I CANNOT STAND THESE YU-GI-OH! PET PEEVES

Sadly, I agree with the Pandleham take.
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[@aaronodst1174]

Poor rata, he'd be even more frustrated with those people than we are

[@TheGuyWhoIsSitting]

I’m pretty sure Rata has been like “I regret making that video”

[@GrieveIV]

@@TheGuyWhoIsSitting and that’s like, more than half of his videos. Still love em though

[@-emerald-1553]

@@TheGuyWhoIsSitting Seeing as how Rata was also the one who started the "It's Morbin Time" thing, I feel like he sees everything he makes as a curse at this point.

[@mkhcfire9684]

Rata consistently underestimates the power he has, when the speaks, the internet listens

[@GrieveIV]

@@mkhcfire9684 to be fair he also underestimates the general audience as a whole. I’m not sure I’d know any different as to what catches on and what doesn’t

[@trashheapian]

My sister used to riffle shuffle her deck at her MTG local, between that and being a woman she scored quite a few wins off psychological damage

[@dragoknighte48]

Based

[@hoodedman6579]

Was it really worth it though?

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

Your sister sounds like Mai Valentine lmao please get her to play Harpie's

[@beepbeeplettuce5890]

​@@Honest_Mids_Masher that's creepy AF dude

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

@@beepbeeplettuce5890 Mai Valentine used to cheat by using perfume to find out the cards in her deck and would deal psychological damage to the opponent's by doing so. You're the one interpreting it in a creepy way.

[@twigfur1747]

Something that annoys me, that I luckily don’t encounter often, are the people that play “meta” or high powered decks such as swordsoul, branded or kashtira and then get mad when they lose to a mid-tier rogue deck because the person playing it knows what they are doing. They try blaming it on a bricky hand or a misplay, no mate I was there you played the combo correctly and had the standard opening hand for your deck, don’t get frustrated just say GG and move on.

[@Kylora2112]

Had a guy at locals during Nekroz Tier 0 format that dumped cash on good cards and learned the combos, but had no idea how to actually play the deck. The last time we ever saw him was after I beat him with Infernoids to take first place. Everyone was like, "Dude, she's playing a Lightsworn engine with Ehren as a Djinn out and runs main deck boss monsters, you can't just sit on Clausolas or Unicore." Or the kid that was playing Qli and didn't know the exact wording of Lose 1 Turn and that it's a mandatory activation to put a special summoned monster into defense (I summoned Onuncu twice to banish Lose 1 Turn and blow up his Towers). My pet peeve is players who don't learn *exactly* what their cards do. It's not so bad if you don't know how a card from an archetype you don't play works, it's a whole other thing if you're not intimately familiar with every card in your deck.

[@twigfur1747]

@@Kylora2112 especially when they don't know even some of the simple interactions and that causes easily avoidable misplays. Makes the duel feel less worth it when I can tell my opponent isn't playing at their best.

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

@@Kylora2112 secrets of eter- nah I'm not doing this joke

[@MegaMegaSamX10]

Tbf I would say that door swings both way I have seen a lot of casual/rouge players get mad at meta decks so much and just go around saying "meta sheeps" "brainless" "unoriginal" and all that jazz

[@beo9057]

Oh god, the thumbnail gave me flashbacks to when I saw someone riffle shuffle an unsleeved Commander deck at a club meet. Still haunts me to this day

[@jewbacca5556]

Magic players are creatures

[@duelmasteryuya1205]

@@jewbacca5556 And Yugioh players are monsters 😈

[@MagiRemmie]

This is why I will never let a single person touch my deck. You can cut it but god forbid if I see you lifting it to shuffle.

[@leakypeach6250]

A 10-year-old riffle shuffled my deck at a recent locals, and he's lucky he was ten. Otherwise, we would've had a huge problem.

[@nicememe6180]

From near mint to lightly played in a single shuffle

[@CrimsoniteSP]

My pet peeve is when players talk down to me for playing bad decks. Ojama-ABC is my favorite deck of all time. I like bad decks because they're often a lot of fun and feel rewarding. However, one of the first times I ever interacted with the Yu-Gi-Oh community, not only was I called so many things but they couldn't wrap their heads around the fact I like the Ojama cards that I was given a link to a therapist near my area. They offered to pay for that therapy session.

[@EJsGameplay]

In this economy? Take them up on that shit.

[@CrimsoniteSP]

@@EJsGameplay Honestly, therapy does not help me, specifically. I've had my parents pay for 3 therapists and my highschool forced me into seeing another one, long story, and all 4 of them barely did anything. All they did was tell me things I already knew or suggest things that would make my family beat me to a pulp.

[@EJsGameplay]

@@CrimsoniteSP Then you tell your bullies that and be like "So can I play my Ojamas in peace now? I've got enough shit to deal with"

[@PhantomThiefXI]

i stopped playing irl because i was constantly mocked im poor i cant afford good decks i just wanted to have a good time

[@CrimsoniteSP]

@@EJsGameplay This was like a few years ago. I don't really interact with the community anymore. I hardly play Yu-Gi-Oh anymore. I don't like the current meta on Master Duel, Duel Links won't give me my 2nd and 3rd Ojamassimilation and my bad decks irl invoke so much hatred, if my town ever has a local scene to begin with.

[@TomFooleryPlusR]

As a Weather Painters player myself I relate so much to Layla's pet peeve. It was heartbreaking seeing all the Painters decklists running Skill Drain, Shifter, and... Mystic Mine...

[@maunabesanika]

They dont play weather painter dude, most of them play thunder canvas + skill drain turbo :(

[@Tokumastu1]

That's me when Dogmatika came out and it quickly devolved into Shaddoll Schism turbo guest staring Alistar. I finally get an archetype of religious zealots and for a brief moment thought I could play something resembling the Grey Knights of Warhammer 40k.

[@Linksoraluke1]

Weather Painter players unite It feels extra bad because it really just feels like the deck needs them to survive turn 2 (either after going first or going against an established board) and then after that you're golden and can just take the flood gate off the field Deck has lots of ways to put out varied interactions, just doesn't usually have *enough* so it's just floodgate + turbo to infinite omni-negate painter and thunder canvas

[@joanaguayoplanell4912]

Well, why not run Skill Drain when the deck can basically ignore it? Also, Shifter is cool, it's a strong handtrap but not broken.

[@Meme-pg5tw]

Looking online for decklists on a deck that looks interesting and seeing it all be stun decks or just running floodgates

[@four-en-tee]

I mean, you gotta consider that in MTG, they hate mill probably as much as we hate stun. And in Vanguard, we hate Link Joker (which is just Kashtira: the clan).

[@vgmaster02]

Ok, no, stopping you there. Messiah is excluded because Messiah just lock themselves and then unlock themselves plus your field on rare occasion just to gain big power. It's fucking CBD that we hate because he's the one that says "Yeah, I'm just gonna lock out all your rears, so good luck playing the game now." CBD is who we hate. Messiah is the cool one that can stay (and Orfist, because we like better balanced CBD's cousin)

[@ryanchase9332]

MTG really only hates fast combo decks (or hand control/rack strats).

[@vgmaster02]

@@ryanchase9332 ...they also hate a proxy-only set that costs a thousand just for four packs XD OOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! XDDD

[@ogeid772]

@@vgmaster02 i mean, from what i know, Messiah tries to use the lock mechanic in fun and interesting ways, which is exactly why it gets this pass, because its almost Link Joker in name only

[@krullachief669]

@@vgmaster02 I mean, yeah? Dunno what the joke there is, really it's more just depressing.

