Beware of Problems Changing Front Tire on Honda Goldwing - Max McAllister & Traxxion Dynamics

[@bobbyfowler1734]

Also, the valve stem points to the left side on a Goldwing. This assists me in know the rotation of the wheel.

[@Traxxion]

That's a good cue.

[@probono1330]

Oh my fck.... Worked on dozens of bikes that I've owned, and never knew about those casting marks on the Wing. Thanks

[@Traxxion]

You bet!

[@galactichazzard8932]

Awesome video and great attitude Max. Although I do not have ABS on my 2008 Goldwing I was completely unaware of the arrows on the rim & rotors so thank you for making this video and preventing us from making a very human mistake as I like to do most of the simple stuff myself. And as another commenter replied, I really appreciate you setting that straight in the beginning of the video for all the "perfect" people out there. Cheers

[@vernebrown4441]

I have had a Honda Dealership's shops put on my tire wrong, so check when you get/pick up your bike.

[@flashgordon6238]

Another thing is visible at 5:16, the yellow dot on the sidewall is supposed to line up with the tire valve stem according to to service manual.

[@Traxxion]

That's called a "Balance Mark" and indicates that the heaviest part of that tire is 180 degrees away from it. Yellow is only on some brands of tires. Some have blue, some have red, etc.

[@johnmoore2423]

Great video Max. About to remove the wheel from my 97 Goldwing Trike. It's true...we all make mistakes. A good reminder to check the work and not assume. I wish I had back in '17 when my tire that was put on backwards, failed during a cross country trip costing me about a grand. Thanks again for the mystery solved vid!

[@Traxxion]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Peco91]

It was a great experiences for me. Sense i drive Big Bikes i change my Tires by my self, never happens this mistake. Honda give me now this shame. And is really hard to get Honda Support in the Philippines. Thanks Max to inform the Bikers about this Issue. Great Video.

[@Traxxion]

Your small mistake will help many people, thanks for telling me about this problem!

[@wadeblake3451]

Humility is a very attractive characteristic. Important to remember shit happens. I try and do simple maintenance like oil changes, removing wheels, etc. in an attempt to minimize errant mishaps and it is part of owning a motorcycle I enjoy. Videos like this help considerably. Looking forward to meeting you in a few months when the border opens up for a suspension upgrade. 😊

[@Traxxion]

See you then!

[@inventions2k]

I had the same problem but a little different. I was just finishing up a Honda Condor trike build and went for the first ride. On my way bike lights just started to flash, the Honda DCT haywire and trike could not switch off. Turns out the rear abs sensor did not had the correct gap to the sensor disk. All fixed now and much relieved.

[@Traxxion]

Not an easy problem to find.

[@tealtazmanian966]

Dude, I like your comment about don't make any slur comments about the mechanic. I went to Honda School of Portland and got my Full Tech Cert in 1985 and can't say how embarrassing it is to find I accidentally mounted a tire wrong...not just once either. (Never mounted them without catching it AS I REINSTALLED so no foul but suffice it to say, like you said, it does happen.) All it takes is a distraction from another mechanic needing help with his problem...I don't care who you are....Every Mechanic has done this at least once. Anyone that says they haven't is either forgetful or fibbing...just kidding. I never imagined the multiple and random electrical issues he described but after you explaining about the speed sensor was to blame it makes sense...well, kinda-sorta...who would have thought? Learned something new so thanks for the TIP. Thanks,

[@Traxxion]

Thanks!

[@michaelhoare5291]

It's great to read all the self deprocating comments. In one camp there's those that have made the same mistake and in the other those that don't trust themselves not to make the same mistake and mark their wheels or immediately replace the axle and spacers. What a brilliant brotherhood.

[@Traxxion]

I agree! Helping others learn from your mistakes is a great thing to do.

[@paulkaufman4901]

I love your attitude! I'm a very particular mechanic but, I still make mistakes. I really appreciate you setting that straight in the beginning of the video for all the "perfect" people. By the way, I have and love your rear springs on my gl1800.

[@chriscaliente5033]

Max you asked all the guys what cause the electrical haywire issues with the customer tire change, I knew the answer before you asked the question Lol, but very good video, very informative, very educational.

[@wadeblake3451]

Yah, but it is hard to take advice from someone who believes car tires belong on bikes.

