Masterbuilt Gravity LSS mods worth it? Update after use

I now have several cooks using the Masterbuilt Gravity LSS mods and upgrades. I share my thoughts on what upgrades I like and which ones I think are worth the investment.
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[@northox]

Sold! Thanks, from Canada!

[@jeremiahs45]

Thanks for the update Andrew.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@devinnotschmevin]

Good work, very well presented and informative! The extra pics and videos really helped show and sell these mods

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@Paul-Coburn]

Excellent information. Thank you Andrew.

[@TKCL]

Thank you

[@richardhubbard2151]

Seeing these mods really sealed the deal for me on this combo! Thanks for the vid! Awesome!

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@cappleget]

Andrew - Great insight as always very thorough and extremely helpful review! Well done!!

[@TKCL]

Thank you

[@nycqnycbbq2380]

Glad to see how they turned out .. Great video

[@TKCL]

Been using these mods for months now, and I cook several times a week. Zero issues and working great!

[@ghulsbrink72]

Again excellent job on video. Definitely look into several upgrades. Thanks again.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@guyjstokesjr5761]

excellent review and video-I appreciate your time and efforts

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@paula.2422]

Thanks for the excellent and informative review. I just added the Masterbuilt 800 to my arsenal...the sale price at Costco was too good to pass up. Your videos helped me with my decision and I already have a call in to LSS and I'm expecting a call back tomorrow so I can order up some mods. Thanks again...I'm happy to be a new subscriber.

[@TKCL]

Still loving mine, use it 2-3 times a week. Enjoy that new smoker!

[@ZJMK605]

This is a fantastic video. Thank you!

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@ryanzynda5114]

Awesome educational video. That is a great smoker you bought. 🤠 I am happy for you guys. 🤠

[@TKCL]

Thank you

[@johnmccaffery5186]

Thanks for an informative video. Really appreciate the information.

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@larrykusler5294]

Another informative video. Luke is going to love it too. I see more sales in his immediate future thanks to you, will done. See you this afternoon.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@rongray4847]

Hi Andrew. Thanks for the update, I am very interested in this unit between now and the Spring. ❤️❤️. 🌞🇨🇦.

[@TKCL]

Maybe you can catch it on one of those crazy sales.

[@arnbirni]

Just bought 1050, thanks for your info Greeting from Iceland

[@TKCL]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@billybrown1979]

like the video now you have a choice which grill you want to cook on. don't get burn while cooking. be bless and safe and love. SAVANNAH TN.

[@jonrobertson5327]

About to get my MB800 and this video definitely helped me decide to order these mods. Will install while it’s still new to protect everything. Thanks for the great videos.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@asiarican94]

After watching your lss mods install video, I was sold on getting them. Ordered the Pitmaster package. It arrived yesterday. Plan on installing them today on my Masterbuilt 800, after work (I work nights). Incidentally, love your other videos, especially the ones where you use the MS 800 for your cooks.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching, enjoy the upgrades.

[@patsteele7599]

Just purchased a 900. Will be looking into these mods. Thanks for the video

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@uniform131]

Got the Masterbuilt 560 for my husband 2 yrs ago for Father’s Day, put it together last year and he just used it today for the 1st time. He LOVES IT!! I am ordering the Pit Master Package for him , I love all the mods and can hardly wait to install them. Thanks so much for the update!

[@TKCL]

Wow took a long time to use it. He will love how easy it is to cook on, I bet you won't get him off of it.

[@hrlee1141]

Great review for Luke's add ons.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@cb2872]

I just got the 900 Pit Master package!! Thanks for the info!

[@TKCL]

Enjoy! I'm still loving cooking on mine.

[@mastertech5036]

I've always been a propane gas grill type of guy. Haven't used charcoal for ages. I've always bought the 6 burner grills & love them. As I upgrade my backyard, I've been looking to add a charcoal/wood burners/smokers. It came down to the Masterbuilt 1050 or the Primate grills. After watching your channel, I ordered the Masterbuilt 1050 & accessories & the LSS mods today! I have a budget of about $2k, so I'm ordering everything I can at once (the pizza accessory is currently out of stock). One cooking accessory I've been eyeballing is the pizza oven. That's the reason Masterbuilt beat out the competition. I've never cooked a pizza outdoors, but I'm willing to learn! Thanks for the wonderful info & keep cooking!

