Meeting the Real jREG- Greg Guevara #26

I talk to the famous Jreg, former anti-centrist, and now the currently normal person you've ever met in your life.
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Chapters:
00:00:00 Who am I interviewing?
00:00:12 Disassociate and the gap with the audience
00:03:30 Parasociality Stuff
00:08:00 Audience projections
00:12:25 Mental Illness
00:17:50 What on earth is Ego??
00:26:17 Political orientation from the audience
00:28:27 Dr. Jordan Peterson
00:30:20 Transmaxing
00:34:00 Why do people want to destroy society?
00:36:15 Extremists all around
00:42:10 Is the world going to get better?
00:43:42 AI
00:50:00 Vril
00:56:48 Religion
01:04:48 Fans, KZbin and Self Steem
01:09:23 A little bit more about Religion
01:12:41 Mental Illnesses pt two
01:19:14 Bipolar Geronimo Stilt Skin
01:33:25 Kids and Dating
01:38:28 Jreg’s impression of a Happy Clam
Happy Clam
01:43:10 A piece of advice
01:48:24 Anti-Natalism and Happiness

[@aa01blue38]

His jawline is definitely inversely proportional to his sanity

[@n9879]

it’s all connected

[@OriPeel]

lmaooo

[@superidot1]

Thanks to jreg I've begun my trans maxing journey from male to MALE I am now 7 foot tall and am 250 pounds of muscle. People are terrified of me, which is good because that's how I feel on the inside about myself, so it's very validating for me

[@serenedesiree]

So brave! I have become WOMAN and have given birth to 26 babies so far. It's... been a challenge.

[@user-xx3wh9dd2l]

Karl Malone is that you?

[@anahodkinson]

and i've started mine from male to mail, i now fit in post boxes :D

[@superidot1]

@@anahodkinson I support you ❤️ , but I don't wanna know how this ties into your sexuality

[@FireKeep]

It's so nice of Serene to give this Completely Normal Neurotypical Normie Centrist Cisgendered Heterosexual Pro-Status Quo Man a platform to speak about these important topics! I look forward to seeing more 😃

[@serenedesiree]

We at the Serene Desiree Podcast advocate only for the most middle of the road normal guests. We call it the 'Middle of the Bell Curve' Model.

[@laanaalove]

Based

[@MKUltraPill]

AGREE

[@mr.nobody4529]

Dude you said normal like 5xs

[@Dubbywatch]

JREG is so silly and goofy and funny and i have a real direct relationship with him that isnt parasocial and he loves me

[@peepy9115]

i agree

[@moderndaydreammm]

same.

[@valeriarico7267]

me

[@iceicicle3046]

Love ur pfp

[@PetalPunkFairy]

Best polycule ever ❤

[@flowerwall]

Jreg makes more sense to me the more mentally ill I become. I am currently experiencing extreme health failure.

[@serenedesiree]

I'm sorry to hear that. How are you dealing with it?

[@ohdarling6657]

Absolutelly. I already watched jreg before and already had severe mental illnesses, but as they worsen i understand more and more him, sometimes ironically, sometimes not.. really a crazy thing...

[@janikut_]

Jreg, inspired me to become neurotypical again ❤

[@serenedesiree]

It's super fun. More mentally ill people should do it imo!

[@janikut_]

@@serenedesiree yeah being mentally ill was wacky as hell but this is way better

[@forest.02.]

Jreg inspired me to give myself undiagnosed adhd

[@markballard6834]

this was the perfect conversation to unmask greg. you’re so authentic and kind it’s disarming, but you’re also smart enough to ask the right questions and keep the conversation on a high level. those awkward silences were perfect too

[@serenedesiree]

Thanks! I absolutely loved conducting this interview.

[@dashdashdash_]

The rabbit hole I have been down just to end up back at JREG, I cannot escape.

[@SeaOfLard]

Good.

[@ebunny1652]

same dude

[@CompuBrains27]

Great job Serene, you really showed Jreg who's more sincere!

[@serenedesiree]

I won the sincerity! 🏆💪

[@t.fakename-4421]

At the beginning of the interview, jReg jokes that his real name is "Anthony". In his "My Secret To Productivity" video, towards the end, he says he's a PhD and shows a jpeg of "Anthony Guevara" having a degree in "Mental Healthism". So, maybe there's some long running meta-joke shit going on (or maybe that's actually his name?)

