USAF Flight 21 Mystery | Mayday Air Disaster

[@ZombieSazza]

I can’t see a lot of these episodes online because they’re geolocked to America, I’m from Scotland, this is one of the only ways I can watch. Disney+ USED TO have them available in my country, but not anymore, so I’m beyond grateful for Mayday to be uploading these to KZbin. Please keep uploading episodes here, I’ll honestly happily watch all of them even if I’ve seen them before, I’m just grateful I can access episodes again ❤

[@bluebelle8823]

While I don't have one geoblocking is one of the major selling points of VPNs. It can get you around basically any geoblock.

[@joffreyverbeeck1640]

I'm having the same issue in Belgium It seems though, that a lot of the geoblocked episodes are new episodes. Possibly they will be available to watch after they aired on tv in our countries.

[@michaelchristof2959]

Not even the Lockerbie one?

[@desdicadoric]

Likewise

[@MaziWorks]

Honestly, y’all should stop complaining about re uploads. Many persons haven’t seen these episodes so re uploading them is necessary for the new audience to easily watch it. No one wants any new accident to happen for new episodes to be made, unless you want to be on a plane that it’ll happen to, then that’s fine by you.

[@chrisstrobel3439]

Good points, I admit to being one of the complainers in the past. This is very helpful for noobs to the hobby for sure 👍

[@ajjames8479]

It doesn't matter to me, I love these videos, I've seen them all many times and I still want watch them again and again. Love the quality and in depth explanation of each crashing, I feel for those that lost their life's.

[@the-digital-idiot]

It's basically an infinite bridge watch source, because there's so many crashes, that by the time I get to the same one again, I've forgotten most of the details. So if I need something to watch well doing something else, it's perfect.

[@Danmera]

I'm one of the "new audience" so thank you.

[@paulazemeckis7835]

This vid was originally uploaded to UTube several years back. Why re-upload the same episodes on multiple channels? That is the issue.

[@pamelamoore8188]

I haven't seen this episode and I thought that I had seen them all. Thanks for the re-upload.

[@bluebelle8823]

I had the exact same response when I saw this. This one is a slightly unusual one too.

[@sarahfrith1984]

I’ve never heard of this crash before, thank you for this episode

[@flawedexistence]

This flight should have been delayed, regardless of the passengers' committments. Life should take precedence over Press Conferences and meetings.

[@sakewis]

@@flawedexistence exactly my thoughts. There should not have been such pressure to land there

[@radrabbit011]

"Mr. Secretary, is it more important to land or live?" I'm pretty sure the DVs would've understood a delay or divert.

[@natehill8069]

You think military safety standards are lower for VIPs, check out the way they pack enlisted people into a cargo airplane - basically they are cushioning for the stuff being hauled.

[@NGC-cz1nr]

🤣🤣🤣

[@REFEREEMOUSE]

So true!

[@Mysticmermaid888]

I just found this channel a few days ago. Love it, thank you 🎉

[@Someone_you_know124]

I wish I was you! With all the videos yet to watch!!!

[@taaurus13]

I’ve never seen this episode. Thank you for the (re?) upload! 🙂

[@drmichaelshea]

Get-there-itis can be just as deadly for high-level bureaucrats as for anyone else.

[@natehill8069]

We dont even know if it was the bureaucrat his own self that pushed the mission, or if the captain didnt want to look bad (yes, he looks worse this way) to a VIP. I always wanted to fly corporate aircraft (things didnt go that way) but I always figured at some point I would have to learn how to tell a VIP "no, this aircraft isnt right for this trip at this time and place" and make it stick without getting fired.

[@andrewince8824]

As unfortunately is "military grade". Incredibly deadly, it simply means made by the lowest bidder and maintained to be barely good enough.

[@meems4378]

​@andrewince8824 And the military budget will be exponentially higher than the cost to produce.

[@cail171]

I've not seen this one. So doesn't bother me that its posted. Im sure theres others that haven't seen it either.

