The Most Profound Moment in Gaming History... 3 Years Later

It's been three years since I released my video titled "The Most Profound Moment in Gaming History". These are just my reflections on that video... what it did for me, my channel and my community. Do I still think it's the most profound moment? Did I ever find a game that I think has a more profound moment, or is more profound overall? Listen on.
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[@mylesobrien7477]

Man I hate when the unenlightened masses cannot make the judgment call and give up their free will forever and then their voices won't be heard at all. In all seriousness I really appreciate this video I've felt alot of the same things you did but I don't think I've come to quite as much a revelation or coming too of myself compared to you. While people tend to roll their eyes or scoff at conversations like this seeing it as pretentious or ridiculous I still think these are conversations worth having. So thank you.

[@attchi50]

I'm not sure if this comment was being sarcastic or not and that your first sentence implies (or doesn't) sarcasticly how you disagree with Max's opinion, for my perception of this video, especially the ending with how Max said: "To prove the patriots wrong." indicates how he does not agree with the patriots. I guess I'm curious what you meant with your first sentence?

[@liquidrufus]

@@attchi50 It's the lyrics of collective consciousness from Metal Gear Rising.

[@achaastheoneaboveall2732]

@@attchi50 I'm not the Op here but I think I can provide you with an answer. The first sentence of their comment, seems to be a reference to a song in Metal Gear Rising Revengeance soundtrack :"Collective Consciousness". The song's first lyrics are : "The Unenlightened masses. They could not make the judgement call. Give up free will forever. Their voices won't be heard at all." So in this context, it was either just a silly reference for fun. Or a way to use the song's lyrics to criticize the ignorant masses that Max mentions in the video. Your guess is as good as mine here.

[@attchi50]

@@achaastheoneaboveall2732 well damn thats a woosh on my part lmao.

[@achaastheoneaboveall2732]

@@attchi50 Lol don't worry. Everyone who has been on the internet long enough have been whooshed at some point anyway. As my grandma used to say : "Here, You either to get whooshed or you live long enough to become the one who wooshes." Take care !

[@mangaas]

That games story and ending is becoming more and more our EXACT reality as time goes on, it may not be the MOST "profound" moment, its up there with Deus Ex. But it predicted the future so well, its scary.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

So we will get a cyborg ninja and a buff senator fighting on a giant lobster robot talking about the future of America and memes? Yeah that’s awesome

[@tomhynes6]

It's likely happening as we speak

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@tomhynes6 the making of metal gears?

[@ZeranZeran]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 they're called Chinese Gears now

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@ZeranZeran red sun x red sun remix playing

[@bighex5340]

I love that Max took criticism from people saying "Actually, this isn't the most profound moment, check this out!" and made it a backbone of his channel by commenting on those profound games and moments in them hahahaha

[@zerggiee9412]

Exactly why Max's channel is one of my favorites!

[@gdl9362]

Yeah that's a true gamer move right there

[@mithrasrose9727]

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[@dasuero7489]

@@mithrasrose9727 What was the point of this?

[@LoftOfTheUniverse]

I was around 12 when I played this game. The more I look back at it the more high quality it seems. Games are rarely an art or a gem like metal gear was, especially today. But anyway it was around the time I got saved and I have to say Jesus is right where He said the truth will set you free. Humanity is lost and gone astray, not considering that we will all have to give an account one day of all the things done and said. Just want to encourage everyone to accept Christ and have your debt paid so that we can share eternity together. Tale care always, and thank you for your thoughts

[@chrizzel28]

It was your analysis of Metal Gear that got me interested in your channel to begin with, and since then you've quite consistently managed to introduce me to difficult and interesting concepts. I'm glad to see you address it again, and I'm interested in the more personal angle of it this time. You're a blessing Max, we should all strive to be the best we can be and I'm glad this moment helped you, I and many more of us to try and be better versions of ourselves.

[@ZeranZeran]

Amen. The first video with the codecs from MGS2 blew my mind so much then, and still does now. I still think that one is the most horrifying, because of how accurate it is. I found it around the same time as Yuri Bezmenovs' "Ideological Subversion" speech, and it both horrified me and amazed me. Now excuse me while I go back into my own comfortable little pond that only feeds me information that I want to hear. /s - Don't watch the news. Thanks Max :).

