Our F1 Driver Ratings for the 2024 Monaco Grand Prix

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P1 with Matt & Tommy

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@NicotineRosberg
@NicotineRosberg 5 ай бұрын
Ocon & K-Mag should be teammates. Just for the sake of it
@JF6182
@JF6182 5 ай бұрын
Don’t forget about Lance Stroll too. Because he is also a sake teammate
@FormulaProg
@FormulaProg 5 ай бұрын
​@@JF6182I'd rather forget about Lance Stroll, actually. The only reason we don't is because he's the worst driver in F1 history. If you think I'm exaggerating remember he's been here since 2017. Never in the history of the sport has a driver this poor been allowed to stay for so long. There's pay drivers. And then there's Lance Stroll.
@shreyasmahendra6809
@shreyasmahendra6809 5 ай бұрын
​@@FormulaProgNaah there have been more than a few drivers who were worse than stroll but they certainly didn't get such an extended run in f1
@FormulaProg
@FormulaProg 5 ай бұрын
@@shreyasmahendra6809 yeah that's my point, when you take onto account the time he has had. He's the worst. Was Luca Badoer worse in 2009 when he stepped in and could barely make the car stop, yes. Mazepin too. But they were axed!
@14rs2
@14rs2 5 ай бұрын
Is this as a punishment?
@Smithy2204
@Smithy2204 5 ай бұрын
KMag deserves a 10/10 for saving him and Hulk from driving 77 laps just to finish 19th and 20th
@ramirovillarreal5666
@ramirovillarreal5666 5 ай бұрын
Good yoke
@FEDERAL_AID_RACING
@FEDERAL_AID_RACING 5 ай бұрын
Good egg
@Suzumi-kun
@Suzumi-kun 5 ай бұрын
if they didnt crash then they could’ve made up positions in the pitstops
@patricktrakzel9657
@patricktrakzel9657 5 ай бұрын
@@ramirovillarreal5666 🥚🍳
@greenlantern7959
@greenlantern7959 5 ай бұрын
KMag totaling the Red Bull and eating cost cap might have made the constructors race interesting this year. Taking one for the fans
@notsydew
@notsydew 5 ай бұрын
5:46 "He was a mile away from Top 7" Actually he got lapped so theoretically he was more than 2 miles away from top 7
@GlowingHorror
@GlowingHorror 5 ай бұрын
Top tier comment, well done
@maxholmgren7936
@maxholmgren7936 5 ай бұрын
crazy being lapped by every single car ahead of you, takes me back to like 2019 where sainz could be P6 in the Mclaren and the next car ahead of him (Max, Leclerc, Vettel) would be 70 seconds clear of him
@madscientist6843
@madscientist6843 5 ай бұрын
He got lapped by Hamilton, the man one place ahead of him
@BrandoN-ie1np
@BrandoN-ie1np 5 ай бұрын
Miles away... Check your ears mate
@notsydew
@notsydew 5 ай бұрын
@@BrandoN-ie1np I was just making a joke lol. But you are wrong, he defined said “a mile away” not miles
@ashleywilliams4335
@ashleywilliams4335 5 ай бұрын
You two should start rating the race as a whole at the end.
@Gaelic-Rex
@Gaelic-Rex 5 ай бұрын
Good idea. Give the weekend a rating
@ange1098
@ange1098 5 ай бұрын
I’ll give the procession a 1/10, personally I detest Monaco as an alleged race circuit. Should be scrapped completely.
@CH-px5vt
@CH-px5vt 5 ай бұрын
I love Monaco to death but it needs to be spiced up. Whether that’s running a smaller, Monaco specific, car, widening the track or adding a longer straight somewhere (don’t ask me where, move a whole building, idk). Worst case there needs to be a mandatory 2 stop or even 3 stop to add some strategy to the event. SOMETHING!!! It has potential to be great, just not when they drive 1000hp school buses around it.
@Silonomono
@Silonomono 5 ай бұрын
They can't even give consistent driver ratings. Needs to be - Driver rating - Car rating - Quali rating - Race rating
@MorganBrady
@MorganBrady 5 ай бұрын
Big time yes
@halflanding1900
@halflanding1900 5 ай бұрын
5:34 Thanks for rating Yuki, both of you. Re: “mile away,” he was repeatedly told by Mattia his engineer to go slow - so as not to give Albon a chance to build a free-stop gap with Gasly - and he complied. I assume the English broadcaster doesn’t follow Yuki’s radio.
@Joey-sd2uq
@Joey-sd2uq 5 ай бұрын
K-Mag Qualified 15th, Disqualified 1st😂
@burritoomg
@burritoomg 5 ай бұрын
6:15 Yuki is absolutely underrated this season. In the middle of Q3, he had a lap where he was 0.005 off of P1 and NO ONE said anything about it. He gets such little attention on race weekends despite showing flashes of a driver who would be winning GPs in a better car.
@ronan1686
@ronan1686 5 ай бұрын
Tbf track ramp up is huge here clearly, Gasly and Ocon were getting to P4 at times.
@betulozakkas9072
@betulozakkas9072 5 ай бұрын
He gets the job done, he puts himself in top 10 which is a great help to the team to get some points even if they drop back few positins in the race and still isn’t talked for that 2nd redbull seat. I cannot understand why he is being treated so differently than all the other toro rosso/alpha tauri drivers. Is it bc perez is decent enough? No he makes redbull a laughing point by being so not perfect. Are they waiting for Lawson? Makes sense but will they just throw him into there with so little F1 experience? I’m very frustrated about this…
@abigailcooling6604
@abigailcooling6604 5 ай бұрын
Why RBR still don't rate him is beyond me. He's doing soooo well this year.
@walkerpow924
@walkerpow924 5 ай бұрын
He have a 8th finish and still only get a 8/10 from fans. Someone has racial in their bottom of heart but they won’t admit it.