[@DA-ou7hv]

This is really good to know. Before I take my wheel to the dealer I will mark the wheel right and left for the dealer just to be sure. Some pics before disassembly too.

[@soujrnr]

This is great information to know; especially for guys like me who just bought his first Wing! People don't know what they don't know. Thanks, Max!!

[@Traxxion]

Glad it was helpful!

[@timbarnett3898]

I was amazed at the number of malfunctions, but sounds like everything tied together in Japanese style! I'm doing me"shake down" rides on my, new to me, 88' Goldwing. Previous owned put floorboards & front/rear shifters. As big as bike is, I'm getting use too not a lot of boot toe space under 6 cylinder motor heads! Next test ride found GW wider tires makes better control on my dirty/gravel/mud crappy county road than my Dyna H-D! I as also found backrest needs tightened not to come forward hitting me in back! Next 50 miles was just utter enjoyment on the technical engineering of this 33 year old motorcycle! Amazing comes to mind!

[@Traxxion]

They have improved over time!

[@timbarnett3898]

They have improved over time is what make Honda so amazing! On personal note; I received phone call from Mr. Honda in Japan! Oh yeah, who is this really? He wanted to know if he could use my CB750 to build 100cc over piston system! So I gave him my bike, got it back months later unrecognizable, 4into1. hand made exhaust, new paint! I took bike on short trip around oregon, unhappy with engine pinging! Contacted me. Honda which took bike back an went from 12:1 to 10:1. I loved that bike taking it around America. Then reported performance back to Mr. Honda!

[@Traxxion]

@@timbarnett3898 Cool story!

[@johnkettles548]

Another thing to look out for are the spacers. There's a slight difference in the width of the spacer. If you mix them up you will bend the trigger wheel for the ABS.

[@Traxxion]

That's a good point to bring up!

[@johnkettles548]

@Traxxion A neighbor of mine mixed up the spaces on his Goldwing, and told me. I kept his experience in the back of my mind when I replace my front tire. It could have happened to anyone, so I'd never knock on a follow tech. Just when you think you know everything strange things can happen.

[@petertspock]

I always use a marker pen and write a R on the right side rotor so I can see easier. Like you said anyone can make a mistake. Really enjoy and learn from your videos.

[@Traxxion]

Great tip!

[@leegraves101]

I put an arrow on one rotor pointing forward

[@jamieweirdworld]

I almost did that on my old Concours14 some years back, but if I remember correctly, that wheel didn't seem to be lining up properly. After walking away for a few minutes, I thought to check which side I had the ABS tone wheel going on. LOL. Whoops.

[@Doc832]

Now that is not something I would have expected however I have been careful with that since I had a tire put on backwards once before. It was on a 1999 Valkyrie. it did not have all the bells and whistles that we have today. Thanks again Max always appreciate you

[@BrandonWest87]

My dude, I’m subscribed for your attitude alone. Honest mistakes happen and it takes a big man to chalk this stuff up to “such is life 🤷‍♂️”. Thanks for the great info!

[@Traxxion]

Just know, I never make mistakes... I'm just pointing out the possibility that mere mortals can!

[@hphillips7425]

Good video. I appreciate you passing the information along. Hopefully it will cause people to slow down and evaluate every job a little closer

[@Traxxion]

I hope so too!

[@axelzanelli6475]

Excellent video! Thanks, who would have thought a simple mistake could have created such a problem!

[@vics-videos]

Brilliant! Thank you, Max!!

[@MotoMengy]

Man, that's crazy but really good info to know as a Goldwing owner!

[@Traxxion]

No doubt!

[@Varmintttt]

I probably got lucky. I have a 2005 Goldwing (non-ABS), and I just changed the tire. All I did was take the wheel off the bike, and take it and the new tire to my favorite shop, and they did all the technical stuff. The only SNAFU I encountered was a cracked pinch bolt, which came out okay but snapped off as I was torquing it to spec. I noticed it was tightened too far as I loosened it, and the wrench didn't even click before the bolt snapped, so I'm blaming a previous owner for this one. Should be an easy fix. (Now I'm looking for wood to knock on...)

[@Traxxion]

That is good luck... best to have a problem in the shop and not on the road!

