Mastering The Missed Approach

[@06houstonhemi]

Hello Jason and MzeroA nation, this is Pappa B and I'm at the 20/20. For today's topic, I say yes there is no issue for me to decide on a go around. It is like those times in sports when you know if the shot was good or bad before hand. I have done a go around many times and have no issue at all. If it doesn't feel right, don't push it..

[@johnfriend862]

When I was working on my helicopter license it was the middle of a hot summer and the field on the approach end of the runway had just been plowed. That nice, fresh black dirt made some wild thermals. I did four consecutive go-arounds, because I just couldn't get down. It was getting really old, but I finally got it right and was able to descend and make a good approach.

[@honolululoma9098]

A partnership I was in years ago with a group of terrific mentors had a rule that they told me very early on. Our home field had a well earned reputation for strong gusty crosswinds on the only runway. There was another airport about 10 minute flight/half hour drive away where the diurnal winds tended to be much better aligned and predictable. The rule was if you made the decision to go around and land elsewhere because of the winds, or even if you made that decision just based on the reported weather (no need to go "look and see"), the partnership would cover the cost of flight time for the day and someone would drive to pick you up, no questions asked. It was a recognition and thank you for excellent decision making with the group's plane. The rule was used and no one ever took advantage of the group.

[@AlyssaM_InfoSec]

Recently got checked out in a Warrior. Gusty 80 degree crosswind day and instructor was impressed with my first landing. However, I was most proud of my decision to go around on the second approach after the plane ballooned twice. Short-ish runway and even though I reasonably sure I could have gotten it down and stopped in plenty of time, I just didn't want to take the chance and figured it wasn't worth it. So yeah, I'll go around.

[@loupitou06fl]

20/20. Hand on the throttle, I will go around. Took 4 attempts to safely land at Cedar Key (one of the shortest runway in FL), even the cops showed up, a good lesson in humility !

[@captbobstclare4976]

20/20. Well said. A go-around is a sign of a stellar pilot. On every instrument appch & every landing my mindset always is “get ready to go-around”

[@IanRatcliffe-cb2hr]

20 / 20 from Australia. Well done.

[@ldfranklin2]

What a great message with, “If you are not humble in aviation, aviation will humble you.” That can also be taken in the same light on AC maintenance side, which I am transitioning from now.

[@BigglesAviator]

Best advice I dole out to my students...a landing is a lost opportunity for a go-around. Makes total sense to them.. and keeps them safe. Great series as always Jason

[@ajs1691]

My Instructor has a brilliant casual way of encouraging students to Go Around- on early solos he simply says, "Don't forget, if there is anything you are not happy with just chuck it away." That makes it seem so easy. He also had me practice them a lot, so it's all automatic and no drama.

[@BraulioUrbina]

20/20, thanks for the great info Jason!

[@HiTechRob]

20/20. Just like when I brief my takeoff, I EXPECT to abort the takeoff... for shooting an approach, I EXPECT to Go missed. This really helps reduce the startle effect for either situation - especially since both of these scenarios are probably the riskiest due to low altitude.

[@nelsontobar2510]

I’m just starting my ppl training and i need to start adopting good habits. IFR is next. Thanks for this good videos. 20/20

[@davidbaumgartner7215]

20-20. Thank you MZeroA Team.

[@michaelj.mcmurray540]

My Safer Pilot Challenge vision is 20/20!!!! The vision of my aviation future is clearly seen: Striving for aviation mastery through safer, smarter practices because a good pilot is always learning.

[@shanechristopherson]

20 FOR 20!! I fell behind a few videos and tonight I zoomed though about 4 of them to get all caught up going into Saturday. Perfection!!!

[@SatyaSanathani]

I am 20 for 20 here.I will go around. Better be safe than sticking to your bad landings. Thanks for all your videos. They are very helpful.

