Why Mad Mew Mew Matters | Undertale Character Analysis

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@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
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@beril6248
@beril6248 2 жыл бұрын
How about: The Potential of Ruins Dummy And Their Portrayal in Fan Works? They may be seen as a joke character, (with commentary on how characters in other games are sometimes nonentities and you can have an illusion of a choice) but as with Napstablook rising from the status of test monster and Maddie's importance in the console ports, there is much that could be done with them. I myself have used the little we know of them to write several speculative roleplay versions of them, including one inspired by Storyshift's version of them- and I have grown rather fond of them through that.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
@@beril6248 Yeah, Ruins Dummy is a curious case where they're almost a non-character who is only confirmed to exist for a joke. We have very little to go off of their characterization beyond tiring of aimless shenanigans and what Mew Mew tells us before her dummy fight. Even Inverted Fate kinda had to guess a lot, with them being very quiet and a lot less proactive than their cousins.
@inciniumz4671
@inciniumz4671 2 жыл бұрын
Just posted a comment that will get me hate but it was worth it. Please, at least you, Dorked, understand it's not one of hate or "marginalizing" but speaking the truth as I know it. If you think ill of me, I understand and I do hope I can be forgiven. Still, despite my personal disagreement the video was still well made and you made good content
@beril6248
@beril6248 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked I liked their characterization in Inverted Fate- it was sweet, with a good message about trying things out but ultimately being yourself. I can relate to that, as I tried on an edgy character in my youth, and then organically came to understand that I'd prefer being "cozy" and quietly accepted rather than someone on the fringes, doing things for attention. Also, that passiveness is somewhat interesting as it puts them on the scale of the ghost family where Mettaton and Mad Mew Mew are more proactive and Napstablook and the ghost in the dummy seem to prefer to stay where they are. I've been experimenting with ways my "takes" on ruins dummy communicate and interact in their settings- from the nonverbal one who speaks through letter cards, penned letters, and then airtext ala Mad Dummy's intro when they feel they need to speak up in a highstakes situation- to the one who speaks only in ghost form and playfully uses their air text to emote while inhabiting their dummy. And then there was the one that communicated verbally, even arguing with their cousin when she annoyed them, but who was more vulnerable and sensitive in quiet moments. My current variation on Ruins Dummy is quiet and prefers to pretend to just be a dummy/onlooker even in stressful situations (ex: the "looks like it's about to fall over" UT text), but has too much curiosity (and wish to ponder philosophy) to stay put when circumstances they happen to witness really get interesting.
@evilbird4012
@evilbird4012 2 жыл бұрын
Here We Go Again? Though I’m not sure since iirc it was someone else who made it
@potatopotato3284
@potatopotato3284 2 жыл бұрын
Just realised, cats like fish. Mew mew likes Undyne. I don't know if that was intentional by Toby but it's funny regardless
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
And then I used A Fishy Aroma from Umineko. It all comes back together. /mysterious sparkles
@imhungryletseat2303
@imhungryletseat2303 2 жыл бұрын
Off-topic, but the Zenyatta profile pic is excellent (cuz Zenyatta's the profile pic)
@potatopotato3284
@potatopotato3284 2 жыл бұрын
@@imhungryletseat2303 he's a chill guy, I think he's cool :)
@oli-producer
@oli-producer Жыл бұрын
oh no...
@PossiblyAkid
@PossiblyAkid Жыл бұрын
Ah hell naw she boutta eat undyne
@EmilyCorradino
@EmilyCorradino 2 жыл бұрын
When she bonds with the dummy in the genocide run, she's not happy about the body, she's happy she finally bonded with a body. I think that's an important distinction.
@ChargeQM
@ChargeQM Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to feel 'normal.' God, I salute anyone who finds their way through gender dysphoria in these sad times. I'm gonna keep helping in any small way I can; you all have friends out there rooting for you!
@GliYch
@GliYch Жыл бұрын
Wait that means, even if we spare the "glad" dummy in the genocide route, we are still indirectly terrible? Damn.
@gamertypeawesome
@gamertypeawesome Жыл бұрын
​@@GliYch well you do still have to kill like 40 people to get glad dummy...
@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo
@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo 9 ай бұрын
@@GliYchindeed
@polocatfan
@polocatfan 7 ай бұрын
I think for them, any body is better than none, but the catgirl body is better than the dummy body. I mean even Mettaton doesn't have his preferred body, but it's just "good enough" which is a thing from what I've seen. You can't always have a perfect body, and that's ok and should be understood!
@notokay4970
@notokay4970 2 жыл бұрын
How can I not have unrealistic transition goals when I'm looking up to Mad Mew Mew? Who doesn't want to be an anime cat girl with a love of knives.
@tatteryt
@tatteryt 2 жыл бұрын
You'll make it someday!!
@armoredman10
@armoredman10 2 жыл бұрын
Who knows? After lots of hard work maybe even you can develop a love of knives
@Lumberjack_king
@Lumberjack_king Жыл бұрын
Knives are cool
@Claramoo
@Claramoo Жыл бұрын
*happy ddlc yuri noises*
@silvercandra4275
@silvercandra4275 Жыл бұрын
I don't. I'd rather be robot with really hot legs.
@matias3542
@matias3542 2 жыл бұрын
A love how the ghost cousins fit that pronouns cup image He/Him: Mettaton She/Her: Madmewmew Cool Hat: snaptablook
@tatteryt
@tatteryt 2 жыл бұрын
COOL HAT 💀
@poolpaws
@poolpaws 2 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD UR RIGHT
@Swarps
@Swarps 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure it’s he/him that’s replaced with the cool hat one Alright just checked and yeah it’s the he/him that’s missing
@tatteryt
@tatteryt 2 жыл бұрын
@@Swarps Napstablook is they/them i believe
@Swarps
@Swarps 2 жыл бұрын
@@tatteryt yeah they are. I’m talking about the pronoun cup image
@Harlegeist
@Harlegeist 2 жыл бұрын
You know, the ghost cousins being canonically trans makes mettaton and mad mew mew's reclusiveness + self worth issues in deltarune even more tragic.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it makes me hope they can find bodies they love in the DR world, too.
@paichni3474
@paichni3474 2 жыл бұрын
Wait mad mew mew is in Deltarune? Where is she?
@DogDogGodFog
@DogDogGodFog 2 жыл бұрын
@@paichni3474 Blook house
@AstridRuna
@AstridRuna 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked makes me wonder about blooky too, where are they in dr, might they get a body that they like this time?
@darealsooski
@darealsooski 2 жыл бұрын
Hopeful assumption; NAPSTABLOOK is gonna arrive in chapter 3 instead of Undyne, and we'll get a lot more subtext through them about Metta and Mad and maybe there'll be a happy resolve for the both of them by the end of the game. Napstablook really needs more development from UT anyway, they're such a loveable character (even if Undyne is so much fun)
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm just really glad Toby took his subtle trans allegory that was the ghosts wanting their preferred bodies, and Mettaton's backstory, and finally allowed us to see the whole process in a much more personal manner, down to the detail of Mad Mew Mew using she/her pronouns, unlike when she was the Mad Dummy and still used they/them pronouns. Awesome way to show people just what it means to them to transition.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think it's also just really interesting how with ghosts, they start out as genderless and then may choose to seek out more gendered bodies, with the dummies seeming to be like the. "Cis" vessel for ghost monsters, if that makes sense. Ruins Dummy and Mad Dummy both use they (and it), whereas Mew Mew and MTT are more binary gendered.
@chipkid
@chipkid 2 жыл бұрын
@@simnm8057 some people need it though. Some people are uncomfortable with their bodies and need to have things done. So yeah.
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement 2 жыл бұрын
@@simnm8057 _sigh_ Dude, did that really just go over your head? Yes we aren't ghosts, but Toby's use of them is an analogy for actual trans people who feel uncomfortable in their bodies.
@TheCappuccino04
@TheCappuccino04 2 жыл бұрын
@@simnm8057 there's a difference between simply "being uncomfortable" from time to time and "genuinely feeling sick or downright hating the body you were born with or gender you were assigned at birth," it's more than a simple discomfort typically
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement 2 жыл бұрын
@@simnm8057 When said discomfort your body stems from your assigned gender/birth sex? Why not?