[@tripplordofinconvenience9953]

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[@Alex-hu5eg]

@@thotslayer9914 Nietzsche is a pretty strong meme nowadays, partly because it's the closest you can get to a nazi, without being banned or silenced publicly. :)

[@Alex-hu5eg]

@@thotslayer9914 IF I've said that! Which is I didn't. I was a huge fan of Nietzsche in my twenties, I know the literature well enough and I honestly think His romantic idealism towards the image of an übermensch/genius/ ,and all that was the essence of the whole movement of romanticism. Although Nietzsche wasn't an antisemite, (he didn't even like the Germans) but the crescendo of his ideas and the whole romanticsm movement worldview was nazi Germany. Nietzsche went mad after realizing how wrong he was. later Germany, romanticism and it's spearhead: nazism, they all bled out under stalingrad. Carl Jung wrote a fascinating work on Nietzsche and his madness. Highly suggested.

[@Alex-hu5eg]

@@thotslayer9914 yeah right. Nietzsche wasn't a racist even looked down and despised the Germans, as he called them softened, weak and decadent. He quarraled with Wagner and moved to switzerland. Too much Individualism hold people in solitude, and solitude makes people hostile and venomous. Man seeks mutual love in community, we're kinda wired for that. There are other great existentialists whose found better antidote to nihilism Schopenhauer, Doestoyevsky, later Freud and Jung, Frankl and so on.

[@tiagobinz9186]

That CODEC conversation caught me so off guard. When I finished the game, I was just silent, I lay on the floor and stayed there for a few minutes, contemplating how ignorant I still was. It also made me realize how much a videogame could impact someone, and made me more motivated to follow a game development career. Today I am a game developer, and owe a lot to MGS2 and Shadow of the Colossus for giving me these moments.

[@OvnYf2307]

Snake's final speech in MGS2 is the most profound moment in video game history. Life isn’t just about passing on your genes. We can leave behind much more than just DNA. Through speech, music, literature, and movies… what we’ve seen, heard, felt… anger, joy, and sorrow… these are the things I will pass on. That’s what I live for.

[@KasumiRINA]

This... people are SO focused on what the VILLAINS in the game say, ignoring the fact they're trying to confuse, abuse, and damage the hero, while it's Snake who's the good guy and Raiden finds happiness with his love, the most hated female character in series, partly because she's modeled after... author's real wife.

[@Psycho-Thinker]

​@@KasumiRINAWho is the author real wife

[@The-Enemy-Medic]

​@@KasumiRINA except in snake's speech everything he talks about like speech, music, poetry, anger and sorrow are all products of other people. You're taking their ideas and making it your own, creating a mixed albeit premade personality for yourself. You don't think your own thoughts, you don't live your own life or make your own decisions, your decision making and thoughts are naturally affected by the art, ideals and people you are willing to listen to. So if something like the patriots AI controlled which musicians made it to the top, if they decided which politicians would get the spotlight, if they consciously spread biased information on the internet and that information was accepted by people around you. You too would fall victim to the control of the system. To be truly your own person is to create your own art, enjoy your own thoughts on how things look and how things are. We are all tainted and biased simply from knowing a language for it exposes us to many ideals that are not our own. Snake simply accepts that he will never be his own person and proudly announces how he will let the media and people around him affect his thinking and actions.

[@Godzilla_Star_Eater]

Those things will get replaced if the number of immigrants exceeds the number of people being born in your country, which it does in the Occident.

[@Godzilla_Star_Eater]

​@@The-Enemy-MedicI consume lots of art, but don't let it change me negatively. We're not meant to be atomised individuals.

[@IvoryHourglass]

I fear Kojima and his gift of prophecy.

[@emmanuelboakye1124]

🤣🤣

[@antonyouten5447]

It's not prophecy. It's obvious where we are headed judging by past events, those who wrote our "history" and how it has all been framed. Anyone with actual knowledge of the past two centuries could see this coming easily. From the deep state (patriots) grip on global powers since the first world War. The usage of man as chess pieces and the absolute phoney garbage and ideological propaganda fed to us through every medium of media

[@Scotty1817]

“I NEED SCISSORS 61!!!” Was really the most profound moment in gaming history let’s be real.