[@Traxxion]

PS, I never implicitly trust a torque wrench... it's only as good as the hands using it, and the person who set the torque... sometimes people use the wrong scale or touch the wrong scale on a digital wrench. If it feels tight and the wrench says to keep going, you should always stop and double check.

[@JackTRyan]

Thanks for the heads-up. I’d probably have gotten caught out by that sort of stuff, never having changed my front wheel on the GL (yet).

[@Traxxion]

Glad to help!

[@Lenrage]

Great tip Max…..i have remove my whells to get them powder coated……this will help me a lot when putting them back on the back

[@Traxxion]

Glad to help!

[@thedood4713]

Thanks for the video always helpful to learn something new.

[@Traxxion]

You bet!

[@tjernagel]

You should have mounted it wrong. I’m curious to see how crazy the electronics get. :-). Great info!

[@michaelandersson1748]

There is a lot of Honda dealer in the Philippines but the Gold Wing are in categorie big bike and are not availible in the small provinces, ex Mindoro dont have any larger bikes then 250 cc

[@Traxxion]

That's too bad! We have several customers in the Phillipines!

[@fgc-ol4jn]

Great video. Just one add on. On one side of the tire, there is a yellow dot. That is the lightest part of the wire, and it should be aligned with the valve stem. during wheel assembly.

[@Traxxion]

"How to mount a tire on a motorcycle" is another video... hahaha! I think they probably have that well covered on KZbin. (Also for reference, the "Dot" can be many colors or shapes depending on tire brand).

[@josephbolz4550]

And it was the sensor pickup wheel. (Slightly bent). Took the dealer two months to figure it out. Honda was pretty dumb too.

[@phillipvazquez284]

Excellent video love it ty so much max. Very educational. I didn't know this about my bike . I'm very happy you made this video saves tons of time on problems. Ty again max.

[@Traxxion]

Happy to help!

[@phillipvazquez284]

Really appreciate it. I learn a few things with you.

[@dispatchy]

You might want to mention that the brake pads are also directional, there are very small arrows on a tab on each pad. If you look at the back side of the pad you can easily see the pads are built for a specific direction.

[@Traxxion]

Hi Greg! The brake pads aren't directional... it's the heat shields that are directional. The brake pads are the same part, and are symmetrical up or down.

[@dispatchy]

@@Traxxion can you explain what the arrow is used for and the “heat shield” is shaped differently on each end and the different shape suggests that it might make a difference to the orientation when installed. Just asking

[@Traxxion]

@@dispatchy I'll maybe do a video on that soon!

[@freedomr5129]

There is a lot of Honda dealership in the Philippines. In fact, a lot more than US.

[@TheMachRider]

There are roughly 1,000 Honda dealers in the US. The Philippines has 38 dealers.

[@moose3971]

Interesting. I can see how this could happen. By the way, thanks for the seat screws and key cover pull tab. When the snow clears I can get the bike back in my shop for installation.

[@Traxxion]

We almost died from 25 degrees F the other day...

[@divechart4269]

Always put the spacers back on the axle as you set the wheel aside to work on the bike. If you can remember their proper orientation five minutes later you are a wiser man than me.

[@jmitch6764]

Take a picture during disassembly. keep it handy on the computer. I had to go back to an online microfiche to check the exploded assembly....twice....before I smartened up

[@jamespolucha6911]

Harley-Davidson has a left and right stamped on the rotors but Harley-Davidson said put them on the wrong side if your getting a brake noise

[@Traxxion]

HAHA!

[@JDuBz815]

Pro tip, Mark the rotors with a sharpie for the direction of proper rotation before removing the wheel, you'll get an easy indicator for tire mounting or reinstalling etc.

[@Traxxion]

Both the wheel and the rotors are already marked with directional arrows.

[@JDuBz815]

@@Traxxion correct. Those marks are often smaller and not as easy to see, especially if the wheel or rotor edges are dirty. A sharpie mark on the contact surface of the rotor is quick and easy. Using the ABS tone ring (if equipped) is also a good indicator.

[@mrsmel269]

great info Max !!!! one more trick is to just put the axle back on the forks and the spacers the way you took them out till your finished we use a coats RC 100. be safe and God Bless #livetoride

[@Traxxion]

Good tip!

[@gunny2shoes102]

going to look at all my arrows right now, thank you, busting my own tires and eating humble pie.

