MEGADETH - GAR SAMUELSON VS NICK MENZA

R.I.P Gar and Nick
Just for fun, without them Megadeth and even metal wouldn't been the same.
Songs:
0:00 Wake Up Dead (Gar and Nick)
2:13 - 3:33 Rattlehead (Gar - Live Tokyo 1987/ Nick - Live 1990)
3:19 Very rare footage of Gar isane drum fill
4:26 Bad Omen (Gar)
5:23 Take No Prisoners (Nick)
6:09 Five Magics (Nick)
7:17 My Last Words (Gar)
Sadly its hard to find videos with a good audio quality with Gar behind the kit.

[@2Times22]

Gar's playing so smooth and clean..Nick was a great drummer,but imagine if Gar had stayed with the band..The evolution that he would have..He was just great..!!!

[@barrymatthews6149]

Oh ya he was he had played in a lot of jazz bands before Megadeth

[@N_Richd1]

Yeah man, Gars was an awesome drummer 🥁 He suited Megadeth to a T. What happened to him.?

[@eduardo_369_]

@@N_Richd1 R.I.P. :(

[@N_Richd1]

@@eduardo_369_ oh no... :(

[@likcxs1530]

@@N_Richd1 he was really fucked up near the end, he was so strung out they fired him and there’s only a couple minutes of footage of him alive it’s pretty sad

[@andrewcarlson9492]

I love nick, but nobody had gars jazz style. The best drumming of the era imo. Hands down.

[@martinliberatti4794]

Gar’s snare-cymbal arrangements are amazing and extremely fast..a whole new level…you can tell his jazz-fusion background

[@chrisnizer5702]

Gar Samuelson had that funky fusion jazz background and that's besides the fact that he was just an absolute BEAST, a freak of nature, whenever he played drums.

[@john54367]

Gar is far the best drummer of that time period. Probably won't be surpassed either!

[@themechanix8804]

@@sandyc7250 Truth be told, but the current lineup its the most technical Megadeth lineup. Dirk can play the Gar stuff like "that's easy".

[@barrymatthews6149]

I really feel sorry for Gar because of his heroin problem he and Chris Poland both had a bad heroin addiction before they got in the band and Gar said to Dave if you want to be great you have to do heroin and Dave replied I want to be great and it was off to the races after that for both Dave and David E or. JR Dave and the other bands members referred to David E "damn the bad choices" we all make well I know I've have made some but learned from them and also other people's mistakes. Tough way to learn by making bad mistakes or choices but sadly sometime that's what it takes at least it did for me R.I.P Gar and Nick. I ran into Nick a few times twice he and his family were on vacation and staying at the same hotel and he was very talkative the first time we have a mutual drummer friend Nick was a cool dude and at the rate Gar was going I don't think he would have lasted long he needed help no doubt 🤘💯🤘🍀🌎🌍🌟

[@barrymatthews6149]

@@sandyc7250 no offense intended but your the only female that knows what she is talking about Megadeth I don't know any at all well one and she just knows one song the name of it. You know what your talking about wow

[@barrymatthews6149]

@@sandyc7250 do you play an instrument ?

[@wheel326]

Gar is more technical and adds a lot of jazz/intricate and pleasurable influence to the song considering his background in jazz music. Nick is a thrasher and he plays hard, giving the song more impact, power and he doesn't stop until the groove is beaten to deth. He doesn't really do the Gar fills of crash + ghost note snare except in Rattlehead. Both recorded their signature sound on their respective albums. I like both drummers.

[@brooks2198]

Id argue that menza definitely takes the lead on the jazzy end, sure gar based his drumming on jazz but it was very rugged compared to more groovy jazz like what menza plays, both are phenomenal but are quite distinct

[@jorgepetulars8436]

Gar was fantastic.. very clean, fair, precise an unbeatable technique I didn't make so much effort to be able to play in speed

[@henrytate5206]

No disrespect to Nick but I think Gar was better and it’s not even close. His drumming alone is why Peace Sells is an all time favorite album of mine. Such a distinct and creative approach to every single song, and very hard to replicate. I remember hearing that Mustaine once said Dave Ellefson was their secret weapon, but in reality I think it was Gar. Their first two albums were absolute dynamite. I wasn’t really a fan of their music after Gar and Poland were let go. Rest in peace to them both.

