MEE6 Thought I Wouldn’t Notice… (Discord didn't)

[@NoTextToSpeech]

top.gg isn’t the discord police. They don’t need to boot mee6 off the platform because that’s Discord’s job. Top.gg is just getting the bag and that’s pretty gamer. I just found Mee6’s ad spending interesting. And raised the point that it’s more likely that top.gg would not comment on Mee6’s actions to maintain that business relationship. Oh yeah I should make it clear. I don’t hate music bots. I just hate every other music bot being punished and Mee6 getting away with it. Moreover, music bots break KZbin's API TOS, not Discord's directly. If I recall correctly there is a term in Discord's Dev TOS that says you shouldn't be breaking the TOS of other platforms. From what I speculate, it seems like it's up to youtube to tell Discord that a bot is breaking the tos.

[@zcattop]

Alright.

[@Yvan713]

I approve it

[@exdeedeedee]

that makes sense tbh

[@inferno-419]

I still remember me and my friends giving our last goodbyes to groovy.

[@dipamd9352]

yep

[@atlashellwalker9769]

So let me get this straight, if rythm didn’t charge for premium features we would still have it and not have to use shiddy other bots.

[@YT7mc]

They would have no way of getting money then. It costs money to host a bot.

[@magorzatamaniak3454]

I think the bigger problem was youtube not receiving money from ads

[@arkahv]

@@YT7mc ....What? No. it doesn't. Well, the only thing you'd pay for to make a Discord bot is a server to keep the bot running 24/7, But other than that. hosting a bot isn't paid and a server for it is optional

[@fabiofanf3e813]

@@magorzatamaniak3454 brands when they can solve something withiut ruining it:

[@𠆢___𠆢]

@@arkahv I think they meant the website for the bot and other factors that they need funding for

[@pitust]

The thing is, until YT actually *sends* MEE6 a cease and descist, it's fine for them to do whatever the hell they want.

[@sippingthe]

@Acevant lol

[@nexinex6049]

wrong. Discord TOS requires bots to follow the TOS of other websites. Since mee6 is very much against the youtube TOS discord could (and should!) force them to remove it. Actually they should ban it already because of a large number of offenses but for this one forced removal is the ideal option.

[@Austinfdp]

@Acevant time to spam them about meee6 so we can get that cease and descist

[@Sexy_Stev]

not for all the other music bots though, they still get punished anyways

[@HappyVLR]

fr

[@dlubber7071]

mee6 totally ruined mr. meeseeks

[@David280GG]

Let's make you top comment B)

[@trisserwomenkisser]

Let's make you top comment B)

[@yabmoz]

Lets make you the top comment B)

[@Ishatmeself]

Let's make you top comment B) (wait already this is the top comment)

[@endergamer.mp4]

Let's make you top comment B)

[@ItzYouTube101]

Do not show this to MEE6 but... Fun fact: I enabled XP level roles on my server on MEE6's server BEFORE they made this service paid. And now since it's already enabled, It's kind of bugged. My server STILL has level roles TO THIS DAY without me paying a single dollar.

[@hi-kt3qr]

MEE6 purposely did that to keep their old customers at the time.

[@Lugtastic]

That's with any bot though, I had the free premium trial for 24 hours for ticket bot and still have all my custom forms up, only thing that doesn't work is the form that pops up with the button, it doesn't actually send the details anymore but it still pops up.

[@Axodus]

@@Lugtastic if the form doesn't work, isn't it pointless?

[@susancreature]

being an OG of mee6 removes the corruption. cool.

[@Yabitom]

Both KZbin and Adult swim should just sue Mee6 at this point

[@skidz-]

Can't sue a bot lmao

[@luvfiticousin]

@@skidz- yes you can the music bot was sued by KZbin

[@BlueStarBRS]

Its me66 not meeseeks so adult swim will nothing do

[@Yabitom]

@@BlueStarBRS obviously

[@rajatkamalchauhan1507]

Adult swim?

[@SoulStream717]

NTTS be like: You can run but you can't hide. lmao

[@androverse5786]

literally the philosophy of this vid 💀

[@Lilyyy_Har]

hi soul

[@Reverii]

Cant wait for you to cover the eventual mee6 shutdown aswell.