@its_clean
@its_clean 5 ай бұрын
​@@betulozakkas9072 The second Red Bull seat is reserved for Max's wingman, and that will never be Yuki. Yuki will never be a Checo or a Barrichello. He doesn't have the temperament to be another driver's dedicated rear gunner, and his aggression and intensity would be wasted in that role anyway. He needs to wait for a #1 seat at a team with a race-winning car, he shouldn't and won't accept a #2 seat even at a top team like Red Bull.
@reina.0_0
@reina.0_0 5 ай бұрын
I dont get why some people are saying that the contact was all Carlos fault and he should have started 16th. They both have the right to be there. It's Monaco, it's tight but a little contact that had an unfortunate result, doesn’t not make it a racing inchident. And regarding the restart in p.3, Carlos was just plain lucky nothing else, Zhou got stuck behind KMag and didn’t pass the safety car line. Welcome to F1. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't, that's just how it goes.
@mertcanhacfazloglu4862
@mertcanhacfazloglu4862 5 ай бұрын
I agree. Most of the time, nothing would happen in those type of contacts anyway. Also, neither driver did any extremely risky or illegal thing.
@krisnanakwame
@krisnanakwame 5 ай бұрын
Stop using logic and reasoning, modern F1 is all about outrage. Very disappointed in you
@reina.0_0
@reina.0_0 5 ай бұрын
@@krisnanakwame lmao
@daarom3472
@daarom3472 5 ай бұрын
​@@krisnanakwameI think most people are outraged by the insane inconsistency of the stewards and punishments. Alonso gets 5 points for "breaking a little early with a driver a half a mile behind him" and a racing incident with Carlos in a sprint race. Kmag doesnt even get investigated for crashing out 2 guys. And there are countless other examples, at this stage its just not even funny anymore. And its not like football where refs need to make split second decisions.
@caseyregan5188
@caseyregan5188 5 ай бұрын
Oscar was against the wall so it’s zero percent his fault. Carlos has to leave space and he didn’t. It’s true that the marginal contact doesn’t usually destroy a race but still he made a mistake and his luck shouldn’t boost his grade.
@Surfsaus
@Surfsaus 5 ай бұрын
Piastri deserved a 10 for his qualifying and nursing a damaged car for 68 laps. That was only his 2nd Monaco as well and he destroyed all mercedes manufactured drivers in free practice and qualifying and pushed Le Clerc to the limit in qualifying. I also think he possibly wins that race if his car isn't damaged and if the red flag doesn't happen. His only negative was a slightly poor start in the first start.
@mutleyeng
@mutleyeng 5 ай бұрын
yeah i agree. The Ferrari was the better car at Monaco, deserved an 11 to get as close to pole as it was
@adamheddle430
@adamheddle430 5 ай бұрын
Is a damaged car really important at Monaco? No matter the damage, would have stayed P2 likely. I still think 9 is fiar. I do feel he slightly bottled that final Q3 lap
@batmidgey
@batmidgey 5 ай бұрын
I’m confused how they do this every time lmao. Norris? 2 positions lower and I believe the expectation is still that he should beat Piastri. Piastri *edit* had Norris' measure all weekend and gets 1 point higher. I am confused what external factors they take into account. Not sure how this weekend is an 8&9 for Norris and Piastri respectively. It’s the same story every race week and I get it’s an impossible task but yeah.. doesn’t seem right.
@adamheddle430
@adamheddle430 5 ай бұрын
@@batmidgey did Piastri hand it to Norris? In quali, Norris had 4 metres of advertising board in his car and also had 1 set of new tyres in Q3 so he was kinda on back foot. But Monaco, races is difficult. Hard to know whether Oscar or lando was faster. 9 and a 8 is fair. Top 4 deserve an 8 or better. They don’t deserve anything below a 7
@batmidgey
@batmidgey 5 ай бұрын
@@adamheddle430 lmao, he didnt have the 4m in the car for all of qually. Just made it so his Q1 final lap mattered. As far as I know they removed it after the first run. I will change my wording to 'Piastri had Norris' measure all weekend'. I believe it was clear that Piastri was faster throughout the weekend.
@samuelmoncarey7183
@samuelmoncarey7183 5 ай бұрын
I believe Logi Sarge started getting quite good towards the end of the race. He did make one of the very few overtakes capitalizing on the blue flag chaos and once he got past Zhou he kept up with the leaders even if he was 2 laps behind.
@Sean_Madsen
@Sean_Madsen 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, I think this was Logan’s best race this season, right? He was just knocked out of Q2 and managed to take back the position he started in by the end of the race. I know P15 isn’t good, but if you put it that perspective, it’s at least okay. Plus, he was kind of screwed over by team stuff too. I know Williams is kind of struggling financially, but they have Logan a car with parts from last year. I understand why they did that because of financial reasons and that they want to give the better car to Alex, but is just feels like Logan was snubbed out of a car that probably gotten him into(the very bottom) of Q2. His tire strategy was also weird too. I know a few teams kept the drivers on one set of tires throughout the race, but keeping Logan on the same set of hard after the restart was a shit idea because of the 2-tire compound rule. To be fair though, he would have had to pit anyway if they put him on mediums, obviously, but I feel like they also could have given mediums in the beginning anyway. I know they couldn’t predict the red flag, but Monaco is pretty notorious for chaos in recent years, so I feel like they could have gone into the race with the idea of early lap chaos = early pit stop would have been much more beneficial. Of course, I have the benefit of being a viewer only, so it’s easier for me to say what the could have/should have done than for them to do it, not knowing what the team wanted to do to run their race. Also, as an American, I’m obliged to love and defend Logan Sargeant, even though we all know how unfortunate it can be to admit that from time to time. I do think things could have gone better to give him a better result this weekend, but again, I’m only a viewer and have no say in the team’s strategy or anything. Anyway, I’m done writing my essay. I hope you all enjoyed. Be sure to obliterate the like and subscribe buttons for a big ol’ smooch 💋
@zenunogoncalv
@zenunogoncalv 5 ай бұрын
He was the only driver allowing passes on track. Dude is terrible
@jprostudios8975
@jprostudios8975 5 ай бұрын
@@zenunogoncalvbrother. He still has 2023 spec parts on his car. He has 0 upgrades. He has been within 2-3 tenths of Albon in EVERY session. If anything it shows how amazing he is doing. He is absolutely outperforming that car and Albon is not taking advantage of his package.