[@aleixparis6586]

20/20. I'll go around if the approach is less than ideal. Or even if it is, to keep sharp, from time to time. Thanks for the great quote "if you're not humble in aviation, aviation will humble you" 💯

[@danielsouth3228]

I am a VFR pilot, and Crosswind landings are the times I catch myself saying "I can save this", that is the time to go around. Thank you for the videos.

[@tylerhenley2285]

Yep I said this same thing three weeks ago when the crosswind pushed me waaaay over the centerline on my base turn... I should've gone around but instead cheated my way back to the centerline🤦‍♂have regretted it since!

[@brucecuratola6389]

Bounced enough times as a student pilot that “go around” became natural, which is good in the Houston TX area which is rich for windy, gusty days!

[@brucecuratola6389]

20 for 20. I’m still working on private pilot but these IFR videos refresh my IFR ground which I took several years ago.

[@yelkhettar]

I did my first official go around on my first solo!!! At FXE on a busy day! I will never forget this one 😮 thanks for the videos as always

[@danielcrucci]

20 for 20. Thanks Jason for the discussion about go arounds. I try to practice those every so often just to keep the procedures fresh.

[@cbret1027]

yes I do watch them all, been a few years out, Rusty Pilot so I really do not have much to comment at times , watching and refreshing. Thank you! and yes I will go around

[@tonyg4161]

Still here. Haven't commented every day, but 20/20. The missed approach/go-around maneuvers are one of several instances in flying where you hope for the best, but 100% absolutely plan for the worst!

[@Kervalen1]

20/20 Thank you for all the great information in this series. On one of my first few solo flights I had to make two missed approaches upon returning to our airport. I was so thankful that my instructor taught me how to do that.

[@drcode4]

20 for 20. I promise to go around when something is not right. My instructor regularly had me practice go arounds. Sometime right on the flare of what would have been a perfect landing. Thank you for this reminder that a go around is not a failure.

[@stevecompton8720]

20/20 Haven't been checking in everyday because I was lazy...but I am watching AND LEARNING!!! A lot of this is refreshers, but proficiency is king!!! You have inspired me to go out and just see how proficient I am in some of those "lost maneuvers". Jason, you and your team are a true blessing to aviation. As I have told you before, for me, your teaching style is right up my alley. I get it when you explain things versus other instructors/schools I've have in the past, so I truly appreciate MZeroA!!! (PS Shout out to Coach Ray as he does an awesome job on all your stuff!!!)

[@jorgeetrevino6790]

Jason, 20 for 20…. Awesome videos! Thank you very much!

[@ericolson5352]

20/20 I don’t comment on all of them but I have not missed one. Thank you for all the work you put into these videos. Most don’t know how much time and work goes into these videos. I am always ready to go around!

[@MikeSmith-ss5ky]

Great advice. I did a go-around on my first landing attempt of my first solo.

[@iammichaelmyers]

20. Amazing videos and education. “I will go around”. My CFI stresses that for any reason it’s not co in together - go around, show you are a smart pilot. Love these Jason!

[@earnedwings5206]

Yesssss Sirrrrrr I’m 20/20 and I do and will continue to go around. Humble and Alive! Completing the commercial grounds now!

[@vkulli]

20/20! I will go around. I remember one memorable event when I went around in Cleveland because the runway was no longer safe to land on (snow).

[@jiteanomi4092]

20/20. Roger! Jason....a go around is a sign of sound decision making..loving the videos, Thank you so much for a job well done

[@bruceorowson7294]

Hey Jason, been following you for some time now and find this to be a very important topic. I have had to do a few go around now do to strong crosswinds that come put of no where. Feels stupid at first till you hear all the other pilots do it all the time. Even the experienced ones. So my promise to you is I will continue to do my go around and not feel funny doing them anymore. Bruce

[@piperdakotaflyr]

20 for 20 really enjoying the content. I’m working on my instrument cert now and this is helpful. 🛫

[@gregsscubavids5128]

20/20 I have and will go around. Did it recently while on first solo flight. Don’t care if I get ribbed by the guys back at the FBO. Reset for better attempt. Greased the subsequent one on my solo 👍

[@duncancampbell62]

Excellent series Jason, excellent message! My flying school drives the message, “every landing is a failed go around”. I did a couple the other day, wasn’t happy with the approaches. It was a matter of pride that I recognised the bad approaches (gusting winds), and went around for better ones. Enjoying the series.

