michael Jordan 2. Kobe Bryant . . . 25+. LeBron. lol.
@massdagod
@massdagod 10 жыл бұрын
I can name at least 12 players that are better Kobe Bryant all time, and I uploaded this video.
@ilso123
@ilso123 10 жыл бұрын
first two is correct but u gotta have lebron in that mix too. 25 is way too low. he's top ten
@espdemon
@espdemon 10 жыл бұрын
1. Bryant 2. Jordan
@TheRockb24
@TheRockb24 10 жыл бұрын
espdemon that's the true order right there
@imsljr420
@imsljr420 10 жыл бұрын
Rock B kobe getting carried by shaq makes him better?
@ETCollectibles
@ETCollectibles 10 жыл бұрын
2 of the greatest ever
@swagattack24
@swagattack24 9 жыл бұрын
Kobe shoots 45% for his career and MJ shot 49% If you do some simple math if they both took let's say 80 shots Kobe would hit 36/80 and MJ would hit 39/80... It's not that big of a difference... The difficulty of their shots is not factored in as well. For example, 20% of Kobe's shots were from 3... Only 7% of Jordan's shots were from 3... In my opinion Kobe's 45% is more impressive than Jordan's 49% since Kobe shot a lot more 3 pointers
@kaushiksinha793
@kaushiksinha793 7 жыл бұрын
Kobe didn't have Michael Jordan's knowledge
@kenokoye6863
@kenokoye6863 11 жыл бұрын
i wasn't around back in the day so these classic games=amazing
@ranon81
@ranon81 12 жыл бұрын
I agree. 1987-1988 season was his best. Won the NBA MVP award as well as NBA Defensive Player of the Year. Alot of folks say he dominated the 90s but he was also pretty dominant in the late 80s too. He just couldn't get by The Bad Boys.
@markjohnfalogme2369
@markjohnfalogme2369 11 жыл бұрын
one great teacher and one great student
@geobkdon
@geobkdon 11 жыл бұрын
As i look at the conversation between kobe and jordan its like jordan knew in his head that this young kid had it in him and he can see it on his face and its just crazy to me because you can tell by how humble kobe face looks while listening that he wanted to be great like jordan and he looked up to him and jordan was given him pointers how to be better i love seeing shit like that you would think they weren't playing against each other
@Einsteinbomb
@Einsteinbomb 12 жыл бұрын
Anyone that can go toe to toe with MJ in his prime is definitely playing the game right. Kobe and MJ are both on their own level when it comes to the game.
@Jeyslayer_
@Jeyslayer_ 12 жыл бұрын
it's amazing, even though it's the Bulls playing in LA, the crowd gets on fire for MJ for everything he does... truly a loved idol... these days, there's just quietness in the crowd when an opposing team is doing good haha
@rustyHEAD3
@rustyHEAD3 12 жыл бұрын
There's nothing to prove here on who's the better. Both of them are good competitive players and they really had a very big impact in the game.
@f0gGenx
@f0gGenx 12 жыл бұрын
Just the fact he was able to hit that many shots is amazing.
@ranon81
@ranon81 12 жыл бұрын
Jordan was 33-35 years old during the 2nd 3-peat. His physical prime ended when he retired in 1993 at age 30 to go play baseball. His numbers during the 1st 3-peat may have been a bit lower because of the defenses back then. Handcheck was legal back in those days before it was eliminated in 1994. Tougher and way more physical defenses back then.
@StandAloneState
@StandAloneState 10 жыл бұрын
Man this vid was uploaded 7 years ago and has this many views...that's pretty amazing.
@PsyphaX09
@PsyphaX09 11 жыл бұрын
I'd hate to compare these two great athletes because in my eyes they are both the greatest that ever played the sport.
@TheSickWithITkid
@TheSickWithITkid 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Jordan vs the Mamba
@mightbegenius
@mightbegenius 11 жыл бұрын
The first name that pops into my head when I think basketball for the past 30 years is Michael Jordan. I think a lot of ppl are the same. That says everything...
