What Did Medieval People Think Space Was?

[@medievalmadnesss]

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[@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307]

Well if they where fundamentalist christians they would know just like the ones today because what it was as the bible says! The world is 6000 years old, flat with a dome over it and light attached by god for navigation! 🤦‍♂🤣 Bible still says the clouds are heaven!

[@sleepyjoe9267]

We know Earth is flat, shill. What will your ✡️ masters do with you once they realized they’ve failed again?

[@scottramsay4053]

3:03 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatise Also: when did we change the pronunciation of Geoffrey to 'Joffrey'?

[@mbterabytesjc2036]

While the world wants you to give up on God, He still exists. Without God we are doomed to destruction and madness. With God we can have love, peace, and can develop a morality that allows us, as a people, to continue to live without the hatred and madness of the world viewcwants US to.😊

[@michael-4k4000]

I have a Doctorate from Harvard University on Midevil time. Would love to come e onthe Podcast and teach you. After all I am an expert.

[@samuelwestlund3386]

Medieval diagrams are interesting, because while they often did reflect popular opinion, they were never designed to reflect people's perception of the physical world. Even in medieval times there were still a lot of people who knew that the world was round and that Jerusalem was not the physical center of the world. When we see maps of the world from that time period they are usually meant to represent abstract ideas and religious beliefs rather than accurately illustrate the physical world. Misrepresentations like these were oftentimes deliberate. Accuracy did not become important until the late 1400s when European powers began searching for a sea route to China and India to avoid having to pay tariffs for goods transported along the Silk Road. This is when maps and other diagrams became less abstract and more realistic.

[@mariogiunta1989]

This is such a good take I'm surprised it's not pinned

[@mokkaveli]

Brilliant take. I don't know how I've never realised nor thought of this before. Well done

[@mymiscellaneouscrap1234]

Same with heliocentrism we knew about that in Ancient Greek times and we knew it in the medieval era. Learned men knew about it but Christian priests didn’t want yhe public to know.

[@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307]

But the bible still says the world is flat with a dome over it that god attached lights too an dit hides in the clouds! AKA HEAVEN! LOL SCARED O IRON CHARIOTS WHICH DEFEATED IT! LOL

[@arthas640]

There were some early accurate maps. The first portolan chart we've found was from the 13th century and is accurate enough to be usable to sail the Mediterranean today. People tended to rely less on accurate maps back in the day though and rather used more navigational charts since they're easier to use for accurate navigation since any map detailed enough qould need to be huge or you'd need many maps which could get expensive in the days before mechanized papermaking or the printing press, which is also why even into the early modern period maps could be much more vague than today's maps, more of a "this is kind of what the coastline is shaped like, and the mountains are in this vague location"

[@ItsJustMe0585]

Gotta give them props for what they did with very little tools or previously established knowledge. They weren't stupid as so many believed, just had a much harder go at learning.

[@MackNcD]

they had a smaller archive of mistakes already made, so they had many more to make. and... in the future's retrospect, so did we.

[@Dylan-kw8pz]

Absolutely, less available knowledge and less tools to work with. Today's people only know things based off of what they've heard. Not many people go out and actually observe

[@AlisonBryen]

Without their work and discoveries, our knowledge of the universe would not be as advanced as it is today

[@mattr.1887]

100%. I don't think everyone back in the day was hopelessly stupid.

[@treystephens6166]

@@mattr.1887sometimes it’s better to be stupid 🤪

[@Frosty_tha_Snowman]

Wan-Hu, a wealthy Chinese official, tried to send himself to the moon by gathering every rocket he possibly could - bought almost every bit of gunpowder available in his region. He strapped these rockets to his chair, and had hundreds of his followers there to witness this undertaking, and when it all lit, there was so much there, it ignited as an explosion, and the resulting blast vaporized and dissipated him so completely, that his followers were convinced that he'd made it to the moon. Thus: the man on the moon.

[@jplonsdale7242]

Is this true?

[@Frosty_tha_Snowman]

@@jplonsdale7242 100%

[@ZeroFische]

I bet everyone had their mouths open during the explosion.

[@tearsintherain6311]

@@EdwardSnortin edgelord

[@SCSilk]

Tbis is just a legend.

[@MickPosch]

Hundreds of years later, we have technological advances that these people couldn't have imagined. And people who believe that the Earth is flat.

[@Procopius464]

We also have lots of people (mostly women) who still believe in all that astrology and star sign nonsense.

[@PrecisionCalc]

​@@Procopius464 Both of these beliefs bother me with how stupid they are. I swear these people are just bored

[@Procopius464]

@@PrecisionCalc A lot of people really are stupid.