[@meneertommy8690]

in his run for mayor he’s called greg guevara though, so i think that’s probably just his real name

[@E4439Qv5]

"Anthony" is actually a second name that I'll respond to as well. A classmate of mine, we got our names switched all the time.

[@no_george]

I remember fighting alongside Jreg during the Bosnian war... so brave

[@peregrinecovington4138]

Wow he's so sane it's impressive

[@theyfukenwmesubliminally]

Jreg is the dude who is so self aware he holds 10 different contradictory ideas and identites of himself simultaneously and doesnt know which one he really believes, which one is really real/genuine. Thats the way i relate to and interpret his content. And he makes really cool werid connections and demonstrates them in a cool way that makes sense somehow without having to think about it for hours on end. He organizes the weird disjointed shit we think about but never bother to fully realize, and expresses and realizes them in a cool way. It resonates with me a lot. I think it really perfectly preserves the weird ambiguous nature of that whole thing, you wanna write smth down it becomes concrete sometimes, expressing and organizing ideas for some ppl tempts ypu to make up your kind. But thats when you lose the interesting novel ambiguous nature of it. Its super subjective but tries very hard to contain everything simultaneously which is what i think of what i imagine as objective, if i have to do that.

[@nightmix]

it's the schizophrenia

[@NotaCatGirll]

Jreg probably sees valid points from most sides of the ideaological spectrum or at least understands where each side is coming from for the most part

[@carnetplank6259]

I dont know how he managed to contain himself this much Edit: nvm

[@serenedesiree]

🤣

[@mysteryblondee]

I love JREG because the videos he makes are my actual internal dialoug that i have to supress to conform to society.

[@TheInfectous]

just so you know it is entirely possible to reshape not only the structure of your internal dialogue but also the content, messaging, connotations and feeling of it. If you like yours, keep it, but if it's negative (and you dislike that), messy, critical, lacking focus or otherwise dissatisfying it absolutely is possible to change it. You wouldn't consider your bicep to be an intrinsic part of yourself, you'd consider it to be a muscle which grows or shrinks reflective of how you use it and your lifestyle. Your mind is the same. It's not easy at all though. Just wanted to say that because a lot of people don't realize there's a complete disconnect between you and your thoughts,

[@mysteryblondee]

you're so right! I meant this more as a semi-joke; however, your comment has really made me reflect on the whole concept of internal dialogue and the mind :) thank you!@@TheInfectous

[@flynnfoil]

Also, I wanna echo what Jreg said about the interview style -- it's cool. My journalism buddy says that's a technique where the person feels inclined to say more. I notice that while watching and it definitely seemed to encourage Jreg to peel back the layers of irony.

[@skyjumper4097]

jreg is so good at fluidly transitioning into and out of irony/sarcasm/whatev its called its amazing

[@danieltabakman2794]

Holy poop you got JREG on!

[@serenedesiree]

I'm as stoked as you are!

[@Uhshawdude]

This interview is frankly so much better than Jregs one with Sisyphus. Im impressed you managed to unravel his shell of 500 layers of whacky irony to actually get some interesting answers.

[@appa609]

I think he stops doing it when it stops being interesting to him

[@E4439Qv5]

​@@appa609mhm. It's a learned behavior, like the class clown I used to be.

[@Dylan-uf7uf]

@appa609, exactly. It really shows the power of silence in conversation

[@vauiarex4877]

"I believe random people know me better than I know myself"

[@tektyte]

I actually have no idea what this is. And how it got into my recommended. Take the like heh

[@serenedesiree]

Right back atcha!

[@purpleanon276]

You don't know either of these, jreg is great,

[@schrodingersbraincell5861]

I am a chronic jregger and have never seen your channel but I really enjoy the way you have engaged with him here. The only way to counteract a person so heavily entrenched in self awareness to the point of inhibiting all action (much like myself) is to be straightforward and earnest

[@E4439Qv5]

...sucks to be both self-absorbed _and_ altruistic, doesn't it...?

[@justapun8115]

Believe it or not, but this is most unironic Jreg has ever been.

[@SoVidushi]

it's cool seeing someone normal talk to this guy for once.

