Massive subsidence swallows a Schuylkill County family's backyard swimming pool

[@jatebee]

A subsidence is a "gradual" lowering of the land. A sinkhole is a "sudden collapse" that creates a distinct hole in the surface. This sounds more like a sinkhole.

[@garyowen9044]

No. A sink hole is a naturally occurring depression formed when voids in the subsurface structure can no longer support the surface features. This generally occurs in areas that are listed as a karst topography of limestone or dolomite. These soluble carbonate rocks dissolve over time, creat voids and, depending on hydrologic forces, may collapse at any speed. This is a mine shaft failure, other failures also mimic sink holes - utility failures for instance.

[@spqdallas]

@@garyowen9044 ... and neither one is massive. Each are, by definition, a lack of mass. Anyone that says massive sinkhole on the air should have their broadcast license revoked.

[@LAStars-sratS]

They try to use ‘soft’ language so it doesn’t seem so bad! What a Horror!

[@nancyseery2213]

either way, it's time to move!!!

[@t.c.2776]

@@nancyseery2213 they should have moved after the first one... but everyone was optimistic the concrete fill would fix it...

[@bdub4107]

Someone should see if old mine maps exist of the region. Others could be in danger and now is the time to do something.

[@VagaBond-m6w]

They called it a "mine subsidenece", so yes, a mine is responsible.

[@Dudeguymansir]

@@VagaBond-m6w I live in Alton, IL. Giant sinkhole opened up in a soccer field, about 2 miles from my house. No maps showed the incriminating mine. Mine subsidence insurance is not common (or even offered) for my neighborhood. Even after the subsidence event that made national news this year!

[@alsatful]

Its mining country, there are even active mines in the region

[@Zbruh69]

@@VagaBond-m6w no reading comprehension in there is there?

[@ginmar8134]

@@Zbruh69 Do you not understand how to agree and expand?

[@joellenpaull3294]

How is it logical for counties to open up land for builders to add housing on land that they should already know had previously been honeycombed underground by mining. The reclamation should include the structure of the ground beneath the surface. This is just one example of how industry screwed us.

[@kimk2635]

@@joellenpaull3294 one of many

[@DavidZeidersjr]

@@joellenpaull3294 how about it it was all mines illegally or by the govt they have state forests for a reason to rob it all for profit same thing here

[@davidgray1515]

Just an example of how dumb humans are.

[@chilledmonkeebrains]

@@joellenpaull3294 money 💰

[@Squid65432]

@@joellenpaull3294 it's not logical but it's profitable and that is all that matters

[@dariaschooler]

Note to self, check for old mines before buying land to build a home on…. Glad no one was hurt.

[@deannamarie8389]

I just want to tell you I love your profile picture. Daria was the best!

[@GorgyPorgy65]

They look like they are near a water source...more likely underground water caves.

[@thebabscat]

@@GorgyPorgy65 Nope, it was an abandoned mine.

[@SniperLogic]

@@dariaschooler and glad no one disappeared completely……like the pool. 😳

[@ronkruchten5867]

350 LOADS of concrete dumped into the first hole the first time, in a (predictably futile) attempt to stabilize the ground??!!! That's probably more money in concrete than the entire property is worth. STUPID idea for a solution.

[@KatiTheButcher]

Im sure all that extra weight didnt help.

[@LoveLunaPearll]

If you’ve ever tried to ice a cake with a crack in it, you’d realize the icing only puts pressure on the cake pieces PUSHING THEM FURTHER APART. Whoever came up with the idea of filling in the hole with concrete is a complete idiot who never took a science class. And they want MORE of this 😅 Good luck when billion dollar companies are building all the homes on crappy land with ZERO regulations because they just got a free pass to bypass all of our safety and environmental laws, as well as any other laws/regulations that have been put in place over past decades to try to stop this kind of subjugation of consumers, which are going to be eliminated. This property is worth ZERO DOLLARS now, so this family will be lucky to get a few coins tossed at them by their insurer, and probably still owe money on this land/house while having to find housing elsewhere. America. Ain’t she grand?!

[@243wayne1]

Nope. Should have backfilled with soil and clay.

[@matthewdavidson8214]

Over a half million in concrete....SMH

[@lilyw.719]

@@ronkruchten5867 And it was done by DEP, so taxpayers paid for it.