@seniordipshitter8954
@seniordipshitter8954 5 ай бұрын
Apparently Logan was using a 2023 spec rear wing for Monaco and not a 2024 one. If that is true, then how is Logan supposed to get a good result if the team is literally not letting him?
@BwInNewJersey
@BwInNewJersey 5 ай бұрын
Vowles takes all that into consideration.
@Christian-FW40
@Christian-FW40 5 ай бұрын
I stated this in another comment thread but I will also post it here: Williams' line of thinking creates a self-fulfilling cycle, which goes as follows: Sargeant gets no upgrades due to lack of performance --> Albon & Williams' competition get upgrades --> Sargeant becomes incapable of achieving the required result due to an outdated car --> Sargeant gets no upgrades due to lack of performance. Rinse and repeat. Under this system, is it really any wonder why he is not performing?
@TheTentacola
@TheTentacola 5 ай бұрын
​@@Christian-FW40It is not like every race has been like this. Williams has a serious parts issue, and from all races so far, even excluding the ones that weren't fair like this one, Albon deserves the better car. Is it fair, no. Who deserves the upgrades? Still Albon
@migolmigol4874
@migolmigol4874 5 ай бұрын
You're all acting like he didn't crash every race in 2023
@Silonomono
@Silonomono 5 ай бұрын
Piastri has had less upgrades. Yet is still on the same pace as Lando
@reina.0_0
@reina.0_0 5 ай бұрын
Tbh we have to cut Logan some slack, he had a bad strategy and he was running the 2023 Monaco rear wing, he was doomed from the start Edit: I'm not saying cut him slack for his whole F1 career, I'm only talking about this race specifically
@danrandan16
@danrandan16 5 ай бұрын
he's still crap either way
@FormulaProg
@FormulaProg 5 ай бұрын
No we really don't. He's made no progress since the start of last year. He's only there because he's American and the sport wants that demographic to be the dominant one. Yours truly, an old fashioned Englishman.
@1tsyb1tsyt1psy
@1tsyb1tsyt1psy 5 ай бұрын
What slack lol? He had more than a season and hasn't had a single good performance.
@greydiesel
@greydiesel 5 ай бұрын
we cut him slack all through last year.. when can we stop cutting him some slack?
@zsfekete5211
@zsfekete5211 5 ай бұрын
​@@danrandan16 you clearly didn't watch f1 in 2020. Russell wasn't achieving better results in the williams back then. George Russell. Someone who is easily top10 in everyone's eyes in f1 right now. But in his second year in f1 he was finishing 14-18 most races. Difference is that russell didn't have an albon-calibre teammate. So yea, they put logan into an impossible situation, pretty similarly to zhou and mick to be honest. Proving yourself in a backmarker team against veterans in the lower ranks..... Low chance of success
@wonder-pdl
@wonder-pdl 5 ай бұрын
We’re being a little unfair to Logan here. Albon has an upgraded car, Logan doesn’t even have the full 2024 car, he had to go back to a 2023 rear wing. Everyone’s so critical on Logan but it’s not a fair fight when he’s driving a car still in a similar place to the Stake paper mache garbage can.
@russellyoungson8469
@russellyoungson8469 5 ай бұрын
He’s shite mate
@mohnishsial8142
@mohnishsial8142 5 ай бұрын
Yeah but he hasn’t shown any speed to warrant the team giving him any of the upgrades.
@valdemarjrgensen8072
@valdemarjrgensen8072 5 ай бұрын
And he is driving the worse car why?
@wonder-pdl
@wonder-pdl 5 ай бұрын
@@mohnishsial8142 the team aren’t giving him the upgrades because he doesn’t deserve them, that would be self-sabotage. It all spans back to them not having a spare chassis in Australia and them having to prioritize making it so Logan could race in Japan. It’s resulted in only one car getting the parts for Monaco, and since Alex is the more experienced and stronger driver, they gave it to him and it produced results. Logan didn’t have that, that’s all I’m saying. Until we see him in the same car as his teammate, we don’t have representative data for him to have a truly good or bad race.
@wonder-pdl
@wonder-pdl 5 ай бұрын
@@valdemarjrgensen8072 Williams just didn’t have the parts made. It all goes back to the chassis Albon destroyed in Australia, forcing them to make another chassis from scratch and delaying their upgrade path.
@tilio9380
@tilio9380 5 ай бұрын
Zhou deserves a 10/10 from Matt because if I'm not mistaken, him getting held up by the Magnussen-Perez crash and not completing sector 1 at the time of red flag was the reason behind Sainz getting to retain P3 at the restart. God knows what would have happened to the Monaco curse if Charles had two Mclarens running 2-3 behind him.
@luciekralova1287
@luciekralova1287 5 ай бұрын
this is genuine question, but what would change if Norris would have been in P3. Piastri couldn't overtake him, so how would Norris put pressure on him? And I think Piastri was better in Monaco and he always has agressive starts more than Norris.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 5 ай бұрын
So you didn't rate Max in Australia because he retired on lap 3 due no fault of his own and now you rate Hulk in pretty much the same circumstances? 🤔
@guygadbois7618
@guygadbois7618 5 ай бұрын
Personally I think this is because Max would hurt from getting something like a 5 but didn’t deserve a 10 even though it wasn’t his fault. For hulkenburg he just got his normal score
@bhavmak6897
@bhavmak6897 5 ай бұрын
To be fair they did say at the beginning of the video that it's more a qually rating...
@micky1878
@micky1878 5 ай бұрын
They talk utter BS
@tolulopeoluleye5302
@tolulopeoluleye5302 5 ай бұрын
Would you rate Max for Australia??..and what rating would you give him, starting and DNFing from pole within 2 laps....wonder how you compare that with qualifying in the bottom 10...