@abby_bob
@abby_bob 2 жыл бұрын
it's not super important to her character or anything, but i've always really loved the choice of making her an anime catgirl. i know it's a pretty common stereotype for trans women to be obsessed with hyperfemininity, especially in anime. turning this on it's head by making mad mew mew cutesy and feminine but also assertive and mad is funny, but also resonates a lot with my experience as a trans woman. (i'm sorry if this comment is a little scattered, it's hard for me to find the right words)
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's a really neat comment, tbh! It's really awesome hearing about people's personal connections with Mew Mew and how she's so reflective of people's lived experiences. c:
@barnyettathedinosaur1357
@barnyettathedinosaur1357 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no I absolutely love it too, Mew Mew helps reassure me I don't gotta be hyper fem to be valid
@superioroakmc942
@superioroakmc942 2 жыл бұрын
Catgirl-girlboss
@frantz48_
@frantz48_ 2 жыл бұрын
Tf ? ITS JUST A FUCKING GHOST.
@superioroakmc942
@superioroakmc942 2 жыл бұрын
@@frantz48_ A catgirl ghost!
@jetstreamjackie3437
@jetstreamjackie3437 2 жыл бұрын
“I’m a HERO, and I rescued MYSELF!!!” is the most transgender line, I LOVE this angry bitch. As a trans woman myself, her dialogue and feelings are so fuckin relatable. They knocked it out of the park!!!
@RichConnerGMN
@RichConnerGMN 2 жыл бұрын
nice pfp
@Axius27
@Axius27 2 жыл бұрын
I'd hardly say she's a bitch, she's a cat, not a dog :P
@RaysGamingChannel2003
@RaysGamingChannel2003 Жыл бұрын
Same Mad Mew Mew is my favorite character
@EEEEEEE36364
@EEEEEEE36364 Жыл бұрын
YESSS!!! That line is AWESOME!
@Brydav_Massbear
@Brydav_Massbear 11 ай бұрын
I thought the line was supposed to be literal, as in she *literally* saved herself.
@todpolle
@todpolle 2 жыл бұрын
Mad Dummy was one of my favourite bosses and I thought she was underrated. Glad to see she's getting more love. Also. Having the Mrw Mew fight makes the Switch version the best version
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's really no contest. Dog Shrine and Casino are cute but not as beefy as a fight.
@jason256-8
@jason256-8 2 жыл бұрын
I like Mad Mew Mew not because of her usual angry behavior. She looks really cute and she’s quite special as a character.
@Lechgang
@Lechgang 2 жыл бұрын
I am in awe that there's a sapphic, masochistic, trans, catgirl in this game and we haven't jumped on this quicker.
@lav-kitty
@lav-kitty Жыл бұрын
I mean when you put it like that
@enby_clown
@enby_clown Жыл бұрын
more likely bi*
@lav-kitty
@lav-kitty Жыл бұрын
@@enby_clown bi or not, sapphic
@uncroppedsoop
@uncroppedsoop Жыл бұрын
@@enby_clown why would she be? as far as I know she's only shown romantic interest in Undyne
@alphadroid_131
@alphadroid_131 11 ай бұрын
@@uncroppedsoopcan’t remember the lines that prove this but… She’s bi-panicking over the same people as Alphys.
@Heroman3003
@Heroman3003 2 жыл бұрын
Okay this is somewhat completely unrelated but I have kind of come to a something of realization recently regarding general personalities of four ghosts characters that we are aware of: They fall into the "Four Humours" chart rather well, with everything that we know if, even with Mew Mew's expanded character. Mettaton is sanguine, constgantly presenting positive and active outlook. Mew Mew is choleric, even after growing more comfortable, remains extremely impulsive and prone to angry-seeming outbursts. Napstablook is melancholic, this one needs little explanation. And the Training Dummy, the one that Mew Mew tries to defend during the original Mad Dummy fight... Well, with what little we know of them, we know that they are extremely passive and not too interactive. I think they might fall into phlegmatic category. This might be me overthinking things, especially with assigning Training Dummy a personality without them really ever 'properly' interacting with us. But I do think that this fits too well with remaining ghosts and with Deltarune's developments, we might learn even more about both Mew Mew and Mettaton, particularly what their personalities were like prior to finding of the bodies.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, that's an interesting take! Not something I woulda considered, but very interesting if it was deliberate on Toby's part. :o
@scatterbrain8764
@scatterbrain8764 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it never occurred to me that the Ruins dummy could be a seperate character. I always thought that was Napstablook before he ended up on that pile of leaves where you fight him for real. But I guess my theory didn't really make sense, since you'd think Napstablook might remember if he'd encountered you before the real fight.
@BookWyrmOnAString
@BookWyrmOnAString 6 ай бұрын
​@@scatterbrain8764*they
@chips6042
@chips6042 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the ghosts have a non cis allegory. Napstablook uses they/them, Mettaton is a man who dresses is pink and just loves femininity
@RGC_animation
@RGC_animation 2 жыл бұрын
Napstablook identify as Cool/Hat.
@oli-producer
@oli-producer Жыл бұрын
Yesss
@ValiTheSaltMan
@ValiTheSaltMan Жыл бұрын
@@RGC_animation cool hat indeed
@hasargel
@hasargel Жыл бұрын
Dapper blook
@alt4388
@alt4388 10 ай бұрын
I mean technically ghosts are they them by default meaning napstabloik would weirdly be cis?? I think that's how it works.
@ChristopherMoom
@ChristopherMoom 2 жыл бұрын
Guess you could say Mad Mew Mew initially went against the gender bi-nya-ry in her Dummy body Mad Mew Mew became one of my favorite Undertale characters once I understood how significant she was for trans representation after initially brushing her off as just a cool mew addition (i was a dumb 14-15 year old at the time of Undertale Switch's release), very much enjoyed this analysis video of her!
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Snrk. I appreciate the pun there. x) Thanks for the kind words as well! It was a fun video to make.
@unfunny4346
@unfunny4346 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm
@unfunny4346
@unfunny4346 2 жыл бұрын
So you are 18-19 now or something?
@CyanicCore
@CyanicCore 2 жыл бұрын
@@unfunny4346 In their about section
@uncroppedsoop
@uncroppedsoop 2 жыл бұрын
@@unfunny4346 and at that, all over the place. Chris really bussin it down awesome style goated with the sauce
@MackenziiRivers
@MackenziiRivers 2 жыл бұрын
i loved how mettaton was an alegory for transmale/masc people and it makes mehappy knowing transfemale/femme now have their own mettaton in a sense. just love how the ghosts begin of 'nonbianry' in a sense then they chose their bodies, and clearly can go through multiple easily before finding one they are happy with. mettaton has two forms and Mew had one she clearly was not happy in but finally found one. Sure she's still mad but she seems way more happier now than ever when we saw her as the mad dummy. i like though how Nabsta is contempt enough in their own body. not everyone wants to change and that's fine. nice that we saw 3 variations of ghosts turning out to be 3 different identities in the end. I wonder if ghosts can posses something and still choose to use they them pronouns/be considered nonbinary. that'd be fun
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Napstablook not wanting a corporeal form is really important. It shows that ghosts don't have to change to be content and can just vibe being lil' spooky fellas who make the good music. I would say they can probably still be nonbinary, since Mad Dummy used they/them initially and Ruins Dummy is also described as they.
@barnyettathedinosaur1357
@barnyettathedinosaur1357 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked this comment made me realize the four ghosts all use different pronouns. "It doesn't seem much for conversation." MTT/he, MMM/she, Blook/they Ruins/it
@xenanimates3188
@xenanimates3188 2 жыл бұрын
@@Schnort Dresses are cool man, wear whatever makes you happy and comfortable!!
