I've seen people complain that the valley on the lift is too tight, those people have developed a bad habit of relaxing into the backwall instead of pulling into it.
@o.n.e.wayhunting10 ай бұрын
New riser, new cam, new cam mount, new limbs, better draw, better valley, legit 5fps minimum faster when shot at the same measured draw lengths and poundage than a P4/V3 series. The Lift is 100% a better bow than the last 8 years of Mathews offerings. It’s faster at the same draw lengths than every Hoyt I’ve tested this year, and on par with the Ethos from Elite (1fps to either bow over a chrono at the same specs), and only is behind the Core SR in performance. The PSE Mach 34 is still the best carbon bow on the market, especially with the S2 cams. A lot of good bows this year, but the Lift sits atop the ‘24 bows.
@Getdownorlaydownbum8 ай бұрын
Yessir
@gone4days9563 ай бұрын
except for the cracking limbs lol
@thedeercamp11 ай бұрын
The other thing to consider is that with the lift, you’re getting a good set of strings, with the phase 4 you’re going to want to immediately change the strings out.
@jcscustomarchery824711 ай бұрын
Who says I’m getting a good set ? lol you funny immediately changing these rebranded zebras out too
@sheerwillsurvival20649 ай бұрын
Why are they bad i very curious seems I just bought a phase 4 2023 model new
@BuckingFastard4 ай бұрын
@@sheerwillsurvival2064they’re not boujie enough for these morons. They kill deer just fine until you want to replace them.
@CainSeldon2 ай бұрын
😂 "Match Grade" trust me, they aren't.
@jeffgenchi58639 ай бұрын
I went to my pro shop to try the 29.5 lift. I have a Mathews V3X 29. For me not enough to change. The bow was awesome but I would have to buy new fingers for my press and the leg stands are not compatible. So I would have to buy new ones. Considering I have a great bow already I can wait to see what Mathews comes up with next year. That will give me the time to budget the new mattress press fingers and decide if I want to sell my trusty V3X 29.
@ethanfeatheroff913511 ай бұрын
You can tell which draw cycle is smoother just based on what your mic is doing when you draw listen to it every time you try to rip the lift back vs when you rip the phase4
@Chris_123rie7 ай бұрын
Very aggressive draw backs, driving me crazy hearing that! 😅
@ryanlopez455011 ай бұрын
the deals you can get on used phase 4s right now make it totally worth buying
@RemedyTalon11 ай бұрын
My local shop is selling new phase 4's at $999, I still bought the LIFT
@morder19659 ай бұрын
Phase 4 at my shop 975
@H_A_F_GAMING8 ай бұрын
Wow my shop is still trying to sell the phase 4 for 1399
@H_A_F_GAMING8 ай бұрын
Looks like it's time to change
@jamescoleman302411 ай бұрын
Genuine question - did you check actual draw weight on the bows prior to speed test?
@gone4days9567 ай бұрын
I went to upgrade from my Halon 32 fully expecting to buy a Lift. I shot a Phase 4 and Lift side by side and left with the Phase 4 and it was $400 cheaper.
@joncox26829 ай бұрын
I completely agree and I can appreciate you pointing out that they’re pretty much comparable except your saving a half a pound I watched other videos that were really trying to talk the lift up like it was just head and shoulders a better bow think I’ll stick with my phase 4
@H_A_F_GAMING8 ай бұрын
Im about to buy a phase 4 and I was wondering what the difference is . Sounds like the iPhone company just tweeking small things
@jons7e11 ай бұрын
I'd agree with the assessment. I think even the V3X is a 50/50 for an upgrade. But if you have a V3 or older, it's worth upgrading to get the bridge lock updates among all the other benefits mentioned.
@pennyontrack11 ай бұрын
Your mic position is better in this video. Don’t hear the tennis grunt as much. Thanks for the review. Would be good to see actual weights of the bows for comparison.
@Thedudeabides80311 ай бұрын
The noise on the draw is the whisker biscuit folks.
@TheNewBowunter9 ай бұрын
Can you do a Mach 30 vs ?? I have yet seen a video with a Mach 30 vs anything.
@kurtis7328Ай бұрын
I didn't like the last 4 bows Mathews made, then I tried the lift and I had to have it. So now I'm shooting the lift.
@robbiecleighmarks30883 ай бұрын
Gotta custom lift headed my way, very excited
@dillonwalling11 ай бұрын
I can tell you the draw cycle on the Lift is way better than the P4… totally worth the upgrade if you have the funds
@ryanyoung83058 ай бұрын
Why are you not speed testing with the integrated drop-away rest? Whisker biscuit is always going to slow the arrow down.
@HaxenHunt8 ай бұрын
It’s a matter of maybe 3fps
@Lordinvdious11 ай бұрын
I bought them both.......
@jameswilson556211 ай бұрын
The phase 4 seems easier to draw and to me on video it seems quiter
@omm776310 ай бұрын
Just wondering, why are you not using the Matthews Axcel five pin site? Or the Matthews QAD ultra rest? And what do you think about stabilizing bars? Maybe a 12 inch upfront and a 10 inch with a Matthews V bar bridge lock?