[@natehill8069]

NDB is an old technology BUT its very cheap (unlike VORs) and requires no synchronization with any other device. It does however require a high level of proficiency to operate correctly. Very fun, if you do it right, to play it back on the GPS and see what it looks like.

[@zidanehadeed9229]

It's old tech, but still used around the world. Great skill to have.

[@Preciouspink]

Mandela affect. My time line did not include a Ron Brown plane crash. After watching several of these.I conclude mountains pose to great a risk and must be phase out.

[@jenniferfigueroa7877]

thank you for the episode! 💖

[@webeto5902]

Never thought that my country would be in this. I remembered that day very well.

[@fredawadeley6472]

So happy for upload. You rock!!!!!

[@natehill8069]

If the USAF was repeatedly using Dubrovnik without adequate equipment, why didnt they deploy an ATCALS unit there?

[@sarcasticlollipop]

It was probably easier to not deploy an ATCALS unit there and blame it on the pilot’s skill if there were problems. Especially if there were prior successful missions in the books. Moreover, they were there to transport diplomats to help boost their economy, not to establish a US military presence. Bear in mind that this accident was heavily caused by USAF leaders breaking policy and the pilots of the accident aircraft being unprepared and trying to make up for lost time in inclement weather.

[@natehill8069]

Always sad to see these crashes where they hit 200' below the top of a mountain.

[@kixigvak]

At Croatian Airlines back then a pilot had to make 200 landings at Dubrovnik as first officer before landing as pilot in command. It is a difficult approach. The Americans were overconfident.

[@ShadowCatGold2006]

Y'all complaining about re-uploads: Here's a piece of advice. Quit griping, and just go find something else more to your liking to watch. Thanks!

[@Carlos-en9nz]

@@ShadowCatGold2006 get off his meat now

[@nehasharma-yy3st]

Why terrain alarm always sound so late.. when there is no time to save the plane😅

[@str8forthakill]

Mountains, you are 2000 feet into the air, and 200 meters later you are 200 feet into the air. They alarm for terrain below the plane not in front of the plane.

[@Jens-Viper-Nobel]

@@str8forthakill Correct. And it's been a problem for so long that it should be obvious by even 96 that a forward looking ground proximity radar would be needed in mountainous terrain.

[@meems4378]

​@Jens-Viper-Nobel wow. So if you are tanking into the ground, it's helpful, but anything in front of you is a "surprise" 🎉

[@valleking3366]

14:43 nice watch

[@ibrahimhadian5566]

I love these videos

[@georgecothran4760]

Went to Ramstein a few times in 72, and 73. I waws a parachute Rigger, and we went there to hope a C-130 to get our jumps in.

[@daconpictures]

I'd like to know who is/were the idiots to approve a flight over a war zone, in the night, in the middle of a storm to a POS airport? Good for them.

[@pejisan]

you are not wrong but it is so common that planes are flown where it would have been best not because folks want what they want. And the bosses wanted.

[@trawlins396]

​@@pejisanYour comment made absolutely no sense.

[@trawlins396]

​@@pejisanthat was a bunch of nonsensical rambling.

[@quynhle2157]

@@pejisanidk about the other comments. This makes perfect sense to me. Chartered planes have a very “the customer is always right” feel to me. Obviously some people have never been on a private flight and it shows 😂

[@taaurus13]

@@pejisanI understood your comment perfectly.

[@ThamMalaysia]

This is what happens when you don't have terrain following radar and high resolution synthetic aperture ground mapping radar.

[@rudyjakma3664]

I have used Jeppesen during all my career. Over 40 years. Jeppesen is very accurate and I doubt that it would have been a factor UNLESS the weekly updates were not accomplished. That should have been the job of the operations department. If not kept up to date even the Jeppesen can't be safely used. Today the Jeppesen is in electronic format.

[@RetiredFltEng]

49:00 That Air Force symbol on the sleeve DID NOT debut until 2001 and wearing "Buck Sergeant" stripes sitting in the left seat of a DV aircraft is crazy! I understand the uniforms can't be exact, but damn! 😮

[@huseman21]

Or why were they trying to land in a crazy storm in another county? thats why it crashed.