[@GleamingGarmore]

2:36 I like to ask “What does that do? Can I read it?” Which means I get to skim the card AND my opponent has the opportunity to explain it to me so we can keep things moving.

[@clutchedbyanangel]

I'll read it first and then ask what it does, because like, yeah there's text, but which parts are relevant and important. Sometimes the wordiest clauses literally never come up.

[@Dominator150395]

I prefer to ask "what does it do" because Yugioh cards have mucho texto in the tiniest font possible, and the eye strain really gets to me after 4 rounds. But I also ask specific questions. If I wanna know what the whole card does, I'll just ask to read it. Otherwise I'll ask stuff like "what does this particular effect do" when the opponent activates an effect, or "what quick effects do you have" when it's my turn and they finished setting up their board.

[@MrMaddog994]

I once had a guy at locals point at Blackbeard 4 times in one turn and ask the same question, once when I summoned it back with Booty, once when I used the effect, once when I equipped it, and once when lys shuffle it back. Let’s just say that I lost in time that game…

[@kagemushashien8394]

Time should pause when you ask what does it do.

[@clutchedbyanangel]

@@kagemushashien8394 Unfortunately, in a tournament setting, everyone is playing on the same clock. You can't ask every other player in the venue to pause to accommodate your duel.

[@lokitired3751]

My pet peeve is when players talk down to me or get salty if I win a game with my pet deck vs their meta deck. My Alien deck is so fun to play and it always makes me happy when I manage to get wins with it and when players get salty or trash talk my archetype it really ruins the mood. I like my deck because its fun trying to optimise it and make it even better every time I do lose and watching it win after those fails feels really rewarding.

[@animegx45]

If you want to intentionally piss them off, then beating a meta deck with a pet deck is the most perfect situation where you can reply by saying "skill issue".

[@lokitired3751]

@@animegx45 ahaha maybe lol

[@vxicepickxv]

I do love me some Snake Rain Chaos Turbo featuring BLS.

[@Silent1fd]

When I play Fluffals, when I get a win it's always met with rage.

[@AlphaSquadZero]

Do you run the most powerful alien of them all in your pet deck, Gorz?

[@olliezoop]

There's this one dude who used to come to locals all the time who riffled his deck every time he searched something and it caused me physical pain

[@TheRamblemanWhoSings]

maybe those people do it on purpose & because as the twitter reply said "serial killers"

[@someguy2117]

How else are you supposed to shuffle? I thought riffling Is normal? How do people shuffle cards now?

[@DamienLacadamien]

I've played pokemon tcg for a bit and I've noticed players riffle and bridge when they shuffle too. I mostly see the kids that do it, but some adults as well. Maybe it's because the cards are thicker imo than yugioh but it hurt me a lot when I saw it.

[@TheRamblemanWhoSings]

@@someguy2117 I thought that they split deck in half & just mush them together

[@dragonstwilight6389]

@@someguy2117 we mostly do what the guy above me said. Once you get to a point of card price/expense, rifflimg the deck is a no go, since you have a really high chance of damaging the expensive cards, which typically you don't wanna do.

[@CommanderWar64]

It’s a pet peeve of mine when people just immediately dismiss cards not played in the best 3 decks. I was talking to people at my locals about Dogmatikatrix and how it’s genuinely a crazy card, but they’re reaction is basically: that’s not a Kashtira card. I’m not even a rogue deck player, I played Tear last format. Trix is a great search target off Ecclesia if you get Nibiru’d or Bystial’d when you have your Cartesia fusion out or when you go second.

[@amiablereaper]

Especially because branded dog might actually be a good build in the current meta. Like honestly I don't think Kash is the best deck even with tear spright and floo nerfed, that all just means it's back to branded lmao

[@jdamourep]

Those people might not genuinely like the game. You can acknowledge how interesting, and pushed a card is because it sets a precedent for other cards/decks in the future.

[@bloodfallenevileye5688]

Honestly one of my biggest pet peeves is the loss of identity in decks, seeing a cool archetype being played and then wondering what kind of boss monsters the archetype has just to get hit with Savage and Friends always irks me. Sometimes its also a case like Guru Control where its Floodgate Turbo with exactly 2 subterror cards when Guru isnt even the focus of the actual archetype at all! Thankfully the former issue has been kind of resolved with the banning of halq and verte, two big offenders for such cases

[@amiablereaper]

Verte in particular is really frustrating because it takes bosses with very particular materials and archetypes and then just makes them generic bosses any deck can summon. Rainbow Neos, REDD, and DPE could have been really cool and flavorful support for classic archetypes... but instead they're all a link 2 with some deck building restrictions

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

Infernity :(

[@KaiserTheDarkWolf]

For some reason i did read your full post, just need to go to "boss monters" and i knew you will talk about sub-terror stuff XD

[@Unyubaby]

Literally had this today looking for Melffy decks to get ideas from. Kept finding "amazing top tier melffy decks" that was just 2-3 melffy cards and then just a spright or tri-brigade deck slapped on top with the grab-bag of "staples". If I wanna play an archetype, I want to play that archetype why do people keep shoving the same 20-30 cards into everything.

[@krullachief669]

"When was the last time you ever saw funions in the store?" Like, this morning. They're gas station and dollar store chips.

[@stupido-um4xo]

Honestly my biggest pet peeve with yugioh is...when I have absolutely nothing to defend myself no backrow no nothing...and my opponent feels the need to go full combo on me when just skipping to the battle phase would end it.

[@Ragnarok540]

Depending on the situation you can just surrender, but if it's game one or two you can let them cook to gather information on their deck.

[@TheRoseReaper]

I feel this especially when I have an empty board and hand my opponent still feels the need to combo off.

[@Lira_orpheus]

Not as big of a deal in the TCG, you can surrender at any time, but I suffer it in Master Duel. I don't want to surrender, I still want the small rewards after the duel.

[@Dinsho_]

It’s probably just for practice since you don’t get to combo freely often so if they get the chance one time they won’t mess up

[@frankwest5388]

When I am in that position I just ask my opponent if they are ok with me flexing or if I should just go for game

[@wraith.ferron]

"Imagine if Magic had a card that stopped you from using creatures' abilities" Humility, Dress Down, Polymorphist's Jest... I mean, Humility was printed in Tempest in 1997.

[@Metallicity]

Yeah, the real issue is that nearly every spell/trap in Yugioh can be activated before your opponent's first battle phase and don't really hinder your development at all (beyond the fact that it's a card that could've been some other card), while in Magic these cards actually cost mana, generally taking up your entire turn to deploy in the early game, or even putting you down cards if you're trying to cheat them out ahead of curve. This mean it will generally take 3+ turns after that to actually finish the game, even with strong followup threats, so the other player has time to dig out of it. Unlike with Yugioh, where if you stumble for a single turn, you know you're likely dead on the crack back.

[@cascada5200]

Lets rephrase it to make more sense why it's so hated. "Imagine if Magic had a card that stopped you from using creatures' abilities for 0 mana and 3 LP"

[@jamismiscreant7514]

And another one that did the same thing and stopped attacks

[@Sassaparilla]

@@cascada5200 "Pay Phyrexian, this ain't a charity"

[@TheChaoticDerp]

Blood Moon is a classic "you can't play anymore" for many decks.

[@TheLawYGO]

Mom, look! Dire didn’t cut my submission read this time!