@SantimsAnimations
@SantimsAnimations 2 жыл бұрын
@@Schnort i loved this comment so much tbh
@grayanddevpdx
@grayanddevpdx Жыл бұрын
I like how we got: Ghost who keeps their non-binary pronouns, but still decides to use a Dummy, and also potentially the Ruins rock. Ghost who is happy with nothing changed. Ghost which uses a feminine body. Ghost which uses a masculine body. I don’t know what the Ruins dummy is representative of, but it’s a unique idea anyways.
@AllysDrawnFantasy
@AllysDrawnFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
7:51 idk why but the part saying "being just genuinely excited to murder a child" made me laugh so badly and idk why.
@imjustgr8
@imjustgr8 2 жыл бұрын
truly the highest form of euphoria
@alanoswiecimski2080
@alanoswiecimski2080 10 ай бұрын
that line was so relatable
@FestiveAngel06
@FestiveAngel06 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to be able to be a part of this video, and for a Mad Mew Mew analysis to finally be made. She's my favorite character and also like, really important to me. Great work!
@FestiveAngel06
@FestiveAngel06 2 жыл бұрын
It's so refreshing when half the time, theorists and youtubers don't even bother to gender her correctly, ranging from an... acceptable they/them to straight up he/him. It's like people barely think of her as who she is now (which does strengthen the Trans allegory). I also particularly like the way you wrote her in IF.
@rainydeestar
@rainydeestar 2 жыл бұрын
@@FestiveAngel06 I didn't think about how people literally using the wrong pronouns for Mad Mew Mew literally enforces the point of her character, that's kinda funny in a certain way
@RichConnerGMN
@RichConnerGMN Жыл бұрын
nice pfp
@lordecramox7394
@lordecramox7394 2 жыл бұрын
Mew Mew is one of my favorite characters, and while I don't have that extra added meaning of being trans attached to them, it's great to just see her developing into a more happy person by learning who she is.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, you don't have to be trans to enjoy a good character! I'm still not sure if I'm cis or nonbinary, and I still love the heck outta her. x)
@lordecramox7394
@lordecramox7394 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked Maybe I didn't have to be trans, but now I've gone the extra mile (I was an egg beforehand)
@Okeana_Aster
@Okeana_Aster 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I never considered her that way ! I mean when first saw Mad Mew Mew, I didn't realize I'm trans yet, but even as a dummy, I really liked her angry personality. And when I saw her body change I was happy because I found her cute but she was still herself. I mean looking back at my past there's evidence of me being trans like the insane amount of girl characters I created even long before realizing I'm trans. But I forgot about Mad Mew Mew pretty quickly sadly, as her role isn't that important and that you have to dig deep in order to learn about the way she's transitioning. I hope Deltarune will bring the spotlight back onto Mad Mew Mew, as her character didn't do much thus far.
@Okeana_Aster
@Okeana_Aster 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah and like, thanks to her, we finally know what Mew Mew, that character Alphys didn't stop talking about non stop, looks like. We knew she's an anime character but we never really saw her before Mad Mew Mew so that's really cool, especially since Alphys couldn't shut up about her but yet we couldn't know what she's like.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope we get to see more of the ghost fam in general. Obviously, Deltarune is more focused on its newer cast and the Dreemurrs to an extent, but we don't know what sort of twists and turns the story will take going forward. Toby could totally surprise us!
@Okeana_Aster
@Okeana_Aster 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked Well I think the ghost family will have a big role. They have to. As an alternative universe, it would be a shame if these 3 didn't have an alternate interesting way of reaching their character development. Also one one that we could see with our own eyes like unlike in Undertale where it already happened for Mettaton when we arrive.
@averagegenzguy2751
@averagegenzguy2751 Жыл бұрын
@@Okeana_Aster Oh and you do promise to bring something to entertain Mettaton's ghost at the end of Chapter 2 so, and they say to bring something there by "tomorrow" also known as Chapter 3
@RichConnerGMN
@RichConnerGMN Жыл бұрын
nice pfp
@Beaathoney
@Beaathoney 2 жыл бұрын
Toby managed to make a character I relate to more than Disney has ever even tried
@Beaathoney
@Beaathoney 2 жыл бұрын
I also like her because she is manic and angry but also allowed to be cute and recognized as a girl without her excitability making her gender invalid
@tatteryt
@tatteryt 2 жыл бұрын
based
@Vulnresati
@Vulnresati 2 жыл бұрын
Ive had a long struggle with gender identity during highschool, because despite being male I felt feminine. I found myself in the stereotypical camp of being jealous of anime girls and frankly anyone prettier than me. But I realized that the idea of having different pronouns didn't feel right to me, and I still liked my he/him pronouns. And honestly what helped me come to terms with how I feel was Ralsei. I think a lot of people relate and appreciate Mettaton and Mew Mew for helping them with transitioning and such, but I never fell in the same camp as them. With the inclusion of Ralsei though, I felt I understood how to comfortable in my own skin, to keep my pronouns but allow myself to as feminine as I want to be and to not care about fearfully balancing my feminity and masculinity. Maybe Ralsei is a bit off topic, but it just goes to show how amazing Toby Fox is at creating characters and stories that strongly connect and inspire people constantly with his games. (Also am really hoping Ralsei isn't evil, but oh well XP)
@akgfilming
@akgfilming 2 жыл бұрын
Super heartwarming, as a maybe trans person (I don't know at this point lol) these characters are super cool for representation Also with ralsei yeah there might be some theories that he's evil but we know he's gotta be in the team at the end to stop the earth die thing
@Vulnresati
@Vulnresati 2 жыл бұрын
@@akgfilming give yourself some time to think, you'll understand what you want eventually.
@uncroppedsoop
@uncroppedsoop Жыл бұрын
shout out to criss-crossed presentation and gender
@ChimeraLotietheBunny
@ChimeraLotietheBunny 10 ай бұрын
Appreciated stuff!!!
@ArtsyPuppy
@ArtsyPuppy 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember how it never clicked for me that mew mew and mad dummy were one in the same, I genuinely thought they were two separate characters, though I also never played the switch version of the game until like...last year? even with the explicit dialogue, somehow it never clicked for me, which... honestly isn't surprising to me at least, I've had a horrible track record with noticing the obvious lmao still, it's cool to see this minor side character develop more past her origins as a funny little mini boss into a more fleshed out cast member with her own arc and story about transition and acceptance, it's good to see more rep like this, even if i'm not trans myself, just non binary
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a lot of people weren't sure they were the same or even outright dismissive of it because of years of closely held headcanons. It's a big part of why I wish Toby had made this extra content more accessible in the PC version, since it's been long enough now. Perhaps one day! A definitive version of Undertale would be awesome. Either way, the content is still there and has been acknowledged in other versions of the game and extra content, so I appreciate that at the very least.
@ArtsyPuppy
@ArtsyPuppy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked same here, honestly I'm not sure how toby could pull off the battle mechanics of mad mew mew on PC, I'm no game dev, but it would be neat to get a version of Undertale on PC with all of the console content added in it is pretty cool to see how the different console versions have different versions of the same room, though, telling a little side story it feels like, at least especially with the Xbox and Switch versions with mad mew mews inclusion in both (which I actually didn't know about til I watched this video, funny enough, haven't gotten to play the xbox version yet, but I want to eventually, since it gives me an excuse to play UT again lmao)
@kaitlynboss3497
@kaitlynboss3497 2 жыл бұрын
For me, the fact that she didn't immediately bond with her new body after the good end feels like how I feel. I know who I am now, I'm looking more like how I want to look like, but sometimes there's still a disconnect between my brain and my body and I don't feel attached for a bit. Does that make any sense? Kinda like I'm a ghost possessing a body instead of just being me.