[@paulthegreat3521]

I’m so glad that you and your family are safe for now, please get out of there while you still can.😢

[@dmiller1914]

I definitely would be moving out of there real quick before the next one

[@cayennenaturetrails8953]

AGREE

[@WilliamsPinch]

Where to go and how to recoup your investment.

[@my2cents945]

That place is worthless at this point.

[@MynameisDUmass]

@@my2cents945 right, I'd move somewhere else real quick! I remember that one sinkhole almost 10 years ago where this guy's brother got swallowed up by a sinkhole in his room happened in the middle of the night

[@DistractionPicklesEveryWhere]

All that cement they put in there lol it's worth Something.

[@galaxiepixiedinogoo13]

🙅🏼‍♀️that whole area…n o p e Love & Light ♥️🎄♥️🕊️

[@my2cents945]

@@MynameisDUmass Yes I do. Florida I believe. Potential buyers should be warned if there are old mines under property they intend to purchase. This is a crime, Typical PA coal country BS.

[@mikejohn0088]

Who could go to bed at night in that home thinking the obvious?

[@sunnyscott4876]

Remember that poor lady who fell into a sink hole a couple of weeks ago? That was so sad and scary!😕

[@Gamingreviewer300]

@@sunnyscott4876 the guy in Florida... still gives me creeps. They didn't bother to look for him, he was GONE.

[@justmejenny7986]

Thankfully as this was destined to happen, it happened now and not during the summer when people could have been in the pool. So scary. After the first time I would not have been able to live there.

[@indyjoyblooms]

So true. Wow I didn’t think of that🙏🏻

[@vengeancewillbemine3440]

@@justmejenny7986 exactly , i saw on news a man named Jason swallowed in his sleep with his whole house in sinkhole r.i.p. , every since my my fear is sinkholes . They authorities said they never found his body 😔. They house could legit be next to go in sinkhole why they risk they lives living there? Probably hard to sell house now .

[@KatiTheButcher]

@@justmejenny7986 hope they didnt pay much for the house. They are pretty much stuck with it. Their only choice is to abandon it.

[@davidanderson2973]

@vengeancewillbemine3440 Houses Can Be Moved, Have Seen Huge Barns Moved !!! BUT You'd need a Stable Lot to Move it Too ??? Not Aware of Your Location, Is There Even an Empty Lot OR Neighbors Pasture / Hay Meadow where it Can Be Moved / Saved to, Until You Can Permanently Resettle it on a Foundation ??

[@cayennenaturetrails8953]

Agree

[@mariearmstrong9185]

I'm so sorry this is happening to your family. I live in Florida, we call them sink holes. Sometimes the sink hole takes homes and people. They are very scary

[@healinggrounds19]

@mariearmstrong9185 Floridian here too. This is one of my nightmares. These poor people!

[@bozzskaggs112]

The end result can be the same but these are from mines.

[@kathyberry3878]

@@bozzskaggs112 believe it or not they are having the same problem in England. Abandoned mines as well.

[@ILGuy2012]

Sinkholes in Florida and mine subsidence shown in this video look similar, but have different causes.

[@dmo848]

My new fear in life

[@Chudsaves]

Coal shaft. The amount of abandoned mines under us is insane

[@whereswaldo5740]

@@Chudsaves I have family in West Virginia and it is a very real issue. Including polluting water table wells springs creeks and even the air.

[@Chudsaves]

@ I’m in Ohio on wv border. It’s a real problem here. Now has a one oil fracking …. Lot more problems coming up. Lot bad smells dead fish …. Little strange things you notice over time. My relatives live in East Palestine which is another story too

[@akguy35tattoo]

​@@whereswaldo5740so if you know all that then you should know about your own government injecting chemicals into the water table from shore lines..this chemical eats and deteriorates slate ,dirt and a whole mass of other things...also polluting the water beneath your feet.

[@orektez]

not just mines but also forgotten wells, when i was little our shed randomly fell into a sinkhole and it turned out that it was built on top of an old well and the rain had been eroding it from underneath over the course of 70 years..

[@lindakincaid4530]

and there are some that are on fire in PA burning as now creating Ghost towns.

[@212days]

Sheeeesh. Whaaat? "It's so deep not a trace of the fiberglass pool can be seen." Yikes! What a headache for the people who live there. Not just because the pool is gone and there is a huge hole in it's place but because you also have to wonder if your house is sitting on top of the next hole that is going to open up.

