One Sick Little Monkey: The History of John K’s Career

Now regarded as one of animation’s biggest monsters, John K has has a wild career. Let me tell you all about it.
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[@mediamementosofficial]

Yes the Rugrats and Doug footage is swapped. Editing error. Oh well.

[@556deltawolf]

huh i thought that was deliberate to show that the two shows were pretty much the same. XD

[@chicoravelli5703]

Oops! 😂😂😂

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

Not your fault

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

@Khaled Shanshal Really?

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

@Khaled Shanshal That is fine

[@misterzygarde6431]

Imagine how differently things would be if John K. had basic human decency and knew how to compromise.

[@pointless529]

I would feel less shame for liking his show for one.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

I'm just hoping for the day John K is forced to register as a sex offender.

[@kieranstark7213]

Then Ren & Stimpy in general (especially Adult Party Cartoon) and Cana Without Labels and even other projects he may have made wouldn’t have sucked so hard!

[@CylonLab]

Ren and Stimpy would be on everything similar to SpongeBob.

[@PipeGuy64Bit]

@@kieranstark7213 I have a feeling Cans Without Labels still would've been lackluster

[@redwaytoo]

John K's first meeting with Nick execs feels like that Cars 2 misunderstanding plot, like, "he acts really weird and kooky so he MUST be a genius!"

[@eatatjoes6751]

Honestly the entertainment industry has *REALLY* bad internal character observance.

[@FamilyGuyBalls]

Good movie fr

[@robertorick6383]

@@eatatjoes6751 The entertainment industry has learned nothing from creeps like Harvey Wienstien, etc. There are always scandals in Hollywood happening every week. And if it isn't scandals in Hollywood, it's scandals from The Royal Family and Prince Harry and Megan Markle. It's mind boggling to say the least.

[@emperorfaiz]

@emptyglass7867 Don''t be so condescending over people having different opinion. Agree to disagree without needing to shame others.

[@orangeslash1667]

@emptyglass7867 You can blame John Lasseter for the the Cars films. He may have created Toy Story, but Cars 2 is what happens when you give him too much freedom.

[@magnetoonproductions9541]

There were some things that actually gave us hints about John’s true nature. • A later episode of Ren and Stimpy was a jab at the hostile working environment that John created when working on the show. • A Spumco commercial had a rooster hitting on a female intern. • The He-Hog pilot had the title character slapping a woman and tricking her into going on a date with him. • Boo Boo and the Man featured two bears questioning Yogi and Boo-Boo’s friendship and being roommates.

[@NotRay1995]

what was that episode about The hostile work environment called?

[@magnetoonproductions9541]

There were two: Stimpy’s Cartoon Show and Reverend Jack.

[@spongebobrocks1187]

Robyn Bryd was also involved with the production of Boo-Boo and the Man

[@scarletweb2106]

Katie Rice

[@Lunar_WaveYT]

Fun fact: Raymond Spum was actually the Alias/Name John K went under in episodes he thought were “bad”

[@ethan_exists398]

It’s honestly sad that John became from a passionate animator to a literal prick to a criminal at a blink of an eye. It’s pretty sad

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

It's because he got too comfortable with showing his true colors to those who were close to him.

[@AbrasiousProductions]

That's Hollywood

[@BBWahoo]

A passionate animator, to a professional prick, to a professional lolita lover 😭😭😭 Ren and StimpUUUUUOHHHHHHH

[@alexgomez6723]

You make it seem like they where mutual exclusive at one point.

[@BBWahoo]

@@alexgomez6723 RANDOM QUESTION! Are you Jewish, or think you are of Jewish descent? I've been doing research of Sephardic Genealogy, surnames, culture, conversos and would love an honest answer!!

[@pokemonmanic3595]

If there’s one thing to learn from people like John K and Butch Hartman is that the best kinds of media usually doesn’t come from a single person. It’s either people who hold the creator back from throwing everything at the wall at once, or those who can take the ideas and push them higher. Never believe that a singular person is responsible for making a show good-because that leads to creative tunnel vision.

[@connorbeith3232]

It also makes it harder to enjoy things when a leading figure on said things gets cancelled.

[@shelbymckinney8888]

@@connorbeith3232 Though I think that John K is much worse.

[@Manticorn]

Steve Marmel was responsible for the best parts of Danny Phantom that caused a cult following to this day. He created the depth and angst and drama that fan works focus on now. Butch Hartman wanted to make it Fairly Oddparents-like and babified and insisted that none of the ghosts were ever actually people who passed away, which strips away a huge amount of storytelling potential. Steve was off the team by season 3, making it the season regarded as the worst one. The onset of seasonal rot was wildly premature. Steve Marmel is one of my personal heroes.

[@BBWahoo]

FoP guzzled turds compared to the greatness that was ren and stimpy tbh

[@somebum4087]

It sadly seems very common for fans to think that ONE person is responsible for a show’s success, especially with shows like Steven Universe and Gravity Falls. Working on an animated series relies on teamwork and most fans don’t realize that there are many writers and artists involved that can make the show BETTER than how the creator envisioned.

[@MercuryKurogane]

24:30 This isn't the first time I've heard someone use ADHD as a reason to "excuse" being a sexual predator or sexual abuser, but it's honestly disgusting. I have ADHD, and probably some other disorder as well, and I do suffer with sometimes disgusting intrusive thoughts that I end up hating myself for for even thinking it, but I know not to act on them. No disorder should excuse criminal behavior of that nature, and ones past shouldn't excuse it either.

[@ajb5119]

Your right on the money man.

[@DerekMcDouglas]

There's the cosplayer Momokun.

[@WobblesandBean]

I myself have ADHD, and yeah, it's honestly disgusting. ADHD isn't an excuse. Nothing is.

[@wormsnebraska]

I know what you mean but don’t hate yourself for thoughts-they’re like environmental noise, and we have no control over anything about them, except the decision whether to agree with them or not. Being good has zilch to do with thought content, but rather behavior

[@Morningstar91939]

I have ADHD as well. I can confidently say that mental disorders don’t give you the right to be an asshole.

[@sjmhadsock4586]

I honestly feel bad for the people who worked for him

[@rankrodent2772]

I honestly feel bad for him

[@sstaners1234]

No kidding

[@sjmhadsock4586]

@Hawkknight97 from what I heard yes

[@orangeslash1667]

@Hawkknight Is John K a perfectionist because he wants to live up Bob Clampett??? Im not sure if Clampett himself was as difficult to work with as John??

[@scarletweb2106]

I feel sorry for the people who used to work for John Kricfalusi

[@CJBStudios]

I remember reading about John K on TV Tropes, and from what I’ve read, he was abused by his own father. To be fair, at least Chris Savino isn’t anything like him, which is ironic given that _The Ren & Stimpy Show_ was the very first show that he worked on back when he was 19 years old.

[@rotisseriepossum]

I can’t tell if this is sarcastic or not, but at least Savino isn’t nearly as bad and he got fired before he could do too damage compared to K

[@CJBStudios]

@@rotisseriepossum That is very true. And at least Savino actually apologized a couple years later. He even admitted that he had to go to therapy and almost tried to kill himself. Not to mention he was addicted to drinking.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

Well that's a fucking lame excuse. That makes me glad that he was abused!