[@Sebastian_Rabbit]

RAIDEN, TURN THE GAME CONSOLE OFF, RIGHT NOW

[@CUTIE_POXX]

@@Sebastian_Rabbit THE MISSION IS A FAILURE

[@Saladinos]

@@CUTIE_POXX FISSION MAILED

[@deeveevideos]

@@Sebastian_Rabbit I actually turned mine off. It freaked me out lol

[@KasumiRINA]

@@deeveevideos I didn't turn the game off, rather, it kept crashing. I was playing a PC version on a very outdated computer and couldn't progress past the part where you get a sword to slash things. Yeah, like just BEFORE final convos and boss fight. It took years for me to get back and replay it lmao.

[@bebopobama4686]

I fully agree with the point made about the difference in Deus Ex and MGS at the end. Kojima has always been very conscious about it too which is one of the reasons he's someone I would regard as one of the most valuable artists to work with games. He doesn't just use games to deliver an idea, he uses them to let players EXPERIENCE it. And that is the major difference between something like Deus Ex and MGS. MGS uses the medium and its "language of gameplay" to let players directly engage with these ideas and take part in them rather than just having NPCs spout them at you as dialogue. A lot of the interesting parts of Deus Ex weren't conveyed that way, you can adapt Deus Ex's story into another medium and it would still work, but with MGS the true experience is from playing it.

[@rockys201]

I guess the impact the final codec call with the Patriots in MGS2 impacted me was that we're all just pawns controlled by higher ups that there's nothing much we can do about. Then of course at the ending, Snake says that nobody is a pawn and you have freedom over your own life.

[@bruisedhelmet8819]

We are pawns, Snake was only right in the smallest degree. We pump our fists when we hear the rebellious songs, we clap at the hero winning over the hordes of villains, we cheer at the downfall of evil empires, but then the song or movie or book ends and here we are. Snake is right only in that joke; "Masturbation is the only thing that isn't taxed, regulated, or illegal. That's your freedom, you're free to f*ck yourself"

[@omensoffate]

That’s cute you think you have any control

[@mr.shin.5138]

​@@omensoffate Take control of areas of your life that you can, that's a start.

[@jagergerg9771]

MGS2 is the most profound moment, because we are living in it.

[@Zeethoo]

Games that "show, don't tell", tend to be the most consistently thought provoking, to me.. 😅 I have a huge respect for those types of games, and always find my self revisiting the lore, over and over again, and creating my own theories..

[@tannerslomko]

I’m 38 years old and I’ve been playing videogames since I was 6 and I agree that this was the most profound moment in my gaming history.

[@luispena766]

I'm 40, and these games enlightened me about government and the military industrial complex. My life may have been saved by it. After playing Metal Gear Sons of Liberty in the early 2000's, I was apprehensive of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, consequently I didn't join the military. Today, we recognize who was the real winner in those wars: the military industrial complex.

[@CUTIE_POXX]

The thing with discovering MGS2 roughly 20 years after its initial release, is that it's genuinely scary how accurate Kojima's stance on misinformation and deformation of truth is nowadays. It might've been true back then, but it's even truer in 2022. MGS is to video games what Matrix is to movies.

[@NJPortugal]

That video was the reason I subscribed and went along on your journey of interesting content. We need more people like you to stay on YT

[@ordakhan631]

The suffering is necessary...it feeds the soul. - Some guy some where

[@aaziuskrauze]

Venat from FF XIV Endwalker (2021)

[@Mao420br]

Bro, both videos literally haunted me since i watched. I'm on my last ride of psychology graduation, trying to understand 'being' Today i got fired of my job (3yrs old). Your video is a joy of light on my day. Keep going.

[@turtlekappa7141]

When I played MGS2 for the first time, hell the first several times. I didn't really understand what was going on. The concepts in the game went right over my head at first. But like every MGS game, I had to replay it. Over and over. Till I not only understood the story (but also so I could get those damned dogtags lol). I think it was in college that the final Codec conversation with "major" that it began to make sense and when it did. Like you, I was forever changed. Not having the most intelligent parents. I went to my friends first who casted doubt and brushed it off. Saying I was reading into a game too much. Tbh, they may have been right. Yet it just stuck with me. Then Shoutcast radio got taken down due to the several dozen reasons. Many of which were just plainly BS. That conversation just echoed in my head. It was happening before my very eyes and honestly. Had I not played MGS2, I feel like I would have been blind to it.

