Studio One - How to Use Sends (Part 2)

[@tonyoneandonly]

thank goodness i found you ... at last someone who talks slowly and clearly and repeats and really knows wha its all about .... phew! i'm saved! really.....

[@maxkonyi]

Glad it was helpful Tony! 🙌

[@tonyoneandonly]

@@maxkonyi is it ok to ask you a tech question about room reverb sends? . .. (well I'll ask anyway. and hope it is alright) . .. when I put the room reverb on individual tracks (I have 4 tracks only) each track has its own individual visual of the room space with the source etc portrayed ... like little people in the room .. I find this so, so helpful. When all tracks are sent to fx channel .. I can't have those individual room visuals to help me adjust BUT it does sound much, much clearer using the sends ... is there a way I can have both? Please 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

[@maxkonyi]

@@tonyoneandonly Sorry for the slow reply here Tony! No, you cannot do both but it really isn't needed. That particular visual is very rare to see in a reverb and honestly isn't essential in my opinion. Through varying the send amount, panning and volume of each track, you acheive the same result, keeping a mental visualization for youself, if you like. Trust me, with experience it will all be come very simple and clear!

[@tonyoneandonly]

@@maxkonyi i cannot thank you enough Max . Thats made really clear ... brilliant .. especially "through panning, send amount and volume .." got it ... peace . 😊👍😊👍😊👍🙏

[@maxkonyi]

@@tonyoneandonly Hooray! Peace ✨

[@GladysGrace001]

Wow! The best clarification I've found on YT that precisely explains how *Buses & Sends* works. I've watched a gazillion videos to get the gist of it and just couldn't comprehend. You literally broke it down visually and auditorily . Thank you immensely. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@maxkonyi]

Thank you 🙏 So glad you found it useful!

[@axelbouffier348]

Me too 🥇

[@DUBCEAST49]

I totally agree 😎 4 years later and I finally got it.

[@fradomenico5030]

far ahead, the most clearly explained channel for studio one ! thank's👍👍👍

[@maxkonyi]

🙌🙌🙌

[@ucheiam]

Dude you have a serious talent for teaching! Wow!

[@maxkonyi]

Much appreciated 🙏

[@TheOfficialFanP]

Thank you for all these tutorials; you make it a lot easier to understand than most people on KZbin

[@maxkonyi]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@surenharichund8570]

Very simple to understand ur explanations. U r a good teacher. Thank u

[@maxkonyi]

🙏🏼✨🙏🏼

[@mikemoseley9691]

Thank you soo much for explaining this so clearly. It has really confused me for a long time. BTW you are a really good teacher 👍

[@MrMelancobar]

Even tough Presonus has great teachers (Joe Gilder, Gregor) your clarity, simplicity, even your pace... your a great comunicator (I should translate "didactica" from spanish..."didactics"...? Teaching skils) !! Looking forward to dive in your channel. Subed! ( with the bell on..!!). Thankssssss Greetings from Argentina!

[@maxkonyi]

Thank you! Much appreciated. Please enjoy 🙌

[@rikkistarrett307]

It's weird that I knew all this anyway but still watched these videos because your way of explaining is very enjoyable. Subbed.

[@maxkonyi]

Haha! Great 🌞 Thank you

[@herealbutler]

FACTS!!!!!! LOL

[@HarleyBob957]

great info.. you did a great job explaining how to use a sends channel.

[@maxkonyi]

Thanks 🙌

[@colognialist1964]

so helpful. great source for all about studio one and music theory too. Your channel is totally underrated. Thanks Max... I can highly recommend joining Max' Discord.

[@maxkonyi]

Thank you! So nice to have you in the community 🌞

[@joebeatz5428]

Thanks for making my life more easier,ur the best in what u do man,keep doing the great job...

[@maxkonyi]

My pleasure 🌞 Happy to hear it

[@patrickgoethals3235]

clever explanation, it gives me a clear picture. step-by-step. (It is a comfort that there is no hassle of a cursor going back and forth, and everything changes and you have to watch the video 10 times again. Most tuturials are about click here and there without saying what's actually going on (behind the scenes, so to speak). Especially for me, I'm new to editing. (Google tranlate i'm dutch) THX 4 the vid.