[@556deltawolf]

I will say this though while I am not saying he didn't do it. I have yet to see reliable evidence against Chris Savino for the accusations. Apart from many of his accusers refuse to come forward and testify, this was during the height of the MeToo Movement when people were getting fired for the most minor finger pointing. Again not saying he didn't do it but it's innocent until proven guilty and I have yet to see evidence of his guilt.

[@PipeGuy64Bit]

@@CJBStudios It's great he bettered himself. I wish more people were capable of self reflection.

[@somebum4087]

John K is a textbook example of how NOT to work in animation.

[@rankrodent2772]

Disagree

[@Launchpad05]

While 'creative freedom' can be nice, that doesn't mean you get to go all 'hard core' with it. Especially if it's for A kids network. 'Batman:TAS' has some dark, and mature subject matter, but Bruce Timm knew how to play the game, and also knew that kids were in the target audience.

[@adampkalb]

Even before he turned out to be a pedophile and a sex offender, other bad things about John that made me want to never learn about animation from *him* are the way he looked down on other animation studios with more limited animation styles than his own when he worked for Hanna-Barbera and Filmation, and had the nerve to call the networks that broadcast them and censored his adult comedy "dykes."

[@adampkalb]

@khaledshanshal6646 I (obviously!) never want to be a sex offender like Kricfalusi who dates underage girls and boys, but on the subject of his profession, I also never want to be a stuck-up detective who picks what types of animation that are different from my own to insult, which John was also very infamous for doing before and especially after he was revealed to be a pedophile.

[@liberaldriller9884]

@ MelloWattz : I grew up with dragshows for kids, called pantomime shows. I'm hetro, married, two daughters. You're point is?

[@Hack_Man_VII]

According to Slopesgameroom, John's dad didn't like his son drawing cartoons so mucj. He was worried that young John wouldn't turn out the way he wanted, so he secretly hid dirty magazines in his room.

[@octavianjoseph8633]

What... the hell.😔😔

[@abdullahibouraleh6919]

John's father Michael actually thought John was gay. Believe it or not.

[@joshhacker8503]

​@@abdullahibouraleh6919 That makes too much sense

[@joshhacker8503]

​@@octavianjoseph8633 No wander he thought naughty things were okay. His dad was his first influence

[@alysssabear]

Not surprised he also had a failure of a father

[@eatatjoes6751]

I can tell you one thing, learning about John while trying to get my own project off the ground has colored my viewpoint immensely. Also, it's funny in a cosmic sort of way how he even creeped out *"THE MANLIEST NETWORK ON TV."* That's an accomplishment.

[@jaysonklein6018]

Making Ren and Stimpy gay would creep out *ANYBODY!*

[@SparkzEnt]

He creeped Spike out so bad, that 15 years later, they rebranded to the current Paramount Network

[@zombies4evadude24]

@@jaysonklein6018not “anybody” but APC took it to another messed up level (there were hints in the original btw).

[@matcha6710]

To be fair, Naked Beach Frenzy would definitely appeal to the "frat boy" demographic they were trying to cultivate with Spike

[@scarletweb2106]

Technically he's the one that get away with everything!

[@wajowski]

Ren & Stimpy is so awesome, it really sucks that it was the brainchild of someone who had *other* thoughts in mind.

[@koolboi6610]

Media Mementos in general feels like a more lighthearted Blameitonjorge.

[@thehyperobsesr]

I knew it reminded me of something lol

[@jadenbryant9283]

Yeah I agree

[@scarletweb2106]

Yep I agree

[@jeremykrane4855]

i will always chortle at the fact that katie rice got to work on the reboot of animaniacs when john k anonymously attacked the original.

[@BBWahoo]

If he hated the original, god knows he'd feel worse about the reboot

[@rankrodent2772]

That show sucks

[@robertorick6383]

@@BBWahoo John hates Steven Spielberg with a passion. And he's not too keen on George Lucas and "Star Wars", either.

[@BBWahoo]

@@robertorick6383 How does he feel about Craig McCracken, miss sylvia?

[@robertorick6383]

@@BBWahoo I haven't heard anything about his opinion about Craig McCracken, but Craig's wife Lauren Faust and "Steven Universe" creator Rebecca Sugar have both said some harsh words about John when he was caught in 2018. Of course, Lauren and Rebecca are two members of the #Me Too and Time's Up organizations and Rebecca is a known bisexual, so their views on John's vulgarities are justifiable. Like I said in my other posts, I like his work, but I think he flunks out as a human being. On the other hand, he has picked fights with Trey Parker and Matt Stone, and has had an unpleasant accusation of them over the character of "Mr. Hankey", whom John claims they stole an idea he had for "Ren & Stimpy" about a talking feces, but didn't get to use because of censorship. John can be a prickly, unpleasant person to be around if you rub him the wrong way. His legendary battles with Bob Camp and Billy West are testaments to that kind of mean spiritedness.

[@jamilfrost6217]

John k. In my opinion Is the Dave Sim of animation . Both rose up and became game changers in their respective industry, and then they both screwed it up and committed career suicide and we're revealed to be nasty people.

[@NicklasNN]

The thing about “perfectionism” is it’s not that you’re literally trying to make something perfect but rather your mind is constantly moving goal posts because, for whatever reason, you don’t want to finish this project. When people brag about being one, I’m never impressed. I feel it’s a red flag that someone doesn’t know what they really want but will still act aggressively to get to this fantasy finish line. After reading about John K and how much of a prick he could be, I just can’t re read his blog or interviews any more. He’s always making himself a victim or bragging about the shitty choices that he wanted to put into his cartoons and it makes me wonder why I looked to this guy in the first place. He just had his own, angry, shitty little world that he never wanted to leave.

[@eatatjoes6751]

His blog reads like the ramblings of - a sad parody of what a macho guy is. Like, if somebody wanted to make a cartoon about the Machoest Man in the World, they'd legally have all the inspiration they need from John.

[@BBWahoo]

That ""perfectionist"" thing you said is worth its weight in gold, absolutely true. Perfectionists are not perfect at all, they're more flawed than the average person seeing as they aren't even sure of what they want. Smart boy, you get a rolex watch this christmas.

[@NicklasNN]

@@BBWahoo Oooohhh! Could always use a nice Rolex! 😁

[@ghoulbuster1]

Nothing is perfect. So you should strive for mediocrity.

[@TMHLBPFan]

​@@ghoulbuster1Every modern game publisher approves of this message 👍

[@UaghBrian2000]

It’s too bad Jon K went down this route. I met him at a comic convention in Sacramento,CA back in September 2013. The experience was great,not only was he friendly to fans, he was also open to many questions asked during his Q&A panel

[@WobblesandBean]

He was likely trawling the Q&A for his next child grooming victim.

[@Morningstar91939]

Just goes to show: don’t meet your heroes.

[@MegaToonzNetwork]

@@Morningstar91939 fought and defeated his heroes in an epic showdown!!!!!

[@ogami1972]

Just 6 min in, but quick aside: I was a club kid in the late 80's, and catching Mighty Mouse early Saturday mornings while coming down from the psychedelics I had taken Friday night was one of my favorite things. A few years later I would be over-excited about R&S, taping the "Space Madness" episode and showing it to everyone I knew. Good times before the bad, indeed.