[@williambaldwin9487]

Your video from three years ago was my first experience with your channel, and it was an instant subscription for me. I've been deeply moved by many of your videos since, and I absolutely love your passion for the betterment of mental health. You always bring interesting and enjoyable perspectives on everything you cover, and I always look forward to seeing what you cover next. Thank you so much for doing what you do!

[@vossie-j]

Recently I also realized the unconscious state I had throughout the first 20 years - in my teens I struggled with people blindly following their parents/teachers/politicians etc. I was always the one with a different opinion compared to all my peers. It was a struggle and lonely process. Now I can look back and comfortable acknowledge that I’m proud and happy for who I am. Not because I bowed before the norm, but rather be my own person. I originally subscribed to your channel due to this video, those 3 years went by fast.. thank you Max for your time and efforts - you have literally influenced my life in a very positive direction and opened doors for my career. As a human being. As one that is more conscious. While false information through social/mainstream media has been more present then ever - you can and should be very proud of your honest work. Can’t thank you enough.

[@TheDailyMemesShow]

Whether or not is the most profound moment in gaming history, it's still an eye-opening experience, from all the angles it may be beheld 💯

[@MatthewBester]

Mine was Greyfox's last words, "We're not tools of the government or anyone else..." to a 13-year old, the idea of a life without coercion was novel. Then again in 2004, Big Boss' refusal of the presidential handshake, rejection of the highest authority. That always stuck with me. It led to a lifelong skepticism of politicians, regardless of affiliation. Seek out your local monuments to unknown soldiers, pay your respects to the real life 'Bosses'.

[@achaastheoneaboveall2732]

"Trying to prove the Patriots wrong." Wow, that's betting against gods right there. But you've done it wonderfully so far, so Mr.Derrat, here's to you and here's to more in the future ! In the words of Solidus: "We will triumph over the Patriots, and we will become, The sons of Liberty!" 🥂Cheers everyone!🥂

[@conceptualmessiah01]

The sons of liberty can always live in shackles.

[@achaastheoneaboveall2732]

@@conceptualmessiah01 Oh absolutely, they can and had Solidus succeeded, they probably would, given that they hadn't yet removed the Patriots influence over the world. But, in the end, people like Raiden or Armstrong, who inherited Solidus' will, they eventually succeeded in removing the Patriots hold over the World. Perhaps, when the time comes, we will succeed as well. Not in removing the Patriots or something alike because they don't exist yet. But succeed in preventing the existence of something similar.

[@thelegendofner0]

La Li Lu Le Lo

[@T0n1_24]

i just love you man, thank god for having someone like you on youtube max

[@gronndar]

Most profound moment in gaming history was referenced by george salonikh "mgs best playthrough".

[@teh1archon]

This essay should be revisited every 2-3 years to see how the previous iteration holds up and update it.

[@hurykanejw]

This the most profound moment in gaming because this is going on around us now.. when I first heard it back in the day I didn't understand it, but the tone of the conversation scared me😂 when I got older and played it again and I looked at the reality around me, I realize that moment is the greatest moment.. now I don't have a recommendation for a game to play, but I got a recommendation for a profound moment in the movie called My Dinner with Andre.. you will notice the profound moment when you hear it 💯

[@ajsuarez86]

The conversation hit me in much the same way as you described, a call to consciousness. I’ve spent my life since then trying to raise my consciousness to that level, with mixed results. Thank you for helping me find more words to understand such a sublime experience.

[@julian2719]

Can't believe you're at over 200k subscribers. Seems like yesterday KZbin recommended your original MGS video to me.

[@jack02krauser]

That moment in MGS2, sent me to study psychology in college.

[@ashleykingston1980]

I watched your original MG2 video 3 years ago and it blew my mind. I was only a young man when I played MGS2 on the PS2 and I missed the relevance at the time. You've set me off questioning many aspects of our world (in a healthy way!) and I find the discussions invigorating. 👍

[@futavadumnezo]

Man, I miss video games like this. The impact they have stuck with you. It's not that today's games are boring or bad or even the MTX, it's just they lack this, a soul, a message. Every good art has a deep message or makes you think or feel in a powerful and impactful ways.