[@maxkonyi]

Great 🌞 So glad you found it useful

[@CesitarLabarthe]

YOU EXPLAIN VERY WELL. CONGRATULATIONS

[@maxkonyi]

Thank you! 🙌

[@AlepouTV]

Omg i love the way you explain all this!! 🙏👏👏👏

[@maxkonyi]

Great! Happy to hear it and nice to see you on the stream yesterday 🌞

[@123GEZZY]

Great video, well explained

[@jt6294]

Wonderful!!!! So clear and concise!

[@maxkonyi]

Glad to hear it! ⚡️

[@dingohaus]

So clear and helpful. Great teaching. Thanks!

[@maxkonyi]

Glad you enjoyed it! 🙌

[@BloodSavedMe]

The Bus channel should be sent to the FX channel/bus, but can you elaborate more on exactly why that is? Just a little confused on that part.

[@maxkonyi]

I assume you're referring to sending the delay bus to the reverb FX channel? The goal: Have the original signal AND delay sound like they are in the same space. The method: - Send original signal to reverb. - Send original signal to delay. (At this point, original signal will have reverb but delay will be totally dry.) - Send delay to reverb. (Now the delayed repetitions (echos) will also have reverb on them, making them sound connected to the original signal because they are in the same 'space'.) That is the purpose. If you don't want your delays to have reverb as well, just leave the delay bus as is (don't send to reverb FX channel).

[@BloodSavedMe]

So basically you have two FX buses, and need to insert delay first then send to a reverb bus, correct?

[@maxkonyi]

I always keep my delay and reverb on separate busses/FX channels. If you want your delay to also have reverb on it, it's best to use a bus instead of an FX channel because FX channels don't have sends. Then, you can make a send from your delay bus to your reverb FX channel. So, in the most basic setup, I have three channels. The original audio/instrument track, a bus with a delay on it, and an FX channel with a reverb on it. The original audio track uses one send for the delay and another for the reverb. The delay bus then uses one send for reverb as well. Hopefully that helps!

[@colin5785]

Excellent advice

[@gregpastic6910]

Hey Max, I have a question for you. When you turned the send level up to max I could hear the latency that was being introduced to the signal. Does that latency also affect mixing of the wet and dry signals? If that is correct, then the onset of the added reverb doesn't line up with the dry signal. Excellent videos. Thanks for sharing your love of music and your gift of teaching.

[@maxkonyi]

Hey, I'm not sure what you mean. Can you give me a timestamp for that moment? The onset of the reverb is determined by the pre-delay amount. A large pre-delay will mean an audible gap between the dry signal and the reverb.

[@uptownphotography]

Well explained, as always...

[@maxkonyi]

🙌🙌🙌

[@herealbutler]

Hey Max, great great video, I have a question for what u were talking about at 11:00, instead of making a bus to make the reverb and delay work together, would adding a reverb undern the delay on the same FX bus be the same thing?

[@maxkonyi]

Yes that works, but it means doubling your reverbs since you probably won't want every sound to have delay and reverb. When they are on separate busses, you can send certain tracks just to the reverb, and others to the reverb and the delay.

[@herealbutler]

@@maxkonyi make sense, thanks a million fam

[@neverodd]

Well im an fl expert just here for learn how it works on studio one. This looks more easy more decent with ur teaching lol. Looks like i was killing my self for a long time on fl.

[@maxkonyi]

Glad it's working for you 🙌🏼 Let me know if you have any questions

[@neverodd]

@@maxkonyi u r such a legend. U r not leavin any question mark behind u. Im out of questions coz of u lol shameeeee

[@maxkonyi]

@@neverodd haha nice 🙌🏼 thank you!

[@colin5785]

Now I understand

[@maxkonyi]

🙏✨🙏

[@ostrmic]

I follow your video series from start, great and very informative work, thank you! Rewatching this once again after some time and I have a question regarding sends: around 12:00 you say that if I wanted to send delay to reverb I'd have to use bus instead of FX so that I have sends available. But what if I just changed output of this FX from "Main" to the reverb I want to send it to? Wouldn't that work? Sure, I would be sending 100% of the delay to the reverb, but that could probably be adjusted with main fader, right?