[@mkaz3997]

And people who believe in dark matter and dark energy! 😆

[@bencarleto8443]

@mkaz3997 Oh yeah for sure. All those theoretical physicists with PHDs are totally stupid for believing in it

[@Harbinger1776]

Excellent video as always. One of my best parts of the week is just taking 10-15 minutes and listening to one of your videos. Thanks for what you do and please keep doing it.

[@Fray-Bentos]

This is by far one of my favourite channels to watch on KZbin. The effort that you put into each video is insane and it shows your love of the subject. I

[@newyardleysinclair9960]

Just think. Light pollution was not a thing during this time. So the heavens looked much more brighter than they seem now

[@MerkhVision]

And the milky way was visible to the naked eye! Imagine how beautiful and awe inspiring that would be!

[@Bolanboogie10]

Great point.

[@AttackOnFullMetal]

Just go anywhere very rural and you can experience the same view.

[@uncletiggermclaren7592]

I used to spend my school holidays on a pacific island that, in those remote days, had only gas lantern or MAYBE battery powered light at night. When we would walk along to the long-drop toilet in the scrub at the edge of our property, some nights it would be overcast an black as ink, and you needed a torch. However, on a clear night, and especially in the winter when the milky way was high in the sky * the path was quite obvious without a candle the star light itself was easily sufficient to walk about with. You could watch the US and russian satellites pass across the sky, and, if you looked closely, see Skylab** slowly grow brighter then dimmer in the three minutes it took to cross the heavens. That was because its apparent angle of reflection changed so much between the horizon and zenith. Now, imagine my surprise when I was first far out in the pacific at night, on a clear night, the least light polluted place you can go now, without you join an Antartic expedition. The stars from the deck of a yacht there, are a blaze of glory that would astound you, elevate you. The Numinous. *which tells people who have been paying attention which hemisphere I was in :P The same place as the poem of the man. Where the air is clear as crystal, and the white stars fairly blaze. At midnight in the cold and frosty sky. ** Which tells you WHEN I was young. Horribly long ago.

[@uncletiggermclaren7592]

@@MerkhVision Come on holiday to New Zealand, or Australia* if you want stars. You can, from our main city Auckland, if you know where to look, see the Clouds of Magellan with your naked eye. If you go outside the cities, you will get your Milky Way and no mistake. * I wouldn't advise that, the place is full of Australians. :)

[@cookieraider2182]

It be great if there was a video game like this that followed the logic of medieval era scholarship. Humors, star charts, demonic familiars, sounds like it would make a great setting.

[@claudiovenancio8462]

Representations of animals with a strange appearance.

[@frostreaper1607]

Medieval Dynasty, Kingdom come deliverance ( has a quest in a monastery) and perhaps Manor Lords. Also worth checking out is Mount and Blade 1 and 2.

[@AttackOnFullMetal]

​@@frostreaper1607i was also going to mention kingdom come

[@AttackOnFullMetal]

Pentiment is another good one!

[@rafaelluciano5596]

You might like SMT 4

[@farpointgamingdirect]

I always liked the woodcut of the shepherd at the edge of the world taking a peek under the clouds to see the mechanism of the universe

[@paulannable3734]

That’s what smoking Salvia feels like.

[@4TheWinQuinn]

That’s what sniffing WD40 is like

[@SandyRiverBlue]

3:02 The words behind the teacher say "Silence!". The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[@Fat12219]

So right 😮

[@philhobrla8489]

“The Discarded Image” by C.S. Lewis is a good ‘deep dive’ on this subject.

[@thebrownbanana7863]

If I was a medieval person I'd probably think I was tripping balls looking at space.

[@redneckroy8947]

Probably would be fromm the wild mushrooms you foraged

[@MilitantPrepping]

You would probably have no idea what tripping balls means, or what tripping was. You’d probably think it’s the same sky you’ve seen since you were a child and you’d be too busy working to give it a lot of thought. What I find interesting is here we are 25 years later and people still say “tripping balls” I wonder does it still have the same meaning?

[@redneckroy8947]

@@MilitantPrepping you have a very self centered and modern worldview. As if people before internet never understood anything. Bless you heart.

[@MilitantPrepping]

@@redneckroy8947 … so you’re saying you think people in medieval times understood and regularly used terminology that came out of a counterculture associated with something that wasn’t discovered until the mid 20th century? Your snap value judgement needs work, I can objectively tell you my world view is less self centered than the majority of people you will ever meet. I’ve got plenty of faults, you’ll get no argument from me there, but egocentrism is not among them.

[@robbremer7090]

You should read the book, “Bread of Dreams.” The author proposes most people in medieval times were in fact, tripping balls, because of all of the herbs they used in their bread that had psychedelic properties in them.