[@luminous3558]

I feel like yugioh has a really big amount of casual elitists who get extremely mad if you play a meta deck which often is any deck higher rated than tier 8. "Uh the game is so easy so I don't use staples and play only pure ghostrick" The idea that meta decks somehow take little to no skill is also very common with these people. Play what you want but don't let powerlevel dictate what you allow yourself and others to enjoy. I like a lot of rogue decks but if a deck I like ends up meta I ain't suddenly dropping that just because its too good.

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Lemme correct you on this one thing: *all* Ghostrick players run staples (yes, all 3 of us). I got called on it once and literally just said "of course I am, I'm playing _GHOSTRICKS_ and I want to pretend that I have a chance".

[@MerlinCross13]

Look I ask "What does that card do" because I don't know what the card does, I haven't memorized every card in the game. ...Oh and some people get real defensive about me touching their cards at times so I've just found it easier to ask them what it does than fight them on "May I read it".

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

I had a problem player at some M:tG tournaments who _exclusively_ used Asian-language cards (Japanese, Chinese, some Korean) and would get mad butthurt when people asked what a card did. Had a guy scream in his face, verbatim, "I can't 'read the fucking card!' cocksucker, I don't know that language! Stop being a goddamned hipster if you're just gonna be a dick about it!" because he'd rocked up with a deck full of Korean _Theros_ cards the day the set officially released.

[@BoBnfishy]

I think one of the big things with stun is that a lot of decks aren't able to run enough outs to a wall of floodgates because if they devote heavy main deck space to it they just get steamrolled by combo decks. There really isn't much room for stuff like twisters or whatever in the main like there was 5 or 6 years ago

[@Kylora2112]

And to add, if they draw 2-3 floodgates, they can basically lock you out from playing a single card. Oh, you opened Naturia Beast and Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror? Good job beating my Lunalight deck because I can't do a goddamn thing if I didn't draw Imperm lol

[@ashikjaman1940]

One time in Master Duel I remember dealing with 2 Skill Drains on consecutive turns but on the third turn the guy just flipped a third one and I had no outs left

[@TheDeadGunslinger]

One time I was at a MTG tourny, and I saw a guy stand up and knock his opponent out. turns out the opponent had riffle shuffled his deck.. his $1100 Modern deck.. it was funny.

[@Th-ch5ez]

Falcon Pawnch!!

[@sambrown9475]

6:07 I love your take here. As a magic player myself, it definitely isn't fun sitting across from a control/prison deck. But it feels amazing to actually win against those types of decks. Plus Imho it actually makes you a better player. It makes you consider your lines more seriously.

[@randomguy019]

I can't remember what subreddit it was, but that first pet peeve about people reiterating a joke constantly, even after it's gotten stale, reminded me of a long post saying there are like two kinds of people who enjoy memes on the internet: one who likes it as a joke to laugh at, and one that see it as a point of community cohesion & personal identification. The latter are constantly telling stale memes outside of the original context that made them funny in the first place. Because the point of the joke is not just to simply have a laugh, but a funny note that identifies you as a member of the community to other members. You tell a well-worn Rata joke not because you expect it to be as funny as when Rata told it, but to identify yourself as a Yugioh Player to other Yugioh Players so they will welcome you.

[@adamata64]

"Text didn't change since the last time you read it." Okay but that's legit hilarious.

[@kroffen7]

Goes for any game but "Try-hardy casuals" They’ll scream at you for just playing a tier 1 deck with good staples, not even dueling them. But they have HONOR for playing their Speedroid deck without the link, because links are evil and they’re not a toxic elitist who plays meta! While trying to guilt you into "their meta".

[@orga7777]

I have come to the honest conclusion that casual players are significantly more toxic than people who enjoy meta, on average.

[@youtube-kit9450]

@@orga7777 Funny, wrote that as well. And while I don't play many multiplayer vs. games, but if we remove the usual bigoted shit people spew online, yugioh is the only one I play where the casual playerbase is way, way more toxic than people who play competitively

[@orga7777]

@@youtube-kit9450 It is because they are mad that their pet deck isn't good. It literally comes down to that. Even to this day you can boot up EDO and see "no hand traps" or whatever in notes. Personally, all those people should really just play older formats like Goat or Edison or something. I don't even know what to tell them.

[@kroffen7]

@@orga7777 Yeah it's like, you go enjoy the game how you wanna, I am gonna sit here, activate Branded Fusion and curse under my breath as Ash comes down! :p We CAN exist seperately!

[@iamabucket13]

I'm fine with Pendulums as they are now, but they were absolutely a jump-the-shark moment for Yu-Gi-Oh. Fusions were "use spell card or effect to turn 2+ monsters into big monster." Synchros were "use Tuner and 1+ non-tuner, add levels to the Synchro's level." Xyz was "put cards of same level on top of each other then the Xyz on that, the original cards may be detached for effects." For Pendulums, you need to remember: -There's 2 effects, one as a monster, one as a spell. -Playing as a spell is restricted to specific zones. -While played as a spell, it is treated as a spell, but not treated as a Normal, Field, Continuous, Ritual, or Quick-Play Spell. You can’t play another Pendulum monster in the Pendulum zone a Pendulum monster is already occupying (like Continuous, unlike Field). -Putting Pendulums in the pendulum zones means once per turn you can Pendulum Summon monsters from your hand between the scale number on each Pendulum on the field (non-inclusive). -There has never been a Pendulum monster with 2 different scales printed but the possibility still exists and it may matter what zone it's in but right now it doesn't. -A Pendulum monster on the field that would go to the GY goes face-up in the extra deck instead, which means you can't use them as cost if the cost requires sending to the GY. -When you Pendulum Summon, you can summon Pendulum monsters from the face-up extra deck to the extra monster zone or a monster zone a Link monster is pointing to. When doing this, if you would summon an Xyz Pendulum, you use the material requirements for the Xyz summon as its "level". -Fusion Pendulums, Synchro Pendulums, and Xyz Pendulums face-up in the extra deck cannot be summoned using Fusion, Synchro, and Xyz summoning respectively, and can only be Pendulum Summoned if properly summoned previously.

[@dhanyl2725]

We have sword of revealing light for the face-up but not continuous argument tho... Also setting up for a pendulum summon is a -2 unless the scales have good effects (especially back then when the game's pace wasn't as fast as after the revised mr4). Even pendulum decks that were meta back then were only a few...

[@teddi6909]

I know now since cardtext already refrence it, it is unfixable. But why couldn't pendulums just go to the GY? Besides ANIME LORE I can't see why they couldn't just Pend summon themselfs from the GY. Would've made them about 40% more comprehensible.

[@theermac6024]

@@teddi6909 these are my thoughts as probably to why: 1-limiting "send to gy" costs 2-Xyz Material pendulums do still go to gy (Xyz was the main previous summoning mechanic so it was really good) 3- limiting support. If pendulums had access to every gy tool every other deck had, they would be actually busted 4-differenciating what you can/'t pendulum summon that is not in your hand easier (mechanic is already complicated enough)

[@dhanyl2725]

@@teddi6909 The concept was probably an extra deck monster that's also a main deck monster

[@xdevo14]

There's also an assload of strange edge cases (some of which stopped being edge cases because of intentional design in the era). When a pendulum in the pendulum zone is destroyed, why does the monster floating effect activate? What happens if a pendulum card is destroyed while Macro Cosmos is on the field? Why do pendulum cards go to the graveyard if they were XYZs material? What properties of the monster does a pendulum card keep if its in the pendulum zone (level, type, attribute, name)? Why are pendulums never treated as spells except exactly when they're in the pendulum zone? Some of the answers make sense if you know other relatively obscure rulings (XYZs materials aren't "on the field", Trap and spell monsters return to just being traps or spells in the graveyard), but pendulums are just such a massive "exception to prior and future mechanics" in so many ways that they're just exceedingly difficult to explain to newer players, and even older players will get tripped up on some of the edge cases or the way the mechanics interact with individual cards. The whole "there's only been a few good decks" argument also makes no sense to me, Pepe in some incarnation went in and out of play for about 2-3 years, Pend ftk (and the non-ftk version of the same thing) was in an out for about the same, and pendulum cards were splashed in a variety of different decks (Lunalights - orcust, predaplants - branded, etc), enough that not knowing the mechanics well could easily lead to a bad play or loss.