[@Traxxion]

All good!

[@johngeiler4917]

Hi Max. I've watched several of your videos since I purchased my 2021 Godlwing from Shawnee Powersports in OK. You're information is very helpful, especially when you start cutting off crap that isn't needed that makes removing and remounting certain parts easier. I've experienced an intermittent problem with my bike that I can't seem to find a video for. I have less than 3K on the bike so far but occasionally when I'm coming into a sharp turn and I'm preparing to downshift to use the engine brake the engine will die when I pull in the clutch; downshift; and hold the clutch for a few seconds in preparation for entering the turn. I don't realize it's happened until I let out the clutch and the momentum of the bike "pop-starts" the engine again. Have you heard of this before? Please say yes! Thanks for your help in advance and for you being you.

[@Traxxion]

I wish I could say Yes!, but I can't... I haven't heard of this problem before. I would consider it to be a pretty serious problem, and would want Honda digging into that under warranty. PS, the term you are looking for is "bump start". :)

[@alp3781]

Hey Max, can you show us best way to take the rear wheel off with basic tools anybody has in the garage? Some drop the bikes on its side, some do all crazy things. I am not sure best way to even re-torque the 5 bolts to 80flbs.

[@Traxxion]

That's a pretty good idea for a video. I'll add that to the list. But in the meantime, you can use something to wedge the rear brake or have your wife step on it while you remove and install the lug nuts. I'm not laying my motorcycle on its side. That's caveman crap.

[@alp3781]

@@Traxxion Thank you, boss. Can the parking brake lock it against the 80 f/lbs, or the foot brake will do it for sure? I was also thinking on wedging a pc of wood against the tire and the floor after hand tight the 5 bolts.

[@Traxxion]

@@alp3781 you can jack the front of the engine up so it presses the tire on the ground and apply the brake. That should be plenty.

[@alp3781]

@@Traxxion Great idea, man. Thank you so much.

[@alp3781]

Hi Max, as you can see, I follow all of your videos....LOL. I am going to take the front wheel out and its first time for me. In regards to the front axle, once the pinch bolts are out and axle nut is out, wheel is supported, does the axle slides out easily? Do I need like a nylon round rod or wood to push it from left to right?

[@Peco91]

A other Tip: On the Movie you see a yellow Point on the Tire.... should be exact on the place of the Air Valve, right??

[@Traxxion]

Close is OK, it doesn't have to be perfect. It is the lightest point in the tire, the heaviest part is 180 degrees away.

[@FranklinBurns42]

Cool sock cap!

[@Traxxion]

Thanks!

[@davem5333]

When I change my tires I remove the rotors from the front to prevent damage. If there is a difference between the left and right front rotors, I don't see it. On the ABS bikes the right rotor is tapped for the pulser ring. All the holes are in the same place. The directional arrows are there. No other difference I can see.

[@Traxxion]

You don't even have to look hard to see the difference between left and right rotors. The cooling hole pattern on the braking surface is directional.

[@umpquahoward]

As my rule of thumb , I always face the right side of rim face up on tire machine and then the tire rotation will always be clockwise.

[@Traxxion]

You still gotta check both parts... :)

[@johnfarthing6174]

I’ve done the exact thing. What happens When you reversed the front wheel you incidentally end up bending the front wheel pulser and that controls cruise control and a lot of other things. Part number 44515-MKC-A00. Ask me how I know…Also, Once it’s bent, there’s no straightening it out by hand.

[@Traxxion]

Thanks for that tip John!!!

[@johnfarthing6174]

@@Traxxion absolutely! A mistake I won’t do again lol

[@dukie1616]

Thank you, excellent tips.

[@Traxxion]

Glad it was helpful! Check out the "Super Thanks" button on KZbin!

[@VMX1.]

Great vid Max....thank you .

[@Traxxion]

My pleasure!

[@markcraig3702]

Great video Max

[@jmitch6764]

An easy mistake to make. and if you don't have ABS, you might not notice at all. 2010 stock Goldwing rims have a clearer mark on the rim, and the spokes are angled, so it is easier to see. That said, there was one occasion I did push one bead on, and then double-checked, only to find I did it wrong, even when I thought I was paying attention.

[@ROT2024]

I am surprised the bike shifted as the DCT relies on the ABS to coordinate the shift points. Perhaps this was not a DCT?