[@neilhales4693]

I don't know who said it but he wasn't wrong: "the history of cosmology is the history of being completely wrong". Thank God that we've got it right now.

[@davidjones3226]

😂

[@NickRoman]

lol I see what you did there.

[@aemar-w8c]

Yep😂

[@jnielson1121]

The question of what medieval people thought space actually was is *really* interesting - but the only answer here is one line about concentric transluscent spheres. I'd like to hear a deep dive into that. What did they think the actual structure and mechanics of the 'heavens' were? That would be fascinating.

[@kralik394]

Dante's Paradiso touches on it a bit more, iirc. It isn't anywhere close to a scientific text, even when it was written, but it does cover the belief system about the heavens. Be warned, though: it's a lot more difficult to get into than the Inferno.

[@SpottedSharks]

The translucent spheres with planets attached to them is an idea from the Greek astrologer Ptolemy from the 2nd century AD. It was pretty widely accepted among European and Arabic scholars and it was part of Church dogma. The model imagined a series of nested solid spheres with Earth at the center. The moon, sun, and major planets were attached to these spheres. They turned in such a way as to appear to an earth observer that they orbited Earth (geocentrism). The model allowed astrologers to predict the future position of planets with reasonable accuracy considering that their measurment devices were quite crude. Geocentrism held sway for about 1400 years even though scholars knew Ptolemy's model had serious flaws. Most of the research they conducted was into ways to patch up these deficiencies to make the model more accurate. For example, its prediction for Mars' position was often wildly incaccurate (due to the planet's apparent retrograde motion). This flaw was patched by assuming Mars was attached to a second smaller translucent sphere which in turn was attached to the primary sphere which moved Mars around Earth. In the 16th c. Tycho Brahe built the largest equipment for measuing the positions of the stars and planets. His were the most accurate measurements ever obtained prior to the telescope. It allowed his professional frenemy, Johannes Kepler, to better quantify the gaps between Mars' observed position and the one predicted by Ptolemy's system. Like others before him, Kepler tried to reconcile these gaps by modifying Ptolemy's model but nothing worked. Instead, he took the remarkable step of discarding the system altogether and opted for a sun-centered model as proposed by Copernicus in the 15th c. (and by Aristarcus 1800 years earlier). When Kepler further assumed Mars had an elliptical orbit around the sun, Mars' observed positions matched the ones predicted by this model perfectly. Kepler's First Law of Planetary Motion forms the foundation of modern astronomy and even science itself.

[@jnielson1121]

@@SpottedSharks ah, thank you! I was at a lecture yesterday where they showed some diagrams from Copernicus and similarities to diagrams from centuries older Islamic texts that had added to Hellenistic ideas. I wrote (a bit) about Tycho Brahe in my undergrad - his having two separate teams of data collectors that weren't allowed to interact - one for a first floor observatory and one for an observatory dug into the ground to eliminate vibration - in part to be able to detect sources of error. Clever chap. Do you know which of Ptolemy's texts he discusses the transluscent spheres in by any chance?

[@kaidorade1317]

Space! The medieval frontier!

[@Fat12219]

Medieval times 😮

[@matthewtopping2061]

4:30 That would be pretty freaky to go back to like 1390 and see everyone in a room with this exact face

[@jakejake708]

Imagine how wild it must've felt going from, who knows how big earth is to, it's figured out

[@heavensplayer]

Pass me the joint

[@jamesbennett5587]

Now imagine that it still isn't figured and the same people who " figured it out " think they evolved from ape yet will try to argue for or go against morality or immorality instead of sticking towards survival like the rest of the animals. Ahh such an imagination.

[@j.a.weishaupt1748]

@@jamesbennett5587Dude. Evolution has been definitely proven for more than a century. Time to stop swallowing everything a 2000 year old book tells you. And no: evolution doesn’t mean we descend from monkeys. Try reading a bit more about it before criticizing it.

[@LendriMujina]

It's easy to forget just how unknowable space is even in the modern day. Scientists still thought the universe only extended to the edge of the Milky Way as recently as the 1920s.

[@percyjones8376]

When they launched the James Webb years years of theories (guesses based on other guesses) were proven bs…

[@Ole_CornPop]

​@percyjones8376 no they weren't..... You must listen to Kent Hovind. 😂

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

@@percyjones8376🤦‍♂️

[@I_am_a_cat_]

Its "easy" to forget??? Just look up while outdoors. There is a massive reminder.

[@Professional_Human]

@@I_am_a_cat_ The first galaxies seen in the 1600s were thought to be nebulae INSIDE the Milky Way galaxy. Astronomers didn't realize that those fuzzy star clusters were their own separate galaxies until the 1920s

[@davidmccann9811]

The ancient or medieval concept of the cosmos can seem ridiculous today. But who knows, in 500 years time our scientific concept of the universe or reality may seem equally naive or ridiculous to out distant descendants.