[@11B_geek_with_gun]

In my opinion, this video series should be required watching for everyone with a heartbeat.

[@rubenaraujo8323]

My man! what a nice surprise. Thank you for another chapter of this.

[@adynat0n]

A man got his Ideas questioned and instead of seething and cry, he goes on a quest to expand his knowledge. That is a lesson we need to learn. Well done, my friend. I'll do my best to prove the Patriots wrong.

[@ogerch7745]

Thank you Max for making my nights sleepless. That video was genuinly an eye opener to many and I hope to see your channel grow prosperously. Thank you.

[@Random24853]

MAX! You’re without a doubt my favorite voice on KZbin. Keep it up buddy!

[@silentobserver888]

Peak humanity

[@R3TR0JVN]

It's also ironic for Kojima to be targeted by false information even tho he warned us decades ago w/ MGS, during the japanese prime minister assasination..

[@stalex801]

I've watched "The Most Profound Moment..." numerous times, shared it with friends, partaken in the...meme. But it is definitely one of the most profound moments of my life regarding challenging what I believe to be true. It seriously changed my life, for the better. I greatly appreciate what you do and always await the next video.

[@archdiangelo7930]

I think the main thing I've realized from all these profound moments... is that I have no idea what to think. I don't know what philosophy is right for me, what set of beliefs is most appealing to me, what stance I should take on the problems I face, and what actions I should take to improve my life and the lives of those around me. But, in the end, I think that's okay. The fact that I can't seem to decide on anything just means that I have to keep learning, to keep seeking out and discovering new and intriguing perspectives, to further broaden my understanding of myself and the world around me, even at the cost of said understanding breaking apart and reforming again and again. Maybe that *is* the answer I've been missing, learning and understanding for its own sake. Who knows? Bottom line, good video, big brain, me likey, keep it up XD

[@nickvonderheide2192]

Funny I thought about this video recently, cool to see it get a follow up

[@wolfdragox5563]

"I will try to prove the Patriots wrong" i really love this sentence, i've reached a similar way to look at villains in great stories, often i see people supporting the villain or saying they're more relatable than the hero but i think they always miss 1 crucial point, the villain CAN be "right" but there's something in their logic or mindset that its not and thats why they're the villain, we should always think in how to not end up as them, even if we agree with them we must never want to be like them, we must prove them wrong and in some cases maybe even reach their goal in a better way being better than them, never like them.

[@rozilla_the_savage4445]

I love how you're so willing to get more information and find ways to unite people of all different ideas. Keep up the great work.

[@AbyShure]

Thank you for all your videos! I really enjoy them. Greetings from Tlaxcala, México.

[@sleepy_dreamr]

I personally think there are more profound things than misinformation. I feel like people get so caught up in conversation of what’s misinformation and what’s not that they wind up becoming terminally centrist.

[@KasumiRINA]

Depends on what you mean by centrism: there's a thing called horseshoe theory. Notice how extreme left and alt right equally pander to conspiracy theories. Because the radicals are closer to each other than to any reasonable policies. THAT SAID, because of right-wing shift, many people who describe themselves as centrists in USA are basically conservatives who think tRump team goes way too far right... So do you mean the people calling themselves "libertarian" or "centrist" while having clearly auth-right values ("drain the swamp" stuff), or someone who sees status quo and liberal US establishment as, if not good, than at least, lesser evil of the possibilities? Coz if there was one time in history we actually need actual centrism and consensus with compromise candidates leading the way, it's now... I just want to thank based people who elected Biden and Ukraine now has ammo to defend ourselves is all.

[@ianleather5699]

I love this guy, he's both eloquent and willing to improve, and he talks about some of my favorite games

[@ishmaelcamillo]

your most profiund video brought me too your channel, and actually brought so many great forums and discussions my way, such as deus ex, talos principle etc. Your mental health videos(more specifically on topic with autism) have kept me looking forward to our content and helped me move forward in a positive direction with my life. I greatly appreciate you and your videos. Many thanks from a stranger!

