Meet the Future of European Rail: Germany's ICE 5 and France's TGV M

[@Lukas-eh3dd]

GUYS IT'S NOT AN AI, the other narrator is in maternity leave, and they had to hire this one

[@krazYFaic]

He said they hired a guy on Fiverr to narrate and hopes he isn't using AI. Kinda looks like he is.

[@Lukas-eh3dd]

@@krazYFaic well, idk that, I just said what I saw the channel commenting in the last video

[@matsv201]

@@krazYFaic Sounds like someone got scamed

[@Eurobazz]

It's paternity leave for a man. In any event get him back asap.

[@ElrosTar-Minyatur]

It really sounds off. Not human like.

[@u1zha]

That TGV looks poised for a successful career with these optimizations. Want to see it on Rail Baltica when it opens!

[@zbyszekzbigniew9744]

Witam. Mam pytanie czy w ogóle jechano testowo TGV M 350 km/h?

[@Tortuex_]

you missed the most important thing about the TGV-M : it's battery that allows it to continue at normal speed even if there is no more electricity on the lines - a world's first

[@olivieronrails]

Not a world's first though, that tech is available on Shinkansen N700S series currently in operation (in case of an earthquake/loss of overhead line power)

[@matsv201]

8:42 This is inaccurate. The TGV passanger cars are not 19.49 meter long. That is the avrage length. Of the 8 wagons. two wagons are about 21 meters long and the other are just shy of 19 meters long. 19.49 meter is the average length of the 8 wagons. This matters because other vice the math don´t fall out correctly. Of all wagons was 19.49 meter long and shorted to 18.49 meter, the train would be 203 meter long in total. But the additional one wagon is not 18.49 meter long, but rather just shy of 18 meter long, There is basically where the extra meters comes from

[@sdtpilote]

9*18.49 = 166.41 2*20+7*18=166 The diff seems to be only half a metre, what am I missing ?

[@justrelaxmore]

it seems that your information are outdated - around two months ago I was on board of an ICE 3 NEO from Frankfurt Airport to Aachen, the final destination of the train was Brussels

[@Tiniuvielle]

I was going to say the same thing, ICE 3 Neos were used at least during the football euro between Belgium and Frankfurt, I was on one of them on my inboud trip

[@antaryjczyk]

Maintain punctuality? Trains in Cologne are so delayed that the train schedule is just a suggestion at this point. Utter joke....

[@GustavSvard]

But how much of that is due to the trains as they were built? i.e. not lack of maintenance of trains or tracks?

[@the_retag]

​@@GustavSvardvery little. Its almost all upkeep and organisation/overusage

[@scanningallvidzs]

None of those are because of the trains themselves, they're all the result of years of underfunding in maintenance of the tracks

[@etbadaboum]

@@scanningallvidzs How much of Deutschlandtakt's investment plan will remedy that?

[@stickynorth]

I wish we had this in Canada... Considering 51% of the 40 million of us live in 6 big cities in 2-3 general areas shows the need for well-connected regional HSR... Edmonton-Calgary... Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal and of course Vancouver-Seattle-Portland... Heck in the longer-term even a Regina-Saskatoon express train makes sense as does some sort of Maritime HSR network connecting Halifax, Moncton, St John and Fredericton since they are really close together and contain 1.7 million between the two provinces...Which are tiny in comparison to the rest of Canada..

[@michaeloreilly657]

2nd hand ICE trains should be available at a good price shortly. Pity your lines are not electrified.

[@Eurobazz]

@@stickynorth Just like your southern neighbour, you've left it too late Canada. You'll never catch up with Europe, China and Japan. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

[@daanwolters3751]

i mean, nowadays both sides of politics are in favour of transit in canada, with most cities having a transit megaproject. I'd say the time is about right to start building such hsr connections. Remember the spanish are currently the world champion in building good hsr lines for cheap. And even so, the paris-lyon line made back its construction costs in 11 years...

[@Eurobazz]

@@daanwolters3751 Spain doesn't do it for cheap. That's a total affront to the professionalism of ADIF and RENFE.

[@qjtvaddict]

Maglev would be better for those corridors. Electric regionals can work well for Saskatchewan and Winnipeg and maybe short turn services in northern Ontario

[@THingOLooooooo]

05:43 The introduction of the Deutschlandtakt is no longer 2030, it has been postponed to 2070 (!!!). No joke.

[@Tortuex_]

so if I understand correctly, the new ICE is coming out in 2030 and doesn't seem to have anything groundbreaking compared to the changes in the TGV-M (that is already existing and tested)?