[@createrz8433]

I remember during locals we had this guy that didn't really know the dos and don'ts of yugioh. He was pretty friendly but I don't think he knew entirely what was going on. Anyway he mentions his roommate or equivalent had a box full of cards that he doesnt want anymore so he gives it to the guy, and what does this guy do but just shove all of the cards into his backpack to show it off to everyone at locals. Just a conglomerate of unsleeved old cards. The borderless secret rare magical musketeer starfire still haunts my dreams to this day. It got even worse when he pulled ultimate rares from ots packs and threw them in their as well. Poor AA-Zeus

[@Dominator150395]

And nobody told him not to do it? 'Cause first time I ever went to a local I was riffling my deck, and the first guy who saw me doing that instantly told me I shouldn't do that 'cause I'd damage my carss.

[@createrz8433]

@@Dominator150395 @@Dominator150395 everyone didnt wanna be rude to the guy and in the past a handful of people had already convinced him to sleeve up his deck before dueling. We all got the impression he wanted his cards that way so we didnt say anything, but in the background we were all malding and crying about his backpack cards.

[@bolobre4th]

As a judge, if i ever see someone riffle shuffling their cards i will cordially escort them out of the store. And lucky them i'm not calling the police this is literally terrorism

[@EJsGameplay]

It's reactions like these that keep me doing it.

[@orga7777]

@@EJsGameplay You like damaging other people's property like a little a-hole?

[@EJsGameplay]

@@orga7777 No? I only do that to my cards. "someone riffle shuffling their cards" Didn't read this as meaning touching anyone else's stuff, most times I don't even cut honestly.

[@orga7777]

@@EJsGameplay Oh. Then that is fair game.

[@fatman18k63]

My biggest pet peeve is when players do the constant fast paced loud af hand shuffling. Like dude, i'm playing Vampires, not Ominous Fortunetelling Burn.

[@Galavantworks]

I felt that floodgate turbo comment. It’s even worse when niche archetypes get a needed monster(s) who end up being poster child for meta staple decks, simply because Konami made their materials generic.

[@EinDose]

Remember every other Crystron? Yeah, I've never seen a single one either.

[@cerberos1]

A few weeks ago I was building Metalfoes on Master duel and realized "Oh yeah Electrumite is actually part of that archetype that's crazy !"

[@DrAiPatch]

It's even worst when they work better in other archetypes than their own........ Like verte anaconda.

[@Galavantworks]

@@DrAiPatch I often forget that it has Predaplant in its name

[@bl00by_]

@@EinDose Crystron Rosenix is in shambles rn

[@NAAAAAIL]

5:40 dead ass had a kid at this college group "call me out" bc we both played blue eyes, but he played "kaiba rper" blue eyes and I played regular blue eyes w rank 8 plays and he got so heated that I had numeron dragon otk lines and said "Im still the better blue eyes player bc my deck is more true to it" or somethin dumb like that. like my guy I am sorry Lord of D (not even the retrain) is a penis card.

[@cherrychocolate1434]

5:16 Literally in the store I work at. Sometimes I'll just buy a bag of Funions and eat the whole thing while I'm on break. Those things are REALLY good still, god tier chip.

[@literallyjustforplugdj]

You don't have to play yugioh to be a yugioh player. look at the persona fanbase. 99% of them have never played a persona game.

[@otterfire4712]

Stun in Yugioh is more easily set up and established compared to stun in other games due to a lack of resources like mana, energy, lands, etc to give a timer before they become active. This timer also gives opponents the chance to gather resources for a response whether removal or counter. A lot of stun in MtG is more of a taxing effect where you can still play the card, just at the cost of extra mana or life. Dragon Ball Super's card game has one turn floodgates that fill a similar role to MtG's stun cards, where the opponent pays a cost to advance for the rest of the turn. DBS has a couple cards that also effectively shut down attacking altogether, but they typically come at a great cost in hand advantage.

[@Kylora2112]

Yeah. Like, sick, you drew 3 different floodgates that make it so I can't activate a single card effect even if I draw my outs. There's a guy at my locals that plays the new Naturia stuff, and it's like I need to open Sphere Mode be able to do anything.

[@troy242621]

The big thing is the mana cost. You can't just drop Ensnaring bridge turn 1, it's at risk of being thoughtseized, inquisitioned, countered or them drawing an out before it lands. Mine can just come down instantly and you're fucked. Not to mention, mtg decks usually run these tools *maindeck*. In YGO, maindeck non-monster backrow removal isn't super common.

[@NLABRAiNiAC]

I feel that comment about decks getting reduced to vessels for Floodgates or similar; i've been a a Sky Striker player for a while now, and I really like the way the deck plays; I like that I don't have to combo off forever, but every choice I make matters, I gotta pick the best option for the situation and if I make a correct read, it wins me the whole game. Its really satisfying to play. But for so long people would just roll their eyes and complain about Mystic Mine the second they saw a Raye. I'm not playing it, its so boring, and i'd rather lose than be bored, but Sky Striker just seemed to become synonymous with mine, and I disliked it.

[@shifra7643]

So picture this; I'm at locals playing one of pet decks (Evilswarm) an I get matched up against anti-meta stun- the person piloting the deck is known at our locals to be a dick to everyone whether winning or losing. I lose the match (2-1) an say Gg an wish him the best of luck to him on his next match. He looks at me like I just kicked a puppy an says; "what'd your deck even do?- why come to locals if your not even going to try an play the game" Its not like I scooped immediately, I played through the game despite being neck deep in floodgates so I had no clue as to why he said this an I just found it extremely aggravating the more I thought of it an still do.

[@jeremymcbride]

ironically Ophion is a big F U to Ka$h this format lol, sounds like fun

[@shifra7643]

@@jeremymcbride Ophion is the best :3 I actually didn't know he had a floodgate effect until about 3 weeks after i was already playing the deck.

[@AnRuixuan]

Honestly inconsequential in the grand scheme of things, but my only real Yugioh pet peeve is using fan translations after the official names have been revealed/released. Sometimes it doesn't really matter bc it's like 1 letter off (Spright vs Splight) but sometimes it could be legitimately confusing for new players (Halqifibrax vs Needlefiber). To me it gives off very hipster vibes, like "I knew this card before it was even available".

[@TheLetterJ0]

Even more annoying is when people complain about Konami "changing the name" in those situations. Yeah, I agree that Abhyss was a better name than Ogdoadic, but it was never an official name.

[@alisethera9349]

Related is that I hate when players make a complait that literally just based on an assumption because they weren’t around when it was relavent. Like players complaining that they changed the name of “Toadally Awsome” from “Treatoad”. When that was never the official name and most TCG players wouldn’t recognize Toad as a mochi stack. Or when someone complains that Branded Fusion doesn’t have a restriction since “Branded Despia doesn’t play non-fusions anyway”. Actual backwards logic since they weren’t playing TCG when Branded Fusion came out. Finally when I’ve seen too many Master Duel players complain about sending instead of destroying. “Send to GY is blantly invented just to get past destruction protection.” When Chaos Emporer Dragon did the same thing.