[@NeovanGoth]

I think this is an oversimplification, because what happened in between was the development of the scientific method, which for the first time in human history allowed to gain _actual_ knowledge (and not just good guesses) by _testing_ theories for correctness. Newton's laws of gravity, Einstein's relativity, or quantum mechanics will never turn out to be _wrong_, but rather _incomplete_. In many of such cases we even already know about the incompleteness, as we know in which regimes the theories break down or start to contradict each other, even if we don't know (yet) how to fix it.

[@angryjalapeno]

​@@NeovanGoth The scientific method had already been in practice 3000 years ago by a number of ancient civilizations. But with any method, you have to start with assumptions and those assumptions could be not quite right. The viewpoint of Einstein's relativity is stunningly different from the Newtonian viewpoint; it's not just adding a few extra terms to a Taylor series sort of thing or incompleteness. It wasn't a simple correction; it is was a revolutionary realization. Similarly with quantum mechanics. It wasn't a simply straightforward layering on top of older theories. It was revolutionary. I feel one day, relativity and quantum mechanics will be superseded as well not gradually but suddenly.

[@NeovanGoth]

@@angryjalapenoI think you misunderstood me. Of course Relativity uses a completely different mathematical framework than Newtonian mechanics, but the outcome is practically identical for the limiting case of weak gravitational fields and low velocities. It's still perfectly fine to use Newtonian to calculate say the trajectory of an artillery shell. Same with quantum mechanics. Classical theories didn't suddenly stop to work with the advent of quantum theories, only their uses cases were limited.

[@therealCamoron]

​@@NeovanGoth came here to say this

[@davidjones3226]

I think you are right, if we are still here in some form. We are missing something fundamental.

[@kellyshomemadekitchen]

Your intro makes me feel like I’m right on a medieval battlefield with a cold wind blowing! Love your channel and all that you do! 💜

[@rxpterr]

me too ❤️

[@Amadeu.Macedo]

Fabulous! After deep Antiquity, the early Middle Ages (a.k.a. Late Antique until circa 700 CE/AD) are among my favorite historical eras.

[@leadingauctions8440]

Now this is a fascinating video concept even I had not thought about

[@paulwilson3476]

I remember watching a flat-earther explain away comets and meteorites by saying they are put up there by "The powers that be" with rail gun technology. Presumably, Medievals didn't have rail guns sooo....... Anyway, I bring this up because the title of this Medieval Madness was the very same question that came up in my mind when I watched that interaction. Awesome, informative video.

[@colxn]

It is kind of silly how flat earthers don't even have the astronomical understanding of people that came 400 years before them

[@PeachysMom]

@@colxn I find it pretty disturbing.

[@michaelhanford8139]

Come on! *everyone* knows it was the ancient Egyptians' alien overlords that had the meteor-slinging rail guns.

[@h.a.9880]

It's simply insane when you realize that average people a thousand years ago had a better understanding of what the world was like than some people living today.

[@Sorrowdusk]

@@colxn I think most of them, or some *significant* number are just trolling. While a smaller number are fools.

[@jeffalanvasconcellos3039]

Interesting video. The continued learning in knowledge.

[@Philip_Taylor]

4:42 I like how the artist has painted them all with the same messed up eyes, like they've been reading by candlelight for too long.

[@Transilvanian90]

Excellent video!! Also particularly loved the music with this one, it made me feel like I was at the Mages' College in the Imperial City (Elder Scrolls Oblivion); absolutely excellent work! :D

[@tinasmith1391]

The telescope was invented in 1608. Imagine how terrifying it must have been to watch a sunset with it for the first time. To see the sun disc be obliterated as it crashed into the earth and disappeared.

[@ufoludDziad]

and then they wake up and then there's a new ball again and the cycle continues

[@thenathanimal2909]

Now I'm no astropologist, but I don't think you can look at the sun directly with a simple lens telescope, at least not for long hahaha

[@tinasmith1391]

@@thenathanimal2909 I said sunset...

[@neapolitantea]

Don’t think they would have been terrified. The people of 1608 knew the Earth was round, they just thought the Sun orbited the Earth.

[@JoeM343]

But this can be seen with the naked eye... Were you drunk when you wrote this?

[@ملبدبالغيوم]

I liked the narrator's voice and tone.. a very good documentary, thank you.

[@Bdkdklllvv]

I looked up this Merton university and they are STILL a functioning university 750 years later! 😮

[@davidevans3227]

my father went to Merton college, Oxford, uk.. when j r r Tolkien worked there ..and was taught by him..

[@JerryListener]

Wondrous!! I pray thee aquire subscriptions many!