[@hughquigley5337]

I liked this interview. You rolled with the punches really well and just like Jr. Eg said at the end, you handle silences very comfortably and natrually! Subscribed

[@serenedesiree]

Thank you 😊

[@segefjord]

My mental state has been so shit because of all the noise for a few days. This video really helped me calm myself, a great reminder that nobody really understands mental health issues yet, and that I should not be hard on myself for behaving / thinking whatever I am. Thanks

[@serenedesiree]

That's so amazing to hear. I also have to remind myself to go easy on me.

[@GellertKyosheval]

Unironically the best interviewer on KZbin, love the content, subscribed.

[@serenedesiree]

That's so amazingly kind of you to say. Kind of hard to reply to this, it's so generous :-)

[@theyfukenwmesubliminally]

This man is capable of being normal, he just prefers to not act normal bc its easier, it doesnt establish any expectations so he can never worry if hes meeting any, at least thats what im projecting onto him bc its also smth i relate to. You never commit to smth and identify w it, because that establishes norms and expectations that you can fail to meet, even if its a werid marginal identity, it still has norms that define it.

[@j3tus15]

I am halfway thru this and it's so good, I think you really match Jreg's vibe

[@serenedesiree]

Thanks! It was a good vibe for sure

[@SgtLion]

Not watched you before, got recommended, but this is a.. wild interview. Mad respect to you, Serene, it's very hard for me to see how genuine Jreg is or isn't being from moment to moment, he obviously just.. says a lot of things, but you really handle it calmly, respectfully, and with joy :) You manage to relate to him where I'm not sure I'd make any headway. Makes for a fun dynamic for an interview too, even if I'm not sure what to think at any given second.

[@serenedesiree]

I had an absolute blast with this one. I'm so glad he took the time to come on and chose to share himself so fully. Thanks for the compliment!

[@rocky-ie7li]

honestly ive never experience an interesting and well profound(spiritual)podcast in a longgggg time,good job! show them! and keep doing it.

[@serenedesiree]

What a nice compliment! Thank you so much!

[@dildswagginz3408]

15:07 are they not going to address the strange witch's potion he pours into a glass from his cauldron and starts drinking? What is that?!

[@georgelore]

You were able to ask the questions that I could not think of that one time I talked to him last year. You hit so many things that I really wanted to ask. Thanks!

[@kujojotarostandoceanman2641]

This feels more like the girl reporter interviewing Hannibal and Hannibal trying to therapy her

[@E4439Qv5]

Agreed. This interview pairs well with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

[@camdenwyeth316]

Thanks for doing this guys, and thanks for doing it jreg, was fun and genuinely insightful

[@4TheWinQuinn]

Hey I knew JREG from Whatifalthist. Great interview you both have excellent sense of humour, I was laughing the whole time🙏

[@MindNMetropolis]

Best interview

[@angelinakodjabashia7416]

Jreg is such a silly guy

[@brightshining]

I love this interview! 😊 you guysbare amazing ;)

[@serenedesiree]

No YOU'RE amazing

[@flynnfoil]

This video made my dog renounce extremism. Jreg is a bad influence, tell him to say away from my dog.

[@appa609]

Her name suits her. She has serene energy.

[@serenedesiree]

Thanks! My parents named me well!

[@GORTRON_THE_DESTROYER]

You're a very good interviewer. great video!

[@serenedesiree]

Thanks dude! Let me know if there's anyone you'd like me to interview!

[@infj4w511]

Since y'all told me to go transmaxxing, I'll share my experience. Personally, whenever I realize I'm attracted to something in a man, I also realize that I got no rizz, and am hella shy and awkward. So then I try to teach myself those attractive traits. Same thing goes for when I think another woman is better at being a woman than me. Thing is, though, maxing yourself doesn't replace relationships. Even if you don't need no man, you're still going to feel like your efforts are kind of purposeless if you're not sharing the outcome with anyone else

[@theyfukenwmesubliminally]

Saaame. So true. Such facts.

[@GORTRON_THE_DESTROYER]

this kinds plays into how men and women are just sorta constructs we percive. You see no reason why someone of a different construct should not be studied from. And others would argue men are men and women are women and thats not a construct and I'd tell you to like, uh this is youtube im not gonna say that, but your wrong they're what you percive them as. Sure sex is a thing but trans people who pass prove sex does not determine if they're percived as a man or women.

[@1992heb]

The ego conversation was great. The joke was perfect too

[@jackperry6269]

keep podcast coming!

[@serenedesiree]

Thanks Jack!