[@aku896]

you are doing great things by making so many people think

[@redshipley]

The most profound moment in gaming history was the friends we made along the way

[@thelastminuteman7513]

The moment in MGS2 was really eye opening in the sense of the how for me. I sort "always" knew governments and powerful leaders manipulated the population through lies propaganda and misinformation but at the time I still saw the internet as an uncontrollable bastion of freedom. It wasn't until the last 5 or so years that I started to see how accurate MGS2 was at predicting the control of information.

[@xerodelacroix5552]

I knew it was going to be Nier: Automata. I don't think anything is ever going to dethrone it.

[@bryantambracc]

Metal Gear 2 is like the 1984 of modern times.

[@craigsovilla6578]

1984 is the 1984 of modern times.

[@bryantambracc]

@@craigsovilla6578 Yeah, read that again.

[@craigsovilla6578]

@@bryantambracc Whoosh. There will never be another 1984. Do they play MGS2 in high schools? Sit down.

[@bryantambracc]

@@craigsovilla6578 Maybe you want to go back to know what “like” really means.

[@craigsovilla6578]

@bryantambracc It's like comparing apples and oranges, bro. They're really just too different to even be compared imo. I mean to start you're comparing two different types of media. They're not even in the same category or genre.

[@BloodMythos]

I’ve loved your channel for a while now. But what really got me was your Aion series. It’s an incredibly challenging book yet contains a kind of knowledge that brings a coming of consciousness. At least for me. I’ve shared that series with so many people now. For those with not much prior exposure to psychoanalytic literature it’s illustrated perfectly, which is great for most of my friends. Keep doing what you’re doing man! God bless.

[@claudiobozzotta4769]

Keep up the good work! Great Max, you're doing something great

[@ThisGuyIsBluu]

Literally just watched your two old profound moment in gaming vids about a week ago. Surprising to see this pop up again :)

[@electricblue-i3q]

I don't think this will get heard, but I'll say it anyway. It's hard to focus on truth or really anything outside your own life when you gotta focus on figuring out how to make ends meet. And that's most people right now. I'm in my early thirties, and up until a few years ago, I was living out the back of a car, showering in gyms, and hopping from place to place, trying to find something that stuck. Something did, and I dared to take a vacation. I came back, and the apartment building I lived in had burned to the ground along with everything I had, not to mention the other people that lived there as well. I don't blame anyone for choosing what's convenient because honestly there's bigger fish to fry just trying to live life. I came here following a trail from a react video and I thought you had some interesting points, but that's the biggest road block, I'd say. I dont even have time to watch any news, just hear it second-hand from colleagues at work, or gaming news from friends who share similar interests. It's funny, I thought I'd be against the AI's argument, but I'm actually kind of for it. It's scary, though.

[@LoveBanana69]

I agree with Max on the profundity of MGS2. I was absolutely mind blown by this conversation where I had to sit down and digest what had I had just heard and been a part of for a good long time. It also made me consider how video games like this are a new form of actual art. One of my favorites of all time. Thank you to Max for creating the videos and even more for being open to other ideas.

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

"Person suffers mental breakdown, has only a videogame from generations ago to relate to....". I wonder how that happened??

[@helloimsamson4181]

Didn't see that mgs2 codec until your video, and while the message it gives was already shown to me through other means, your explanation was moving and impactful, as, I soon found out, with the rest of your work. Keep up the good work, we love you.

[@fang4223]

I hope your stance of genuinely taking what people say and trying to experience them yourself has helped draw some people out of their own tribalism. It's a good thing you did.

[@nat_sukashii]

Thank you for what you are doing Max! It is always interesting to hear when a game has such an effect on ones mind. I was sadly too young when I first played MGS2 for the ending to have an impact on me, however Nier Automata did have this 'wake-up' call on me. It profoundly changed the way I looked at life.

[@elrevesyelderecho]

8:55 or how millions of people followed Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, Franco, Gaddafi, Hussein, Castro, etc etc etc and become part of "the horror"

[@thedeaderer8791]

Seriously that video blew my mind. It left me with all sorts of feelings. First denial then anger then fear then acceptance. For two days I walked around in my own head processing what was said and what is going on currently. It was so noticeable that my gf at the time kept asking me what was wrong. Immediately I was hooked to ur channel and ever since then I've been so grateful from the info I get from ur vids and ur perspective on things. Never stop

[@abusedumpster8882]

I was dead tired after playing through MGS2 all day for the first time. It was probably 11:30, midnight when I got this scene. I was in a full run through of the series, I’d spent the last week or so going through Snake Eater, Peacewalker, Phantom Pain (didn’t have the first game so I just read a summary). I was not prepared for this conversation and all the bombs it dropped. I went through the rest of the game, turned it off, went to bed, woke up the next day and stared at my ceiling for a long, long time.