[@Realblack_m0nster]

If the name sounds better to me I'll use that. I'll say Kushatri la Shangri la over the official name. You can sue me. To me this pet peeve is equivalent to people complaining about "tomaito" Vs "tomahto"

[@jumpiestaman100]

@@Realblack_m0nsterPretty sure the naming is Sha-Tree-La though, like the K is probably silent.

[@mateusrp1994]

The specifc case of Halq is a weird one, because the card took **3 years** to be imported and to receive an official localized name. He existed as Needlefiber for longer than he was legal as Halqfibrax in the TCG. I eventually got used to call him Halq but I understand if other people didn't.

[@CErra310]

I dig the last point. Sky Striker is a cool deck both mechanically and aesthetically. I don't want to have to rely on Accesscode Talker

[@amiablereaper]

One of the cool things about the halq ban (at least in md) and the release of linkage is that the deck is actually a lot less reliant on ACT to end games. The empty board linkage otk is obviously a fun highroll, but on turn 4-6 where your opponent has run low on resources and taken a few hits from Hayate, you can easily get Roze on the grave and attack-linkage Kagari targeting linkage-linkage shizuku/kaina/etc and just beat them down for the same or better damage that ACT could have done, on the same turn it would come down. The halq ban also makes the ACT like a lot less reliable, since you can't control what's in your opponent's GY. So it's more just a great option to go into sometimes, when your opponent has left themselves open to it. Otherwise you just keep throwing girls at them until they fall over.

[@TheRJB0]

People touching my goddamn stuff without permission. Yeah you have a right to see my gy contents, but there are still better ways than grabbing my cards. And don't get me started on people who do this when they're not even in the duel!

[@MrNovascar]

My pet peeves is when people complain about their card getting banned and their deck doesn't work anymore. Then you ask how the new list even affected their table500 deck and they answer with archnemesis Protos, Union hanger, colossus or recently toad. If your deck is nothing without floodgate access, then you don't deserve it

[@amiablereaper]

I'm gonna to be honest, my heart kinda sank when I found out the best thing ppl were doing with cyberdarks was Union Buster+their bundle of archetypal omni-negates. It's a real shame because the deck actually really wants a card to equip other cards to their monsters, but just doing Scythe Lock At Home is kind of a shame IMO.

[@vincevodka9679]

My pet peeve is when a certain archetype gets some great support that helps them become actually playable in what they want to do, but people would instead do something else with only those new support pieces because "it's better that way" which, sometimes, is not. Case in point, whenever I see modern Morphtronic decklists that are either Telefon link climb or a shitty FTK, I want to punch those people in the face and then die.

[@gatocochino5594]

That's a terrible example because Telefon link climb is the best way of playing Morphtronics currently.

[@bakeneko3993]

I get what you are saying BUT... how is Telefon climb worse than what a normal Morphtronic could do?

[@vincevodka9679]

@@bakeneko3993 well tbf I was a bit harsh towards Telefon Link Climb, I don't mind it as much but feels really shitty they focus on that rather than the synchro toolbox variant. I should have worded my comment better lol

[@gryffin2983]

Oh my gosh! The Doritos brought back some serious PTSD. A new guy we had never met before came to locals one weekend. We were all making small talk before round one, etc. Round one was called, and I was paired against the new guy. Between the small talk and round one, at some point, this guy was half way in a bag of Cheeto puffs. Dusty. Ass. Puffs. He was trying to hold his cards, draw, and play with one hand while the other hand was perpetually in this bag. When that was too much, he would grab his own cards with his Cheetos hand and play them! He brazenly, ACTUALLY attempted to reach for my cards to read them with licked, wet, cheesy salad fingers. My subconscious kicked in. I panicked. I pulled the card away and said. “Uhh can you go wash your hands please?”. He looked at me like I had just asked him to put a hit out on his own mother! He said he would after he finished the round bc he thought someone might steal his stuff if he got up. I’ve never had so much will to win so fast. Afterwards I warned all my friends to watch out for him bc he was eating MORE chips throughout and day and was doing the same thing in other rounds. Lord, please protect those sleeves from grease and dust. Amen

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

I can literally see the image in my head if this and it's beautiful and terrifying good lord I hope you're doing ok lmao.

[@gryffin2983]

@Brotally Swagical it was wild! 😂 he’s come around a few times over the years after that, and we hope we don’t get paired up against him bc he still does the same thing to this day.

[@VanitysRuler]

oh man im finally in this one and its for my PEND TAKE but I do think MBT gave me some actual good perspective because I think I am very skewed in how I learned the competitively through Pendulum exactly

[@bloodytyran9245]

My personal pet peeves: it’s fine to play boring/weak/meta/etc deck if it’s the one you got a Royal Finish cards for.

[@f687sNFM]

my biggest pet peeves is when people try to make you play at their rules/pace. if you constantly search your deck they threaten to call judge on you. another example is once the coin toss is set, and you and your opponent drew your starting hand, but the locals judge forgot to start timer on screen (but still calls it vocally), and everyone else is already playing but your opponent tells you that you cant look at your cards or else you have to mulligan and they threaten judge if you refuse. This is literally one guy at locals, and he plays ishizu tear (tear 0 format for those in the future) Edit: seeing one of them reminds me that same guy also plays so fast that he gets irritated if you try to chain a response

[@classymofo1059]

The problem with floodgates in Yugioh vs MTG is that in magic, you have both various ways of dealing with floodgates, AND can afford to wait until you get those answers. If a floodgate in yugioh stops you from playing for 1 turn, you probably already lost. Yugioh doesn't have the same answers for floodgates that mtg has. For example, if torpor orb (negate monster effects that enter the battlefield) was running rampant in a meta, since it's an artifact, there are various cards that destroy artifacts while also progressing your own boardstate. Or, the removal is diverse, where if you don't run into a torpor orb, that same card you would use to remove the torpor orb can be used to remove a creature or enchantment in other match ups. This does not exist in yugioh at a playable competitive level. There isn't a card that reads "Choose one- you can MST, Or you gain an additional normal summon this turn, or you can have all your monsters gain 500 ATK until end of turn." Whereas there are tons of magic cards that do stuff like this. We have TTT for problematic monsters or handtraps, but it can't deal with TCBOO.

[@youtube-kit9450]

I mean, we would have cards that deal with it like lightning storm, harpie's feather duster or heavy storm, it's just that duster is limited and storm is banned. We'd have answers, but Konami insists on limiting/banning them immediately.

[@waltercardcollector]

Here's my Yugioh pet peeve: When Xyz monsters came out in summer 2011, they announced that "Xyz" was pronounced like "ik-seez." It's almost 13 years later, and people *still* pronounce it like "X-Y-Z!"

[@davinogarcia5665]

Joseph is PISSED about that one ass, it has been 8 years my friend. Don't be an ass to Joseph, he will remember, and you better RUN

[@mattbaltimore7195]

0:13 Ah, Johnny Bravo.... That one cartoon i hope that never gets rebooted for modern sensibilities....