[@Jens-Viper-Nobel]

The story about a decoy beacon demanding a huge set up that can't just be done that easily is not true. Never was. If you know the exact frequency, you don't even have to build in the chips or crystals (depending on when it was built and with which parts available to the builder) for multible frequencies. All you have to build is the transmitter itself with a power source that will allow it it to have an output strong enough to mask the beacon you are hoping to subdue. And this would require only a hatchback car and a telescopic antenna and a battery source on top of the transmitter used. Such powerful transmitters were seen on jeep sized vehicles already in the 80's when I was a soldier, and the transmitters we had on warships could send significantly stronger signals than a beacon without taking up much more space than a common stereo unit in a normal home, the mentioned antenna tuned to the frequency, and the power source which do not need to be as big as a bus or truck because the power is converted in the transmitter. It wasn't used in this crash, and there was no foul play involved to deliberately cause harm to the flight. Because the decoy beacon would be too easily detectable to even a non suspecting observer that could plot a bearing to any signal he received. So it wasn't really a viable solution to someone with ill intentions. A trap on the ground would have been much easier to set up, and to mask it as a mine or explosive device lying undiscovered since the war in the area. Or if they knew which route the delegation would be using in the area, they could start a landslide to hit the vehicles, making it appear a tragic accident caused by the rain that stopped the delegation from doing it's planned work in the following days/weeks because injuries and casualties would have called for a cancellation. There were a whole smoergasboard of ways to hamper the delegation in ways that would not point a direct finger towards ill intentions in this war torn area.

[@Quack_jeep]

This is good keep it up

[@SuperBotanica]

This business trip could easily have taken place the next day. It's all about money

[@bretgreen5314]

Thank you. Sad outcome. I wish the gal would've been okay.

[@sserunkumamark]

Always here ❤

[@Rightstermeister]

We had no business sticking our nose into that area.

[@kixigvak]

I speak the language there and covered the war as a journalist. The widespread belief was that the war would end when the USA ended it. Not the west or NATO but the USA. The locals knew everybody else was irrelevant. I realize that doesn't mean we should have been there, but partlyexplains why we were.

[@meems4378]

​@@kixigvak here in the US, we are professional war vets, literally. We've been involved in some war every year since our inception aside from maybe a decade. It's what we do.

[@rudyjakma3664]

A tragedy. The accident is well discussed here. But ADF is a much older system than the INS.

[@SunayanaSB1998]

No one will blame the govt officials who wanted to fly back desperately despite horrifying weather?

[@pejisan]

if Galbraith didn't expect them to land why was he waiting at the airport?

[@donaldcampbell9219]

Ha!

[@donaldcampbell9219]

Ha!

[@saltamonte777]

Seems like diversion would have been the right choice, but may be the pilot felt pressure to land.

[@sonicbhoc]

It makes sense if you consider it's made for tv. You could probably even pinpoint where the commercial breaks are intended to go. If you were channel surfing (think doom scrolling but on a TV), and you ended up watching an episode of Maydau halfway through, you'd likely get pretty lost pretty fast.

[@mcgendraft]

Ah yes, Magic 51. That’s our government sitting in an airplane, drinking coffee out of a Styrofoam cup.

[@Julie-hf4ch]

had the passenger who survived the crash recovered in the end?

[@diegestive4167]

She died in the ambulance on route to hospital.

[@Julie-hf4ch]

@@diegestive4167 Oh..she survived the crash and another 4 hours until they were found, only to die on route to hospital. very sad indeed. .