[@whatsup5791]

Somebody in China is happy about it. They just had a pool pop up in their yard.🤦🏻‍♂️

[@212days]

@@whatsup5791 Well yeah that's true. That's looking on the Bright side of things.

[@jamesalles139]

@@whatsup5791 underrated comment, right there. China recalled it?

[@alancummings4304]

While your family sleeps. No way

[@alexcornerstone6174]

@@whatsup5791 oh boy! I started laughing in a public setting!! 😅😆😂🤣😭

[@BookJay35]

Imagine paying hundreds of thousands for the home of your dreams only to find out now that because of the incompetence of the builder and the city you’re home is worthless.

[@David-i3k6u]

2nd time n 2 weeks in Pa. Lady was swalled looking for her cat.

[@jamesalles139]

R.I.P. Elizabeth Pollard, @64

[@cooliobroski3008]

@@David-i3k6u dang really

[@smorris281]

Did they ever find her?

[@circesoul2218]

​@smorris281 Yes, they found her body. May she R.I.P

[@DRventura333]

@@smorris281 Sadly, the found the poor lady's body, after a few days. May her soul rest in peace.

[@STV-H4H]

This is an insurance commercial written for Mayhem.

[@smorris281]

This makes mayhem look like a minor inconvenience!

[@ohthekid]

LoL Mayhem 🎉🎉🎉

[@massiahgrom]

@@STV-H4H he's from the county , he's Irish . Mollie blood .

[@timmullen8951]

The construction company should be held accountable for building houses over known abandoned mines.

[@carolaguilera6911]

@@timmullen8951 yea sure good luck

[@anthonydoyle7370]

They just gotta squeeze every last cent outta folks, I guess.

[@terrysweitzer6772]

Did they know???🤔🤔🤔 Some of these mines date well back in the 1800s and records can be very difficult to track!

[@carolaguilera6911]

@@terrysweitzer6772 did they know what it’s common risk in that state to have sink holes. Like earthquakes in California. It’s called buyer beware when you buy a house. 🤪

[@carolaguilera6911]

@@timmullen8951 no Sherlock. The buyer 🤡🖕🏻

[@ralcst-1977]

Subsidence????????????? How about a large "sink hole !!!"

[@Oldmane-420]

They call it a subsidence when the cause is man made, ie; a mine. Sinkholes are caused by natural erosion under the surface. Resulting hole caused is the same in both cases

[@mikechilds3037]

@@Oldmane-420 Thanks for the clarification. I for one had never heard the term subsistence.

[@haplessasshole9615]

@@mikechilds3037 Geology, like any other field, uses very specific terms for incidents. It's interesting delve into the tech-speak of the sciences.

[@kennethstauffer9220]

this house is just settling 🙂

[@eileengernet8670]

Mine subsidence had been a problem for years. I am a retired mortgage loan underwriter and we had to deal with this in known areas. Certificates were required before we could approve the loan if the appraiser noted a subsidence situation. I have been retired since 2016 and had not underwriter in that area since 2010. My mother was from Forty Fort, PA so I am familiar with the region. Someone needs to help with this situation.

[@RainAprilDiamond]

@eileengernet8670 is that the same as a sinkhole. Hope things will get better soon

[@kimroller3609]

So, a hole opened up 8 years ago and they felt comfortable building an in ground pool?

[@mikejohn0088]

I can't wrap my head around that decision!

[@miapdx503]

@@kimroller3609 only in America! 😏

[@kierielong975]

It is completely ridiculous that this keeps happening. How is it that anyone with access to the internet can use google earth to see places anywhere in the world in creepy detail, yet somehow there’s no technology being used to see if there are tunnels or holes under the ground where a house is going to be built? Why is so much money being wasted on stupid things like fancy electric and AI cars that don’t even work properly, instead of actual important things such as keeping people safe in their own back yard?!

[@spqdallas]

Why? No one would profit.

[@bubbleman2002]

As spqdallas said, I understand your frustration, but the only people in this world who truly matter, or truly have any influence, are those with money, and if their way of doing things isn't making money, it won't be done. It's a sad truth of late stage capitalism that must be accepted to maintain sanity.

[@juliecaudill2845]

So sorry and prayers for the family!