@whatsyourexcuse9274 ай бұрын
The lift sounds horrible in the draw cycle. Is that just the mic picking it up or does it always sound like gears grinding?
@H_A_F_GAMING8 ай бұрын
If i buy either bow and want a draw length of 30 fo i have tk pay??? And if yes shouldnt that be included ??
@enriquewilliamsteeny3 ай бұрын
Just picked up the P4 for 850 at my local shop. I feel like I got a good deal.. just stuck on optics decision
@SpalkeyАй бұрын
'It's much heavier right of the bat'... 'maybe due to the bow being just a hair heavier?' - those we funny :D
@williamswavely6984 ай бұрын
Soooo, why do you think there was so much speed difference between the Phase 4 29 review a year ago and the Phase 4 29 in this video?
@yungdro18753 ай бұрын
I shot them both side by side and walked out the bow shop with a phase 4 33 it just held better and i felt like I could hold it forever the lift was similar but it felt like as soon as I drew it back it wanted to take off the arrow So I shot then both alot more and chose the lift it's a mathews what else can I say and I'm coming from shooting a halon 32 for almost 5 or 6 years
@heberkapcsos773011 ай бұрын
Good review! Got my hat too!🤘🏾🏹
@RobGoodwinFitness7 ай бұрын
Great vid. i have a Phase 4... love it... I'll keep it!!!
@arthurshidler207011 ай бұрын
What release is that?
@ashleysmith419111 ай бұрын
Gunna need to see you throw pse into the mix…
@LindenLandcareLLC11 ай бұрын
draw cycle sounds very rough
@H_A_F_GAMING8 ай бұрын
What is the maim difference
@Wallyofthewild11 ай бұрын
Heck yes, let’s go!
@kmhendrickson11 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a comparison of the Phase 4 33 vs Lift 33, particularly focusing on which holds on target better. You thought the Alpha x held on target noticeably better than the Lift 33, curious if the weight of the Phase 4 33 would hold better.
@MrJPW7611 ай бұрын
what is that weird sound on the draw?
@carlparisi97493 ай бұрын
Let’s be real they are basically the same other than the strings. If anything a super light bow hurts you in the pin float department.
@longdrawarcher485711 ай бұрын
I like the phase 4 better myself
@RobertEva-l4z11 ай бұрын
Get yourself a used carbon hoyt, and you'll actually get the ibo speeds listed in the specs. And the same weight, without the chill on your hand that aluminum has in the cold.
@tonyviers-de9qi11 ай бұрын
If its cold enough for the aluminum to be cold you will have gloves on anyway. The temperature thing as far as carbon goes is , imo, just a plus thrown in there that really isnt a plus at all. Its not like your hand is grabbing the riser all day.
@RobertEva-l4z11 ай бұрын
@@tonyviers-de9qi where do you hunt?
@tonyviers-de9qi11 ай бұрын
@@RobertEva-l4z Missouri
@WolfinWolvesClothing71311 ай бұрын
Yea, Ohio winter sux carrying a bare aluminum riser 3/4 mile to my stand. Love my rx8. A lot of times I hold my bow for the last half hr or whole hr before dark. Loved my rx7, now I love my rx8. I use my athens with the bare aluminum riser off and on in early season.
@DavidBridge-u8d11 ай бұрын
Thanks for that info Very helpful because I went to buy a phase 4 2 months ago and was encouraged to wait for the new ones So I got home and looked on Mathew’s website and there was nothing about the Lift I couldn’t find any information at all Only the Title target bows So I called around and got no help I was anxious so I got a pretty decent deal on a phase 4 and it is a beast I’m walking on crutches so I can’t shoot much but I have already Robin Hooded one I have never done that in 35 years of shooting I’ve come close But I love it It shoots so smooth Plus they keep these new models in production for a couple of years anyway and what will they come up with next They keep improving
@jaseschellinger924010 ай бұрын
How do you manage to write that much content without using a single period? Wow.
@thomasvanderhoff76810 ай бұрын
I like the z7 and z7 xtreme better.
@johnstreet4458 ай бұрын
The phase 4 is much quieter on the draw cycle
@Merrittoutdoors11 ай бұрын
Got a hat love it 👍
@H_A_F_GAMING8 ай бұрын
Oh but its the 33
@charlesroberts17058 ай бұрын
People that get these free bows pushing,this junk on you
@HaxenHunt8 ай бұрын
Not me lol I’ll give my honest opinion… I’ve turned down so many free bows for this exact reason
@Joelfrickinjohnson11 ай бұрын
Hey daddy❤
@anthonylubic10 ай бұрын
I really don’t care about a lighter bow, this this makes the bow weaker, especially the cams.
@WolfinWolvesClothing7139 ай бұрын
Don't dry fire it or use it for a crutch, and that doesn't mean anything.
@tonyviers-de9qi11 ай бұрын
Mathews is not going to like you for this .lol
@triaxwilliamswilliams894811 ай бұрын
Everyone in the comments completely ignoring the same speeds out of the Phase 4.
@WolfinWolvesClothing7139 ай бұрын
The majority of comments I've read are a minimum 5-7 fps faster. Idk personally.