[@creativeworld4237]

Safety comes first, diplomacy comes next.😢

[@jeromefitzroy]

FDR and CVR aren’t safety measures for that plane, it’s for safety measures after the fact

[@carsyoungtimerfreak1149]

The first question is 'why the hack would you want to visit a part of Europe 4 months after an uneasy peace was signed?'. The answer is easy: self interest. After all it was a trade mission. If you know the history of this part of Europe you will leave it alone for at least another 100 years... The second question is 'why would you land when all commercial flights already have been cancelled?'. I cannot answer this one. It probably did not play a role in the investigation, yet to me it is a very important question. In cases like this I feel that the people who are really responsible for this flight are never blamed. Probably too high up in government. My symopathy is with the crew, the hot shots on board were there out of their own free will, the crew was not.

[@jeromefitzroy]

Anyone watches these in order to sleep or before they sleep?

[@AEOH3X]

who else watches these when you feel unwell or hungover? lol

[@almondxdr1908]

Did anyone notice that the captain's flight suit had the rank of staff sergeant ?😭

[@frankthetank8050]

Yeah and it is truly heartbreaking 💔

[@taaurus13]

@@frankthetank8050I don’t understand?

[@stephenwright8824]

​​​Sergeants don't typically go to flight school. Officers often do. And their rank insignia are notably different. Enlisted men (sergeants) are issued flight suits but wouldn't be caught dead wearing theirs with captain's bars, for example. It''s against military law.

[@CryticalAce]

35:45 they mention finding the ADF but pull out an ADI, bit of an whoopsie on the production's part

[@mapro3594]

Garbage also falls from the sky 😅

[@antonymutinda3050]

A.J Davies... May your spirit locate me

[@aminah4239]

Did anyone else get annoyed by the pilot constantly chewing his gum? Stressed me out almost as much as the crash!

[@sdaiwepm]

The narrator pronounces Ramstein and Baton Rouge very "authentically."

[@quynhle2157]

@@sdaiwepm You’ve obviously never met a British person. Wait until you hear how they pronounce “valet”

[@Si1983h]

That’s some highly customised 737… who knew a twin isle wide body 737 ever existed?!

[@sandykelting9548]

Sometimes repetition SCREAMS: SEE THIS!!!

[@chrissywales6575]

My biggest problem with these videos is when measurements are only given in metric. I wish they'd give imperial too.

[@taaurus13]

I always google it when they say kilometers or whatever else.

[@somethingelse9228]

The entire world uses metric

[@oratorsforuminstitute2607]

Easy to multiply metres by 3 to get an approximate value in feet. (Exact conversion: 1 metre = 3.28 feet). ;)

[@DewYou-zn4ny]

Yes,i fully agree!❤❤

[@DewYou-zn4ny]

​@somethingelse9228 not my land,foo. Wth

[@malubasic2267]

Also it is not easy to dramatize them

[@jerrya640]

These people make me sick let's keep someone alive so NTSB have a lesser job. My mum was on that plane but they wanted to find someone more important. 😢

[@KazukoLight]

Wait you mean when they were rescuing they wanted to prioritize the more important person for rescue and leave your mom to die? Or do you mean finding someone to blame? Hate to ask but is your mom still here with us or died?

[@efapostle]

Who was your mother?

[@richarddavies7728]

A military spec aircraft, i.e. near enough for government work and get there itis. Always a deadly combination.

[@konstanzeallsopp3087]

Ramstein isn't pronounced Ramsteen, it is pronounced Ramstine. The rule for German words with the letter combination "ei" or "ie" are "e" before "i" is pronounced "i", "i" before "e" is pronounced "e". Always! It is easy and prevents embarrassing mistakes in a high-quality documentary.

[@terriquinlan7683]

I picked up on that too. The narrator is otherwise excellent.

[@DrMemory667]

A 737 wide-body with two aisles?

[@christianargueta6942]

It’s a custom 737, modified specifically for the USAF

[@scottmcmurtrie4215]

I've been watching Air crash investigations for years. Most of the time it's human error. There's so many avenues that need to be considered. Wrong information, stalling and not realising, fatigue....and most of all....not trained enough

[@Baz7575]

so long as the government aint to blame , Pathetic

[@janusz4156]

55 years of Boeing 737 in 2022.