[@daleolson3506]

That’s one hell of a leak. Let me guess the insurance won’t cover it.

[@ralphjessee2688]

The mine is responsible.

[@fatjoe3391]

Another example of mining industry not paying their true economic and ecological costs.

[@chiquita683]

The developers should be in prison

[@kpizzlemynizzle922]

I prefer the term sink hole.

[@davidgray1515]

A sink hole and an abandoned mine shaft are two very different things.

[@haplessasshole9615]

someone earlier clarified the language. A "sink hole" is a natural occurrence. a "subsidence" is due to human factors, such as mining. This was a subsidence, not a sinkhole, whether you prefer "sinkhole" or not.

[@57HarleyDavidson]

@kpizzlemynizzle922 A Subsidence is a term for the gradual setting or sudden sinking of the ground surface due to subsurface movement of materials, while a sinkhole is a specific type of depression in the ground that forms when the surface collapses into the void below, usually caused by dissolution of underlying rock, making it localized form of subsidence. A sinkhole is a more dramatic localized manifestation of subsidence.

[@jamesalles139]

No mention of the mine?

[@eleephant9726]

Fracking can also cause subsidence.

[@XrayMike17plus1]

While mining is a necessity, there has to be a better, more organized approach. This puts a lot on property inspection and sub-surface integrity verification.

[@exposingthetruth3821]

Any responsible reaction would be to have originally paid the family off well and closed off the entire area. A fence, signs, and a payout would have been cheaper and more intelligent. You couldnt pay me to live there.

[@topteneverything7143]

So, we're calling them sink holes anymore?

[@MacUser2-il2cx]

More like a pool hole now.

[@DanielWSonntag]

@@topteneverything7143 too triggering

[@jamesalles139]

sink holes are more natural causes, from limestone formations that erode away - think caves. Mine subsidence is due to an abandoned mine, compounding whatever is going on with the geology. Notice the news story took care not to blame a mining company - oh, no.

[@FlavorTownCityCouncil]

If it's natural, it's a sink hole. If it's a mineshaft caving in, it's mine subsidence.

[@bonesaw6601]

So we're calling subsidence sink holes anytime soon? Why not sinkholes often,?

[@nicolewembley3093]

Time to seriously think of moving, your lives are more important then the loss your going to take selling the place on the cheap.

[@melindaunknown6411]

Nobody would buy that place.

[@CubaCarlb]

Corporate greed that the working class pays for.

[@Rock_K9]

Thankfully, it happened now, and not in the spring/summer, when people could have been in the pool. That is scary stuff though.

[@brendawilson7625]

I would have to move. Who knows if the house is next??

[@notw333]

WOW. I am so sorry for your loss. Try to find the glimmer of light that your house and family didnt go with it. 😢❤❤

[@davidgray1515]

next year

[@massiahgrom]

The land is stripped . The pillars thst were left so that this would not happen we're mined out in the 50s and 60s . I know this to be fact , as my family were miners . Mc Grath family , Lost Creek , PA.

[@rosemariebredahl9519]

Has any mining or hydraulic fracking occurred beneath their property?

[@jamesalles139]

'subsidence' is a code word for an abandoned deep-shaft mine that collapsed while not blaming the mining company.

[@FlavorTownCityCouncil]

They literally say it is mine subsidence in the video.

[@davem6685]

@@rosemariebredahl9519 no fracking there save the environment boy. Mine collapse.

[@jamesalles139]

@@FlavorTownCityCouncil time stamp of the word "mine", plz

[@scottfw7169]

@@jamesalles139 If you had internet access you could pull up the video's page, click show transcript in the description box, then on the transcript window click "Toggle timestamps" and see for yourself.

[@julesfrost2718]

I imagine some people won't be able to leave because they won't be able to sell their house.

[@mamatrain100]

Property that can't be sold. Developers preying on hard working people.

[@FlavorTownCityCouncil]

That's like a 40-50 year old house.

[@terrysweitzer6772]

You don't know that! It's just the easy answer!

[@mamatrain100]

@terrysweitzer6772 Ask the homeowner about easy. And bribes get plenty of building permits all over this country that shouldn't be developed. Ask the condo owners in Florida who's buildings were built on sand. But somehow got permits to develop anyway. They're old too. And sinking.