[@TKCL]

We cook pizza straight on ours and love the flavor! Enjoy your new grill, the food will for sure taste better than being cooked on a gas grill.

[@leodelagarza922]

Just bought my M800 I'll definitely be watching this channel after this vid good work.

[@TKCL]

Enjoy it!

[@AZD2169]

Hey thanks so much, I just ordered the MB 560, and I ordered the aftermarket accessories. Just one critique on your video and that’s lighting, try moving your camera to the back of a well lit area. Videoing from shade to light produces a dark video. Thanks again, you’re very helpful.

[@erolonyuru6519]

Great review

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@toddpacheco4748]

Very nice video Andrew ❤

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@seanbeattie6752]

His stuff is great I bought his elite kit for the 800 after watching your video. Now I feel I need the lid mod and the extended rack. All of his stuff works very well and is well built. As a side note your videos are AWESOME now I feel myself wanting to build a outdoor kitchen and it will probably happen next summer not as glamorous as yours but great information you thoroughly inspired me.

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoy the content, thanks for watching.

[@MichaelBrownOki]

Thanks for the tips, definately want the lift handle, love the elevated grate. Just cooking for three most of the time so price will determine the extra grate.

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@pampilgrim2274]

Hi, Andrew! I am so happy to see you later today. It’s been an eventful week here. My mother passed Friday night. She was 96. She is at peace.

[@TKCL]

So very sorry to hear that! Prayers for you and your family.

[@miahzzeebest701]

I finally had the money to pull the trigger and get an 800. I bought Luke’s pit master kit and a single large cooking rack. I can’t wait to set this all up!

[@TKCL]

Enjoy that smoker, I use mine every week.

[@norme1850]

I have mods from LSS and Klotemods. I installed all the mods when I was first assembling my 800. The hopper liner from klotemods was easy to install since there wasn't any buildup inside the hopper. I'll probably pick up a large center rack also.

[@TKCL]

The larger center rack is an absolute must have. I prefer one big rack and one factory small rack up top.

[@CanadaSocial]

Hi Norm, which were better LSS or Klotemods?

[@Bloodstryke]

With that closed damper mod, you could use it to shut off all the airflow after finishing your cooks to save your remaining charcoal from burning down so you can reuse more of it on your next cook.

[@RobertKohut]

*And finally* .... I just love my 1050 as a smoker. I won't grill on it especially the high 650 700 degree temps. I think those temps would be very hard on the smoker and destroy the precious seasoning as well, and might just wear out the fire box and heat distribution cover under the grates. I suppose it's designed for that but I had a 500 hp mustang and I would rarely drive it wide open for any length of time or with high frequency. It just wouldn't last, and basically it was designed for those power levels as well....LOL Well happy cooking and it's obvious you are liking the MB 1050 as well, what's not to like. The mods help and each person has their own needs that the mods seem to really help achieve. 🙂

[@TKCL]

I do occasionally run the high temps, but 90 percent of my cooking is 225 for smoking.

[@RobertKohut]