[@McHaven07]

i forgot i found mbt at the start of the pandemic, thus NOT going to his law school, lol. i hope he manages to find a good balance, i would hate for him to burn out and jillian deserves to see her husband from time to time, too

[@noisepollution4473]

You didn't actually read any of these that I saw you scroll through in this edit, which I appreciate: People being mad at slow play is legitimately what is making me afraid to actually play with other people and learn the game properly. Right now I only ever play solo duels on Master Duel or against my sibling because I have to read every single card that is played, including my own, and it takes me a lot of time to try to come up with any line, even the most basic ones. It's extremely intimidating to try to come into this game that is already hard to learn when you also know that people hate playing against you. I'm trying to really, really learn my decks before I ever touch ladder or even play the events because this makes me so anxious. (I know, they're strangers online who can't even text chat with me, but my anxiety is irrational and I can't really make it stop.) I imagine the people posting those takes weren't actually directing that energy towards new players and don't intend to push anyone away. They probably just are frustrated playing on ladder against people who they know aren't new. But it still definitely makes me afraid to dive in and learn the game through the trial by fire of actually playing it.

[@Closer2Zero]

When the game is so fast, so expensive, and so ‘turbo buy my new shit players’- can you really blame me for playing stun? If i cant $afford$ to go at your pace, then i need to slow you down to mine

[@frankwest5388]

My PP are centralizing cards. You know the ones, those that are so good and generic that all more specific options become basically useless. Like how every xyz deck is basically just Zeus turbo nowadays, because it’s just better than the alternative

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

Zeus is a bad example a better one would be Barrone de fleur and Borreload Savage. Zeus is a backup plan for when you need to reset the board when you're in a disadvantage

[@frankwest5388]

@@Honest_Mids_Masher probably. I don’t think we will ever get another playable lvl 10 synchro as long as baroness continues to exist. At best niche options like the sword soul ones, but even then those rarely are part of the gameplan and more of an adaptable flex spot

[@danieltaylor4185]

1:29 - The number of people that take locals way too seriously was way too high last I played. It was a while ago so hopefully it's gotten better. But I had so many people who get so frustrated losing to some rogue tier BS I cooked up, they themselves also playing some rogue tier BS, they just lose it. I have seen a bunch of people just slam their hands on the table, pack up their stuff, and drop from the tournament because they lost to like... Ghostricks, or some random Karakuri deck long after they were even close to relevant. It's usually in Swiss, so I know they usually have at least one loss before we get to the table slam, but it happens way too often. It's not every time - but there really isn't an excuse for that kind of behavior. Not even the children that play get that angry and behave like that.

[@DreZato12]

i wish the TCG had a similar ban/limited list to duel links so rouge decks could run playmakers like Haq as long as your not running something degenerate to go into.

[@LocalCatgirl0689]

I didn’t see the tweet in time, but a big one for me is when you ask for deck advice and get told to play something else

[@Banunkie]

My biggest pet peeve is when people spend however much on a meta deck and get pissy when they lose to your rogue tier deck because they don't understand how their own deck works. It annoys me to no end when people buy meta decks thinking it'll just magically make them good at the game then they get their ass beat by fuckin Sky Scourge cause they don't understand their own deck and just ignore whatever you're doing.

[@ownagemester]

Look, I know every Mecha-Phantom Beast card besides Auroadon and Draco sack are bad, but I love this archetype! I can't get enough of these token spamming Wind Machines! They all look so cool!

[@Heyhowsitgoin999]

Dont forget O-Lion

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

Make sure to say "suck my dracosacks" when you win

[@Mazukotachi]

As a Weather Painter player who uses D Shifter + Droll as a Small World Bridge to Snow, I can confirm it is kinda difficult to steal games without Skill Drain or Anti-Spell + Rainy Canvas

[@ediblemandibles]

RE: People complaining about staples I literally saw people complaining about everyone playing the same sets of cards (i.e. Ash and Maxx "C", since this was an MD video) in their decks and even saying that everyone just runs the same lists. First of all, welcome to Yu-Gi-Oh! (or any TCG), it's been this way since literally forever. Second of all, tell me you're not part of the competitive community without telling me you're not part of the competitive community. People are constantly TCing the top-tier decks and bringing innovation to the decks. Such as Branded Despia in Adventure format when people realised "Oh, I can't Aluber for Branded Fusion if I use Rite (and vice versa)" and exchanged the Adventure Engine and handtraps for pure gas. My biggest pet peeve is players complaining about meta. Even The Duel Logs has been given shit for playing singular "meta" cards (Eldlich in Mayakashi) or for daring to play Runic for a few games. His chat is a constant stream of "wah meta". I don't hate casual players; but, fuck me, casual players in every god damn game I play are trying their hardest to make me hate them.

[@youtube-kit9450]

Remember that those same people often play goat format or something, where it's literally staple city.

[@icemarvel0791]

4:55 at my locals were right in a food plaza and it start at 1:00am so there a mostly unspoken gentlemen rule we have where your allowed to eat if your opponent playing without you haveing responses.

[@sun332s7]

“Cause you beat a blue-eyes white dragon opponent” I’ve been called out

[@Blackgamer_20]

I really got one when someone pick up your cards in the middle of the game or look into your deck to see what your next draw is like plz don’t touch my shit stop plz also when they think they know what gonna happen especially new players

[@Ragnarok540]

Control decks can be fun, as long as they don't rely 100% on floodgates. To win with these decks you have to understand how your opponent's deck works better than them. I have hope for Labrynth with the future support in master duel. Again, no floodgates, except for bagooska maybe, because special summoning it from the graveyard during the opponent's turn with the field spell is the funniest interaction.

[@FakeHeroFang]

I feel like Labrynth and set 5 floodgates pass are entirely different decks. Actual control decks still have to play the game, a floodgate deck just sits there until they cheese you to death with burn damage or something, or the opponent draws the out and finally pushes through.

[@EinDose]

Runick's right up this alley (admittedly by a weird definition of control), and I think has an interesting interaction with Skill Drain as a floodgate, where THEY don't want it either; their search and protection effects are hugely important to them, so they have to be really careful about playing it. Rivalry/Gozen/TCBOO are almost disappointingly strong in comparison, but you still want to be careful about overloading on them, since they take up backrow spots you'll really want and most decks only choke on like, one of them TOPS.

[@ainred9844]

WAIT A MINUTE, I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT INTERACTION BEFORE FUCK. Bagoos is a fiend? Holy shit

[@Sassaparilla]

Traptrix and Labrynth, the people's stun deck.

[@Keisuki]

Some of the most fun games I've ever had in master duel are surprisingly, against Eldlich. Control vs Control (I was on Melffy), as we both have to use our resources extremely efficiently to try to outlast the opponent. Buuuuut if Eldlich draws 2 floodgates in their opening hand, I just lose :( There's an alternative universe where floodgates aren't nearly as strong, and combos can't go off, and lots of people are playing interactive control decks, and I think the players in that universe have a lot more fun playing yugioh

[@ArteFurlong]

like that halq comment cut into me hard cause like two of my favorite decks is PUNK and Adamancipator cause they cool lines with interesting end boards but at best it done with the ONE COMBO you've seen before cause it's optimal.

[@Drowzzzzz]

I honestly really like the Twitter threads even when they’re not the most tcg oriented since there’s just so much personality in then

[@DrAiPatch]

My biggest pet peeve was when people would gloat about how good their build of [insert low-power deck] was when their main win con was sitting on Dragoon/DPE. Like no dude that's just Dragoon/ DPE turbo that just do happens to have other things in it. I don't mind people using them its just weird to me that when your Dragoon/DPE gets folded you insta surrender. Lucky we don't seem them too much anymore........ I guess Code talker is a version of them but I feel less bad about them since it takes a 4 card investment.