[@Nega_Man]

And the fact you forgot how John K tried to sue South Park over a character who is poop. To explain, John K was trying to sue Matt Stone and Trey Parker because he claimed that Hankey the Christmas Poop was a rip off

[@theotherjared9824]

To think that there was ample evidence to despise this man even before the actual crimes came out.

[@AKatNamedKuckoo]

As someone who actually watched the episode (and somehow survived), I can't believe Naked Beach Frenzy was supposed to be for the ORIGINAL Ren and Stimpy, not the revival. The fact that an episode like that was originally supposed to be for a show for CHILDREN, not ADULTS makes me absolutely sick.

[@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302]

And you know this because this guy said so?

[@orangeslash1667]

@@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302 You can find more detail on wiki.

[@toon4thought]

What's really interesting about the upcoming R&S reboot is that reportedly a couple of John's victims actually got to have input in it - in fact, I've heard word that Robyn Byrd is a producer. But yeah, very well-researched coverage on this ever-notorious yet fascinating figure.

[@squitlertron]

Wait, that's still happening?

[@happyhappystimpy6017]

@Khaled Shanshal That wasn't her.. That was Rebecca Sugar who tried to cancel it.

[@worthybutter2004]

@Khaled Shanshal Or maybe it was both of them?

[@worthybutter2004]

​@@squitlertron Yes, it is.

[@squitlertron]

@@worthybutter2004 that's nice, but I haven't heard a word about I since I new a reboot existed.

[@JulesJstar]

I really appreciated your little message at the end. Being better than John K has always been one of my artistic motivations. As the kids say, I felt seen.

[@darth_autismo]

Hi, Julian!

[@mitchfletcher2386]

John was always a bit of a creep even BEFORE Ren and Stimpy. Whenever he worked at places like DiC and FIlmation, he would always bitch about how he was too good for them. He's got a whole blog dedicated to bitching about stuff, mostly animation from the 80s and the modern-day stuff. Lou Scheimer was credited with once saying about John K, "You know, we didn't HAVE to hire him."

[@BrendanBarney]

What a coincidence. I was watching a few episodes of Ren & Stimpy last night.

[@Sephus912]

I think the only good things John did in his life were merely creating Ren and Stimpy and doing Ren’s voice. That’s it. NOTHING. ELSE.

[@cerealgeekTV]

The amusing thing about John K. is that he HATED those studios like Filmation, DiC, TMS, etc., that had model sheets for their characters as he believed it quashed his creativity and freedom - Only to then create a studio himself in which he abused and bullied artists that didn't follow HIS model sheets (thus quashing their freedom) - I always respected what John K. brought to the industry (LOVE his work on Mighty Mouse and his original character designs for Galaxy High School were fantastic), but the guy IS possibly the biggest narcissist in the industry - And yeah, the last decade or so has seen a truly ugly side of the man come to light - I hate to sound melodramatic, but I do wonder what his legacy will be...

[@elliottpak]

Wow, hypocrisy from John K.

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

Just like how nobody thinks of O.J. Simpson as a football player anymore or Michael Jackson as the King of Pop. Very influential in their fields, but gave into their worst tendencies.

[@jacobturner3059]

I heard John hated on-model animation, so I didn’t even know he bothered with using model sheets.

[@ConejoZing]

He is the "perfectionist" of Ralph Bakshi. In other words, his ideal was complete imperfection with all the drawbacks of a perfectionist. His only moment of brilliance was directed by the heads at Nickelodeon. He is also the poster child of someone who gave into temptation instead of resisting it. A clever viewer will note the myriad ways Spongebob ridicules John K both in style and uh, execution.

[@ConejoZing]

He was also defeated or at least outsmarted by this animator kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJfJoqmcmMSijMU It's a show about hyper clever spies, guns, robots and civilizations.

[@ghoulbuster1]

Sponge Bob kept going on and on and stopped being good.

[@kraikein]

One thing to note about the Yogi cartoons John did, Joseph Barbera, co-creator of Hannah Barbera and various cartoons including Yogi Bear, hated them so much that rumor has it he tried to put a mob hit out on John K. There's been some rumors about Joe having mob connections, due to the New York area he was born in and the time he was born having high amounts of organized crime. May just be hear say, but I can believe it. Also watching this, John K really is the anti-Ralph Bakshi. Bakshi may have his wacky stories, but they're more funny stories and he's made several fantastic films. Meanwhile John's stories are horrible and disturbing, and is really only a one hit wonder. Also really wish Clampett had just told him to stop, would've been the best course of action.

[@jadenbryant9283]

Jeez that's wilid

[@robertorick6383]

Keep in mind that Bob Clampett was dead by 1988 when the "Beany and Cecil" revival debuted (he died in Detroit in 1984 at the age of 70) and Bob Clampett Jr. was the man who had to deal with John's antics. Bob Jr.'s mother, Sody (yes, that is who Sody Pop got her name from, Bob Clampett's attractive wife) also had to deal with John's demanding , controlling behavior. It was with ABC TV executives and standards and practices censors however, that John pushed over the edge with his vulgarities enough to pull the plug on "Beany & Cecil" after a couple of months.

[@WobblesandBean]

It's a shame he didn't succeed with that hit.

[@takarifan]

Whoaaaa... that's unbelievable. Who knew Good Old Joe had a secret dark life?

[@robertorick6383]

@@takarifan I had no idea that Joe Barbera could be involved with mobsters and Mafia dons like Sam Giancana or Meyer Lansky. Frank Sinatra, perhaps, but Joe Barbera? It wasn't because he was an Italian American, was it? If so, what a stereotype. Imagine hiring a Mafia hitman to rub out John K. like they possibly did with Jimmy Hoffa. I live in Oxford , Michigan, about five miles from where Jimmy Hoffa had a summer beach house in Lake Orion in 1975 when he mysteriously vanished, so I hear about the Hoffa legend with Mob ties a lot too often. The very idea of having John possibly secretly rubbed out is frightening, even if John is a pissant. You are correct that Bob Clampett (Sr.) should have stopped John's antics , Kraikein, but by 1984, it was too late. Bob had already died while visiting a Detroit animators and comic book convention when he had a massive heart attack while autographing memorbillia for fans, and was taken to Detroit Recieving Hospital where he was pronounced dead. His son, Bob Jr. and his wife, Sody Clampett took over the rights for "Beany & Cecil", and they sold the rights to DIC animation and ABC TV for the revival. John already worked for DIC in 1983, on the "Heathcliff & The Cattilac Cats" series, and already showed his orneriness about DIC studios with disgust, labeling the "DIC" initials unofficially as "Do It Cheap". So hiring John to do the "Beany & Cecil" remake, as much as he loved Bob Clampett was obviously going to be a huge mistake, with John's shady reputation. It's one thing to be pissed off at John's ego and temper, but hiring the Mafia to rub him out....sheesh!

[@lapinpuff]

K's creepiness bled into those early episodes...even the seemingly innocent ones. Powdered Toast Man and his (seemingly very young...) assistant having a relationship, disturbingly, says a lot. I'm so glad there was the rest of the crew to add heart the show, because it balanced the dark comedy and made it truly special. Otherwise, it would have been a misery fest, a kid-friendly APC. I truly think people give K too much credit...the rest of the team were the real stars.