@tolulopeoluleye5302
@tolulopeoluleye5302 5 ай бұрын
If Max had qualified below pole position, they would most likely rate him..
@allisonk89
@allisonk89 5 ай бұрын
"10/10 what a beautiful man" 😂 Matt is one of us
@zqzj
@zqzj 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see what happens with Estebanned Ocon
@Whateva67
@Whateva67 5 ай бұрын
👍🏻
@zlm4869
@zlm4869 5 ай бұрын
Nothing will happen, so sorry for the disappointment lol
@mohammadfarzand4839
@mohammadfarzand4839 5 ай бұрын
Yup nothing gonna happen this year unless he crashes into his teammate one more time he wont loose his seat for this year but he wont be in alpine next year thats for sure
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 5 ай бұрын
A slap on the wrist.
@dubsessed9790
@dubsessed9790 5 ай бұрын
Nothing, we will just continue to think of him as an average driver at best, with some cringe sayings like "estie bestie" 🤮
@Wolfywolf7
@Wolfywolf7 5 ай бұрын
Good ratings, as always! A few things tho: I'd probably give Oscar a 10 as well, simply because he drove basically the entire FP4 session with floor damaged picked up by Carlos grazing him after the first start. If there was any easy overtake for the top half of the field, Sainz had the opportunity. Piastri is lucky it was Monaco, like y'all said lol, but he did well to maintain his pace throughout the race, and I don't believe he "fell off" towards the end, either. I think he most likely was just settling for the P2 at that point, and possibly backing up Carlos to give his teammate more of a chance to overtake as well. One thing I didn't really understand was saying that Zhou "hasn't had any of the standout performances that midfield drivers like KMag have." He has had quite a few in the past few years. It's certainly been a bit, so I can see why many people would forget, but his P11 in Bahrain was a fantastic way to start this season. People probably remember it less because he missed out on the points, but let's not forget that no one DNF'd in that race. I remember Matt saying something along these lines, but I quote, "Had someone in the top ten retired from the race, then Zhou would be right there to pick up a cheeky little point."
@Deadlyspark
@Deadlyspark 5 ай бұрын
I think he definitely backed off so Lando could have a sniff. On the last lap he pulled a second on carlos
@JonathanPeterssonPiano
@JonathanPeterssonPiano 5 ай бұрын
I wonder with Yuki, if the team would've let him push during race, that he would be able to get some kind of tire advantage against the medium runners ahead. I'm pretty sure he would be able to stay somewhat close, with Russell going slowly. But to safe was probably the best decision teamwise.
@JPD2587
@JPD2587 5 ай бұрын
I swore two weeks ago you guys insisted that the ratings weren’t simply “results based” so how does Sainz get an 8 for puncturing his tire and then getting extremely lucky on a red flag?
@As-qz5lr
@As-qz5lr 5 ай бұрын
Think you are too favourable to the drivers in the best cars. Should Norris get an 8 for being outshadowed by Piastri all weekend? Hamilton a 7 for falling short of Russell? Sainz an 8 for being behind his team mate and saved by a red flag?
@V8VRUte
@V8VRUte 5 ай бұрын
I thought Oscar deserved a 10 simply for breaking your biggest flop streak!
@marcuslobo5765
@marcuslobo5765 5 ай бұрын
I agreee
@tigerpjm
@tigerpjm 5 ай бұрын
Funny how he had a point deducted for not putting it on.pole, but Lando got an 8 for qualifying and coming fourth in the same car....
@caseyregan5188
@caseyregan5188 5 ай бұрын
How are we not taking into account that Carlos had a performance that resulted with him being back of the pack and was bailed out by a crazy red flag incident where Zhou just so happened to be the only car not go through the first sector? If that puncture which was his fault had ended up resulting in him finishing outside of the points which it should have, the rating would have been like a 3 so I can’t justify higher than a 6.
@kkf12715
@kkf12715 5 ай бұрын
it's just pure luck
@TheKilston
@TheKilston 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, as Mercedes said themselves in their debrief the undercut would most likely not have worked anyway : red bull would just have left Max out if Lewis was too close to his pit window. The actual blunder is that they ended up giving Max the opportunity to put George under pressure, instead of having Lewis pressure Max.
@ankeshkumar8988
@ankeshkumar8988 5 ай бұрын
Oscar being rated below yuki is reduculous.
@marantamil459
@marantamil459 5 ай бұрын
Logan had to drive with 2023 parts. Albon had new parts. Logan actually had a decent drive.
@Spike-sk7ql
@Spike-sk7ql 5 ай бұрын
They hate the fact that Logan is even near the paddock. For some reason, they really hate Americans.
@JotaSE30
@JotaSE30 5 ай бұрын
Max wouldn't have stopped if the gap was too close, that's why they didn't tell Lewis to push. He would be behind either way, albeit on fresher tires if Max didn't stop, but as we saw with Max that didn't help.
@BwInNewJersey
@BwInNewJersey 5 ай бұрын
Huh?
@mikeuuuytffvghjjoopoiytf
@mikeuuuytffvghjjoopoiytf 5 ай бұрын
I mean, they could have ensured that Max couldn't stop by telling Russel to go slow after Lewis pits. Literally no reason not to do this. The way mercedes did it just allowed max to also pit and then put Russel under pressure. It was just dumb plain and simple.
@ehrlichgesagt863
@ehrlichgesagt863 5 ай бұрын
​@@mikeuuuytffvghjjoopoiytf there is, you hope Red bull go for it because the gap seems save and then a mistake happens and he end up behind him. Obviously not likely but why not hope. Holding him back and having better tyres is not really a option because Lewis wouldnt risk it for just a couple points and especially with there history.
@cerdas1814
@cerdas1814 5 ай бұрын
I think Carlos should have been a 9. He did not make any overtakes because he was making sure that Lando did not pit. Also, if you watched his onboard, this man was essentially carrying the Ferrari strategists. He was even throwing some strategies for Leclerc to use! His drive was incredibly smart and essential to the race. His brain was working nonstop this race in order to ensure that Charles finished first.
