1 - CONSCIOUS IMMORTALITY - CONVERSATIONS with SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI Recorded By PAUL BRUNTON 1935-39

[@Dooality]

Ramana cutting down spiritual materialism again and again. Thank you for creating and uploading.

[@ultrasonika9]

He shows the Most direct route, explains, ive ALWAYS felt this certain way.upon hearing this mans words spoken out by devotees it all ckicked for me , like my feelings even from childhood, were this, about life and what, who i am . We are. Ramana is so awesome,

[@jnananinja7436]

I will share this: There was period in my life spanning a few years where I utilized "ayahuasca" on a very regular basis. Lucky for me I would invariably listen to a recording of Nisargadatta as I would enter and navigate the trance. What I learned is essentially exactly what is presented here. I would constantly try to pull myself out of the overwhelming visions and try to find my center. The big question that I dealt with was.. where are these visions taking place? Somehow it was all contained within my own consciousness, and being liberated from the body made it all the more apparent. Upon coming back to the body and the regular waking state, the question still remained.. where is THIS all taking place?.. and it was more and more apparent, its just modifications of consciousness, contained within the eternal purview and presence of the Self.

[@Lora-G]

Thanks for sharing with clarity your experience.

[@yerpderp6800]

Glad to hear that! It's extremely common for people who take powerful psychedelic drugs to later place them on a pedestal, as if the visions and mind changes is the true reflection of reality. But at the end of the day those are still sensations and thoughts. There's something else, the commonality between those drug-fueled experiences and the regular, that imo is worth more exploring. Not to say there aren't benefits to psychedelic drugs, they can help with long-term mental stability if properly guided, but for spiritual growth you need to be the right sort of person for it + have the fortune of having an experienced realized teacher (something that's practically non-existent when it comes to drugs), a rare combination to begin with.

[@jakeweiler9263]

@@yerpderp6800 You don't need a teacher, especially when you have psychedelics.

The pro-psychedelic plant position is clearly an anti-drug position. Drug dependencies are the result of habitual, unexamined, and obsessive behaviour; these are precisely the tendencies in our psychological makeup that the psychedelics mitigate. The plant hallucinogens dissolve habits and hold motivations up to inspection by a wider, less egocentric, and more grounded point of view within the individual. It is foolish to suggest that there is no risk, but it is equally uninformed to suggest that the risk is not worth taking. What is needed is experiential validation of a new guiding image, an overarching metaphor able to serve as the basis for a new model of society and the individual. The plant-human relationship has always been the foundation of our individual and group existence in the world. What I call the Archaic Revival is the process of reawakening awareness of traditional attitudes toward nature, including plants and our relationship to them. The Archaic Revival spells the eventual breakup of the pattern of male dominance and hierarchy based on animal organization, something that can not be changed overnight by a sudden shift in collective awareness. Rather, it will follow naturally upon the gradual recognition that the overarching theme that directs the Archaic Revival is the idea/ideal of a vegetation Goddess, the Earth herself as the much ballyhooed Gaia-a fact well documented by nineteenth-century anthropologists, most notably Frazer, but recently given a new respectability by Riane Eisler, Marija Gimbutas, James Mellaart, and others. The closer a human group is to the gnosis of the vegetable mind-the Gaian collectivity of organic life-the closer their connection to the archetype of the Goddess and hence to the partnership style of social organization. The last time that the mainstream of Western thought was refreshed by the gnosis of the vegetable mind was at the close of the Hellenistic Era, before the Mystery religions were finally suppressed by enthusiastic Christian barbarians. My conclusion is that taking the next evolutionary step toward the Archaic Revival, the rebirth of the Goddess, and the ending of profane history will require an agenda that includes the notion of our reinvolvement with and the emergence of the vegetable mind. That same mind that coaxed us into self-reflecting language now offers us the boundless landscapes of the imagination. Without such a relationship to psychedelic exopheromones regulating our symbiotic relationship with the plant kingdom, we stand outside of an understanding of planetary purpose. And an understanding of planetary purpose may be the major contribution we can make to the evolutionary process. Returning to the bosom of the planetary partnership means trading the point of view of the history-created ego for a more maternal and intuitional style. From The Archaic Revival by Terence McKenna

[@jnananinja7436]