[@PhantomFlying707]

20 for 20. Thank you for the pop ups of why to go around VFR and IFR. I have executed go arounds, but I have thought of them as a failure and I have made the decision late. I will commit to working on going around anytime I don't feel comfortable. Thank you, looking forward to the 31st.

[@FlightSimJammer]

20/20 what already! I know its a crazy amount of work for you guys, but its amazing to wake up and have a new video on how to make us safer pilots!!! Thank you Thank you Thank you for all your whole team does!!!!! (I WILL go around!)

[@NITRO_CRYPTO]

500 hours TFT and still watching basic flying videos. Always something new to learn.

[@patrickmaroney8262]

20 for 20! Training for my instrument rating. Thanks for all your videos.

[@rgec58]

Caught up today. Thanks for these informative, instructional and great videos. And, I will go around.

[@19ij]

20/20. As mister Gryder said "you like to fly - go around fly 5 minutes more and then go home on your own legs"

[@ranjrog]

20 for 20! Great topic! Lots better to have a go around than bend something trying to save the landing. Same for going missed!!

[@seanmoss-pultz2460]

Hi Jason, 20 for 20. I appreciate the focus on humbling oneself. My CFI has told me a few times to go around anytime I see anything I don’t like. So yeah, “I will go around” is my promise to you, too. Thanks for the instruction!

[@RockGuyver]

20/20. I have gone around, and I will go around. VFR Rusty Pilot and will for sure practice what you teach.

[@bradtaylor7232]

20 for 20. I will go around. Thank you for another great video Jason!

[@brentreed2005]

Finally caught back up, 20/20! Loving the IFR videos since I'll be starting my instrument training soon. It's a great point you made about going around due to weather minimums and how you should realize you went missed for a reason. Regardless, I fully plan on going around.

[@levittken]

20 for 20. I will go around. Thanks for the great information that you always provide.

[@thepilotblake]

20/20. I’ve had a couple real go-arounds in my career and will always be prepared to go around.

[@edroman2042]

20/20. "Promise to go around". Thanks Jason for inspiring and teaching everyone in the aviation community to be humble in the interest of safety. You guys are amazing!

[@KingTiggerTank]

20/20. I need to practice these more. Thanks for the motivation.

[@cn9936]

Catching up Jason! Hoping to finally start flight training in PGD in March!

[@joshua.shinavier]

20/21 and yes, I will go around. Easy to get out of the mindset of being ready for a go-around.

[@frankdaniels8077]

20 for 20 - awesome stuff Jason! I am scheduled to fly tomorrow morning, and promise to practice some go arounds.

[@talnaor23]

Definitely important to go around. I always promote my students to go around when they are unstable on approach. Also one thing to remember is when you're at minimums and you're still a little ways to go for missed approach point. If you see only the white lights, you can decend to 100 ft AGL and still look for the red side row or red terminating bars. Once you see those. You can continue and land

[@tristanbush3374]

20/20! Your sayings are always great!

[@alanjwalker249]

20for20 such a great and important message Jason. I know I have made landings where the best decision would have been to go around. It is something I work on and think about every time now.

[@jasonleach2961]

20 and thank you. I have and still will go around when needed.

[@tazandtigg2000]

20/20 Going around! Thank you!!! I love these videos!

[@alex99ri]

20/20!!! Jason, next time I go into KEWB, I will go around!

[@daveeverhart7720]

Hi Jason, 20 for 20. You’ve made me more aware of the importance of a go-around. It is something I need to practice more frequently. Appreciate your encouragement. Take care and have a nice weekend.