[@AxmedMahmed-j5b]

There fate was there.and nothing can change this.

[@Ghanalottoreloaded]

I think Boeing 737s had the most accidents 😢

[@francoiscezanne4654]

Half program, half ads... Only if you're a great fan of commercials...

[@startrekstarfleetlcars44779]

ah! the 1990s, such good memories. I love Bill Clinton. One of the best U.S. Presidents.

[@meems4378]

On paper, he actually was a great president. He was just ahead of his time, clearly. Trump could do exactly what Clinton did and never even be questioned on it. Back then, we'd impeach a president that lied intentionally, directly to the American people's faces. Now, it's the Norm to do that at damn near every speech or press conference.

[@criticalloves]

Never seem this video 😜

[@smithhehehaha]

If this did not happened, Mr. Brown could be the first African American to become the President

[@ffej4895]

Why did that American soldier have an AK?

[@kixigvak]

That was a Croatian soldier. There were no American soldiers in Dubrovnik.

[@gamingpredator4226]

Amazes me that the aircraft wasn't carrying an FDR or CVR. Given what standard equipment they were in all commercial aircraft even in 1997, you would think the military would want them on their aircraft even if they aren't mandatory.

[@Crewtoncare]

Immediately

[@ScottyPimpinATL]

23:13 vodka & cigarettes

[@FAJARMULIAultimateedition]

clinton........

[@marypasco2213]

Why didn't AWAX tell them clearance had not been granted?

[@anitacho9023]

Why they fly in .. let them fly out

[@miadelavier4315]

final report was 7000 pages? nobody will read that. put it on 1 page. and dont fly in no visiblity. same happened with polish government plane. fog rain no visibility.

[@jonathanhumtsoe8429]

I think Boeing engineers are not professional

[@titan9259]

This is a 737-200, not the MAX

[@KazukoLight]

The ones from this era of Boeing were, the newer ones I hear are coming in as the old ones retire are the ones who have not as much experience and not great. My grandfather was a Boeing engineer and pilot who flew fueling planes during WW2 so don't insult him. He was retired by this point but still he put up with a lot of BS from Boeing's CEOs it sounds like and looks like the headwigs are doing similar things again aka being cheap to save themselves money.

[@titan9259]

@@KazukoLight Boeing must’ve been better back then

[@freemindthinkerezrapound5071]

They identified the captain by a piece of gum lodged in his throat

[@jonvan2451]

Dam

[@emmanuelmwachala5836]

😮

[@michaelperdue4540]

Hilary and Bill wanted that plane down....too much "knowledge" on that flight

[@AugustusLarch]

The US Military is not results oriented. They have not been results oriented for years and years. It still is not. The US Government has the military as empty facilitators. Mostly to give the defense industry reasons to charge huge contracts to the taxpayers. Results really don't matter. The sentiment matters. The thought is the only thing that counts.

[@trawlins396]

That's not exactly true. What results do you want in peacetime? They are MISSION and TRAINING oriented. And yes I'm a US Army active duty veteran. The focus is always training, training, training and readiness.

[@meems4378]

Partially true, but I agree on most of it.

[@SkyWalker-sn8us]

Thay just postid

[@Warren-go5ij]

Spell much ??

[@jurgenkuhlmann9194]

I think the narrator is a bit wrong about the date of the crash, which must have occurred in 1989, not in 1969. Because it happened during Bill Clinton's times in Office, and in 1989, the Yugoslav Civil War had just begun. I think this crash severely hampered the attempt made by the Clinton Government to bring the Civil War to a sudden end. Instead, people like Warren Zimmerman and Mr Akashi now led the negotiations with the Serbs, prolonging the War by being too soft on the Milosevic regime, thus leading to atrocities like the one in Srebrenica. Now, history is repeating itself as we become witnesses of a false policy of Appeasement towards a ruthless dictator called Putin.