*Comment 1 of 3: LOL:* Great mods. My thoughts: Firstly the top hopper lid. On my 1050 I only added the felt type gasket to supplement the factory gasket. I did monitor the lid on first burn in and found a small adjustment on the latch stopped the small smoke leak. I don't see a need to protect the lid underside, it gets seasoned by the charcoal/wood smoke anyways. I always give it a wipe around the gasket area every time I light it to keep that area clean and sealing well. As far as the idea of adding wood to the ash can area, I feel I don't like the idea since it will add additional heat to an area not really designed for that. I always add wood chunks with my charcoal to basically always have some wood smoke while cooking. I add coal, a piece of wood, cover it with coal, another piece of wood, cover it with coal etc. It seems that using that method gives a continuous wood smoke so adding to the ash compartment seems redundant. The rear vent, mine is different than yours, mine has a double slide that controls the vent opening. I find this mod the best for cooking. By reducing the rear vent opening, essentially closing the stack down, I find I get much better smoke flavour and can adjust how strong of smoke flavour I get. Also it reduces smoke velocity providing for better even cooking on long cooks. An example is making ground beef snack sticks. I made some using about 25% vent opening and then made a batch using 50% vent opening (in comparison to full factory vent opening) I found that the first batch was too smokey and the second batch just perfect with the smoke flavour secondary to the "jerky mix" flavours I used. Also when I smoked fish without any vent adjustment, factory vent only, I found the smoke flavour too subtle. Once I had the adjustable vent installed and set to 25% the factory vent opening I got great smoke flavour on the fish. One mod I think you would like is the shelf extension. The factory shelf is way to narrow (not deep enough) for any kind of tray with the lid closed. The shelf extension is absolutely required so you can actually carry a tray requiring two hands and place it on the shelf with the lid closed and the tray not teetering on the edge ready to fall off. One more thing I did was buy a portable battery pack with a 12 volt output and run my smoker off of it. No cords etc. On my patio I would have to run a long extension cord and that is just too inconvenient and looks bad as well. The battery seems to be able to do more than 5 long cooks without needing charging (perhaps 50% power). Great way to power the smoker. I place the battery in the small compartment on the back of the side shelf so it's out of the way.

[@TKCL]

I like the idea about using the power supply, I've been kicking that idea around myself. I've still got to play with the damper some.

[@RobertKohut]

@@TKCL This is the battery I got from Amazon... TalentCell 12V LiFePO4 Battery Pack LF4100

[@patrikgibbons7560]

Like your channel and information, new sub here now, keep up the great work!

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@dymarke]

+ I've been using a 560 for over 4 + years and I'm surprised that you have to add wood under the fire to get smoke, mine smokes a lot through out the whole burn. I've also only had one grease fire after never cleaning but man what a fire. I just closed the lid and let go. It had been burning a couple hours when I went to bed so I have no idea how long it took to burn out. I did several Lss mods early on and now need to replace the controller and probe. I did a good clean this winter and everything is in good shape, other than normal grease and dirt there is nothing wrong. I've seen reviews saying they are cheaply built and maybe so but I've never had a grill last this long and still be worth maintaining and maybe upgrading with more mods.

[@TKCL]

I don't need the extra smoke, but I do prefer it and I like being able to add it at anytime by using the ash pan grate.

[@rburn99]

I just checked out his page and omg the prices are so high! Like $138 for a shelf? His stuff looks very well made and I do think several of these mods are necessary, like the grease catcher cover, the hopper lid seal, the firebox, larger shelves, but I'm looking at almost $500 in mods for an $800 smoker... and that's not the nice to haves, that's just the ones I think I would need.

[@TKCL]

Well if all that came with the factory smoker it would probably be $1600. This video is older too, I think the racks were $99 when I recorded this. With that said, steel is extremely high right now, especially stainless. Not to mention the tools and time needed to make these things. You want quality, you pay for it.

[@ronaldscott5786]

On the LSS site, he offers pretty much all of those accessories as a kit. May be cheaper than buying individually. Cooking racks are not included in the kit.

[@TKCL]

I have not looked at the website in a long time. I really do like having at least one of those racks.

[@ckellyarnold845]

Great video - drip pan and fire box for woods must have Have you cooked a Turkey on this grill Wouk like to see it done

[@TKCL]

I have the last two Thanksgivings. Turned out awesome.

[@CanadaSocial]

Another reason to get the damper is to stop the bloody mice from trying to get into the girl.

[@tonychandley1309]

So u need to spend another 3 to 4 hundred to upgrade it. That just don't sound like that makes sense, but hey to each their own. Great video on the grill and mods. 🍺🍻😁

[@TKCL]

Missing the point, cooks great as is. There's upgrades to everything in life. Sure some of these would have been great from the factory.

[@tonychandley1309]

@@TKCL I got ya. Like u said some of them upgrades should have been on grill

[@JoeAnshien]

Funny but it unfortunately makes a lot of sense. I have looked, and there is actually nothing that does what these grills do at any price. I have looked at Assassins, and Old Countries that go for $1000 to $2000 more. They are over 100lbs heavier but only smoke and can not do grilling, no app, wifi, or auto temp control. I have the 800 for about 18 months and use it mostly for smoking and chicken cooks. On chickens I end up at over 500° to get the skin crispy as I hate rubber skin. If you get the grill you will know what mods to tell people you want for Xmas;-) My 800 produces much cleaner smoke faster than my WSM ever did. It also replace a kettle and griddle.