[@terrysweitzer6772]

@@mamatrain100 But YOU don't know the first thing about THIS case, so what's your point??? Do you just feel that you need to have the last word on something, or what??? Some of this information is simply not available!!!🤪🤪🤪

[@David-i3k6u]

U didnt move 1st time? Wtf?

[@smruthrauff-d6r]

That's what I thought, and wtf. For crying out loud 😅.

[@alancummings4304]

NO WAY ! How do you sleep ?

[@smruthrauff-d6r]

@@alancummings4304 On stable ground? Hope they move this time.

[@davidgray1515]

Magats arent very smart

[@JesW-x1b]

Absolutely terrifying

[@vengeancewillbemine3440]

Sinkholes my greatest fear.

[@StephenRoss-po1rp]

Carney folk scare me

[@bozzskaggs112]

@@StephenRoss-po1rp Especially the clowns. And penguins. They'll leap from your freezer at night and kill you! It's happened to me.

[@melindaunknown6411]

@@StephenRoss-po1rp Doctors give me the creeps.

[@DuhPunnyQuan]

@@vengeancewillbemine3440 I watched an series where a guy walked around a city to show where sidewalks are possibly going to open up next after a woman walking on a sidewalk fell through the ground. I am cautious where I walk now.

[@alexcornerstone6174]

​@@StephenRoss-po1rpVery good😂

[@lisakillz1853]

What's a subsidence would that be a sink hole maybe you should just say it

[@lindapindabelinda3570]

Yikes. Would it help if anyone ran ground penetrating radar over the neighborhood?

[@lawrenceartz8640]

Ground penetrating radar only goes so far. You will not be able to see hundreds of feet below the surface.

[@hollyjensen2371]

and the mine owners laughed all the way to the bank.

[@Freetobee-f1l]

Most people call that a sink hole

[@57HarleyDavidson]

@Freetobee-f1l Sinkholes and Subsidence are two different things, A Subsidence is a term for the gradual setting or sudden sinking of the ground surface due to subsurface movement of materials, while a sinkhole is a specific type of depression in the ground that forms when the surface collapses into the void below, usually caused by dissolution of underlying rock, making it localized form of subsidence. A sinkhole is a more dramatic localized manifestation of subsidence.

[@kevinc9934]

Why isnt this called a sink hole? whats the difference

[@TheJazzy254]

Water table is dropping all over the world. Underground aquifers going dry. Look it up.

[@TK-mf5in]

Wading pool to diving pool overnight? Prayers answered

[@ducamuk]

I think the universe is trying to send you a message. Move.

[@trailhiker8063]

This story gets too deep for me.

[@ohiosbestpeach770]

😊

[@johncline5502]

@@trailhiker8063 I see what you did there, very good 👍🏻👍🏻

[@jamesalles139]

👁see what you did there.

[@P2Feener305]

🏳️‍🌈

[@joeborovina4769]

🙂

[@cherylm2C6671]

Including the garage there appear to be several SERIOUS depressions that seem to be in a line with homes, at the bottom of a potentially saturated woodland slope. Worst still, the enormous installation of labor and materials means that there's guys still working down below amid areas also subject to hydroscopic (or is it hygroscopic?) collapse. Good time to speak with someone in Canada.

[@LAStars-sratS]

Mind boggling and SCARY! I’m glad they r all ok. Who says lightening doesn’t strike twice. I hope they get out of there!

[@Youcanthandleme319]

350 truckloads of cement must have Been $500,000 dollars

[@Aimsport-video]

The word for the day is “subsidence”… “subsidence”. Could you please use that in a sentence. “The subsidence swallowed a pool and half a dozen rubber duckies.”

[@johnz8210]

PA mine insurance is a bargain. There's no reason not to have it.

[@harleydude-xo8pu]

With water being pumped out of the ground from wells, population growth and old mining in the area. This will be a regular occurrence thruout America.

[@MichelleBattersby-dw3yy]

Awww, hell no , i would've moved the first time. That's scary!!

[@nankerphelgetv9308]

leaky pool liner causes erosion. sinkhole ensues

[@eleephant9726]

Their first subsidence in 2016 had nothing to do with the pool. The entire area is unstable.

[@mattblack133]

Time to move. That's awful. Just the worry alone in the future can make you sick. Good luck God bless.