[@Crewtoncare]

Stop planes to turkey from america and uk

[@desdicadoric]

I visited Dubrovnik before the war as a child. Sad to see so much of it was destroyed. RIP to all those lost, except the politicians. Damn. I hoped Sgt Kelly would make it 😢 47:16 wow the dems were going on and on about race even back then

[@YuTiyi]

Honestly though shall not blamed for this reasons ... Bad weather ☁️🌡️ strange foreign airport without capable or capacity of hitechnology equipment radar or something ...its an old type ....so why blame da military officers for what ?? it's a nature who built and make da approach landing so difficult to determine and so hard to hear and see da sensor ...in this case there's nothing to be blamed ...da pilots crew are also new in this horizon ...and we knew that the weather is so bad . . So no need to play da blame game 🎮🎯 in this situation ....!all of them have perished ....its a simply normal disaster ....!

[@donovandelaney3171]

The crew didn't survive the crash because the airplane didn't have impact absorbers. They're not springs.

[@rajankanwal4370]

​@@ImOnAJourney7.2 miles a second?

[@Warren-go5ij]

@@ImOnAJourney!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Warren-go5ij]

!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@romangrayjr]

​@@ImOnAJourney But I saw the Iron Man movies, and as long as he was in the suit he could smash into the ground at a zillion miles per hour, and just shake it off.

[@philbirk]

@@ImOnAJourney ​ What is the point of this? Somewhere around 80% of all aircraft accidents result in no fatalities. Those just don't make the news. No 737 flies at 500 mph. And even if they did it's not 7.2 miles per second. You are just making stuff up and you can't even add. If you were a grown up you'd know that you don't make any assumptions about whether people have survived. Better to assume that they are alive and be wrong and look for them in vain than to assume they are not and not look at all, and be wrong.

[@SkyWalker-sn8us]

Hi

[@Tahoe_Z71]

So why was Ron Brown's body found with a hole in his head? A hole from a .45?

[@julianmarshall2127]

😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@brianwhelan5382]

Part of the Clinton Body count!

[@lopikosmusic9354]

Couldn't have happened to a better bunch of people. RIP (p stands for piss)

[@huseman21]

p.s. Its supper annoying how mayday keeps repeating the same info over and over and over. the hour long video would last about 10 minutes if they dident do that.

[@Crewtoncare]

Turkey is the aim but it its to make it look like uk and usa it them doing it to them selfs

[@diegestive4167]

When i saw the clintons, i thought yep thats who's responsible.

[@donovandelaney3171]

Boeing Airlines is cursed.

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Not cursed. Just corrupt.

[@pejisan]

capitalism overtakes engineering - every time.

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@pejisan when there’s more plan crashes with China based airlines, who you gonna blame then, little edge lord?

[@cremebrulee4759]

Boeing isn't an airline. This flight had nothing to do with the airplane. The cause of the crash was incorrect navigation charts. Same thing would have happened if it had been an Airbus. Plus, when this happened, Boeing was still being run by engineers and they were taking safety seriously.

[@mr.k1611]

The White House is responsible. Take out your comp

[@kimchisgood2993]

Definitely Hillary Clinton know something …..

[@jaerockchalk3216]

ahh Ron Brown , part of the clinton body count 🤣

[@bee1-yr4hr]

There is only one safe aircraft

[@bee1-yr4hr]

The vision jet

[@vanzell1912]

The Mother Ship…..

[@shauny2285]

@@bee1-yr4hr The airplane that never leaves the ground.

[@ImOnAJourney]

@@shauny2285 I’m in that flight with you!

[@bergencounty6602]

They keep posting same videos

[@Warren-go5ij]

@@bergencounty6602 !!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hyperspaceexplorer5594]

The series only has some "few" videos to upload in context to daily/weekly/monthly uploads and the TV series itself. The YT channel will run out of uploads once they finish uploading all available videos of the series making this YT channel as inactive.

[@trawlins396]

So don't watch

[@trawlins396]

Stop complaining about FREE content

[@bergencounty6602]

@@trawlins396 I don't watch since I have already seen these videos. Is it your channel that you got offended by my comment?