[@GurkenbauerTim]

As long as it is making them bills they‘ll be the favorite child. And if KZbin sends a cease and desist they‘ll just re-add the music feature in a month

[@notlNSIGHT]

@@GurkenbauerTim Which is why they need to sue MEE6 into OBLIVION. Sue the creators for everything they've got.

[@Timothy5769]

No text to speech? Nah, you're a discord news reporter to me. Am glad I found your channel when I did 💕

[@Yvan713]

I approve it

[@AspieGamer13]

I ditched MEE6 ages ago when I learned of their investment in NFTs Hearing this… no surprise… glad I dipped out

[@Theunicorn2012]

I ditched MEE6 ages ago when I learned of their investment in NFTs Hearing this... no surprise… glad I dipped out

[@feckoff2422]

@@Theunicorn2012gross, don’t copy and paste comments

[@vvv331]

I really won't be surprised if discord's favoritism to MEE6 will play it's role in the future, considering the shady actions MEE6 done.

[@vvv331]

@@niczvr Considering how most of the company works, they're VERY LIKELY to keep user asset that violates their own rules the company sets just because it makes a lot of money for them. If in Roblox, Pet Simulator X violated Roblox ToS about 4 times and yet no serious action was taken, just beacuse it makes a lot of money for Roblox, I can tell the same thing may happen to Discord except it's Mee6, because Mee6 might be making lots of money for Discord either.

[@creativechannelname3200]

toast

[@Hexixels]

You know it’s bad when a dev of ACG is commenting

[@pwrsocket]

@@Hexixels You know they are disgusting because they are a furry

[@elhsgiuloigtn]

@@creativechannelname3200 delete reply

[@beefox__]

I just want to drop my experience with mee6: i was a very early supporter, back when you did a single donation and got access to music and the "cool features," when they switched to a subscription model they claimed they would uphold their promise to original donators. for me at least? they have not. i tried for months, they refused to uphold it with so many different issues. I gave up and haven't used it for years now. but i thought it would be interesting to mention to folk

[@TAKV_gaming]

Being completely honest, I’d definitely not turn down $100k for advertisements from *one bot*

[@pustota7254]

Your comment got liked 69 times.

[@Theunicorn2012]

Being completely honest, I’d definitely not turn down $100k for advertisements from one bot

[@pustota7254]

@@Theunicorn2012 why are you copying comment and replying to that same comment

[@justarandompersoniguess]

Every time you think mee6 has hit rock bottom…. They manage to find a drill to keep going deeper

[@z_jumper7937]

Thanks for your video, especially for the last part. People needs to know what happened to the previous volunteers team and how that thing was handled

[@rightarrowkey]

The fact that this MEE6 series is becoming a saga shows much much MEE6 sucks lol

[@FaultyMuse]

Calling out discord for not banning MEE6 for having a music bot makes ZERO sense since Discord was always on the side of the music bots, but it was KZbin that took legal action to force the popular music bots to shutdown. Do I think it's fair that MEE6 can get away with it when others haven't? No of course not. But don't blame Discord when it's not their fault.

[@hi-kt3qr]

It’s because MEE6 uses lavaplayer which doesn’t require API keys. All the other bots you mentioned used API keys. You might be wondering why they didn’t just switch? It’s because they needed to use many proxies or else it they would get rate limited considering the amount of users.

[@romangiertych5198]

@@hi-kt3qr lavaplayer is just a library handling decoding/encoding process. You still need to fetch the actual content from youtube to pass it to it, so you can still get rate limited

[@Nixahma]

Cool, it wasn't their fault one out of fifty times, they're still biased as fuck

[@gammaf1365]

@@Nixahma yeh, but not this time

[@FaultyMuse]

@@Nixahma I'm confused what you're talking about. Discord has basically never banned any bots other than blatant abuse/TOS violations or when they were forced to through legal action (like these music bots, most of which *still* exist btw)

[@Biactyk]

Thanks to your videos I've removed Mee6 from my personal and community discord servers! Keep spreading good information :)

[@samkoetsier5297]

Keep doing what you do it's amazing

[@gooberius]

uhhhh the uhhhhhh uhhh uhhhhh whar uhhhh NO.