@trueblueflare
@trueblueflare 2 жыл бұрын
Mood
@fruityfuzzball
@fruityfuzzball 2 жыл бұрын
i remember when i first encountered mad mew mew during the postgame (i had only one last healing item, so i had to use it wisely). it took me a good while for me to realize that it was mad dummy (context clues and i barely get along). at the time, i think i was still he/him, yet i strangely liked and somewhat related to her. jump to 2021, here i am known as kristy and go by she/they. now i completely understand why i felt such back in 2018. truly an experience. tl;dr: she just like me fr fr
@DE23
@DE23 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the 8 genders: Bravery, Kindness, Integrity, Justice, Patience, Perseverance, Determination, and last but not least: *Faulty Analog Sticks*
@Axius27
@Axius27 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the player didn't immediately recognize Mad Mew Mew as Mad Dummy was probably incredibly validating for her. God knows most trans people would move heaven and earth to achieve the same result :P
@heitorsant1759
@heitorsant1759 Жыл бұрын
OH GOD THE TRANS CHARACTERIS ONLY IN THE SWITCH VERSION BECAUSE THE SWITCH CAN TRANSITION FROM PORTABLE TO CONSOLE
@KwikBR
@KwikBR Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA
@BmuXD
@BmuXD Жыл бұрын
Brooo
@Lavenderflowergacha
@Lavenderflowergacha 11 ай бұрын
Best inside joke ever😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ChimeraLotietheBunny
@ChimeraLotietheBunny 10 ай бұрын
Lol
@RichConnerGMN
@RichConnerGMN 10 ай бұрын
no, no... the switch is genderfluid
@fawful9992
@fawful9992 2 жыл бұрын
10:05 I was not expecting to hear Fishy Aroma in this video. But thinking about it Mad Mew Mew is a cat, and cats like to eat fish, so it's kinda fitting.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Umineko is devouring my brain of late. I'm in a group chat that streams it twice a week (usually) and we JUST finished episode 7's tea party so it's like. I couldn't resist slipping some of the banger music in.
@FennecWitch
@FennecWitch 2 жыл бұрын
I love Mad Mew Mew so much. Thank you for making this video since she doesn't get nearly enough love due to being mostly console-exclusive.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the console exclusivity makes her somewhat unknown for more casual UT fans. Really makes me wish Toby would add console stuff to PC.
@LunizIsGlacey
@LunizIsGlacey 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, each of the console versions of the rooms are great. Dog Shrine? Glorious. Mew Mew? Glorious. Casino? Glorious. Yet, chances are, any given Undertale player has only experienced one if not none at all.
@3MB3Rx134
@3MB3Rx134 Жыл бұрын
I feel like mew mew makes the genocide route retroactively worse, with how she fuses to the dummy, basically stuck in a body she doesn't really like, only to then just die moments later. Just really kind of tragic
@name6770
@name6770 2 жыл бұрын
i think it’s pretty cool that napstablook chooses not to attempt to fuse with a dummy perhaps being an allegory for being non-binary, even though all the other ghosts besides mtt and mew mew also use gender neutral pronouns, i feel like they’re rejecting the norm of having a body as a whole rather than having an unconventional body
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think Blooky is important in showing that ghosts don't need to change to find happiness. It's one reason why a lot of MTT and Blooky swaps fall short for me, tbh. I think Blooky being incorporeal is such an important part of who they are.
@RGC_animation
@RGC_animation 2 жыл бұрын
However, before Frisk encounters them, is Blooky truly happy tho? In the game, they seem pretty depressed.
@Gamebuilder2000
@Gamebuilder2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@RGC_animation that's mainly due to their cousin leaving and them generally being a reclusive person
@SpinDuality
@SpinDuality Жыл бұрын
@@RGC_animation Blooky is sad because they're alone. That's why I'm really glad that you can see Napstablook in Mettaton's band in the ending of Undertale True Pacifist.
@chiringumais3150
@chiringumais3150 2 жыл бұрын
It's incredible the length of mental gymnastics some people insist to go through to deny such an obvious trans allegory, and I think this are probably the same kind of people who think Kris' and Frisk's pronouns are up to interpretation. At the end of the day is all really just transphobia lol
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, basically. And it's basically always cis people who won't listen to trans voices. I miiight be cis or I might be NB, but either way it's like. Really important to listen to trans voices when they talk about this sorta thing.
@IrvingIV
@IrvingIV 2 жыл бұрын
gotta say, the sad emoji pfp is frosting on the cake
@guyferrari8124
@guyferrari8124 2 жыл бұрын
Kris and frisk are literally designed to be as androgynous as possible. They use “they” pronouns because it’s meant to be ambiguous.
@IrvingIV
@IrvingIV 2 жыл бұрын
@@guyferrari8124 Alternatively, it's a combination of several things and saying that any one take is the true take is like saying "Chara" is the true name.
@guyferrari8124
@guyferrari8124 2 жыл бұрын
@@IrvingIV I mean sure you can have headcanons and whatnot, that’s perfectly fine. But canonically, Chara is the true name of the fallen child as dictated by the game. I don’t care about people saying they interpret kris/frisk as NB, but saying that they canonically are and that it’s gospel is disingenuous at best.
@Greatwolfpearl123
@Greatwolfpearl123 2 жыл бұрын
What. What? WHAT? How can your character analysis’s feel SO rewarding to watch, even if it accomplishes nothing in our lives? (Other than something to think about and appreciate :) )
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
As long as people are entertained, there's no waste, I think. :D
@cbcgame2744
@cbcgame2744 Жыл бұрын
Because **It's a living!**
@0nullnil
@0nullnil 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love how Mad Mew Mew is a trans allegory. Idk what else to say... As a trans-nb person, finding out that you're not cis and finding your identity and becoming happy with yourself is a beautiful story and deserves to be shown more in media. Also she is much happier. And this video made me feel validated in a way???
@JoelTheParrot
@JoelTheParrot 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm guilty of assuming that Agender characters used He/Him in the past... I think Alphyne was one of the first steps towards me realizing that Gay Is Okay since my parents said otherwise and I hadn't really had a different perspective up to that point. When I noticed that Napstablook used They/Them I was like WHAT Mad Mew Mew was girlbossing her attacks before she even knew she was a girl =O
@guyferrari8124
@guyferrari8124 2 жыл бұрын
Napstablook isn’t a girl tho
@JoelTheParrot
@JoelTheParrot 2 жыл бұрын
@@guyferrari8124 That's a seperate thought, Mad Mew Mew was girlbossing her attacks I'll clarify by editing
@Quackervoltz
@Quackervoltz 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too.......I don't anymore though
@JoelTheParrot
@JoelTheParrot 2 жыл бұрын
@@Quackervoltz Let's go!
@Potacintvervs
@Potacintvervs 2 ай бұрын
Hey that's ok. He/him are actually both masculine AND gender neutral pronouns in English. One may choose to use they or he, depending on what he chooses. (Just like that)
@oasis9009
@oasis9009 2 жыл бұрын
GOD I wish I could write trans characters as well as Toby
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Toby's kind of amazing in that respect. He has such a compassionate understanding of queer identities, and it's so cool to see LGBT+ content just so... normalized in his games. They're just characters who exist and are allowed to be happy. Awesome stuff.
@inciniumz4671
@inciniumz4671 2 жыл бұрын
You realize that probably wasn't the intent or meaning, right?
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
@@inciniumz4671 I don't see why it wouldn't be the meaning. It's really explicitly trans. She sees the Mew Mew body, immediately clicks with it, and her dialogue has a lot about her talking about how comfortable and happy she is in her new body after the battle. Both MTT and Mew Mew go from genderless pronouns as ghosts to male for MTT and female for Mew Mew. Nonbinary to binary gender is still a transition. It's allegorical, but it is still a form of coding, and in a game that has bisexual characters like Alphys (and Mew Mew as of Deltarune), multiple characters who use only they/them (including Kris), and at least two queer ships in the form of Alphyne and 01 and 02, I don't see why transness is that unreasonable.