@askeladden450
@askeladden450 5 ай бұрын
Lets be real here, everything both he and charles were doing was being told to them by strategists, not the other way round. And being 2.5 tenths of your teammate throughout the weekend isnt a 9. He should have been p2 at the very least and secure a 1-2 but he failed to do that.
@adamheddle430
@adamheddle430 5 ай бұрын
Think for both Carlos and lando, 8 is fair. Got outqualfied by a tenth or two by their teammates and couldn’t do much more from P3 and P4. But still a solid job
@Mishybells
@Mishybells 5 ай бұрын
Plz b fr, yes he was yapping on his radio, but Ferrari followed their own strategy, and headed him no further. 🙏🏻 Jst cuz he’s yapping doesn’t mean he’s throwing strategies. Plus it would b soo freakin dump for him to do say it out loud on radio for other teams to hear it & ferrari ain’t that stupid 🤣
@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm
@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm 5 ай бұрын
9 for somebody who almost ended up running last for his very optimistic overtake attempt and was saved only by KMags shenanigans is a delusion, sorry mate
@Larsonaut
@Larsonaut 5 ай бұрын
4 for Carlos. He crashed out of the race or at least out of the points if there would not have been a 🚩 red flag.. luckiest driver of the weekend
@94notyou
@94notyou 5 ай бұрын
Sargaent was driving an older spec according to Albon and Albon also said Sargaent would have made it to q2 since he was 3 tenths off him in q1. With the terrible strategy on top of that, I think he did okay. I'd give him a 6.
@chezzyhehe
@chezzyhehe 5 ай бұрын
I love that they ask us, the fans, to give our driver ratings and then Matt gets pissed off when it’s not the same score as them lmao
@premarcobasson2903
@premarcobasson2903 5 ай бұрын
Wait wait, so Magnussen, Hulkenberg and Perez can be rated here, but Verstappen could not be rated in Australia?
@066kshitizvsingh4
@066kshitizvsingh4 5 ай бұрын
Magnussen and Perez should definitely be rated. They messed their own race. Hulkenberg shouldn't have been rated though, he was just a passenger in that crash
@JustWillB
@JustWillB 5 ай бұрын
Given that it's monaco they're basically rating qualifying. So if they take the 5 lights I think they should be rated.
@josimarzevallos385
@josimarzevallos385 5 ай бұрын
Matt and Tommy-“We want to see more overtake attempts in Monaco” KMag tries to race, Also Matt and Tommy- “how dare he go for a move in Monaco, he should know better 😡😡”
@HAbarneyWK
@HAbarneyWK 5 ай бұрын
I think it's more about the regulations. The cars are just too big and dont allow for good races in Monaco.
@JamesBD05
@JamesBD05 5 ай бұрын
There's a difference between 'more overtakes' and 'a move that isn't on'
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 5 ай бұрын
Let's face it he would never pull the overtake there, it's not even a straight and he was way too behind Perez.
@josimarzevallos385
@josimarzevallos385 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@JamesBD05and I would agree with you on any other track, but in Monico that is as close as you’re going to get to a “move that is on” also listen to how they talk about Ocons accident compared to KMags. Gastly couldn’t give any more room and got smacked by Ocon, yet that is understandable if it wasn’t his teammate? Perez saw him and had more room, just think they are going overboard on KMag
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 5 ай бұрын
@@JamesBD05the move was definitely on. Perez had a really bad exit and KMag deserved the space on a STRAIGHT as Perez is required to give him.
@YR13-520
@YR13-520 5 ай бұрын
To be fair to logan, he did do an overtake, and he stayed with the mclarens and Sainz at the end in a 2023 spec sidepod
@pacman1p
@pacman1p 5 ай бұрын
Sainz qualifies 0.25 behind Leclerc, gets bailed out by Red Flag where he should've been last: "Very well done, 8/10" Perez qualifies 0.3 behind Max, gets crashed out in T1: "Terrible qualifying, 2/10" This is really tough to watch recently, I'll be honest
@ehrlichgesagt863
@ehrlichgesagt863 5 ай бұрын
Ye at the End Zhou is half a second away and gets a 4 I mean sorry but that's terrible something a f2 driver could do with 1 practice session as we saw last year or this year
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 5 ай бұрын
Perez is fairly rated but Sainz isn’t. Voting him anywhere close to Russell is a joke
@nitinkhanna4425
@nitinkhanna4425 5 ай бұрын
It wasn't Sainz's fault at all for the incident with Piastri.
@george6397
@george6397 5 ай бұрын
Bro got outqualified by Sargant, 2 is generous for him
@Kermit-The-Smaug
@Kermit-The-Smaug 5 ай бұрын
When kmeg does it:”that is so incredibly stupid.” When albon does it:” how dare Danny ric not give him the space, he was entitled to space.”
@RoBoDaN91
@RoBoDaN91 5 ай бұрын
F1 community essentially turning into Peter Griffin and saying "shut up kmeg!"
@KelsomaticPDX
@KelsomaticPDX 5 ай бұрын
THANK YOU. People are so inconsistent with this stuff. IMO both were risky, legal, but fairly unwise moves that didn’t pan out well. Sometimes that’s racing, and ESPECIALLY SO on lap one. I have no preference or bias whatsoever with Perez and Kmag, don’t care about either of em. The Daniel one’s a different story though 😅
@lucaspedersen8233
@lucaspedersen8233 5 ай бұрын
exactly. Kevin got a penalty in saudi for the doing the exact same thing perez did.
@glassofrubixs6196
@glassofrubixs6196 5 ай бұрын
It's a completely different circumstance you muppet
@soundslave
@soundslave 5 ай бұрын
8 for sainz? He crashed and got a puncture in a messy first lap overtake attempt. He was last or dnf after that, until the kmag reset button.
@lmr4403
@lmr4403 5 ай бұрын
I put Verstappen on 8/10. Not for his qualifying nor for his race, but for the development on the car he creates over the weekend (especially compared to his teammate who ended in Q1 on pace). Poor performing car on the kerbs and difficult car every corner of Monaco does not mean he drove worse than those in their ranking that scored 8/10.