[@VoidfluxOrb]

Let's make you top comment B)

[@K9arcade]

Fredboat is the first bot I ever learnt to use and as such has been the bot I'd use for when I'm in vc with people and wanna listen to music. I noticed they too can no longer run youtube videos due to conflicts so i decided to make some backup playlists on Soundcloud for my regulars. I tend to listen to my music offline since I actually buy it but it felt odd to lose a big chunk of what my tiny server liked to do together. That said I am now getting the hang of that youtube watch party feature in servers now.

[@PanDiaxik]

Yeah, the YT watch party is pretty cool, but it's pretty limited, some videos can't be played, if you paste a link to a playlist it just lists all the songs and you have to add them one by one. It also has ads that work in a kinda weird way, everyone gets i different ad and has to click skip ad separately, and the video doesn't pase while ads are played, so you miss a bit of it

[@syvvieon]

i just use vexera

[@hundielias]

NTTS complaining about MEE6 never gets old. ❤️

[@xynoxsen7413]

bro ain't letting mee6 slide

[@Arylist]

"If you bought a lifetime subscription, use every feature in the bot" same way of saying, if you bought a 100 bullets to kill 1 person, use every single other to kill more

[@xavier6130]

Waste not, want not. Smegma male grindset 101, man.

Another episode of NTTS roasting MEE6

[@RGC_animation]

Well if Discord isn't gonna do anything about it, KZbin certainly will, KZbin LOVES to shut down things!

[@Autokendo17]

They'll just readd the music feature in a month anyway.

[@notlNSIGHT]

@@Autokendo17 so sue the bot into oblivion

[@Sopitive]

It would have been so much easier for you to use the Discord API to return all the messages from a specific channel and use that information to create a spreadsheet.

[@Axodus]

Account botting is against the rules?

[@Sopitive]

@@Axodus This has literally nothing to do with automating your account. Find the rule that says you can't use the Discord API to get messages from a channel. If Discord took the time to literally document how to do exactly what I was suggesting, it isn't against the rules.

[@Axodus]

@Sopitive pretty sure you're required to use a bot account when using the api, I could be wrong, if I am, great.

[@projectzero2462]

Bro this guy need to get hired and got raised already.

[@marcelacoplao]

Back when I entered discord, MEE6 already felt annoying so I blocked him. To be honest there should be justice for all bots

[@callmenose]

what's funny about mee6 allowing links is that the two bots i use for music dont like to take links, they require putting the yt title in, so something tells me mee6 is breaking rules more than normal.

[@wolfhaize]

Love the dedication Hope you get to a mil followers next year!

[@atrane365]

My group always used rhythm to play meme audio relevant to whatever we were doing. Sometimes it was music, a la Sea of Thieves and PotC music, but mostly it was meme audio. I really wish there was even a half-decent alternative

[@Kevs_BS]

Slowly NTTS is becomeing a true discord mod

[@Voltana]

this series is amazing ngl

[@EpicLPer]

Hosting my own Red Bot for multiple servers and still love it, despite it being a bit complicated at times. Haven't found a proper replacement for it.

[@russianyoutube]

I'm writing my own bots on nodejs, efficient, fast and easy.

[@cakeclicker1859]

This guy has so much hatred against MEE6. keep it up! love!

[@T1MAGEDDON]

I feel the issue is that it's just too late to kick it off the platform, they're in way too many servers and afaik there's no easy way to transfer the settings to other servers, so if you kick them off the platform it essentially breaks a large volume of servers (specially ones that rely on level roles for channels) and leaves them without the automod it has. Unless discord somehow finds a way to transfer mee6's settings somewhere else, it'll probably stay as much as it really shouldn't have

[@Glitter_H_Hoof]

discord is already slowly implementing equivalent features at a snail's pace

[@Skyymon]

youtube will eventually do smt about mee6, so mee6 will, at the very least, lose some of its functionality, altho i could see mee6 never being banned, despite their fishy practices, not because it will harm a lot of servers (u could spend a single day setting up new bots, albeit putting in a bunch of effort and maybe a bit of teamwork), but rather cuz discord doesnt give a crap

[@galacticalove]

That's sounds like those servers' issue, Better learn to familiarize themselves with other (better) bots in the off chance

[@LanaJuno]

Dude. You're CRAZY.... i LOVED your content. Subscribed! Keep it up!