[@Traxxion]

I thought it was a DCT, I will ask the owner.

[@motorradmike]

Brilliant!

[@Traxxion]

Thanks!

[@phillipwilson-rz7vp]

I just took off my front tire off my goldwing and almost did the same thing. But I saw the sensor and turned it around.

[@Traxxion]

Good catch!

[@alp3781]

Thank you x 3. Learned a bit more about her.

[@whitespeed100]

Hi max ...does any company make rotor for 2018 + goldwing ...700$ for OEM rotor that no sens ...thanks for answer if you have one !!

[@Traxxion]

I don't know of one... I agree, that price is absolutely ridiculous.

[@matt51402]

Max,Do the Honda dealers remove the rotors,if you would know?

[@Traxxion]

No, they don't. But they aren't transporting the wheel anywhere. They just go from the work lift to the tire machine, so there is less chance of damaging a rotor.

[@brianhudson7058]

Thanx Max we live and learn

[@jean-noelcouture5276]

Good info Max. Thank you!

[@billwilliams9527]

Thanks Max, this is a good one!

[@Traxxion]

Glad you like it!

[@kennethclower3416]

great tips and educational

[@Traxxion]

Glad it was helpful!

[@marklatham8601]

Helpful tips!😊

[@Traxxion]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mrdonsmith]

Excellent. Just excellent.

[@mps9608]

Thanks Max.

[@stanyuhas2060]

Great tip!!

[@kevinfleury7739]

Hi Max. Great videos. Not sure if this is the right place to ask the question but I have a 2021 Tour DCT , don't ride too aggressively and have 5,500 miles, mostly curvy backroads. I have Dunlop Sportmax OEM's and was informed at my annual inspection that I have cupping on the front tire. Are there better tires that you would recommend?

[@Traxxion]

Those tires are fine. Your tires cup for one single reason only: Inadequate damping in the shock absorbers. It is how Honda has built every Goldwing ever made. We sell upgraded shocks that eliminate that, while also improving your comfort, confidence, and control.

[@kevinfleury7739]

@@Traxxion Thanks Max. If I buy tour shocks can my local Honda dealer install them? Should I also upgrade the back shock?

[@Traxxion]

@@kevinfleury7739 It is possible, but I don't know the quality of the mechanics at your local shop. It's worth a ride to one of our Independent Installers to be sure it's done by someone with experience.

[@seatime674]

​@@TraxxionI thought the '18 and up Goldwing was completely redesigned with a new front end that eliminated standard shock absorbers. You mean cupping still happens with the '18s and up??

[@Traxxion]

@@seatime674 The new front end replaced telescopic forks. It did not replace Honda's idiotic philosophy on how suspension damping should work. The 2018-2027 will be a crappy as the 1975 models.

[@byronlentz4825]

Thanks buddy!

[@Traxxion]

You bet!

[@chapterk-2586]

Great info like always!

[@jerrypeal653]

Good information!

[@Traxxion]

Glad it was helpful!

[@gilbrunet3253]

Thank you so much. This is really good info.

[@truckerpaulandbacardi]

Good video. Thanks for the info.

[@Traxxion]

Glad it was helpful!

[@TwoWingTouring]

That's great to know!!

[@pauldevault9630]

Thank you

[@foozvideo7816]

Great video. Thank you

[@Traxxion]

Glad you liked it!

[@jamesnusky6257]

Great information. Ty

[@Traxxion]

Glad it was helpful!

[@paulmccoy1789]

God bless you Max. Such insightful information will keep me "astride my bike." Hahahaha.

[@Traxxion]

Happy to help!

[@fredjohnson688]

Oh wow thank you sir good information sir

[@Traxxion]

Most welcome!

[@kevinfleury7739]

Hi Max. Do you have a tire that you recommend for a 2021 Goldwing Tour DCT?

[@Traxxion]

The best results I have seen are with the Dunlop E4s. They get insane mileage with our shocks on the bike.

[@kevinfleury7739]

@@Traxxion Thanks Max

[@johnroberts3515]

I've got an 08 Wing everyone and completely unsatisfied with the audio even with the so called amp that the guy says he put on it to make it louder (?) which in my book I don't know if it did or not and I don't even know if he added it or not but anyway,, any suggestions for improvement? Looking into shops around my area cuz I doubt I could tackle it for more than 1 reason. :) Tanks for any help in advance. Max,, I'm in need of 2 tires for my 08 Wing,, any recommendations and do you sell and ship?