[@TheIfarted]

Its 3:30 am and im watching what people thousands of years ago think what space was… ahh the youtube rabbit hole

[@1pcfred]

The Middle Ages was less than a thousand years ago. Thousands of years ago is the time of the earliest human civilizations. We don't stretch back very far into time at all.

[@Tubular899]

Good work, keep it up!

[@leovillaverde7547]

1:35 "In the middle ages almost everyone believed that what happened up in the stars affected their daily life" 😂😂😂 same in 2024

[@PraveenSrJ01]

That is what Donald Trump still believes

[@Komrad_Yuri]

​​​​@@PraveenSrJ01I can tell you dont work for a living. Go shit on the street. 😂

[@ProfessorDarkAcademia]

Beautiful art choices, and very detailed visual definition.

[@nickscurvy8635]

I wonder if one day historians will be making slick 4 dimensional hologram videos asking what 21st century people thought space was.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Space is dimension. A four-dimensional hologram exists already: it's a three-dimensional hologram that changes over time.

[@Sambxyz]

Many millennia ago, people perceived the night sky as a velvet dome. The stars were pinpricks in the velvet which allowed the light of Heaven to shine through. I thought this was a splendid explanation!

[@MrNegativecreep07]

Funny how the stereotype of the medieval church was one that suppressed science and learning, whereas the truth was the complete opposite.

[@Newjerseyblows]

They would only torture and burn alive heretics 🤷‍♂️

[@treystephens6166]

Satan trying to make Christianity look bad!!!

[@smith1008]

its not as simple as that

[@BudravenOG]

@@treystephens6166 Haha right?! They don't even need Satan to look bad.

[@Nunyo-Bizznez]

Thats the fault of enlightenment thinkers for the most part. They're largely who spread rumors about both medieval and religious primitivism. They're also part of the reason why you think nothing worthwhile happened in the dark ages. The enlightenment thinkers were rich boys hopped up on coffee who wanted to believe they were the smartest and special-est boys who ever lived, and that they were living at the peak of history, as if nothing was ever going to be better that it was then. The peak of all history and it was all because of them, a bunch of little lord Fauntleroy boys high on caffeine. Lol.

[@TheDrivebynerf]

One of your best vids..thumbs up

[@antihipsterboho]

This channel is worthy of 10 fold the current views.

[@zrwz66]

My absolute favorite channel.

[@jsmcguireIII]

There have been times when I've be camping in the high country and on a moonless night the depth, vastness and scale of the night sky is emotionally overwhelming. It always seems to strengthen my protective feelings toward our tiny island of lush forests and bright seas. People through the ages must have been transfixed by what disappeared in the day but was eternally there waiting to remind them of God or a creator or what it is that is existence in a place so vast.

[@brianSalem541]

See a KZbin video 'Aurora Borealis' by 70s vocalist CW McCall. Quite emotional.

[@chickenoriental1210]

Lies

[@brianSalem541]

@@chickenoriental1210 what do you mean?

[@jsmcguireIII]

@@chickenoriental1210 Read John 13:34. Get out of your Mom's trailer for a solo hike in the high Sierra. You can do this kid.

[@grunge6909]

Greatest video title of all time. Instant like and sub 🔥

[@karkovice10]

Wow! Those Medievals were less ignorant about the mysteries of the cosmos than I originally thought! 🙂

[@bobnewmanknott3433]

And thus speaks an American !

[@koriw1701]

You may have answered this question before, but why do so many medieval people shown in art have pockmarks on their faces? Does it have to do with the continual diseases during the era or could it have possibly been from a perceived imperfection when compared with God on these artworks?

[@christopherlawley1842]

Pox was a very common disease and with no means of combatting it...

[@simphobic1373]

They were doing meth.

[@GillfigGarstang]

Smallpox, probably.

[@SofaKingShit]

I guess the perceived imperfections were far more readily apparent back then due to mostly ineffective treatments and not much in the way of hospitals or funeral homes to cart the dead or dying off to. And as the comment above mentions, probably smallpox was the cause of those blemishes, and also quite possibly syphilis.

[@mymiscellaneouscrap1234]

SMALLPOX

[@markwiygul6356]

Medieval People had zero idea that there was any "space" anywhere (a vacuum)

[@galloe8933]

4:23 Popeye, and his minime talk astrogeology to the room. 8:21 Beavis and Butt-Head smash a helmet with a hammer as a stunned horse looks on. 10:19 The 50 cent of 1050ad shows his banditry-banging scars off, and at 10:31 we can clearly see that the stars above have a sick crab tattoo on their chest, a wicked scorpion on their groin, and are not circumcized. I love these videos.

[@warriorKing2233]

What about the priests offering pizza and cookies to the stars at 5:00

[@evaswritingvault3066]

Yay! I was waiting all week for a video from this channel!