[@mikeyp7235]

Great Video. My wife just got me the 1050 as an anniversary gift and I can't wait to use. I was wondering, when you have the middle rack in, do you still use the bottom rack? There doesn't seem to be much space between the middle and bottom racks. Again, excellent video.

[@TKCL]

Yes I do, there is enough room for ribs or chicken. It is a bit tight to grab something from the back.

[@jjeffk68]

Great video...I would have liked to hear what the prices were.

[@TKCL]

Check the website in the description, I'm sure the prices have changed since making this video. There is a kit that offers substantial savings vs buying each part individually.

[@jackd7402]

Andrew, great videos! What type of rack are you using on top?

[@TKCL]

The top cooking rack? If so that's, a factory rack.

[@paulhughes8364]

great video and info, thinking about buying this model. I noticed your hood handle has a plastic or rubber handle cover, i haven't seen this on other models, where did you get it?

[@TKCL]

The Costco models come with a rubber protected handle, different wheels and top racks. Everything is the same.

[@jrf9198]

Would you say with the grate in the ash can could you forgo adding wood to the hopper with the charcoal and JUST use that grate? Just check / add more wood every hour.

[@TKCL]

Yes I do believe that absolutely would work. I've been running less wood in the hopper.

[@holymolibbq]

I just came up with an idea! How about you use a smoke tube and place it on top of the grate! Your welcome 4:56

[@TKCL]

Because then I should have bought a pellet smoker. I like the flavor of real wood chunks.

[@holymolibbq]

@@TKCL you can put wood chips inside the tube…I’ll test it out and let you know how it turns out

[@furmc]

Thank you for this video. Quick question. You wheels do not look like factory. Where did you get those? Are you able to move the grill easier (i.e. on the grass)?

[@TKCL]

I wouldn't imagine this would be easy on grass. Those wheels, rubber handle and different grates come with the Costco version.

[@michaelheyen5472]

Just upgraded from pellet smoker to MB 560 after once again disappointed in smoke flavor after smoking my annual Thanksgiving turkey. So excited to move into the next smoking stage of charcoal smoking (electric, pellet, charcoal smoking). Just came across your video and my questions likely have already been asked. Thanks! Do you still mix in wood chunks with charcoal as well as use the grate mod for wood? What charcoal brand do you prefer?

[@TKCL]

Yes I love smoke, so I put wood chunks in both places. I use the cheap Walmart brand applewood charcoal, I get it shipped free to the house. The flavor is really coming from the wood chunks I make.

[@airwolf61970]

Can you put 2 large pork butts on that large mod rack? Really enjoying your channel. New subscription

[@TKCL]

Yes, a slight sag but it holds it. Separate them towards the edges.

[@reppost]

You probably won't see this on this older post but I'm gonna put it here anyway. The number one thing that's stopped me from seriously considering one of the Masterbuilts is the mention in so many reviews I've seen about an issue with the safety switches being messed up by heat. Is that really as common and frequent as it seems or is it just a "it could happen" thing and reviewers just mention it because it could?

[@TKCL]

Simply connect the wires and bypass them if you are comfortable with that, but there is some risk associated with the fan still running and the doors open so do that at your own risk. Also the switches are easily attained on Amazon for cheap and very easy to install. I cook on mine 2-3 times a week and have not had one single failure. I wouldn't let a $8 switch keep me from getting this smoker.

[@reppost]

@@TKCL Awesome, sounds like it's really a non-issue then. Thanks for the response!

[@wesleypitts8816]

I’m very interested in these smokers. I’m torn between the 800 and 1050. At any time during your cooks are you wishing you had more cooking space? I know you have a black stone but I’m very interested in the griddle feature of the 800, that’s what has me torn between the two models. I’m also wondering if the 1050 takes longer to come up to temp.