[@jasperjenkin6645]

Please go back to having you guys narrate it it was so much more engaging and personalised, the audio volume also fluctuates a ton in this video and the last.

[@User58747]

Don't you just hate AI!!!!

[@merzto]

It's not AI

[@paulproux7276]

I love you videos. Please get your narrator with the nice slavic accent back, because the currant one sounds a bit AI like. Thx and keep up the great work 👍

[@dylanst3802]

ICE 5 will be used in Los Angeles - Las Vegas although it will be called American pioneer 220 but it’s a ICE 5

[@tilmanarchivar8945]

Not 100% correct - If Germany also choose Siemens (i hope) the ICE 5 and AP220 are buildt on the same Plattform "Velaro Novo". But can still differ in a lot of things (length, speed, exact design etc).

[@benk.8498]

"Deutschlandtakt" is postponed to 2070 which was announced quite recently. Delays as usual by DB^^

[@jakob7116]

Well a take timetable is being implemented by 2030 right? All infrastructure projects might not be done with the current funding but that can change

[@tomodomo1000]

@@jakob7116 I should have been done in the last 30 years, so it is no surprise DE is so behind in transport.

[@Guy-Zero]

Okay but that wasnt decided by DB though? And its not even their fault? The original date was just way to unrealistic

[@vollelektrolysierer5773]

Deutschlandtakt is not one single thing, it is a gradual development. So it is not "prostponed to2070" but rather "it will take until 2070 until *everything* is operational".

[@AidenForien]

Ja, When I'm 66 years old

[@RailwayNetworks]

Great video. Thank you 😉

[@lordrindfleisch1584]

Very interesting that the TGV M har 2 power cars. I was under the impression that all modern high speed trains were EMUs

[@PtrkHrnk]

There's nowhere to put the power equipment into double-decker with this loading gauge.

[@p4olo537]

SNCF prefers power cars, it's more easy for them to replace for maintenance or in case of breakdown.

[@Kollum]

@@PtrkHrnk And the SNCF, the customer that makes the TGV overall design, have strict requirements regarding maximum trains length so that they fit the quays of some old, not up-gradable but very important stations. In order to match the passenger capacity needed with such a short train, there is no choice but to go double Decker.

[@joriss5]

@@Kollum Almost all high-speed trains in Europe are buitl around the standard lengths of 200 and 400m. Talgo's HSTs also use separate power cars.

[@ilannghost6306]

also, the ICE 3 neo already drives on the brussels to frankfurt route

[@hananas2]

I've taken ICE 3 neo a few times from Brussels, they're nice and punctuality is much much bettter than it used to be

[@SergioVieroSavio]

¡Gracias!

[@RailwaysExplained]

Thank you for your support.

[@jermainetrainallen6416]

Thanks for the vid👍

[@SeanSoraghan]

Dont like AI voice

[@Lukas-eh3dd]

is a real guy, the other one just had a baby (if I'm not mistaken)

[@NaenaeGaming]

Not an AI voice, they mentioned in a reply to a similar comment on their previous video that they’ve hired a new narrator.

[@NickIggler1969]

@@NaenaeGamingwrong

[@blackmercury956]

The OG voice has a baby and will take care full time untill further notice. He isn't gone forever but won't see him anytime soon.

[@-Osiris-]

It doesn't even sound like AI lol

[@Sanginius23]

why the AI narrator ?

[@Lukas-eh3dd]

is a real guy, the other one just had a baby (if I'm not mistaken)

[@NaenaeGaming]

They hired a new narrator.

[@srikanthshastry4546]

I waited for this video for a long time, and I am let down

[@srikanthshastry4546]

Missing the original guy behind the scene

[@fb55255]

How do these compare with the already existing AGV or the ETR1000? It looked to me like most of the new features are already implemented in the above mentioned trainsets.

[@Eurobazz]

I guess nappy duty is still in operation. When will he return?

[@ezkymos]

Deutsche Bahn should rather invest into maintenance of their infrastructures to fix their 40% of long distance train being delayed or cancelled, rather than new trains that will be stuck on the tracks

[@theunchosenone4610]

Germany trying to catch up and finally reach Industry Standard and France is actually looking to innovate

[@evo3s75]

The ICE3 NEO is already since July or August driving to the Netherlands. I mean, at 5:08 you even show it driving in the Netherlands

[@rbtjan]

This voice is a little bit better than the last one

[@Dalex1910]

If the 400m long ice 3 has space for less than 500 passengers, how will the ice 5 (Also 400m) have space for 940 ?