[@AussieRiolu447]

One of mine is when my opponent takes like a minute to make a simple move, especially on simulators. It's one thing for a human to take a minute to think of what to play, it's another when it's the freaking AI that takes ages! I'M LOOKING AT YOU VARIS! You can't do shit to my Buster Blader, stop sitting there for like 2 minutes thinking you can even do anything. They actually had to nerf his Level 40 Deck (And presumably his Level 60 as well) because the AI kept getting stuck because he had so many possible moves. They removed all the Link 2s from his Extra Deck.

[@joebradburnii]

That labyrinth comment is so fucking funny 5 months later.

[@wolfiekohaku3702]

My biggest pet peeve with the game was that my locals became nothing but "that deck is trash it is low tier" when I was playing something fun or "let me see your trades" and when they saw something they were interested in they immediately whipped out their phone to get a price to try and buy it instead of actually doing a trade. I stopped going when it became nothing but a money game where the players with the heaviest wallet had the "best" deck because it was tier 1 or won a tournament rather than because they genuinely liked it. So i stuck to just playing sims and I have a much better time.

[@MrMaddog994]

So I guess a big one I haven’t found mentioned would be when people see a profile of a rogue deck that’s containing metaish engines, like branded blue eyes, etc. They always say “oh but that’s not a blue eyes deck! It’s a branded deck with extra steps!” My guy where has anything with the name blue eyes been for the past few years? We take what we can get around here

[@SpaceCityManny]

2021 I won one of those OTS trophies at my locals playing a pet deck. To be fair my pet deck is Monarchs and I knew the meta at my locals inside and out so 9/10 we passed on Vanitys + domain game one, then sided in a slew of very targeted side cards like spell canceller and jinzo for the striker, eldlich, and mine players.

[@kapwns]

majespecter unicorn has no business still being on the banlist.

[@a1joryj]

Biggest personal pet peeve: when you can’t play your favorite decks because they lose to Ash, because someone at Konami got a little too happy when they designed the quirky ghost girl that just says no to you playing the game. Fuck Ash Blossom. I can’t believe the thing hasn’t been hit one fucking time since release.

[@randomprotag9329]

in yugioh discussions seeing control and stun put in the same cagatory is the one thing that instantly ruins points. (non-overpowered) control I like since it makes resource management an actual up or down side. stun Is never good for the game since it makes resources unusable so resource management is unimportant.

[@aaronwishard7093]

This is coming from a Pokemon primarily player. I played Yu-Gi-Oh up until PePe, and then the price point just got out of control for me personally. So if this comes across badly it's not my intent. If you hate riffle shuffling. You will hate Pokemon. You're practically required to do it. This is because, as I've learned from going to bigger events, if you're anywhere in the top half of tables. If you don't riffle. Your opponent doesn't just have the right to cut your deck. By that games mechanics they have the right to shuffle for you. And they'll always riffle when they do. And while there's no 1,000s of dollars being tossed at a deck. It's still very cringe inducing to me when I see someone with their 100 dollar plus, high rarity, cards and unblinkingly riffle it.

[@jeremyadkins9665]

My pet peeve is when duelists, during their downtime between plays, shuffle their hands like they've got a nervous OCD tick that they cannot get rid of. I know it's meant to confuse their opponent on what cards they have in their hand in what combination, but it's just... so... goddamn... annoying! We're not playing three card monte, here, we're playing fucking Yugioh! Save the hand-shuffling for when you actually need to, like with the hand effect of Dangers...

[@RiverShock]

There's a few for me. People absolutely refusing to even CONSIDER a randomization method other than a die (whether that's flat out refusing to even consider a coin toss to determine who goes first, or arguing if someone suggests to just pick a card when they use a Danger or something). People instantly sending their stuff to the GY before a chain resolves (especially just immediately sending their Foolish Burial or whatever from their hand to the GY, even worse when it has an optional secondary effect and they send it half way through resolving it.) And experienced players who don't know absolutely basic gameplay stuff like "is this an activated effect" or "does this miss the timing" or "can there be multiple chains in the Battle Step".

[@UshiUshiKakuThe2nd]

Here's one of mine - why is it that some monsters say "If this card is Summoned..." and others say "If this card is Normal or Special Summoned...", when those two sentences mean essentially the same thing? The only difference is that the latter rules out Flip Summoning, but no-one does that anymore unless their monsters are specifically Flip Monsters. It's just so unnecessary, especially given that text-bloat is a bit of a problem with Yu-Gi-Oh.

[@blackmark2899]

The 2 biggest pet peeves I have are: 1. Lost of deck identity and mislabeling. A deck with a clear strategy, monster, bosses, etc get reduced to an engine of 2-3 cards and people have the fucking audacity to put that archetype name in their deck. No, just because you have 3 blue-eyes cards in your deck does not make it a Blue-eyes deck in any capacity. 2. Net Deckers. Let me be clear. Copying a deck from online isn't the issue. That's fine for when you are starting your deck building. But don't act like we don't know that you pulled that deck, card for card, off of an online profile. It's a meta deck that won a regional and you just showed up at locals with it, we know exactly where you got that deck from because your ability to pilot it is subpar.

[@fotiosvakakis1723]

Control and stun decks force you to draw feather duster its really fun to figure it out and opens up a whole new way of waiting 😎

[@ctusiard9755]

2:53 Same happened to me AT LOCALS! I go "hey, can I read Lady Labrynth?" then a few plays later I go "hey, can I read it again?" and asshole goes "It's the second time". Dude, chill, it's locals.

[@mekklord]

"in MTG if you play stun you're not happy but you'll deal with it" MTG players seethe when they see a crab, i'm not sure that was the most apt comparison

[@habo249]

My pet peeve is when I let my opponent take back a play then they dont do the same for me

[@youtube-kit9450]

Why would you ever let an opponent take back a play.

[@habo249]

Because its not a competitive setting..?

[@cbored3778]

Biggest pet peeve for me is getting laughed at for playing a rogue deck in locals as if that's not where you should play rogue. Back when I started playing again it was tier 0 nekroz format and this guy played nekroz. I was on batteryman. The guy set up djinn lock, I activated stormforth and laughs saying that my deck is bad, dunno why since stormforth is busted. I tribute his djinn lock claus for charger. I get ready for the otk and even set up photon strike bounzer to stop valk. And win game one. He then gets his friends over and they also laugh at me. Anyways I won game 3 cos 9 volt is a good card. Words of wisdom: play what you want and have fun just don't be a asshole.

[@marylovesdavidcook]

People seeing you playing stun as a justifiable reason to treat you like shit. I want to give myself the best chance possible to win in competitions but don't have the money for meta or even most tier 2 decks. There's a person behind the deck you're playing against and they deserve respect. Hate the deck, that's perfectly fine, but don't hate and attack the person unless they themselves are being toxic as people.

[@hannahtcg1080]

the “what does that do” one is so fucking hard for me. i play bystial thunder dragon so having to explain titan to a 13 year old on dragunity is fucking difficult for me without coaching

[@RadiantHex]

7:43 Yeah as someone who hasn't really dipped deep into playing YuGiOh this is a take I can understand and get behind fully. It's also sad when they print one good card to fix an archetype but then it's generic enough that it's just splashed into meta decks instead. Just feels a bit sad especially if you're someone invested in that specific style of cards and then find out you can just play this new support in meta so there's still nothing for your archetype to make it relevant.

[@Unyubaby]

Biggest pet peeve for me in modern is just solely the lack of variety. 10+ games in a row against the same exact deck from different people playing it the exact same way like machines really hammers into you that people aren't here to have fun playing a card game with you. When it's in a tournament with actual worthwhile prizes, that's different, but if you're showing up to casuals with tear 0 I should have the right to slap you across the face with Melffy Staring Contest.