@BigPapi2088
@BigPapi2088 11 жыл бұрын
NBA on NBC man I miss those days
@tobidnottobid4000
@tobidnottobid4000 11 жыл бұрын
Glad to see another Kobe fan admit Jordan was simply superior. I'm a huge Kobe fan myself and he's still my favorite player today, but all the other Kobe fans need to face the Truth. That our hero simply isn't as good and will never be as good, as His Airness.
@DetroitPistonsPride
@DetroitPistonsPride 13 жыл бұрын
I'm going to take a break from all this Kobe-MJ banter and comment on how great the NBA on NBC was. Costas and Isiah were a great team, and I love watching these videos solely for the nostalgia.
@alexvirginia1975
@alexvirginia1975 10 жыл бұрын
Kobe and Shaq.. From bromance to frienemies. They called it.. Kobe and Shaq eventually couldn't be on the same team.. Both wanted the ball. And loved the way Kobe shook off Adidas for Nike.. And until he got his own Sig.. He wore Jordans.
@TheChannelThatTimeForgot
@TheChannelThatTimeForgot 11 жыл бұрын
And finally after Kobe had that string of big assist games he said to the media 'Hell if I had known this would make the team better I would have done it ages ago' Or something to that effect. Jordan was admittedly a task master but he was respected by his team mates. Yes, even Cartwright and Grant acknowledged Jordan's greatness despite his demanding attitude whereas players were quick to say the didn't want to play with Bryant.
@TheBoarMan7
@TheBoarMan7 11 жыл бұрын
Some people are just too young to remember the Jordan era that unfortunately speak too much smack over the Internet nowadays without seeing him. You cannot use stats with Jordan, Jordan just had a way of making the impossible look easier than anyone has will. The Greatest of all time period. Even the oldest of the oldest players say Jordan is the greatest. Game Over....I guess iWin :-)
@kisswriters
@kisswriters 10 жыл бұрын
@ 7:05, Jordan wanted no parts of Kobe ... "Scottie, you take him" ...
@Kila_Kam82
@Kila_Kam82 12 жыл бұрын
MJ played his best in the 90s also.He was the best player in the game at 35...I'm far from a Kobetard...like you would love to say,I just respect Kobe's game.I would love to see Kobe vs Mike in each of their prime's.Can't no one be better than Mike,his drive,competitiveness,will to win,and he was just a supreme athlete.Ain't no player competed at a high level like these two has have.MJ was also the best defender in the league at the age of 35.No one will EVER do what he has done
@posterville
@posterville 11 жыл бұрын
Kobe is a legend and one of the best players to ever pick ball up.
@alamedfowfow8494
@alamedfowfow8494 11 жыл бұрын
michael jordan i really really miss u! please go back to NBA :P
@nbagoats4819
@nbagoats4819 12 жыл бұрын
I agree with a lot of what you say about Wilt. As for the most productive players to play the sport through an entire season, i'd have to go with Mike. Not even Wilt could compare to that guy's playoff numbers or total clutch performances. Wilt is the most dominant regular season player probably ever. But even he'll tell you (which he has) that he didn't have a killer instinct. He just didn't have that overdrive that MJ had.
@_Paul_N
@_Paul_N 12 жыл бұрын
Two of the best ever going at it on the same court. Jordan is #1, & Kobe is #2.
@EMPERORBEASWAHRIAH
@EMPERORBEASWAHRIAH 11 жыл бұрын
I said Jordan never saw a team like the "04 Pistons IN THE FINALS he went 5-6 during that stretch and Kobe showed you what he could do when he plays point this year.
@Kila_Kam82
@Kila_Kam82 11 жыл бұрын
Nice way to put it.They are both GREAT PLAYERS.I don't understand the hate people show towards Kobe.MJ's still the greatest in my opinion,but Kobe's not far behind.HATERS can say what they want,but truth is the truth no matter how much they dislike this simple fact.
@drveteran7
@drveteran7 12 жыл бұрын
I love both of them thats good jordan giving him good advice before he retire!