@maxmax9248
@maxmax9248 5 ай бұрын
can't lie with ric he got told not to overtake alonso and got hold in the pits for time in q2
@tomhutchins7495
@tomhutchins7495 5 ай бұрын
Can you imagine how awful this race would have been without Leclerc winning?
@Namonam1
@Namonam1 5 ай бұрын
Nah, Piastri win: yes please
@DineshKumar-iu5pl
@DineshKumar-iu5pl 5 ай бұрын
Oscar hangs his car in the outside brilliantly to keep his position and gets a minor aero issue car to second should be given more credit I guess. That's a champions mentality, and not just keep pushing and end up saying " No No No No No"
@Quiron1985
@Quiron1985 5 ай бұрын
didn't know there would have been a race worse then Spa 2021? (the 2 lap safety car race due to rain)
@Wezo1994
@Wezo1994 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching FP4 for the ratings
@Becky_Cooling
@Becky_Cooling 5 ай бұрын
LOL
@chilli-soup
@chilli-soup 5 ай бұрын
Just for this week i gave Botas an extra point for his moustache but in doing so it was only fair i took a point off Lando.🤷🏻‍♂️
@Warhawk_
@Warhawk_ 5 ай бұрын
Matt deserved every bit of happiness.
@OG-512
@OG-512 5 ай бұрын
The Alonso bias is absolutely insane. Stroll had yet again another amazing weekend, even tho he crashed, he out-qualified Alonso AGAIN.
@ichigobankai3591
@ichigobankai3591 5 ай бұрын
Alonso clearly tried helping Stroll keeping the cars behind him but Stroll clipped the barriers got punctured and finished behind Alonso, Stroll and Alonso was where they belong
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 5 ай бұрын
@@ichigobankai3591still a mediocre race from Alonso. 5 is overrated. Vettel put that 2022 garbage in Q3 and got a point with a shit strategy.
@robertstewart3207
@robertstewart3207 5 ай бұрын
Carlos hit OP and gets an 8. But OP gets 9 when it should be a 10 just because ur lover LC gets 10.
@zenunogoncalv
@zenunogoncalv 5 ай бұрын
Good to see Matt and Tommy fully recovered from that long nap we call the Monaco GP
@williamyawn2325
@williamyawn2325 5 ай бұрын
Would love team ratings. Rate team strat, pit and other decisions Basically Mercedes would get a 4 for doing a decent setup on the car but not communicating with the drivers well.
@dr_n-t
@dr_n-t 5 ай бұрын
It may be because the Monaco GP was the same day as Indy 500 but a potential solution to save the Monaco GP is to scrap the race altogether but make the qualifying more exciting... no doubt it takes skill to drive fast around Monaco, so highlight it. Maybe 1 car on track at a time and an average time over 3 or 4 consecutive laps... no traffic, drivers clipping the barriers with millimetre precision repeatedly (not just one lap), can they keep the tyres at optimal temp for more than 1 lap... maybe even have a "fastest 6" competition the next day like Indy 500 to mitigate some of the "rubbering in" advantages for the top points. The race doesn't show off driver skill (I wouldn't even rate Leclerc 10/10 over the weekend, qualifying yes but the race was just the bear minimum as it was for every other driver)
@tigerpjm
@tigerpjm 5 ай бұрын
So Oscar gets docked a point because he "could have" been on pole, but Lando, driving the same car, gets an 8 for fourth place? Ok then.😅
@jordandahl1032
@jordandahl1032 5 ай бұрын
bro chill on Logan. hes trying with what hes got and that isnt much
@kanan1361
@kanan1361 5 ай бұрын
My blood pressure went high up when Tommy said 9/10 for Leclerc. 😂 19:47
@happynightmareforyou
@happynightmareforyou 5 ай бұрын
Logan had a 2023 spec rear wing. He had no chance compared to Albon. So i think with all that in mind he actually did not do all that bad.
@thesunnynationg
@thesunnynationg 5 ай бұрын
8:19 the meme where they poke him with a stick 😂😂😂😂😂
@ErickMcNerney
@ErickMcNerney 5 ай бұрын
.... Stroll... "one of the few to make a mistake in the race", not realizing that Alonso hit the wall as well.
@katy4523
@katy4523 5 ай бұрын
Albon has done more destruction this year on Williams development and Logan has inherited the problems. A more broken chassis and the 2023 rear wing. How can he show anything when he's been impacted by his teammate's actions? 🤷‍♀️ Not saying he's better than Alex, but being so harsh seems questionable
@aberamagold7509
@aberamagold7509 5 ай бұрын
I'm confused. Matt said _Zhou finished last _*_again_*_ in quali,_ then Tommy says _he's getting a bit sick of Zhou _*_always_*_ finishing last in qualifying._ Later Tommy called Sargeant the _P-20 merchant_ because he *always* finishes 20th in quali. So which one of them -sucks more- is it? They both can't always finish last 😁
@Cuskocuint
@Cuskocuint 5 ай бұрын
I would go 10 for Piastri, what more he could done?
@geevee9728
@geevee9728 5 ай бұрын
If he was British he would have got the usual British bonus point
@andrewrivera3748
@andrewrivera3748 5 ай бұрын
Are we really questioning Kevin “what do you have to gain” WHEN LITERALLY NO ONE MOVED. He had EVERYTHING to gain on the start. Just look at the rest of the race, even those that pitted couldn’t get past people (Max vs Russel). Again, either he passed him or he sat behind him all race. He went for the pass when there was a gap! You cannot argue against him and then make fun of the race for 0 overtakes.