@inciniumz4671
@inciniumz4671 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked But here's something to think about: if the body is what defines the gender of the character, that's either trans or just superficial. My theory given this is that the ghosts don't hold a gender, they're apparently asexual being. But they have personalities and preferences, so conceivably Mad Ghost doesn't have a true statsus as male or female until she inhabits the Mew Mew doll, a female character. And personally, don't be offneded by this, but going from nonbinary to binary isn't trans, because you still have a biological gender, you just decide not to asscoiciate with it until perhaps you go bacl to binary. Now if said person was born male but transitions to female with NB inbetween THEN it would be, but in honesty I don't understand this stuff and try not to get into it so I could very well be wrong. And yeah, the Alphyne story and (maybe?) 01 and 02 are referring to homosexuality, but for Kris, it could be said that he's always called they ingame is so it's easier for the player to fit into the character. (Kinda why I call Kris "he", you get me?) Given what you've said I have a new perspective on this. I still think it's not proven that Mad Ghost is some sort of trans allegory but I understand why you gusy think that way and respect that. Actually, you could also say Mad Ghost's character is up for interpretation, if you think about it! Like I said (but less aggressively) sometimes it's about the lens through which you view characters in any Tpby Fox game, so ultimately it's something up for intrepretation in my opinion, that doesn't mean you all can't see Mad Ghost this way, it just means different people will see and interpret her in different ways. Thanks Dorked!
@beril6248
@beril6248 2 жыл бұрын
@@inciniumz4671 An important aspect of Kris' character is that they are NOT you, and they don't want to be your vessel. They're canonically nonbinary, as confirmed by Toby Fox in his UT anniversary Deltarune playthrough.
@Cream12345Ice
@Cream12345Ice 2 жыл бұрын
I am so happy that someone finally made a video about Mad Mew Mew, its such an interesting way to bring new life to this character and she deserves to be talked about more. I hope that in deltarune we get some type of conclusion for both Mad Mew Mew and Mettaton as in that universe they are both still ghosts and likely miserable.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm really hoping they can find bodies they love in Deltarune, too. It'd be really sad if they were left unhappy/unfulfilled like that. :(
@evilbird4012
@evilbird4012 2 жыл бұрын
as long as mettaton doesn’t draw any more
@Cream12345Ice
@Cream12345Ice 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Dorked They are both great trans representation in my opinion. Unlike most times when trans people are portrayed through a metaphore here it actually feels like something that works and does not undercut what it means to be trans. Seeing that explored even more in Deltarune would be awesome.
@nellymurkthewitch
@nellymurkthewitch 2 жыл бұрын
I don't feel that being a ghost is actually bad, it's in monster's culture the purpose of the ghosts is to find a fitting vessel, but if you are a ghost, you can equally talk, do magic, fight, you can fly, and you are free to choose whatever body you want
@semidecent4395
@semidecent4395 2 жыл бұрын
@@nellymurkthewitch That’s fair, but both Mettaton and Dummy seem to really like their new forms. So in that way, it would be sad for them to never experience those forms
@shellyvision9693
@shellyvision9693 2 жыл бұрын
Delving into her backstory is part of what made me realize I was trans to begin with with, so I hold a lot of appreciation for Mad Mew Mew.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, that's awesome to hear! :) I love seeing stories like this.
@petalwhispers
@petalwhispers Жыл бұрын
Watching this made me realize how similar my transition was to Mad Mew Mew's, I used to be quick to anger a lot of the time, but nowadays I'm far calmer!
@PrincessShokora2002
@PrincessShokora2002 Жыл бұрын
Same
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 2 жыл бұрын
The original Undertale was written from like 2011 to 2015, when discourse around trans (especially non-binary) people was still much worse than it is today, but Toby did a great job with progressive language and (in my opinion) made an appreciable difference. That said, I think all ghost monsters are meant to be completely genderless (hence they/them pronouns), but subsequently conform to a binary gender as seen with Mad Mew Mew and Mettaton. Like you said, I think they/them pronouns in the original Undertale implies that a character's gender is interpretive. I only say that because the game released in 2015 and that seems to be prevailing opinion at the time. In Deltarune though, I think they/them is explicitly meant to imply non-binary, especially for Kris. I feel like this is supported by how clear and well-written Mad Mew Mew is that Toby himself learned a lot from friends and fandom in the three years between Undertale and the Switch port/Deltarune.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
I think with Napstablook, at least, it's not interpretive because they've consistently been referred to as they, and even when the artbook messed up, it was later fixed. Frisk and Chara are a lot more divisive, tho, and while I personally see them as nonbinary, the lack of clarity definitely means people will always be debating it. I sorta see it as ghosts being assigned NB at birth and that changing if they bond with certain vessels (with dummies being a NB option). I do think Mew Mew is a really nuanced and respectful take, tho! Very glad she exists.
@gristen
@gristen 2 жыл бұрын
toby was a tumblr user way back in the day during a time when it was probably the most woke place on the internet when it came to LGBT issues. so its never surprised me he managed to portray these topics so well cause the game reflects alot of what was already mainstream in tumblr culture at the time. in fact tumblr was probably the first place where the game was actually discussed online due to most of the kickstart backers being homestuck fans and tumblr users (which were basically the same demographic of people prior to 2014). i actually got to play the undertale demo years before the game even came out cause i saw a link to download it floating around on tumblr back when it came out. toby fox's tumblr is actually still up if you want to check it out but it hasnt seen much use since the release of undertale, outside of a few jokes here and there, and a lot of older content on it has since been purged since he came into the public eye but its still pretty fun to look through. his url is fwugradiation.tumblr(dot)com if you want to check it out
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 2 жыл бұрын
@@gristen I was on Tumblr back in those days too! But I feel like Toby was even a step above the communities I was in and was way more forward thinking in being sensitive. Remember back then there was a loooot of weird fetishisation going on and he managed to keep that out of Undertale entirely
@gristen
@gristen 2 жыл бұрын
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep i think it really depended on what corner of tumblr you were in. i wasnt following toby at the time but i was following a few people that were and some that were even friends with him so our circles kind of aligned to a degree. there was definitely a lot of discussion and arguments and objectively wrong takes being passed around but over time you started to get the feel that a general consensus was forming across the community and i have no doubt toby was influenced a lot by that time period
@NeilAumaster
@NeilAumaster 4 ай бұрын
Tobius von foxius has always been, as the youth kf this day and age proclaim "based"
@aleciosun1060
@aleciosun1060 Жыл бұрын
As I'm not transfem, I can't really judge anything about mew mew but I can talk about Mettaton. Mettaton being trans is honestly one of the best things in undertale to me. Many people, including trans people, have had exclusionary opinions like "You need to pass to be trans, you need to act manly or you're just doing it for attention", and that made many trans mascs afraid of trying fem clothes or makeup, but mettaton's not afraid to be fabulous and express himself outside the gender binary. Mettaton is like, a trans drag queen in my perspective. He wears dresses, he loves pink, he calls people darling and dear, and that doesn't make him any less masculine. He's just doing what makes him happy and he loves himself for it. Undertale was released in 2015, and raised so many great conversations about just not giving a shit about gender. It's so sad that, after 8 years, we're still seeing so many transphobia online and INSIDE the fandom, despite undertale's great success...
@It_sSophiaUwU
@It_sSophiaUwU 2 жыл бұрын
Maddie(the nickname that I have seen used for Mad Mew Mew on the internet by a few people, so I will do the same) is a very important character to me, as she is a very emotional wlw(she states that she has a crush on Undyne during her fight) trans girl like I am. I know that there are other queer and trans characters in Undertale(they make up most of the cast and even the protagonist), but for some reason representation in media for me hits harder the more I can relate to the character. Canon characters like Maddie(Undertale), Madeline(Celeste), and characters that I personally headcanon as queer and trans are very important to me, as they all give me validation for who I am. It's why I think representation of all kinds of people is so important, because if latching onto characters that I can see myself in helps me, then it must be true for other people that have their own set of characters to latch onto. I consider the Switch version of Undertale to be the definitive edition just for Maddie, because I love her that much.
@clawcakes
@clawcakes Жыл бұрын
MADDIE IS SUCH A CUTE NAME FOR HER
@Th3DankestMemer
@Th3DankestMemer 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I absolutely LOVE how well you adapted the Dummy to Mew Mew story into Inverted Fate, still keeping plenty of the original yet changing what was necessary to fit into the IF story!
@batsnake__113
@batsnake__113 Жыл бұрын
I've been scraping for Mad mew mew content as of late and this video will always be my favorite, I love her in everything, her brash personality is charming, her contrasting design is really cute and the whole allegory behind her story brings her to a whole new level for me.