[@cupofdirtfordinner]

nadeko is my favorite alternative, and has my favorite economy out of any bot i've ever used - just putting it out there

[@martweez4843]

I've got a question that has practically nothing to do with Mee6: As I was watching this video, I was wondering how Soda Bot was doing ? This alternative to Mee6 should be great, but when I checked their site, it was down (is still is as I'm writing this)

[@exoticlol]

I knew that this was coming, in fact, I made your brain cells work.

[@aurwie]

Dang discord really should hire you You could save discord

[@Liggliluff]

(7:00) If they didn't win a bid and didn't pay, they still have the money saved to bid again, and should therefore not count. So if they did win every time, they wouldn't have bit this much, because it wouldn't work for their budget.

[@AbsolutelyAri1]

I can't really get mad at top gg, if I was in their shoes I would never deny the 100k

[@wheresfizzy]

this guy needs to become discord mod.

[@keksdev]

We should stop using MEE6 and replace it with a better, free bot

[@UnspokenChicxulub]

Who else kisses their phone screen back every time he kisses goodbye at the end of the video?

[@foreverfound820]

I think it's only you 😐

[@nic_e3234]

Only you bro

[@luminiou8039]

Its funny how these people commented about the quality of this video directly when it came out, seems to ruin the reason to comment if you originally just want attention and not want to discuss the topics of the video

[@Sinister_Salamander]

Hydra still works as a music bot, it uses Spotify links which is cool

[@unpr0p]

LOL THE HIGH PITCH VOICE AT THE END

[@0Bennyman]

You can't blame Discord for KZbin only not allowing Rythm to do it, that's like being mad that you had a DMCA for music but someone else didn't and blaming KZbin for not doing it themselves.

[@PhoenixDuhh]

The rivalry against MEE6 is insane and funny

[@crugg]

I am 99% sure that Mee6 agreed to use Discord's integrated subscription feature once it comes out.

[@Danklord77]

Looks Like Mee6 and Discord Are Best Friends. How Cute 😳

[@evilhacker601]

femaie genitals

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

Ayo A Fellow Phone Contact Typer! C'mon Bro We Gotta Play Minecraft Ripoff Together

[@TheGulfryd]

youtube title speakers be like

[@PrometheusTroy]

the mee6 larping is ETERNAL

[@simplifiedphoenix4508]

MEE6 do be scamming teenagers into buying $80 worth of money. You might as well spend it on 3 other better bots. Or buy 5 pizzas. Never buy premium for MEE6.

[@hellbringerz1560]

As someone who had to deal with mee6 all the time I hate that bot with a passion I'd rather burn in hell than use that bot ever again

[@FolTakX]

Ok Commander, I will still use Mee6.

[@wolfsyncc]

i was having a bad day and that mwa at the end somehow cheered me up thank you, ntts

[@2moist2meaty]

Not trying to be mean but lord it sounds like you don’t have many folk close to you

[@wolfsyncc]

correct fart gaming 3959 @@2moist2meaty

[@jjam1025]

My grandma thanks you for zooming in!!!

[@bluet7544]

This bot is breaking TOS of discord, KZbin and probably 10s of other platforms and corrupt this has to get illegal at some point

[@SORC_ONE]

1:19 a man of culture

[@eeeeee9973]

3:17 woah jimmy neutron? Do you remove you make myself sad

[@RNGzus]

and to think i bought a lifetime pass YEARS ago *turns on all the settings and informs community members to have their way*

[@ryanmoore3067]

Oh dang, when I saw the thumbnail I thought this was a playlist 😂😅

[@link_team3855]

as a person, yes i would. as a company, no, we need the fat stacks.