[@jackeggleson4102]

Actually all the heart in the show vanished after he was fired so I’m pretty sure any heart in ren and stimpy was because of John k not despite him

[@lapinpuff]

@@jackeggleson4102 He actively said he hated having to put in heartwarming scenes and it was totally against his will. When he did reluctantly add them, it was meant to mock the viewer for caring about gross characters in sentimental situations. I personally think the fact that the occasional 'cuteness' in the show faded after a while was more likely due to the general writing issues that emerged.

[@skeletonmf]

@LapinPuff can I get a source on that? I used to follow his blog and he seemed to be more against hamfisted pathos in cartoons rather than heartwarming scenes. He even said he fought for the mistletoe scene in Son of Stimpy because the execs were worried about backlash from anti gay groups. That said, I can't trust anything the man says at this point. He's proven to be not only a toxic human being, but a predator and a monster

[@lapinpuff]

@@skeletonmf Sadly I don't have an exact source, I more thought it was a sort of common knowledge (not that I think you're wrong; all my info is second-hand after all, I'm just parroting what I've heard :) Honestly K's feelings on different cartoons, their tones, etc just seems wildly inconsistent. His own work often contradicts his own very vocal opinions, so it's a bit of a mess to figure out. Honestly, I don't want to figure out such a horrible person.

[@stevewik2280]

@@jackeggleson4102 I don't know what show you were watching, but I remember back in the day being raging angry when he was fired and assumed the show would turn to shit without him. Imagine my surprise when the show was just as good, maybe even better without John K. We saw what John brought to the show years later when Spike let him destroy the franchise with the wretched Ren & Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon. ...For a handful of episodes before they cancelled it, anyway.

[@tessalyyvuo1667]

OMG I remember watching this video but I didn't remember you show a clip from Don't Hug Me I'm Scared. I started watching it after a really flamboyant tattoo artist showed a clip from it in one of his videos. I love that show.

[@ringodingo2587]

The Ren and Stimpy show is a prime example of seperating the art from the artist

[@adampkalb]

For me, it helps that I was never a big fan of John Kricfalusi's art in the first place, especially when he openly insults everyone else's art. He made very good art, very creative art, but it is not for me. I always liked the animation and art style of Rugrats way more, and it must have gained a wider appeal and audience than Ren and Stimpy to give Rugrats far more longevity, a record for Nick's longest running series that would be unmatched until Season 9 of SpongeBob SquarePants and Sponge Out of Water finally defeated/outranked Rugrats as the new Nickelodeon champion. December 20, 2022, 12:20am

[@SirBlackReeds]

In all fairness, TV shows have the benefit of many staff members instead of just one painter.

[@ghoulbuster1]

It's easy. You just don't care! Life is too short to be a social justice Warrior.

[@AA-lz4wq]

@@ghoulbuster1 Yeah, it's quite hypocritical; these people don't even know all the horrible things their neighbors next door might be suffering or the terrible consequences of their own everyday actions, yet they put themselves on this moral pedestal, deciding not to consume something if it was made by a certain person. Yeah, sure, that doesn't stop them from using mobile devices whose components were made through child labor... Who knows? Maybe their cow milk or their vegan soy milk provider is a horrible criminal; they don't care enough to find out before they take a sip... Aren't cartoons made in North Korea? They should just enjoy what they enjoy and shut up.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@adampkalb The reason John K is harsh on most shows, is because he's a fan of Bob Clampett. If the animation isn't on the same level, he's not impressed.

[@NateTheGnat]

What's interesting is that Ren & Stimpy the 1991 show was great (mainly) in **spite** of John Kricfalusi. The proof of this is the 2003 Adult Party Cartoon which is like the raw, "isolate" version of John K, where we get a glimpse into his disturbed mind. The APC show is truly almost unwatchable, because it is downright bitter and "edgy", pointlessly disgusting (and worst of all, boring) and without any of the heart that the original show had. There were many jokes that John wanted to put into the original R&S that were censored because they were too offensive, but once the APC show came around it made me realize the censors were doing a job of making the original show watchable and funny. So I have to thank the censors for that... Imagine thanking the censors of cartoons for something! Now I did it.

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

Exactly! The original show was good and funny BECAUSE of executive meddling. I think the only reason why the later episodes were considered not as good was because there were different people doing it, the folks who were there in the beginning were probably getting sick of it OR they were running out of ideas. Either way, John K. is not necessary to have around to make "REN & STIMPY" and Bob Camp is as much "The Creator!" of the show as John K. was.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@SpukiTheLoveKitten75 It's not just the loss of John k, It's also the loss of Spumco, still Stimpy's cartoon show was pretty good because it was originally John K's idea.

[@JoeyXSmith]

Even The Simpsons make a joke about him not able to finish his animation on time.

[@brianblumenreich9026]

The censors had a field day on REN AND STIMPY!

[@jeremybeau8334]

One of the problems of Jhon was probably his childhood an formatives years. He had an abusive violent father that had a heavy influence in his life and probably caused some traumas on him. Thats one of the reason why Ren and Stimpy is such a fuckdup show.

[@uhhh_adam]

I remember when I met him in 2013, I found it a little sus that his assistant inking in the colors for him was a very young girl. While drawing me, he randomly asked me if I liked wrestling..it was a bit strange

[@ricardocantoral7672]

He considers age 20 "over the hill".

[@brendenmiles8564]

23:42 I'm not sure which part of that clip I'm more disturbed by, K's confession or the rest of the crew cheering him on for it.

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

@emptyglass7867 Me, too.

[@limelantern5637]

Was he trying to say that he abused underage girls because he was restless and impulsive? That implies that A. that's how ADHD works (definitely not, and people with ADHD HATE that some people think that's true) and B. that every man would be abusing teenagers if they couldn't control their impulses. wtf

[@gircakes2]

Impulsive behavior is a symptom of ADHD, but it doesn't make you attracted to underage girls.

[@theassortedhobbyist]

10:46-10:56 Shouldn't the narration about Doug and Rugrats should be switched, so that they are in sync with the visuals of the show in question?

[@pointless529]

I knew somebody had to have commented that editing mistake.

[@1mikefan819]

Huh. Had no idea that Ralph Bakshi worked with the guy till this video. Huh. Learn something new everyday

[@Launchpad05]

Funny enough, John K. already worked on A 'Mighty Mouse' cartoon at Filmation, and obviously, he hated working on that. Also, Ralph Bakshi's approach to dealing with the censors sounds kinda similar to how Bruce Timm, or Tom Ruegger would get away with certain things on their cartoons at WB.

[@higbeeproductions2340]

I still love ren and stimpy….but I hate john K

[@BrendanBarney]

You and me both.

[@ethan_exists398]

Me too

[@higbeeproductions2340]

I am kind of excited for the reboot though… even if it’s probably not gonna be good but it’s still Ren & Stimpy so I watch it

[@ramirocaorlin4613]

We all do pal

[@worthybutter2004]

@Khaled Shanshal You saying you once encountered him? Sorry if that's the case.

[@LowellLucasJr.]