[@ephraimherer9406]

That was a normal and wholesome interview

[@shutupankur]

jregory's persona often edges into sam hyde ted talk territory

[@serenedesiree]

Everybody close your eyes!

[@ebunny1652]

unironically I really enjoyed this video. actually made my laugh a lot, but also gave me a lot to think about. might be one of my favourite videos I've watched in a while. but I can't be bothered to get into specifics right now. based

[@serenedesiree]

Indescribably based reply

[@7bladesky890]

Seems like he is hypomanic here

[@nairb2173]

Nah I think he’s just on a lot of nicotine here to suppress a more depressive period

[@Boreality_]

This is actually a really great interview no cap

[@serenedesiree]

Thank you! I was very unsure about how it would go. Glad it went so well!

[@NOBODYASKEDFORAFILM]

one of the best jreg videos

[@helpthebirdsarekeepingmeho4368]

Really love this podcast episode, great personality all around and the parasocial relationship doesn't hurt!

[@elenoretsiklauri9029]

I love this boy's eyes

[@fivws]

Clean 😎

[@WAVESprod]

The part at 7:00 really touched me in a special way ✨

[@anywallsocket]

Nice 🤙

[@goodleshoes]

I'd love to interview him, good job.

[@serenedesiree]

It was super fun!

[@LiquidDemocracyNH]

As a jreg fan I assure Serene that i have very normal left of center opinions. I mean I'm an incel, secessionist, anti-globalization localist, influenced by the technocratic ideas of radical centrists and I'm nonbinary and support trans rights, but don't believe in psychiatric diagnoses. I have normal political opinions like: we should abolish peer review from the scientific process, or secularism should be abolished (im an atheist btw), or we should use industrial policy to gradually move away from animal agriculture through what one might call a "vegan new deal." I think echo chambers are a positive development in political discourse, and I strongly support the rights of brothers and sisters to have sex with one another freely, who does it hurt really? You'll see me in the news one day when i help make Liquid Democracy a national movement

[@mikikro3126]

His face is screaming "please help me" after every sentence.

[@serenedesiree]

In a good way though

[@garbagecanplay]

Could we organize a terrorist effort where by we blow up all chip manufactures to defeat the robots and reclaim our boredom? Naw we should just grill tbh. The terror in his eyes when she said 'we just look each other in the eye and talk about life' was palpable.

[@squarrot9355]

shes so normal

[@E4439Qv5]

yeah... I'm concerned for how sane she is. 😉

[@adamszekrenyes9741]

oh yes garage is my fav creator

[@garrettredding2837]

my brain is currently dying after using this as background noise while organizing

[@serenedesiree]

As long as your ordered your items from most to least based

[@acceptedsugar]

i used this to study and my productivity spiked for like 45 minutes before i had to stop and stare at myself in the mirror for a bit

[@garrettredding2837]

@@acceptedsugar xd

[@serenedesiree]

@@acceptedsugar what did you see?

[@acceptedsugar]

@@serenedesireei saw a little bit of God and a little bit of Satan

[@monnicamii]

Good Stuff

[@greenhound]

i'm disassociating so hard while watching this, where my disassocooners at

[@Makem12]

Jreg is one of those people who I am just unable to have confidence that what they're saying is how they truly feel. Even in this video I'm not sure. I guess that's one of the side effects of all the media he's put out over the years

[@Chrysamer77]

jrEG is my Vril god

[@bonkatronka]

normally when I'm listening to podcasts I'm alt-tabbed idk if that's possible here.

[@serenedesiree]

[@SchizoidAngst]

I would enjoy talking to you, your demeanor is good for interviews, what's a content creator gotta do to get in on this?

[@serenedesiree]

Send me an email! [e-mail]

[@SchizoidAngst]

@serenedesiree sounds good will do

[@Jreg2]

Jreg

[@timisontube]

2

[@Apple.Tetanus]

Serene reminds me of Anne Lamott

[@understanding77]

The host looks like a young Shelly duval

[@squarrot9355]

YAAAYAYY GREGGG

[@unitariansavage8513]

He looks exactly like the guy from the "I just bought more land in the metaverse!" ad on the thumbnail

[@darkcnotion]

I don't know if he lied the whole thing through...

[@E4439Qv5]

"Lying" is done with the intent to deceive. Jreg has no such ill-will; he just genuinely doesn't know.