[@cameronsmith4342]

I had a match where i was trying to resolve trouble sunny and my opponent was telling me that it was once per turn and I couldn't do that. I had no idea what they were talking about because they were saying it in a weird way until I realized that they got confused since I had activated it on their turn, but they thought it was mine. And when I explained that I used it on two separate turns, I could just feel the tense air and I'm pretty sure they still think I cheated. Was very awkward for the rest of the match. I stopped going there after a while.

[@ShyRanger]

My mom riffle-shuffled back when we used to play, days of Starter decks and such. When she finally noticed what was happening to the cards she felt REALLY bad.

[@genyatus]

"When people are constantly on the edge because they think you're cheating." AAAAAAAAA I still can't forget that Ancient Gear player that asked what simulator I tested in when I summoned Dragoon in Branded!

[@EraPraSerSoJota]

I think stun is especially frustrating I'm yugioh because of how fast the game is. In magic spending 4 turns of nothing is expected

[@r4nd0mguy99]

about that one with Blue-Eyes and staples: The annoying part of staples is that they get played in every deck. I don‘t care if you play Nordics. I‘d still roll my eyes when I see you play Verte + DPE. Blue-Eyes is also quite a boring deck to begin with. The reason for why I don‘t like Blue-Eyes is that people win using the staples instead of the archetype (looks at Karma Cut). The actual deck has ONE good card: the synchro that can shut down graveyard-effects.

[@kylianos3907]

Maindeck staples like handtraps are fine imo, but you should be able to tell what deck someone is playing by looking at their endboard.

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

The person who made the post Rhymestyle a Dragonball and Master Duel player got complaints in his comments about using meta staples against his friend who was playing Ra with 0 staples which lead to his friend getting blown out in a one sided match. People wanted it to be more casual. Other than that I don't think I've seen anyone complain about his blue eyes deck but I could be wrong.

[@AZ-rl7pg]

Using extra deck staples as your deck's end board/wincon instead of in archetype cards. Ofc that's more Konami's fault for making so many generic extra deck staples instead of giving every archetype their own version.

[@shanehaney6040]

I can’t judge on two of these - I legitimately only learned how Pend properly works because of the Master Duel Tutorial of all things, and I admittedly think certain staple cards do too much (easy example - Ash Blossom) Throwing mine in, how Yugioh has this thing with Rarity Creep. I get it, it’s to sell sealed product, but trying to build some decks becomes a nightmare when you just need to open Supers or higher. Least TCGPlayer makes that one less annoying…

[@orga7777]

Ash Blossom is a very healthy card for the game. Nobody should be complaining about it at this point.

[@shanehaney6040]

@@orga7777 I feel it’s a difference between a complaint and a personal gripe - I feel like as a single card, it does too much, but I wouldn’t want to see it banned. It’s just an easy example to point at.

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

@@shanehaney6040 Personally I think it's balanced. You can play around it, bait it out negate it and unlike Maxx C it requires knowledge, timing and actually stops combo decks. A year ago I would've agreed but after seeing the state of Yu-Gi-Oh and what many decks can end on if it goes uninterrupted I actually think it's necessary and only slightly healthy.

[@shanehaney6040]

@@Honest_Mids_Masher Oh, agreed, Ash just remains my go to example. It could legitimately have one less effect and would still be playable is what I’m very poorly trying to say. Compared to the other hand traps (with the exception of Ghost Belle & Haunted Mansion), it being as multi use as it is, and how good all of it’s uses are, there’s a reason I rag on Ash. I wouldn’t want to see it banned - I just played Legend Anthology, whoever decided to ban Ash but keep DDD at almost full strength is a sadist - but I’ll rag on it every once in a while.

[@RamixTheRed]

6:36 I think this is more of a case of people who complain having valid criticisms but not being informed enough to know who to blame. Watching through prog series and history I get the sense that a lot of the problems people complain about with modern ygo *did* begin around the Pendulum Era, even if it wasn't specifically Pendulums that did it. That said, the ability to pend 5 every single turn did significantly contribute to how much the game sped up, and decks that *weren't* doing that had to be able to do compete with that, and this led to what I think is one of the biggest eras of powercreep in the game.

[@joelpaultre7440]

I'd have to say that most of these things really don't bother me. My biggest pet peeve has got to be when my opponent starts complain about my deck once they find out what I'm playing. It blows my mind that there are people who go to locals thinking: I swear to God if I have to play against earth Machine one more time I'm going to puch someone. Just lemme play my shitty "rogue" deck in peace.

[@S1lentScarlett]

My biggest pet peeve is when someone calls a player they are "unskilled at ygo" for playing a control/stun deck or a stun-based build of their deck. Like A LOT of decks right now have to make their deck Stun to even play in the current format it's not the player's fault that the format calls for their deck to go stun

[@orga7777]

Plenty of other ways to play than flipping Rivalry/Gozen/Skill Drain/TCBOO. Locking your opponent out of being able to play at all is not satisfying for anyone. Same reason I hate stupid combo decks like Adamancipator or Drytron that just ended on an unbreakable board full of negates that can play through two to three hand traps.

[@EinDose]

'Not skill-based'=building and playing a deck that needs to be reactive, observant and often even careful because they need to deploy their control/stun deck in a way that's going to properly counter whatever their opponent has, potentially including dodging their own cards' restrictions, often with relatively little searching meaning that they have to make do with what they get. 'Skill-based'=playing the exact same combo of searchable cards every single game to land on three negates and an OTK-capable board turn one.

[@dagui2973]

But stun and control are completely different things? Control is about interaction, by nature, as you try to get control over the board state and keep it by stopping your opponents at key points. Having a consistent resource engine with access to interruption on the opponent’s turn is key in a modern control deck. Stun does not interact with the opponent. You place the cards on the field that say “you cannot” or judgments to protect them, and then hope your opponent can’t do anything. If they can? You lose, as you have very little, if any ways of reclaiming the board state, incurring advantage, or creating resources. Your goal isn’t to stop the opponent at key moments, and eventually out-resource them/get yourself into a position where you can cripple/ beat them outright. You skip all of that, summon boarder, flip TCBOO, flip Macro. You don’t need to know their lines to activate skill drain. Control is awesome, I love games against control, even when I get washed. Stun is boring because either the Stun player wins turn 1 or they lose. They barely involve the opponent, less so than combo, because you can’t ash NS dyna equip moon mirror set judgment, or veiler, or whathave you. But if you can interact, unlike combo, where knowing where to hit is important, or making the assumption, none of that is a particularly vital location to hit, as to stop a combo or to weaken it, no. It’s just “if you can interact with me, I lose instantly. I hope you can’t” Stun and Control are not the same.

[@orga7777]

@@dagui2973 Someone gets it. Control is awesome. Floodgate.deks are not awesome. Never were.

[@kurodox8063]

At my first locals I beat a stun player game 1 because as it turns out, they don't like boring games where you crackdown their pachy equipped with MMS and they have no out to it. She ragequit the entire thing after she lost by deck out because she adamantly refused to forfeit that game.

[@finalpalerider66]

i have a couple pet peeves 1) during my first turn they trigger an effect causing a long ass combo during my turn learn to wait 2)people taking aournd 10 minutes to make a move dude its your deck you should know what cards you use 3) a player grabbing your card to read it effect without asking and some time rough with it what an a$$ 4) one thing i do like is when me and the other player are both ok talking before a match to give a summary of what our decks can do like im going for gold pride so i would have to have less lp to use my effects