I remember, not too long ago, they were going to try revive Ren and Stimpy and it quickly got dropped. The allegations against John K, which were completely Justified, as well as people afraid to work with him would be coming even bigger issue.

[@spongebobrocks1187]

Nope, that's still happening, also John K is not working on the reboot.

[@LowellLucasJr.]

@@spongebobrocks1187 yeah I gather. Glad he's not involved considering what hes done.

[@worthybutter2004]

@Khaled Shanshal Oh I think she did, she just didn't care. In her petition to cancel the reboot, she claimed that, and I quote, "While he (Chris McCarthy from ViacomCBS) has assured the public that John K., the show's abusive creator, will not be involved or make money from the show, that does not reduce the negative impact that the show will have on viewers and crew." What do you make of that?

[@worthybutter2004]

@Khaled Shanshal Agreed! Like, I get it was a traumatic experience for her, no child should ever have to go through that, but I feel she acted like a bit of a jerk about it, even disrespecting fans who supported the reboot.

[@PrincessofPower84]

He was talented and had connections, but that wasn't enough. His lack of humility, professionalism, maturity and common decency was his undoing. Had he been a team player and had gotten the help he needed, the trajectory of his life and career would be in a much different direction. He is a prime example of the phrase "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" and is now little more than a sick, manipulative, bitter, sad old man who deserves his fate (and certainly deserves to be in prison).

[@scarletweb2106]

I knew it I was wrong about John Kricfalusi

[@artism9780]

The video is actually sad because my drawing style was partly inspired by Ren and Stimpy. Even if I make a cartoon inspired by him, I learned some lessons. 1. Don’t expect the outcomes of meeting your heroes. 2. Don’t expect your project to be perfect and you can learn some constructive criticism. 3. Respect everyone’s boundaries and consent. Same thing with Pete Townsend, I still think The Who’s one of the greatest rock bands ever and Pete Townsend is an amazing songwriter. However, he had complications with his band mates and even his wife.

[@AluminumFusion22]

I remember when John spoke about Go! Go! Hypergrind's development on his personal blog and needless to say, he isn't very fond of Japanese people or their artwork, either. He flat-out called them a "cold race" and openly said he liked anime in regards to how the women were drawn (of course) and its usage of color.

[@MadameSomnambule]

Ah, so John K is racist. No surprise there ngl. He does come off as an angry sexist boomer after all.

[@ghoulbuster1]

Sounds accurate.

[@systemofadownsyndrome7715]

"My whole career is based on 'good enough,'" Kevin Smith

[@matcha6710]

You missed a few things about John and Spumco: • They did other Hanna-Barbera adaptations for Cartoon Network: Jetsons: Father and Son Day, Jetsons: The Best Son, A Day In The Life of Ranger Smith, and Boo Boo and the Man •Did some animation work including a very NSFW music video for Tenacious D's "F**k Her Gently", as well as the intro to their movie "Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny" • Animated a music video for Björk's "I Miss You" from her 1995 album Post (great album btw, give it a listen if you can) •Designed a few Japan-exclusive PS2 games, Yoake no Mariko and Space Fishermen •Designed a video game with Shin Megami Tensei/Persona developer and Sega studio Atlus called "Go-Go Hypergrind" for the Nintendo GameCube.

[@ScreamingScallop]

The episodes of R&S that John _did_ leave his name on were frequently atrocious on a technical level. I don't know if the regular overly-pregnant pauses were meant to pad out the runtime or were just the result of his complete lack of timing sense, but there were also terrible out-of-focus or mis-framed shots (I think the first-season episode "Untamed World" has the worst example) that even Filmation would have refused to let air. If he was a perfectionist, it was only when it came to belittling others' efforts. Back in the day, there was a high-end (and pretentious) fanzine called _Cinefantastique,_ an entire issue of which was devoted to John getting booted out of Nick. Oh boy, did _they_ ever buy into John's version of events, whether it made sense or not: John was just a simple comedic artist yearning to be free, and everyone at Nick was a _damn fascist_ for not letting him show his characters having graphic sex or eating poop. It was stupid then, and became hilariously stupid once the truth got around. Never put people on pedestals, folks. (I just took a peek at eBay and copies of the issue go for very reasonable prices, if anyone's interested.)

[@christopherwall2121]

Isn't it funny (isn't it sad) how he just raged on and on about cartoons having storyboards or scripts when his own knowledge of how a cartoon is put together seems to go no further than drawing the funny pictures?

[@ryanjacobson2508]

Artists always bitch that producers and lawyers get in their way, but often times when these regulators are removed we find that artists are their own worst enemy.

[@ToaAxiomMan]

A lesson to be learnt is sometimes that compromises have to be made and that the ideas that you had in mind for your work might sound good on paper but would come off as not as good as what you expected and had in mind and changes have to be also made

[@mistertagomago7974]

The weird thing to me is how iconic and well known and respected John K was even though really have a great resume outside those first two seasons of Ren and Stimpy. He made more crap than gold.

[@connorbeith3232]

@Khaled Shanshal While it's not my favorite C.H. Greenblatt show, I didn't think Jellystone was that bad. It has it's moments and I like the voice acting, though i'm not really down with all the gender-swapping or personality changes. And as bad as John K.'s adaptations can get, I think even they have their moments, with the Ranger Smith one being my favorite. The best gags to me were Smith getting on a squirrel's case for not having a license to store nuts or his design radically changing every time he passes by a tree.

[@jadenbryant9283]

@Khaled Shanshal eh I like them kinda although not so much with the Jetsons one the voice acting is still pretty good and I did like that they used music ques/tracks from the original yogi Bear cartoon but I do think the jellystone cartoon is better but hey that's my opinion

[@Bothrops_Asper_89]

It's because Ren and Stimpy was probably one of the most influential shows of the 90s along with the Simpsons and South Park. Without R&S there probably wouldn't have been Cow and Chicken, Ahhh real monsters, Courage, Invader Zim and other shows that relied on gross humor. He basically made something that was a major hit and lived the rest of his career off that.

[@heckarockstick802]

nice can profile pic

[@orangeslash1667]

@@connorbeith3232 Fun Fact: Chris Reccardi of the writers of Ren and Stimpy wrote the Party Cruise episode from Chowder were everyone goes fishing and Mundal had an insane look on his face.

[@emmayoung736]

I identify as an anti-pedophile and plan to start a campaign called "Scrap The MAPs"

[@scarletweb2106]

Yeah me too

[@mechajay3358]

It'd a shame, John has a lot of passion for Animation, but his personality ultimately was his undoing.

[@autobotstarscream765]

John did unto those under him what he so hated having done unto him at Funimation: being utterly controlled by the boss's vision, but he was infinitely more cruel about it to rub in the hypocrisy.

[@unstoppableExodia]

He had some involvement with funimation? Sure you don’t mean Filmation?

[@saraschmidt5612]

Probably one of the most comprehensive videos on John K.'s history I have ever watched. Fantastic work!

[@jaggerguth4391]

Might throw it in here, TV Tropes stated that Mighty Mouse never has a "Rogues Gallery" in the original shorts beside Oil Can Harry. that is not true, There were at least two other recurring villains in the shorts. The Catnip gang, a Trio of Cat criminals, and Bad Bill Bunion, A human outlaw.