[@SIGSEGV1337]

this feels like a nick land lecture

[@hidebehind3565]

I would love to see another interview now that he is sane and completely cured

[@cb603]

Thank u I luv Jreg :3

[@eliobrid]

i duno, this seamed pretty normal

[@Styfalled]

Jreg the idea vs jreg the man

[@serenedesiree]

Which one won?

[@GORTRON_THE_DESTROYER]

I'd argue the man. but such fights never really end

[@E4439Qv5]

_Perchance._

[@blackspiralstorytelling4402]

Pretty sure the center of a W is a Carot ^

[@serenedesiree]

I don't get it!

[@hughquigley5337]

@@serenedesiree The very center of of a W is the peak of the middle part of the letter, which is very similar to one of these symbols: ^

[@serenedesiree]

@@hughquigley5337 ahhhhhh

[@ronmka8931]

after watching junior REG for years, I still cant genuinely understand who he actually is...

[@E4439Qv5]

He's a man adrift in a society that can't give him anything more fulfilling than simply having him be off in his corner, making art.

[@Fluff-gl6yr]

23:24 I disagree, if that alpaca was instantaneously afflicted with a human consciousness it would be going: “BLEEEEEERGHH SCREEEE AAAAARGHHH THE HORROR! THE UNRELENTING HORROR!!! BLUUUURRGH”

[@serenedesiree]

@@Fluff-gl6yr WHERE AM I? HOW DO I GET BACK TO MY WIFE AND KIDS?!!!

[@channingcheese2]

40:47 Jreg outs himself as a brony

[@E4439Qv5]

Jrabrony

[@realtombergeron5229]

most genuine J reg

[@blackspiralstorytelling4402]

Wait, to take an answer seriously, is there a social tier in society based on internet popularity? Is this why so many people aspire to be influencers?

[@serenedesiree]

Yes, I'd say so. You can probably deduce this through personal experience. Do you have a favorite influencer? Do you respect them, and would you be excited or nervous to meet them? If the answer is yes, that means they're high status.

[@blackspiralstorytelling4402]

@@serenedesireeI do not respect JREG but he is my favorite influencer :D

[@chancelafranceism]

For the record, Pentecostals are Protestants, yet that reinforces what Greg was saying. About you Serene, will be checking out your other videos! Thank you for your time.

[@serenedesiree]

Thank you! Are you Pentecostal?

[@chancelafranceism]

@@serenedesiree Of course! No, however, I was raised around many different denominations (and religions, for that matter.)

[@infj4w511]

Jreg is definitely more culturally right wing/nationalist than some like to believe, and he definitely has a whole spectrum of followers.Also, the centricide was definitely constructed in his mind, even if you deny believing that he could ever even come close to agreeing with his general message. Why did you think he had to keep repeating out loud that online extremism was terrible? It was quite similar to how he was stating so emphatically that we're going to figure out all our crises like AI, and all without coming any convincing arguments.

[@barakeel]

Don't out him like this!

[@E4439Qv5]

"Well, the way _I_ see it... there's really no difference in being seen as left-wing or right-wing either way."

[@porridgeramen7220]

crazy to think Greg Guevara's been running for 26 episodes....

[@serenedesiree]

No it's Greg's 26th clone

[@stefankalin]

1:11:07 earmark for standup routine

[@schippai3308]

love junior eg

[@serenedesiree]

I'm a bigger fan of senior egg myself

[@stefankalin]

42:12 no…. Uh, I mean yes

[@oui2611]

8:04 this happens to me when i watch Joe Rogan. i think "that was a nice respectful conversation" and the comments make it about how much Joe owned the guest or vice versa. I think people are too accustomed to drama, shock and outrage that they look for it in too many places.

[@TheSlashes]

That going to Isreal comment got real sour real quick.

[@Abigail_Nikolaev]

Jr. Egg

[@novai6554]

51:38 MATT RIFE⁉️⁉️⁉️

[@appa609]

Was this a date?

[@serenedesiree]

Nope!

[@igorzalevski8418]

1:05:20

[@lumppump1182]

you can tell the stimulants are eating his ego from the inside out

[@MegaKnodel]

Comment

[@serenedesiree]

Reply!

[@ErikQuintanillaMusic66]

​@@serenedesireeIDK why this was the most wholesome comment even though everyone was super nice lol.

[@nullvoid3265]

Nah, Ottawa is actually the worst. John Reginald was actually quite right when he said it was filthy.