@bwink23
@bwink23 12 жыл бұрын
Isn't it amazing how Jordan can take off 3 years, gain 30 pounds, get his ribs broke in his comeback attempt during training just before the season, play for a shitty team and STILL shoot better from the midrange than a prime 23-24 year old Kobe on similar shot attempts....And doing so on bad knees that needed surgical repair, at the ripe age of 39 and 40 years old?? THE GREATEST
@Einsteinbomb
@Einsteinbomb 12 жыл бұрын
"His numbers during the 1st 3-peat may have been a bit lower because of the defenses back then." Actually his numbers from his first three-peat were in fact some of his best. During the 1990-91 season his FG% was .539 which was the best in his career, while that year he averaged 31.5 PPG. But, I still think the 1987-88 season was his best. Even well into his second three-peat MJ continued to dominate and still put up great stats and played the game with the same athleticism and greatness.
@a0910529947
@a0910529947 10 жыл бұрын
Kobe kicked ass when he was on his prime..what a great player
@TheGodOfBasketball1
@TheGodOfBasketball1 12 жыл бұрын
His 62 against the Mavs in 3 quarters was his best game
@bwink23
@bwink23 12 жыл бұрын
After this season, there will be 19 players in NBA history with at least 4,000 3-point attempts. As it stands, Kobe is #7 on that list in total attempts. Kobe will also be #17 on that list in 3-point FG%. Only 2 guys on that list are worse than him. Baron Davis = 32.0%3FG Antoine Walker = 32.5%3FG What great company to be in.
@TheChannelThatTimeForgot
@TheChannelThatTimeForgot 11 жыл бұрын
I've read the books and heard the interviews. I can be objective being a Jordan fan. MJ was notorious for being hard on his team mates, but they all respected him for being what he was - the greatest to ever play the game. Oh please - Kobe has held onto to the ball so many times in precious situations were he was doubled and refused to give it up to others for a game winner. He only started passing because the media were crucifying him for it.
@allwings1
@allwings1 12 жыл бұрын
NBA BEST OF 2000-2010 1. Tim Duncan (3 MVP, 3 Final MVP , ROY) 2. Shaquile Oneal (2 MVP. 3 Final MVP,All Star MVP, ROY) 3. Lebron James (3 MVP, Scoring Champions, ROY, All Star MVP) 4. Kobrick '0 assist' Bryant 5. Dereck Fischer (5 FIVE RINGS baby)
@bobsagetlovesu
@bobsagetlovesu 12 жыл бұрын
Essentially, people are forgetting that Kobe went from high school to the NBA. Jordan spent three years in University. He also stupidly played baseball for two years. Tack on 5 years of stats and subtract the years on the Wizards. Pretty simple who reigns supreme. Oh, and in case people were wondering, i'm a Bulls fan and ultimately believe Kobe's/Shaq's Lakers won their rings with one of the best benches ever. Not solely by their starters like the Bulls did.
@Einsteinbomb
@Einsteinbomb 12 жыл бұрын
Well he had spectacular stats during his second three-peat by taking all three of his last scoring titles in a row prior to retiring a second time. Most NBA historian indicate that MJ's prime ended with the 1998 NBA Finals. But, one could argue the best Jordan played in the late 1980s.
@bwink23
@bwink23 12 жыл бұрын
Here's another reason PACE means alot for defense. In 2003-2004, the Pistons were 2nd in defensive rating....7 teams played at a very close pace to the Pistons that season....5 of those teams were in the top 10 for defensive rating. PACE does play a role in what some would call great defense....
@nbagoats4819
@nbagoats4819 11 жыл бұрын
Kobe cost more games than he won. He was the reason for some wins like any other starter. So was Robert Horry and DFish, but the biggest contributor to that Lakers team was Shaq. Shaq was just unstoppable at that time.
@MonstarCave
@MonstarCave 11 жыл бұрын
Kobe is so good, he made MJ want to play basketball again. Remember that.
@chili40m
@chili40m 11 жыл бұрын
People or either Kobe's fans,often compares him to MJ,base on flaws. Except no one never denies,MJ hasn't ever made any flaws in his NBA career.Which goes to show people,MJ has played against tougher and rougher teams back in his days. Michael has even admitted himself at some point of time that he has made some flaws. Except for Kobe on the other hand,who will never admits he's made alot of flaws in his entiren NBA History.Hence! 9 out of 10,MJ has made alot intelligent great decisions!