[@theexplodedguys264]

Ngl the music bots just needs to be back and like fr

[@juliancalero8012]

When you have a lifetime supply of stale bread, make french toast and meatballs

[@CyberQuickYT]

To be fair, it doesn't necesarily mean that they play youtube videos if they support youtube links and so on. Of course, here it does as that video is only on youtube, but anyway: I had a bot that supported spotify links, but played it from youtube instead. It still did show spotify metadata and if you clicked on it, spotify would open, but it didn't use spotify in a way that breaks spotify's TOS. Yet the bot got banned by discord for breaking TOS of their partners (hit 1.2k servers, way less than other music bots that are fine and thriving ...), and discord refuses to communicate exact reason or reverse the ban. The bot did nothing else that could be breaking TOS of any of their partners.

[@DudeSoWin]

So KZbin stepped in to crush competition against Discords proprietary bot software of choice.

[@epicstar86]

nice to see that this video exists

[@toslaw9615]

If I owned Discord I'd actually change the TOS so if the bots make money on premium memberships then the money has to get through Discord. I'd also reserve the right to take the money stored temporarily (withdraws would be monthly let's say) when banning a bot, and then just before withdrawal ban the bots that break TOS. Though from an ordinary user's perspective, if Discord implemented this, it would kinda suck, too...

[@unauthorized_paradox]

some time ago I reported mee6 in app directory for that gambling feature since it’s against the tos two days later discord sent an email that they didn’t break the tos 💀💀💀💀

[@CCShakeCat]

Glad I use Carl for moderation and Arcane for leveling up

[@neverid02]

It’s always money, of course. WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT

[@bonkand]

That's why we always see the same bots in sponsored, because their bets are bigger than other ones and always appear. Poor small bots that can't bet a lot

[@sculkified]

5:02 "and i have a severe amount of brain damage"

[@itsklos]

Ditched Mee6 premium today for Dyno, Pepe Manager and Streamcord

[@tr1ppinghazard]

6:15 love the name of the google sheet

[@raspboo]

Arcane is a great alternative to MEE6

[@MagicNub]

It feels illegal to be this early 😂 , Btw Nice Vid!

[@Ishatmeself]

Ok

[@Bray_donn]

Ok

[@ItzStardustYT]

Ok

[@Gaminguide1000]

Ok

[@David280GG]

Ok

[@Charcoal190]

Wait, so is there nothing KZbin can do about this? Couldn't they just sue Mee6?

Well but that's their problem, if they're gonna end up getting sued by KZbin. Otherwise, whatever, it's a good feature

[@oashky]

i haven’t slept in 15 hours

[@scuripsp]

3:29 I am a proud supporter of anime bot "Mundae".

[@pwall]

My integrity > 100000 My integrity < World Peace

[@Helix..]

I also have seen and heard people getting different types of ads from bots like mee6 or mee6 itself

[@Helix..]

like completely different servers

[@Lu13s]

I got that dm after I watch the video. It took awhile but I got it. I wasn't surprised at all.

[@dead0blivion]

use to use mee6 then learned of some shady stuff and their support of NFTs... booted them out of my discord and switched to a smaller bot, Kashima, and never looked back

[@TreeBranchStudios]

There really should be a music bot that can use KZbin and doesn’t have premium junk, may not work well but at least it would be something

[@kastifur]

Baffled that nobody has gone full OSS for bots. Time to get started I suppose.

[@blackironseamus]

And then discord has the balls to pause my Spotify if my mic activity is on for 30 seconds

[@yatsukiko]

back when mee6 was a new thing, esp level system (before tatsumaki) it was very cool and very nice, but then, somehow, over night they lost their whole db of users and NEVER made a backup of it, i think a year of leveling just vanishes, i hated it with passion even since, tatsumarki best waifu anyway

[@realkofiki]

the only bot i’ve ever truly loved was Vexera

[@justachillingcat]

Only people with notifications know he changed the thumbnail

[@nanopi]

The monthly votes in the top left of that website did a tangent and wrapped around infinity to 0

[@ginqus]

My man has 27 TB folder filled with stock videos

[@JaMaMaa1]

mee6 gonna be able to buy half of their groceries with all that topgg money

[@iSamYTBackup]

wait for google to get onto this and to send a cease and desist

[@snowangelss]

new thumbnail dropped

[@itranscendencei7964]

Mee6 always annoyed the shit out of me as a server owner. Carl bot was chill though.

[@romanempirelolfn]

"Im a timer!" NO YOUR NOT, I like the carl bot.