@Viktoronto
@Viktoronto 5 ай бұрын
there wasnt a gap though
@Andrea-vl6mf
@Andrea-vl6mf 5 ай бұрын
i said multiple times...Both Haas were ahead of Perez if it wasn't for the DQ they got after the quali... Perez on the other hand...18 with a Redbull...means total Garbage. To this add the fact that the Sauber overtook him in T1 and here you have a Salty Perez . It wasn't his first time doing moves like this...he did the same to his team mate few years ago, and this time found KMAG who literally gives 0 shit . Could Kmag have avoided the crash? True. but the RULES say that Perez have to give him the space. Perez isnt even following the Racing line if you compare it to the cars ahead of him and kept squeezing him into the wall, if there were no walls he would've forced Kmag out of the track and that would've been a 10 second penalty for PEREZ simple as that. SO everyone blaming Kmag should first learn the sporting code and then get into racing themself...before blaming the only guy who literally tried to race. And Perez beating him anyway? No way mate. Perez was terrible all week and his decision making shows how washed he is.... in Imola he was going off track by himself, in Miami he almost killed his Team mate....but they keep saying he was the good one here....
@josephceschini5023
@josephceschini5023 5 ай бұрын
@@Viktoronto But there kind of was, wasn't there? It was optimistic as all hell but there was a car-sized gap. I don't understand why Perez even left the door open tbh; why didn't he just drift half a car's width to the right and throw a defensive shape? I'm not saying it's Perez's fault either, but he did leave a gap when he didn't have to.
@snowman22ism
@snowman22ism 5 ай бұрын
​@@Andrea-vl6mfI love these backseat racers who didn't take into account former F1 drivers saying that kmag should never have put his car there.
@Luke13373
@Luke13373 5 ай бұрын
@@Andrea-vl6mf How was he not on the racing line, go look mr.Blind. I bet you didn't even watch the incident, this was as bad as a driver going onto the fucking grass for an overtake and then blaming the guy he did not leave space because you crashed
@adysun
@adysun 5 ай бұрын
Missed opportunity for Max to get all 6's through driver ratings too
@Gavin_1990
@Gavin_1990 5 ай бұрын
Was waiting for this video since Monday
@Real28
@Real28 5 ай бұрын
If Logan had been on a different set of tires, he had a chance to be A LOT higher up the order. And by a lot, I mean 1 spot. Charles got Oscar on the final corner for Q. I've seen a few great animations showing thats where he lost it according to the mini-splits.
@kabirmaheshwari1373
@kabirmaheshwari1373 5 ай бұрын
Just a question - Logan Bottas Daniel each get a 5?? He at least got into Q2 and finished P12
@sudazima
@sudazima 5 ай бұрын
lets remove the race, fp4 on saturday and on sunday we get a special quali: double time length Q1 and Q2 Q3 everyone gets 5 pushlaps, no one else on track. points as normal
@marcuslobo5765
@marcuslobo5765 5 ай бұрын
Considering the changes brought on by Fred Vasseur i motion for Ferrari to be renamed Fredarri
@truthteller8730
@truthteller8730 5 ай бұрын
in defense of of logan its unfair to compare him to albon when he has exactly zero of the upgrades and albon is getting more next week in canada while sargeant has to wait until atleast spain for some of the upgrades.
@kimberley3754
@kimberley3754 5 ай бұрын
albons damaged chassis, 2023 rearwing; bro is getting downgrades!
@Aru_TK
@Aru_TK 5 ай бұрын
did you see the footage of ocon trying the same move k-mag did uphill? they were lucky to not end in the wall there like checo. The funny part is that even if Ocon made the overtake stick, it would be for nothing since they restarted the race.
@darrenstango9376
@darrenstango9376 5 ай бұрын
It's crazy noone is talking about carlos sainz was spotted in the Williams hospitality talking to james vowles
@an-albumhole4400
@an-albumhole4400 5 ай бұрын
I was in a traffic jam to get to work and beat my colleagues to work (funnily enough my team mate was two car's behind me too & we both have red cars... spooky).... I did it by having a faster / earlier starting time.... 10/10 for me!! (I was also in my home town, I cried and yelled "YESSSS!" when the jam ended.... I didn't spray any Champaign... I had a coffee & a hobnob 😅🏎🏆 )
@Thu1111
@Thu1111 5 ай бұрын
This race made Spa 2021 look good
@rachelwhitley3671
@rachelwhitley3671 5 ай бұрын
Ooh loved the spicy debate about Sargeant!
@ninety_ldn
@ninety_ldn 5 ай бұрын
Think Sainz should have got a 9, he was an unbelievable team mate for Leclerc that race. Constantly gave feedback to the team regarding strategies to keep Charles in front and spotting potential threats.
@Persoc
@Persoc 5 ай бұрын
yes he made sure that we heard him clearly but leclerc did the same except that it doesn't go on TV the subsequent strategies a lot of the wall has to stop at some point
@caseyregan5188
@caseyregan5188 5 ай бұрын
He also contacted another driver resulting in a puncture that in any other circumstance would have ruined his race. Gotta include that in the grade even though his result doesn’t reflect it.
@roxannelyson7715
@roxannelyson7715 5 ай бұрын
Did Matt and Tommy actually watch the race? Merc told George to slow down multiple times. He was getting annoyed by it.
@Itreallydoesnotmatter-p9o
@Itreallydoesnotmatter-p9o 5 ай бұрын
JUST FYI, V-CARB is internally and now also officially been called racing bulls, the company is Racing Bulls S.p.A
@hergi-tp9ve
@hergi-tp9ve 5 ай бұрын
Driver ratings are your best weejios
@alastairhatt360
@alastairhatt360 5 ай бұрын
I watched Jolion Palmers. I’d and he explained the crash and why Kevin did what he did as that part of the track is classed as a straight and Perez did see him coming so should have given him more room. Perez would have had the inside run to the next corner anyway so would have been in front. I personally think Perez is under so much pressure to keep his seat that he does not want to be seen as losing to a HAAS as this makes him look unworthy of his Redbull seat.
@mol-o2766
@mol-o2766 5 ай бұрын
This is the first episode where I am not dissapointed because of the "we rate seperatly but the same". There is nothing to disscuss. All that good racing that K-Mag chaos did in previous rounds had to be paid back to the fortunes back in Monaco. Thanks Kev! Also arent you fed up with Zhou? He is P20 merchant with a huuuge gap to the next driver. Laugh all you want about Goatifi, Sargeant, Sirotkin but this year Zhou is putting P20 merchant to another level. His qualifying is abismal
@leedodge4227
@leedodge4227 5 ай бұрын
you can base the Monaco driver ratings on amount of overtakes to make grading easier.