[@larslyd1627]

I feel this channel is tapping on the real curse of life; questing everything in our living woking life

[@TerryTop_]

I'm a 3D artist, and I always wanted to tell stories in small animations, and when I started watching your videos, I had like some kind of revelation. Like it totally changed my ideas, my perception of things, and in the way I think and gave me a lot of idea for my creations. So yeah your videos totally changed me, thanks for that

[@mojonojo3]

As always - Bang on.

[@itryen7632]

Heidelger kojumbine tried to warn us...

[@jackroyaltea5034]

Homie had an existential crisis after a meme. This is the new world we live in. I embrace its chaos with open arms. Good show old chap.

[@michaelmercedes5118]

What I love about you and your videos is that you're able to articulate what I have tried explaining to people. Thanks 😊

[@Fahrenheit38]

I still like kane's speech about a coin landing on its side over anything else in gaming.

[@da_roachdogjr]

When you mentioned more profound games, I was like "say nier automata, say nier automata, YES!". That game's message improved my life.

[@themanwhospeaks8010]

4:39 Hah, objective truth is impossible to discern

[@Blackout0701]

Amazing video Max ‼️

[@MetalGear_Markie]

Just now viewing your content on ghost in the shell as well! Thank you for the great content man!

[@slusheewolf2143]

This video made me emotional to such a degree most can't touch. Thank you, Max

[@Esc4me]

MGS2 is my favorite game of all time. The codec call always gave me chills since I was a kid. Back then I didn’t quite understand what they were talking about, but the tone of it all felt dreadful. As you mentioned in you video about the realization you came across about yourself, I also had the same feeling as I got older. This game hits home on so many levels.

[@OldBaldWookiee]

Just when i thought there were no more videos on this subject from you

[@ubermalice9589]

Yours is some of my favorite content available. It's always thoughtful and leaves me feeling the better for having given it my attention. Thank you.

[@joshuastephens6105]

What a thoughtful video! Glad I'm not the only one who found mgs2's questions life changing

[@maxderrat]

Thanks for watching man!

[@fabricciogonzalezrodriguez3616]

Hey Max! I would like to thank you because of your work. It all started with this video you made on MGS2, thanks to it i started to understand how my mind, and everyone else's mind works in a way. You introduced me to Silent Hill, The lighthouse, Metal Gear, Tool, all of wich gradually helped me to reach an evolved state of mind where i overthink and overanalyze everything that i can. Thanks to that i feel that i'm the best version of myself, comprehending everything that these masterpieces have to propose i really feel like i can take the best desitions in my life, so i can embrace this moment, and celebrate this chance to be alive and breathing! By the way, yesterday i coincidentally fell compelled enough to upload a picture depicting the different steps that i followed with each new, fundamental work of art that i consumed, it's something like: Introduction (Silent Hill/The lighthouse) Realization (Metal Gear Solid 2) Perpetualism/Goal (Tool) Basically, Silent Hill and The Lighthouse helped me understand the basic concepts of the parameters regarding the human mind. Having in mind this information, i could easily interpret MGS'2 concepts, wich lead me to the importance of critical thought and analysis. Then Tool comes in the ecuation, oh boy. Tool helps me reinforce the idea of the importance of the consciousness, and mantain a perpetual thought on the subject. I listen to Tool when i work, excersice, travel, etc. So having it constantly resonating in my head helps me to never forget about the importance of training your mind. Anyways, that is ALL thanks to you!!! I really want to thank you a lot, you absolutely changed my life.

[@usel7226]

The most profound moment in games to me was nearly the entire story of I have no mouth and I must scream. You should definitely make a video about it, I'd love it

[@Adrot]

I came back to watch those Silent Hill Mythology videos and it became inspirational for an Iceberg I plan to make on some underrated games from the DS era. I would listen to them again just to get immersed on the concepts.