[@Truthunsealed]

Sister be very careful of this channel because I see no truth in it.

[@davidevans3227]

it's amazing what you can do just by thinking

[@Urmomikus]

What’s that?

[@thewasatch208]

Bless you man! Great timing

[@jim-wr3lp]

keep in mind that timmy bumfuck the serf didnt live in a smoggy modern city with shitty blue leds shining glorious light pollution into the firmament so he got to see the galaxy every night

[@Johnny_Vee]

How very interesting! and well articulated. I'm so glad to have found your channel, liked and subscribed.

[@crewrangergaming9582]

the more you learn about the Universe, it becomes more mysterious and divine

[@gowdsake7103]

Divine ? really. The gawd gawn an done it fallacy because ignorance

[@dredeth]

Fool. Then you didn't learn.

[@crewrangergaming9582]

@quad849 What is YOUR definition of learning? For me learning is observation and experiment to come to conclusions about something.

[@crewrangergaming9582]

@quad849 There are layers upon layers of new information in this Universe. You find out what atoms are, now you have subatomic particles to work with, you figure those out now you have quantum mechanics to figure out, you find out what solar system is you have a whole galaxy to understand, and it just keeps going on and on. That is why I mean by the more we learn the more we realize this Universe is vast and there's so much to learn, and so little time.

[@andrewaldrich3602]

😂

[@johnishikawa2200]

Back then nobody had a clue that the earth is actually a lovely blue and white marble as viewed from space . Nobody had any idea what a star was , although the mathematician and natural philosopher Giordano Bruno began to suspect that the stars are distant suns .

[@nullstress]

Medieval people did indeed have some funny thoughts about the stars, but the thing is, before you can reach for the stars, you gotta build a telescope first. At least these medieval lads didn't have to listen to raid shadowlengends ads.

[@chrischriskidnicky6088]

They had raid shadow legends but it was a board game,not a phone game

[@roytee3127]

Astronomers in the Medieval period and going back to antiquity saw and understood that the motions of the planets didn't fit their notions of circles and epicycles. But they were hamstrung by their philosophical beliefs that the Earth was the center of Creation and that things in the Heavens had to be perfect, and that the circle was the only shape that was perfect enough for bodies in the Heavens. Galileo with his telescope lobbied for the idea that the Heavens weren't so perfect after all, but astronomers had all the information they need to describe the motions of heavenly bodies without the telescope.

[@toddsullivan6962]

One of the best channels on KZbin

[@mdpope8405]

5:19 am but i simply must know what mediaeval people thought space was

[@davidevans3227]

it's now Monday morning.. What did they think of space??! 🙂 x

[@TheeSultanaa]

sooo interesting 🤩

[@luxtigris]

This was your best work to date. They had more knowledge back then than we do now. I was definitely born in the wrong time period. Current year is idiocracy on acid.

[@jeanmarieboucherit7376]

Thank you.Very interesting.

[@iainballas]

I hope you do more medieval jokes and humor in the future! There were some real zingers. Maybe a video on the graffiti Romans left in Egypt, and just all over the place in general?

[@jonnyqwst]

Imagine all the superstitions we live our lives by

[@futuristica1710]

Yes, indeed. “Capitalism is natural”, bwahahahaha! People are so strange 😂

[@jonnyqwst]

@@futuristica1710 what the fuck do you know about any kind of reality?

[@Christian-fy5dz]

Faith and science are still and always have been intertwined.

[@KEMET1971]

The title should be: What Did Medieval Europeans Think Space Was?

[@davidevans3227]

what did they think it was?

[@charliestubbs6151]

The word medieval exists to describe European history.

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

A tower of turtles supporting the flat disk which is planet earth

[@KEMET1971]

@@charliestubbs6151 Really? Maybe you need to research the terms Medieval Asia and Medieval Africa.

[@InterestingFacts10]

if you go further back in time, the knowledge about the stars actually increases 😮

[@ashleys7413]

Where do you find all the medieval artwork?

[@ctylsh1214]

have you tried the internet

[@dos1763]

@@ctylsh1214 lmao

[@hatetoregister34]

subtle genius in your videos

[@davidevans3227]

so what did they think of space?

[@nighthawk7034]

They believe it had an affect on their lives. Calenders heaven ect

[@CarstenVsTheMarket]

I didn’t expect myself to be binge watching a bunch of videos about medieval times this week ha ha thanks

[@SuneSkeel]

Well.. We don't really know about dark matter I would say 😏

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

We observe an effect, though.

[@j.a.weishaupt1748]

We have no idea what it is and how it works. But we can see its effect on the universe.

[@hourslookingsideways7850]

I really like this channel.