@theMyRadiowasTaken
@theMyRadiowasTaken Жыл бұрын
really the greatest part of all this is that it implies that napstablook is simultaneously cis AND nonbinary
@neutralclownpose3928
@neutralclownpose3928 2 жыл бұрын
Thing i loved in her battle is that the moments where she fully fuses whit her body is only when she is actually happy, like when she supported alphys and undynes relationship. She's rad i adore her
@Julian_Pepper
@Julian_Pepper 2 жыл бұрын
The twist that Mad Mew Mew was Mad Dummy really surprised me when I found out, but I'm happy pleased that she has a way to be happy now without having to kill everyone up until meeting her (and as you mentioned, probably even happier than they would be in that scenario), and I'm happy that her character arc means so much to so many people. Truly a great addition to the Undertale universe I was happy to see added. Edit: Felt I should clarify, I didn't realize the Mew Mew doll was going to be Mad Dummy, but when I saw the battle name was "Mad Mew Mew" and saw her mannerisms when speaking, I knew it was Mad Dummy right away.
@EggBabyOfficial
@EggBabyOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent video!!! I've always loved Mew Mew so much and it makes me sad how often she gets ignored!!! And thank you so much for lifting up trans voices! ^_^
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
It was so important me to ask for trans voices in this video. I worried that if I didn't, it woulda felt like I was speaking for trans people instead of elevating and sharing their personal connections with the character.
@Persona_Random_
@Persona_Random_ 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this character so much and im glad that finally someone give her the attention she deserves
@MintCCookie
@MintCCookie 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing analysis as always, Dorked! I hope lots of people see your video so Mad Mew Mew can get the understanding she deserves.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping so too! Video is performing p. solidly so far, but time will tell how it goes longterm.
@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123
@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 2 жыл бұрын
If I had a nickel for everytime one of Napstablook's relatives transitioned I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice.
@trappedcosmos
@trappedcosmos 2 жыл бұрын
I mean considering ghosts can literally take up any kind of psychical body they want it makes sense
@alcaps8336
@alcaps8336 10 ай бұрын
I remember when Undertale came out, I immediately fell in love with Mad Dummy because of her personality. It was so funny and personally, relatable (I have anger issues lol). All of her dialogues made sense to me, and her song slapped. Later on, I slowly realized I was transgender. A trans woman. I still felt like myself but without the pressure of keeping masculine appearances, instead I embraced my feminine soul. Then, after revisiting the Undertale fandom I came across Mad Mew Mew. Seeing her transitioning just as I did made me incredibly happy. The character I most identified as had transitioned almost at the same time, and taking similar steps. All of her new dialogues still made sense to me and I still identified with her personality. I'm incredibly happy that Toby Fox had made her trans. I just really love her character.
@matttale7918
@matttale7918 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl when I heard that Mew Mew was considered a trans allegory, I was confused at first, but after think it through (and skimming through her battle dialogue) it clicked. Tbh she is one of my favourite characters, her over the top fiery personality is both endearing and comedic, and I love the rivalry she has with Mettaton in the alarm clock dialogues. Overtime her character keeps getting better and better IMO. But it’s so frustrating that people blatantly either ignore her or claim she’s a different character from Mad Dummy all together >:(
@AshcatNicole
@AshcatNicole 4 ай бұрын
2:55 or with frisk, chara, and kris i had a discussion with someone who insisted on referring to kris as him, becase "he's a self insert", even though that totaly clashes with the story, same with frisk and chara
@eaglest0554
@eaglest0554 2 ай бұрын
Kris literally has their autonomy in gameplay segments usurped by the player, the whole point is that they're explicitly not a self insert no?
@AshcatNicole
@AshcatNicole 2 ай бұрын
@@eaglest0554 oh, right that also didn't think of that also everyone uses they/them pronouns for kris, strangers, obviously, but also people closer to him like alphys, their teacher, susie, who may just recently became their friend, but had interactions with them before, noelle, their childhood friend, and toriel, their mother honestly the only character where I would allow that argument would be the knight, where we don't even know who it is
@Holy-Tiramisu
@Holy-Tiramisu 2 ай бұрын
maybe Frisk is a self insert. Definitely not Kris though
@zigazav1
@zigazav1 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that Toby is supportive of trans and gay people, most game developers don't even try to make their games contain such themes, to the point quite a few game companies do whatever they can to censor that sort of content in games they have made, together or not. Out of fear of how the public will react. If the Japanese releases of games has that sort content somewhere in there, it's almost always censored. Toby is brave enough to not be afraid to keep gay and trans content in his games, regardless of the region. He's much braver than even Nintendo, who fears keeping such content in games they publish. Seriously, Toby has had gay and lesbian characters in his games. The two large guards in Undertale (the guards my trans brother refers to them as "the gay guards", also, fyi, my trans brother is fine with being outed about that), and Undyne and Alphys in Undertale, and Noelle and Susie in Deltarune, are clear signs Toby is supportive of trans and gay/lesbian people. Something nearly every game developer fears to include or keep in their localized games.
@dziewiaty
@dziewiaty 6 ай бұрын
​@ihavenoidea1304I think you are confusing representation with quality of the writing. Media written with an explicit goal to sell to the specific audience is usually pretty obvious, religious media is the best example, being often passionless, rushed and propagandist in nature all in one.
@hopeopheim
@hopeopheim 2 жыл бұрын
I also particularly like that the colors your soul turns are red and light blue. I know it's just the switch colors, but the virtues tied to those colors in Undertale, Determination and Patience, feel relevant to transition 0u0
@asocksual4910
@asocksual4910 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid!! I'm kinda bummed that Mad Mew Mew isn't in the PC version of UT- of if she is, I can't find her. I get that hefight would be very hard to port though. There's an in-progress mod for PC called Undertale: Bits and Pieces that adds a lot of console-exclusive stuff, including her, but when I tried to play it I couldn't grasp the control system at all.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, as far as the PC version goes, I think so far it's just the alarm clock text making her canon to the story post-Pacifist. I'd LOVE to see Toby release the Mew Mew fight on PC formally, though, because of the console exclusives, I think it's the best one. The controls for it on PC are tricky due to needing WASD. We had to compromise in the IF fight by allowing space to advance text as well as Z to make it more ergonomic.
@Wertercat
@Wertercat 2 жыл бұрын
Undertale Together let’s you fight her, as their co-op battle modifications make the split soul mechanic a lot easier to deal with. Each player just has to worry about their side of the bullets. It’s recommended to play with a controller when fighting her in more vanilla modifications though, as I believe the split souls are bound to the joysticks.
@betsareoff6821
@betsareoff6821 2 жыл бұрын
Thank! You!!! I loved Mad Mew Mew's character so much after, oddly enough, going through the leftover text from the Undertale alarm clock app. I feel like Mew Mew really got the short end of the stick, because Deltarune literally released like 2 months after Mew Mew was revealed. Petition for someone to make a Mad Mew Mew fanbattle please I need more Mew Mew fuel😭
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
If it's any consolation, we have a really robust Mew Mew battle for Inverted Fate. There's a version on Philiplol's scratch page, but we're working on porting it to higher quality HTML and .exe. B its 'n Pieces also includes her battle! :)
@dashat3938
@dashat3938 2 жыл бұрын
"She's great. I really love her boss-fight too and how it's this perfect mix of her experiencing gender euphoria, *being just genuinely excited to murder a child,* and *failing to get mad and being frustrated at that.* " -some random guy talking about trans people.
@pundertalefan4391
@pundertalefan4391 2 жыл бұрын
I like Mad Mew Mew because it brought completion to Mad Dummy's character arc. The character was great, and I liked how they slowly added depth to them. :-)
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
I would be careful about referring to Mad Mew Mew as a male character considering she's a girl and with her trans coding, it's just not the best thing. Just something to be considerate of with stuff like this is all!
@pundertalefan4391
@pundertalefan4391 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked Gotcha. Edited. :-)
@ness6714
@ness6714 2 жыл бұрын
12:07 I feel like this is Toby's nod at people comparing Fanon and Canon information in fandoms.