[@user-no8ol4rl4w]

350 loads of concrete really??? What a waste of concrete and money SMH, again SMH 😮😮😮

[@brandonhoad9033]

What is with all the sinkholes all over the country suddenly

[@mikejohn0088]

Do you have any idea of the thousands of miles of under ground tunnels that exist in this country? The majority are gov't controlled produced by the use of "boring machines." Look who owns "The Boring Company" that mfgers. these immense machines. (the "Space X guy")

[@PALM311]

Probably coal mines running underneath the property. just like the one that swallowed up that woman looking for her cat. I honestly hope it doesn't happen but I wouldn't be surprised to see another story about this family on the news but this time with their house. I bet they're going to have to evacuate until people can get in there and assess everything.

[@urxwandonxgod]

I'd bet a paycheck there was a leak in that pool. Clearly that wasn't the only issue but I bet it didn't help.

[@taylorkratz2469]

Doesn't it just mean a bigger pool?

[@helidude3502]

Nope Giant toilet

[@whatsup5791]

No sign of the pool can be seen. Somebody in China just got a free swimming pool.

[@SPCLPONY]

OMG... These comments are too funny!

[@sicotshit7068]

@@SPCLPONY NO they are really stupid & very childish.

[@anthonydoyle7370]

Probably have to do a deep dive into their HOA rules.

[@vmobile890]

What is the difference between a sinkhole and land subsidence? Sinkholes are just one of many forms of ground collapse, or subsidence. Land subsidence is a gradual settling or sudden sinking of the Earth’s surface owing to subsurface movement of earth materials. The principal causes of land subsidence are aquifer-system compaction, drainage of organic soils, underground mining, hydrocompaction, natural compaction, sinkholes, and thawing permafrost. Land subsidence can affect areas that are thousands of square miles in size. A sinkhole is a depression in the ground that has no natural external surface drainage. Basically, this means that when it rains, all of the water stays inside the sinkhole and typically drains into the subsurface. Sinkholes are most common in what geologists call, “karst terrain.” These are regions where the type of rock below the land surface can naturally be dissolved by groundwater circulating through them. Soluble rocks include salt beds and domes, gypsum, limestone and other

[@lucasgarza3500]

Lol, Get out of the house,your lives,or,the house,used to be home.

[@bloodlove93]

ok squatter lmao no free house for you.

[@mariearmstrong9185]

These sink holes are not funny. They actually just happened sometimes taking a home with the family in.

[@healinggrounds19]

​@@mariearmstrong9185 I live in Florida. A woman in my town died about five or six years ago because a sink hole swallowed her little house with her in bed. She was an elderly woman. I hope it was a quick way to go.

[@Rectitude4U]

The obvious question is were they aware of the mine when they bought the property? Great reporting. (Sarcasm)

[@albundy3696]

instead paying 350 truck load concreate , they just relocate the House , pay the home owner that many truck load concreate could ad up more then house worth .

[@DRventura333]

Goodness, if that is mine country, sadly, they might seriously have to relocate, as it could be their homes next. Such devastation. Many wouldn't be able to sleep at night worrying the house might cave in. Not sure if this is same area the elderly grandmother was engulfed by a massive sink hole, to her demise, in Pennsylvania, while looking for her pet, a few weeks back. Her son had passed away and she was caring for her granddaughter, who was in the car, not far away from the sink hole.

[@macparker3549]

I don’t know the area, but is anyone asking about fracking?

[@Ay1Hunnayt]

Not wanting to be on camera for obvious reason then a news agency just playing old video footage is tragic. Imagine being so ridiculous you slither around the world like that. The same enrgy as "WeLl AcKtUly" type people.

[@sgtpepperz25]

Pool leaking...

[@Tipperary757]

Would have been helpful to discuss why subsidence occurs on the first place. Has there been mining or fracking nearby? What is affecting their soil -- twice?

[@nukepuke932]

Now they have an even larger swimming pool. What's the issue?

[@frankblangeard8865]

At 1:04 it is referred to as a 'mine subsidence'. Who builds an outdoor pool in Pennsylvania?

[@MonkeyMind69]

1:20 - Over 350 TRUCKLOADS of cement sounds like a MASSIVE waste of taxpayer money and resources. I get that we want to support taxpaying citizens during their times of need, but there needs to be some common sense around it too. Seems like there would be a better option than filling the earth up with over 5600 TONS of concrete, that could have been used for construction instead.