[@LoisoPondohva]

Piles 🗿

[@volrathsstronghold]

the normal ICE3 is 200m long and has about 440 seats. The 400m long version is a coupled set of two trains.

[@AG7-MTM]

I see absolutely no reason that a replacement of the ICE3 is necessary - they still work just fine and still seem in perfect condition

[@animalpals8706]

Where do you get your info some of it is like 5 months old.

[@UncleGamer077]

Menwhile in Britain we have the mighty Sprinters which comes with either 1, 2 or 3 car sets, has a mighty diesel engine, allowing it to travel pretty much anywhere in the UK with a impresive top speed of 75mph!, That will give the TGV/ICE a run for its money!

[@IndroneelMukerji]

Why can’t we have the description - narrative in English, rather than in ‘American’?

[@martialg9425]

hye , nice video , you just strangely forget the more important inovation of the TGV M but you Use a visual witch illustre it . the autonomious batery in case of an electrical substation out of power . Else thanks for the video .

[@embreis2257]

4:18 wait, the ICE3neo is 400m long but can only carry 439 passengers? earlier in the clip at 2:43 the future ICE5 allegedly is going to accommodate 940 passengers while also being 400m long. how is that possible?

[@ciso]

They said 400 m when in double traction.

[@tomarmstrong1281]

And where is the UK in all of this? The country that brought rail travel to the world.

[@5mnz7fg]

AFAIK the _Deutschlandtakt_ is scheduled for 2070! And even if new trains are designed for hypersonic speed there are still the old, insuffient tracks and signaling technology...

[@Raptile07]

According to Siemens, the ICE 5 should be able to reach a top speed of 360 km/h. Unfortunately, our infrastructure is not yet designed for this. I hope that the new routes will be designed for speeds of up to 400 km/h.

[@olivieronrails]

no benefit of running more than the current vmax. energy consumption would go through the roof, as would the maintenance costs, for little time gain.

[@Raptile07]

@@olivieronrails I have a DB employee in the family and he said exactly the same thing. Above all, we have too many stops in Germany for a time saving by driving fast, he said.

[@Desi365]

When will ICE5 be unveiled ??

[@Eurobazz]

This has to be AI. No human would say "bojies" (sic) for "bogies".

[@merzto]

It's not. AI sounds different

[@Tryphon-mb5jc]

it's pronounced bojie in French

[@Eurobazz]

​@@Tryphon-mb5jc The commentary is in English so what does the French pronunciation have to do with it?

[@hartstukken]

get rid of the AI please i beg you

[@Lukas-eh3dd]

is a real guy, the other one just had a baby (if I'm not mistaken)

[@NaenaeGaming]

This is a real person they’ve hired to do the voiceover.

[@elemental-server]

There is literally no AI in this video. Can you please elaborate what you mean?

[@DanielMoustache95]

What is the need for Highspeed trains, if the infrastructure is way behind and there is not enogh personal, bc the state isn’t investing enough

[@claudedarmstadter7774]

Erreur : à 7'53-54" c'est la ligne classique Paris-Dijon-Lyon-Marseille qu'on nous montre. At 7:53-54, it is the old line Paris-Dijon-Lyon-Marseille.

[@AkashGupta-pc2cb]

TGV has operational speed of 320 with two power cars and there is the Japanese shinkansen with the same speed but multiple power undercarriage power units. 😂 Seems two engines at each end work just fine.

[@michaeljohndennis2231]

It’s high time now that the high-speed rail line between Holyhead and Dublin was built as quickly as possible - those in power need to stop messing about and stop making excuses and just get it done

[@jgcondron]

Not going to happen.

[@edueduluna]

"(DB is upgrading to ICE3) to maintain punctually..." I hope not!!

[@yves2932]

ICE3Neo is supposed to be the result of lessons learned from ICE3. So it should produce less issues that introduce delays.

[@jaydenhale-oq4ho]

Samanta Alley

[@fischflossn]

Harding?

[@mrxman581]

Very interesting information and exciting. However, it seems that the first 272 km of the first operational segment of the California High-Speed Rail will use trains that will run at higher speeds than either of these projects. The California trains will run at 350 km per hour. More than likely, they will be made by Siemens, too.

[@etbadaboum]

Let's see first when the phase one will open shall we...