Permit me add a few additional remarks: While the nature of transitioning into the higher dimensions is absolutely awesome and amazing beyond description, it is also an agonizing experience of something like death in that one must disconnect from both the body and the breath. This is what I consider "surrender", and is necessary for going deep within. The voice/wisdom of a sadguru like Maharshi or Nisargadatta is a great aid during this process. It helps one to find their Center. One of the most fascinating and constant experiences that is worth sharing here is what happens to the "voice" of the guru. The best way I can describe it is that their voice goes from external to INTERNAL. It begins normally, coming through the ears, but at a certain point, their voice undergoes an astounding transition and is heard coming up from deep within, booming up from the source of one's own being, taking on a very different resonance and depth and power. If the voice is not from a realized being, it is very apparent, agonizing to listen to, halting and obviously mind constructed. There are many "gurus" available to listen to nowadays and as far as Im concerned 99% are worthless and do more harm than good. Now let me clarify, the "voice" is independent of the human speaking, such as a translator or reader. The voice of a sadguru is omnipresent, a living wellspring of eternal Truth. This is made obvious during such an experience. The word of the guru are undoubtable in such a state because Truth is your very nature. I should add that there is a utility to these visionary realms, these often divine states of consciousness. Entering them and experiencing their existence can greatly attenuate and assuage a seekers need to know that they are actually there, or here, even if still a construct of one's mind. They are not the final goal, but, rather just another state of conditioned experience to be released. This is especially true of the modern era, where materialism and a denial of such spiritual states is so prevalent and ubiquitous. Lastly, while the visions and beings one encounters during the experience are quite marvelous and never cease to shock one with both their staggering complexity, and strange recognizability, it was the process of getting there that always left me with the most pertinent lesson.. its simply meditation, albeit, forced upon you in this case. The sacred plants, the mysterious medicine, the psychedelic drug, the magical elixir is just a gift you have created for your own self. It exists within your consciousness, like everything, and is there if you need it.. to help show you the way. But ultimately, you dont, you wont, because its all a play of your own nature, and you need nothing to show you what you really are.

[@from-Texas]

Ramana Maharishis message comes through so clearly when you read it. Thank you

[@ultrasonika9]

Yep, TRUTH, OBVIOUSLY, it is . Others talk of this but in different ways , what resonates to one, is the style if you like, i like Ramanas Style very much , its helped me help others , and myself . Epic

[@Imcai14]

All this Jnana Yoga.. Is the Direct Path... Without any distractions, just your self only.. To know Thyself.

[@lomi1556]

Thank you for this wonderful gift, Master lomakayu. It's a delight to hear your comforting voice always. May peace be with you.

[@snowpatch6011]

This is the only teaching required. All Ramana's teachings are identical; know thySELF.

[@mortalclown3812]

It is the only teaching for you.

[@paulstoran7183]

Namaste thankyou thankyou thankyou infinite love light blessings to all

[@onepathmypath2935]

Does not get better than this. Thank you

[@ravivasanthi]

Thank you.

[@micheldisclafani2343]

Through the atoms of our body we are eternal like the universe. When we realize that we are part of everything and everything is in us enlightenment becomes automatic and we see how our life is and works,for now and eternity. I was the sky,I was the sea,I was the wind and I was the tree.This is why I know that I was,that I am and that I will always be. Michel Di Sclafani

[@rajasekarkunjithapatham7021]

Om namo bagavate Sri ramanaya

[@imaginaryuniverse632]

He gives a lot of wise insights. I especially liked his explaining that what we feel as the apparent result of an experience is a feeling that is always available to us and what we see as being the reason is really just our ego's manufactured requirement for having a particular feeling. However, it should be remembered that anything we experience is an illusion within the mind, even the feeling of bliss which is often erroneously referred to as the natural state of the Spirit. Everything that we experience or are aware of is an illusion and our natural state is eternally unknowable even to God and all that appears as a part of God. Nothing is our natural state which has no beginning and never changes even a wee bit. The foundation of nature is nothing which appears as everything. We can choose individually, apparently, to dismiss what we experience as being an illusion and decide that because it doesn't actually exist it has no value. We can also choose to see Creation as being the Glory or beauty of God and enjoy all the flavors of joy that are derived from this illusion of bliss which is where the infinite is expressed from the potential of nothing. Desire is the source of suffering in a narrow view of suffering but desire is also the source of Bliss by the same reasoning. In the beginning was the word and the word was with God, not a thing is made that is not God/Brahman/Universe... . Before the beginning and without a beginning was nothing. What is nothing? No one knows or ever will but it seems obvious to me that there is no bliss in nothing because bliss is definitely something and something in nothing leaves something and you gotta have something if you want to be with me. 🎶💃

[@imaginaryuniverse632]

I'm using the word natural in it's primordial sense.