@sopa71479
@sopa71479 11 жыл бұрын
no its been a while since i've seen him do that. At the same time Nash makes things easier for him and he is playing with the best Center in the game right now. The guy literally has 5 former all stars 2 former DPOYs and 1 former MVP as his team mates right now
@900KING2
@900KING2 10 жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan- Legend Kobe Bryant- Legend. I grew up with Magic Johnson to watch, then MJ then Kobe. Anyone tell me who will be the next great one? Basketball will be boring when Kobe retires. IMO
@danielschmaniel3103
@danielschmaniel3103 10 жыл бұрын
So, besides the comparison talks, go to 2:06!!! You won't regret it. :D
@imsljr420
@imsljr420 12 жыл бұрын
jordan showed that he can be a spot up 3pt shooter in game 1 of the 92 finals when he hit 6 3's in a row...but he said he doesn't want to be that type of player where he just stands around waiting for the ball.
@Einsteinbomb
@Einsteinbomb 12 жыл бұрын
I would state he was in prime condition because of the stable numbers he was giving compared to his first three-peat. And no to mention that even his 2001-03 numbers were still really good considering his age. This just goes back to my claim that MJ defied the common notion that NBA players go through their physical peak during their late 20's.
@AirJordan2380920
@AirJordan2380920 13 жыл бұрын
@massdagod True. I agree, but I also want to point out that Jordan held the scoring title for most of his career.
@myaddiction2music
@myaddiction2music 12 жыл бұрын
stop comparing two legends, both deserve upmost respect because there's no players like these two
@Hindu2324
@Hindu2324 12 жыл бұрын
Kobe was young and still performing at Jordan's level look at him now... Kobe GOAT
@Kilox1000
@Kilox1000 11 жыл бұрын
Jordan probably was more consistent on the mid range but kobe over time evolved his mid range game to be pretty much on par with Jordans. I'd agree with the last part.
@chesschampion94
@chesschampion94 11 жыл бұрын
Yes it was. Ever heard of help defense? Bigs can just camp in the paint and MJ was still able to score which should tell how much of a beast the guy was.
@EMPERORBEASWAHRIAH
@EMPERORBEASWAHRIAH 11 жыл бұрын
Jordan quit because he was bored that's bullshit. Bill Russell won 8 straight championships and won 5 mvps he didn"t quit and the 2 years after Shaq left Kobe had no other all stars on his team it's amazing they even made the damn playoffs.
@MONCHTER23
@MONCHTER23 11 жыл бұрын
people might forget, at age 33 jordan had arguably his best season and kobe was slowing down a bit at that age.
@demarioqc
@demarioqc 12 жыл бұрын
Nobody seems to remember a young Kobe at all & its sad. . . In 2001 second round @ Kings in game 4 Kobe had 48 & 16 to finish the series sweep. Then turned right around and had 45 & 10 in game 1 of the Western Finals. He had 93pts & 26reb in back to back road playoff games and nobody remembers!! Thats a DAMN shame. What Lebron did the other day was great but it had been done by Kobe at age 22 and in better fashion too.
@TheHitAndKill
@TheHitAndKill 11 жыл бұрын
Last year had Kyrie, 2010 had a lot of great players. But I have always agreed with the idea college players need to stay for more then 1 yr.
@정영상-m2p
@정영상-m2p 11 жыл бұрын
It was awesome play which i've ever seen
@sopa71479
@sopa71479 11 жыл бұрын
Nash presents a player who is an excellent ball handler and great 3pt shooter and free throw shooter and a floor general for the lakers when Kobe sit. How does that not make things easier for Kobe?
@RohoicRamz94
@RohoicRamz94 12 жыл бұрын
Shit aint the same its like we were the 80s era NBA of youtube debating.
@Money408
@Money408 12 жыл бұрын
Kobe's 81 point game was not a blowout. He carried the team from 18 down to win the game. Plus Kobe was and still is always clutch throughout his career. Comparing MJ to Kobe is not accurate until Kobe has finished his career. I am a Kobe fan and a MJ fan. But I have to say that I feel Kobe is the best scorer of all time. You need a point, come to Kobe over Jordan.