@norbivans9939
@norbivans9939 2 жыл бұрын
Great video about Mad Mew Mew. I've never even looked that deep into her character and I really wish I would sooner. I love your character analysis videos and how they help us to understand a character that we thought we knew even better. Keep up the great work and as always stay determined!
@mrb5940
@mrb5940 2 жыл бұрын
My headcannon is that Mettaton commisioned Alphys to make that robot body specifically for Mad dummy and it was intended to be handled to her at some point, but Mad dummy kinda stole it before the official _trans_ action **bada pum tssss** was completed
@manicbeyond
@manicbeyond Жыл бұрын
I wasn't really aware she was supposed to be a trans allegory, I just liked her because her fight had a cool gimmick, but now I like her more.
@solstice_soda701
@solstice_soda701 2 жыл бұрын
Thought it was nice that Mew and Metatton needing to get maintenance for their ideal bodies could reference Testosterone or Estrogen shots. I love Mew a lot and one of my favorite bits is (like you said) retaining her personality and quirks. Taking that leap to change is terrifying. Even if the alternative of staying is worse, it's natural to be hesitant. When I was learning ways to better cope with my mental health I was afraid of losing who I was up till that point. Who was I if not this? Then when I got the help I needed and began to improve, I actually grew as a person. Who I was is still here, just bigger, better, and happier. Things were still rough but just having the stability in myself was enough to give me the courage to continue. Mew stays loud, eccentric, and passionate. I stayed creative, observant, and passionate. What changed was how we expressed what we are and how to do it in a constructive and healthy way. It's growth that's more relatable than most character arcs I had back then and really motivated me to keep going even if I felt afraid.
@usermcskull4713
@usermcskull4713 2 жыл бұрын
"Peppering her dialogue with meows and nyahs" she's just like me fr (im trans catgirl)
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Trans catgirls are so important. Stay awesome! B)
@usermcskull4713
@usermcskull4713 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked thank you! 💗
@beril6248
@beril6248 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, nya!
@usermcskull4713
@usermcskull4713 2 жыл бұрын
@@beril6248 meow thank you~ this video made me so happy, i got the dumbest smile rn
@barnyettathedinosaur1357
@barnyettathedinosaur1357 2 жыл бұрын
same!!!
@tom_k_cook
@tom_k_cook 9 ай бұрын
Alphys: "Wow, this whole lab was so cheap, it was basically free when I took on the role of royal scientist. Wonder why..." *Her trinkets and creations on the main level appear to be possessed by trans ghosts
@MasterSquirrel993
@MasterSquirrel993 2 жыл бұрын
The Switch port elevated Mad Mew Mew from “one-off funny Dio dummy” to rivaling Burgerpants for my favorite supporting NPC. I _love_ how her character was fleshed out, and it really gives depth to a mini boss who, while undeniably entertaining, still came across as rather contemptible and irrelevant to the main storyline in the original release. Mew Mew, by contrast, truly feels like she _belongs_ in Frisk and co’s social circle, thanks to Toby’s knack for interconnected character relationships giving her _several_ connections to the main cast, and even the supporting cast (Napatablook and Burgerpants)! And I truly appreciate that her story arc conveys such powerful, important themes while still letting Mew Mew be… well, Mew Mew! She’s still brash, still loud, still not without her character flaws- it’s just that now, she’s finally _her._ ^_^ It truly warms my heart to see people giving Mew Mew the attention she deserves. _Mad_ respect for creating such a well-done analysis on an underrated character :)
@ExBronyPony
@ExBronyPony 2 жыл бұрын
“huh? “trans allegory”? whats that? i just think she’s a cool character. i can’t explain why i like her so much. maybe i just think the idea of changing bodies and becoming someone new is cool to me. if i could become a girl, i would!” and here we are today.
@drascia
@drascia 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Toby has blessed us with a trio of trans ghosts is a beautiful thing
@trashman6829
@trashman6829 2 жыл бұрын
ah people always get this confused, "catgirl" is a subcategory of "trans", not the other way around.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly I just went for the alliteration in the thumbnail. Cotton to Catgirl has a nice ring to it, after all!
@FestiveAngel06
@FestiveAngel06 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of trans catgirls, after all
@flaco3462
@flaco3462 2 жыл бұрын
what
@theoucreator
@theoucreator 2 жыл бұрын
Cis and nonbinary people can be cat girls too!
@personperson8712
@personperson8712 2 жыл бұрын
@@theoucreator mmmm wouldn't an enby cat girl be a cat person
@eaglest0554
@eaglest0554 2 ай бұрын
I just realized how much of a moral of self love the ghosts have. The unnamed cousin can't fuse with their corporeal form because they flee it out of embarrassment, Mew Mew is able to with a bit of self confidence and a spar/pep talk with a friend what it took the rage of staring down the worst person possible to do before, and Mettaton-
@You-Tube-n5k
@You-Tube-n5k 2 жыл бұрын
This character has always been one of my personal favorite despite the lack of fandom attention. So this analysis makes me more than happy
@stardra
@stardra 2 жыл бұрын
I knew she existed but I had no idea she used to be the Mad Dummy! I really liked her Mad Dummy fight theme, so coming back and figuring out that she became Mad Mew Mew, makes me really happy and appreciate her character so much more!
@fluidsxul
@fluidsxul 11 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if the idea of becoming a "dummy" is a sort of metaphor for conformation. Mettaton's Diary Entries presumably elude to Mad Dummy/Mew Mew going to get her dummy body, and with how it seems to be the common object that happens to be possessed (see in the New Home speech during Neutral/Pacifist), it makes me wonder if in a way, there could be a connection. Mettaton, Mad Dummy/Mew Mew, and Napstablook all represent different ideas of breaking out of it in a way. Napstablook represented total rejection of conformation and comfort of living outside the binary. Mettaton and Mad Mew Mew presented rejection of conformation in respect of what was expected of them, through two different ways. Mettaton always knowing that he wanted to have the more fitting body, and therefore always having rejected the idea of being a dummy, and Mad Mew Mew discovering her perfect body after she had attempted to go for the path of conformation and finding she couldn't have peace with it.
@eaglest0554
@eaglest0554 2 ай бұрын
I somehow hadn't even considered the fact that beyond being really good trans rep, she is also in such a small pool. I still remember reading Magnus Chase and being exposed to the concept of gender fluid people for the first time through Alex Fierro, and it immediately made sense because of how simply it was explained and how casually it was treated. Sometimes they're a son of Loki, other times a daughter, sometimes neither at all, but always them, and picturing Mew Mew in that role for new young queer kids/allies, I think she's a wonderful fit.
@queenofglitch
@queenofglitch 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I think is interesting to think about is the idea that Mad Dummy hearing about the fact that emotional surges equal fusing with a body, and knowing she has anger issues in the first place, tries to... *force* the anger out, which results in her coming up with whatever she ends up saying before she fights Frisk the first time, extrapolating what little she's heard from this unnamed cousin and trying to get absurdly mad about it, but it's not wholly genuine anger. ...Which is why, when she has a genuine reason to be so absurdly angry (when Frisk has murdered everyone in their path) she *does* fuse.
@markymar
@markymar 2 жыл бұрын
Finally!!! Somebody talks about the ghost lore in undertale!!!! I feel like I’ve been the only one talking about it for the past two years!!!
@darknessakamrbutter
@darknessakamrbutter 2 жыл бұрын
I have now watched the full video and I have to say this is a really great video you can just tell how much work was put into this, love these types of videos dorked can’t wait for the next one
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Eyy, thanks a bunch! :) It was certainly a lot of work. Especially getting all the variants on the Mad Dummy pre-battle dialogue. Had to make a few modified saves just for that.
@grayanddevpdx
@grayanddevpdx Жыл бұрын
On a similar note, even if it’s not actually canon, Alphys was originally designed as a male before Toby realized it would work better with her as a female, which means that they technically transitioned in development, which is honestly kinda funny to me, despite it not being canon.
@vinnie4125
@vinnie4125 2 жыл бұрын
this was a great video I didn't know this character even existed. you explained it so well and you went into such that I really appreciate it.