[@yerpderp6800]

Except it most certainly can be known? It's known every single moment, an eternal moment, there is nothing but that which can be truly known. What it CANNOT be known to is the intellectual mind because it is limited to dualistic thinking, me vs everything outside of me. This is contradictory because the true self is not divisible, it never was, so the dualistic thinking is inherently incompatible as a result. That is why this truth MUST be experienced, for experience is fundamentally nondualistic; the illusion of duality is a relativistic construct, an illusion in itself. One must be extremely careful when using the word "known"... there's the definition of knowing something through the mind, and then there's the definition of knowing through direct experience. Like I can study how an apple tastes like, read others' accounts, have faith it tastes a certain way, study the science and mechanics on how the body tastes it, but none of it would compare to actually tasting an apple. So you can "know" how an apple tastes like, or you can experientially know how it tastes like. Sri Ramana Maharshi is not interested in the former, nor did he ever place an emphasis on it to my knowledge; he was only interested in the latter. I also believe you're mixing up words when you shouldn't be...the only bliss that is borne from desire is sensory pleasure, but the bliss Sri Ramana Maharshi mostly, if not always, refers to is more aligned with contentment. Contentment can only come from acceptance, and acceptance is probably one of the closest descriptions of what our fundamental nature is ("our" being used loosely within the confines of dualistic speech). So bliss is better translated as complete satisfaction, no strings attached (which initially can be experienced as a huge sensory pleasurable moment if the appropriate karmic tendencies are in place but it's not a strict guideline. They also die down the longer you stay in that state because it's inherently equanimous). I'm not sure where you're getting the no value possibility. Thinking that still places it in a dualistic framework because there must be someone to assign meaning in the first place, which shouldn't be possible because even the perceived self would be regarded as an illusion. If you think there's a choice to pick then the absolute truth hasn't actually been seen, there should no longer be a sense of separation at that point. Based on that alone it's questionable if you actually fully realized the fundamental truth or merely caught a glimpse and became entrapped in the common pitfall of intellectualizing the experience (which admittedly I did for a while too). I strongly advise you to stop with your thoughts (because that's what they are) and to return back to practice (and find an experienced teacher if you've been trying to go at it alone).

[@imaginaryuniverse632]

@@yerpderp6800 I am aware that choosing is dualistic. I am pro Creation if you will. I believe Creation was born from the desire of the Creator and all things that are in Creation are from the Father creator born of the "Virgin Mother" who is unknowable even to the Father of Creation which is ourselves. The Mother appears as magnetism in the physical which is often referred to as water in the scriptures. The Father appears as electricity fundamentally in the physical but is also any movement of energy in the physical, often called the Spirit in scriptures. I believe John the Baptist represents the guru within us all who is the seeker of Truth within ourselves without regard for another's opinion. John baptized Jesus in the river Jordan which marked the beginning of his search that ended with him apparently losing his head. Joshua brought the walls of Jericho down after 7 days of trumpet playing revealing a bunch of folks who had to be done away with like the voices in our heads that have no useful purpose. Jacob "confessed" I am Jacob and was blessed and given the name of Israel because it was revealed to him the difference between who is and who he appears to be. After, Jacob's children no longer ate of his Sinew. The Revelation of Jesus Christ to St John tells the same story but the trumpets break seals on letters to churches which are correspondences with our seven energy centers and then, and I think this is where we seem to have a different point of view, St. John learned not to be misguided by the world and then there was no more tears and a new Heaven and a new Earth. "The greatest of teachers won't hesitate to leave you there all alone tied to fate. I alone tempt you. I alone Love you, fear is not the end of this." I was thinking today, if it weren't for our differences we would be all alone. I know that from experience. 🙏

[@joker-mo8cb]

Circles it's all circles. It's nice to talk jive. It's all a trap. It's bondage. These teachings are a trap. Har Har Mahadev!!! Jai Durga Ma!!!♥️♥️♥️🕉️🕉️🕉️🔯🔯🔯

[@imaginaryuniverse632]

@@joker-mo8cb I would say most have no actual opinion and half of those with an opinion believe in overcoming the world and half believe in denying the world. Anyone can claim that their experience is the "true" experience giving the correct opinion and anyone who doesn't share their opinion is ignorant as they say. In the Baghava Gita Lord Krishna said in my opinion as the God head incarnate. No matter what he was written to say it is a man's opinion that wrote it, imo.

[@ishanjoshi11]

thanks for your divine channel. manyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy thanksssssss.

[@ZenMountain]

Thank you!!

[@fourtimez]

The best

[@vaibhavmathur8696]

Thank you for this!

[@juanpadilla3203]

Thank you

[@_eddiecole]

Thanks. This is love

[@meir96]

Thank You! 🙏

[@thepb77777]

For the record, the voice off is not PB, he was British and ended his days in Vevey, Switzerland

[@onepathmypath2935]

Teaching us to free ourselves from practices that turn into enslavement. The Danger is every step in the way, the rope was a serpent, the serpent was a rope, no rope no serpent in the end.

[@joker-mo8cb]

Yeah but that's a practice in itself. It's a trap

[@IronWireMartialArts]

Beautiful! A wonderful share. Thank you my friend, what a gem!

[@georgenzue4876]

Well noted

[@bertibear1300]

Ramana had a beautiful face.