[@maxkonyi]

Thank you for the support! Much appreciated 🙏 Answer: Since the reverb you are sending to is 100% wet (no original signal), if you route the delay directly to it, you will no longer hear the original delay signal with its proper timing relationship. Instead, you will hear the reverb OF the delay, which will have all the characteristics of the reverb (time shifted, different frequency balance, smeared, etc.) We want to hear the original delay as if it is present in the space created by the reverb. For that, we need the dry signal, and the processed reverb signal. Does that make sense?

[@skunchtv]

so good

[@samuelmaylor6634]

thanks lots of good info, wondering when I add that Verb or another effect should that track clip or do I need to redo the Mix level after adding effects. ever learning. thanks

[@maxkonyi]

Always good to avoid clipping wherever possible. Are you adding the verb by a send? Or as an insert on the track?

[@samuelmaylor6634]

@@maxkonyi im using a send..

[@maxkonyi]

@@samuelmaylor6634 Ok, make sure the mix knob on the reverb is fully wet (no dry/original signal). If it's still clipping, check how much signal you're sending from the original track - should be less than 0db. If still clipping, just turn down the fader on the reverb track 🌞

[@samuelmaylor6634]

@@maxkonyi thanks I appreciate the info

[@bluemonday9538]

thank you so much for the video

[@agesonjohanesburg2915]

Thx. Cant you just add reverb fx etc to the drum bus or other busses? Gracias

[@maxkonyi]

Yes for sure. But often you don't want equal reverb (or even the same reverb) for different pieces of the drum kit. For other busses, it's definitely useful to add a reverb send on them, depending on what's in the bus.

[@herealbutler]

1 more question, do you think reverb should be before or after the delay on the signal chain?

[@maxkonyi]

Generally, reverb should be after delay. Otherwise, you are making copies of your entire reverb which will lead to a huge reverb...

[@herealbutler]

@@maxkonyi ok thanks a million!!!!!!

[@julionspencer1892]

thanks!

[@ForestBlunt]

Bro u rock!

[@maxkonyi]

🙏🏼🙌🙏🏼

[@JamesWarrenWatts]

Since it's best to send Fx's to buses to save CPU, then what's the purpose of Inserts?

[@maxkonyi]

Inserts are when you want to effect a track directly. Sends are for two things: 1). Keeping a 'dry' version of the sound intact while being able to dial in some amount of 'wet' signal 2). Sending multiple tracks through the same effect or processing chain. If you want to distort your guitar, you simply place the distortion directly on the track as an insert and you end up with a distorted guitar. If you used a send, you would end up with a fully clean guitar AND a distorted guitar. Does that make sense?

[@JamesWarrenWatts]

@@maxkonyi Thank you kindly for your response. Should I avoid using reverb on inserts and just use a send for reverb?

[@maxkonyi]

@@JamesWarrenWatts Most of the time, yes. However, there are times when it makes sense to place reverb directly on the track as an insert. In cases where only a single instrument requires a specific reverb type, it can make your session cleaner by not adding an send/bus channel that will only be used by one track. Also, using it directly on the track gives you the ability to automate the dry/wet (or mix) knob. This means you can fade the sound into its reverb seamlessly with one line of automation. That isn't so easy when using a send.

[@JamesWarrenWatts]

@@maxkonyi Great answer Max. Thanks again.

[@WojciechKobus]

Hi! Quick Q: do you use VCAs?

[@maxkonyi]

Good question. Not often but that's probably more to do with living without them for so many years before S1. I'm just used to a certain workflow. I can see the benefit for sure

[@ASHLEYCOELHO]

thanks helped me alot

[@maxkonyi]

Hooray! 🙌🏼

[@3rf4nx91]

nice daw

[@colaboytje]

Just a tip: have a drink next to you, so you avoid the dry mouth sound ;-)

[@maxkonyi]

Haha 😂 An ongoing battle to this day... I've made some progress in the years since I first recorded this video, I think 🤞

[@stupidusername38]

hi Max is there a keyboard shortcut for Add FX Channel for Selected Tracks?

[@maxkonyi]

Good question! I don't know off the top of my head. Did you ever figure it out? Might be assignable in the keyboard window.

[@stupidusername38]

@@maxkonyi no, I couldn't find a keyboard shortcut which surprised me, seems a bit of an opportunity not fully implemented

[@maxkonyi]

@@stupidusername38 Agreed...strange.