[@cdrw92]

The tgv can also run at these speeds, but it's useless. The travel time gained is minimal and the infrastructure costs (maintenance) increase by a lot by going from 320 km/h to more than 350. So they just keep it at 320. Also the traffic on some high speed lines is probably already on the brink of complete saturation (with only the TGV traffic, that doesn't even count international competitors like TrainItalia, or AVE that will enter the market soon). That's why they add bigger and better designed (more space efficient) trains instead of just adding more more trains

[@etbadaboum]

@@cdrw92 But China goes at 350 and soon at 400

[@cdrw92]

@@etbadaboum China is way bigger than France , so time gained can be more significant with higher speeds. And also China is still in its high speed lines building frenzy regardelss of cost and real profitability but I can guarantee that many of these line will cease to exists in the future. In 2022 out of the 18 main lines only 6 were profitable. and the entire system lost 15 billions. which is okay but it just mean they can affortd things other can't . until they won't be able anymore France is aiming at stability

[@domipa3972]

@@etbadaboum Mais la Chine et ses grandes distances n'est pas l'Europe dont le terrain est beaucoup plus compartimenté et exigerait des frais pharamineux pour une nouvelle infrastructure .

[@Kuatier]

Guys, where is quality control? You say ICE 3 neo but show a lot of Velaro D (ICE 3 "Classic" Family) fototage. I do not belive DB will be able to buy the ICE 5 they envision tbh. They have to reduce spending like crazy

[@robertmaxa6631]

The seats in the new ICE3 German train, don't look very comfortable.

[@jamesau4296]

Meanwhile for Bombardier Zefiro....

[@Victor-m0]

Meanwhile in the UK with the HS2... *sign*

[@ChurchillGustave]

2110 Ludie Greens

[@bestimmtkeinbot9793]

Nothing new here. The information given is sometimes already outdated.

[@carlsmith5545]

This is something the mighty United States of America should of had decades ago. The nation that put a man on the moon and yet can't achieve highspeed bullet train technology which is also fully electric. Highspeed bullet trains and maglev super train technology, the new american dream...

[@etbadaboum]

0.1% of your railway lines are electrified. India just converted its whole network to electricity. Start from here.

[@Filip586_SK]

Please return the old narrator, this is pretty bad.

[@ricktrickshots2642]

I really liked watching the video as a french user myself, I think we're far ahead of germany

[@ffmag9501]

Far ahead in which sense? Additionally I would suggest to see trains (and all other European projects) as such and don’t see one country “ahead”. In the train world all EU countries have the same problems which is getting more trains over the borders.

[@etbadaboum]

No need to boast about it. Siemens high-speed trains are on par basically. But the TGV M gets a head up.

[@jgcondron]

SNCF is a joke. French services are appalling in terms of frequency and compulsory reservations. As bad as rail infrastructure is in Germany (and it has been allowed to become terrible in places by consecutive German governments), it's still an order of magnitude better than France. France has by far the worst InterCity rail services of all the large Western EU countries with populations over 60m. Simply appalling.

[@jizzlecizzle1388]

The voice over actor was good, made the video easy to follow and enjoyable.

[@wyqtor]

Yeah, but the thick Serbian accent was part of the charm of Railways Explained.

[@OscarHFajardo]

😮

[@BT_watch87]

Nooo not again....

[@shefflontidwell8216]

And US still won’t have this type of high speed trains by 2035! Lol

[@EmmaTiffany-u5i]

McLaughlin Fall

[@Drakelaagan]

What is the train of the future for you guys?

[@peterdavidson3268]

I am left wondering why this spirit of technological advancement can't be replicated in the field of rail infrastructure development? There's not much point in having more efficient rolling stock if the lines they actually run on are not improved incrementally in tandem? A real world example - why is it taking so damn long to construct vital links between existing national High Speed Networks - the missing bit of High Speed line between Figueres (in Spain) and Montpellier (France) is currently planned for completion in 2040 - if European political leaders were really committed to advancing the growth of sustainable modal shift (from short haul air to high speed rail) that piece of line should have up and running twenty years ago, ie. 2004- so it more than 30 years overdue! Unless and until high speed trains have real high speed track to operate on the prospect of significant modal shift will remain out of reach?

[@domipa3972]

Avez-vous déjà entendu parler de la rentabilité indispensable d'un investissement ?

[@peterdavidson3268]

@@domipa3972 Je n'ai jamais entendu parler de cette mesure financière particulière et je ne suis pas sûr du rôle qu'elle joue ici.

[@Sayitlikitiz101]

New narrator or AI narrator: I don't care! The point is that the voice gave me the strongest uncanny valley feeling, This was beyooonnddddd creepy. WTH!!!!