@DeliriousPersona
@DeliriousPersona Жыл бұрын
okay but can we for a second talk about how there are *4 FUCKING VERSIONS OF GHOST FIGHT?!*
@Pacmanfan-po9rn
@Pacmanfan-po9rn Жыл бұрын
I just want a version of undertale with all 3 versions of the shrine
@dihte1628
@dihte1628 Жыл бұрын
Bits & pieces mod.
@RylixBlizzai
@RylixBlizzai 2 жыл бұрын
you know i find it wild that a ghost possessing a catgirl doll from almost 4 years ago, is the thing that got me to first question my gender to this day i am still unsure of my own self and it can all be traced to this one funky little trans cat who was already one of my favourite characters from one of my favourite games of all time
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement 2 жыл бұрын
2:38 Oh yeah I almost forgot about that, one of the coolest musical details about Dummy! is how in its remixing it repeats parts of Ghost fight in a similar style to her speech quirk it's so cute. 5:25 Also Imma be honest I thought Mew Mew was saying Undyne replaced her with a new training dummy, implying she never knew her original one was possessed. This crush and her realizing Alphys and Undyne got together makes a bit more sense. xD 13:16 Ooooh I never got to see this art, MTT and Mew Mew dancing is adorable!
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 2 ай бұрын
I'm kinda surprised Toby wasn't able to patch in the Mad Mew Mew fight into the PC version. I know it was intended to use the switch Joycons independently, but on PC the fight's unique mechanics could be implemented by mapping the left side to WASD and the right to the arrow keys.
@Holy-Tiramisu
@Holy-Tiramisu 2 ай бұрын
yes but i think the point was that it was a switch exclusive. he could have put it in the pc version but it kinda defeat the purpose
@destructionjtoh
@destructionjtoh 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking about the same thing too
@KiffKan
@KiffKan Жыл бұрын
One small theory i personally have about the ghosts is, that they simply have no gender and the gender they have will mostly depend on what they posses and how they percieve it. Or its the other way around that they'd rather choose something that resembles their prefered gender.
@BmuXD
@BmuXD Жыл бұрын
Thats actually canon
@MadelineTheUndertaleVideogame
@MadelineTheUndertaleVideogame 2 жыл бұрын
YESSS YESSS IT'S FINALLY HERE LET'S GOOO thank you so much
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome! :D I know Mad Mew Mew is a really important character, especially as a trans icon, and I really wanted to uplift this character and help others learn more about her.
@MadelineTheUndertaleVideogame
@MadelineTheUndertaleVideogame 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked Yeah yeah!! I often feel like she's super overlooked which isn't fair tbh
@BlueBerry-tc6tz
@BlueBerry-tc6tz Жыл бұрын
Alphys out here performing gender confirming surgery on any ghost that comes up to her door
@BmuXD
@BmuXD Жыл бұрын
Bro, Mewmew just broke trough Alphys' walls and possesed the doll :V
@locxlsxdsxck5171
@locxlsxdsxck5171 Жыл бұрын
Damn I gotta go see her at some point
@OMGKawaiiPsycho
@OMGKawaiiPsycho Жыл бұрын
Brb, I'm about to become a ghost and tell Alphys to make me into a cute anime girl
@Brydav_Massbear
@Brydav_Massbear 11 ай бұрын
What is funny to me is that it took me so long to realize the ghost possession was an allegory of transgendering, as I only realized when I learned the Mad One became a girl even though I thought they were a boy beforehand. And the opposite applies to Mettaton who I thought was a girl.
@cosmeticincantations7997
@cosmeticincantations7997 2 жыл бұрын
I played the switch version as soon as I could cause when I saw that epic anime like intro of the trailer I just had to se what this new character was and I instantly fell in love! the style of the doll is so cute and I wish the anime was real lol. the fact that she finally has a real future gives me tingles. I like the possibility of being Mettaton's cousin (meaning Napstablook as well) and I just can't believe so many people are throwing away such a character when they did not look at her story, (to be fair, she is a side character) much like the guards she has a story that everyone can see and I love that we get to explore it a little further on the switch
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Only downside is since her full arc is split across two console ports and the alarm clock app, it's not very centralized, but I suppose that does give people a reason to keep checking out newer releases.
@Chivecookies_domain
@Chivecookies_domain 2 жыл бұрын
The anime is technically real because it was based off Tokyo Mew Mew :D
@cosmeticincantations7997
@cosmeticincantations7997 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chivecookies_domain OMG I am so watching that right now! GIVE ME THE MEW
@toasttitan3253
@toasttitan3253 Жыл бұрын
Now I’m just sad that we barely know anything about the ruins dummy ghost after seeing how interesting all their cousins are
@wiktorkowalkowska
@wiktorkowalkowska Жыл бұрын
Alphys is trully a trans ally, making perfect bodies for them that they feel comfy in
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement Жыл бұрын
Yeah you're right only reason I forgive her /s
@swampy725
@swampy725 2 жыл бұрын
To me There is 1 thing that matters about it THE FACT THAT THE BATTLE BREAKS WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT SOUL COLOURS BY MAKING A HALF BLUE HALF RED SOUL THAT CAN SPLIT IN HALF WITHOUT GETTING DESTROYED JUST CAUSE SWITCH JOYCONS
@TotallyNotRaven342
@TotallyNotRaven342 10 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this character, it's me fr fr xD but seriously, it's a nice reminder that I don't have to prove to people that I am a female by acting feminine, rather that I can be myself and still be who I perceive myself to be
@mk-aka-morgan8386
@mk-aka-morgan8386 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know anything about mad mew mew before this video, and now I’m ready to do a deep dive. Thank you
@treythetrusting4954
@treythetrusting4954 2 жыл бұрын
Hey dorked just want to exclaim how much of a fan I am of not just your work but you in general. I love your videos, If, and in general In a very unsafe community a lot of times you really stand out as someone who’s a safe space. I really enjoyed your talk about the transgender meta commentary in undertale, it was such an under explored topic in my opinion and just makes me all the more happy you’re talking abt it.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, thanks! It's really unfortunate that some people act like representation and shit is "cringy" or whatever when like... most of the people who complain about that stuff are not part of the groups that are excited for representation and don't understand how much it hurts to be unseen in media. Thankfully most of my comments here have been positive, but there have definitely been some bad faith and transphobic comments.
@treythetrusting4954
@treythetrusting4954 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked Aw wow I’m sorry about that, as someone who’s bi (like actually) it really sucks that a lot of ppl tend to either pander and give lip service to lgbt and also ppl who join for attention really kind of made me connect with what you’re saying here. Stay (no reference intended) determined in your stuff because I feel like undertale does lgbt representation in a way that frankly I’ve never seen another piece of media do. It’s not in big bold ways where it’s like “X character is gay” it’s more just treated like normal with undyne and alphys for example, and with mad dummy/mew mew Toby Fox and his team did something truly astounding, they made a story arc about transgenderism without making the transgenderism the whole character. There’s a ton of unique things about mad dummy/mew mew that are unique to her that aren’t just that she is trying to transition. So yeah I feel like it was the right thing totally to make this video.
@treythetrusting4954
@treythetrusting4954 2 жыл бұрын
Also I just noticed good little sneaky thing I didn’t see the trans flag colors in the word cat girl lol
@kaelisprime9087
@kaelisprime9087 9 ай бұрын
I'm so dense. When I first fought this boss, I didn't even realise her and Mad Dummy were one in the same 💀
@violetnocte
@violetnocte 2 жыл бұрын
I've only seen the PC version of Undertale so I wasn't sure if Mad Mew Mew knew her body was an anime character or not until I watched this video. Not only does she know, she considers herself "canon" Mew Mew (Now that I think of it, she either had to have been named or choose her name, so she had to have known where the name came from)
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
I love that she's just up and declared herself canon. Good for her! It's such a bold statement, but I appreciate how she just runs with it.
@lolymop333
@lolymop333 2 жыл бұрын
I like how she has to do certain things to maintain her voice. That's a nice detail.
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