[@stevebauer3727]

Could not have said it better myself! Check out his post Megadeth band Fatal Oper as well.

[@leonshreds]

i agree with waht you are saying here i dont think anyone will ever admit it especially dave mustaine but i think gar samuelson was the best musician out of the band when he was in it he had aHUGE INFLUENCE on the band peace sells was their first big big hit before so far so good so what peace sells was originally 7 minutes long, then gar suggested to make it shorter, gar also told dave he should focus on politics in his lyrics.. which is a main megadeth lyric style i got to talk to chris poland and david ellefson recently, i chatted with them for a bit and asked them about their favorite memory with gar, they both said it was when they were driving to a concert they were playing, and gar had a magazine with metallica on the center fold, he pointed and said "see dave, you would still be in the band if you werent such a dick" and then dave replied in a joking and funy way of "ohh fuck off" no one else AND I MEAN NO ONE ELSE could have said that to dave even chris said it i think gar had a certain effect and influence on dave that no one else in the world ever had, gar really was something else, RIP

[@VanDerLaars]

Gar is forever my fave MegaDrummer. Nick is my second.

[@marcodaoho4441]

Gar could make a simple beat like peace sells sound so good, Nick had his chance with symphony of distruction, hearing and feeling are 2 different things

[@robbinswhite]

He was a jazz musician

[@leonshreds]

i agree with this

[@BuggritHall]

Nick was immense but for me Gar was on a different level. Favourite bit of Gar for me was on the Skull Beneath the Skin intro which only really came to the fore on the final kill.

[@leonshreds]

I AGREE, absolutely amazing, feel free to check out gars isolated drums for skull beneath the skin on my youtube

[@pulp735]

Gar was better. No disrespect to Nick, but Gar was in a league of his own.

[@user-yf4up2px2u]

both of them ! great drummers

[@blppt]

Not really fair---because Gar never played anything Nick wrote we have Nick just playing somebody else's drumlines, written for somebody else's style. That being said, Gar was one of the most creative, tasty drummers who ever played in a thrash band.

[@michaelandrepont]

Gar all day everyday man. Not even close

[@zDialecticChaos]

Gar is the best drummer to be in Megadeth, nick is great but Gar is on another level

[@krashboombang]

Gar, smooth and effortless. Old school good.

[@rohantiwari7801]

Gar is the Clive Burr of Thrash. Best

[@N_Richd1]

Speed metal.. Thrash metal is a different style.. I say a perfect example might be Napalm Death (can't think too much right now as I have a headache from drinking last night, but that's one example of thrash metal, Anthrax might be another 🤯).

[@GentlemanJunkie95]

Nick: Rock Solid and powerful Gar: Wild, frantic and creative I think both were the perfect fit for their respective eras. Gar fit the wild early years, Nick fit the more Controlled Songs better. I preger Gar, but what we can all agree in is that These two we're never surpassed by anyone WHO came later on

[@johnsaenz9254]

Both bad ass. IT'S hard to choose cuz they are both bad ass

[@jasonclark9963]

They were both great but I would go with Menza.

[@ajajajajajajajajajaj]

Those early songs needed Gar. They didn’t need to be bruising. They needed to be full. Huge difference. Gar was acrobatic on the set. Light but weighty at the same time. Nick was perfect for his era, and it’s likely Gar wouldn’t be as good a fit for Nick’s stuff because they’re totally different, and so are the songs. Nick had his own voice too. Gar, as a drummer, is someone I’d rather play with than Nick just because Gar will add a fuller voice to the tune.

[@magnusjmvc8895]

Such an amazing video thank you!

[@diegoambrosio9121]

Gar is the Megadeth drummer. In two records the guy created the sound of the band.

[@leonshreds]

true

[@chrisberg2083]

Comparing Gar to Nick is like comparing Dave to Kirk

[@maximpopov199]

Gar is an original drummer, yeah he wrote drums for Megadeths classics, but what's the point of declair or choose of them the best. Mustaine changed drummers like a gloves, he seemed didn't care who's his drummer. If they were chosen they all the best.

[@grahamjarman]

cant really blame dave for firing gar. major heroin addict who was slackin bigtime

[@BegetterVIIEVEN]

Drover was a weak drummer imo.

[@maximpopov199]

@@BegetterVIIEVEN No, I dont think so! But he was too predictable , his parts was kinda boring

[@ДмитрийПушкарев-в2з]

R.I.P.