[@urasam2]

“Joffrey”?

[@turnerjmulletboy]

I had to scroll way too far to find this. SAY IT PROPERLY

[@kevanhubbard9673]

Technically Uranus is just naked eye but I don't think that anyone realized it was there prior to Herschel.As it's so dim it'd be hard to tell it apart from all the faint stars let alone see it's movement against said stars.Hard to know what they thought the stars are or the band of the Milky Way but the vastness is mind boggling to us let alone them.

[@Robespierre-lI]

Subtle, but interesting point

[@jameslyddall]

They’re still smarter then your average American flat earther

[@stuartmcalpine9468]

These days they might be smarter than the average American. Badoom Boom!

[@j.a.weishaupt1748]

*than

[@AlFonso-p6p]

The flat earth is backed by the Bible that is backed by archeology. Your NASA uses cgi to make up the rest. Scientist have been exposed making up numbers in distances. There's tons of fraud in evolution hoaxes that biology books and museums refuse to correct in textbooks.

[@koberay17]

What is the background music/choir called @ 1:20?

[@GeneralGayJay]

Medieval times were 500 years ago. That nothing compared to the age of the universe.

[@PraveenSrJ01]

It is like an electron compared to the size of the earth 🌍

[@aloedg3191]

On Diddy

[@AlFonso-p6p]

Approximately 6,000 years ago 👍

[@jacobmartinelli7496]

i think they thought like that because they were trying to describe something psychological and practically waited for potential to change to be validated by interpretation, like an exhausted mindset. it makes sense why they lost their minds whenever people changed. the "purest" people probably didn't know the difference between being manipulative and people feeling helpless and anxious to change by accommodating circumstantial differences to live differently...

[@Silversorcerer]

RIDDLED WITH ADS!! an 11 minute video shouldn't have 5 AD BREAKS!! That's two ads every two minutes!! I can tell it's you and not KZbin, because the ads are placed at the end of each of your labeled sections. I honestly got nothing from your video because the constant interruptions make it unwatchable!

[@420deadbirds4]

I bought KZbin premium so I don't see all the ads (I understand why someone wouldn't though it's ridiculous to pay just to not hear ads but I use KZbin way too much) but if that's really the case then that is just insane. I'd understand one and for this video length but five?

[@topkek996]

Adblock

[@gowdsake7103]

Aint too bright are ya bub ! there are ad blockers out there

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@gowdsake7103 Those don't work on videos.

[@jjwkk2183]

KZbin has a system in place which detects breaks in the video and the complexion of a video to determine when an ad is appropriate to place. You’ll notice that often when a video fades to black that is when an as comes in, which is simply the system detecting that change.

[@quinnzel316]

i think about this every single night

[@charlieclark9552]

Gods creation

[@hackman669]

🦏🐆🐎🐷🐐🦘🐥🦢🦤🐳🦕🦆🐥🦤🦖🦆🦉🦤🐊🦉🐢🐳🦜🦉🦈🦜🦜🦢🦉🦉🐳🦕🦜🦉🪶🐢🦖🦕🦜🦢🦤🐊🦕🐸🦢🪶🦎🐢

[@gowdsake7103]

What created god !

[@charlieclark9552]

@@gowdsake7103entropy

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@charlieclark9552 Entropy is Israelite?

[@j.a.weishaupt1748]

Nice. Someone who’s stuck in medieval times is commenting on KZbin. That is just awesome.

[@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f]

Excellent . .. !

[@smallstudiodesign]

You know they didn’t have? They didn’t have any light pollution at night, nor air pollution in the air - bet’chya what they saw on a moonless night was a crazy high. ✨👁️👁️✨

[@ryanlyle9201]

It's scary how people just saw lights in the sky, aligned them with the year and said "Gemini...arms...Libra...kidneys" and people still follow horoscopes.

[@josephsolowyk7697]

They were vastly more intelligent than us most people can’t tie a knot let alone use an astrolabe.

[@kastriot3017]

I thought the title of the video was “What did medieval people think of Star Wars?” lol

[@randelbrooks]

I wouldn’t call it madness progress was always being made and still is

[@davidmb1595]

I agree. Probably a thousand years from now, people will be calling “madness” a lot of what we think of as science.

[@randyg.7940]

​@@davidmb1595nope. It will be called progress 😅

[@tom1644x]

Their answers were often wrong, but they had ancient and complicated ways of finding them.

[@Trag-zj2yo]

And the theological madness continues still

[@gowdsake7103]

Flat earthers exist as well

[@ballaking1000]

0:39 wow, that could've definitely been reworded. “I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” Richard P. Feynman

[@Absaroka]

Wow

[@NguniPrince]

The presence of science just confirms the presence of God.