[@KevinFinkbeiner]

Just the thing I needed to pop up in my feed! Wonderful documentary! 👏👏

[@robertorick6383]

John K., Butch Hartman, Chris Savino, John Lasseteer, Dan Schnieder, Bill Cosby, Rolf Harris, Jimmy Saville, Gary Glitter. Are we seeing a pattern here? I was a big John K, fan, but continuous stories like this continue to break my heart, especially since I once wrote to him, and he answered back saying Bob Camp was a liar, a traitor, and a thief, and I fell for it like a sap! He also stated he hated Steven Spielberg , also has a hatred for Star Wars, and thinks "Animaniacs" is a god-awful cartoon for "morons" (his favorite go-to insult word.) Of course he didn't do that awful "Animaniacs" review in Chris Gore's "Wild Cartoon Kingdom" magazine in 1993 under his real name, rather he used a alias name after a founding father of the U.S. who was also cocky and rebellious (Thomas Paine, or as John called himself, "Tom Paine.") Of all of those sex maniacs, I still think Jimmy Saville was the worst since the whole world didn't find out about it until his death (he even fooled his pal, King Charles The 3rd of The Royal Palace.) Still even if Jimmy and Bill Cosby raped or harrassed far more women than John (John only was accused of harassing two, while Bill was accused of harassing around 60 and Jimmy around 150) , that's still quite an effort to be blamed to be as a (go ahead and say it) groomer. As for John's personal psychology, he got that from his dad, Michael Kricfalusi Sr. , who died in 2020, and was known to be the inspiration for George Liquor and Anthony's dad from "A Visit From Anthony." In other words, he was a macho, self-made, no-nonsense "man's man" from the stereotypical 1950's nuclear family in Canada who abused John when he was a boy, saying he wouldn't amount to anything by being a cartoonist or an animator. The story of Mike Sr. removing the labels from cans from the grocery store and serving them to young John as "surprise meals" was allegedly true. "Cans Without Labels" could very well be considered the "Chinese Democracy" of animated cartoons for the length of time it took to be released, although Axl Rose arguably wasted more time and years on "Chinese Democracy." As much as Robin Byrd can be considered a victim of sexual crime, please don't put her on a pedestal. She is reportedly not a very nice woman to animation fans and has sent out nasty Twitter notes to fans stating that cartoons and animation are bad influences and should be cancelled, especially all "Adult Swim" cartoons, which John K. arguably started a revolution on. She signs such Twitter messages under the name of "Your Mom", and I find that very condesending as an animation fan. True, what happened in her life with John K. should had never had happened, but she doesn't have to take it out on animation fans. Like it or not, John may be a crumb, but the influence of adult animation from "South Park" to "Rick And Morty" wouldn't be the same without his influence. "Ren & Stimpy" launched dozens of other animators careers as a result. One can argue that Bill Cosby served time for his sexual sins and John K. got off free may be because of the color of Bill's skin, but that's another story to debate about. The judicial system in the U.S. can be pretty messed up. For all of John's failures, "Ren & Stimpy" will go down in history as an influential cartoon that changed animation for better or for worse. I find it strange that Weird Al Yankovic and Bjork, two performers that John K. has worked with on musical videos hasn't said anything much about John's details. Have they disowned him today? As for Ralph Bakshi, he can be as pretty profane as John ("Fritz The Cat" has just celebrated 50 years as a notorious film), but it seems that you are right, he played the game correctly. I like John's art today, but not the man himself. How do you separate the man from the myth?

[@repussified]

It's clear today Bob Camp and the other Games staff never had anything to apologize for in staying on R&S. Many of the Games eps are even kinda sorta not all that bad.

[@rockamuse617]

I feel like my interest in Ren and Stimpy is going to end. I feel sorry for the people that worked for this jerk.

[@scarletweb2106]

Yeah me too

[@petramoore9462]

John K is like the prelude to what Nickelodeon would be in the following years. Horrifying

[@BBWahoo]

John K probably kickstarted the creepiness at noncelodeon tbh

[@scarletweb2106]

Heartbreaking 💔

[@ajanimation8239]

And let's not forget that he came up with the infamous "Calarts style" nickname for people who took influence from Disney. It's okay, John. You don't have to worry about the next generation of animators. You've pretty much been blacklisted by every studio out there.

[@TytheGuy44]

Probably the single greatest waste of talent in the animation industry.

[@arbitrarylib]

John K has a thing about inappropriately pushing boundaries.

[@jstevinik3261]