@drawyourbook876
@drawyourbook876 5 ай бұрын
I would have loved it if you also would give a rating to the FIA… considering the 10s penalty to ocon and the magnussen racing incident I am sure that would have been the most juicy rating of all 😂
@robb5270
@robb5270 5 ай бұрын
Nico should be a solid 7. Haas should be a 0 for having car illegal. Magnueson should be 0 for taking out himself and teammate…but all Nico did was qualify solidly and make a great move on lap one past Perez….then crashed completely out of his control….so why is that a 5? He wasn’t average. He did nothing wrong. Everything he has control of he did above average. Did it well. Should be a 7 at minimum 6. I’ll say it again For what he had control over he did well.
@damage97
@damage97 5 ай бұрын
I almost think that Merc are not so much a shadow of their former self, but just revealing issues that were always there on the operational side. I am pretty sure that Toto even straight up said during the 2010s that they don't bother training pit stops because the car is fast enough that they don't need to, which bit them in the ass at I want to say COTA last year? The car's lack of pace is simply revealing a lack of strategy, pitstops, communication etc. that I think was always there quietly in the background.
@martinfindeisen5800
@martinfindeisen5800 5 ай бұрын
Have you any plans to Upload your Videos in a Higher Resolution? FullHD in a modern TV dont look good. But good content.
@KJ28554
@KJ28554 5 ай бұрын
“It’s the hope that kills you” Tommy explaining this to Matt in Abu Dhabi
@GamerBugsTwitch
@GamerBugsTwitch 5 ай бұрын
Piastri deserved a 10 otherwise you can never give a driver a 10 if he doesn't win. And if you're giving Kmag a 0. Who qualified around where his team mate did but overtook some before the crash you seem to attribute 80% fault to, surely Perez deserves a 0 for that bad qualifying, far behind team mate, bad start and 20% part blame of that crash.
@Andrea-vl6mf
@Andrea-vl6mf 5 ай бұрын
Pretty sure that if PEREZ had hit Max in MIAMI all of you would give the Penalty to Perez instead of KMAG. But since KMAG has been an aggressive driver this season , yall are giving him the fault, when the dude was just racing and did not do anything wrong in that occasion other than expecting PEREZ to give him the space as he was entitled to it based on the sporting regulation. In any other Track Perez move would've forced Kmag out of track and that would have been a 10 sec penalty for Perez, but here we had a wall and the results were different. And still Do not forget that both Haas were faster than Perez in quali and he would've probably ended 18 anyway. But again you are the same one who were "enjoying" Kmag aggressivness towards Hamilton in Miami . Or when he was slowing down the field to give Hulkenberg the 10th place...
@timquerengesser1561
@timquerengesser1561 5 ай бұрын
Post Monaco 2024 reaction has revealed my place in F1. It isn't in the old guard elite, who are still telling fans they're wrong to criticize Monaco. It's okay to ask a race not see the order the same as it started for the top 10. We're still fans. Without us, the elite evaporates, too.
@jamesturner6949
@jamesturner6949 5 ай бұрын
@1:25 DANG... THAT PROLLY HURT!
@jerrychenwu
@jerrychenwu 5 ай бұрын
I not a K-mag or Checo fan, but looking at the onboard several times of both drivers, I can't see K-mag is at fault. He was going for a gap in apex nor was he dive bombing. And if you look at Checo's onboard, he has plenty of space on his left side (If you watch Hulk's onboard, he is behind checo, not even his front wing is alongside checo).
@rison7339
@rison7339 5 ай бұрын
Max getting a 7 when he binned it in quali and finished 5 places lower than he's supposed to finished and Zhou gets a 4 when he finishes where he's supposed to finish. Very strange.
@deathtozemotherland
@deathtozemotherland 5 ай бұрын
Really feel the consensus of Logan=bad is undeserved this year, man's got a heavier chassis and parts from last year grafted together and is being expected to do just as well as alex with most of the reason for the parts issues being caused by Alex... Untill there In equal machinery it's basically a useless debate
@petermols
@petermols 5 ай бұрын
Giving points for a race that wasn't a race keeps you questioning.......
@keio5274
@keio5274 5 ай бұрын
I really don't get why kmag is getting the majority of the turn 1 blame. It's like saying nobody is allowed to go for a move out of turn 1 at monaco, regardless of the lap
@xRaptorScreamx
@xRaptorScreamx 5 ай бұрын
Wasnt Hulkenberg left of Perez when the crash happened, and becasue of that limited movement from Perez?
@jacobsuarez8644
@jacobsuarez8644 5 ай бұрын
In Logan’s defense he was a 2023 rearwing😂😂😂😂 I’m not even joking
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 5 ай бұрын
Tom could change his name to Thom and do a show with Thim from the Hinch and Rossi show😅
@PremiumBiasYT
@PremiumBiasYT 5 ай бұрын
Bottas and Zhou have consistently finished behind logan.
@Louis-Souness
@Louis-Souness 5 ай бұрын
Imagine getting an 8 for finising on the podium and making sure Norris couldn't get a pitstop, surely a 9 fot Carlos and a 10 for Piastri.
@willhighfield6773
@willhighfield6773 5 ай бұрын
What confuses me with Mercedes is yes, you can make the argument as a 7 time WDC he should know the outlap is critical. But if you're sat on the Merc pit wall watching his slow lap times, surely you come on the radio and tell him to push?
@khalidmartie5854
@khalidmartie5854 5 ай бұрын
Lewis: "should i push or bring the tires in slowly?" Bono: "Outlap normal" I still cant figure out for the life of me why he told him not to push
@rene7975
@rene7975 5 ай бұрын
To make it maybe a bit more exiting then Matt 8, Tommy 8, voters 8 as well next, also give a rating to the over all quali and race!
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