[@andrewaldrich3602]

😂

[@j.a.weishaupt1748]

…how… how does science confirm God? And which god exactly?

[@NguniPrince]

@@j.a.weishaupt1748 so you think all this is random. You think it’s random that earth is in quarantine within our galaxy. Think about it.

[@j.a.weishaupt1748]

@@NguniPrince I didn’t say any of that… But to answer your questions: I don’t know, and what the heck do you mean with earth being in quarantine within our galaxy? Now please answer my original question.

[@rvangaal7859]

Medieval mind is very under estimated the curtain fell with enlightment

[@gazz12]

the understanding of the cosmos goes back many thousand years if you look at sites like göbekli tepe which is astronomically alligned at the sunsets during the equinoxes and carvings of animals that reflect the constellations. that thing is like 12.000 years old. many other ancient sites gaze precisely at their cellestial counterpart in the sky and incorporate some astronomical features in their architechture (angkor wat, pyramid in chechen iza, the pyramids in giza, the great sphinx, stonehenge) and many more. civilization goes back way further and was more advanced than mainstream academia teaches us in schools. some knowlegde was clearly lost and progress got reset during the last ice age. cheers

[@jayfermin7449]

In 700 years, if we haven't done ourselves in through warfare. They too will say that we were primitive and come up with technology that we never even dreamed of.

[@multiyapples]

I disagree with intro. As a Christian I believe science and religion coexist.

[@gowdsake7103]

Then you have zero reasoning skills Religion equals faith. Name a single position that can be correct, good or bad based on faith alone

[@Daryavahush]

​@@gowdsake7103 religious people have zero reasoning skills, just because you need to have faith in order to believe in religion? what?

[@AlFonso-p6p]

Exactly. Our educators today are telling us that a man can be a woman... I think I'll stick to my Bible for facts thanks

[@johnpro2847]

11:15 Even the most learned men of the time got some things wrong...a slight understatement

[@Krushtykon]

What do modern people think space is?

[@jamesb.9155]

Some insist no one went to the moon, so it suggests a wide range of possible interpretations and 'thoughts' !

[@gowdsake7103]

I virtually empty 3 dimensional area outside of the Earths atmosphere

[@gowdsake7103]

@@jamesb.9155 Well some insist that Astrology, Tarot and crystal healing are real, human stupidity is boundless

[@jamesb.9155]

@@gowdsake7103 I don't see anybody mentioning such topics here.

[@musicstewart9744]

Almost read this as “What did Medieval people think of Star Wars?” 😉😉

[@kastriot3017]

Same lol

[@mindspace3863]

I believe creation is direct evidence of God's existence, and the advancements of science haven't changed that for me and millions and millions of others.

[@gowdsake7103]

Really ? just what is your concept of " creation" I bet its wrong No 1 problem is IF creation is essential then what created god ! No 2 problem just why would a god create a universe No 3 problem did said god just magic everything like it was supposed to have done with humans ? No 4 problem if god created everything then what is said god doing now The list of problems for creation is huge almost as huge as the errors in the bible Quran and all other iron age books of myths

[@vr6428]

​@@gowdsake7103 why do jews have an overrepresentation of 30p% on the Media industry

[@zach3965]

That’s pathetic.

[@Pabliski577]

I think the Bible is a divine coating for events that technically happened.

[@andrewaldrich3602]

What a weird way to admit your blatant ignorance 😂😂😂

[@GRN2283]

In ancient times, everyone believed in a geocentric universe where "space" was a liquid in which all the stars resided. Nowadays it's called "sonoluminescence". They also believed in a hard barrier above us called the Firmament.

[@stickplayer2]

0:32 "we know about dark matter" - uh, no, we don't. We theorize it, and there are accepted, competing theories (MOND) that require no dark matter, and which model some phenomenon better that dark matter. Please be more careful not to miseducate - especially when you're off your topic and area of expertise, as in this case.

[@jamaljohnson1948]

Shut up

[@djhagrid300]

I think don't he meant it that way. It's just meant to contrast the stark differences in our understanding of how the universe might work and that of the medieval world. A concept of dark matter couldn't even occur to medieval people. I don't think presenting dark matter as an accepted theory in this particular case would do as much as to miseducate. If this were a video discussing fundamentals of space I'd be more inclined to agree

[@Limestone_Wolf]

Shut up nerd

[@rainrope5069]

Most MOND theories require a dark matter component still, and there is enough evidence for dark matter that it is essentially accepted that it must exist. Dark matter is an observation, dark matter theories are just propositions to explain them. Saying "we know about dark matter" isnt misleading at all, and even if it were, this comment is splitting hairs.

[@Jacob-Simonsen]

We know something is missing and call it dark matter. we could call it anything