0:27 John K., sadly, will never be behind bars or even face civil settlements, because the statutes of limitation for child r@pe in California have expired for Byrd's and Rice's cases. 3:45 I could see that John K. meant intellectual in terms of using animation techniques that are complex for 1980s, i.e. imitating his fav Bob Clampett, who applied the sketchy/off-model illustrative "George Lichty style" to fast movements. 5:25 Ralph was suggested to use familiar IPs, he said, according to John's retrospective memory, he has a classic character, he was asked which one, and he was thinking and blurted Might Mouse because Ralph started at Terrytoons. CBS eventually found out that CBS bought the rights to Terrytoons IPs decades ago, so no harm no foul. 6:23 According to Thad Komorowski's book "Sick Little Monkeys: the Unauthorized Ren & Stimpy Story", John K. was pressuring his staff to meet his demands, more unique layout (pre-animation) expressions, within the deadlines because Ralph could fire him, so John had to deal with Ralph's scheduling but is thankful that Ralph was the one who shielded the staff from executive bs. John left after the first season for creative differences though. 6:37 If you think this is crazy, according to writer (and future Simpsons director) Jim Reardon interviewed the Mighty Mouse DVD special documentary "Breaking The Mold: The Re-Making of Mighty Mouse", Ralph placed his false teeth on food wrapper that was later thrown away by the cleaning crew, so Ralph had director (and future showrunner of the comedic Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog) Kent Butterworth dumpster dive the studio dump. Ralph was supposed to meet with a CBS censor over upcoming episodes but Reardon had to take over for Ralph. When he the censor was leaving, Butterworth found the false teeth, Ralph placed them back in his mouth, and waved to the leaving executive, "See ya". However, come to think of it, it only interrupted the days of two guys instead of everyone. 7:28 After quintuple, there are 6= sextuple, 7 = septuple, 8 = octuple, 9 = nonuple, and 10 = decuple. 8:09 Other issues with Beanie and Cecil is that negotiations over the licensing with the Clampett family ate up the time necessary to timely complete a regular production, let alone John's style (in which imitating Clampett would need above average time or more hires, even without John's requests for revisions and no repeats of layout posing). 8:29 John calls them non-sequitur jokes, which is common practice even back in the Bob Clampett's tenure at Looney Tunes, according to John, in which having a joke to intentionally be removed would distract the censors of subtle innuendo. 9:13 John would, at least once, put in jokes to be intentionally removed, i.e. Stimpy getting run-over in "Son of Stimpy" in his DVD commentary, and reluctantly accept refusals and thinks of acceptable round-abouts, i.e. coming up with magic nose gobblins and whiz instead of boogers and pee. 11:51 Other factors for the delays was that the show was under-staffed because John was very selective of who gets hired, i.e. only hiring writer and storyboard artist (and recent showrunner of Spongebob) Vincent Waller because he met Bob Camp in high school, and Nickelodeon would battle over trying to remove the lack of continuity and cartoon logic of Ren and Stimpy never having a consistent residence and occupation, during their editing of story outlines, i.e. John would reply "Where did they get the rocket to go in space?" with "I drew it" and spend a snarky reply to notes about cartoon logic in "in a world where cats and dogs talk". 12:30 Nurse Stimpy had to be constantly re-written and was dissatisfied with the final product, but was the only case when in the first two seasons. 13:02 Well not quite anything because when John would argue over the edgy comment he would reply, "well, it's not like they're f***ing or dismembering their limbs". 13:33 I know that N@ked Beach Frenzy was inspired by a fan suggestion (as with Adult Party Cartoon [APC] except Altruists and Stimpy's Pregnant, in which the latter was pitched by Bob Camp of all people but I am not sure if John rejected it in the original run), but I would like to see your source on it being outlined or pitched to Nick for the original show 14:16 John would argue that he does not deserve the blame behind scheduling by citing Nickeoldoen's battling over cartoon logic and crude jokes and "whenever we suggest to make a schedule and budget realistically they reject it, or agree to it but, weeks down the line, change their mind"; thinks Nick is to blame for the scheduling. Hence why he thinks he was PRIMARILY fired over content, when it the content was realistically a convenient excuse to let him go when he semi-consistently got away with missing deadlines (even with deadlines of new half-hours every other week). 14:47 Actually it was closer to a 50/50 split, especially in top-level writers and artists, such as writers Vincent Waller and Richard Pursel, art director Jim Smith, layout artists, such as Eddie Fitzgerald, Elinor Blake, Mike Fontenelli while Bob Jacques's sub-contracted studio Carbunkle Cartoon, for scenes of select episodes, decided to no longer renew its contract with Nickelodeon to "not pick sides" but did APC (though Jacques later regretted it due to issues with not getting paid in time). 18:41 Production issues could be attributed to John deciding to direct every episodes instead of being one of one of many directing units and John having a break-up (oh, God, I wonder from whom). 20:29 John K. did another couch gag in 2015, so he, so John had this, opening title animation for the indie docudrama Utopia Means Nowhere, and Mylee Cyrus music video as bigger priorities during the production of Cans Without Labels. 23:01 If you think this is odd, John had Katie (an adult by this time) participate in the 2004 DVD commentary for Sven Hoek in which he joked about Sven's ball of bandaids, "so Katie, you had a ball of tampons? -Katie: "I was nine [when the episode first aired". I thought John was making joke and did not knew her age (I assumed he invited a co-worker and fan he met around 2003/4, so while I thought it was odd to have someone who did not do the episode but never guessed he was a pred, but good for Katie she is a director on the Animaniacs reboot. 23:37 The sucubus thing was actually his first victim, Robyn Bird, whom she told about it on her Twitter. 23:40 That apeparence on Howard Stern was how I discovered Howard Stern to begin with, in which I and most people assumed that the Howard staff hooted because they thought that John was joking about "and she's underaged too" since p3dos do not out themselves unless they were called by victims. 24:23 John also deflected on bipolar disorder to why he had "impulse issues". Yeah, impulsive issues do make one a p3do. 24:28 Even the Buzzfeed article never said he had an underaged girl during the original show, but the Sick Little Monkeys book referenced an underaged relationship at one point (probably unknowingly referring to Byrd in the late 90s). 25:17 The reboot has been shelved for months and has not started production. In recent interview Bob Camp wanted be involved with such a reboot, citing that Chris Savino and Clearance creator were fired yet the shows they initially led continued airing. Thad Komorowski joked that the reboot idea is possibly just a PR a way for Viacom to not have the first Google results for Ren & Stimpy be the Buzzfeed article or the APC scene of Ren sawing a log off of Stimpy in a s3xual manner. 26:01 John had done some compromises on some story and joke ideas but has not on directing layout artwork because he is borderline obsessed with Bob Clampett cartooning. Background artist Bill Wray said that John initially refused to learn to drive because he worried that his mind would drift into cartooning and risk getting distracted into an accident. 26:35 Bob Camp was a factor, but so are his other top artists and writers, whom had both good and bad episodes (I think those stayed with John deserve a share of the blame for the jokes and stories in APC) while Games was a net reduction (partially due to making stuff just to meet the deadlines and burn out). 27:06 It is his strong vision, in which even he admits he has done numerous mistakes nor comes close to his fav, but that will not stop from trying (re-does stuff to come close to approximating). 27:12 The flower sniffing thing was meant to smell the remnants of a crushed flower, which did not garner any censorship from CBS. It was not until weeks later (towards the end of the second season) when a parental group complained. CBS sided with Bakshi but removed the episode from future airings. This did not cancel the show because the first season did mediocre in the ratings, so Ralph barely convinced CBS to give him a second season (that would be it for good) and the complaints occurred a while after this episode aired, so the series was going to end regardless. 27:16 I can get into some of John's thoughts on perfectionism, a guy who got a 5 on the AP Psychology exam, by noticing that he would mention his fav at least once in almost every single interview/commentary he expressed, or as Bill Wray said, "obsessed" with cartooning. I hope you respect the effort I put into this comment, in which I gave elaborations and corrections to this video. I was somewhat of a John K. fan back in 2012 and behind the scenes acrimony in general, so I have an insight that I now regret wasting time on.

[@brazilianpunk]

Replying to your year old comment... thanks for sharing all that info, it's interesting stuff!

[@johnpaulcastillo8403]

For what he did, why he didn't go to jail for that? I'm surprised

[@loneronin6813]

Given who John K. is as a person, being better than him, at least in that department, shouldn't be a high bar to clear.

[@Gabrhil]

"Prove me right." Well, you're not giving us a high hurdle to jump.

[@DigimontamerB]

Look what he pulled on Billy West on the Howard Stern show.

[@PrincessofPower84]

I did. It was disgusting.

[@pokeydex]

I thought the ripping friends was a fever dream. I now have confirmation that I didn’t imagine it

[@samueleinhorn6713]

I think you were kind-of insinuating that John K. pitched "Naked Beach Frenzy" to Nickelodeon as if he wanted to tell it the same way he did in the Spike TV version. That's not the case. Granted the concept of Ren ogling girls at the beach while frustrating Stimpy is something that Nick understandably didn't feel comfortable with, but that's what Spumco pitched at the time. All the stuff that we saw in the final product is stuff that got piled on top of the original concept under the pretense of not being on a kids network.

[@magnetoonproductions9541]

Stephen Hillenburg and Joe Murray are some good examples of how to play the game in the industry and keep your vision in tact. • In order to keep SpongeBob as an ageless adult instead of a kid, they enrolled him in boating school. • When Nick wanted Rocko to have a young female character in the show and for it to be more moral based, Joe was reluctant, but he complied, which led to the edutainment masterpiece that is Zanzibar and the creation of Dr. Hutchinson.

[@robertorick6383]

Sadly, you can now include the creators of "Rick And Morty" to the list of animators gone bad. Both creators have been charged with domestic assault and other violent tendencies towards fans. Don't forget that infamous McDonald's incident back in 2017 that involved silly mini-riots from crazed fans over schuzan sauce, that McDonalds only made a very limited amount of.