@aobb223
@aobb223 13 жыл бұрын
hahah i love kobe's face at 1:00.. "holy shit michael jordan is talking to me!!"
@Cardinalsarelame
@Cardinalsarelame 12 жыл бұрын
Also, it's pretty easy for Lebron to score when he gets free throws every time he gets touched. If Kobe or Jordan were in their prime now and got that kind of treatment, their points per game would be mind-boggling.
@nbagoats4819
@nbagoats4819 12 жыл бұрын
There is a such thing as better career vs better player. It is possible for someone to be better than MJ, but not have a better career than MJ. The best way to judge individual players is by individual production while on the floor, and personal achievements. You can take a mediocre player and put him on a good team, and he'll get more titles than a great player on a bad team. Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain are PERFECT examples.
@Saveal2
@Saveal2 13 жыл бұрын
Yo this was one the dopes games of all time
@nickloks
@nickloks 10 жыл бұрын
they're both great...nuff said
@massdagod
@massdagod 12 жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan is the Greatest Player to Ever play the game.... And it's sad for me to say that it is not even Close. And I'm the one who created, Edited the uploaded this video to make Kobe look good....
@f0gGenx
@f0gGenx 12 жыл бұрын
Ooh i gotta see that one. I missed out on a lot of old school kobe so i really don't have the right to say which game kobe played best lol. thanks for the heads up
@nbagoats4819
@nbagoats4819 12 жыл бұрын
Look, i'm not here to argue about Wilt. And I never stated that the playoffs painted the whole picture. I just simply said that between the 2 players, the playoffs is what sets them apart. Jordan had more production in the Playoffs. IMO - Wilt is no.2 greatest player of all time.
@psychomajoreflex
@psychomajoreflex 12 жыл бұрын
oh that was intended for Kenny1984, not for kobefanatic, sorry if I confused you there :)
@Einsteinbomb
@Einsteinbomb 12 жыл бұрын
People say that MJ mostly dominated in the 1990s probably because MJ won all his rings in the 1990s. People are quick to forget that MJ had his best season during the 1980s, but remember MJ's early career was overshadowed by the Showtime Lakers and their rivalry with Bird's Celtics. As for Isaiah Thomas, he had a personal thing with MJ and took pleasure in denying MJ as long as he could from his first ring. That is until Scottie Pippen blossomed and helped MJ finally get passed the Pistons.
@imsljr420
@imsljr420 12 жыл бұрын
yes the game is played on hardwood & at the end of the day that paper shows what players did on that hardwood.
@nbagoats4819
@nbagoats4819 12 жыл бұрын
When Lebron starts cranking out the rings, he'll be in the realm of Jordan, Kareem and Wilt. He does everything else and he's ONLY missing the rings. He has good PER and numbers to show his production during his time on the court, all he needs to do is start cranking out the rings. And in order to win rings you need at least another HOF player on the team.
@7shawayne
@7shawayne 11 жыл бұрын
the one and ONLY!
@Einsteinbomb
@Einsteinbomb 12 жыл бұрын
I'd say anyone averaging 30.4, 29.7, and 28.7 PPG is in their prime. I know when normally we say "prime" we refer to late 20's but MJ aged like a fine wine. So, some would still say the end of his second three-peat was the end of the prime Jordan.
@imsljr420
@imsljr420 12 жыл бұрын
yes i agree aaron gray, matt bonner, andrew bogut the guy that toronto picked 1st in 06 & many others today are too slow to rotate to stop perimeter players.
@nyelement007
@nyelement007 11 жыл бұрын
Kobe is under-rated and will pass #1 on the all time scoring list.
@sopa71479
@sopa71479 11 жыл бұрын
i never realized Kobe was cheered in a city that had Lebron james or Kevin Durant playing opposite of him
@xcobet
@xcobet 11 жыл бұрын
Kobe will never be on the same level as Michael, as both is different and one is another. Michael was named 50 greatest player of NBA, so how does Kobe beat that? The last member taken in was O'Neal. That was the last thing there, they also even say everywhere on the internet "Michael Jordan is the greatest NBA player ever lived."