[@greglong1492]

20 for 20. I'm not IFR rated but I have done go arounds. Just the other day I was too high on my approach so did a go around. While I was doing transition training in August for my newly finished RV-12 I also did a go around without instructor prompting. It's a vital tool to have available.

[@WilliamRivera-dj9ck]

Great learning video. Executing pilot induced go-arounds or a missed approach is indeed humbling and difficult to accept in the moment. At the first sign things are not right, I always go-around. Thank you for the videos and training insights your MzeroA team shares with the aviation community.

[@billyarpe8794]

20 for 20, for an old man this is awesome. Loving it!

[@hugovandenberg313]

20/20. My CFI usually compliments me when I decide to go around. Landing is optional, a go around is always safe.

[@michaelchaump8203]

Doing some homework getting caught up. Thanks Jason.

[@Braeutigamaviation]

20/20! Been lazy in checking in. I took my dad up flying recently and had to do a go around and now my sister gives me flak about "missing" the runway. I know she is joking, but I still see it as being safe. This is a great instructional tool and always gives me more to think about after the video.

[@jaredguidry7794]

20 for 20. I will go around. I hate going around a second time, but for the sake of good practice and everyone’s safety, even with my CFI on board, I will go around that second or third time (or find another airport). Thank you for these videos. As a private student surrounded by instrument and commercial students, I love these reminders that a go around is not a symbol of failure, but a symbol of good decision making.

[@Richard-mo1nc]

20/20. Although I don't write comments in the 31 Safer Pilot Challenge when I feel like I have nothing to share, I did listen and learn. So, for the remaining days of January, I will check-in. That is what I will commit. Looking forward to the Live on the day 31.

[@jonmitchell5266]

20/20. Of course I have a flight lesson on the 31st in the morning. Guess I'll have to play catch up that morning. As a student pilot, I don't mind doing a go around. Great videos, awesome content. Thank you for what you do for all of us.

[@frankvidjakdds-beverlyhill1954]

Hi Jason. My first comment. I’m 20/20. I will and have gone around. Thanks for a great series!

[@PaulSmith-kr7ej]

20 for 20. Thank you for all the work you put into these videos.

[@cesardeleon3856]

Thank you

[@lesredington4628]

20/20. Jason, I will go around! 👍

[@philvasquez4542]

20 for 20! I will go around! Tough concept but understand the necessity of it!👍🏼

[@jfadams.52]

20/20 Thanks for these videos. A month or so ago, on my first solo in the school's 172 at my uncontrolled airport I had an interesting go around experience and a lesson learned. I was in the pattern making my calls with traffic in front of me. On the downwind I noticed a twin Beech was pulling onto the runway after the traffic ahead of me had touched down. As I turned base and final I assumed that the twin would take off before I would land. However, it didn't depart, so I did a go around. This is where I learned a lesson. I did not offset my path at that point which would have allowed me to see the runway below me. As I was over the runway the twin took off. My instructor was watching and called on the radio for me to "turn right". I complied but didn't know why at that time because I couldn't see the twin taking off. In a follow up by my instructor the explanation was given that there was a radio/headphone problem on the other aircraft and the two pilots on board did not hear my calls. I'm a little skeptical of that explanation. I suspect they were on the wrong frequency because there were other aircraft making calls and they should have expected to hear something. The lesson learned was to fly an offset pattern over the runway if I am ever in a similar situation.

[@michelviso4705]

Hi! 20/20 I am not an FI, just a basic VFR pilot but I go -around when I feel necessary as often as needed. Sometimes some friends are teasing me. I don”t care. The go-around is a ”normal” procedure, hard landing or crash are not. From yesterday, I like the ” blood and fire”...

[@BraapZ]

20 for 20. Thank you Jason for another great video. I will go around… 👍

[@curtisgilreath2221]

20/20. Even as a student pilot I find this information on IFR helpful. I will go around.