[@bjarild999]

Its not even a contest...Gar is the best drummer Megadeth and IMO 80s metal ever had...just keep in mind Gar wrote those drums...Nick only copies and can therfore make it seem like he was clever with somethings...

[@grahamjarman]

nick wrote his own drum parts 2 diff styles both great drummers gar looser nick tighter

[@LuckyLarry33]

Gar is a much more traditional drummer as in more jazz oriented, definately cut his teeth on 70s rock I'm sure. Whereas Nick is a more or less refined thrash drummer solely. Imo

[@MikoDarkblade]

I never though I'd say this but Wake up dead was much better with Gar for me!!

[@garrypurchaseartist7313]

As it should be…. He’s the one who played on that track. It’s his.

[@tricky92x]

@@garrypurchaseartist7313 Nick couldn't replicate it. Dirk does, however.

[@brianhiltz237]

Nick got better as the yrs past.He became a force to recon with!!!rip Nick an garth

[@dwaynestjohn5324]

Both are great but I would pick Gar.

[@orionburton3829]

everyone doing what their own in their time.

[@TonyT007]

Nick Menza auditioned for Slayer before Dave Lombardo .

[@Catinthehackmatrix]

Do beaters make that much of a difference, most of these metal beats using triggers and tiny little drum beaters from what I hear. So if your learning double bass pedal, you might hear a less accurate or the same punch as you hear in recordings.

[@juankserrano968]

mi favorito siempre es nick menza

[@Pixpi]

Gar

[@brandonkindt1205]

No fair showing clips of post-Megadeth Menza when he was fighting the monkey on his back.

[@michaelpatterson9119]

gars 1/6 and 1/8 notes are consistently more cleaner.thats the difference.

[@terryalter2980]

Gar by far the better drummer and better than Lars. he was a freakin nut just listen to Rattlehead

[@leonshreds]

yup! i agree, feel free to check out his isolated drums from rattlehead on my page, and its his actual drums not some drum track from an app or some shit

[@LUckybones25]

Both were great, but Gar was a bit more polished.

[@VanDerLaars]

Never seen Nick as a double bass guy.

[@jasonjenkyns5083]

Gar had wrists, Nick had fists...

[@wama781]

Nick can be faster if he plays his own drum tracks

[@vstkingdom8732]

nick menso gar awesome

[@user-gu3ie]

So why exactly should this be a contest? Wtf does it matter..they both did what megadeth needed... stop with the contest bs

[@the_motherfucker]

All they're doing is showing how their drumming sounds compared to each other, stop taking it so seriously, if you don't like videos like these then nobody is forcing you to watch them

[@mackenroll6914]

For real. It's just a comparison.

[@Pixpi]

Nick

[@nowayinhell91]

Megadeth sulked after the first incarnation.

[@mycustomyoutubechannel2539]

Yep, although I'm a big fan of so far so good and RIP, everything that comes after those is just awful compared to the 4 first albums.

[@wama781]

No

[@carlosluismendez7392]

hahaha bullshit

[@stevebauer3727]

Chris Poland on RIP would have been awesome. He demoed solos for 6 of the tunes in 1989 with only 3 ever released.

[@leonshreds]

my favorite albums are kimb and peace sells, the sound that chris and gar gave the music was jsut insane

[@mannymoreira3710]

Chuck Behler for the win!

[@themechanix8804]

To be honest I think he's great. He just suffered to be between Gar and Nick on the timeline.

[@ghostlandgrand64]

Lmao said no one but ok 😂🤘🏾

[@N_Richd1]

@@ghostlandgrand64 Yup lols.. I was like 'who's chuck behler.? '.. Nō disrespect to him, I obviously missed an era, but what albums did he drum on.?

[@ghostlandgrand64]

@@N_Richd1 The only note worthy one I know bro, is So Far So Good, So What. Few years ago saw him jamming Darkest Hour with Ellefson. Chuck was solid. Nick was just better, on a better album. With a better lineup 😆

[@N_Richd1]

@@ghostlandgrand64 Right right.. Thanks 👍

[@brianhiltz237]

About equal

[@김진우-j4f]

Lars is better than both.

[@leonshreds]

lmfao

[@tricky92x]

I like your sense of humor.

[@KillEmAll0325]

This is not only fan ship.Gar samuelson wins only.