[@TKCL]

Can't answer the temp question, although I doubt there is much difference at all. I can tell you that I cooked 15 ribeyes for a large group. Another day a large turkey on a single shelf, vertical drunken chickens and another day two huge Boston butts. Unless your cooking for a very large crowd or wanting to cook many racks of ribs at the same time, I'd stick with the 800. You can usually find it on sweet sales too.

[@m9ovich785]

Squeeek. "CUT" HAHAHAHAH. Did you Notice Ruger sneak up on You ? Thanks Andrew.. Mike M.

[@TKCL]

He's always doing something crazy just off camera.

[@mikehorowitz7113]

I would say the firebox mod is probably a good mod. My firebox has disintegrated, the brick material has broken and I noticed it falling into the ash pan. I tried contacting masterbuilt but no luck. They are impossible to talk to. I like my masterbuilt 1050, masterbuilt has BAD customer service.

[@TKCL]

I've been told by others they say it's designed to rust away. I am not buying that excuse like many others.

[@mikehorowitz7113]

@@TKCL The firebox is designed to rust away? That is a poor design, especially when the firebrick they use is crumbling into the ash box. So I think at this point it would be a Hazzard to use it.

[@TKCL]

They claim the metal is there only to keep the firebrick in place while shipping. This is all second hand information. But yeah, I don't like it either.

[@mikehorowitz7113]

@@TKCL You would think masterbuilt would address the problem and make the product with better materials.

[@shawnsmeltz7426]

How do you clean the creosote out from the hopper? I'm starting to get constant bridging of my coals from it.

[@TKCL]

It's called a garden spade, I had an old one and it works perfectly for scraping everything out. Home depot or Lowes should have one.

[@maelynbees430]

Thank you for the info. I have a 1050 model. There’s a couple upgrades I might be interested in, been looking on the website. Do you think 316 stainless would be better than 304? I’m sure it would be a little pricier but I don’t think it would rust as fast.

[@TKCL]

I personally can't imagine much of a difference, all stainless is an upgrade over the coated steel factory parts. The inside parts should never rust if you keep grease and oil on them. I do expect the firebox to eventually rust and show signs of fatigue due to the extreme temperatures it faces. With that said it's a huge upgrade over the factory box.

[@davidshepherd7750]

316 s/s is marine grade and won't deteriorate anywhere near as fast as the softer 304.

[@CanadaSocial]

That smaller top rack does not look like a factory one.. the ones they give are very different and do not have the diamond cut.

[@TKCL]

Not true, the Costco model has upgraded wheels, different racks and a rubber coated handle. It's not uncommon for factories to slightly change models for large sellers.

[@richardhodges1113]

I was just about to ask where could I get the top rack from. Mine is different from yours, however I like yours better. The diamond cut shape ones

[@j132326j]

Looking for the handle wrap, where did you get yours?

[@TKCL]

It comes with the Costco model.

[@MyTowerofpower]

Who makes the mat you have underneath your smoker?

[@TKCL]

I honestly don't know, a viewer sent it to me. They are all over Amazon, type in grill mat.

[@MyTowerofpower]

Can anyone recommend any mod to the manifold to block the direct heat to make the bottom rack (grill grate) less hot so the bottom grill grate can be utilized to pack more meat in the smoker?

[@TKCL]

Yes, the manifold mod shown in this video supports a drip pan on top. Between the mod a d the pan it acts as a heat deflector.

[@MyTowerofpower]

@@TKCL Sorry for the late reply. My question would be , are you experiencing any low temps in the area where you have placed the manifold cover? (More-so The middle of smoker where the manifold is)

[@holymolibbq]

Does the drip pan affect the heat or cooking evenly all around?

[@TKCL]

Not that I can tell. The grill had a hot spot to begin with.

[@holymolibbq]

@@TKCL sounds good

[@itsjustWebbie]

Let's talk about those wheels! Where and how much?

[@TKCL]

They come standard on the Costco model.

[@itsjustWebbie]

@TKCL dammit! They're so much better than the hard plastic ones from the Home Depot version.

[@MontinqueErvin]

9:07 Greetings, I noticed in your video that your top rack differs from my factory-supplied rack for my 1050 MB. Was that a mod? I know I would enjoy a design like what's in your video. Also, the mod large racks in your review, do you think they are strong enough to hold briskets?