[@wachyHoney]

Max, your effort and work have indeed impacted me both consciously and unconsciously (specially, with the MGS and Silent Hill videos) - thank you.

[@efsilva86]

Great video I remember this moment in the game shocked me to my 14 year old core. I needed a long shower after this to just think. It was a Sunday school night and boy was that the wrong day to finish this game lmfao

[@3zzzTyle]

GEP Gun is the most profound way to eliminate misinformation.

[@bradfordskelley]

Another amazing video. Very very good observations. We most definitely share similar mindsets.

[@ArtemioUrbina]

Thank you for your videos, you make incredible work. MGS2 touched me so deeply back in the day, that I ended up writing an "analysis" back then that I published in Junker HQ. It is very naive and doesn't go in depth as you have done, and it was really a defense of the game since it was attacked a lot back in 2001 in the MGS fan circles. But the game blew me away, and that conversation got me thinking a lot about books I had read, movies I had seen and it all came together when I got sick and had to be in bed for a few days. That's when I wrote that old text, because MGS2 showed me that even if MGS had already exposed complex ideas to a wide public though games, games had the capability to express these though gameplay, through actions... and create an empathy bridge that makes it stronger. Again, thank you very much.

[@AngelOfDæth_4]

I beat this game multiple times when I was young and didn't understand what the devil they were talking about. Only thought the end was just so damn long and full of "unnecessary" dialogue. After watching the same vid you're referencing and listening to the codex call again, it just slapped me HARD in the face lol

[@cristiannavarro6128]

Max, I was a teacher in a little town of talagante, Chile and I manage to show your video in class and made a lot of teenagers try to figure out the meaning by their own. Your reach is even more high than what you can imagine

[@maxderrat]

Oh my god! That’s the coolest thing! Thank you for telling me this!!!

[@jimmyhankblackie8827]

It's certainly not as intellectually profound as the mgs2 final codec, but it's one that keeps popping into my head from time to time as a moment a silly video game caught me off guard and made me emotional. In ratchet and Clank 1 where you take Clank back to the robot factory where he was made and he talks to the computer that made him. At the end of the scene Clank says "I'll make you proud, mom" then on a screen it just says "you already have". I played this game with my dad when I was really young and I think it was the first time a game actually made me feel emotionally connected. Looking back on it now it's pretty profound how games as a medium can make you experience strong emotional connections.

[@GGutium]

Hideo Kojima pointed out that genetics pass on through offspring, memes don't (memories, beliefs, values, religion), and that explains everything you need to know about human nature.

[@user-nr5ye7zz7b]

Love your thoughtfulness, Max! Keep up the good work! :)

[@GantzGeo]

Bioshock one. That one took me by surprise.

[@Ikcatcher]

The OG video that got me interested in your content

[@irishlad1420]

So glad he acknowledged neir. That game really made me think and got me involved in learning philosophy

[@felkanagi]

I think you could bring to your channel a analysis of a movie called “Demolition Man” (1993). In my opinion, there’s a lot of things that we can associate with the things we are seeing now. Like a most profound moment of movies or something like that

[@mauriciofarfan3937]

Thanks to You, that video was My first Derrat video , since then MGS has become My fav Game franchise!

[@dasuero7489]

Max, it was The Most Profound Moment in Gaming History video, your video on Heart of Darkness by Conrad as literary motif and its media adaptations like the shocking subversive Spec Ops: The Line which left me stunned yet fascinated as well as your elucidation on Bioshock's character philosophies and messages and of course the existential SOMA and then some that my curiosity and interest in these topics was brought out-- something I thought I wouldn't touch. I found your channel in 2017 or 2018; thinking it was the latter. It is thanks to you that since then I've enjoyed learning about psychology, philosophy, history, alchemy, and esoteric ideas and how each element helps to shape world events and sometimes inspire epic sprawling game or animation narratives. It was thanks to you that I know some more about autism and have compassion and love for this amazing respectful, intelligent community that you've helped to foster here. And I'm not religious, but you're a godsend, man. Keep making well-thought out and helpful content provided the algorithm sees and pushes it. Like another comment said, you've helped everyone here becomes less of an unconscious NPC/automaton and to strive for moral equilibrium, honest discourse, and mutual respect. Thanks again, man.