[@Traxxion]

I would check out Wingstuff for tires, or your local shop might be willing to match prices. For custom stereos, I don't have any recommendations, but there is a shop I've heard of in Atlanta doing some custom big front wheel Wings that does stereos too.

[@josephbolz4550]

I made the assumption I was already an idiot whenI took my front wheel off. Marked everything with a magic marker😀

[@Traxxion]

Nothing wrong with that!

[@stevemoore6812]

Going in the book. Thanks for the information. 🚗.mini

[@Traxxion]

Great! Please Share!

[@pauldevault9630]

Will that happen on non APS bikes?

[@Traxxion]

Not that I know of.

[@Dundertaker1]

Everyone who says "Well DUH!!!!" A: probably has never changed their own tires....and B: if they have, they've R&R'd a tire for putting it on backward at least once! :) It is SO EASY to do, that said, it interesting Honda doesn't make its wheels so they can't be mounted backward? Interesting info and a great video as always Max.

[@Traxxion]

Thanks Dan!

[@wesclev1]

great info

[@Traxxion]

Thanks for watching!

[@alainlopez5490]

Thanks Max. Good reminder!

[@Bluecollarservice247]

Thanks man

[@Traxxion]

You're welcome!

[@hippielewis4768]

Not easy to find a Honda dealer-I have a 2016 Honda gold wing champion trike. I can’t find no one within 200 miles to work on it. Went to hill dealer in Princeton W. Va. Told him of a problem he right off the bat called me a liar and a fat man.

[@Traxxion]

Wow...

[@laryangel4082]

Wow

[@highsnburgers4862]

Trump sticker on the cork board. 🤩

[@Traxxion]

You'd be surprised how many people whine and bitch about it...

[@highsnburgers4862]

@@Traxxion The strident TDS crowd all watches too much TV. Brainwashing and mind-control is what the almighty boob tube is designed for. Speaking of control, would I notice a difference betw ak-20 and the Axxion piston kit on an sport-oriented 08 FJR1300 that sees track days? Great info in your videos. Thanks Max!

[@Traxxion]

@@highsnburgers4862 I would say yes... for track days, you should buy the best suspension you can afford, it's safety in the bank.

[@jurgenniklaus4046]

Hi Max! I just like to remember you, if you could make a video about alarm systems. I can't image, that there is nobody out there, who is thinking about a alarm system for his f..ing expensive bike. I heard, Honda offers a system, but i don't know anything about it.........

[@Traxxion]

Hi Jurgen! I don't think I have ever heard of a Goldwing being stolen. It takes a team of men and equipment to steal a 1000 lb bike! If we ever do an alarm installation here, I will definitely make a video of that!

[@cyclechris6591]

Monimoto. A battery powered gps tracker with motion detection. It calls your phone if it moves. Uses a fob you keep in your jacket to disengage. Not too pricey either. Works great!

[@wallaceeverett3927]

Way to much crap on all vehicles today! Thats why I own an 1986 Goldwing; so much simpler!

[@Traxxion]

They still make horses too. :)

[@bigk7788]

If you mount a tire backwards you are an idiot.... guess I'm an idiot then. Had the damn wheel and tire mounted back on the bike before I noticed it. I knew better but just got in a hurry and messed up.

[@Traxxion]

If you mount enough tires, it will happen eventually, even if you know better!

[@dockingtroll6801]

You are clearly more than 17 years old, so whats with the beanie..???

[@Traxxion]

It's Glock Firearms winter hat. They don't sell pistols to 17 year old kids, so whatever you perception is of a winter hat being worn in the winter, is just a high level of ignorance.

[@dockingtroll6801]

@@Traxxion You are indoors mate... have a look in the mirror and you will see the desperate wannabee...

[@arturzeus1864]

THANKS MAX

[@Traxxion]

You got it!

[@stevespilker7640]

Thx. Great info.

[@Traxxion]

You bet!

[@juanmarinez6162]

Thank you

[@Traxxion]

You're welcome! Please Share!

[@michael3080]

great tips

[@Traxxion]

Glad you like them!