[@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302]

Yea, Joe Murray who made the recent rocko movie about bighead's son being a trunzvestite

[@orangeslash1667]

@@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302 There's also Jhonen Vasquez of Invader Zim fame. Nick hired him to make a dark show, but they're was a lot of censorship because of twisted Jhonen can be.

[@scarletweb2106]

There's Jorge R Gutierrez and Sandra Equihua. They create El Tigre on Nickelodeon

[@rrsaga]

Thanks for going over this because I remember these Mighty Mouse, beanie and Cecil shows. I never cared for them nor honestly his works but I’m familiar with his roots. It had a sense of filmation and ren and stempy.. you can see the transformation between the two

[@JerryListener]

God are you and Kenny Lauderdale related? I love the video and the narration!

[@TheRoomforImprovement]

As an aspiring content creator, I recognize that I can’t make it alone. And while there are some ideas I’m adamant should remain, I recognize the importance of compromise. Im going to refine my ideas, improve my skills and accept any and all feedback . Hopefully I won’t end up like John Krap.

[@scarletweb2106]

Yeah me too

[@anth636]

I don’t feel bad for John K’s actions, but I feel bad for John K being a perfectionist myself. It can be a very stressful cycle. If only he wasn’t so hard to work with and an EDP.

[@adampkalb]

Emotionally disturbing pedophile?

[@Launchpad05]

I can become A bit of A 'perfectionist', myself. But I try to figure out ways to get the job done more efficiently.

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

@@Launchpad05 It's sad he can't do Ren's voice anymore although Billy West does a good impression. I wonder how he's doing nowadays.

[@mitchfletcher2386]

@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Billy West is doing just fine.

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

@@mitchfletcher2386 That's good and I was referring to John K too.

[@leonardolopez888]

Not to mention the fact that on his blog, he would always diss on animated projects that weren’t made by either him, or the directors of yesteryear. He seems to hate everything that’s new. He even infamously disses Animaniacs. You do not diss Animaniacs on my watch. However, his instructional posts on his blog (especially the Preston Blair Advanced Animation instructional posts) are actually quite useful and helpful. But obviously, that doesn’t hide his true pedophilic nature. I’ve very much learned to separate the art from the artist because Ren and Stimpy (the original) is one of my favorite cartoons of all time, and the team at Spumco, (including Bob Camp) are some of the most talented and delightfully imaginative animators I have ever seen, and John K is not one of them. You can love his art style, but as a person, he will always remain as one of, if not, the worst person to work in the animation industry.

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

The Title of the Video makes way more sense and its sort of another way to describe John K.

[@Hammi4Real]

I almost went to an animation festival here in Norway back in 2011 where John K was going to participate and hold a presentation. As much as I wanted to meet him in person at the time, I never bought any tickets. Probably missed out on tons of other things there as well, still kind of glad that I didn't go just for this sad tale of a human being.

[@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302]

Lmao.... good gawd....

[@scarletweb2106]

Oh no

[@PastaMaster115]

I like how you gave the description of Doug with Rugrats footage and the description of Rugrats with Doug footage. lol

[@DennisTamayo]

He should correct his mistake in his update.

[@antonydrossos5719]

I'm actually close friends with a few Classical Animation graduates from the Trafalgar campus of Sheridan College (Shout-Out to Shock Studios!). This was back in the 90s when Ren & Stimpy fame was at it's peak. They really didn't speak highly of John K.

[@scarletweb2106]

That's great

[@bigfart275]

The most interesting thing about the ripping friends is that it used to air back on Adult Swim in the early 2000s, kinda wish it still did, I feel like that one was a nice fit for it

[@jacobturner3059]

Several John K. cartoons had reruns on Adult Swim in the early 2000’s. (Such as his Yogi Bear and Ranger Smith cartoons)

[@Timberwolf0952]

Separating the man from the art, I really do love his style.

[@naranciaghirga2527]

John K invented Ren and Stimpy long before he pitched it to Nick. They were always his characters

[@skipperiffic]

Reboot without John K will never capture the magic of the original. After they fired John K Ren and Stimpy was never the same. His twisted quality made it compelling and subversive. Too bad John couldn’t keep it legal.

[@TheCeraization]

I’ve always disagreed with this take. I’ve rewatched enough of Seasons 3-5 to see that John K didn’t need to be there to still give it some bizarre yet funny moments still.

[@username-mk4qv]

That’s too bad because I actually really love a lot of Bakshi’s films. Heavy Traffic, Coonskin, and Fritz the Cat are some of my favorites. If you want something wholesome, he did a children’s Christmas special that I found oddly enjoyable too.

[@WillCWilson]

You flip-flopped the Doug and Rugrats footage; when you were talking about Doug, Rugrats footage was playing, and when you were talking about Rugrats, Doug footage was playing XD

[@StickySauce101]

I despise people who claim their mental illness or disability makes them a criminal, no.. not how it works.. I have severe mental illness that prevents me working the usual 9/5 (so I do volunteering when I can) and yeah, some conditions can cause problems but that's why you seek help, if you have the ability to know what you are doing is wrong you can *not* blame your condition, since by knowing what you're doing is wrong and doing it anyway you are sane.. an evil person with mental illness is just an evil person who happens to also be ill, the illness rarely (if ever) is the reason for said evil.

[@scarletweb2106]

Yeah me too

[@chavonjames8941]

16:10 the ripping friends was and is SUCH a hidden unlocked memory that I really enjoyed it, it cuz it was on VERY late in the nights with Teletoon at night back in the…2010s?

[@adampkalb]

John Kricfalusi is definitely the Harvey Weinstein of animation.

[@scarletweb2106]

He reminds me of Pixar directors

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

Me and my mom both like The Ren and Stimpy Show just because the creator did something doesn't mean the show itself should be hated. Butch Hartman and Seth MacFarlane are also childhood friends and seriously they're overhated get over it. They're not the ones who wrote the new episodes and seasons of their shows they're being misblamed. Danny Phantom is one of my favorite shows and I like Danny Phantom Season 3 and still want Season 4 of Danny Phantom.

[@Jared_Wignall]

Ren and Stimpy was quite a show to watch as a kid. While the show is enjoyable, boy did John K. ruin his life and legacy big time. And I mean big time. Thank you for making this video man, keep up the great work. Take care!

[@timcombs2730]

Everyone forgets the Troop Beverly Hills Title sequence

[@ThaDocta0623]

If you say Spümco and pronounce it as the letter “U” with an umlaut on top as intended, like in German, it actually sounds like you’re saying “Spermco”. Which makes a lot of sense now that I’m getting a visual on who John K really was. 11:00

[@CJBStudios]

14:14 More like coming from *_Mr. Horse’s mouth_* , am I right?

[@Launchpad05]

'No sir, I didn't like it.' (actually, I did.)

[@scarletweb2106]

I feel sorry for the cast and crew that works for John Kricfalusi

[@NPGLAMB]

When you watch ren and stimpy you can tell he wasn’t a good guy. It’s in plain sight

[@manuelvillagrana5490]

Thank you g