[@TKCL]

I have cooked briskets on the aftermarket racks with no issues. They have minor flexing. The top racks, wrapped handle and wheels are different from factory on Costco models.

[@MontinqueErvin]

@@TKCL thank you for you insight. It has helped tremendous determining the best mods for the 1050. Keep videos going!

[@Rob81818]

I just bought the 1050,out of all the package, which one do you think is the most useful upgrade?

[@TKCL]

The ash pan grate for more smoke and the drip pan is a must have.

[@Rob81818]

@@TKCL thanks, i dont see drip pan, is that the same as Water Pan?

[@TKCL]

No, the drip pan goes over the the entire factory drip pan that's notorious for flaming up. It also has holders for an aluminum pan from the grocery store for drippings.

[@TKCL]

Watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/oavboKqKdqqoq5Y

[@RobertKohut]

It seems a couple of my comments are gone??? Huh?

[@TKCL]

??? I responded to two long comments about the grill 🤷

[@RobertKohut]

@@TKCL Ya thanks, I did have another with the link in it and that one was deleted. I think I had another shorter one that also had the link. It's okay, at least I know now. 🙂

[@RobertKohut]

Looks like anytime I include a link the comment is deleted??

[@TKCL]

If it's an outside of KZbin link that's not allowed unless you have a mometized account.

[@timandrews4722]

Is it worth it for the 560?

[@TKCL]

Very similar grill so I'd say yes. For sure on a few of those mods.

[@timandrews4722]

@@TKCL which mods would you recommend?

[@TKCL]

Must have for me is the drip pan these grills are known for flair ups. The ash pan grate is excellent for throwing wood chunks on for extra smoke. The middle rack, personally I prefer one large rack, not two. And the cheap grate lifter. These I'd do again if I got another grill. I use them all other than the rear vent. Only used it twice on windy days.

[@timandrews4722]

@@TKCL what about the firebox liner and lid?

[@timandrews4722]

@The Kelley's Country Life any issues I should keep my eyes open for?

[@5150cash]

1st ?

[@TKCL]

Yep

[@5150cash]

@@TKCL 😯oh ok.

[@tejastrojan]

This smoker is bad a!

[@TKCL]

Love it!

[@markklopf]

Puppers wants and deserves some smoked meat.

[@davehein7466]

For your manifold cover (I bought one after a real bad flare up), when the smoker is cool/off, remove the manifold, scrape it down good with a putty knife. Then drill two 1/4" holes on the 'intake end'. Add two 1/4" x 1" bolts and four 1/4" nuts. Install 1 nut on each bolt, put the bolts in the holes, add the other nut to each bolt. Screw the upper nuts down to get the maximum hieght of the bolts. Reinstall the manifold. The slope of the manifold cover, will allow the liquid grease/juices, to flow to the drip tray faster. I scrape down the manifold cover after every cook/smoke. I've had my GS800 for about 16 months now, and love it! I also bought the 'fan guard' slide.

[@TKCL]

I got the fan idea too. I totally understand what you mean about tilting the manifold.

[@TheViewer315]

I'm with it! Great implementation

[@billsalsbery2296]

Dave, can you take a picture of what you are talking about? Are you talking about the manifold cover mod?

[@miahzzeebest701]

You should make a video on this!!

[@meyercm2]

I've had a 560 for about a year and have been putting a piece of 1 inch thick plywood under the wheels on the hopper end for low and slow cooks to help the grease flow towards the drain pan. I plan on upgrading to the 800 this summer and adding these mods before I use it. I like your idea for dealing with that. I also line the grease pan with a piece of foil to make clean out even easier.

[@RobertKohut]

In the deleted comments I mentioned some mods I got. I got them from Klotes Mods (Google it). One is the shelf extension which I think is absolutely worth it and the rear vent. Different than yours but should work similar... :-)

[@TKCL]

Interesting, does the shelf feel like it has enough support from the factory brackets? The way they mount isn't robust.

[@RobertKohut]

@@TKCL Feels very strong. I wouldn't sit on it but it seems as sturdy as the factory setup. 🙂