[@grahamlees4394]

20/20 one of my first IFR landings in real IMC down to minima and no runway, so went missed and somewhere else. There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots!

[@NorthwestAeronaut]

When I’m teaching landings, I start with teaching slow flight down the runway which, among its other advantages, always ends in a go around. I teach that our goal is ALWAYS to simply fly as close to the runway as we can WITHOUT touching, until we go around, and that touching the wheels to the runway is actually the failure of what we intended to do. The nice thing is. When the time comes that they do fall in that way, it’s usually the nicest landing anyone could hope for 😊

[@thurmondcapps66]

20/20 Will do. Thanks

[@davidklassen2805]

20 for 20 I’m telling you i never did a go around other than on practice engine failures until after my ppl checkride. I always had this idea of when you are on final, you have to land. But it’s just the opposite. A wise pilot once said, every time you come in to land, come down with the intention of a go around and if everything looks perfect when you get there, then you land. Go arounds are not a sign of failure! They are a result of good judgment and safety concerns. A go around is one of the biggest tools that you have to save yourself from a bad landing or crash! Let’s all be humble and do a go around if necessary!

[@robmarionneaux5165]

On one of my 1st cross country solo - I had 3 go arounds ( too high, too fast, too much adrenaline). Talked myself into relaxing and getting the 182 (471JM) on the ground!! I was going to go around until I got a “stabilized approach!”

[@briandavis9245]

20 for 20. I love these thoughts - very well said. I'm working on go arounds now in my training.

[@ztublackstaff]

20/20 always good to practice more go arounds

[@yamilcabrera2111]

20/20 a few weeks ago I took a passenger and it was like I forgot to land and did two go around as I did not feel right landing. I was high or fast or not stabilized approach. Before that atc asked me to go around due to sequencing us too close upon landing.

[@Camille_844]

20/20! And I will go around I swear!!

[@kenfackler1382]

Will go around, and have. BTW, VFR only. The times I've regretted a landing most were when I should have done a go-around and didn't.

[@dekky111]

20-4-20. I’ve been humbled, so I’m always ready for the go-around.

[@dougiemcguire5627]

Summer of 1980 I was working on my private in a 1946 Luscombe 8A. My first solo approach I came in high, not having experience I was uncomfortable with a slip, went with the go around. My instructor never admitted it but, I'm sure he was wondering if I was ever going to get down.

[@timkey2041]

20 4 20 - and yes, always be prepared for a missed and go around.... been there, done that!

[@DaveSalvator]

20 / 20. Even doing basic pattern work, I've wound up a few hundred feet high on final and wind up going around.

[@abacojack13]

20/20. had to catch up but back on track. I promise I will go around

[@familyfriendfly7864]

There have been a few times when I should have gone around and didn’t. I keep thinking if I were a better pilot I would be able to make some of those tough landings so I keep trying. Maybe I am making it tougher than it needs to be.

[@tejloro]

20/20! (perfect vision! so far....) I botched a landing years ago (totalled the plane) and now I tend to go around almost too readily...

[@junetebarts1334]

20 for 20. I regularly go around. Not too long ago we had strong crosswinds at my airport and I was flying an RV12, which doesn't do great in high crosswinds. I went around 3 times before landing. I had already told myself that if I did a 4th go around, I was flying to another nearby area that has a cross wind runway. But I was able to land the 4th time.

[@erniekelly2479]

Back on track with 20 for 20 on day 20. Going around has never been an issue for me. Don't know why. I went around on the first of my three first solo touch-and-goes. One of my early instructors must have built it into me because my more recent instructors always act ... well ... not sure if it's surprised or impressed, but I've never been criticized.

[@matteovinci83]

20 for 20, definitely a critical topic, especially with having to manage power usage on the electric trainer im doing my lessons in

[@UindeChirudo]

20/20! And I binge-watched all of last year's 😬