[@anagha.aniruddha16]

🌺🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🌺

[@كميلفياض-ك6م]

🙏🕉

[@muttlee9195]

🕉🙏🕉

[@siriosstar4789]

one of the very few " Real Deals " that have ever graced this planet . Ramanas greatest gift is the Transmission of Self To Self , not any "insight " that may occur in ones mind . Mental insight as delightful as it can be , can also be a trap , meaning one can be come addicted to insight believing that it must be present during a moment of Wakefulness and that the insight leads us to moksha . Insight is the minds attempt at describing expressing the realization of that which is awake to itself . insight is an objective expression of lively silence . it is not a bridge that lead us to some glorious future . Ask yourself this the next time an insight arises in the mind . " was the silence that is always awake, not here prior to the insight " . Ramana was famous for sitting in silence more than for his words , because when the questions were finally whittled down to " who and what am i " the answer must be transmitted in silence from here to here . if words are given as an answer , the mind will follow the words and not realize that they are appearing inside of the answer of consciousness awake to itself . Self knows Self , mind only knows that which is imprinted on it via the senses .

[@1DaTJo]

Excellent

[@gdsomtube1]

I could not understand when you mention that is that awake silence not present before insight … all things are already there but question is when it dawns/understood by oneself Is ‘who I am ?“ whatever the answer/realisation to that question is that not existing before one discovers

[@scmarieange]

🙏☀️🕉️

[@chintamanivivek]

Is there a day that is not the mind?

[@kaceobrwa7039]

everything is vedanta, it’s just vedanta dancing in different forms.

[@alesdostal1]

Paul Brunton was fired from Ramanashram in 1939, he was falsely accused of plagiarism and a conspiracy against Ramanashram by Ramana and his brother. Brunton referred to threats of physical violence, hate, and malicious lies. He attributed these drawbacks to jealousy of his authorial success (1941). Brunton never again met Ramana Maharshi or returned in Ramanashram. Paul Brunton and Ramana Maharshi by Dr. J. Glenn Friesen (online)

[@TheSoteriologist]

Interesting article.

[@spiritlove3351]

🙏

[@taby1975]

It seems incomplete

[@maicolx7776]

It's part one?

[@alankuntz6494]

Just pointers and those are incomplete. If it's not your experience personally don't say it is. Yep

[@bliss5133]

Thanks 💞💎💞yery good! All this Chakra and kundalini Talk..kryia yoga etc. 🙄 of yogananda..is unnessesary..i see. Ramana and papaji are the best💎💫 any opinions?

[@vasudevananthram7394]

Many ways to One. To each his own

[@jnananinja7436]

I agree, but would add Nisargadatta and J. Krishnamurti to your list of the best 🙏

[@bliss5133]

@@jnananinja7436 nisargadatta. Yes!! Krishnamurti i cannot conect

[@jnananinja7436]

@breath life I felt the same way about JK for a long time. I never really connected with some of the books I had of his. But when I started watching videos of his talks I began to finally tune into him, and I do believe he is "There". Im not trying to convince you of anything, but its noteworthy that Nisargadatta himself acknowledged JK's Self Realized state simply by observing him from afar one time in Bombay. 💛

[@bliss5133]

@@jnananinja7436 i know! That he said so💞blessings to u!!!🧚‍♀️💫🌻many are there.. so one is enough😉🎇papaji mooji ramana etc. Are all just great

[@AA12514]

No nonsense Ramana. What would we do without him?

[@franceleeparis37]

Eeerm, I thought you guys were against killing things…. Why is the naked fakir sitting on a leopard skin…hypocrite..

[@sangramjipatnaik5691]

Weather it is Ramana Maharshi aadi Shankaracharya all are greatest idiots and stupid persons who call this fundamental world unreal. Many other people also called the world on real and died but the world was real is real and will remain real for immortality, those who don't respect their bodies their body is also don't respect them that is why Ramana massi died in Cancer and aadi Shankara died before 40 years and those who consider world is real like Gorakhnath and tailang Swami who lived more than 300 years there are many rishi's who are immortely living in physical body even now. One can even see them if he is much advanced in meditation.

[@joker-mo8cb]

I disagree. The rishis gave us many great teachings. I love Ramana Maharshi, but I dont wana sit like a zombie all day with know mind. Its not fun at all or interesting. Ive done it. The ego isnt the enemy. The enemy is the idea that the ego is bad. Its obvious that we are the self, what then after you realize that. Just sit there all day blank. To each their own. Ill stick to the path Im on. No offense Ramana I love you. Har Har Mahadev!!! Jai Durga Ma!!!♥️♥️♥️🕉️🕉️🕉️🔯🔯🔯

[@scamdemicpoliticalvirus1123]

Is it tiger skin 🤣😝

[@ramongomez8849]

🙏🏻

[@groundofbeing9733]

Thank you