@Diversityandcompassion
@Diversityandcompassion 11 жыл бұрын
GOOSEBUMPS
@TalentoRdTV
@TalentoRdTV 12 жыл бұрын
Kobe, Eddie, Rick, shaq this's like play nba courtside 98 at nintendo 64!!!!! OMG im getting older
@whatsit2yaguy
@whatsit2yaguy 11 жыл бұрын
Better scorer, more athletic, slightly better passer stats wise, though he's capable of going "Magic Johnson" at times, more rings as the main contributor. Better rebounder, better in clutch (Kobe has the most game winners, but also has the most misses in general, including game winners, statistically, MJ made about half his shots, Kobe doesn't even make 1 in 3 game winning attempts.). More efficient. Willpower more or less equal. And far more dominant in the playoffs, especially the finals.
@Einsteinbomb
@Einsteinbomb 12 жыл бұрын
Well truthfully MJ was still playing dominantly from the his last few years including his return from 2001-03 season, but yeah, you can tell the difference in Jordan looking back. But, I think in the last three-peat was really his swan song because those last three finals including the two against Karl Malone really took their toll on Jordan. But anyways I still think that his best year granted he did not win a ring, was his 1987-88 season averaging 35 PPG on .535.
@Kraai13
@Kraai13 12 жыл бұрын
If Kobe started his first seasons like MJ. He would have surpassed him in everything by his 13 or 14th season.
@TheGodOfBasketball1
@TheGodOfBasketball1 12 жыл бұрын
Yeah 2 of those seasons as a 38-40 year old with the Wizards. Wizards actually did better with him then they did the 3 previous years. Same thing during his 1st and 3rd years with the Bulls (the 2nd season he had no part in the Bulls going 32-50, except for the 9-9 mark that the Bulls were with them). He was improving the team and getting them into the playoffs.
@udaization
@udaization 11 жыл бұрын
i miss nba on nbc.
@lonnyjuayan150
@lonnyjuayan150 12 жыл бұрын
still got rookies to come.....draftee that we can never expect to excel .....still got a lot of someone who possess an unexpected talents....
@Soufwest_
@Soufwest_ 11 жыл бұрын
Did you guys hear that? Michael Jordan said that at age 19 Kobe is more advanced than he was at age 19.
@TheGodOfBasketball1
@TheGodOfBasketball1 12 жыл бұрын
Kobe Bryant: "I'm sick and tired of being a sidekick" per Phil's book
@jamaal19111
@jamaal19111 11 жыл бұрын
I just picked a random sport that wasn't basketball. I've played tennis, I know how hard it is
@eheadselybuendia
@eheadselybuendia 11 жыл бұрын
Kobe got on nba after highschool and only got 5 rings and he is 16th pick in nba draft while Jordan got into nba after college at North Carolina and he got 6 rings and 3rd pick in nba draft
@sopa71479
@sopa71479 11 жыл бұрын
it's only taken him 17 years to finally accomplish that
@TwoThreeForever
@TwoThreeForever 12 жыл бұрын
3:08 DISHES TO MICHAEL!!! *crowd goes nuts*. Can't tell it's a road game for Chicago from that crowd now can you? =D
@nbagoats4819
@nbagoats4819 12 жыл бұрын
That's because at that time, there were ONLY 23 teams in the league (not 30 like today). The 1st 8 out of 11 teams made the playoffs. So with only 23 teams, a 32-50 record qualified 'em for the 8th seed. - there were only 2 seasons where 13 teams had 39 or less wins when MJ was in Chicago. - since '00, we've had 6 seasons where teams won 39 or less games & made the playoffs Ask the '08 Hawks.
@1RC1dominic
@1RC1dominic 11 жыл бұрын
i'm a kobe fan and after seeing some jordan's games, MJ is better in every aspect but they are very similar but Mj is better and the best
@chiku26
@chiku26 11 жыл бұрын
and 15 years later...
@fark4life
@fark4life 12 жыл бұрын
damn this commentator called out the kobe shaq feud, listen when he talks about shaq taking the most shots
@nayture11
@nayture11 11 жыл бұрын
Michael is a still the greatest basketball player of all-time.
@linlee1335
@linlee1335 11 жыл бұрын
科比加油,我支持你,希望你渡过难关,创造属于自己的传奇
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