[@thomastuorto9929]

Merry F’n Christmas! Some present hey? Seems like the same time of the year for both incidents. Can’t they do some type earth x-ray scan to see if property is ok to build on for new builds in this day & age?

[@jamesf.ryaniii7918]

Why does this always happen near a swimming pool?? Is it the weight of all of the water and concrete on the already mine shaft compromised land below?? Or perhaps a slow undetected leak in the swimming pool caused erosion into the mine shaft below?? How come neither of the houses were swallowed?? The house has got be just as heavy as the swimming pool, right?? That's what makes me think that a leak in the swimming pool is the culprit.....aside from building on top of an abandoned mine shaft....

[@daneking1209]

Swallowed the swimming pool or massive upgrade?

[@scooterp7009]

Did they build the house on an old landfill?

[@merryhunt9153]

Did they get title insurance when they bought the place? (unless they inherited it?) A title insurance company should have checked for mines below.

[@LadiesofPurposeTV]

Praising the Lord this didn’t happen while you all were swimming in the summer🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼. This sounds devastating enough but so thankful you all are safe!

[@zebfox011]

They should move immediately for their safety and possibly their neighbors as well. That land is not safe at all!

[@sharit7970]

Yikes!!! It's a miracle nobody was hurt- if the ground is that unstable that it had to happen, good thing it happened now and not in the summer with people in the pool!

[@rhpsoregon]

I had something similar happen to me. I had a koi pond that disappeared one night. I knew I had a leak somewhere, The water would go down about 6 inches a day. But thought it was in one of the underground pipes. Nope. It was leaking through the pond liner. One day I woke up to the pond being gone and several hundred dollars worth of fish gone as well, nowhere to be found. The water leask caused the silt in the soil to migrate down into the watertable. With out the silt to "cement" the larger soil pieces, it was only a matter of time before it lost cohesion and dropped into the sink hole it created.

[@doreanabland1296]

Gotta love the excellent work that engineers do…

[@frankroy9423]

Improper mining practices, sue the government and the mine officials.

[@DonnaHenson-l2g]

This happened years ago in the 1970's in Youngstown Ohio. Unexplained shift of land. I don't think it's mining. I truly believe it is more complicated than that.

[@HollyBlair-wf3px]

I work as an abstractor in Somerset county and people are actively concerned of this very same thing.

[@LESLASLESLAS]

Imagine sitting in your pool, drinking a cold margarita, basking in the sun, and the next thing you know you’re under the earth. Glad this happened in the winter!!

[@pamelanadel3787]

So sad for the family. Right at the holidays 😢 prayers for the family ✝️🙏🏻❤️

[@sabine3769]

Whats a subsidence?

[@dreadfuldonkey]

As the world churns

[@r0nea]

Sink hole same as subsidence?

[@steveunknown8407]

This is why you should look into everything in the area before you purchase a house, mineral rights can have devastating consequences if you don't own them in a company is mining them underneath your property.

[@danieljones8173]

Where is this ?????😂😂😂😂Shy-kill

[@johnw4590]

I would definitely abandon that property. 2x is way too many times. Hope homeowners insurance covers loss.

[@laurie7689]

Most homeowners insurance won't cover sinkholes or mine subsidence. I live in a part of the country that has sinkholes and ground penetrating radar from satellites makes it look like Swiss cheese. Insurance won't cover damage from sinkholes here. PA has always been a major player in the mining industry since early on in US history, so it is riddled through with mine shafts. I suspect that now it probably looks like a termites nest underground.

[@gottagift]

The way i see it, these folks are paying a property tax for the location. Stands to reason that whoever is collecting the property tax money should be held liable.

[@beyonkam9965]

I would be scared as hell.

[@jameshulka7690]

Look at the outline of the property There is a line around it. At the back you can see a very small retention area with weeds, like a old pond use to be there before there were houses.

[@rodeleon2875]

from the look of the soil it appears that the house is built on fill and mine slag. around here they built multi story assisted living building on slag piled on top of old mines a few years ago. the mine is filled with water and is about 150-200 feet below the surface. i know because i used to play on it 50 years ago. only a matter of time before that place starts sinking.

[@heather-cz8yk]

You never heard of this in the 60s,70s, 80s....unstoppable GREED of today's home developers?

[@davidjones-vx9ju]

and buyers