[@PerkinEdison-b3j]

McClure Walk

[@SawyerHayden-p6v]

Christop Ridge

[@JulieMaley-x6h]

O'Hara Isle

[@xouxoful]

2,7 bln = 100 trains 800 mln = 15 trains 😮why are these one much more expensive ?

[@oadka]

I have a feeling that the company forced such a deal to counter the crazy increase in every raw material, energy and labour cost.

[@cdrw92]

these are quadcurrent trains that allow the trains to run in France and other countries (Switzerland, Germany, Belgium , Netherland , Italy...) they are probably way more complex in the engine and power department but the price is wrong. fron other sources I see that the contract is for 590 millions

[@EllenNoel-r4i]

Hermiston Loaf

[@AdamBudge-c1y]

Wisoky Passage

[@colin.stephan]

Deutschland Takt is delayed to 2070

[@MarioSpector-x4x]

Imani Run

[@SharpWolf-l1q]

Bayer Village

[@sfdfdf-d4e]

Willow Passage

[@EtrkHgtt-i3o]

Stoltenberg Neck

[@Irsu85]

That ICE5 and TGV M thing sounds to me like mostly marketing bs, but also just a nice and big capacity train Also, DB? Punctial? What?

[@NicolJosephine-w4d]

Ocie Pass

[@DonnaRobinson-u1w]

McClure Way

[@WilliamEastland-g4r]

Wehner Station

[@PrittJulie-i6f]

VonRueden Pine

[@TracyHarris-h9d]

Hermiston Path

[@user-sp1mi6dt7i]

Murl Pines

[@hitachihanzo8074]

alstom wooow

[@RhondaDavis-p5d]

Tremayne Roads

[@CollinsMandel-d6q]

Sandrine Stravenue

[@JeffersonAvery-b4k]

Ward Heights

[@JuniorMartin-b3u]

Christiansen Centers

[@RaquelHailstock-c1c]

Dare Highway

[@WalshDeirdre-k7s]

Will Locks

[@angier023]

Appearance-wise they don't look as good as the older series.

[@dreimalnein22]

great that the AI voice does not make any grammar mistakes that the serbian producers and speakers were not aware of, but everything else, all the cheaper looking graphics and more stock photos are making it worst. Can't you stay like before, only with LESS GRAMMAR mess-ups?

[@kevink7529]

Grammar mess ups are fine I come here for information on rail not grammar lessons. Language learning is organic and the more they speak the more they'll learn and the fewer mistakes happen. I preferred it that a human with an accent was speaking I don't want the entire web to be American accented.

[@Lukas-eh3dd]

is a real guy, the other one just had a baby (if I'm not mistaken)

[@dreimalnein22]

@@kevink7529 you at least have to be gifted and live in a country with the foreign language you're learning surrounded by native speakers and only speaking and at one point dreaming in it. I guarantee you, languages with different grammar logics are hard to set aside.

[@dreimalnein22]

@@Lukas-eh3dd really real? Puh, sounds not like I hoped. Great they have babies and stuff changes. But here also the graphics didn't change for the better in my opinion.

[@Lukas-eh3dd]

@@dreimalnein22 I saw the guys saying he was in the "diaper duty" in the last video

[@MelissaWhite-m3p]

Jordy Mews

[@DierserErica-o9z]

Damian Shores

[@CurmeErnest-e2d]

Rowe Island

[@MaartenOtto]

Sorry, will no longer be looking at your content for the use of AI voice. I don’t like it.

[@RailwaysExplained]

We totally understand you. This was a way to try to change things but we were deceived. The next video will be and hopefully every next one will be done by our "incumbent" narrator 😃

[@ElizabethSharp-v4h]

Kellen Spring

[@PtrkHrnk]

I for one actually welcome the new voice.

[@Ishaanbiniwale]

Yeah the old voice sounded rubbish this one even though its ai it sounds bette

[@matsv201]

@@Ishaanbiniwale I rather have a bad real narator, then a mid AI one. The problem with AI narators is that they are often used in conten mill Ai generated videos that only push out huge amount of click bate videos with none sens script. of cause, in this case it looks like the script is actually made by a human that kind of know what they are doing,. but if i didn´t know about this channel before, i would just click away instantly

[@jgcondron]

It's very unlikely to be AI - the script is just very poorly written with needless repetition every few words and the guy reading just doesn't seem that familiar with railways. He has the RTE Joe Stack voice of tending to give everything the strong form pronunciation (though not as bad as Stack - who is awful).